To not believe the rich light their homes with energy saving bulbs?

(72 Posts)

confused

Are they really sat in such shitty light as I am ?

Simon Cowells ironing his high waisted underpants in yellowy 40 watt equivalent my arse light?

Where the fuck are the rich peoples light bulbs ? Is there a special shop? One wee man crafting them by hand out of fireflys in Monaco?

I've got a lightbulb that cost £18 in my side light as it has a 20 year life span. It's more white than usual but not brilliant white like I remember light used to be

FreyaFridays Fri 03-Jan-14 09:49:58

They must still use chandaliers filled with candles, or strategically bounce the light off their piles of pound coins or something.

summertimeandthelivingiseasy Fri 03-Jan-14 09:58:50

I had an ecozone daylight bulb. It was really good and brighter than the usual 100W equivalent. One of the builders ran off with it angry.

Absy Fri 03-Jan-14 10:11:32

Kimye probably have specially hand blown designer lightbulbs

RandyRudolf Fri 03-Jan-14 10:15:13

Maybe they have these I think it's amazing.

Rooners Fri 03-Jan-14 10:18:08

LED lightbulbs are apparently the new thing and better than the low energy ones
(which I loathe)

They are about 15 quid each but last 25 years or something

No idea, not tried one yet

When my poor old Granny died I filched her stash of real, old fashioned lightbulbs as a matter of urgency. I don't know why you're not allowed to buy those any more.

msrisotto Fri 03-Jan-14 10:20:56

£15 for a lightbulb!

MadeOfStarDust Fri 03-Jan-14 10:29:50

I'm not rich, we use our halogen uplighter if I want to read/do needlework/crafts (230W) but not on all day..

or if you want old fashioned lightbulbs they cost around a quid online from places like the lightbulb company.... (they sell what it says in the name!)

specialsubject Fri 03-Jan-14 10:32:32

what is all this about?

when the bulbs first came out they did indeed give low light and took ages to brighten. No more.

LEDs are best, still a bit pricey but coming down.
eco-halogen are a con.

you can use about a fifth as much electricity if you go to the new bulbs. The rich may be rich because they don't pay five times as much on their bills as they need.

BTW be careful about sticking energy-guzzling bulbs in closed fittings. Just had to replace wiring in a new house because someone did that, how they didn't have a fire is beyond me.

I managed to buy real old fashioned bulbs 100W, I squeeled when I saw them.

Rooners Fri 03-Jan-14 10:36:06

I disagree that LE bulbs are now fine, they are hideous, everything looks orange.

MadeOfStarDust Fri 03-Jan-14 10:36:37

LED bulbs will last 15 years if used for 3 hours a day...... if you are at home, and they are on for 15 hours say 3 years at £15 seems a lot... per bulb... especially as £15 are online prices -

in a shop for an 80W equivalent with a wide beam - i.e. standard type of lightbulb - almost - the coverage is NOT so good as a standard bulb yet.. they will be anything up to double that...

Trills Fri 03-Jan-14 10:36:54

YABU

They just don't use crap energy-saving lightbulbs like the one you apparently have.

Preciousbane Fri 03-Jan-14 10:40:27

DH suggests fluorescent strip lights.

Have you ever worked anywhere with motion sensor lights? We had to sit and wave at our desks every 15 minutes as just sitting and working normally at a desk was not enough to keep them on.

Theodorous Fri 03-Jan-14 10:46:02

I am not hugely rich although have free house and tax free pay but they still sell normal bulbs here. 40,60 and 100 watt cost about 10p each. Those Eco ones are shit, either yellow or bright white. I don't think it's about wealth, surely about whether you care about the environment at the expense of your comfort. I am afraid i don't really care.

KrabbyPatty Fri 03-Jan-14 10:50:26

We've just replaced every halogen spotlight in our house with LEDs.

There were 20 something of them, so it cost a fair bit. Our (extremely wealthy) next door neighbours gave us the idea as they have done it throughout their palace house.

The light they give is no different but some are flickering now, so DH is fitting new transformers. It's proving to be a very expensive cost saving exercise.

MadeOfStarDust Fri 03-Jan-14 10:51:02

I care about the environment, but read and do needlecrafts - so need decent light in the evenings - low energy bulbs- even the brightest - do not provide me with that... so I HAVE to use even higher energy bulbs than I used to to get a decent light.... sometimes it makes me wonder....

ariadneoliver Fri 03-Jan-14 10:56:06

When the announcement was made that the old light bulbs were coming off the market I just stocked up when I saw them on offer. I now have enough stashed away in the loft to see me through to a point where LED lights will be reliable and reasonably priced.

ashInTheAttic Fri 03-Jan-14 10:58:42

Different low energy lights are very different in quality. We tried a large selection out at our school / church before selecting the best and doing a replacement as each incandescent bulb failed. The difference between the good quality and the low quality was very noticeable. We're now on low energy pretty much thoroughfare the school and church, and don't have any problems with light quality, while having cut energy bills substantially.

