To be fucked off about Working on Christmas Day

(180 Posts)
Flipflopskid Sat 16-Nov-13 05:28:49

I am working ( not by choice) on Christmas Day ( absent from home from the early hrs of the 24 th even...) and will not be home til gone 11 pm on the 25th, hence I will be forced to miss out on everything.

The joy has gone from my heart. I'm well fucked off I can tell you.

In the past I have always shunned the idea of Christmas in a hotel, Christmas lunch in a restaurant etc. out of respect for the poor buggers who would have to work it; like their families don't matter at all ....

God it makes me so angry that people don't think about this when booking their flight,making a reservation for a mini break etc. cos they can't be bothered to do it all themselves!

" I know lets get some other poor bastard to do it instead and hey, just for god measure, fuck up a prospective special magical parent/ kids bonding session whilst we're at it!"

Am I being unreasonable?

DropYourSword Sat 16-Nov-13 05:35:24

It sucks to work Christmas day, but plenty of people have to. If you work in certain industries it's just part of the job. It sounds like you work in the service industry...has it come as a surprise to you that you're working Christmas day?

livinginwonderland Sat 16-Nov-13 05:52:40

It sucks, but the world doesn't stop just because it's Christmas. There are plenty of other religions and cultures out there and the 25th December means nothing to them - it's just another day.

Just celebrate Christmas on another day if you're working. It can be just as special even though it's not celebrated on the 25th.

DaddyPigsMistress Sat 16-Nov-13 05:52:57

Just move Christmas to the 25th. Its what we do

DaddyPigsMistress Sat 16-Nov-13 05:53:29

To the 26th even

Featherbag Sat 16-Nov-13 05:58:30

Of course YABU! I'm guessing your employer hasn't suddenly decided to open for business on Christmas Day, that you took the job knowing there's a chance you'd have to work it? I'm a nurse, I hate working the holidays (one of my shifts was as A&E triage nurse on New Year's Eve nightshift, I'm not sure there IS a shittier job in the world!), especially now I have 1, very nearly 2 young children, but I knew it was part of the job when I took it, so I don't get to complain about it! If you don't like it, make sure you're in a different job next year.

ChippingInLovesAutumn Sat 16-Nov-13 06:07:37

As a single bloke, were you planning on having Pie on Christmas Day and a nice hot, savory, drink?

Flipflopskid Sat 16-Nov-13 06:08:07

Thanks Guys I'm a bit calmer now.

Woke to the news.... A cup of tea has helped.

I've never worked Christmas before, and started thinking of all the people in such lines of work that don't have the chance to spend it with their families.
I work in IT and its a new thing the greedy corporate fuckers are 'trialling.'

(Also a family member is gravely ill and I guess it's just hit me that this will be their last Christmas and I won't be there.......)

Flipflopskid Sat 16-Nov-13 06:17:29

Bloke......?

Not the last time I looked

JudyJudgypants Sat 16-Nov-13 06:22:27

There are positives to working on Christmas day such as not having to get up at 4am to peel sprouts cos MIL loves them, and every time someone says will you be able to help with, you can say in solemn tones "No I won't be here I've got to WORK on Christmas day"
Seriously,you get all the karma points with none of the real sweat.
you will be well out of the way of the rows, tantrums, hissy fits that can go down in a family's Christmas day history ) plus afterwards you get to be all "tired out" on boxing day and have everyone else fuss over you because you were "WORKING" on Christmas day.
( I'm sorry your family member is ill though, I hope they defy the prognosis, but in times like that it can be of comfort to them if you carry on as normal)

steff13 Sat 16-Nov-13 06:24:51

My husband worked at a radio station when we were first married, and he had to work on Christmas. We were married four years before we spent a Christmas together. It's no fun.

Do you at least get paid double time?

DropYourSword Sat 16-Nov-13 06:30:38

chipping Why the Pie and Bovril accusation on this one? Seems pretty genuine here.

Flipflopskid Sat 16-Nov-13 06:35:30

Yes, Drop , genuine.

Baffled by this too....

OhMerGerd Sat 16-Nov-13 06:37:28

My DD is working Christmas Day she's a nurse. So we're putting lunch back till she gets in it will be dinner.

Luckily she's got a 7 till 3 shift. One of her colleagues got a 7 till 7.30pm which I think is a little unfair. Regardless of whether you have DC or not most people ( who follow the predominant religion/ or it's traditions and live in this country) like to spend time with family on that day. I think the shifts should be split so people do early, late and night.

Flipflopskid Sat 16-Nov-13 06:45:19

Thanks Judy, that made me chortle.

Ahhh, the reality!

Boxing Day it is- if the family can stick each other out another Day smile

Thanks Guys!

And Featherbag ill raise a glass to you on the day!

Thanks for your dedication thanks

Flipflopskid Sat 16-Nov-13 06:58:14

Spot on re shifts OhMer!

I've often offered to work for other colleagues to free them up for their various religious festivals and they have put themselves forward for me likewise, but apparently this would be 'unfair' and tramples on one ruling for all in the name of equal practice.

Go figure.

Thank you for the comments everyone.I am officially now back in the Christmas spirit!

Now where's that advocaat.......?

dobedobedo Sat 16-Nov-13 07:01:37

Have fakemas. Every other year we celebrate Xmas a few days before the 25th and everyone likes fakemas more. grin

Flipflopskid Sat 16-Nov-13 07:04:44

Even better Dobe!

FAKEMAS - love it already! Thanks!

IamInvisible Sat 16-Nov-13 07:07:12

My DH won't even be in the country over Christmas.Nor will a lot more members of the Armed Forces. We're just going to slap a smile on our chops and get on with it.

My dad worked countless Christmases because he was a fireman. The emergency services and health workers do it regardless of whether people book mini breaks. Tbh, I can't remember a bad Christmas, we just worked everything around his shifts.

StayAwayFromDeliriumDive Sat 16-Nov-13 07:11:54

DH is working Christmas Day, as he has done on many occasions since I met him.

If you could all promise not to set fire to your turkey, or anything else for that matter, I could have some help with assembling to Lego mountain the boys have asked for...

petalsandstars Sat 16-Nov-13 07:13:43

I've got a Christmas dinner [sceptical] with PIL on 25th then with my DPs and siblings on 26th.

apparently MIL can only cook it on 25th so I'm not too fussed that shifts means the 26th suits my family better.

Family politics means my Christmas will feel like the 26th anyway

petalsandstars Sat 16-Nov-13 07:14:48

[Hmm] even...... 5 hours sleep thanks dd

Flipflopskid Sat 16-Nov-13 07:14:52

You see that's what we should all be doing....giving people the chance to have it off

Flipflopskid Sat 16-Nov-13 07:15:13

Christmas

I'm working Xmas day too. And boxing day and all of new year.
That's just the way my shifts worked out.

Flipflopskid Sat 16-Nov-13 07:16:56

Now I really am being Unreasonable.....

