ear piercing.. what age?

(265 Posts)
ditsydoll Thu 14-Nov-13 13:34:26

Just wondering what age you would deem suitable for your dds to have their ears pierced?

moogalicious Thu 14-Nov-13 13:36:55

When they are able to look after them themselves. DD1 was fine age 6. Dd2, not a chance.

Bowing out of this thread now, as it will get heated.

littlewhitebag Thu 14-Nov-13 13:37:12

I had to wait until i was 16 but i let mine get theirs done when they were 8.

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MyPrettyToes Thu 14-Nov-13 13:37:56

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kinkyfuckery Thu 14-Nov-13 13:38:09

I got mine done for my 10th birthday. I was old enough to understand the logistics of it, and deal with the cleaning/removing earrings when necessary.

I think as long as the child is able to do that, then it's an acceptable age.

Slavetominidictator Thu 14-Nov-13 13:38:20

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squeakytoy Thu 14-Nov-13 13:38:46

I had mine done in the summer holidays before I started high school as did most of my friends. Same for my stepdaughters.

CockyMcChicken Thu 14-Nov-13 13:38:49

I took my dd for her ninth birthday. She asked me to get them done and I felt she was old enough to take care of them properly.

RedWineAndCheese Thu 14-Nov-13 13:39:28

10/11 ish. Not before 10, unless they were 10 at the end of the summer/early autumn or something and you wanted to get them done at the start of the holidays.

On very little girls I think it looks a bit tacky.

I have never had mine done but I guess once they are old enough to know how it's done and can look after them correctly. I'd probably say about 10/11.

Holdthepage Thu 14-Nov-13 13:39:51

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EdithWeston Thu 14-Nov-13 13:40:12

At the start of the summer holidays between primary and secondary. Or perhaps a couple of weeks before that so she can show them off just before she leaves.

Sparklymommy Thu 14-Nov-13 13:40:46

My dd1 had hers done at 8. A treat for working hard at something.

Dd2 had hers done at 3. Her choice, but I was keen to get it over with as dd1 has always had a lot of trouble with having to take them out for dance/sport etc and then having a paddy because she's lost them/can't get them back in!

Dd2 hasn't ever had any trouble with hers. Dd1s have become infected and sore at times.

I had mine done at 3. Rarely wear earrings now but can if I want.

harticus Thu 14-Nov-13 13:41:06

16

5madthings Thu 14-Nov-13 13:41:14

The summer between primary and high school so 11 yes old.

ARF at waiting til 16 by then I had two holes in the bottom of each ear, one in the top of my ear and my nose pierced.

bluebell8782 Thu 14-Nov-13 13:41:27

I was 6 and had no problems looking after my piercings.

bigTillyMint Thu 14-Nov-13 13:41:55

DD had them done for her 11th birthday, at the start of the school holidays before secodary school.
She had second piercings done in the ear lobes last Christmas IIRC, aged 13.
She now wants a cartilage piercing in one ear for Christmas.

DH thinks she will be a sieve before long!

DameDeepRedBetty Thu 14-Nov-13 13:43:50

Mine (and a whole bunch of their friends) formed a (fairly) orderly queue at the only salon in the town that does it on the first morning of the summer holidays when they were 13.

Judgey pants were hoicked at any family who allowed ear piercing at primary school or younger.

Agree no point in doing it until child is old enough to make an informed choice about it and understand how to care for the new piercing him or herself.

littlewhitebag Thu 14-Nov-13 13:45:20

I think waiting until 16 is a little over the top even though i had to wait until then My DD were told they could have their ears pierced age 8 as long as they looked after then properly. Then a second set of piercing at 14 if they wanted. Any other piercings/tattoos they had to wait till they could consent to them themselves.

ditsydoll Thu 14-Nov-13 13:47:00

I thought around 11/12 myself. My Dd is only 4 so wasn't asking for myself! My niece is not impressed because she's apparently the only one in the year without her ears pierced (she's 9) and her mum asked my opinion. She's quite sensible but I think waiting maybe until the next school holidays is a good idea.

Weegiemum Thu 14-Nov-13 13:48:03

Dd1 was 10 - start of summer hols, she'd turned 10 in feb.

Dd2 was 9 - it was about 8 weeks ago, she's 10 in a fortnight. My brother was getting married, she wanted pretty earrings so (as it's the "last" family wedding before their generation) we got it done and she's been great with it.

Dd1 is 13 and got a second row in time for the wedding. I'm am now officially The Coolest Mum Ever (TM).

Enb76 Thu 14-Nov-13 13:50:15

16 for me as well but it's a cultural and social thing. For me, earrings are for adults.

Willemdefoeismine Thu 14-Nov-13 13:50:35

I have promised DD she can have them done at 11 although she is piling on the pressure at 8 years of age hmm. I think that's soon enough. I didn't get mine done until I was 21!

Merrylegs Thu 14-Nov-13 13:50:50

The afternoon you break up from year 6. ie first day of summer hols before starting high school. Is a rite of passage innit? Plus gives the ears long enough to heal before they have to take them out for PE in the first term.

LaRegina Thu 14-Nov-13 13:51:32

DD wanted hers done at 6 - I said absolutely not, despite having mine done at that age (she doesn't know that and hasn't thought to ask how old I was yet!).

However, a few months later a friend of hers developed an infection where she had had her ear's pierced on one side which was horrible and painful for her. That seems to have put DD off as she's not mentioned it since!

Pobblewhohasnotoes Thu 14-Nov-13 13:54:51

When they're old enough to look after them themselves. I wasn't allowed mine done until I was 16.

I hate seeing babies with earrings.

shallweshop Thu 14-Nov-13 13:58:17

I have told my 9 year old DD that she can have them done in the summer holidays between leaving juniors and starting secondary school.

luxemburgerli Thu 14-Nov-13 13:59:02

I don't personally like earrings on young kids (I'd probably say 10 or 11 would be my preference), but just wanted to ask what exactly "looking after earrings" entails.

I got mine done when I was 12, in the UK, and the lady who pierced them said to turn them 1/2 a turn once a day and otherwise not touch them for at least 3 months.

Worked fine for me, never any infections or problems.

mrsyattering Thu 14-Nov-13 14:01:43

13, that's how old I was when I was allowed mine done. DD 6 knows that it hurts and has decided she'd rather not smile

Theodorous Thu 14-Nov-13 14:03:02

Deep joy, another of these. Next there will be a fanny hair removal one. Such fun

Hawkmoth Thu 14-Nov-13 14:04:37

I said 14 to a little girl once who was coveting my earrings. I thought her dad was going to disembowel me.

LaRegina Thu 14-Nov-13 14:05:33

Deep joy, another of these. Next there will be a fanny hair removal one. Such fun

confused

Tiredemma Thu 14-Nov-13 14:05:40

16

lljkk Thu 14-Nov-13 14:08:52

It's a hassle with school PE & swim lessons, so plan around that. DD was 9 & I have no regrets.

