WIBU to switch off Topsy and Tim

(196 Posts)
GoofyIsACow Wed 13-Nov-13 17:46:31

Beacuse they used the word 'playdate'... Twice!?

In fact 'a double playdate'

FFS! grin

MrsDrRanj Wed 13-Nov-13 17:51:52

YWNBU

It is truly pants

Guitargirl Wed 13-Nov-13 17:55:21

YANBU

Am pretty sure it was Topsy and Tim (never seen it before) that I had to switch off the other day when they discovered a hole in the roof, rain was coming in and they turned it into one big jolly 'project' which included the neighbours and everything. So annoying.

GoofyIsACow Wed 13-Nov-13 17:56:35

I used to read the T&T books as a child, and loved them... The tv programme is utterly toss...

Wow Guitar, that sounds jolly hmm

Catmint Wed 13-Nov-13 17:59:38

What an excruciating programme. So cheap and awful. Piss all over my childhood cbeebies, why doncha?

Katie Morag was a bit confused as well.

Twoandtwohalves Wed 13-Nov-13 18:04:13

Aww I am fond of it sad. DS1 is 2.5 and has a huge pile of second hand Topsy and Tim books he insists on at bedtime. I like that they are in a "normal" (for telly) house and so far very ordinary things happen to them. I wish they were pre-schoolers like the kids in the books but imagine it would be too difficult to get 4yos to act.

I am also taking tips on toy storage from the big ikea unit screwed to the living room wall. I really thought the programme would be mn approved!

Brittabot Wed 13-Nov-13 18:22:11

YABU my children (2 & 3.5) beg to watch it again and again and I might have let them watch it twice in a row so I could have an uninterrupted cup of tea

Brittabot Wed 13-Nov-13 18:24:56

Although fair do's "play date" is an awful phrase.

Fairylea Wed 13-Nov-13 18:25:39

Why does one have a nickname for a name and one is called a sensible name? Bizarre.

<overthinking>

wherethewildthingis Wed 13-Nov-13 18:30:14

I hated it that the boys were playing on the quad bike outside, while the girls made bloody "princess" cupcakes. YANBU!

Purplefrogshoe Wed 13-Nov-13 18:32:44

yabu i loved the topsy and tim books as a child. my dd5 loves the programme she has even watched them several times on iplayer

LadyMetroland Wed 13-Nov-13 18:35:49

I think you're missing the point here

It's not high drama aimed at mummies

It's kids tv done extremely well. Small children love seeing ordinary life depicted in books, tv and art.

My two (aged 2 & 4) are completely transfixed

The only thing I'll concede is some over-acting on the part of the slightly annoying mum.

Spaulding Wed 13-Nov-13 18:40:21

YANBU. Saw it for the first time today and it was bloody annoying. I loved the books as a child and I was excited when I heard CBeebies were making it into a show. Thought it would be animated though, not live-action.

On a side note, I'm sure the mum in it used to be on that awful Channel 5 soap Family Affairs.

MadBannersAndCopPorn Wed 13-Nov-13 18:44:14

YANBU

I caught it for the first time tonight and thought it was a load of rubbish. I hated the boys playing on quads and girls decorating princess cupcakes too- Tim's friend a boy, Topsy's a girl etc

Pissed all over my fond childhood memories of reading the books....

ABitterPIL Wed 13-Nov-13 18:54:47

What whherethewildthingis said!

KerwhizzedMyself Wed 13-Nov-13 18:56:12

YANBU. It's ruining my memories of the books. I don't remember them all being so... yummy mummy-fied.

I quite liked it blush
Like someone said upthread, I like that they live in a very ordinary sized house and do mostly boring everyday things. The quad bike/cupcake thing did grate on me though sad

5Foot5 Wed 13-Nov-13 19:26:20

YABU to have it on in the first place. I used to loathe these books with a passion when DD was small. There are so many books that it is fun to read to small children - and then there are the dreaded T & T. God there is dull and then beyond dull. My heart would sink when she chose one at the library and DH and I would argue over who had to read it to her!

ToysRLuv Wed 13-Nov-13 19:26:27

DS (4) loves it. The sexism's bit hmm, but apart from that, I think it's ok. We haven't got any of the books and I'm a foreigner, so no memories to ruin.

