to want to throw shit at this woman?

(159 Posts)

Got your attention? Good. Obviously I don't really plan to throw poo at her.

We live opposite a small green that we used to walk across on the school run.

Recently it has been covered in dog turds hmm.

Just now from my bedroom window I saw a woman come out of her house directly across from me (the green is between us iyswim) with a fat labrador not on a lead who then proceeded to crap in two different spots on the green while she looked on.

She then called it over and they went back in the house angry

The green is used by kids after school and by families waiting for buses.

I appreciate this is a one off and I can't know for sure that her dog is responsible for all the shits but why the hell should she be allowed to use a public area as a dog toilet?

If I see her do the same again I am going to confront her. Is that unreasonable of me? Surely not.

Report the filthy bitch to the dog warden and tell her you have done so.

BlackeyedShepherdswatchsheep Thu 09-Jan-14 16:28:34

find 2 and return to the owner with a note about them being hers.

tripecity Thu 09-Jan-14 16:29:30

report her!! No question about it, filthy bitch

I am very tempted Black angry.

TooOld - Will the dog warden take me seriously if I ring?

I worried I was being too harsh as she was an older woman using one crutch but I don't care. If you can't responsibly look after your dog then rehome it.

I would bag them up and put them through her letter box give them back to her.

AngelaDaviesHair Thu 09-Jan-14 16:30:52

Ring the council. We had a problem dog owner near us once. She kept getting reported, gave up and moved in the end.

X post with your second post.

That dog may be her only companion and the crutch maybe temporary.

Sounds like she needs some help.

Yes they will take you seriously. I think it is an offence to let your dog "foul" in public (and not pick it up) but even if it is not illegal they will still have a word/write a letter.

Whatwouldmumdo Thu 09-Jan-14 16:33:39

Dirty cow! Report her!

InTheRedCorner there are always two cars outside the house and people coming and going.

She doesn't live alone.

gaggiagirl Thu 09-Jan-14 16:34:05

Report the dirty mare.

Bag up two of them and return them too her. Sweetly say you noticed her dog had left them behind.

Yanbu I HATE people who dont pick up dog crap. Disgusting, filthy worse-than-their-animals.

The onle thing I would ask is are you certain it was a no.2? Not asking you to go and check! Only because my bitch BC squats to both wee and poo. I can tell which one by the length of time and her stance (lovely ain't it?). But once after she did a squatting wee a man did come over to check I was picking up. Its fine he didn't know and I ALWAYS pick up, even in leaves at nighttime (which is interesting).

I suspect the worst of this woman though angry

Rumplestinkskin Thu 09-Jan-14 16:35:17

now I would never suggest this grin but quite a while ago when my dad was living alone and turning into Victor Meldrew someone took to using his front garden (open plan grass) as a dog toilet.

He had a supply of water balloons ready to go on the bedroom windowsill and would chuck them at the culprit whenever he caught them in the act (at the owner - not the dogs fault).

Not how I would have gone about it, but it did get the message across

Absolutely sure mines - saw the python leave the basket.

Twice angry.

ENormaSnob Thu 09-Jan-14 16:36:02

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AwfulMaureen Thu 09-Jan-14 16:37:16

That's disgusting but God...MN has really gone down the pan lately! All this "filthy bitch" just sounds awful.

coffeeinbed Thu 09-Jan-14 16:37:49

What I do when I see someone not pick up - even though I would not necessarily try it with some owners, for self preservation purposes! - is to say "Oh, would you like to borrow a poo bag for that?" and take a spare one out of my pocket.
they almost always pick up after that.

ENormaSnob Thu 09-Jan-14 16:38:13

Welcome po

WitchOfEndor Thu 09-Jan-14 16:38:41

Even if she did live on her own and need to use a crutch there is no excuse for letting your dog crap in a public place and leaving it behind. She could have let it crap in her own garden if it was an emergency. Filthy cow! She is the sort of person who give responsible owners a bad name. If you see it happening again then film it or take pictures and report.

SkinnybitchWannabe Thu 09-Jan-14 16:39:21

Please please report the filthy bitch....and the dog.
My village is covered in shite because lazy twatish mingers can't be bothered to pick up their dog crap.

it is filthy! Absolutely report her. It's my pet hate (pun)

gamerchick Thu 09-Jan-14 16:42:46

You can report them online. Our council website has a section for reporting dog mess.

lookatmybutt Thu 09-Jan-14 16:43:07

RedCorner: yay! Make it a paper bag and set fire to it first before leaving it on the doorstep*

*no, don't do this.

OP, stick some bags in your pocket and just hand them to her when you see the dog poop. Maybe also tell her her overweight pooch needs to see a vet about a diet (seriously, labs will eat EVERYTHING given half a chance).

Or do fling poop at her. Your call! I think you should do something unless perhaps she looks likely to shank you.

ENormaSnob Thu 09-Jan-14 16:43:23

Maureen.

If you dont like the filthy bitch retorts maybe dont open a thread about chucking shit a someone?

Or was your mn down the pan meant to be a pun?

MrsDeVere Thu 09-Jan-14 16:43:58

My mum is in her 70s and has severe mobility problems and she still manages to pick up after her dog.

We live round a green in London. Its one of the things that make life here bearable. I got mad if I see anyone using it as a dog toilet.

So far it has stopped it becoming commonplace. If a small area of green gets known for being easy to let your dog crap on people will come from all over.

