To be very peeved that some bloke thinks he's entitled to park his car on my parents drive...

(61 Posts)
glossyflower Thu 26-Dec-13 19:38:25

My parents neighbour has a friend who visits and for the past year sees it acceptable to park on my parents drive.
The drive is big enough to fit 2 cars, but my parents have one car plus I visit often with my baby.
My dad was very sick and since passed away but he asked this bloke to move his car and not park there as it is private property and this bloke asked my dad if he was being racist! This bloke is Czecz - my dad has Eastern European parents himself but as he was so unwell with leukaemia he just left it at that. My mum went round, very angry that this bloke pulled the race card and told him in no uncertain terms never to park on their drive.
Well since then this bloke keeps parking there.
Tonight I had been there and nipped out for 20mins to the shops to return to this cz plate Mercedes on the drive.
I knocked on the door and politely but firmly told him to remove the car and to stop parking there. This bloke has not seen me before so he lied outright to my face and said it was his first time visiting and he didn't know where to park!
Again I reminded him it was private property. He even had the cheek to ask which was my car (parked on the road) and if I was using the drive!
He moved it, but I notice he has a council parking permit displaying his address, no tax (foreign cars need uk tax after 1 year and this bloke has been parking in the drive for more than a year now).
What can I do? What would you do? This guy does eventually move but he's slightly aggressive in his manner and he is not accepting he can't park there! I'm sure the police wouldn't be interested. I'm thinking along the lines of letting down his precious tyres. My mum is planning on getting a chain across the drive and she had been parking her car across both spaces (but annoying when I want to drop in!).
He's a horrid man and I despise how he treated my dad. I don't know if he knows that my dad has passed away but I'm worried for my mum being on her own in the house and if this bloke gets upset with us telling him to move it.

Wolfiefan Thu 26-Dec-13 19:39:28

Call police?

MidniteScribbler Thu 26-Dec-13 19:42:18

I think the chain or barrier sounds like your safest bet. A bit of a pain, but if there's no option for him to park there, then you avoid the argument altogether. She could always give you a copy of the key so she doesn't need to come out when you come for a visit.

Its not really a police matter unless he starts getting very aggressive.

Its a civil matter really.

Can your mum not speak to the neighbour instead of the man himself, sometime when he isn't there?

sykadelic15 Thu 26-Dec-13 19:44:43

Can you call a tow truck to take the unauthorised vehicle from private property?

Does the neighbour own the property? If not you could try contacting the landlord/agent.

You could try calling the police and having this person warned.

You could try calling the council about the vechile including the permit number and how the vehicle has no tax info.

You could try the chain fence OR you could put down some of those cement barriers for a clear delineation OR you could paint an obnoxious yellow line down the middle.

No matter what you do this could cause drama.

HermioneWeasley Thu 26-Dec-13 19:44:49

There was a brilliant thread where some woman parked her car on the OP's drive. She got a neighbour to park across the drive blocking her in and then left a note with an email address so arrange getting it moved. It was fantastic.

HECTheHeraldAngelsSing Thu 26-Dec-13 19:44:53

Id invest in those bollards that you use with a key to either lay flat or stand up because in all honesty i dont think this bloke gives a fuck and the only thing that will stop him will be being physically unable to use the drive.

I know you shouldnt have to and all that but sometimes its a choice between someone utterly taking the piss or you doing something you 'shouldnt have to' . Cos youre not dealing with a reasonable person.

mymatemax Thu 26-Dec-13 19:49:03

what an arse, I would try appealing to the neighbours better nature first (rather than the visitor)
Next time block him in & go out for the evening

SecretNutellaFix Thu 26-Dec-13 19:50:15

Get it towed. It's parked on private property when it should not be.

Serve the aggressive twat right if it is subsequently discovered to have the incorrect tax information.

addictedtosugar Thu 26-Dec-13 19:50:16

If you arrive when he's there, just block him in!

Or, could you Mum park in the middle, making it impossible for him to park on the drive, and then when you visit you could block her in, on the basis she is unlikely to want to go out while your there?