Littlebigcat Thu 14-Nov-13 14:20:16

I was 9 and was the last girl in my year I think. I had to learn my times tables first.

spindlyspindler Thu 14-Nov-13 14:26:14

My mum had mine done when I was three, which is brilliant because they've never closed up no matter how long I leave them. I don't mind that my mother had mine done for me as I'm sure I'd never have had the bottle to go through with it once I was older (am an astonishing coward about pain) but as I have quite strong views about body ownership I would prefer to wait until it was asked for. If you can't take the pain, you don't want it badly enough to have it, I say smile

I kept telling my DD 14 and every time she pushed to get them done younger I told her another year older.
But she had them done in the summer before starting high school which was always my plan.
She was made up as it was so much earlier than I had said.

dizzy101 Thu 14-Nov-13 14:40:22

Dd1 had 1st at 3, 2nd at 9 and top ear done at 13. Never had any problems with any piercing.

Joysmum Thu 14-Nov-13 14:47:54

Get them done a babies and don't forget to put the baby in a headband with a bow on it!

Seriously though, I think the biggest issue is in tying in with the summer holidays and ensuring you are complying with school policies. If it's a younger child you need to ensure you will supervise cleaning as directed. If you can't then wait until the child is trusted to do this consistently and correctly themself.

PinkFairyArmadillo Thu 14-Nov-13 14:51:48

However old they need to be to cope with having them done properly and not at Claire's or a jewellers or anywhere else that uses a gun.

KellyElly Thu 14-Nov-13 15:03:20

I will let DD have hers done in the summer holidays before she starts secondary school.

lilola Thu 14-Nov-13 15:10:54

reading this thread made me suddenly think 'how WEIRD' it is that we punch mental spikes through our ear lobes. I have 4 in each lobe and 4 other body piercings but it just occurred to me that the concept is bizarre! Imagine trying to explain it to an alien that had just landed grin

anyway, I had mine done at 11, another set done at 14 and then pierced the rest of my lobes with an earring at 16 or 17. Surprisingly effective.

I wasn't allowed anything else so I had to wait til I was old enough to consent to tongue etc myself

IAlwaysThought Thu 14-Nov-13 15:12:30

I let my DDs get their ears pierced when their periods started confused Not for any great symbolic reasoning but more because it worked out like that.
It gave them something to look forward to.

jacks365 Thu 14-Nov-13 15:20:36

I'd say about 10/11. Mine all take part in sports and I did agree to one having hers done slightly earlier at 9 but only because she had broken her arm so it meant sports were stopped at that point so it was just for practical reasons.

At least a week.

<runs>

MrsBungleScare Thu 14-Nov-13 15:25:11

I agree with the summer hols before secondary school.

thegreylady Thu 14-Nov-13 15:27:17

i never 'let' my dd and when she and a friend did it for each other at about 14 I read such a riot act about infection etc that they let them heal up. Dd is 39 now and has never had them done. I think I over reacted though and now would say yes at about 13.

Lilacroses Thu 14-Nov-13 15:29:30

Dd had hers done aged 9 I think. Around here that is quite early. She was absolutely fine with them. Now, aged 10/11 alot of her friends have them pierced as well.

MostWicked Thu 14-Nov-13 15:29:59

Another vote for the summer holidays before secondary school.
Pierced ears on babies and young children is vile.

Start of senior school.

Lilacroses Thu 14-Nov-13 15:33:00

I don't see it like that at all LaRegina!

hellymelly Thu 14-Nov-13 15:36:11

My Mum made me wait until 16, as did my bf's Mum so we had ours done together. I have told my dds the same, 16, but they are only 8 and 6, and not keen yet anyway.

OddBoots Thu 14-Nov-13 15:36:16

I don't think there is a universal age. I had mine done with a gun at 16 and they didn't heal until I gave up on them age 20 and let them close, I had them done with a hollow needle aged 30 and they have healed perfectly.

I've discussed this with dd (10) and told her I would prefer her to be old enough to get them done with a needle but she says she'd rather not have them done anyway as she loves dancing and being active and she's squeamish about them ripping.

LtEveDallas Thu 14-Nov-13 15:36:50

At the start of the summer holidays between primary and secondary.

I'm not a very strict parent, but that is something I will not back down on (no matter how much DD moans about it). DD is just far too bloody active for me to let her risk it, plus she is constantly rolling around on the floor with the dogs. I'm convinced one of them would rip them out.

She's the only one in her year without them, but she's also the only girl in her year that does ballet, tap, swimming, gymnastics - all of which would require her to take them out. Next year she is also moving to a school that has a blanket ban on all jewellery, so there is no point in her having them.

When she does have them done I will be taking her to a proper piercing studio so she has them done with a needle rather than a bloody gun.

IneedAsockamnesty Thu 14-Nov-13 15:44:10

I let my eldest have them just before her 11th birthday to tie in with school holidays and I wish I had said no as the backs of the earrings ended up inside her ear lobe and had to be cut out she now has very interesting earlobe scars (she's an adult)

I've not let any of my other children have them and I won't,what they choose to do when they are grown ups is up to them.

Wow - what happened in the world that having them pierced with guns is so wrong.
I've missed something obviously!???
Honestly - I have no idea.
Had mine done at 16 with a gun (now mid 40's) and then again at 18 (2nd holes) with a gun and all fine.
My DD had hers done 5 years ago with a gun and all OK.
Confused.com!

EmmaBemma Thu 14-Nov-13 15:47:26

I think 11 or thereabouts is prob about right. I'd take them to a proper piercer though, not Claire's Accessories.

IneedAsockamnesty Thu 14-Nov-13 15:49:53

Guns cannot usually go in a autoclave they also don't aid healing and can cause tissue trauma.

And that's not even getting on to the huge difference in training required between the two methods

rainbowfeet Thu 14-Nov-13 15:54:32

dd had hers first done age 7 (her request, I took lots of persuading) she didn't like the aftercare & after a couple of weeks of tantrums at every earring turn & earlobe clean I said if she didn't just let me do it with no tantrum she'll have to take them out!!! So she did!! hmm

Had them re-done at her own expense at age 9 & this time all was fine!

Thanks Sock I had no idea there was anything wrong with it.
Cheers

NoComet Thu 14-Nov-13 15:56:14

~11th birthday, Y6 very common here, people often wait for holidays.

DD2 was a typical younger sibling and got hers done for her 10th birthday.

heronsfly Thu 14-Nov-13 15:57:33

My mum made me wait till 16, dds 1 and 2 had them done at 14 dd3 was 12 couldnt listen to the moaning any longer

TobyLerone Thu 14-Nov-13 16:01:02

DD was 7. She wanted it done, she promised to look after them (which she did), and she understood that there was no way I'd let her have them done at Claire's or similar -- they'd be done with a needle.

MrsMoon76 Thu 14-Nov-13 16:02:53

I was 5 and was well able to clean and look after them myself. I had no problems and am glad I had them done then. I had piercings done in my teens that didn't heal half as well because I didn't look after them as well as I did as a small child.

mrsravelstein Thu 14-Nov-13 16:04:36

i had mine done at 10, probably the last girl in my class at school at the time. dd is only 3, i guess it depends when she asks but i doubt i'd say yes until she's 8 or 9 ish, as long as she can understand the concept that it's going to hurt a bit!

First at 13 months, second at 11yrs.
My choice obviously, I don't expect anyone to agree with me.