Just please everyone spare a thought for the people out there who have to work this Xmas. That's all I ask x

piratecat Sat 16-Nov-13 07:20:53

so this new trial within work. i am intrigued as to why xmas day is relevant.

Both my parents were police so normally one or the other had to miss Christmas day. Can't say it made a big impact on us.

I can get where you're coming from if it's in an industry you don't expect it. I used to get mighty peed off starting at 4am on Boxing Day for sales in (very well known) retail brand as it meant I couldn't have a proper drink Christmas Day just so saddos could do some shopping at some ungodly hour of the morning.

Thegreatunslept Sat 16-Nov-13 07:24:01

I have worked every Christmas Day for the last 7 years! I'm an aux nurse so it has to be dun and as I never had children until now (ds is 5 months) I never minded as it let people with children spend the day with them.
Although my work does half the shifts so ur either working 7-3 or 3-9 so it usually works out fairly!
We get dsd on Boxing Day so I always book that day off and we have Boxing Day as our Christmas Day.
I'm off this year! Bit only because I'm off on maternity!

WhosLookingAfterCourtney Sat 16-Nov-13 07:24:41

I completely agree re going to pubs etc on christmas day, I wouldn't dream of it.

How do they justify an IT company being open? Bizarre.

Ladyflip Sat 16-Nov-13 07:26:50

You have my sympathy, but hopefully it won't be too busy at work, everyone will be in good spirits and maybe your employer will stump up for a tin of festive Roses.

My DH is a farmer, so every Christmas is a working one, but we try to make it fun. It's taken me years to get used to it though, and even now I throw the odd temper tantrum!

I hope you enjoy whatever you decide to do.

poorbuthappy Sat 16-Nov-13 07:30:53

My dad worked many Christmas days. And do you know something?
My overriding memories of Christmas are just great fun, lovely food, presents with a loving family.
It doesn't matter when it is.
Work, get paid, enjoy the next day instead. smile

LtEveDallas Sat 16-Nov-13 07:33:20

The year I was pregnant with DD I pretty much cancelled Christmas. DH was away (Iraq), I was stuck in Germany with no family around me. Most of my friends were also in Iraq.

I decided to be generous and give my (3) staff a gift... We were having to do 24 hour duties stuck in the HQ (incl sleeping there). I volunteered to spend 3 days; Xmas Eve, Xmas Day and Boxing Day.

Most miserable 3 days of my life! A couple of work phone calls, couple of faxes but otherwise no bloody contact with the outside world at all. I thought one of them would at least turn up with a turkey sandwich for me. I ate microwave meals, watched crappy BFBS TV and read a lot of books.

The same people then asked me if I would do NY Eve and Day because "it's not like you will be drinking anyway, is it?"

I told them to fuck off.

cantheyseeme Sat 16-Nov-13 07:36:57

Im on mat leave this xmas but will be working xmas and boxing night, tbf its better than xmas eve night, i will do my xmassy stuff on the day and all i miss is the getting pissed part which im not arsed with anyway, it must suck ass to miss the actual daytime though confused

Cruze Sat 16-Nov-13 07:45:39

I do feel for those having to work but accept in some professions it is just what we have to do. If you are not used to it, it probably is a shock.

OH's shifts have worked out horrible this year, ZERO days off between 20th Dec until 2nd Jan. The first 7 days are 12-9pm and the rest 7pm-4am. It's an hour travelling each way... I've pretty much accepted Christmas without him this year, his mum has demanded we go to her house at 8am Christmas morning to watch his nieces and nephews opening their presents so we won't even get a couple of hours to ourselves with our kids on Christmas morning.

I am a bit miffed! It is the first year our 3 year really 'understands' what's happening and it will be our 6 months old first Christmas.
I just keep reminding myself to be grateful that he has worked a fair few extra shifts the last few months so I can stay off work until after Xmas or I could also have been working Christmas, as I have done 9 out of the last 11 years!

Chesntoots Sat 16-Nov-13 07:51:12

I used to work in a mobile phone call centre. Triple time Xmas day.

We used to get lots of calls first thing with people putting credit on pay as you go phones they got for Xmas.

I received lots of calls from stressed people with screaming, shouting children in the background. Most of the callers sounded fed up and at the end of their tether. I was quite pleased to be in an office with lots of free choccies, free Xmas dinner and big screens showing Xmas films. I wouldn't have swapped with them for all the tea in China!

Financeprincess Sat 16-Nov-13 07:54:20

The IT company is probably open to provide support for systems that have to run 24/7, 365 days (e.g. in banking).

You can make the day fun, OP. There will be a lovely festive atmosphere where you work, and presuming that it's a hotel or restaurant you'll probably get some good tips. I used to work Christmas Day in a pub/restaurant when I was a student and it was a real laugh.

In the nicest possible way, I'd suggest you drop the 'spare a thought' business. IME people tend to say this when they want you to feel guilty about their imagined suffering, which you can't do anything about. The people who are having Christmas lunch where you work deserve to have a nice time, and are paying handsomely for it. Try not to be resentful of them for disturbing Christmas for you. It's not their problem. Eating in hotels/restaurants on Christmas Day is something I've noticed that older people without big families often do. They aren't thinking, "I know, let's stop mums spending Christmas Day with their children". Don't greet them with a long face if you can help it.

Good luck and I hope it's more fun than you expect.

ilovesooty Sat 16-Nov-13 08:09:01

The day I get the opportunity to work on Christmas day I will be first in the queue volunteering.

I'm on my own and last year I travelled for a couple of hours to see my mother in
her care home, then after my visit drove home again.

There are a lot of people who have no one on Christmas day. They may have to work but have no families to come home to. Even worse they might be alone and housebound. Perhaps the OP could spare
a thought for them.

Financeprincess Sat 16-Nov-13 08:16:13

Well said, Sooty.

1974rach Sat 16-Nov-13 08:17:58

I'd go with the fakemas thing too. my oh starts a 10 day stretch at work on xmas eve. it is what it is (plus if you did xmas on the weekend either side the shopping may be less stressful!)

SirChenjin Sat 16-Nov-13 08:22:06

That is crap OP sad. I do hope that your senior bods who made this decision to open on Christmas are also taking their turns of working this new shift pattern? hmm

Can you move Christmas back to the 26th, or even have 2 (smaller?) Christmases?

ilovesooty Sat 16-Nov-13 08:23:37

Thanks Financeprincess

I think it's often forgotten that Christmas day itself can be a miserable time for the elderly, homeless, sick and lonely.

At least the OP has a loving family to go home to.

Blu Sat 16-Nov-13 08:23:38

If we are into competitive thought sparing I suggest MN cancel all threads about all problems until every person in the Philipines is newly housed and everyone in Syria safe.