Most dogs prefer crapping on grass so its the quickest way to get them to 'go' so you can get home again. That dog would prefer to do it in her garden so thats why it gets shoved out the front.

I am a dog lover btw and have two.

AdoraBell Thu 09-Jan-14 16:47:04

If she has able bodied visitors then one of them could pick it up for her.

Report her To who ever is appropriate ( I don't know, sorry I'm abroad)

lookatmybutt Thu 09-Jan-14 16:47:51

One thing I think that would make everyone's life easier would be for more councils to install poop bins, or at least MORE bins in general. People don't have any excuse then for not doing the needful.

Hopasholic Thu 09-Jan-14 16:51:24

Filthy bitch = not acceptable

'Atrocious 'Cunt' however ............. grin

dontyouknow Thu 09-Jan-14 16:51:58

The field which we (and lots of others) use as a shortcut to school/nursery is covered in dog turds. It drives me mad - if you can't be bothered to clear up after your dog you shouldn't have one.

You know where she lives so I would report it. As someone else has said the crutch isn't an excuse, especially as you say she often has visitors so could have gone with one of them if she couldn't physically pick it up.

There was a lady in an electric wheel chair (a tall one with neck supports) I used to see walking her son to school, with a dog. She used to lean over and pick up her dog's poo. I always think if she could do it then there really is no excuse for not picking it up.

formerbabe Thu 09-Jan-14 16:52:42

Knowledge is power, at least you know who the culprit is. There is loads on my sons walk to school...I wish I knew who it was, I would report them without a second thought.

5Foot5 Thu 09-Jan-14 16:53:45

People don't have any excuse then for not doing the needful.

No excuse anyway. They could take it home and put it in their own bin.

Some git lets their dog crap on our front lawn. We have never caught them at it yet we just find the results. If I ever see them at it I am seriously considering following them home to see where they live and then taking the turd and leaving it on their doorstep.

BuilderofDuplo Thu 09-Jan-14 16:53:51

Pick up as many turds as you can find and chuck them all in her garden. So sick of dog shit not getting picked up and left for people to walk through.

HarrietSchulenberg Thu 09-Jan-14 16:53:52

Lookatmybutt - we have lots of dog poo bins round here but still lots of poo. Makes no difference whatsoever.

tombakerscarf Thu 09-Jan-14 16:53:53

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

I'm going to ring the dog warden and ask for their advice.

I'm a dog owner too and wouldn't dream of leaving her poo laying around. It's just unacceptable.

Blatherskite Thu 09-Jan-14 17:08:40

Our house overlooks a small green area. There are notices up everywhere warning of fines if you allow your dog to poo in it so when I repeatedly saw one teenager bringing a dog onto the green, watching her dog poo and then scampering off without picking up I rang the council. They had someone out patrolling the next day and so far, I haven't seen the girl back again.

The green is still covered in dog poo but at least 1 of the culprits was put off.

Aaaand the council are closed.

Will ring in the morning.

There are two teenage boys kicking a ball around in the dark on the green now.

God knows what they are standing in <<gips>>

nostress Thu 09-Jan-14 17:18:07

I hate this! And sod fines I think the punishment should be that the owner is smeared with their dog's shit and made to sit in an enclosed space for twenty mintutes. This to simulate what parents have to go through when they take their toddler to the park and they roll down the lovely grassy bank and get smothered to dog shit then have to immediately return home in a stinky car without stopping for a nice ice cream they had been promised. Seems fair?

Lemongrab Thu 09-Jan-14 17:20:01

I would collect two poos, put them in a bag, and deposit them on her doorstep with a note;

'For every poo I see your dog deposit on the green, I will deposit one on your doorstep in return' grin

I'm serious

xxMrsCxx Thu 09-Jan-14 17:26:46

Disgusting! As a responsible dog owner it irritates the life out me to see/hear other dog owners who don't pick up after their dogs ggrrrrrr ..... Try to take a picture so you have some evidence and get on to the dog warden who should be able to help. Good luck x

Mouthfulofquiz Thu 09-Jan-14 17:29:48

Amazon sell long handled poop picker-uppers. No excuse for ANYONE not to pick up their own dog's shit. It's fucking disgusting.

Mouthfulofquiz Thu 09-Jan-14 17:30:05

Amazon sell long handled poop picker-uppers. No excuse for ANYONE not to pick up their own dog's shit. It's fucking disgusting.

SarahAndFuckTheResolutions Thu 09-Jan-14 17:48:29

OP there is a website called fixmystreet that you can file a report on, anonymously if you wish, and they will contact the council on your behalf. They will pass on your email address to the council but your name will not be made public if you don't want it to be.

You can upload photo's as well.

Our council has it's own phone line and website for reporting this and no you are not being unreasonable to want to throw poo at her.

There's an especially vile blonde woman with a big German Shepherd dog who never cleans up after him. I've spoken to her about it twice and even given her a bag but she still won't clean it up. We live opposite a school and there is a daily offering from that dog for the children to walk through, and inevitably one always does. She walks the dog on the field by the school so there's probably a whole other minefield of shit over there too.

I live in hope that if the dog warden doesn't get her, at the very least karma will one day have her slip and fall in her own dogs shit.

We have two dogs. Picking up after them is not fun but owning them is my choice and my responsibility. Pet owners who won't accept the same is true of them for their pets give all of us a bad name.