CrochetKate Wed 13-Nov-13 19:29:04

I really liked it.

Didnt see the quad bike cupcake episode though, as the thing I liked was that Topsy was not overtly girly.

i love that they stuck to the original spirit of the books though, living in a normal house, normal furniture etc, and normal things happen

elliejjtiny Wed 13-Nov-13 19:34:18

YANBU. I loved the books as a child. Hate the tv programme. Of course the dc's love it

Aarow Wed 13-Nov-13 19:43:54

I quite liked it. I preferred it to the one where Topsy/Tim were sleeping on the blow up beds, because that was just so boring and left the toddler on practically a cliffhanger, so I was asked about moving house every minute onwards.

blondiep14 Wed 13-Nov-13 19:52:52

Tis rubbish compared to the fabulous books wink!
Kids love it tho. A lot!

Twoandtwohalves Wed 13-Nov-13 19:53:47

Thing is, for those with fond childhood memories, sorry to break it to you but nothing much happens in the books either. Last night I read that Tim got wet feet because he wouldn't wear his wellies and Topsy wandered off in the supermarket. There are is sexism in that there's a very traditional mum at home/dad out at work set up, and eg when there is a baby born next door Topsy is playing with a dolly in a pushchair and Tim has a teddy in a trailer. I am looking forward to joining in with the script for these and many other familiar scenarios

Ruggles Wed 13-Nov-13 20:13:45

My kids love it and I do too. Its one of the few things I've seen on tv which is normal - it's life and probably why they love it so much - it's only started recently and they are begging to watch it after bath time. The quad bike and princess cup cake thing is normal too - 10 minutes in DCs nursery would prove that point.

BlackholesAndRevelations Wed 13-Nov-13 21:05:56

Don't you think the acting is just horrendous, though?

KerwhizzedMyself Wed 13-Nov-13 21:20:40

Ooh I thought they were good little actors!

Scholes34 Wed 13-Nov-13 22:54:29

The thing about Topsy and Tim is that the stories are supposed to be about boring everyday things, because Jean Adamson recognised there were few children's books available about boring everyday things.

Hate the word "playdate".

Absolutely loved Topsy and Tim's Friday Book when I was younger, when they went to a party dressed as gypsies. Would that be allowed now? Probably more Channel 4 than CBeebies.

yummymumtobe Wed 13-Nov-13 23:06:44

Didn't know it was on so will look out for it as I loved the books when I was younger.

Btw what's wrong with the word playdate?! Can't see why it would cause offence? Just quicker than saying 'come round to play'

nennypops Wed 13-Nov-13 23:29:41

Popularly known as Dropsy and Dim in our house.

BlackholesAndRevelations Thu 14-Nov-13 06:25:05

The kids are ok... It's the adults who can't act! I do find it extremely dull, but then I'm not three and therefore the target audience.

KerwhizzedMyself Thu 14-Nov-13 17:47:07

And today we've had butterfly jeans for topsy and dinosaur for tim. I really thought for a second that tim was going to be upset because he wanted butterflies too but nah. I really think they missed a trick in not updating the sexism or gender stuff.

SteamWisher Thu 14-Nov-13 17:49:14

YANBU

I thought it was going to be animated. Why not do that instead of bloody actors?!

AugustaProdworthy Thu 14-Nov-13 17:50:34

Mine have just finished watching it and now asked to see another on iplayer
I don't mind- they are polite, friendly and the stories are just normal everyday stuff. It's a nice break from superheroes.
And Peppa Pig
And Ben and Holly

FreshGarbage Thu 14-Nov-13 18:05:12

I'm struggling with them - purely because they aren't twins in real life, but they look so twinnish...every episode is freaking me out!

DoubleLifeIsALifeOfSorts Sun 17-Nov-13 00:37:20

It's flabbergastingly sexist - I was so disappointed sad

Mummy & topsy do the washing while Tim helps daddy with the mans work. Topsy is inside making cakes and Tim gets told they're not for him and he must go outside and play with the quad bike...

I can't let my 3.5 yr old, he already thinks girls can't do stuff that boys can.