Thants Sat 16-Nov-13 08:26:15

Yanbu I don't see why a lot of places need to be open. Obviously hospitals etc but food places should close!

earlgray Sat 16-Nov-13 08:31:40

Working Christmas can be fun! Just get a silly hat and find your Christmas spirit!
Everyone at work is in the same boat and the atmosphere is usually great. Your family can wait to do some presents when you return, all if the kids can wait!
You are lucky if you've not needed to work it up til now so suck it up and enjoy the extra cash!

ilovesooty Sat 16-Nov-13 08:36:35

Blu was that aimed at me by any chance? The implication that anyone pointing out that the OP could be much worse off doesn't care about overseas disaster seems pretty offensive if so.

cantheyseeme Sat 16-Nov-13 08:36:46

Food places wont close at xmas they make farrr too much money!! I work in a centre with people with mental health problems and obv they never close but you know the score when you accept the job smile It is double time though grin

Flipflopskid Sat 16-Nov-13 08:37:26

FFSI I'm not even allowed to spare a thought for anyone it would appear lest i lead you to be diverted from my true Narc intentions (?!) so sorry last poster, even though ( naturally) you too are in my thoughts I am out of here ( and yes my christmas family includes both parents with late stage alzheimers and a boyfriend with cancer.

I will be working (alone) on Boxing Day in Saudi (i work in IT for an aviation engineering company) and I am travelling back ( alone) on Christmas Day.

Now I wish I was a waitress in a jumping establishment.

My last sentiment still remains to spare a thought for ALL those working at Christmas. What is wrong ?

Thanks to all who provided decent anecdotes xx

cantheyseeme Sat 16-Nov-13 08:38:37

I think its pretty offensive to imply the OP should think herself lucky etc because other people have it harder.

ilovesooty Sat 16-Nov-13 08:39:58

Thants I don't see why food places should close. Not everyone wants to spend the day at home and cook. If they want to go out why shouldn't they?

Personally I'd like to see public transport running on Christmas day as well.

Flipflopskid Sat 16-Nov-13 08:40:12

Last poster = Sooty

ilovesooty Sat 16-Nov-13 08:42:01

Well cantheyseeme I suspect we will have to agree to differ on that one.

Thants Sat 16-Nov-13 08:43:50

Ilovesooty because it's one day of the year where nearly everyone gets a holiday. And whether your religious or not I think it's a good thing to have national holidays. You can't cook for one day?

I too am working on Boxing Day,(12hour shift) I will give you a thought on that day flipflop as I will everyone else working over the festive period, best wishes to you and your family flowers

sashh Sat 16-Nov-13 08:46:14

I've often offered to work for other colleagues to free them up for their various religious festivals and they have put themselves forward for me likewise, but apparently this would be 'unfair' and tramples on one ruling for all in the name of equal practice.

That's rubbish. I've never done an actual shift Xmas day but I have done on call. I always volunteered for on call because it isn't a big deal for me.

diddl Sat 16-Nov-13 08:46:53

Well OP I can see that if it's not an industry/workplace that usually opens over Christmas it must have come as a surprise/shock.

But as for never going to a hotel/restaurant out of respect for the people who work there-that's just daft!

ilovesooty Sat 16-Nov-13 08:47:06

Thants if I am at home I have only myself to cater for so it makes little difference to me.

If people have large extended family gathering in one place I can well understand why going out would seem easier and less stressful.

Sidge Sat 16-Nov-13 08:48:23

YANBU to be pissed off to be working, especially in an industry not normally requiring Xmas cover.

I had to tell my children their dad won't be home to have them for Xmas as planned. His ship has been diverted to the Philippines - he'll be back sometime at the end of January instead. Now that sucks.

LtEveDallas Sat 16-Nov-13 08:50:24

Oh God are we into competitive sadding now?

OP, I feel for you as working on Christmas Day does truly suck. Have a Fakemas (we did one in Nov once for DSD - it was actually lots of fun) and take a day off when everyone else is back at work (oh and maybe sneak in a couple of minature Baileys!)

Sooty, I feel for you as being on your own on Christmas Day does truly suck. I'd stay in bed, watch crappy TV and eat junk.

However, there are people out there for whom Christmas Day is far far worse than either of you. So we could all spare a thought for everyone whose Christmas will be shit...no matter what the reason.

I will remember to raise a glass to them ALL on Christmas Day and hope that next year is better.

smile

<<wants to work for the UN>>

I'm working long hours hours up to and including Christmas so Christmas Day will be really low key. It was hard the first time I did the Christmas shift as I ended up trying to do the whole Christmas Day thing in a shorter amount of time and that was just too much. Now the family get together is on Boxing Day when there is less pressure and Christmas Day itself will feature nice wine and lots of chocolate and sleep.

So I hope whichever day is your Christmas Day is blessed flipflop and that you can spend time with you poorly relative.

ilovesooty Sat 16-Nov-13 08:55:27

Thanks LtEve but I did acknowledge that. At least I have reasonable health and a roof over my head. Many don't even have that and all I'm saying is that Christmas is the worst time of the year for those who are most marginalised.

Blu Sat 16-Nov-13 08:56:37

Sooty, my post was aimed at everyone who suggests that the OP. should think themselves lucky because x,y and z have it worse.

We all know there are millions in the world who have it much worse than any of us. It doesn't mean we don't feel our own problems. There is a place for perspective, the OP has listened to people in a similar boat, calmed down and regained her festive anticipation. All kudos to her.

But really, I can't be doing with competitive thought sparing on threads, no. People with significant upsets over toxic parents being told 'if only I had a mother...' Women with deep seated issues about having a boy or a girl and wanting to talk it through being y

Blu Sat 16-Nov-13 08:58:24

Pressed send too soon, but my point is made.

I did not imply that no one cares about disasters, I implied that no one person's suffering invalidates another's .

iwantanafternoonnap Sat 16-Nov-13 09:01:57

I have worked the last 3 christmas's and will work the next 3 due to how my fixed shift pattern falls. Last year I had to pretend father christmas came twice as he knew I was working at least this year I am working a night shift so a little better than last year.

Working christmas as rubbish as it is, is actually okay and people are very nice to you. I work in A and E so it can also be very, very sad.

You'll probably have more fun than you think grin

Haggischucker Sat 16-Nov-13 09:03:24

I used to love working Christmas Day (in my youth) Worked 10 years in a row (hotels) and loved the atmosphere and buzz on the day.

Lots of people don't get the choice so I think to an extent YABU so you'll just need to suck it up and you may even make someone's day if you can fix an it issue for them!

iwantanafternoonnap Sat 16-Nov-13 09:04:41

Oh sorry missed out a page and now realise where you work. That sucks.

bakingaddict Sat 16-Nov-13 09:11:33

I don't see how not going out for a Christmas lunch or staying in a hotel actually helps anybody.

Surely in the hospitality industry working on Christmas day means you earn a lot more in salary and tips than any other time of the year meaning you have extra money to cover you through the lean month of January when everybody is well and truly spent up. So well done to the person who suggests drying up someone's income revenue. Now that really is Christmas spirit!

ilovesooty Sat 16-Nov-13 09:12:34

Point taken Blu

I certainly didn't mean to imply that people's individual circumstances aren't real to them.