KatnipEvergreen Thu 09-Jan-14 17:51:48

Someone used to let their dog shit right outside the school gates, every morning without fail. Someone had always stood in it by the time I came out again as it had foot prints in it and was spread down the pavement angry. It seemed so deliberate.

Chippednailvarnish Thu 09-Jan-14 17:53:38

Take a photo of her watching the dog crapping, print it out and attach copies to all the lamp posts around you, saying that she's responsible.

I bet she'll stop.

LucyBabs Thu 09-Jan-14 17:59:08

She is a filthy bitch though.. May aswell call a spade a spade!

I like lemongrabs idea I would definitely do this grin

Honestly though I wouldn't allow my two year old ds take a shit on a public grass area.

likeit Thu 09-Jan-14 18:02:16

Dirty bitch.

Post it back through her letterbox.

nickymanchester Thu 09-Jan-14 18:03:02

Take a photo of her watching the dog crapping, print it out and attach copies to all the lamp posts around you, saying that she's responsible

I bet she'll stop

I'm not really one for public shaming, but I really do think that this is a good idea if she won't stop

DownstairsMixUp Thu 09-Jan-14 18:05:53

I'd be angry if i saw it, as we are on the topic, how the hell can i catch who is letting their dog shit in my front garden?! It seems to be at night as i wake up in the morning. This morning when i got up there were two dog shits in the garden. Fuming because my son uses the front garden to play as our back garden is small and the kids across the road come over to play with DS. Getting so pissed off with clearing up other peoples dog shit!! angry

frownyface Thu 09-Jan-14 18:06:53

No fucking excuse. I use a wheelchair/mobility scooter and I have a long handled poop scooper to pick up after my dogs.

People like this make me mad.

HesterShaw Thu 09-Jan-14 18:16:52

If someone isn't able to pick up their dog's crap from a communal village green, they should a) find someone else to walk their dog who is able or b) not have the animal.

It sounds like this dog needs a walker as well, if it is very overweight. It doesn't sound like she is able to take proper care of it.

And yes there do need to be more bins. Maybe it would stop the charmer who is posting their dog's crap into my wheelie bin every so often.

ComposHat Thu 09-Jan-14 18:22:15

I had a German Sheppard shite on the lawn yesterday.

Today the dirty bastard bought his dog with him.

Joules68 Thu 09-Jan-14 18:28:22

She needs reporting, no doubts about that!

BUT

Do you all really walk your kids to school over greens/fields in school shoes? Or do they change?

Tulip26 Thu 09-Jan-14 18:30:34

Hester what's wrong with using someone's bin if it's left by the street? Don't you dare say it smells as it's not exactly going in your living room, is it? I bet the rubbish you throw out smells of fresh baked bread and roses.

Would you rather I left it on your doorstep or front garden rather than use your bin? I will always endevour to pick up after my dog but if there are no public bins, don't expect me to carry it miles home.

Frusso Thu 09-Jan-14 18:31:20

Take a photo of her watching the dog crapping, print it out and send to local dog warden.

Joules DD wears boots like these to school and keeps them on. Obviously I don't want them covered in crap.

We now walk around the green sticking to the pavement. I'm not risking it anymore.

Glad you all agree (a unanimous AIBU - who knew it was possible!).

Will update tomorrow.

HesterShaw Thu 09-Jan-14 18:39:09

Tulip26 there is plenty wrong with using my bin as a dog turd depositor without my permission. I don't want the stomach-churning whiff of shit every time I open the lid. No, I would not rather you left it on my doorstep. As for telling me what I dare say and dare not say....well, fuck off! I can say what I like to people who leave their animal's shit on/in other people's property, which I take it you do, as you seem rather defensive about my post.

It's your dog - you take its crap home and deal with it in your bin.

Tulip26 Thu 09-Jan-14 18:49:51

Hester so you've never put nappies, old food or anything at all smelly in your bin then? Doggy dos don't really smell if they're bagged up.

Tulip26 Thu 09-Jan-14 18:51:24

And yes, I will use whatever bin is nearest. Surely that's better than leaving it lying around? If you don't like it, move your bin.

I have to agree with Hester. I think putting your poo bags in someone else's bin is a bit cheeky.

The end point of your walk is your house, save it for your own bin.

One thing I think that would make everyone's life easier would be for more councils to install poop bins, or at least MORE bins in general. People don't have any excuse then for not doing the needful.

Some people don't need an excuse to be antisocial twats. I have seen an owner standing by, watching his dog do a shit next to one of these bins, and walk off without picking up. angry

DownstairsMixUp Thu 09-Jan-14 18:59:32

I agree with Bunny though people just use my front garden instead! angry

HesterShaw Thu 09-Jan-14 19:06:21

No I have never put nappies in my bin, on account of not having children. However I have put my cat's litter in the bin, in a good strong bin bag, along with the rubbish This does not mean I want any passing dog walker to fling in their pooch's poo in a flimsy little bag without my knowledge or permission into the bottom of my bin, meaning that when I go and put something heavy in my bin, the said flimsy bags burst, smearing foul smelling dog shit over the interior.

I have changed many a babies' nappy however, and I can safely say that the stench is not on the same level.

Your dog - your bin.

HesterShaw Thu 09-Jan-14 19:08:22

If you don't like it move you bin.

It appears that you think that not enjoying your dog's crap is other people's problem, rather than your own. No I won't move my bin. That is where it goes. I don't go putting my rubbish in other people's bins. I put it in my own, or a public one.