AbsDuCroissant Thu 14-Nov-13 16:07:29

I had mine done first time a few weeks before turning 13 (hard and fast rule by DM). Then I had to have them redone. Then I had my second hole done as a sixteenth birthday present.
At some point I stopped wearing earrings (I don't remember when) so the holes closed. I got them re-pierced (just the one hole) a couple of weeks ago, and tragically, at 32 I haven't been looking after them as well as I should (I clean then once a day). One ear I think got infected, I'm not sure, but otherwise they've been fine. I can't WAIT to be able to change the earrings.

The weirdest thing of getting them repierced nearly 20 years later, as I had completley forgotten what it felt like, and the second the piercing happened it was like I was a kid again, getting my ears pierced for the first time.

Anniegetyourgun Thu 14-Nov-13 16:14:36

Thank God I don't have girls. Sounds like earrings are practically mandatory for female children these days. Why the fuck would you want holes in your bloody ears anyway? Makes no sense to me at all.

exexpat Thu 14-Nov-13 16:21:10

DD has been asking regularly (several times a year) to have hers done since she was three; she has just turned 11 and I will let her have them done in the Christmas holidays.

My mother put a total ban on having ears pierced (it was a bit common hmm) so I snuck off and had them done when I was 14, second hole when I was 16...

cantdoalgebra Thu 14-Nov-13 16:21:36

18. An 18 year old is officially considered an adult and can make their own decisions.

IneedAsockamnesty Thu 14-Nov-13 16:39:14

18. An 18 year old is officially considered an adult and can make their own decisions

Pretty sure that when it comes to this sort of thing that happens at 16 in the uk not 18

Anotherdayanotherdestiny123 Thu 14-Nov-13 16:47:33

Mine is 7 and doesn't want them done but I will let her whenever she asks as I remember how badly I wanted it done and had to wait till 13. Am more than happy to use the gun and go to Claire's, it's only on MN that thighs is appears to be an issue. I have several holes, all guns and no issues at all.

Flossiechops Thu 14-Nov-13 16:53:02

Dd was 8 - her choice, she's now 10 and has more pairs of earrings then anybody I know. But I have strictly banned dangly or big garish ones.

wigglesrock Thu 14-Nov-13 16:53:41

Dd1 was six, dd2 has just turned 6 and has no inclination to get it done. Their school has no issue with them wearing stud earrings & dd1 hasn't need to tape them up for swimming, dancing, PE, tennis.

Flossiechops Thu 14-Nov-13 16:54:50

So a girl below 18 can't make their own decisions hmm

TobyLerone Thu 14-Nov-13 16:57:30

It's ok for a 16 year old girl to have sex, but heaven forbid she get her ears pierced!

FannyFifer Thu 14-Nov-13 16:58:31

Whenever DD asks to get them done.

I see it as a rite of passage and something for a girl to look forward to, and a stepping stone to growing up. I had mine done at moreleys, Brixton when I was 9 or so , and, oh, the anticipation. In my opinion it looks wrong on young girls and babies, akin to gilding the lily. Totally unnecessary and as a poster commented up thread "tacky".

ColdTeaAgain Thu 14-Nov-13 17:00:05

Ears pierced at 3? Just why? Although I don't know why I'm shocked as you see babies and toddlers with ears pierced where I work. Always makes me feel sad. Really don't see why people can't at least wait until secondary school.

usualsuspect Thu 14-Nov-13 17:01:17

Whenever they want.

Lol at 18,my DD had several piercings by the time she was 18.

Arf at waiting until 18, wee bit controlling and Victorian Parent dont you think?

I think dd was about 10/11 or 12, I cant remember exactly.

popmusic84 Thu 14-Nov-13 17:24:18

11. Just after finishing primary school.

gordyslovesheep Thu 14-Nov-13 17:24:41

10 - in our house anyway - then they are responsible for caring for the holes etc themselves

thebody Thu 14-Nov-13 17:30:07

18. wow.

dd1 ears pierced at 9, belly at 14.

dd2 ears at 11 doesn't want belly done.

ds1 tattoo when he got a sat job at 16 so he paid himself.

ds2 like he was at birth. unadorned.

op it's entirely up to you and dd. you can't parent by committee. do what's right for you and her.

Heartbrokenmum73 Thu 14-Nov-13 17:34:17

10th birthday present for DD. We'd discussed it previously and she wasn't ready for the responsibility of cleaning them, sorting her earrings out herself, taking them out/putting them back in for PE, until she was 10. I trusted her at that point, but I also thought it was a good age.

No way in hell I would EVER have decided to 'get them done for her' as some parents do. Wrong in every way, especially on babies and toddlers, and I do honestly believe that it should be illegal for anywhere to pierce a child that doesn't give consent for it. Otherwise it's barbaric - children are not fashion accessories/dolls for decorating as people see fit!

luxemburgerli Thu 14-Nov-13 17:47:30

TheSydenhamSet, while I (sort of) agree with you, your post did make me think. Why is it tacky on little girls, akin to ruining their perfection, but fine on 10 year olds? 10 year olds - and indeed 40 year olds - are just as perfect un-pierced as 3 year olds. It's only because we're more used to seeing older females with earrings.

If I could have the choice again, I wouldn't bother getting mine done. It's a faff remembering to put them in.

renlo Thu 14-Nov-13 17:49:10

Really, every young child and baby with pierced ears is vile?! Charminghmm I come from a culture where it's quite common to have them done as babies. I don't see what the fuss is about to be frank and only encountered this stance against pierced ears on mumsnet and not from anyone I know in real life. I don't know why it's considered part of the culture and tbh I don't care. To each their own, we all make choices and decisions for our children, judge not and all that.

I have two daughters, the eldest had hers done a few weeks ago at the grand old age of 6. She had been pestering ever since she could talk; surrounded by cousins and friends with pierced ears so she was the odd one out. Only reason I didn't do it earlier was because I'm squeamish so my mum took her. Second dd is 3, she has no desire at the minute and I'm happy to take her lead when the time comes, whether that be next year or in 10.

Different people make different choices, live and let live and stop with the judging already. It's rather tedious.

uselessinformation Thu 14-Nov-13 17:50:00

At whatever age it should be done with a needle. Also they should not be turned and only bathed in sea salt water. Every time you turn them you stop the channel from healing and this increases the chance of infection. Also surgical spirit is too harsh.

jellybeans Thu 14-Nov-13 17:51:17

Mine were 10 & 12 I think. I always said if they were desperate I would let them from about 7-8yrs. Mine weren't interested till later though. I don't like it on babies/toddlers.

ZombieMojaveWonderer Thu 14-Nov-13 17:57:51

10

ZombieMojaveWonderer Thu 14-Nov-13 17:58:32

And only girls because my step son now looks like a daft pirate wink

Remotecontrolduck Thu 14-Nov-13 18:05:16

Depends on the child. DD was very mature and adamant she wanted them, so I allowed her to when she was 8, going on 9. No problems with them and she looked after them.

Ideally I'd have preferred for her to wait until 11ish, but it was her body at the end of the day and I trusted her to be responsible.

Arf at 18, good luck with that! Maybe save being so hard line on issues which actually matter? If you say no to every little thing, when there's something serious you really object to, like a dodgy tattoo, they'll take no notice!

Hulababy Thu 14-Nov-13 18:09:19

My rule was always the summer olidays between primary and secondary, so aged 11y.