I suppose my views are affected by being a bit angry personally about my own situation which I won't divert the thread to discuss here so I offer apologies for that.

Pobblewhohasnotoes Sat 16-Nov-13 09:22:28

But if you're home at 11ish then you aren't really working Xmas day.

I say this from a nurse's perspective. I worked a 12 hour shift on Christmas Day. We had our Christmas Day on Boxing day instead.

There are a lot of us that have to work Christmas Day, it sucks but it's part of the job. I'm doing new year this time.

Pobblewhohasnotoes Sat 16-Nov-13 09:24:24

Sorry OP, I see you wrote 11pm. I thought you wrote am, oops!

Blu Sat 16-Nov-13 09:25:17

I am sad for everyone who faces hard choices and difficult circumstances at Christmas, it must be excruciating when the rest of the country is in a festive frenzy. Threads like this are good, I think because they offer an alternative place for empathy between the sprout-free!

So, solidarity and empathy, great! A hierarchy of hard times, less so.

And sympathies to you, Sooty. Not easy.

ilovesooty Sat 16-Nov-13 09:28:50

Thanks Blu

The point about festive frenzy is spot on for me.

11pm Pobble.... there would only be 1 hr of christmas day left

stickysausages Sat 16-Nov-13 09:34:05

YABU. You chose to take the job, working on Xmas day is part of it. The joy will be even further from your heart though when you have to deal with miserable entitled difficult customers, who don't give a toss you're giving up your own Xmas to serve them. I speak from experience, hence leaving the 'hospitality' trade.

Jakebullet Sat 16-Nov-13 09:44:04

I feel for you OP, I always used to work Christmas Day when I was a midwife. I tried to make the best of it and sounds like you are doing the same. I do spare a thought for workers at Xmas, I no longer have to do it thankfully as I am a Carer. DS is autistic and hates change but loves all the pizzazz of Xmas.

Tubemole1 Sat 16-Nov-13 09:47:20

I empathise.

I work as a reserve member of staff for London Underground. I have had to do a late shift on Christmas Eve and and early shift on Boxing Day before. Though I always get Christmas Day off, I can't have any alcohol because of laws governing railway workers (would you trust a railway system run by drunk people?) and there are strict rules for its consumption.

Does Christmas hold any religious significance for you? If not, just hold it a different day. The sentiment is the same.

Although I am annoyed by non-Christian staff demanding they get their religious holidays off, sometimes it can be to my advantage. For instance, I will work a religious holiday for a colleague if they do the same for me, even though these festivals for me are more of a tradition than of any spiritual benefit. Is there anyone who doesn't celebrate Christmas willing to swap with you?

I've done a few Xmas days in a call centre muttering under my breath "who the fuck needs to query their mobile phone bill on xd" but I knew it was open 365d a year when I took the job

Flipflopskid Sat 16-Nov-13 09:51:46

Well said Blu!

I've opened up a big can of worms ( inadvertently) but it has ( hopefully) made us all count our blessing however great or small thay are.

i will raise a glass (mocktail of course) wear some racy underwear under my head to toe abaya on Christmas day in tribute to everyone on on here ( and buy a big box og choccies for the flight attentdants on my flight home).

And Sooty- I land at 8 pm into Heathrow on christmas night and am more than happy to share a mince pie and a sherry with you in if you are anywhere near Newport Pagnell services around 9, so you won't be on your own. I'm serious!

Merry christmas wherever you will be everybody!!! wine

Thants Sat 16-Nov-13 09:52:53

It's stupid people saying you chose to take the job. Like there's just an abundance of jobs for everyone to take their pick of! You take a job because you need to. And it is irritating that we can't have one public holiday a year! One day. That's not a big ask.

RandomMess Sat 16-Nov-13 09:53:14

My dad was a manager of a telephone exchange which then became directory enquiries - staff volunteered to work (short) shifts due to the extra pay etc. What I remember though is that he used to go and visit them on Christmas day at some point and say thank you.

I now realise probably that it wasn't the norm even back in the day!

SolomanDaisy Sat 16-Nov-13 09:57:08

My Mum used to work on Xmas day sometimes, but they split the shifts so people only had to do a few hours. We used to go up to the hospital to collect her and take mince pies etc.. It was quite fun.

SarahBumBarer Sat 16-Nov-13 09:58:32

Ilovesooty because it's one day of the year where nearly everyone gets a holiday. And whether your religious or not I think it's a good thing to have national holidays. You can't cook for one day?

Not much of a holiday if you are cooking though especially if you cook nearly every other day of the year. It's just not possible for the entire country to go on holiday.

DH will be working, through choice. I don't see the fuss, he does not see the fuss, the kids will not see the fuss. Because we're not looking for problems, it is not a problem.

ilovesooty Sat 16-Nov-13 09:59:05

Flipflop I'm in West Yorkshire but that was a very kind offer. Thank you.

pumpkinkitty Sat 16-Nov-13 10:00:35

My DH regularly has to work Christmas, he's always on at NYE and most other big occasions.

He (and therefore we as a family) do miss out a bit because of his job. However, we knew this is what it would be like when he signed up and so we have to suck it up, as do you I'm afraid!

Madratlady Sat 16-Nov-13 10:00:39

I am a nurse. I worked the last 2 Christmases. This year I'm starting maternity leave on the 22nd. I do feel bad about swanning off when my colleagues will have to work Christmas but I can't imagine I'll get another one off for a while.

PeppiNephrine Sat 16-Nov-13 10:01:47

Sounds like you probably make rather a lot of money though OP, which should ease the pain somewhat.

bubalou Sat 16-Nov-13 10:13:11

It sucks and I'm sorry but unfortunately lots of people work Xmas day.

My DM is a nurse and has worked all of or most of Xmas day for the past 8 years. She knew that would be the case when she went into that field of work.

Just make the most of the other days you have off. smile

Thants Sat 16-Nov-13 10:16:05

I didn't say you personally have to cook. Anyone can. I mean feed yourself instead if eating out. That can mean ready meals!

ilovesooty Sat 16-Nov-13 10:23:14

How many people do you know who want
to eat ready meals on Christmas day? It seems quite comprehensible to me that they might want to be cooked for. If the demand were not there places wouldn't be fully booked even at the inflated prices charged. Incidentally these inflated prices aren't the norm everywhere. Also in some European cities you will find many shops and most restaurants open on Christmas day and not charging massively inflated rates.

I've worked several Christmas Day's in the past and actually quite enjoyed it. Obviously I was young free and single at the time, but working at riding schools and stud farms meant that people had to work - the horses need feeding, mucking out, grooming and turning out 365 days a year.

At the time I'd have been more than happy to volunteer to work so that people with young kids could have the day off, but company policy was that everyone had to show up for work unless Christmas Day fell on your designated day off.