Toecheese Thu 09-Jan-14 19:09:04

Collect the poo and post it through her door

Marylou2 Thu 09-Jan-14 19:50:14

Our council has posters saying "There's no such thing as the dog poo fairy" perhaps post one through her door?

WhatAFeline Thu 09-Jan-14 19:58:15

It is very difficult for dog wardens to obtain enough evidence to sanction people who do not pick up after their dog. However, they are always grateful for information that may help them to address this anti social behaviour.

Our wardens ask for as much info as possible such as:

Description of dog.
Description of owner.
Address of owner.
Time incident spotted.
Location of incident.
Any info about regularity of it happening.

This is so that they can direct their meagre resources to surveillance, they can only secure a conviction if they actually see the dog poo and the owner leave it.

OP if you see it happen again, pictures forwarded to your local dog warden team with the info above will be gratefully received.

KongKickeroo Thu 09-Jan-14 20:05:53

I live by a similar green.

If you have a small child, the next time you see it happen, pick up child, fling open the window and boom out in your best Performance Parenting voice "LOOK! A DOGGIE! DOGGIE DID POO POO! MUMMY SAW!" Then smile, point and wave maniacally.

I may or may not have done this recently with excellent results grin

WhatAFeline Thu 09-Jan-14 20:06:53

I'm one of a group of mums that got fed up with the amount of dog mess in our neighbourhood. We organised a petition to the council, asking them to review the resource that they spent on dog fouling. We did a FOI request about the costs of dog mess cleanup compared with the cost of providing additional bins.

The outcome was that we have a good relationship with our dog warden and street teams at the council. They introduced dog mess reporting by text, and will clean it up within 24 hours. They use the number of reports to help them deploy their wardens where there is a known issue. They put temporary painted signs on the pavement and warnings that covert surveillance takes place. Their convictions have increased and our neighbourhood is better, although not perfect.

If any MNers know of cost neutral or low cost successful ways to tackle dog fouling, I would love to hear about it.

Mintyy Thu 09-Jan-14 20:08:29

You should have taken photos. I would have no problem in picking up a couple of turds from the green (in a nappy sack of course!!!) and posting them through her letter box with a note attached.

There is no way I would be happy about someone putting their dog's shit in my bin, bagged or not. Most of the bags people use round here are flimsy anyway, and why should I have to put up with the disgusting stench? Or have to clean the bin out because someone didn't carry their dog shit home like other people do, or drop it into the public bins specially for that purpose.

MidniteScribbler Thu 09-Jan-14 22:50:16

Set up a video camera outside your front window to film them. Start a youtube channel putting up footage of everyone who leaves their dogs crap in the park. Put notices up all over town showing the link to your site.

DownstairsMixUp Thu 09-Jan-14 22:54:14

I only have a phone camera sad Would love to set up a camera at my front window to film, would need to work in the dark though as it's always when i wake in the mornings there is poo in the garden. Really feel your pain OP it is driving me nuts!

Lilacroses Thu 09-Jan-14 23:00:54

Absolutely vile op, yanbu at all. Make sure she is reported and charged. I am a huge dog fan and people like this make me sick.

Jimjamatron Thu 09-Jan-14 23:09:01

You could print out one of these posters. Saw a few of them around Edinburgh over Christmas.

AngelaDaviesHair Fri 10-Jan-14 11:23:41

I agree with Hester and Fryone. We've had this and it is disgusting.

We live a stone's throw from a park, so any dog owner could walk to or back to the park and use a special dog crap bin in just over a minute. But no, chuck it in my (unlined) bin to fester. Better yet, don't even bother tying the bag up, so it spills out everywhere. Or just chuck it in the front yard for the kids to walk in on the way out of the house.

Clearly, objecting is my problem, heaven forbid the hard core of bastard dog owners should have to take responsibility. These are people who obviously don't want the shite anywhere near their own homes, but are happy to leave it right outside mine.

***Update*****

I reported her. The guy I spoke to has taken all the details and is passing them to their enforcement team.

They'll call me to let me know what they're going to do. He mentioned them giving her a visit.

She did it again this morning - on the grass verge outside her house angry angry .

Chippednailvarnish Fri 10-Jan-14 11:52:46

Good for you!

MrsPnut Fri 10-Jan-14 11:53:55

If you are willing to appear as a witness if it needs to go to court then our council can give a fixed penalty notice on the evidence of a member of the public. You do need to see the dog poo, see the owner walk away and leave it and know their name and address but it does stop the need for the dog warden to actually see it happen.

DownstairsMixUp Fri 10-Jan-14 11:55:32

Good for you Bunny Hope it teaches her a lesson, lazy mare!

HesterShaw Fri 10-Jan-14 12:02:14

Well done Bunny. Fine and shame!

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Fri 10-Jan-14 12:10:35

This a big problem around my way to. Do dog owners not realise it is against the law (in scotland at least) to not pick up.

It is so fecking selfish and minging.

For any Scots the government are currently looking at things like compulsory dog licenses if you want to comment on the consultation.

If you are unwilling to pick up your dogs shit you should not have a dog

allmycats Fri 10-Jan-14 12:11:35

Good work reporting her, love your post saying that 'she' did it on the grass verge today !!

RobinSparkles Fri 10-Jan-14 12:25:47

Good! Glad you reported her!

This sort of thing really boils my piss. Dirty fucker! And yes, I am swearing. I don't care if "MN has gone down the pan", if you don't like it then go to Bounty!