I'm assuming it is clearly your parents drive? Not one that is possibly shared with the neighbours? If not, I'd make sure its marked in some way.

Lweji Thu 26-Dec-13 19:54:17

Check this.

You may be able to call the police.

But it might be easier to put a chain across the entrance to prevent people from parking there.

MsVestibule Thu 26-Dec-13 19:55:52

What's your Mum's relationship like with her neighbours?

IneedAsockamnesty Thu 26-Dec-13 19:56:13

If its ONE driveway for your mums house and not shared then is there anyway you can visit block him in then go away for a few days

Andrewofgg Thu 26-Dec-13 19:57:19

Chain and two keys. He won't call the police and advertise his untaxed car. What an arse.

glossyflower Thu 26-Dec-13 20:00:23

It's clearly their drive although the front garden is walled the driveway is open but it's obviously their property when you look at it.
I will speak to the neighbour again when he's not there, but then she's a bit of a piss taker too - always asking to borrow gardening tools if you're ever out there using them and once nailed a marquee to my parents fence post (almost pulling the fence down in the process; their own fence is smaller next to my parents fence).
Next time I will park my car behind his, earlier I was just so cross I stomped off round there to confront him!

glossyflower Thu 26-Dec-13 20:03:01

The neighbours are terrible neighbours, my parents have had lots of problems with them and despite asking them nicely not to play their organ all day every day quite loudly, they say they will turn it down, they just keep doing it the next time. This has been so bad that other neighbours in the street have reported the noise to the council and they are at the end house.

soverylucky Thu 26-Dec-13 20:03:15

1. Call 101 and ask for advice - it is trespassing after all.
2. Block him in every time he is parked there and you need the drive.
3. Appeal to the neighbour to ask their friend to not park their.
4. As a last resort get the chain/barrier thing.
Hope you get sorted op.

glossyflower Thu 26-Dec-13 20:05:06

Thanks. All great advice. Xxx

IneedAsockamnesty Thu 26-Dec-13 20:05:12

Big post put up and locked after he's parked and don't let him out for weeks

Perfectlypurple Thu 26-Dec-13 20:07:18

Its not a police matter. They cannot get involved in trespass matters. Thats is civil

You can get a lockable parking bollard for under £30 on amazon

mymatemax Thu 26-Dec-13 20:11:00

unless he causes any damage whilst trespassing then it remains a civil matter.
The police may be willing to support you by having a friendly chat and asking them to refrain from parking on your Mums drive.
Get some advice from the community police officer.

CSIJanner Thu 26-Dec-13 20:18:32

If he's been parking there for over a year and doesn't have tax, you could also possibly have a word with the officer that he should have applied for his UK drivers license instead of CZ. There are ways around it - going home for a month so therefore not resident in the UK for 12months straight etc but if he's being aggressive in his tone, then its worth a mentioning if you call 101.

Andrewofgg Thu 26-Dec-13 20:23:46

He may have got a UK licence - it's straightforward if you have an EU licence - but he should tax the car. Then he should foad mend his ways.

PTFO Thu 26-Dec-13 20:25:05

either park far enough back to ensure only your mums car is on driveway or/and block him in, but be prepared to have 'gone on holiday for a few weeks.'

Inertia Thu 26-Dec-13 20:25:23

The danger with somebody like this is that they we will damage your car if you block them in.

I would go for the lockable bollard and also try reporting for tax.

WorrySighWorrySigh Thu 26-Dec-13 20:38:59

Dob the untaxed vehicle in especially if it keeps getting dumped on your DM's drive (though you can just dob it in anyway):

https://www.gov.uk/report-untaxed-vehicle

We did this repeatedly when a neighbour left an untaxed vehicle parked half on the pavement blocking up a large part of a cul-de-sac.

The car was finally towed away a few days ago.

Perfectlypurple Thu 26-Dec-13 20:57:19

A foreign car has to be taxed and registered as a uk car within 6 months of it first entering the uk. He can't drive out and back in and start again.

He can drive on Czech licence for good.