Infact, DD had hers done at that time, this summer, and all has gone well. She has looked after them entirely herself, no problems at all. She removes them for PE lessons and puts them back in herself after the lesson.

Hulababy Thu 14-Nov-13 18:12:34

My main rule really though - would be start of school summer holidays. Many primary school have rules regarding earrings - from banning them entirely to having them removed for PE - so you need the full 6/7 weeks before you cn do that. Most schools won't allow tape over them as it is still a H&S risk then. Secondaries are often the smae for the latter too.

jenniferlawrence Thu 14-Nov-13 18:12:37

Mine were done when I was a baby. Less than 1 definitely. It was something that was normal for my grandmother's family and she took me and paid as a present and my Mum went along with it. I never thought anything of it. It was convenient for me that they were done and healed up long before I could remember.

I've said the same of one of these threads before (on a different forum) and was told that my Mum is a child abuser which is ridiculous.

However, I don't like how it looks on young children. I think it's unnecessary and I wouldn't want to put holes in my daughter's perfect little ears until she's much older. I don't judge my Mum or gran for doing it though. They certainly didn't intend to abuse me.

confusedabouted Thu 14-Nov-13 18:13:20

i had mine done loads of times as a kid because i used to take them out before they healed and they would heal again and i couldnt get earrings in again,i think the first time i was about 3.

I have a dd who is 3 ad i feel she is too young,if she actually asked for it once she was about 6 or 7 then maybe.

confusedabouted Thu 14-Nov-13 18:16:09

Oh yeah sorry if its been said already but what about boys?I hate earrings on boys.

kissmyshineymetalass Thu 14-Nov-13 18:17:12

I was about 3 days old when mine were pierced.i have 4 DD and they were all aged 6 mths old when I had theirs done, the oldest just had her seconds done and she's twelve.

Hulababy Thu 14-Nov-13 18:17:48

I always hate earrings on boys so wouldn't ever pay for a boy to have them done. They'd need t be old enough to earn the money and pay for it themseves I guess. Unfair? Probably yes!

Andro Thu 14-Nov-13 18:23:12

16, when she can sign for it herself.

Mylovelyboy Thu 14-Nov-13 18:25:43

16 I personally think little girls with pierced ears look awful. Looks cheap and tacky even if they are little studs.

CoffeeChocolateWine Thu 14-Nov-13 18:26:01

My mum made me wait till I was 16 and it really pissed me off as all my friends had theirs done. But in hindsight I agree with her. If my DD wants hers done (she's only 16 months so hopefully not for a while yet!) I'd probably want her to wait till about 14 although she may be able to twist my arm at 13. No younger than that though for me.

HildaOgden Thu 14-Nov-13 18:56:41

Kissmyshineymetalass,I'm not stirring...just genuinely curious...why did you get your daughters pierced when they were babies?

DrinkFeckArseGirls Thu 14-Nov-13 19:04:35

21 if you ask me. Not entirely joking...

DrinkFeckArseGirls Thu 14-Nov-13 19:05:24

I was 14 btw.

LawofAverages Thu 14-Nov-13 19:05:32

I got mine done at 7 with a gun. Didn't do me any harm at all.

I do think it's a personal thing though - no reason to get them done before the girl really wants it, before she's ready to look after them properly or at a time that will be inconvenient practically.

bigbuttons Thu 14-Nov-13 19:05:52

all at 5

Interested to know how a 3 year old asks to have their ears pierced?

exexpat Thu 14-Nov-13 19:34:21

ExitPursuedByABear - er, she says, "Mummy I want to have earrings like my best friend S" (little girl from India who had her ears pierced as a baby). I explain that S can only wear earrings because she has had holes made in her ears. DD says she wants holes in her ears too. I explain it will hurt and she is too young. Etc etc.

Variation on that conversation repeated every few months for the past seven years, with me becoming increasingly graphic about what happens to ear piercings if you don't look after them - DD was an active, tree-climbing sort of small girl and always had a fine collection of bruises and scabs, which she picked at... I said that if by the time she was 11 she had got out of that habit and would promise to look after her ears properly, she could get them done. She is now 11 and I think she is capable of doing all the cleansing/disinfecting/twisting etc.

Spaulding Thu 14-Nov-13 19:37:42

I was 11 when I had mine done. I pestered my mum for years because all my friends had them done but she said no. When I eventually had them done it was with a gun and they went all manky. One of the backs stuck to my ear and I literally almost fainted when I yanked it out. Had to let them close up. Had them done again at 15 and they've been fine ever since.

If I had a DD I would also wait until 9/10/11, whenever I felt she was able to take care of them herself. I would also take her to a proper piercing place and get then done with a needle, not a gun, and avoid that awful burning solution they give you in Claire's (not sure if they still do)

But someone up thread said they had their dd's ears pierced at 3 because she asked.

Ericaequites Thu 14-Nov-13 19:46:42

Menarche or age 12' whichever comes first seems reasonable to me. Earrings are for young ladies, not children.

DownstairsMixUp Thu 14-Nov-13 19:49:44

13

lovelilies Thu 14-Nov-13 20:42:24

My dd was 4, very responsible and informed decision wink
I had to.wait til.11 and it nearly killed me! grin
Not nice on babies tho.

foreverondiet Thu 14-Nov-13 20:46:38

Let her dd have it done age 9.

Loving the idea of a responsible and informed 4 year old.

Heartbrokenmum73 Thu 14-Nov-13 20:49:54

Not nice on 4 year old's either hmm

lovelilies Thu 14-Nov-13 20:51:47

You'd have loved my dd then exit
She could hold a sensible conversation, chop veg with a sharp knife, use metal scissors, and all sorts of other fun stuff at 3/4...shock

Heartbrokenmum73 Thu 14-Nov-13 20:53:10

So could my 4 year old. Doesn't mean she understood the mechanics of getting her ears pierced though. It also didn't stop me being the responsible adult in her life and allow her to make her decisions that she really couldn't understand.

DownstairsMixUp Thu 14-Nov-13 20:53:52

Oh god! Can't imagine asking my 4 year old! I have ear stretchers and tattoos. If I asked him if he wanted them now he would probably say yes! Ha!

lovelilies Thu 14-Nov-13 20:59:00

She did understand though...
I told her it hurts a lot when immediately done, can be sore afterwards. Could potentially develop an infection (yes, yes, she was capable of understanding the word potential) not allowed dangly earrings - Still isn't age 8 because she's a tree climber grin
I cleaned them for her. We've had no problems anyway. Was just sharing my experience!

livinginwonderland Thu 14-Nov-13 20:59:21

I got mine done at 12 (summer before year 8). I think I would say 10 as the youngest age. Arf at those who say to wait until 18. I don't know any teenagers who would willingly wait that long. They can get them done at 16 without your consent, and indeed, there's no law against getting them done without your consent at 14 either, it's just most places have restrictions in place.

lovelilies Thu 14-Nov-13 21:00:12

[hoiks bosom and fingers pearl necklace] wink wink

shock at pearl necklace.

lovelilies Thu 14-Nov-13 21:16:13

and matching pearl earrings to boot grin

Pobblewhohasnotoes Thu 14-Nov-13 21:20:44

Just because a 3 year old asks, doesn't mean you should say yes.