Pobblewhohasnotoes Sat 16-Nov-13 10:24:28

11pm Pobble.... there would only be 1 hr of christmas day left

Yes, I corrected my mistake below my post if you look.

greenfolder Sat 16-Nov-13 10:34:05

yanbu- there are lots of jobs of course that involve 24 hr cover so christmas has to be worked.

i would be beyond fucked off is someone suddenly decided that the world would stop if i didnt do my boring insurance job on xmas day. its the thin end of the wedge.

flatmum Sat 16-Nov-13 10:35:03

flipflop have you got kids? I work in IT in finance in the UK and over here it generally works out that anyone that wants to celebrate christmas with their kids can - every bank I have worked at there have generally been some people of a religion who don't celebrate Xmas or people without kids or who werent doing much anyway (no family nearby) who have volunteered to cover xmas Day - and this is reciprocated by the people with kids for other religious festivals etc. Seems to work ok and I think your company are being a bit unreasonable - but then I guess it is easier here as the 25th in a bank holiday and I suppose not in Saudi?

I usually work xmas eve, have Xmas day off and then am on call boxing day from home - could you not fly back the day before and then work remotely xmas day so you could at least be at home? I think your company are being very unfair if you have plenty of colleagues who dont celebrate xmas day and for whom the 25th is a normal working day - sounds political to me!

SarahBumBarer Sat 16-Nov-13 10:40:44

There's a little owner managed run greasy spoon near us. They open on Xmas day. Last year it was £10.95 a head for a three course Christmas lunch on Christmas Day. I suspect it was not great food but it was booked out and I understand a great atmosphere for a lot of people (quite lot elderly) who might otherwise have had a bit of a grey Christmas. Lots of people want to work.

Ready meals? grin Really? I bet in the whole rest of my life I never hear anyone in RL make that suggestion!

ilovesooty Sat 16-Nov-13 10:44:10

Sarah that sounds great. If that were near me I'd book in like a shot.

complexnumber Sat 16-Nov-13 10:50:47

My DSis works in the NHS, she and her colleagues always try to accommodate non-Christian workers religious holidays during the year.

So she was quite miffed when these same workers all seemed to want Christmas off as well. Surely they should have stepped aside for the other workers to whom Christmas is more significant, especially if they have family with young children.

I used to like working over Christmas (catering). People wanted the shifts. I really wouldn't worry too much about the poor staff, basically.

0utnumbered Sat 16-Nov-13 11:00:07

My partner is a nightclub manager and whilst he won't be working christmas day he will be working christmas eve until early hours of the morning and back on boxing day. The whole of december when we should be doing things with our two little boys will be spent hyping up the stupid club.

I understand how you feel OP. I am a student nurse so I get that I will be working Christmas at some point (although I will do my best to swap with someone else who doesn't have kids and wants to go out for new year or something - I used to do this when I worked on a 24 hospital ward in reception with staff who had kids before I had mine!). The point is, I understand that nurses need to work 24/7, people don't stop getting ill because it is Christmas and I have chosen this career to the extent I will be studying 3 years (4.5 years in total if I become a midwife at the end). People do not need to go clubbing!! there are so many weekends, bank holidays and less family orientated occasions like halloween throughout the year that can be for nights out as well as new years eve straight afterwards, I really really don't understand why clubs can't just close for that week and get everyone hyped up for new year! Stupid money making crap!!! Sorry to hijack thread with a rant but companies do need to look at whether the world will stop turning if people aren't working or whether they can allow families some precious time they will never get back.

Weegiemum Sat 16-Nov-13 11:00:23

My dh works Christmas/New Year on a rolling schedule, he's a GP and part of the rural on call rota in his area - goes with the job.

He last worked Christmas 3 years ago, new year 2 years ago, he'll do Christmas next year. Sadly, last time he did Christmas he had a terminal patient he and his colleagues were providing hospice at home care for. He died late on Christmas Day. Now that's a crappy Christmas. Me and dc didn't see much of dh that day - he spent a lot of time out, setting up morphine pumps, contacting nurses, explaining things to the family etc.

But really, he was able to help this man to a pain free, peaceful death - one family member took dh aside and said thank-you for the "Christmas Present" of the care he'd given. As dh was sitting seeing how pain relief etc went, he was also able to send the district nurse home to her family.

He was off on the 27th so we saved the big dinner etc for then.

I'm not trying to big up my dh. He does this sort of thing a lot, it's just his job.

I don't spare a thought for those who have to work Christmas. I spare a thought for the people who genuinely need the people who have to work Christmas.

expatinscotland Sat 16-Nov-13 11:03:04

It's one day, hardly the end of the fucking world. YABU.

Flipflopskid Sat 16-Nov-13 11:17:50

Yes I am aren't I.
Fuck the fact that I won't get to be on the photos and share the last Christmas of my darling sisters life. What a twat I'm being.

And yes. The money will make it a lot easier......

Laughable.

But a big thanks to all who actually read the thread and understood that the day can mean so much more than a fucking turkey and a bit of tinsel .

Handbagsonnhold Sat 16-Nov-13 11:21:04

I've worked a few Christmas days....you'd thing people going on their holiday on Christmas Day would be full of good cheer alas no. I sympathise op ⛄

expatinscotland Sat 16-Nov-13 11:22:07

Then find a workaround. Ring in.

PeppiNephrine Sat 16-Nov-13 11:23:16

Look its your choice, stop acting the victim. If it really means that much to you to be at home for christmas, tell work you can't do it. REsign if you have to.
Or you could just spend lots of other days with your sister. We all make our own choices. You're not slogging in some minimum wage pit all over christmas, its really not the end of the world. If you hate the idea so much, do something about it.

DialsMavis Sat 16-Nov-13 11:31:39

I work in a pub and we don't get double time on Christmas Day. I'm only working for a few hours and DO will bring DC and IL's in for a few drinks. In lieu of the double time (tight bastards), I will plan to totally flout the 'no drinks from customers' rule and explain to the whole pub that we are all there for £6.33 an hour (a pint in the pub is just shy of £5 btw) if my boss pulls me up on it! wink

poorbuthappy Sat 16-Nov-13 11:33:19

Drip drip.

expatinscotland Sat 16-Nov-13 11:34:27

We booked and stayed in a hotel over Xmas a couple of years ago. Ate in restaurants, too. What twats, to not cook ourselves. DD1 was in a cancer unit far from home. She died a few months later.

I'm glad those who worked that day weren't so full of hate at having to be there, OP.

The joy is truly gone from what is left of my heart.

DH worked the 4 Xmases before in a hotel for min wage. It's part of the job. Never thought of considering the customers a bunch of twats, most were elderly and might otherwise have spent Xmas alone.

3littlefrogs Sat 16-Nov-13 11:39:25

As a nurse I have spent years working all sorts of holidays, including Christmas and New year. It is just what we do. We live in a 24/7 society now.

IME many people who work bank holidays are glad of the extra money they earn. Most people can't afford to be fussy about the shifts they work these days.

We always used to celebrate our Christmas day early or late if one or both of us was working.