34DD Thu 26-Dec-13 21:33:27

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

All good advice. As a civil matter could you 'fine' him for unauthorised parking?

flatmum Thu 26-Dec-13 21:43:37

Report him to the DVLA for a start. Then block him in at every opportunity, making sure you visibly take many photos of his address on the permit and his licence plate in case he does any damage. If he does, report to 101 with his address.

This is the sensible thing to do. In personally would go round there with my DP, "accidentally" scratching the Merc with the rivets on my jeans as I went past, and scream in his face abusively until he apologised and promised not to do it again.

I presume this pair of arseholes are elderly?

ivykaty44 Thu 26-Dec-13 21:47:44

Take photograph of car and send to dvla saying it has been parking on your drive for over a year and is not yet registered....
Will not stop him being a twat but will mean they start chasing his vehicle

CerealMom Thu 26-Dec-13 21:53:07

www.securitybollardsdirect.co.uk/automatic_rising_bollards.html

Bollards for the drive. Ether lockable or automatic.

DirtyDancing Thu 26-Dec-13 22:18:10

And if toy get a lockable bollard, make sure you fit it when he's parked on your drive. Idiot that he is. Deserves to be locked in for a week or two.

wowfudge Thu 26-Dec-13 22:31:34

Just unbelievable behaviour from this guy. Definitely go for something robust - a lockable bollard or even fitting gates you can padlock shut would be best. I cannot understand why someone would think this is in any way acceptable - he's a bully and thinks he can do as he pleases.

InSpaceNooneCanHearYouScream Thu 26-Dec-13 23:10:01

This is something the local police would be more than happy to intervene with, once you explain he has been asked to stop on numerous occasions and is completely ignoring you. We have involved local police with a similar matter and they were fantastic- this is not a dispute or argument- this bloke is clearly in the wrong and the police should have a word. Good luck, and sorry about your Dad.

mousmous Thu 26-Dec-13 23:18:53

call the police.
if he is a resident in the uk and hasn't registered his car here also the dvla and hmrc will be interested as it's illegal.
you can report an untaxed vehicle here

VivaLeBeaver Thu 26-Dec-13 23:19:17

I'd block him in and report to the police for it been untaxed. Hopefully they'll seize it!

mousmous Thu 26-Dec-13 23:22:48

A foreign car has to be taxed and registered as a uk car within 6 months of it first entering the uk.

that has changed to 'immediately'
https://www.gov.uk/importing-vehicles-into-the-uk/overview

he might even be liable for vat.

MoreThanChristmasCrackers Thu 26-Dec-13 23:25:33

Key it.

fivegolddeblooms Thu 26-Dec-13 23:28:59

Wow.

This all sounds awful, OP, and I have no advice but wanted to say I'm very sorry for the loss of your Father sad I hope you and your DM have found Christmas ok. This time of year must be difficult enough without ignorant neighbours' and their visitors making it worse.

shewhowines Thu 26-Dec-13 23:51:55

Is he parking on your private property so that he avoids being done for the no tax thing, which he might be if parked on a public road? Risking your wrath might be better than risking a fine.
Report the no tax, then ignore for a while, so there is no proof it was you and no comeback. Get bollards if it continues.

sashh Fri 27-Dec-13 07:38:30

Call 101 if he has no tax then he is also not insured.

I'd be tempted to get a wheel clamp and put a notice up saying there is a £100 fine for parking.

WorrySighWorrySigh Fri 27-Dec-13 07:45:09

Keep reporting the vehicle, it is anonymous. You can report that it is being moved (ie being driven). Also, being off road to avoid road tax only works if the vehicle is SORNed.

It is a nuisance as it is being parked on private property. Report, report, report.

Sister77 Fri 27-Dec-13 07:45:28

Sorry for your loss, life's hard enough without toasters like this making it worse! You need a couple of bruisers preferably not white (can't use the race card then) to tell him to shift.
Hate parking threads they make me irate and give me road rage!

Sister77 Fri 27-Dec-13 07:45:52

Toasters = tossers! Sorry

Mrsuncertainty Fri 27-Dec-13 08:15:32

Unbelievable cheek! Hope you get this sorted OP. I would be wary of blocking him in though in case he just rams your car, or your DMs...