Kyrptonite Thu 14-Nov-13 21:22:56

DD was 3. She had been asking since she was 2. Seeing other girls at nursery with them I think. I made her watch several other ear piercings, told her it would hurt and she still wanted it done. She didn't cry, said it didn't hurt and helped me clean them. She's not had any problems despite it being done at Claire's and hasn't caused her any long term damage. DS wanted his done but backed out when he saw how they did it.

It's personal choice. DD has always been very vocal and understood it might hurt. I had mine done at 6 and I don't remember it hurting anymore than falling off a bike or getting blood taken.

Mylovelyboy Thu 14-Nov-13 21:23:56

Its not against the law to get babies or childrens ears pierced. Loads of places do it. I just think it looks awful on young children.

It might not be against the law .....

Mylovelyboy Thu 14-Nov-13 21:27:31

What gets me (and this was a situation with a friend of mine). My friend caused such a fuss and was full of tears and worry because her baby was going to get an injection at the clinic. "I am so worried the needle is going to hurt". Yet.............couple of weeks later she was getting a earrings pierced through her baby''s ears and did not bad an eye lid shock

Mattissy Thu 14-Nov-13 21:27:54

I was 16, I've told my dd she can have hers done at 15 3/4, I'm nice like that!

Mylovelyboy Thu 14-Nov-13 21:29:01

Excit you are right, its not against the law. Too many law enforcers on here

Heartbrokenmum73 Thu 14-Nov-13 21:30:18

Loving all these rational toddlers and pre-schoolers who understand all about ear piercings and how painful it is. And their parents who think it's the kind of discussion you have with a child that small, rather than just a flat 'no'.

judges

DownstairsMixUp Thu 14-Nov-13 21:34:56

It isn't unlawful at all no, I was a really teeny baby when I had mine pierced, not sure the exact age but you can see pierced ears in my photos when I was around 2. I'd set 13 at a kind of "benchmark" for my DS (or any future children) but I would say under 10 seems reallllyyy young.

DrinkFeckArseGirls Thu 14-Nov-13 21:35:16

I'm amazed at those duper advanced toddlers that have been discussing consciously ear piercing with their parents. There must be something wrong with DD, she hasn't mentioned it at all! Maybe her eyesight is not good enough that she hasn't noticed
or maybe we don't live in Chavsville where toddlers get treated like dolls.

Kyrptonite Thu 14-Nov-13 21:35:16

It's 2 tiny holes in ears. No body parts have been chopped off, tattooed or irreversibly damaged.
DD wasn't harmed in anyway and she's had them long enough to be able to take them out and put them back in.

howrudeforme Thu 14-Nov-13 21:37:12

" I see it as a rite of passage and something for a girl to look forward to, and a stepping stone to growing up. I had mine done at moreleys, Brixton when I was 9 or so , and, oh, the anticipation. In my opinion it looks wrong on young girls and babies, akin to gilding the lily. Totally unnecessary and as a poster commented up thread "tacky".

Agree with this poster - it's aright of passage in western society.

For the rest of the world (and the world is far bigger than our society) it isn't. My mum had mine done at 4- considered late in her community. Mighty glad she did.

I didn't didn't need this rite of passage (in my day - 70/80s I was bewildered at the conversations my friends had over this and the accepted age was about 14-16). And it all ends up in er - ear piercings!

Rite of passage or not. Was very happy not have gone through the 'acceptable age' massive long conversations and arguments.

Kyrptonite Thu 14-Nov-13 21:37:30

Oh yes. Chavsville. Of course, pierced ears=chav. Silly me.

When you resort to class arguments and name calling it lowers the validity of your argument.

NCISaddict Thu 14-Nov-13 21:38:46

My dd was 13, she wanted them done at 8 but she also wanted a gin and tonic at that age, didn't mean I let her have one.
Hate seeing pierced ears on little children.

DownstairsMixUp Thu 14-Nov-13 21:40:49

OK guess I'm a chav then <puts on burberry and other sterotypical chav things and goes to bed>

Mattissy Thu 14-Nov-13 21:40:57

I was 16, I didn't have any fights with my parents, I think I might have asked once. she said 16, seemed fine to me, got on with life.

Don't understand why people think I had such a deprived childhood where I was miserable and constantly at loggerheads with my mother, LMAO.

PigOnRollerskates Thu 14-Nov-13 21:47:32

I said DD could have them done when she broke up from Y6 but she had two holidays booked during the summer with her dad and partner and they were camping / swimming / kayaking so I didn't feel I could send her off with them with newly pierced ears, and wasn't confident they'd get looked after properly, so she ended up having them done with just 2 weeks of summer hols left.

It meant she had to wear plasters on her ears for the first few weeks of term, but she wasn't that bothered and the teachers were fine about it. In the end she had to take them out for an hour once a week from 4 weeks in because she wasn't allowed on the trampoline with them in, even with plasters, but it's now been over 2 months and she's completely fine about changing her earrings and looking after them herself.

I think beginning of summer holidays age 11 is ideal in any other circumstance. She's managed the care of them well herself, and was completely committed to having them done. I haven't had any negative comments, and I have a LOT of judgy friends & family!

OFFS. I know this is a controversial subject but if I stabbed a needle into my baby's arm I could be accused of child abuse.

And?

usualsuspect Thu 14-Nov-13 21:49:38

I see the it's 'chavvy' posts have started.

Quite late in the thread to pull them out though.

You wouldn't want someone to think your daughters are not nice MC girls now would ha?

usualsuspect Thu 14-Nov-13 21:50:04

Would ya*

DrinkFeckArseGirls Thu 14-Nov-13 21:56:06

I'm foreign so no in no class over here.

Seriously 'beautifying' such young kids so permanently is bizarre at best.

ThePinkOcelot Thu 14-Nov-13 21:57:06

My dds were 9 and 6 and shock, horror, I have let dd1 have her belly button pierced at 12.

DownstairsMixUp Thu 14-Nov-13 21:57:47

This thread was never going to end well was it.

Kyrptonite Thu 14-Nov-13 21:57:59

It's hardly permanent. Take out earrings and oh look, no earrings.

usualsuspect Thu 14-Nov-13 21:59:45

You big chavs.

TobyLerone Thu 14-Nov-13 22:01:28

I'm surprised at any legitimate piercer piercing any body part (other than ears) on anyone under 16.

Unless they've started doing navel piercings at Claire's now...

Rosencrantz Thu 14-Nov-13 22:03:49

To everyone saying 16... Would you rather your child loose their virginity or have their ears pierced first?

DownstairsMixUp Thu 14-Nov-13 22:04:56

I'm surprised (but why?) at the attitude if you don't agree with someone that has a different parenting view to you, they are "chavvy" is this normal?! As I said, as a bench mark my DS any future kids I'd say about 13 but I was pierced at a young age (baby) and got my belly pierced really young (It's now scarred but I don't blame my parents for that, I would of got it done later anyway)

Toby My regular one I get tattoos from does not pierce under 16's at all, but not sure how common this is.

?

Mintyy Thu 14-Nov-13 22:05:37

11ish/12ish or later

Ha ha ha

TobyLerone Thu 14-Nov-13 22:07:45

Mine neither, Downstairs. I wouldn't be impressed if they did.

olgaga Thu 14-Nov-13 22:09:25

DD Wanted hers done at 7, I said to wait until the summer holiday before secondary school.