ChatNicknameUnavailable Fri 03-Jan-14 11:00:59

Er...I bought 'normal' lightbulbs the other day from the pound shop.

They're not all gone!

Catsmamma Fri 03-Jan-14 11:04:52

god fecking lightbulbs are the BANE of my life....

I never have the right one to replace with

then I buy one and it's still wrong....fucking Ikea and their skinny screw fittings

I have pretty chandeliers and all these eco bulbs are ugly UGLY UGLY

<weeps with temper>

But I did find some normal looking candle bulbs that are halogen or somesuch in Home Bargains for £1.79 so now at least I can get dressed in my room in the light instead of the gloom from the bedside lamp.

Catsmamma Fri 03-Jan-14 11:07:13

and the normal ones available from poundland and home bargains are shocking quality, .......i had some and three times I had to replace the lighting board fuse for the down stairs as they go off with such a whoosh. <-- proper actual electrical terminology.

Fakebook Fri 03-Jan-14 11:13:01

My DH went and bought 15 100w "real" lightbulbs from the market about 6 months ago. We still have 10 left. I hate the energy saving bulbs, they give me a headache as the light is so dim. Our local hardware shop also still sells the old bulbs, 3 for £1 I think.

Jude89 Fri 03-Jan-14 11:58:19

They use ones like these. Which are compatible with their dimmable lighting system, if they use proper ecofriendly ones they only last about a week and that's not very eco friendly.

QueenStromba Fri 03-Jan-14 12:02:36

We've bought a load of these LEDs. They work out less than £2 each if you buy five or more, they're lovely and bright and don't give of blueish or yellowy light. The wrong type of light drives me demented but I like them.

Oldraver Fri 03-Jan-14 12:10:46

We have 70 odd bulbs of various designs so will NOT be buying the expensive ECO-ey type bulbs that cost a fortune. I hate the 'will warm up and eventually light the room eventually bulbs'.

<will go and look at the links, as the bulb situation drives me potty and I have threatened to replace all the light fittings with single pendants>

I'd like to save electricity, but the energy saving bulbs I have are awful. I may as well use candles or just go to bed when it gets dark as we did before we discovered electricity.

I've wondered about LED bulbs, but I can't afford to keep buying things to see if they are any good.

The LED bulbs I've seen for sale all seem to output light in one direction like a torch. How does that work for say a table lamp?

Maybe the rich have a dozen light fittings per room so the light gets spread about.

5Foot5 Fri 03-Jan-14 12:49:28

Preciousbane We have that arrangement in the meeting rooms at work. We are all kind of use to it but it does take visitors by surprise when, in the middle of a meeting, the lights go out and we all start waving our arms about.

FrostedButts Fri 03-Jan-14 13:04:34

Say what you like about energy saving bulbs but they've never exploded when I switch them on like the old ones used to. 4 different houses, 4 times I had to spend ages looking for glass in the carpet

AchyFox Fri 03-Jan-14 13:20:29

£18 ? does it make tea ?grin

Or did you buy it 20 years ago ?shock

FraidyCat Fri 03-Jan-14 13:40:33

Some bulbs are much better than others for colour quality, though none as good as the old-fashioned bulbs. Try brand names like Phillips. Though my Asda/Tesco ones are OK.

I don't understand people saying they aren't bright, I put 100W equivalent in a ceiling fitting that only takes up to 75W in old money, energy-saving is much brighter as far as I'm concerned. My desk lamp has always been an 11W flourescent, can't imagine anyone needing more than that for craft work, it's very bright.

I just replaced the three 40W G9s in my bathroom wall-mounted light with 3x7W LED equivalents, even though some of the light from the LEDs gets blocked due to LED being slightly bulkier, overall the 7W LED is only slightly inferior to the 40W incandescent for brightness and quality. I was very worried about the heat from the 40Ws damaging the fitting, some glass was starting to go brown, very happy with the LEDs, no detectable heat.

yarn33 Fri 03-Jan-14 13:42:46

I don't understand people saying they aren't bright,

Me neither, yes they take a couple of minutes to come up to full brightness, but after that they are fine.

SaucyJack Fri 03-Jan-14 14:26:49

All my energy-saving bulbs are about as bright as a mortician's bedroom and I cannot stand the gloom so we now keep all lights on all the time, and have two or three lamps in each room as well. Most people I know either do this, or have about a million light fittings in the ceiling of each room.