LittleBearPad Sun 17-Nov-13 00:42:17

The cakes and quad hike thing was depressingly sexist.

And the theme tune is too catchy in my head again

Mouldypineapple Mon 18-Nov-13 17:56:39

Ha I knew there would be a Topsy and Tim thread or three! My dd (almost 4) has insisted we call her Topsy for the last 2 days! Oh and my DH is now called Tim too. I quite like it actually, the ordinary stuff. Like the washing on the airer indoors and the dog making a mess in next doors garden!

Important question however - does the Mummy ever get PMT?? She is far too happy for my liking!

Arabesque1 Tue 19-Nov-13 16:24:38

The books are sweet but I don't see why every good children's book has to be turned into a television programme.

nomeansno20 Wed 20-Nov-13 15:25:07

I want to thank CBEEBIES for topsy and tim series. Its the only time my hubby sits down with the kids. I'm sure its cos yummy mummy Anna Acton is so lush. I'm not jealous tho, its funny to see him perk up whenever she comes on screen. Anyone else becoming a Topsy and Tim widow? JJ

starlight1234 Wed 20-Nov-13 15:32:26

I didn't realise it was a TV program my DS now 6 made me read these over and over again..yes YABU turning it off as it isn't on for you

NarwhalKnickers Wed 20-Nov-13 15:47:39

I want to thank CBEEBIES for topsy and tim series. Its the only time my hubby sits down with the kids. I'm sure its cos yummy mummy Anna Acton is so lush. I'm not jealous tho, its funny to see him perk up whenever she comes on screen. Anyone else becoming a Topsy and Tim widow? JJ

...Anna is that you? wink

merrymouse Wed 20-Nov-13 21:01:02

Nothing happens in the books????!!!!

Maybe not the newer ones, but I still have the book where Topsy and Tim go on holiday to the Lake district, and nobody will take them hill walking so they decide to go on their own and they get lost. Eventually they find a shop in another village and I think they can remember the name of their hotel so their parents are tracked down.

I am sure they are spanked as punishment.

Having said that, I agree that I don't think they were all high drama.

We have the book with the birthday party. The most exciting thing that happens is that one of the kids arrives late! grin

Today's episode was hideous, yeah, let's all ignore mummy when she says no messy stuff! And DH was most concerned that when T&T got in the car the first time, there were no car seats, but when they got in two minutes later, there they were!

Snatchoo Thu 21-Nov-13 00:12:05

I loved the books as a child and remember reading about twenty in a row when I was about ten and getting ready for my dance show.

My ID bit twins love it, I like the normality of the situations but I found the whole cake and quad bike, and butterflies and dinosaurs thing really weird. Mum actually told Tim he wasn't allowed to do the cakes with the girls! It's so hard trying to explain to my boys that just because an advert is pink and only girls are in it doesn't mean the toy is only for girls - then this comes along a ruins all my good work!

HectorVector Thu 21-Nov-13 00:16:27

My DS (3) loves it... He's been talking about it all week and insisting he's Topsy and that we must call him Topsy.
And he seems to have become slightly concerned that we are going to move house.

MelodyB52 Thu 21-Nov-13 19:49:38

Think it's pretty crass that in a recession when money is tight for most people they are moving to a bigger house - AND a bigger garden.

AndThatsAnotherThing Thu 21-Nov-13 19:56:15

The way they've made the house look fake messy (washing drying in the lounge) is a bit annoying.

The DSs (5 and 7 - really quite old for it confused ) love it though.

GrendelsMum Thu 21-Nov-13 21:23:03

What's happened to Tansy?

I demand the return of Tansy!

Who was clearly only adopted because the parents have a name fetish.

beeny Thu 21-Nov-13 21:28:14

My kids love it, the mum is too cheery makes me feel bad.

Thesebootsweremadeforwalking Thu 21-Nov-13 21:34:39

My 5 year old absolutely loves it, not sure why as Dennis the Menace is more his thing nowadays. I love their ordinary house, too.