I hate it when people leave their dog's shit. I hardly let my children walk on grass anymore, I tell them to stick to the path as I'll bet that as soon as they run on the grass they'll stand in something. It makes me cringe!

evelynj Fri 10-Jan-14 13:30:20

You definitely should not use someone else's bin without their permission. It's rude. And yes I do expect you to carry it miles home unless you've asked permission. Just because you don't see it as taking liberties doesn't mean it isn't.

Lift your dog poo & take it to a public poo bin or home.

I love the idea of knocking on & returning her poo. You could say 'I saw you left these on the green earlier & thought you must've ran out of poo bags. Thought I'd save you the bother of going back for them when you get some'

persimmon Fri 10-Jan-14 13:33:48

If I had magical powers I would cast a spell which meant that dog poo not picked up would vanish and reappear on the owner's pillow. Every time.

42andcounting Sat 11-Jan-14 18:44:46

^^ what Evelyn said!!

Some vile person has taken to dropping their bagged dog poo in our recycling bin at the kerb side just after it's emptied on bin day. I'm pretty sure they don't believe it's recyclable, and I don't really think it's my responsibility to hang around waiting for the collection then run out to take the bin in to stop them doing it. They are just cheeky bastards who seem to think that as long as they've bagged it, it's ok to drop it where they like.

If I wanted to handle dog poo I would have a dog!

VivaLeBeaver Sat 11-Jan-14 18:46:32

Next time you see this film her. Dog wardens will warn her for this on your word but they're unlikely to prosecute without evidence. A neighbour got someone doing this outside her house on her CCTV and they used the footage and prosecuted.

VivaLeBeaver Sat 11-Jan-14 18:49:23

Seen your update that she's done it again.

If she carries on I'd put Marigolds on and pick the poo up and shove it unbagged through her letter box. I truly would. Hate dog shit with a passion and I have a dog. I pick up after mine and am fed up with shit been every 5yards on the pavement.

HesterShaw Sat 11-Jan-14 18:57:01

We're in the process of buying a house, which has been empty for a year after the old gentleman died. I recently went to see it again to make some final plans for furniture and so on, and found someone has been allowing their dog to crap all over the garden. Not quite sure what to do, to be honest....

Sorry for hijack, but I figured that we have a perfectly good dog shit thread going already grin

madmomma Sat 11-Jan-14 19:02:13

Dog wardens are generally brilliant OP. Definitely worth gettingin touch with yours.
There are just no words to describe how angry this makes me.
I seriously fear I would completely lose it and end up in prison if I ever catch the person who lets their dog shit at the bottom of my path.

AmIthatWintry Sat 11-Jan-14 19:03:13

Wow. Filthy, filthy, filthy, filthy bitch. Only on Mn could we find someone doing catsbum face over the use of the word bitch.

Letting your dog crap and not clearing up is one of the most anti-social acts you can do/

Bag it up and dump it on her doorstep

Idespair Sat 11-Jan-14 19:11:44

Glad you reported. I don't know how so many people get away with leaving dog turd around. Someone let their dog shit in my front garden on 7 consecutive days. People don't care about other people it would seem. I don't go to public parks for this reason.

CassCade Sat 11-Jan-14 19:33:32

You might like this jackanory break, but my Dad once had a problem with a man who regularly walked his dog past my parent's house at the same time every morning, and always allowed his dog to poo on the grass edge of my parents' rockery. Dog-man would stand and sort of hide behind a tree while the dog did it. This was in the 80's (you knew, the rockery gives it away) and at this time no-one in their right mind would ever have picked up their dog's poo anyway.

One day my dad waited for him at the usual time, then while the dog was crapping, Dad ran out and said very politely, "Oh, excuse me, but where do you live?"
Dog-man warily replies, "Why do you ask?"
Dad replies calmly, "So I can come and crap in your front garden tomorrow morning."
Dog-man very apologetic, never did it again.
You could try something like that?! ;)

LesterBurnam Sat 11-Jan-14 20:06:00

This is one of the main reasons why all dogs except working dogs should be banned. Absolutely disgusting. And before all the dog apologists start, I think people are a lot more important than dogs. In my view the right not to have to put up with stinky shitting dogs trumps anyone's right to own a dog. No doubt lots of you will start on about how poor old ladies will be lost without their dogs etc etc - but I am so so over the mess which appears on a daily basis in my street.

HesterShaw Sat 11-Jan-14 20:15:48

Arf at "banning" an animal. I'm not a fan of fog shit, but that's possibly the silliest thing I've ever read.

Musicaltheatremum Sat 11-Jan-14 20:15:50

CassCade love it.

HesterShaw Sat 11-Jan-14 20:16:15

Dog, not fog. Clearly grin

BlueSkySunnyDay Sat 11-Jan-14 20:22:45

Is there a notice anywhere saying what the fine is for not picking up? If there was Id be tempted to photograph it and put it through her letterbox with info regarding toxicara too (because id guess someone this lazy isnt worming either)

BlueSkySunnyDay Sat 11-Jan-14 20:25:05

LOL at CassCades Dad - good for him

hmm at Lester - do we ban cats too? As its OK to let them crap over anyones garden.

HesterShaw Sat 11-Jan-14 20:26:47

Nooooo! For the actual love of God, don't bring cats and gardens into the equation. The shit...har har har....really will hit the fan! The thread will go wild.