I think YABU op - you are not the only person having to work Christmas day.

Purple2012 Sat 16-Nov-13 11:40:43

Its one Christmas. Out of the last 20 Christmas days I have had 3 of them off. I have to work this year even though the rules changed and it shouldn't be my turn. I've never had a Christmas just me and my dh.

diddl Sat 16-Nov-13 11:43:35

"Fuck the fact that I won't get to be on the photos and share the last Christmas of my darling sisters life. What a twat I'm being."

Well that's a whole different thread-surely someone will do CD for you?

ErrorError Sat 16-Nov-13 11:45:45

I can take or leave the actual day personally. I opted to work Christmas at my old job because I was only one of two in the office who didn't have kids, so I thought it was more important for them to share the experience. Not that my family means less to me, but they understood, so it wasn't a huge sacrifice. It's about how you feel though, and the symbolism of the day if it's important to you, so I'm sure there'll be a way to work around this, especially if you explained your family circumstances.

My DM was a nurse and often had to work Christmas Day, she didn't gripe about it because it's the nature of the job, and I think she was more concerned about making it special for the patients who would have probably rather been elsewhere as well. Her family worked around her and celebrated on her next day off with the works. Was funny though when they all sat waiting round the TV for the Queen's speech that never happened!

Flipflopskid Sat 16-Nov-13 12:01:55

Thank everybody for some great insight, experiences and for putting things into perspective!

I just love MNers for the chucking about of ideas and answers,thoughts and solutions.

And yes IABFU!

I will think of everybody, working or not this Christmas and raise a glass to you all wherever you may be

wine

Cheers Guys!

SirChenjin Sat 16-Nov-13 12:06:48

OP - you are NBU! If it upsets you to be working Christmas, esp. in an job that (and this is key) presumably didn't include Christmas working when you accepted the role, then it doesn't actually matter whether anyone else works it/has family who do/likes Christmas - you are perfectly within your rights to be pissed off! smile

Ledkr Sat 16-Nov-13 12:15:12

I was on d out down to work Xmas day and Boxing Day. I was a single mum of a two and ten yr old!
I explained my dilemma and offered to do every other shift but just not Xmas day as no childcare. Boss said I had to.
Whilst pondering going off sick I actually became ill with a uti and ended up in hospital until Xmas eve where I hobbled around sainsbos with my dad and bought food and out Xmas on for my kids.
I like to think it was divine intervention.
They were really horrible to me at work when I returned.
As if you could fake that type of illness!

kelly21 Sat 16-Nov-13 12:15:38

you work all your life the least we deserve is to enjoy time with your family you only have ine life if i was made to work christmas day i woud leave my job some people might not agree but am not missing out on my childrens short childhoods

ilovesooty Sat 16-Nov-13 12:30:38

Flipflop I'm sorry your sister is so ill. I hope you work something out.

kelly21 it's ok if you can afford to be so cavalier about your job.

PuppyMonkey Sat 16-Nov-13 12:31:24

I will raise a glass to all of you working at Christmas - I'm lucky because I definitely won't be, having been made redundant from December 6. sad

Financeprincess Sat 16-Nov-13 12:34:44

OP, whilst I don't know all the facts it appears that you work for a Saudi-based business. People who choose to do those jobs often do so because of the tax advantages - this may not be true in your case, but at the very least you must have known that Saudi Arabia is not a Christian country and hence won't have public holidays on Christmas Day? Seems to me that you knew the score when you took the job, so YABU in my opinion.

SirChenjin Sat 16-Nov-13 13:01:35

When she took the job they weren't required to work Christmas - this is a new thing that the corporate bods are trialling

SirChenjin Sat 16-Nov-13 13:05:31

Oh - and she offered to work other religious festivals to let those who celebrate them have the day off, while people have offered to do the same for her. But no, not acceptable apparently hmm

colleysmill Sat 16-Nov-13 13:16:37

Our local corner shop opens on Christmas morning and the family's grown up son always does the shift.

One year I said I was sorry he had to when he laughed and said it was the best shift of the year. He opens up a bottle of sherry, offers the customers (who often are on their own and don't actually want anything) a complementary drink, he has a chat with all of them and then because he's been "working" he is exempt from all washing up duties and his mother waits on him hand and foot!

I had to laugh smile

Squidwardtenticles Sat 16-Nov-13 13:20:17

I have to work christmas eve which annoys me. We're not allowed to book any time off at christmas at all.

Babyroobs Sat 16-Nov-13 13:22:28

I'm working nightshift on Christmas day and again on Boxing day, so you have my sympathy, it's just the way it is with some jobs unfortunately.

NearTheWindmill Sat 16-Nov-13 13:29:41

My DS was born on Christmas day. Should I have delivered a pre-term baby myself at home then; indeed a pre-term baby who would have died during labour if the emergency team of about 11 hadn't poured into the room as the emergency button was hit to get him out when he stopped breathing and the resuscitated him. hmm

Darkesteyes Sat 16-Nov-13 14:24:19

DialsMavis thats really shit about the wage on Xmas Day Im willing to bet a lot of employers are trying to get away with this in this climate.
I bet there are even people on workfare somewhere who will have to go in on Xmas Day

Darkesteyes Sat 16-Nov-13 14:26:10

colleysmillSat 16-Nov-13 13:16:37

Our local corner shop opens on Christmas morning and the family's grown up son always does the shift.

One year I said I was sorry he had to when he laughed and said it was the best shift of the year. He opens up a bottle of sherry, offers the customers (who often are on their own and don't actually want anything) a complementary drink, he has a chat with all of them and then because he's been "working" he is exempt from all washing up duties and his mother waits on him hand and foot

Wonder if the same thing would happen if he was female The waiting on him hand and foot bit.

Christmas Day and New Year's Day here, working from 7 in morning till 8 T night, and I have 3 kids which includes a 7 month old baby. Not happy at all.

Darkesteyes Sat 16-Nov-13 14:32:03

Remembered this from another thread i was on. Looks like there will be ppl on workfare on Xmas Day.

UptheairymountainWed 13-Nov-13 06:56:38

Ref Darkesteyes' comment about workfare - there was a recruitment event yesterday for young people, held by a pub near me in Liverpool, to recruit bar staff (with other duties such as cleaning toilets etc). It would be 8 weeks training for JSA only and then they'd decide if you got a job. So basically free staff for Christmas and New year with no job at the end of it .

I've contacted the local paper and I hope they name and shame the pub but how many other businesses are doing the same?

EvaBeaversProtege Sat 16-Nov-13 16:23:47

Weegie your story made me cry.

Ledkr Sun 17-Nov-13 08:44:59

windmill that's hardly a fair point to make is it?
The op isn't a midwife or obstetrician or paediatrician.
People who hate working at Xmas still do, even if they do hate it.

grumpyoldbat Sun 17-Nov-13 09:08:24

I think yabu, it's just a day. Choose another day to celebrate.