Housewife2010 Thu 21-Nov-13 22:20:22

My children & I love it. I think Tim is adorable too. The children get on so well though. I keep asking my two why they can't get on well like Topsy & Tim. They love the programme, call each other Topsy & Tim, then start fighting! BTW, I remember T & T's Friday book too where they dressed up as gypsies. Mummy made a paste of cocoa powder & water to darken their skin. After they'd eaten at the party they had a big white mark round their mouths where they'd licked it off.

loopsngeorge Thu 21-Nov-13 23:43:19

Merrymouse - Topsy and Tim go hill walking!! That was my all time favourite one and interestingly never reprinted, probably because of the mixed messages about running away from your parents! It ends up with Topsy and Tim sniggering because they had a great day, even though they were spanked and put to bed.

SheRaHasTheAnswer Fri 22-Nov-13 08:02:49

DoubleLifeIsALifeOfSorts you were not named but quoted on page 3 of The Sun today!

Apparently there have been lots of complaints about the programme.
<outs self as a Sun reader>

capercaillie Fri 22-Nov-13 08:11:34

I have a copy of topsy and Tim go hillwalking!

LaneyG0712 Fri 22-Nov-13 09:52:44

Personally, I have concerns for Tim's future after seeing this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB2J-Eq24PY

WhereIsMyHat Fri 22-Nov-13 10:03:35

My 3 year old loves it, really loves it. I'm sure Dad must be taking some kind of amphetamine, no one can be that jolly all the time.

Does anyone know what the mum has been in before, I recognise her but can't place where from.

dairyfreebabyandme Fri 22-Nov-13 10:07:24

Loved the books when I was little! My LO loves them too. The TV series is nothing like I would picture from having read the books, but my LO loves the programmes - watches them over and over on iplayer. Was the same with Peter Rabbit!

Glittermud Fri 22-Nov-13 10:10:12

The mother is a strange mix of saccharine charm and barely concealed irritation. I'm looking forward to 'Topsy & Tim: Mummy Goes Postal'

Bumpsadaisie Fri 22-Nov-13 10:11:58

My kids absolutely love it, so that's what counts.

I cannot STAND the word playdate. I feel the rage rising up!

tweetytwat Fri 22-Nov-13 10:13:25

It's horribly horribly sexist. I was really surprised that the BBC made this crap TBH. We generally love CBeebies here. I am not keen on all the programmes - some are a rather boring etc but harmless. But this was awful.

Yes yes to the really blatant sexism - was a bit stunned!

How about when poor ickle Mum had to call capable Dad to come home early from work to fix the leak, and then it was specified that Tim was going to help him while Topsy did something else more suited to the weaker sex.

And the car washing, with the Dad letting them have fun and get dirty and the Mum worrying about their precious clothes hmm

PS - just looked at the obligatory DM story based on this thread, and have to share this comment with you: "Mumsnet?? More like dimwit net." grin Barbed, I tell you.

my dd loves it

AugustaProdworthy Fri 22-Nov-13 10:31:32

My two DCs love it. I like that the stories are just normal everyday and people are polite and pleasant and the house looks normal.

AugustaProdworthy Fri 22-Nov-13 10:32:23

I do get confused though- how is Lee Mack's twin the Dad?

MaddAddam Fri 22-Nov-13 10:34:44

Merrymouse, my dc loved the 60s book "Topsy and Tim go hillwalking" because when they ran away the woman who looked after them said their father would "dust their breeches".

My dds played at dusting each other's breeches for years. Just the phrase could send them into hysterics.

niminypiminy Fri 22-Nov-13 10:38:17

My two boys, aged 10 and 7, love it. And given their other tv choices (sport for one, Great British Railway Journeys for the other) it's not because they always love toddler telly. I think children like seeing other children on tv, and something that looks a bit like a normal home, and fairly ordinary things happening.

PenguinsDontEatPancakes Fri 22-Nov-13 10:45:06

DD1 loves it.

I hate it due to the blatant sexism.

Playdate - girls have cupcakes to decorate, boys play with quadbike. Not only that, Tim asks to decorate a cupcake and Mummy says that they are only for Topsy and her friend and he goes off sad. Did prompt a discussion with DD1 about how that was rather silly because there were loads to go round and if she's let him join in they wouldn't have had the accident with the bike. But I don't think that that was some clever plan by the producers.

Likewise when there was a leak, Tim helps dad with the tile, Topsy does the washing with mum.