BlueSkySunnyDay Sat 11-Jan-14 20:30:29

Sorry Hester, I only dip in an out of MN - it it a bit of a "disabled parking" type trigger subject?

I was trying to say I thought that was a dumb idea without being too scathing.

Lets face it the dogs in Lester's area are only leaving their crap behind because their human owners arent picking it up.

LesterBurnam Sat 11-Jan-14 20:35:50

Blue I agree that it is the humans who are the problem because they don't pick up after their dogs, but there are just so many bad dog owners out there. But why should I have to put up with shit all over pavement outside my house? Easiest way to stop the problem of bad dog owners and bad dogs is to make it a criminal offence to own one unless it is a working dog = banned smile

HesterShaw Sat 11-Jan-14 20:36:31

Threads involving cats and gardens have to be seen to be believed. The last one was jaw dropping in its mentalness...people advocating harm to animals abd so on. And laughing about it. Some proper WUMs.

HesterShaw Sat 11-Jan-14 20:38:46

Or enforce existing rules?

Suddenly banning pet dogs would not be easy at all and it would break people's hearts up and down the country.

Which you must already know obviously hmm

hollyisalovelyname Sat 11-Jan-14 20:40:45

I know how you feel. I live near a lovely pier walk. But you have to watch your step! Despite notices saying dogs should be on leads and owners should pick up their dog's poo. Nothing is enforced. It makes me really mad .

Bettercallsaul1 Sat 11-Jan-14 20:40:55

Seriously, what is wrong with a bit of dog poo? You can dig it into the garden and it enriches the soil - it is one of nature's fertilisers. Perhaps you should thank the dog owner for the free gift?

LesterBurnam Sat 11-Jan-14 20:41:31

Blue, maybe cats that are allowed out should be banned too. If you want to keep a cat in your house that's your problem (not you in particular obv) but should be a criminal offence to let cats out. Isn't this the case in Australia? Or some parts of it anyways.

BlueSkySunnyDay Sat 11-Jan-14 20:42:04

Lester in our area there is a £1000 fine if you dont pick up after your dog - honestly if you feel that strongly about it you should be getting evidence and ensuring people are prosecuted.

It isnt a problem at all here and there is a fairly hefty dog presence locally - you much just have a lot of smeggy neighbours or some consisten repeat offenders (who feed their dog cheap food)

Hester....backing away from the whole cat thing grin

BlueSkySunnyDay Sat 11-Jan-14 20:43:55

Wondering if I should advocate banning children as they leave cans and bottles on my grass, graffiti the fences and put wrappers in the hedges grin place would be way tider without them

LesterBurnam Sat 11-Jan-14 20:45:32

They are dogs - why would anyone be heartbroken? I just don't get some people's obsession with their pets - they are animals ffs. No doubt there are lots of dog owners who think their dogs are more important than humans but I have really had enough of the mess all over the city I live in. No dogs would mean a much nicer environment for the humans who live here.

LesterBurnam Sat 11-Jan-14 20:47:59

I have reported and reported to the dog wardens. Believe me when I say that if I ever catch anyone not picking up after their dog I will be posting the shit left behind through their door (possibly without a bag)

HesterShaw Sat 11-Jan-14 20:51:50

The problem with threads like this, is that they attract people who post deliberately provocative and insane statements, and then they're derailed.

You don't understand who would be heartbroken if dogs were suddenly banned? Really?

Okaaaaaaay.

HesterShaw Sat 11-Jan-14 20:55:53

And to be quite honest there are a significant number of people who prefer animals to people, with bloody good reason.

Considering this was a thread which was pretty much unanimous in saying that yes, dog owners who let their pets shit everywhere are disgusting, and should be caught and fined....

It only takes one I guess.

LesterBurnam Sat 11-Jan-14 20:57:02

No I really don't know why people would be heartbroken. A bit upset maybe but heartbroken? Not quite the same as losing a loved child, partner, parent is it? I am baffled at the attitudes towards eg dogs yet people couldn't care less that the chicken they are eating lived in the most horrible surroundings or that the cheap bacon they are eating came from a pig that lived in a tiny pen with a concrete floor. Is it because people think dogs are cute or something?

BlueSkySunnyDay Sat 11-Jan-14 20:57:34

The thing is Lester I cant bear cats but I know lots of people love them so whilst I am the queen of the sick cat joke I wouldnt dream of suggesting in seriousness that they are banned.

There are loads of things I hate that other people love, some of them e.g. motobikes, inconvenience and annoy me but to suggest a blanket ban on something just because I didnt like it would be a tad on the unreasonable side.

I suggest you keep hounding grin your dog wardens and find out exactly what they are paid to do.

LesterBurnam Sat 11-Jan-14 20:59:30

Hester, if you have a dog or two I'm guessing that you pick up the mess they make but really cities would be much cleaner places if there were no dogs.

BlueSkySunnyDay Sat 11-Jan-14 21:02:43

Hester - In a house heavy on the male side my dog gives me a lovely comforting nuzzle as she can sense if I am stressed or unhappy

She has been known to wake me up in the night if she is not happy with how I am breathing (although I have to confess to not being delighted by that at at the time)

LesterBurnam Sat 11-Jan-14 21:03:07

I don't hate dogs - indifferent if anything. I grew up on a farm so maybe it's just that I have a less anthromophoric (sp?) view of animals than most. There is something vile about dog shit (and probably cat shit) though when compared to that of farm animals.