When it came to it, she couldn't be bothered. Friends who'd had ears pierced had experienced problems with infection and soreness. A few let theirs grow over.

Now aged 13 she says she might get it done when she's older if she wants to.

She also says that she and her friends are put off by the association with the kind of kids round here who have their ears pierced, and also the culture around more extreme piercing, plugs, tattoos etc. It's no longer about nice jewellery, which is a shame. I hope she changes her mind when she's older because I have some lovely earrings to pass on to her!

livinginwonderland Thu 14-Nov-13 22:11:26

Lots of tattoo parlours won't pierce under 18 without parental consent but it's not the law to require consent.

There's no law on piercing anyone under 18 with the exception of nipples and genitals. Otherwise there are no legal restrictions, but most reputable places say 16 for ears (without consent) and 18 for body piercings.

So where are all these children pierced?

TobyLerone Thu 14-Nov-13 22:15:39

Claire's, obv!

For every reputable piercer who won't pierce a child's navel, there will be a disreputable one who will.
I'd be concerned what other standards they were willing to let slide.

usualsuspect Thu 14-Nov-13 22:16:02

What kind of kids would that be then?

Those rough 'uns from the wrong side of the tracks?

TobyLerone Thu 14-Nov-13 22:17:11

A lot of piercers will pierce a child's ears with parental consent, but relatively few parents take their child to a proper piercer anyway.

DrinkFeckArseGirls Thu 14-Nov-13 22:18:52

Erm, but the holes stay... Right? confused

DownstairsMixUp Thu 14-Nov-13 22:19:08

I've heard Claire's are not very strict on ages but never actually had a piercing from there myself so can't say.

Still think the whole "chavvy" attitude is not on. I wouldn't personally piece a baby/toddler/infant aged child though.

Who mentioned kids?

DrinkFeckArseGirls Thu 14-Nov-13 22:20:39

Erm, no I do 'to think people who have different opinions to me are 'chavvy'. It is just an unnecessary painful sexualising procedure to carry out on someone who cannot consent because they are not an adult.

Caff2 Thu 14-Nov-13 22:21:09

When DS1 was about six or seven, he really wanted his ear pierced. Loads of his friends had it done. Not a chance, was my line; when you're a teenager, it's up to you. Now he's thirteen, and shows absolutely no inclination at all. Why are girls different? I didn't say no, I said, when you're old enough to have really thought about it.

My DD had hers done in the school holidays before she started Secondary .
She can wear them except PE (in Junior she couldn't wear earrings at all)

She chose her earrings (18ct gold)
She chose where she had them done (Claires)
She cleans then and looks after them.

Of course all her friends quite a few of her schoolmates had them done the same time.

We did see a very young baby in the 'hotseat' at Claires one day.
My DD was "Mum that baby can't even sit in the chair". The piercer looked dubious.
My DD was very hoiky judgey pants blush

TobyLerone Thu 14-Nov-13 22:21:45

Claire's definitely don't have a minimum age.

starlight1234 Thu 14-Nov-13 22:24:00

I had mine done at seven simply because my mum said I could and no one else at school was allowed to..

I think waiting till old enough to understand what it involves and how to,look after them themselves...

DownstairsMixUp Thu 14-Nov-13 22:24:32

Think I'll disagree on that one then.

That's interesting Toby I never knew that about Claire's!

sunshine401 Thu 14-Nov-13 22:24:44

When they are adults.

Mushypeasandchipstogo Thu 14-Nov-13 22:26:00

11 absolute minimum and only if they pay themselves with pocket money. Babies with ears pierced look horrendous and even Claire's won't do that!

Ohwhatfuckeryisthis Thu 14-Nov-13 22:26:40

Exactly the same as 70. Except hers didn't heal up for start of school and she had to have treatment. She had been super careful tbf. sad

Toby IIRC Claires will pierce babies if they had their injections (so, about 3 months? ) with the production of the Baby Book.

I didn't pay much attention to that part though (because I wasn't taking a baby there)

Writerwannabe83 Thu 14-Nov-13 22:29:59

I wasn't allowed mine to be done until I was 14. I imagine that's pretty old in today's world though smile

Lilacroses Thu 14-Nov-13 22:30:24

Blimey, what alot of drama about ear peircing!!! Amazed that some people make their dds wait till they are 16 or even 18! So controlling! I'm not interested in jewelry at all so mine closed up years and years ago. Dd is very different to me, very into dressing up and all that. She had hers done at 9, most of her friends have had theirs done. Never had any problems.

TobyLerone Thu 14-Nov-13 22:30:38

Yes, 70. I just read their form which needs to be filled in before you get your ears pierced there.

It says "if over 4 months, has the child received its final immunisations?"

It doesn't actually say they won't do it if not, mind!

Mushy my mum made me pay for mine (she really didn't want me to have them done TBH. I was 14 when she relented. I saved the £2.50 - it was years ago- and tottered off to the local hippy shop, run by the friendly neighbourhood drug peddlar (i kid yea not) and had them done )

My DD cost £40. I wouldn't have made the little soul pay that herself .

What are final immunisations?

Mushypeasandchipstogo Thu 14-Nov-13 22:34:58

70 can't believe Claire's will pierce babies? Ugh ugh ugh. Who in their right mind would go there with a baby? shock

Kyrptonite Thu 14-Nov-13 22:37:18

I must have missed something. I've never made a connection between earrings and the concept of sexy.

TobyLerone Thu 14-Nov-13 22:37:27

Who knows, exit? I'm 36 and have just had a whooping cough immunisation. Maybe I'm not done yet!

livinginwonderland Thu 14-Nov-13 22:38:13

Claire's will pierce any babies that have had all their final jabs, so around 3-4 months old.

MuffCakes Thu 14-Nov-13 22:39:12

4 months, after their injections both mine got theirs done, meh it's only MN that seems to care about this in RL I have not had any looks or nagative comments. DD actually has hers done twice and had the second holes done when she was 3, I don't see the problem.

lottieandmia Thu 14-Nov-13 22:39:33

Dd2 had hers done at 6 - has been fine. Dd3 has been asking if she can have hers done but she's only 4 - will probably wait a bit.

TobyLerone Thu 14-Nov-13 22:41:58

But why pierce a tiny baby's ears?

Not judging, just asking. What are the reasons for doing that?

DownstairsMixUp Thu 14-Nov-13 22:42:06

I didn't get the link to it being sexy either, sorry.

DownstairsMixUp Thu 14-Nov-13 22:42:43

Toby This is my mum's words, "because it looked cute" (I had pierced ears at just under 1 year old)

Spose it depends on where you live.

judges more

TobyLerone Thu 14-Nov-13 22:44:04

I suppose 'looking cute' is subjective.

I like to control my child. Is that wrong?

whenever either asked for their ears pierced.

TobyLerone Thu 14-Nov-13 22:47:44

Yes. Children are free spirits. They should be allowed to have holes punched into their body whenever they choose.

DrinkFeckArseGirls Thu 14-Nov-13 22:48:57

Wearing earrings like using make up is consciously or not primarily used to make a person more attractive mostly for the benefit of attracting a partner. You wouldn't put a make up in a toddler a school age child so why the permanent piercing is different.

I have several hole punchers.