The new jeans one looked a bit suspect as well from the 10 seconds I saw.

Gives me the rage. Much prefer Sarah and Duck (quack).

AnneOfCleavage Fri 22-Nov-13 10:50:50

The one I saw with DD was them both helping dad wash the car. DD absolutely loves this program as she loved the books when young so it has fond memories. Both DH and I had the books too so we quite enjoy watching the odd episode.

DD has b/g twin cousins so she really relates to it despite being probably too old to watch it now in some peoples opinion.

Chockywockydoodah Fri 22-Nov-13 10:52:36

DD (3.8) LOVES it and watches it everyday and sings the theme tune by heart. DH even sat and watched it with her and sniggered at "Daddy's smelly football kit in the rucksack" when the estate agent came over.

Littlemisstax Fri 22-Nov-13 11:00:46

3yr old DD loves it and I'm encouraging the change from Peppa Pig but she wants Topsy's butterfly jeans and Tim's dinosaur ones - anyone know where they're from?

schmee Fri 22-Nov-13 11:17:09

I won't watch it because in the trailer Tim calls Topsy "Twin Topsy". No, her name is Topsy. 101 of twin parenting is don't call them "twin". Grrrrrrrrr.

GoofyIsACow Fri 22-Nov-13 11:39:21

grin at there being a DM story about this thread... <outraged>

eggsforbreakfast Fri 22-Nov-13 12:42:20

I personally find it nauseating but DD loves it. Am hopeful that she is learning good behaviour and manners from the impeccably behaved And compliant Topsy and Tim wink

kissmelittleass Fri 22-Nov-13 12:43:59

DD loves it and calls me to watch it with her, I quite like it tho and its dd's favourite programme already infact as soon as she's home from nursery she'sasking me when its on ;)

BeanoNoir Fri 22-Nov-13 12:52:35

This programme has replaced 'Justin's House' as the one dd wants to watch on repeat over and over again. At first I was delighted but now i'm starting to think back to Justin's house with a certain fondness. Maybe because it was three times as long so I could get more jobs done in one episode doesn't use tv as a babysitter ever oh no

BeanoNoir Fri 22-Nov-13 12:53:25

dd's also obsessed with the one t and t book we have. I may have to hide it soon.

naturelover Fri 22-Nov-13 12:55:39

I find the programme annoying but my children ADORE this programme. Not sure why but it has totally captured their imagination. They love the books too. I don't mind the books.

Cherrypie32 Fri 22-Nov-13 13:29:09

What's with the theme of moving house? They bang on about it in every episode I've seen.

I clearly have ishoos (because we moved quite a bit at T&T's age) but the housemoving subplot I find really quite upsetting. The house prospectus hidden under the sofa was just horrible.

DungunGirl Fri 22-Nov-13 13:52:05

My 4 year and 2 year old are obsessed with it! I don't have any strong feelings one way or another really.... if they like it, so be it!

nataliel26 Fri 22-Nov-13 14:16:57

Totally agree that people are missing the point. This programme is for young children and is based on the books from the 1960s. Its a very sweet and innocent programme. Nothing sexist about it at all.

Some adults are taking it too seriously and missing the point.

ZooCheur Fri 22-Nov-13 14:18:30

The kid loves it. I was less impressed that when there was a hole in the roof Topsy was watching her toy rabbit in the washer whilst Tim helped with the repairs - but it's on when I'm making tea so I haven't seen any others.

DancingLady Fri 22-Nov-13 14:24:14

DD (3) loves T&T and Katie Morag. Talks about them all the time, looks forward to watching... smile We have some of the T&T books too, and she loves those.

Bumpsadaisie Fri 22-Nov-13 14:28:40

TBH I am just pleased there is something new on Cbeebies - and drama as well. What other drama is there? Only Grandpa in my pocket springs to mind (and arrrggggghhh to that!)

PenguinsDontEatPancakes Fri 22-Nov-13 14:32:06

The fact that it is for young children is exactly why they should be extra careful about gender stereotypes. And books written decades ago are routinely updated- e.g for racism, for cultural reference points.