LesterBurnam Sat 11-Jan-14 21:04:29

Last post was for Hester

BlueSkySunnyDay Sat 11-Jan-14 21:04:38

Cities would also be cleaner without, vehicles, tramps, fast food restaurants - do we get rid of all of them too? Oh yes and smokers and their packets and stub ends.

BlueSkySunnyDay Sat 11-Jan-14 21:08:13

Lester have you been to a dairy recently - I grew up in the country too, surround by the smell of cow shit and trust me the visit we had to a milking parlour in recent years was disgusting it just doesnt smell the same any more.. I guess as a result of the what the cows eat.

I can also confirm, as the disgusted recipient of many a childhood yellow green fly infested cow pat on my trainer that there is nothing any less vile about it...in fact ive never stepped into a dog shit which encompassed my entire foot and ankle.

LesterBurnam Sat 11-Jan-14 21:11:04

Blue, i hear what your saying but vehicles,tramps, restaurants, cigarette packets and stubs aren't quite as unpleasant as dog shit when you step on them.

LesterBurnam Sat 11-Jan-14 21:11:30

You're, not your!

BlueSkySunnyDay Sat 11-Jan-14 21:14:42

I think we will have to agree to disagree Lester - why do you spend all your time treading in dog shit...I cannot remember the last time I did.

Perhaps you need to move somewhere where the other inhabitants are not so smeggy...99% of ours clean up after their hounds.

LesterBurnam Sat 11-Jan-14 21:15:36

Blue, yes I have been to a dairy recently. My brother runs a dairy farm while he is waiting to take over parents farm Yes, fresh cow pats aren't very nice but still nowhere as bad as dog shit. Anyway, mostly the cow pats stay on the farm though don't they, even in the country it would be quite unusual to find cow pats outside your front door.

LesterBurnam Sat 11-Jan-14 21:17:57

Blue, did I say that I spend 99% of my time stepping in dog shit? No doubt you have dogs and look after them well and pick up after them all the time - they'll still be banned when I take over the world though grin

HesterShaw Sat 11-Jan-14 21:30:29

I don't have any dogs. I'm not a dog lover. I'm just pointing out the ridiculousness of your posts.

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Sat 11-Jan-14 21:35:45

Lester let us then hope you never do take over the world.

LesterBurnam Sat 11-Jan-14 21:45:57

Zombies probably best if I don't take over the world. A few (in fact more than a few) things might be banned.

BlueSkySunnyDay Sat 11-Jan-14 21:46:31

Lester re-read did I say you spent 99% of your time stepping in dog shit or did the 99% relate to responsible ownership in my area?

The cow pats weren't outside my door either but they were on a pathway.

Unforunately for you Lester we live in a democracy and I for one will be ensuring you never take over as will the many thousand other dog owners in the country smile how many over the whole world?

LesterBurnam Sat 11-Jan-14 21:54:35

Sorry blue, I got your 99% and your all your time mixed up. I should have asked you where I had said that I spend all my time stepping in dog shit.

I wouldn't be too sure that dogs won't ever be banned from public places. Maybe not this year or next but if enough of us dog shit objectors make enough of a fuss it could happen.

HesterShaw Sat 11-Jan-14 22:00:36

Most people don't object to dogs. They object to dog shit in public places.

Really not hard to separate the two.

LesterBurnam Sat 11-Jan-14 22:14:00

Hester, I think the problem is that they are too easily separated grin getting rid of dogs from public places would also get rid of the dog shit problem.

BlueSkySunnyDay Sat 11-Jan-14 22:14:47

I love dogs - I hate dog shit in public places and have in fact been known to get VERY annoyed about it.

I dont blame the dog thought it is TOTALLY down to bad lazy ownership and we are seeing a lot of that these days, mainly with regard to training and socialisation. So many people are getting dogs when they are out at work all day and dont have the time to walk and train them properly - I guess that is even more of a problem if you are living in a town.

HesterShaw Sat 11-Jan-14 22:16:23

But I like dogs. They're ok. They run around being fun and barking at seagulls. They amuse me. I don't want them banned!

HesterShaw Sat 11-Jan-14 22:17:19

There are too many though. Puppy breeding farms should be banned, if you want to ban something.

Rosieliveson Sat 11-Jan-14 22:24:09

Was going to say what coffeeinbed said. I don't have a dog but always offer a happy sack from my changing bag.

pennsylvania65000 Sat 11-Jan-14 22:25:38

I agree with previous post. Bitches do squat to wee aswell and my wolf is always mistaken for doing a crap when infact this really isn't the case.

Rosieliveson Sat 11-Jan-14 22:26:11

Happy sack?!!! blush I mean nappy sack.

You could anonymously post a nah of nappy sacks through the door with a post it 'for the dog doo'. It's non confrontational but let's her know it's been noticed.

LesterBurnam Sat 11-Jan-14 22:27:41

Seems that we have a consensus. Everyone hates dog shit, even the dog owners. Solution = ban dogs from public places.

pennsylvania65000 Sat 11-Jan-14 22:28:59

wooh steady on there old chap.

HesterShaw Sat 11-Jan-14 22:32:06

That's not a consensus. That's just you saying that.

LesterBurnam Sat 11-Jan-14 22:36:10

Why steady on? A lot of people are very fed up with dog shit everywhere. Its not just on pavements its everywhere. Other posters have complained about their children getting covered in it at the park, and others about dog owners letting their dogs shit outside schools. Why shouldn't people have the right to enjoy public spaces free from the misery of dog shit? If you want to have a dog keep it in your house/garden/other land that you own. No need to inflict it on the rest of us.

