Crowned Adolf Hitler

(51 Posts)
helloeverything Sat 04-Jan-14 16:28:42

At the inlaws over christmas we played the rizla game, writing a character for everyone to guess on their crown out of a cracker.
FIL chose Adolf Hitler as my character to guess. BIL and SIL were suitably horrified, and i laughed it off when i guessed correctly, but afterwards felt really upset.

DH said that it was a typical schoolboy joke of his generation - i feel pissed off, since i know FIL thinks i'm too strict with Dc and assertive on the whole.

What do you think?

Pawprint Sat 04-Jan-14 16:30:14

It's not really funny, is it? He was probably just being silly, but I would have probably taken it as a slight...

LifeIsBetterInFlipFlops Sat 04-Jan-14 16:30:25

I wouldn't be upset enough to post on MN about it, nor even give it another thought.

justabigdisco Sat 04-Jan-14 16:30:32

What exactly were you upset about? It was a game, no?

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helloeverything Sat 04-Jan-14 16:33:44

Disco - he chose it especially for me. It was a joke - but a very pointed one.
I'm happy to be told to lighten up...

LynetteScavo Sat 04-Jan-14 16:35:21

Adolf Hitler was a person who existed, though - and is someone who shouldn't be forgotten, so history isn't repeated.

He could have chosen Pol Pot or Idi Amin, but they would have been harder to guess.

I think you are over reacting slightly.

BlackDaisies Sat 04-Jan-14 16:36:15

It sounds like he doesn't like you very much. It's very pointed. I'm not sure how I'd handle it though, which isn't very helpful, sorry. What do you want to happen - do you want an apology? Maybe talk more to your dh and tell him again how hurtful you found it.

LynetteScavo Sat 04-Jan-14 16:36:23

Oh, he is likening you to Adolf Hitler?

In that case I guess he was being a twat, and had drunk too much wine with lunch.

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AnythingNotEverything Sat 04-Jan-14 16:37:45

Unless there are particular sensitivities (ie you were Jewish for example), I wouldn't bat an eyelid.

YoureBeingASillyBilly Sat 04-Jan-14 16:37:47

If the point of the game was to decide a person who the player resembled then i would be upset but if it was just picking famous people to guess then no issue.

BlackDaisies Sat 04-Jan-14 16:39:30

I can see exactly why you are upset - I don't think it's funny to be compared to Adolf Hitler. It's one of those "jokes" which is actually hiding (badly) a nasty little dig - but where if you complain you're told you "don't have a sense of humour".

Piscivorus Sat 04-Jan-14 16:40:26

It is hurtful even though you know it is silly but there is nothing you can do other than put it to one side but never forget

My very precocious nephew (aged 8) made me Susan Boyle, much to the amusement of himself and his overindulgent parents, everyone else was either hmm or shock. At some point I will have my revenge!

BrownSauceSandwich Sat 04-Jan-14 16:40:55

Are you upset at being reminded that Hitler existed, or do you suspect a dig at you being a bit of a dictator (or genocidal maniac shock)?

If the former, get over it. If the latter, laugh it off. If the cap fits, throwing a bossy fit over it isn't going to make you look any better. And if it's unjustified, it's your FIL who looks an idiot, not you.

helloeverything Sat 04-Jan-14 16:41:09

Lynette, he's a teetotaller, but yes he probably thought he was being a bit cheeky.
I think he resents me stealing away his pfb, and always seems to be simmering with resentment.
I don't want an apology, i just don't want to hang out with him all that much.

BrownSauceSandwich Sat 04-Jan-14 16:41:21

Hah, hissy fit, not bossy fit!

Ubik1 Sat 04-Jan-14 16:42:54

It's just a joke... confused

Recently mumsnet seems to be rather like

KingRollo Sat 04-Jan-14 16:51:27

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helloeverything Sat 04-Jan-14 16:52:44

Brown sauce - the latter of course.
Ok, i'm over it.
Thanks guys

LaGuardia Sat 04-Jan-14 16:56:32


Salmotrutta Sat 04-Jan-14 16:59:52

Yes, what was wrong with being Susan Boyle Piscivorous?

Salmotrutta Sat 04-Jan-14 17:00:47

Oh, and yes - BrownSauce says it all perfectly OP.

HoobleDooble Sat 04-Jan-14 17:05:27

We played this game at my in-laws on Boxing Day, someone gave my sil Rolf Harris to guess. Maybe I need to phone her and let her know she should be horrified as we all obviously think she's an all edged kiddy-fiddler ... Or maybe it was just a game we were playing.

DoYouLikeMyBaubles Sat 04-Jan-14 17:07:23

I thought this game was just about choosing a random person, not one who's likened to anyone?

Bowlersarm Sat 04-Jan-14 17:10:26

I think you are making way too much of it.

Were I choosing Adolf, Margaret T, or any universally known iffy character it absolutely would be pointed and funny. Or maybe not so funny.

Bit like picking the child catcher, cruella de vil or wicked witch of west surely?

pandarific Sat 04-Jan-14 17:26:41

This kind of game is ripe for pointed jokes. He doesn't like you - but then again, you don't like him much either, right?

Fuck 'im - he tried to embarrass you and succeeded. Just be cool with him, don't worry overmuch - he's just an arse. Sympathies - I'd be pissed off too.