IfNotNowThenWhen Fri 22-Nov-13 14:32:16

Pah! If you want normal and everyday you want Postman Pat.
Lovely setting in Yorkshire <biased>, lots of friendly small talk (cheerio!). The books of Postman Pat are genius. I have been collecting them from charity shops for years. My favorite is one where Pat has a bit of a hunt for a child's missing dolly, and halfway through feels a bit hungry, so sits down on a hillside to eat his pack up, and then feels a bit sleepy so has a nap. No narrative point to that, just, you know, slow boring detail in a pleasant setting. Ah!
I think in that one, Pat find Ted Glens rabbiting knife down the side of Mrs Thompsons sofa, and Mrs Thompson looks a bit flustered...
I love any children's book where characters have rabbiting knives, me.

MoominMammasHandbag Fri 22-Nov-13 14:43:37

I always quite liked the fact that in the books Topsy was the feisty one whereas Tim was a bit of a wuss. I also remember quite a good one where they made friends with a little girl in a wheelchair.
I haven't seen the TV series though, mercifully our CBeebies days are behind us.

Dancergirl Fri 22-Nov-13 14:51:35

I thought it was going to be animated. Why not do that instead of bloody actors?!

There already is an animated series. I've got it on VHS somewhere, we loved it when the dds were small. Each episode was an animated version of one of the books.

BsshBossh Fri 22-Nov-13 14:52:41

It's the only show my 5yo DD will watch on CBeebies now. She loves it so that's fine with me (though when I watch it with her, the Dad in the show annoys the hell out of me!).

Dancergirl Fri 22-Nov-13 14:53:56

Maybe not the newer ones, but I still have the book where Topsy and Tim go on holiday to the Lake district, and nobody will take them hill walking so they decide to go on their own and they get lost. Eventually they find a shop in another village and I think they can remember the name of their hotel so their parents are tracked down

LOVED that one - it's a classic T and T smile

'Your dad will dust your breeches' smile

You forgot the bit with the dog, the shopkeepers manage to track down where they were staying by recognising the dog.

Dancergirl Fri 22-Nov-13 14:56:31

I've also got 2 very rare T and T books -

T and T in Belgium
T and T in Holland

Bet they'd fetch a fortune on Ebay now!

daughterofafarmer Fri 22-Nov-13 15:00:24

Loved the books growning up, DD (2.8) loves them too.

Can't stand the TV program, however DD loves it.

However I quite like the fact that the house is a tip, the walls at the top of the stairs are marked etc etc. The roof leaks, Dad keeps losing his keys, everyone speaks at once, child on sofa jumping with shoes on. It looks like a normal family home and not one 'made' for TV.

daughterofafarmer Fri 22-Nov-13 15:01:24

I agree Grandpa in my pocket...arghhhh! Acting is so bad.

Ticktock80 Fri 22-Nov-13 15:23:50

Haven't seen it. But just read the word "hubby". <wonders what mumsnet is coming too>

HappyHippyChick Fri 22-Nov-13 15:28:53

I won't watch it because in the trailer Tim calls Topsy "Twin Topsy". No, her name is Topsy. 101 of twin parenting is don't call them "twin". Grrrrrrrrr.

I'm not certain because I haven't seen that episode but I think they are talking to the life size cardboard cutout that they're holding as the 'twin Topsy' rather than actual Topsy.

Sophiathesnowfairy Fri 22-Nov-13 15:29:36

My DS loves it and I like the fact they have wet washing drying in the lounge just like me!

TheEponymousGrub Fri 22-Nov-13 16:10:04

Dropsy and Dim!! That is hilarious, Nennypops; love it.

Glittermud Fri 22-Nov-13 16:29:23

The sexism is awful and inexcusable in this day and age. I don't think that something is quality just because my kids love it either. They love picking their noses and hearing the word 'poo' too. Hardly discerning.

GreenShadowInTheLibrary Fri 22-Nov-13 16:34:07

Mine are too old to watch CBeebies so I didn't even realise it existed, but I've just caught an episode on iplayer and tbh, find it pretty typical of most the families I know.

OK, so maybe plenty of mums fix the leak in the ceiling and some dads do the washing or stay at home, but this is still not the norm. Children like to see what they experience at home and I'm sure mine would have loved this when younger.