This entirely defeats the point of energy saving lights, I know. I wish they'd just give us our proper fucking lightbulbs back.

TheCrackFox Fri 03-Jan-14 14:36:19

Energy saving light bulbs are a crock of shit.

In the olden days we were quite comfortable with one light on in the evening - now we have the ceiling light, a table light, standard light and some candles and it is still too fecking dark. Surely, we must be using more energy with this farce

peking Fri 03-Jan-14 14:40:56

You can buy the old-style "real" lightbulbs online. Think most sellers advertise them as something else in the wording (e.g. like how poppers are marketed as "air fresheners"!) but everyone knows what they really are.

"it does take visitors by surprise when, in the middle of a meeting, the lights go out and we all start waving our arms about."

Brilliant! We need these in my work.

The discount shops, markets sell ordinary bulbs.

I think this is the reason why "the rich" have lots of side tables with lamps and Yankee Candles.

I wonder if the dim light has any effect on eyesight, they way living in candle light used to.

peking Fri 03-Jan-14 14:48:21

Dim light has a shocking effect on eyesight, if my eyes are anything to go by. For years, I used to read in bed by the fading windowlight in the evenings as a child when I wasn't allowed a night-light. I'm now severely short-sighted and noone else in my family is. Don't know if it's coincidence or not, but there haven't been enough studies about this!

Saying that, MN'ers here will be wiser than I was and just turn a frigging light on, though grin

Yanbu. I've got pots of cash and I still exist in a dim half lit world in the evening. It drives me fucking mad that I need to turn the light on 5 minutes before I need it. We also have some led lights as they are cheap to run too.

BillyBanter Fri 03-Jan-14 14:59:39

The ones in my kitchen make it look green from outside. It isn't.

And I can change the colour of a perfume bottle I have just by moving between rooms. It goes from lilac to clear to green.

Want2bSupermum Fri 03-Jan-14 15:02:48

We have so many bloody lights in our house. We live in the US in an area that is environmentally aware (we recycle about 60% of our waste, freecycle, town does the compost to avoid rodent problems) but they have some way to go.

Our house has 47 light sockets in total. I have one LED light in each room throughout the house apart from living room which has two making it a grand total of 14 bulbs. The other light sockets are empty. I got the LED lights through a government sponsored program a couple of years ago and paid $5 for each lightbulb.

We had energy efficient bulbs, they died after about 2 years and were not lighting up the room. If it is possible I would suggest people try my method of using one super bright (100w) LED bulb in each room. A good way to find the cheapest is using the google shopping search. I found some for my Dad on DHgate.com. It is a wholesale website for stuff coming out of China. I think I paid GBP10 for each bulb including shipping.

I'm not rich by any stretch... just too cheap to pay more than I should for electricity! Our electric went from $120/month to $25.

LEDs. I know it's been said but that's what we use.

About £15 each but they last 20-25 years.

Also they're very very cheap in electric to run compared to other bulbs.

torcat Fri 03-Jan-14 15:39:05

You're right they don't, these new bulbs look so ugly in chandaliers wink

Weller Fri 03-Jan-14 15:41:49

You just have to be careful buying led to buy the right coloured white that you want. I like bright white but have found that in the supermarkets they sell warm white. My kitchen resembles an operating theatre it's so bright. The neighbours even knocked as our kitchens are joined and from the garden theirs did looks a dingy yellow compared to ours, we'll it use to now they are the same.

NewtRipley Fri 03-Jan-14 15:46:25

RandyRudolph

Thankyou for linking to that report. Really inspiring stuff.

Alibabaandthe40nappies Fri 03-Jan-14 15:46:27

LEDs are the way to go. We have just replaced kitchen and bathroom and garage lights. The light is amazing and they are so much more economical.

AchyFox Fri 03-Jan-14 15:52:35

A lumen is a lumen is a lumen is a lumen is a lumen is a lumen.

peggyundercrackers Fri 03-Jan-14 15:57:41

still use the old style bulbs here - the whole lightbulb thing is a fitup anyway - you can still get the old style bulbs quite easily.

Orangeanddemons Fri 03-Jan-14 16:01:16

I decking hate these energy saving builds, thy give shite shite light.

I have to look in my sock drawer with a torch when the light is on. I keep a sodding torch in the drawer to locate them.

Orangeanddemons Fri 03-Jan-14 16:04:00

Sorry for typos. Can't see what I'm doing obviously grin

FitzgeraldProtagonist Fri 03-Jan-14 16:04:35

Got some energy savers. Flickered like some mad disco. Gave up. Went back to cheapest at supermarket that fit.

DeathByTray Fri 03-Jan-14 16:07:11

I hate energy saving light bulbs. I am convinced they actually suck any light out of the room.

And they make me look green. Like Kermit.