<flexes.>

Kyrptonite Thu 14-Nov-13 22:49:14

She asked, she had Xmas money and it saved buying plastic crap. I'm not sure really. It just didn't seem like a massive deal. She wants to go horse riding lessons. It might hurt but she knows that. I can't see the difference really.
DD is mental about pain. She didn't even cry at injections

Horse riding and ear piercing do not mix. Trust me. Choose horses.

DownstairsMixUp Thu 14-Nov-13 22:53:09

Cute is subjective. However, me and my Mum don't have a good relationship and I don't think she should of pierced my ears because SHE thought it looked cute. But that's one reply to that.

MuffCakes Thu 14-Nov-13 22:55:15

Yes I did dd first time because it looks cute and I wanted it for her pictures. It did look adorable but she hardly wears earrings now, things like parties and school discos but the holes are there for life. I think it's easier to have them done when they're babies, you can keep it clean and theres less risk of infection then say a 7yr old or even a 10yr old fiddling with it and getting their hair caught in them.

TobyLerone Thu 14-Nov-13 22:55:51

I'm with you, downstairs. Not a good enough reason, IMO. But what's done is done.

sunshine401 Thu 14-Nov-13 22:57:43

What about their nose? Belly button? Tongue?
Tattoos?
If you think they are old enough to choose and be responsible where does the line stop.

Yep. Easier when they are babies.

FFS

fgm

peggyundercrackers Thu 14-Nov-13 22:59:03

I had mine done at 16 - was with a gun in a small shop in town, cant remember their name and they are long gone now... never had any problems, always cleaned with surgical spirits and took them out to clean them and put them back. looking back im not sure why I got them done, stopped wearing any sort of earings after about 8 years for some reason.

cant believe so many people here have had their young children and babies done - chavtastic! part of being a responsible adult is stopping children things that aren't really appropriate for them, earings aren't really responsible for a small child.

DownstairsMixUp Thu 14-Nov-13 22:59:10

On the flip side to my Mother, I pissed her right off in my late teens when I decided to stretch my ears grin but by then I was old enough (over 18) to do it myself. She still hates them to this day. I wind her up and tell her she pushed me into it with the first hole. (All though I do love my piercings now and wouldn't change them)

TobyLerone Thu 14-Nov-13 23:00:37

Yes, you should totally get their tongues pierced as young as possible. I waited until I was an adult to get mine done and it hurt like a bastard.

I wish my mum had had the foresight to get my tongue done after my final vaccinations.

Also, it looks cute.

tattoos, bellybutton piercing ect isn't legal under age 18.
there is no minimum age for ears.

TobyLerone Thu 14-Nov-13 23:02:46

There's no minimum legal age in the UK for non-genital/nipple piercings, hashtag.

DownstairsMixUp Thu 14-Nov-13 23:03:57

Doesn't mean it's OK. There's a lot of screwed up laws in a lot of people's opinions tbh.

lovelilies Thu 14-Nov-13 23:04:26

... just been discussing venepuncture with dp (he needs some bloods doing) and we've agreed to let dd have a go at taking his blood grin

lovelilies Thu 14-Nov-13 23:05:25

And getting her nose pierced at 10 grin

lovelilies Thu 14-Nov-13 23:05:48

just kidding BTW shock

Lol.

shoots self

relief

ravenAK Thu 14-Nov-13 23:09:07

Mine can have theirs done whenever they ask.

Provided there's a reputable local piercer that'll do it properly, that is. Which means secondary school age.

Having them bodged at Claire's is not an option.

Mushypeasandchipstogo Thu 14-Nov-13 23:09:15

I'm with you on this one Toby. Will try to get my DC tongues pierced and persuade them it looks cute.

sunshine401 Thu 14-Nov-13 23:10:12

They are not so responsible then are they? Being children and all that right to protection from harm.

DownstairsMixUp Thu 14-Nov-13 23:10:21

Claire's still use a gun to, don't really know any reputable piercings that say to use a gun anymore?!

TobyLerone Thu 14-Nov-13 23:12:43

Do it, mushy. They'll thank you when they're older.

sunshine401 Thu 14-Nov-13 23:14:50

At the end of it all. Children are children and will ask for many things it does not make them responsible for choices when they are under 18 the parents are responsible that is why you have to give your consent.

I may get my DS (14) tongue pierced so I can thread a thin chain through it and fashion an impromtu "Scolds Bridle" to stop him prattling on about Assassins Creed wink

Cute?

TobyLerone Thu 14-Nov-13 23:17:32

Cute and practical, 70!

lovelilies Thu 14-Nov-13 23:18:49

Hi toby!

TobyLerone Thu 14-Nov-13 23:20:34

Hi lilies smile

NearTheWindmill Thu 14-Nov-13 23:21:23

Shock at ear piercing on MN always amazes me when if there were a thread about tattooing or nose or tongue piercing anyone who dared say it wasn't nice would be accused of judging or being up themselves.

Can't win on MNet.

TobyLerone Thu 14-Nov-13 23:22:50

Not if the thread were about tattooing/piercing young children, NearTheWindmill.

DownstairsMixUp Thu 14-Nov-13 23:25:30

Erm no Nearthewindmill Pretty sure if a thread started about people asking about tattooing young kids it would get shot down.

Ilovemyrabbits Thu 14-Nov-13 23:28:27

I would possibly be talked into allowing dd to have hers done now, cos she's 12, but she doesn't want to. I'm glad, cos I saw my niece pierce her ears at 10, tongue at 15, without parental consent, and belly button at 16. My niece was desperate to grow up. I consider myself lucky that DD doesn't want to grow up too fast and that's part of what pierced ears is about, being grown up.

Unless of course it's done at a really early age and then it's just about being pretty. I am happy that DD never really went down that path either. She won't entertain heels, thongs, mini skirts or plunge necks. Maybe next year it'll be a different story but for now, I find her sensible and she tends to share our views.

AbsduCroissant Fri 15-Nov-13 07:18:30

I agree with the other posters about not seeing the connection between earrings and sex.
It seems any time a woman does something slightly vain it's labelled as sexual. REALLY?! I wear make up sometimes so that I don't look so tired, or because I like it, or I think the colour goes with my coat. It is rare that my first thought is "PHWOAR this is going to make me look shaggable". Likewise when getting dressed, I reckon only around 1% of the time (poor DH ...) I wear something because I think it will make me look hot.
I don't see this about men - you don't see "so Bob's grown a beard - that's really sexualised, innit?"

ICameOnTheJitney Fri 15-Nov-13 07:44:26

Makes me laugh....the attitudes are so funny! My DD had hers done at 8....because I knew she'd look after them and she wanted them.....her friend isn't allowed because "They're not for little girls" but she IS allowed to go online without anyone present and has already been subject to the attentions of a pervert.

My DD isn't allowed online...but has her ears pierced....I know which attitude I prefer.

Kyrptonite Fri 15-Nov-13 07:55:39

Claire's haven't bodged mine or DDs. My second holes (done with a needle at the tattooists) got infected and they're now closed up.

exit I just thought the earrings would make the helmet look cuter for riding! I am joking though I rode for years and fully remember that being bitten by a horse hurts more than piercings. Also I remember the horse better so must have longer lasting psychological implications!