SPsFifthConyoIsTheBestConyo Sat 04-Jan-14 17:30:57

I'd have laughed. I don't see why its a big deal or why it means anything. I play with siblings we would try think of the worse possible people ever.

Floggingmolly Sat 04-Jan-14 17:54:19

Have I missed the point of the game? confused. It's a guessing game, and the name is randomly allocated to you...
I've never known people given the name that "fits" with their character / personality, unless your family introduced a new twist?

Piscivorus Sat 04-Jan-14 17:56:23

KingRollo and salmo I don't think there's anything wrong with Susan Boyle herself, in fact I wish I could sing like that, but I felt it was picked in a rather mean way, particularly given his parents' sniggering and a couple of the comments made while guessing, suggesting I was frumpy or something. Maybe I am being oversensitive but, judging by the reaction of others there, I suspect not.
I felt there was something not particularly nice behind it, just as the OP felt about Hitler being given to her.

Hoppinggreen Sat 04-Jan-14 18:00:09

Don't think its offensive - unless there's a bit of a back story ( sounds like there is)
Might have been offensive if someone did this to my OH though as he's German!!

Juliaparker25 Sat 04-Jan-14 18:58:24

Der Fuhrer was a Genius ............What a Painter , one flat two coats one afternoon .....

ArtexMonkey Sat 04-Jan-14 19:02:31

Just laugh and then put him in a home

uselessinformation Sat 04-Jan-14 19:20:41

Next time you play, write the names on post it notes then turn over and shuffle and stick on randomly.

VoteYes Sat 04-Jan-14 19:21:56

Wouldn't be offended by this in the slightest.

ComposHat Sat 04-Jan-14 19:35:45

I think you are creating an issue where one simply doesn't exist op for the Rizla game to work it must be a well known character about whom plenty of facts are known so you're pretty limited to well known celebrities or historical figures. The game doesn't imply the person is like the name on their forehead (last time I was Katie Price and as I am male, hairy and bespectacled, I am unlikely to be mistaken for a surgically enhanced 'glamour' model.

Even if he was having a sly dig at what he perceives as your paranoid and dictatorial tendencies, your reaction made the cap fit very snugly on your own head.

WooWooOwl Sat 04-Jan-14 19:42:29

Unless he is a very patriotic and xenophobic Brit and you are a German, I really can't see why it would even occur to you that it's a problem.

Why were BIL and SIL horrified?

WaitingForPeterWimsey Sat 04-Jan-14 19:50:22

I don't think this is funny, but then I am half Jewish.

Silly to laugh about someone who killed so many. I would be upset if someone was showing my dc that this was ok to do.

I hate the types who they are so cool and hip because they can snigger about child sex offenders and rapists (I also hate any other term, that fluffy ups child rape).

Other than that, it depends on the group that you are with.

It's shit, though, when you are targeted at a time, such as Family events, in a way that you cannot challenge and others are aware if it, it ruins it for everyone.

CasperGutman Sat 04-Jan-14 20:51:25

Any joke that was intended was a bit mean and unfunny, but hardly worth getting upset about.

In my experience, this game is usually played with random historical/fictional characters that aren't meant to "fit" the players.

A good proportion of names you could pick are "baddies" rather than "goodies" so you'd narrow the field greatly if you were too eager to avoid causing offence!

helloeverything Sat 04-Jan-14 20:55:26

Just to be clear - I wasn't offended by someone choosing Hitler in a game - I was upset because it was chosen especially for me. If Fil and I had a good relationship it would be part of an understood banter, but we don't get on well, he never says what he feels, but comes out with underhand jokes like these. I think he thinks I'm like Hitler because I am not at my Dh's beck and call like Mil is with him.
Bil and Sil were shocked because it was directed to me. Next year I will suggest random post-its like as kindly suggested.

MakingEveryDayCount Sat 04-Jan-14 20:59:37

Oh good grief, it's a GAME! You're reading way too much into it.

MakingEveryDayCount Sat 04-Jan-14 21:01:06

We played this game recently. I got chosen to be a minion. Should I have taken offence that he thought I was a dumpy, yellow short arse?! confused hmm

Skrifa Sat 04-Jan-14 21:15:13

It's a game. Last time we played this, I was the panda in Kung Fu Panda hmm

diddl Sat 04-Jan-14 21:21:34

And what did horrified BIL & SIL do SFA?

No wonder he's a bully.

This year, can you think of the name of a lazy, ignorant bully for him?

Mimishimi Sun 05-Jan-14 09:27:42

YANBU, it's hurtful if it's a character they specifically chose for you. Which is why when we play those sort of games, we draw them out of a hat.

Joysmum Sun 05-Jan-14 11:04:39

I think says says more about how you perceive yourself than how others perceive you.

I've chosen Hitler for someone before and they were the kindest and gentlest person ever. If somebody chose Hitler for me I wouldn't think anything of it.

If you think you have been likened to Hitler for traits you see in yourself then you might have identified something in you that you don't like and it's up to you to change it.

Next time you play this game choose Walter Mitty for him.

GlitzAndGiggles Sun 05-Jan-14 15:29:36

I played this game with some friends a few years ago and I got Hitler too. I laughed it off. Simple

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