Ticktock80 Fri 03-Jan-14 16:09:39

Our energy bulbs seem fine too. Bedroom one is silly bright! We have difference wattages depending on what they are for. Ie ceiling bulbs are brighter, lamps are Lowe to give more of a glow. I don't need a light to read with as ipad is backlit [wank]

Orangeanddemons Fri 03-Jan-14 16:09:40

Do they actually save anything? You seem to need twice as many.

Ticktock80 Fri 03-Jan-14 16:10:25

WINK. wink wink... Jeso....maybe I do need more light blush

If you have a 100w bulb now then you want the same brightness in lumens. That narrows it down as even the ones that claim to be 100w equivalent are mostly not. I'm looking at a standard 100w bulb now that says 1150 lumens and a 100w equivalent which is 950.

They need to fit in the same space because replacing all light fittings is not environmentally friendly and doesn't save money.

They have to be the same color and they just don't offer that. They say they have other colors you will get used to.

Oh and they are directional like standing a torch upright. In some light fittings that might be ok, but mostly not what you want.

The bit about them warming up might be fine if you plan to leave the light on all evening, but take kitchen, hall and bathroom lights. You really need them to work right now.

2rebecca Fri 03-Jan-14 16:42:41

Mine are fine, the old energy saving bulbs took a while to brighten up fully but most people just don't buy bright enough low energy lights. I get our bulbs online as there is more choice. The wealthier people I know have more enrgy saving bulbs as long term they are cheaper and you don't need to faff around changing them. You do need to pay more for decent ones though.

caroldecker Fri 03-Jan-14 18:10:46

You need to buy the daylight ones - 6,500k colour temp.

CynicalandSmug Fri 03-Jan-14 18:36:27

I had energy saving bulbs, bloody awful things that ended up in the bin. Good old fashioned bulbs here.

OneUp Fri 03-Jan-14 18:59:28

What am I looking for to get the old fashioned lightbulbs? I don't WANT the energy saving ones, they have mercury in them.

Orangeanddemons Fri 03-Jan-14 19:12:48

Where do you get them from?

SpikeyTree Fri 03-Jan-14 19:14:46

You just have to get bright ones. 40 Watt bulbs were never bright, so no chance a 40 Watt equivalent would be bright. I'm sitting working in the office with a 100 Watt equivalent white light energy saving bulb and it is plenty bright.

caroldecker Fri 03-Jan-14 20:35:04

I have got them from JL.
Also people who bought them several years ago may not be benefitting from the development in the last few years

msrisotto Sat 04-Jan-14 09:16:46

I bought some lovely bright bulbs from Homebase yesterday, box of 2 for just under a fiver.

Gladvent Sat 04-Jan-14 09:19:37

Don't get LEDs the light is terrible for your sleep patterns.

EeyoreIsh Sat 04-Jan-14 09:28:40

Our house is entirely lit by energy saving or LED bulbs. We have no problem with them not being bright enough (quite the opposite at times).

It makes a massive difference to the electricity bill.

We don't spend lots on the bulbs, we really shopped around to get a good deal.

We've not had to change a single light bulb in this house since moving in 18 months ago, apart from lots of bloody halogens which we've swoped with LED as they go, as we've worked out that's cheaper than constantly replacing halogens.

notallthere Sat 04-Jan-14 11:09:12

I think the energy saving lightbulbs have improved over the last 5 years.

When they first came out I tried one (the twisted coil version) but ended up taking it out and replacing it with a normal lightbulb because it wasn't bright enough (even after time to warm up) and it strained my eyes to work in the dim light.

About a year ago I noticed we had a different type of bulb (with long loops instead of coils) and found this version was much brighter, almost as bright as the original old style bulbs.

You can always import proper ones from a less daft country.

hollyisalovelyname Sat 04-Jan-14 11:22:31

Am really fed up with EU rules on light bulbs. I can't get replacements for the light bulbs on my lovely chandeliers. Just horrid see clear bulbs available. I know it's a first world problem.

Amazon sell standard bulbs. Just search for 100w or 60w light bulbs

sashh Sat 04-Jan-14 12:37:14

Where are you OP I have a cupboard full of them. I can send you some.

My house has them fitted when I moved in and for some reason my mum keeps putting my name down for free light bulbs and as none of mine have ever blown I have loads.

Nice shades make a big difference IMO, they filter the bluey or yellowy tones.

This house had LEDs in parts of it when we rented it last year and they seem fine to me where they're set into the ceiling or in decent shades, but the rest looks a bit cold.

montysma1 Sat 04-Jan-14 20:33:14

ALDI, 100w or 60w old style incandescent bulbs. 3 for £1.49. I take nothing to do with new fangled bulbs, they are an abomination.

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