LesterBurnam Sat 11-Jan-14 22:44:30

Hester, you are inconsistent. You say you're not a dog lover than minutes later you say you like dogs. I think there is a consensus that everyone hates dog shit in public places. Not sure why you think there isn't?

I'm sure there are lots of MNers who don't agree with me that dogs should be banned from public places but I'm also sure that there are plenty of people in this country who would support my views.

pennsylvania65000 Sat 11-Jan-14 22:50:16

You can't ban dogs from public places unless you make facilities for dogs to go like in the States. I'm all for Dog Parks. Also I think dog mess is out of control too. Maybe every street should have a dog-crap warden that follows said offender home and contacts Police.

LesterBurnam Sat 11-Jan-14 22:57:04

Good idea Pennsylvania. I'd be good at that job!

Prettykitty111 Sat 11-Jan-14 23:20:57

Lester actually tramps are reeeeaaallllllly unpleasant if you step on them. The dont like it AT ALL!
Hester why should my dog not be allowed in public places when he is well trained and I pick up every poo hes ever done just because of some other moron. If that's the new rule I would like to ban all children from resturants because one kicked my chair alot and runined my meal a while back. I would like to ban all old people from leaving the house because one fell over in front of me and I was late to a meeting helping them. I would like to ban all taxi drivers because one ripped me off. Shall I go on? You can't punish the majority for the minority but you can put poo through the minorities front door (my mums done it loads its easy)!

Frusso Sat 11-Jan-14 23:31:30

pennsylvania65000 some dogs squat to wee too. particularly I the have hip displacia

I hate dog shit. I'm sick of stepping around it. If I can clean up after my dog every other lazy fooker that currently doesn't should too. It's just fooking lazy. And gives decent dog owners a bad name.

LesterBurnam Sat 11-Jan-14 23:38:35

Pretty
You seem to think that dogs should have the same status and rights in society as people. You can't ban children, old people, taxi drivers from public spaces in general because they are human. Dogs, on the other hand are not human, and could easily be banned from public spaces.

The argument about the majority suffering because of the minority just doesn't hold up. Lots of things have been banned from or in public spaces because of the behaviour of the minority. Guns, smoking, speeding cars, parking in certain places.

If I knew which filthy bastards let their dogs shit on the pavement in my street I would do something about it but really why should I have to.

BlueSkySunnyDay Sat 11-Jan-14 23:44:58

My bitch takes ages to wee, I've had people shouting at me as they think I haven't cleaned up after her. [Hmm]

I get the subtle difference between being a dog lover and just liking then.

It does largely sound like you are on your own here Lester

As for the puppy Farm issue its hardly a secret they'd soon go out of business of people stopped buying from them. To me the dogs nature was more important than her breed, she was a rescue and not even a pup when we got her.

Squidwardtenticles Sat 11-Jan-14 23:45:31

Please don't post dog turds in the womans letterbox.
Somebody where I live got fed up of some cow letting her dog poop on his garden so he picked it up, followed her home and posted it.

She rang the police and he got into trouble.

HesterShaw Sun 12-Jan-14 11:48:49

Pretty Wtf? Where have I advocated banning dogs in public places? I had a little rant early in the thread about some bastard putting dog crap in my wheelie bin, but that is all. I think you must be confusing me with someone else shame Lester and Hester rhyme

HesterShaw Sun 12-Jan-14 11:52:48

Lester, sometimes I think people people who farm/grew up on farms have a gigantic superiority complex about their attitude to animals, thinking that theirs is the only right, sane one. You may think all animals are commodites - not everyone agrees with you. You may not understand the concept if having a pet -it's of people do. Thank goodness, some people think that animals have rights as well, otherwise there would be mote cruelty than there is now, and no legislation to tackle these people. And no, I am now not simply talking about dogs in farms.

HesterShaw Sun 12-Jan-14 11:53:32

Farms? Parks, I meant.

HesterShaw Sun 12-Jan-14 12:06:18

Being a "dog lover" implies ownership of dog/s in the same way that I, as a cat lover, have a cat. Quite liking something doesn't mean you love it. Me liking dogs doesn't mean I am a "dog lover" and have them living in my house. No inconsistency. Me quite liking dogs doesn't mean I want the faff and hassle of owning one. I'll leave that to the dog lovers. You don't have to have a dog in order to see that your posts advocating "banning dogs" (ffs!) are barking mad. Yes, it's a pun.

No inconsistency, simply common sense.

And now I'll stop posting on the thread you successfully hijacked.

chandlery Sun 12-Jan-14 13:07:47

Not entirely on thread but consistent to some of the other posters, ie what's the worst poo to step in...

I used to work on an Industrial estate, we would occasionally get travellers camping in a car park overnight... Human excrement takes some beating.

jellyandcake Sun 12-Jan-14 13:20:33

There is tons of dog poo on the pavements round me. It's awful. I often think I hate dogs and would happily ban them but when feeling more rational, I remember that dogs are actually inoffensive, it is horrible anti-social owners who are the problem. So, like I would ban people who play music on their phones on buses and aggressive drivers, I would ban bad dog owners (if it were possible to 'ban' categories of people) but not actually dogs themselves. I just wish there was a way of catching the offending owners as they let their dogs poo everywhere, slapping à massive fine on them and banning them from future ownership of animals.

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