Hulababy Fri 15-Nov-13 07:56:31

Lots of piercers still use guns for ear lobe piercing. We'll in Sheffield anyway. I discovered this when looking at piercing places before getting dad's ears done. These were places recommended online and with excellent reviews. Almost all offered gun and needle for lobes, some just needle. Only two offered needle only.

Hulababy Fri 15-Nov-13 07:56:44

Dd not dad!

sashh Fri 15-Nov-13 08:13:00

Wow - what happened in the world that having them pierced with guns is so wrong.

Somebody read something on the interweb.

Guns cannot be autoclaved - true
There is microscopic blood splatter - also true

Autoclave is not the only way to sterilize equipment, the actual gun doesn't need to be sterile, only the earring needs to be.

There is microscopic blood splatter from any piercing method that can be transferred to the next person.

Nothing wrong with guns to pierce ears.

Theodorous Fri 15-Nov-13 08:49:36

4 months, after their injections both mine got theirs done, meh it's only MN that seems to care about this in RL I have not had any looks or nagative comments.

The reason is that MNers tie themselves up in knots because the real reason they get their faffs in such a froth is because they think it's common but they obviously can't say it out loud. Except for the nasty sneery comments from the charmers such as "chavtastic"....nice.

TobyLerone Fri 15-Nov-13 08:53:29

There are other reasons not to use a gun, to do with the actual way they make the hole.

LtEveDallas Fri 15-Nov-13 09:13:51

Forcing a blunt earring through the lobe at high pressure/speed is more damaging than using a very sharp hollow needle. Guns also have a set 'size' so you may find the earing is on too tight or too loose.

The hollow needle is a hollow piercing tube. The needle, rather than just ramming through the skin to make a puncture wound, makes a cut in the skin. The hole created houses piercing jewelry properly and heals faster with fewer problems, including a much lower risk of keloid scarring.

Most professional body piercers want the guns banned, especially as (using Claires as an example), less than 2 weeks "training" is required.

Also, the reason that you have to turn earrings that have been done with a gin is because the tissue has been 'torn' or 'traumatised' and so it tries to heal over. I don't trust little kids to wash their hands before turning them. A good needle piercing doesn't need touching at all.

When DD has hers done it will be by a professional, and she will have sleepers for 6 weeks rather than studs (with bacteria ridden butterfly backs).

LtEveDallas Fri 15-Nov-13 09:16:15

Ok, piercings AREN'T done with gin.. and bloody hell, I can spell 'earring' and 'jewellery' smile

TobyLerone Fri 15-Nov-13 09:19:43

Piercings would be much more fun if they were done with gin.

I took DD to Claires and they didn't offer me gin

Daily Mail sad face

LtEveDallas when I had mine done at 14 (and I'm 47 now) I was told sleepers weren't recommended way back then because they could tear the ear/ I would have preferred sleepers myself.

AbsduCroissant Fri 15-Nov-13 09:28:01

I think they should be.

I'm wondering how my re-piercing was done. I went to a piercing parlour (not claires or someone), and she repierced using an earring, so I don't know if that is the gun or needle or what was going on. She also advised - saline solution only, no turning.

LtEveDallas Fri 15-Nov-13 09:31:45

I re-pierced my belly button myself with a hollow needle and plenty of Smirnoff on board - but I don't recommend it grin

Mushypeasandchipstogo Fri 15-Nov-13 09:54:41

Anybody else noticed that all the DNA tested babies on JK have pierced ears? Oh they look soooooo cute. confused

TiggyD Fri 15-Nov-13 09:57:25

Permanent body modification should be for adults only.

Kyrptonite Fri 15-Nov-13 10:08:04

I wouldn't know. I'm not chavvy enough to watch JK grin

bellybuttonfairy Fri 15-Nov-13 11:24:35

Im not bothered if people want to have their childrens ears pierced as the babys head is being delivered. I wanted dd's to wait until they were older so they can make their own informed decision. I think secondary school would be a good time. However dd1 has pleaded nearly every day since she could speak for her bloody ears to be done (i never wear earring) and nobody in class has them either. Now dh has told her that she can have them done next month for her 7th birthday.

I didnt know about the argument between a gun and needle. Maybe if i tell her that it will be a hole bored out with a needle one ear at a time - it will put her off.

Hulababy Fri 15-Nov-13 17:43:38

Earrings in the lobes are not necessarily permanent body modifications though Tiggy.

tb Fri 15-Nov-13 18:21:25

DD had hers pierced when she was 11 or 12. I had mine done at 16 - I had to wear uniform at school until the 6th form, and ear-studs weren't allowed until you didn't wear uniform any more.

DownstairsMixUp Fri 15-Nov-13 19:04:34

It's not just about the hygeine with guns anymore, as someone said above it's about the actual way it pieces in itself. When I was 13 they were piercing noses and tops of ears with them guns in lots of places. I would never let a gun near me if i want a piercing ever again!

Ohwhatfuckeryisthis Fri 15-Nov-13 19:50:34

Ok Theo. I will. I do think it's not only common but unnecessary. Wait till old enough to make informed choice and to look after themselves.

My DD i told her she could at 12, but she was scared and waited until 15.

Heartbrokenmum73 Fri 15-Nov-13 20:54:11

I don't think it's common (because I'm common as muck - nowt wrong with that grin) and I won't use the word chavvy either.

But I think it's wrong and I will judge the parents of small children and babies whose ears are pierced (regardless of all these amazingly rational toddlers hmm) the same way I judge toddlers in heeled shoes, babies being given hard-boiled lollipops and babies in fucking headbands.

I repeat what I said earlier - babies/toddlers/children even are not fashion accessories or dolls. They are cute and gorgeous enough, without needing their bodies modifying to give some stupid adults the 'awww' reaction.

It's not cute or pretty - it's quite sick-making.

mitchsta Fri 15-Nov-13 21:00:54

For me it was third time lucky after chickening out and running out of the shop twice 15. For my kids it would be after primary school. Friend let her DD get hers done age 6 and she hated them and took them out within a couple of weeks. Couldn't be arsed with them at all.

MalcolmTuckersMistress Fri 15-Nov-13 21:02:17

My mum got hers done at 40 and my grandad told her off saying she was too young!

Annunziata Fri 15-Nov-13 21:08:42

My baby's birth mother pierced hers and I don't want to take them out. She wears hairbands too, but that's down to me and her sisters smile

My older DDs were about 6 I think. I can't really remember.

olgaga Sat 16-Nov-13 23:40:31

Guns v needles; useful explanation here...

http://blog.bodyjewellery.co.uk/2013/07/body-piercing-needles-vs-guns/

olgaga Sat 16-Nov-13 23:40:31

Guns v needles; useful explanation here...

http://blog.bodyjewellery.co.uk/2013/07/body-piercing-needles-vs-guns/

VerySmallSqueak Sat 16-Nov-13 23:42:10

We went with 9.

olgaga Sat 16-Nov-13 23:42:54

Sorry for the double post, and lack of link - just can'work it out on my phone!

olgaga Sun 17-Nov-13 00:04:29
steff13 Sun 17-Nov-13 01:31:55

My dad made me wait until I was 15, and even then he maintained that only floozies get their ears pierced. hmm

My daughter is three, we will probably let her get hers done once she's old enough to care for them, provided she wants them.

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