I'll admit I'm off Christmas Day this year although in my defence it's just worked out as my rostered day off. My only day off in 21 days. The other days will consist of 4x 730am til 8pm, then alternating days of 9-5 and 2-10. I will get shouted at, sworn at and possibly assaulted. Occasionally people even threaten our families. We all just have to accept it as that's life and it's the job. Although no double time on NYD it's much preferable to unemployment and workfare.

SootikinAndSweep Sun 17-Nov-13 09:20:54

I'm confused, are you flying to Saudi or from Saudi on Christmas Day?

Joysmum Sun 17-Nov-13 09:27:28

I love going out to dinner on Christmas Day and we always do.

A Christmas meal requires so much more shopping, cooking and clearing up after and doing MORE work on Christmas Day does not much of a holiday to me!

Its so nice not to have to battle the shops in the last few days before Christmas to get the fresh stuff only to find the shops haven't got it so you have to go to another. It's nice not to have the extra washing up, not think of the extras like crackers and table decs etc.

In the past I've taken advantage if being able to work Christmas for more money and time off too which I appreciated more at that time.

Having said all of that, my fav day over the festive period is when the my whole family descends on our house for the day (usually day after Boxing Day). I do a buffet and hot roast spuds and cold meat and we play family games. Much better than Christmas Day. We aren't religious but our daughter appreciates Christmas Day on Christmas Day and apart from her present opening of the delivery from Santa, I think all of us prefer the family party day.

NCISaddict Sun 17-Nov-13 09:50:03

Working Christmas day for the ambulance service is strange, virtually all 12 hour shifts and the way the rota works most people who work Christmas also end up working New Year too.
Also there tends to be a strange mix between very serious incidents (cardiac arrests are quite common) and people calling 999 because they're lonely. We jump from full on trying to save lives to making cups of tea and chatting to elderly people who are on their own. It's a strange day, often very sad but occasionally uplifting.

On the plus side, you do get to eat loads of beige Iceland type food.

Bubbles1066 Sun 17-Nov-13 13:56:46

I've had to work Christmas Eve, Day and Boxing Day before and New Year's Day too (not the same year for New Years though). You have my sympathy.

LaGuardia Sun 17-Nov-13 14:42:03

I am working Christmas Day , New Year's Eve and New Year's Day. I imagine if you were unfortunate enough to need medical help over the holidays you would expect me and my colleagues to help you? Obviously the triple rate pay the NHS will be paying me will help greatly grin

scottishmummy Sun 17-Nov-13 14:45:01

Service industry such as restaurants respond to demand,if they've got booking they open
Yes we've gone out Xmas day and no I don't feel sorry for staff having to work it
Why should I?

Ubik1 Sun 17-Nov-13 14:52:37

Op it truly sucks

PMSL at triple pay grin

I'll be on the OOH phones - 2x nightshift 21/22/23 then try to be all nice and no -grumpy with the kids once I get up on xmas eve at around 2pm, and then in for more fun Xmas day 4-11.30pm and Boxing Day 4-11.30pm

We also get folk with chest pain, people with chronic illness that has worsened, people lonely/depressed and people who stubbed their toe last wednesday.

But we have the big cash prizes, sausage rolls and tins of Celebrations to look forward too!

scottishmummy Sun 17-Nov-13 14:52:40

Op you're in Saudi Xmas day is a statutory holiday there it's a regular day
You're not in U.K. Being compelled to work public holiday
I do hope you have a great time with your loved ones when you finally get here

Ubik1 Sun 17-Nov-13 14:55:11

if i was made to work christmas day i woud leave my job some people might not agree but am not missing out on my childrens short childhoods

Oh FGS grow up

scottishmummy Sun 17-Nov-13 14:57:51

Thankfully,the service sector,public sector,aren't so melodramatic about working xmas

TheCrackFox Sun 17-Nov-13 15:06:04

It is pretty shit working Christmas day and I have done plenty (and Hogmany and New Years day too).

Utterly laughable that there is extra pay - you just get an extra day off in mid February. Whoop de fucking woo. And the tips tend to be worse because customers are so over charged for their Christmas dinner.

Anyway, I changed sectors because I was sick to death of working every Saturday night, bank holiday etc and missing out on all the fun.

scottishmummy Sun 17-Nov-13 15:08:51

I've worked Xmas etc I like the camaraderie,and just the way it is
Certain jobs eg public sector,service sector you'll be asked,goes with job

grumpyoldbat Sun 17-Nov-13 15:13:09

What's it like to be able to just quit a job because you don't like the shifts? I hate my job every day but I can't meet my responsibilities if I quit, so I stay.

TheCrackFox Sun 17-Nov-13 15:14:26

Public sector = worthwhile job that has a point to it.
Service sector = watching people get pissed and essentially pointless.

I worked in the service sector and after working 10 Christmases in a row I decided to retrain.

God it makes me so angry that people don't think about this when booking their flight

Aren't you flying on Christmas day yourself OP? confused

grumpyoldbat Sun 17-Nov-13 15:21:08

Surely if you work in the service industry you're always watching people have fun while you're working.

chibi Sun 17-Nov-13 15:32:43

can you not have xmas on a different day? why must it be on the 25?

expatinscotland Sun 17-Nov-13 15:41:39

In N. America, Boxing Day isn't a holiday. You're expected to go to work even in office jobs. So if you live far from family, that means Xmas with friends, volunteering, a ski or snowshoe in winter climes if you can't get the day off.

Meh. DH has worked Xmas and Boxing Day loads, so have I. For no extra pay. In min. wage jobs. When you need the money, you need the job.

And plenty of people patronise restaurants, stay in hotels, fly on Xmas to be with ill relatives, because they cannot get off work any sooner, business, etc.

Procrastinating Sun 17-Nov-13 15:48:55

Not all people working Christmas day are miserable about it, I used to work Christmas day every year. I was a silver service waitress in a hotel, the tips were huge and the customers were happy.

katese11 Sun 17-Nov-13 18:42:09

I'm not sure why people are being so mean to the OP. Yes, people who work in certain industries have to work over Christmas - my mother was a care assistant and worked every Christmas day -as kids we used to go in at lunchtime and help out (child labour laws were much laxer then ;) ) It made such a difference to the old people and we all felt like we'd done something nice. But if you take a job in IT not expecting to have to work Christmas day I can understand why you wouldn't have that same glow. ..! Whose Christmas are you making better by working?

ChristmasCareeristBitchNigel Sun 17-Nov-13 18:48:04

YABU. You should not have one into an industry where working at Christmas is expected if you're moaning.

To put it into perspective for you, this is my first Christmas off in 17 years (apart from the year whe I was on maternity leave)

susiedaisy Sun 17-Nov-13 18:48:47

I'm working on Xmas day and New Year's Eve. Doesn't bother me. Next year I won't be. But I work in a hospital so it's to be expected that you work something over Xmas and new year.

katese11 Sun 17-Nov-13 18:55:04

Oh and ministry I hear you boxing day sales (and can guess your retailer. ..) When I worked on Oxford St we closed on Boxing Day but the 27th was the busiest day of the year. It was pretty annoying having to leave my parents' house and drove back to London knowing I had to deal with the week from hell!