Keep reporting the tax dodge though. It would be sweet to see his car being towed away! :D

Theodorous Fri 27-Dec-13 08:33:02

Cat food under the door handles, butter over the windscreen and milk through the sunroof. If that fails, torch the bloody thing.

BalloonSlayer Fri 27-Dec-13 08:33:24

Perhaps he is parking on your DM's drive because he doesn't have road tax? He thinks as long as it is not parked on the street he won't get prosecuted.

If you call 101 and say "There is a car that keeps parking on my DM's drive." they may not be interested. If you say "There is a car that keeps parking on my DM's drive, it has no tax and I think that's why he is doing it - he gets aggressive when I tell him to move it" they may be more interested - it's an "easy win" for a prosecution. ("Move your car off the lady's drive sir. Do you have any tax sir? Were you intending to drive your car without any tax sir?")

Joysmum Fri 27-Dec-13 08:43:27

We had someone block our drive. 101 were very helpful as they rang the owner who came out of the house they were visiting and apologised.

I'm sure if you rang and happened to mention the tax the police would be happy to help if it's a quiet time and that would be enough to deter him.

I certainly wouldn't be spending out buying chains or bollards etc, nor could I be bothered to use them so I'd be wasting my money.

flatmum Fri 27-Dec-13 08:49:51

You've got his address. Seriously. Send some large ethnically diverse friends round to have a word.

flatmum Fri 27-Dec-13 08:54:04

Or get a lawyer to send a threatening letter mentioning he will be reported to the DVLA and police if he keeps doing this.

Can't believe how calm you are being, very impressive. If someone had intimidated my mother like this when my father died I'd have been on thermonuclear defcon 1 - I'd have done all of the things mentioned on this thread and more. Your poor mum, and you, don't need this crap. So sorry for your loss.

diddl Fri 27-Dec-13 08:58:43

I agree with DVLA & 101.

Try those first before spending money, OP.

ChoudeBruxelles Fri 27-Dec-13 09:02:21

I would be tempted to block him in and then refuse to move your car.

SantasComingEarlyHisSackIsFull Fri 27-Dec-13 09:29:26

Order some "Tyre Nails" ("Problem Neighbour? Burst his fucking Tyres" grin) from the Viz.

I admire your grace under pressure. My piss would be boiling.

I think BalloonSlayer has got it - he's trying to avoid being done for not paying tax. And if his car's not taxed, there's every chance it's not insured either. I suspect he sees your Mum as an easy target. I'd definitely report him.

glasgowsteven Fri 27-Dec-13 11:45:16

In scotland it is a civil matter, he can park in your drvie if he wants.

If you touch his car to move it - say you knew 8 strong men who could lift it.

and you did, and moved it out back to the road, any damage would be criminal damage.

NigellasDealer Fri 27-Dec-13 11:49:45

phone the police, they called on me when someone complained about my hi top van 'blocking their view' when it was parked on the street (no designated spaces) and these people also complained that 'sometimes i painted my van'.
so i think that would be a better idea than 'sending large ethnically diverse friends round' don't you?

sashh Fri 27-Dec-13 12:02:16

I would be tempted to block him in and then refuse to move your car.

I did that at the cinema once.

Couldn't get in to the disabled parking for twats without blue badges blocking the spaces. Then we looked for the longest running film to see.

coffeeinbed Fri 27-Dec-13 14:18:02

It's really unfortunate when these cars happen to be pages some some rotting fruit may fall on the bonnet and rot the paintwork away.
Or some crumbs happen to fall and attract the pidgeons who might accidentally peck the paint.
Very unfortunate indeed.

coffeeinbed Fri 27-Dec-13 14:21:03

Parked.
Not pages.

Lego999 Fri 27-Dec-13 20:14:35

What an awful situation to be in.

I personally would try not to be quite so confrontational - after all your mum lives there I her own and who really knows what the repercussions could be?

If it were me I would park on the drive in a way to ensure he couldn't physically fit his car on the drive. Immediately and nano impishly report him to the dvla/police for no tax. Leave your car obstructing his ability to park there until the police have discovered him.

So sorry for your loss OP.

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