CustardOmlet Sun 17-Nov-13 18:58:38

One of my parents always worked Xmas day, and iv worked most of the last 7 xmas's. We always have dinner on Boxing Day instead.

FortyDoorsToNowhere Sun 17-Nov-13 18:59:14

I am working this Christmas and I am looking forward to it.

I am only working till 2:30, the patients don't ask to be in hospital and I will try my hardest to make the day for them.

It's lovely as visiting rules are relaxed and there is a steady stream of relatives and the wards for once is a happy atmosphere.

Next year I am also working, but after that I will be off for a good few years.

Flipflopskid Sun 17-Nov-13 19:24:21

I suggest that I'm being flamed for believing there is much more to life than money being made for the big cats of this world;where profit is King and the welfare of the populace on this one day of the year amounts to zero.

3littlefrogs Sun 17-Nov-13 19:31:50

Ledkr sad

I had a late miscarriage just before Christmas (years ago).

I had to stay in hospital then have a ERCP.

When I got back to work my boss had a real go at me in front of all the staff for "letting everyone down by going off sick over Christmas".

I was a midwife working on labour ward.

Ledkr Sun 17-Nov-13 19:36:21

3littlefrogs how horrible, did you report her?
Mine was public sector too, they think they own us!
I worked Xmas for years previously but did feel that 3 months after my husband left us would be an exception.
Kids would have been on their own I had literally NO childcare as family were away and dh was shacked up with a young girl.
I'm 9-5 now, much better.

3littlefrogs Sun 17-Nov-13 19:39:48

No point in reporting her - it wouldn't have got me anywhere.

I left. I went and did something else. Their loss.

Flipflopskid Sun 17-Nov-13 19:45:18

3little my heart goes out to you.

Flipflopskid Sun 17-Nov-13 19:47:06

thanks

Ledkr Sun 17-Nov-13 19:49:30

Nasty cow.
Yes I left too. When I asked her to change it she told me it was personal and "you are doing it!"
Some people are truly ridiculous.

AngiBolen Sun 17-Nov-13 19:51:50

can you not have xmas on a different day? why must it be on the 25?

Eh? Because Father Chrismas delivers on the 24th.

confused

noseymcposey Sun 17-Nov-13 19:52:58

This thread is so miserable. Of course YANBU to be fucked off about now having to work Christmas if it's something you weren't expecting.

In my industry we don't work Christmas and I'd be v v pissed off if they changed. I'm annoyed enough that we now have to work bank holidays (which is totally pointless anyway, and is always dead).

Yes some industries do, but I don't want to work in those industries!

Bearing in mind you family situation is it worth at least talking to your employers?

morethanpotatoprints Sun 17-Nov-13 20:02:40

Yes, some industries are expected to work over Christmas and a lot of these people make a huge difference to the lives of the people they work are serving/helping.

The OP works in IT, whose life will she be making a difference to by working. It isn't well known for unsociable hours and public holidays.

How would some of you like to be told that for no reason really you had to work, you'd cause an up roar.

OP, is this legal in your workplace. Do many others have to work as well?
I would talk to them/refuse to do it, maybe, depending on what your contract says.

Chunderella Sun 17-Nov-13 20:36:49

Yanbu to be fed up. It fucking blows to work Christmas when you don't want to, even in a job where you knew it would happen and it's a necessary evil. Neither of those things are true in OPs case. Also, it's always a shitter when your contract is changed for the worse, without your approval. OP is quite logical to feel fed up and need a bit of a rant, and all the whataboutery is cuntish.

Chunderella Sun 17-Nov-13 20:39:06

Also sending out particular sympathy to people whose colleagues would be glad to cover Christmas for them in return for Eid or whatever but who aren't being allowed to. Equality means everyone missing out on important holidays!

Flipflopskid Sun 17-Nov-13 20:42:04

Here herechunder

World gone mad.

morethanpotatoprints Sun 17-Nov-13 20:50:26

Chunderella

whataboutery grin

Ubik1 Sun 17-Nov-13 21:35:39

It's shit even if your job requires it. Sympathy, op.

ChristmasCareeristBitchNigel Sun 17-Nov-13 23:28:50

Am I missing something ? You live/work in Saudi and you expect them to shut up shop for a Christian festival ??

I've worked most Christmases before kids. Mainly because I worked with colleagues with children and it seemed fair and also because I work in homelessness and my massive, out of control Christmassiness works well when people are alone, unhappy and don't have anyone.

I used to love spreading a bit of cheer when people were really miserable. To my detriment, sometimes. I once worked in a youth homeless shelter where all the residents were supposed to be out for the day. I ended up cooking turkey for 14.

However, OP, you don't work with homeless kids, you don't deliver babies. Why the bollocks would you think, "yippee, I want to work Christmas". You have my permission to be hacked off.

LessMissAbs Mon 18-Nov-13 06:39:02

As a student, I worked several Christmasses in those restaurants you dont think should open. It was always a pretty popular gig, due to high wages, tips and getting to take home food.

Perhaps you should work in the UK, where you an benefit from labour laws and customs that might suit you more?

Lighthousekeeping Mon 18-Nov-13 06:46:57

I will be working it but won't be next year. It's just life.

Chunderella Mon 18-Nov-13 07:41:49

I would imagine she expected to be able to take the day off because that had previously been the arrangement Nigel. A Muslim living in the UK whose employers had previously allowed him to take annual leave for Eid but now withdrew that offer would be similarly entitled to feel fed up- it's the moving of the goalposts.

Pollydon Mon 18-Nov-13 07:57:11

Ive done Xmas day half shift twice, before dc & once night shift Xmas night when dc were 6 &10.
Day was ok ( I volunteered ) night was awful.
Luckily passed exams & moved in to current career, but have huge respect for those working over Xmas.

CaptainHammer Mon 18-Nov-13 11:48:37

I've worked every christmas/new year for the last 6 years, with the job I do it's expected.
You get used to it and enjoy fakemas instead, which is sometimes better as I draaaag it out!

intitgrand Mon 18-Nov-13 12:03:55

'In the past I have always shunned the idea of Christmas in a hotel, Christmas lunch in a restaurant etc. out of respect for the poor buggers who would have to work it; like their families don't matter at all ....'
often people (especially the elderly)choose to go to a hotel at Christmas because otherwise they would be spending xmas alone

Debs75 Mon 18-Nov-13 12:30:37

DSIS worked Christmas the other year. She didn't like it as I'm sure most people wouldn't. The care home she works in has a decent Christmas policy though. If Christmas falls on a day you normally work then you work. There is no swapping of shifts so you can miss Christmas but you do end up doing Christmas day and New Years day.
Because of her part time hours (like all the staff) She won't do Christmas for another 2 years but she will then do Christmas and New Year for 2 straight years.

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