Of course we still need some programs and books demonstrating girls and women doing DIY/going out to work etc and some SAHDs, but not all the time. There is room for a variety of different types of families on TV.

Having said that - OP, you are definitely NBU to hate Playdate!

ZooCheur Fri 22-Nov-13 16:34:57

I clearly remember a T&T book from when I was little where:

Topsy and Tim go away for the weekend with "Uncle Frank" - they travel in the sidecar of his motorbike, which back-fires a lot.

On the way they stop at a truckers cafe and sit on the knees of truck drivers who show them their trucks

Tim is allowed to eat too many crisps and goes green

Uncle Frank spends the entire story smoking a pipe

I hope they make that episode.

Quangle Fri 22-Nov-13 16:37:07

YANBU only because those parents are ridiculously jolly and always making things into games and pretending to be monsters and being fun. Sets a really bad example.

Dancergirl Fri 22-Nov-13 17:03:44

Too many sugar biscuits zoo

Stopputtingitoff Fri 22-Nov-13 17:13:50

Looking forward to the episode where they get gazumped buying their new house. Bet the Mum and Dad won't be so cheery then.

DoctorGilbertson Fri 22-Nov-13 17:27:29

oooh cbeebies is really good at the moment. We are really enjoying Topsy and Tim, and Katie Morag too.

Sixtiesqueen Fri 22-Nov-13 17:30:17

I think it's marvellous and so are the books. They are bloody tedious to read but they are safe and predictable and that's what little kids want.

TedbersMum Fri 22-Nov-13 17:38:46

My DS (nearly 4) loves watching this programme so I have satisfied myself with watching it purely to analyse what a perculiar household they are.

T&T's mother is either a secret alcoholic or is sniffing something in the kitchen cupboard...she is far too perky, jolly and relaxed to be a real mother of two active children.

She also seems to be suffering from some kind of cleanliness OCD, which is probably where Tim gets his neurotic/anxious side from. In my son's favourite episode they have Mossy the Dog (who belongs to hip modern grandmother Jean) for the day.

Tim put a bowl of water down for the dog and is then immediately instructed to "superwash your hands now" because he has touched the bowl. Tony Welch comes round to play and he and Topsy watch as Tim gives Mossy a dog biscuit. After which his mother instructs that ALL THREE OF THEM must now "go and double super wash" their hands. At this point the dog rolls a toilet roll down the stairs and Mummy grabs it, rolls up the bit that has come unravelled and rushes off to the kitchen saying "I'll have to throw this WHOLE toilet roll away now!"

Next they all get ready to take the dog for a walk and Mummy crouches down at Tim's eye level and says very earnestly "Now do you have the DOG POO bags that Grandma brought round Tim?". Tim looks all anxious and earnest back and rushes off to find them. Clearly an ASDA carrier bag isn't an option and no doubt the bags come with their own sterile gloves attached.

Major calamity then ensues when the phone rings, Mummy has to get it and - horror of horrors - the dog runs onto the next door garden and DOES A POO. You can virtually see Mummy hyperventilating as she says "GET ME THE POO BAG TIM!!!" and rushes off. Next minute she is back, insists they all go back inside (I think she needs to sit down to calm her nerves with something) and Mummy announces that she must now go and wash her hands (no doubt a double super double treble wash).

No wonder poor Tim can't even cope with wearing a new pair of jeans....

ZooCheur Fri 22-Nov-13 17:45:01

I stand corrected Dancegirl - I'd forgotten about "the gipsy people sitting on the steps of their caravans" too (have just fished the book out)

ZooCheur Fri 22-Nov-13 17:46:45

Also, in the original 'dentist' book they have Tansy their adopted/foster sister with them, and Roger smashes his tooth when he falls off the table in the dentist's waiting room because he was dancing on it. I notice the new book has no mention of either.

TedbersMum Fri 22-Nov-13 17:57:07

My favourite Topsy and Tim story as a child was the one where they learn to swim. I remember loving it so much because at the end Tim gets the biggest swirly colourful lollipop ever for finally managing to do it without his arm bands. It helped me love swimming as a child because every time I went to the pool I thought of that picture.

Imagine how gutted I was to get a more recent edition from a charity shop for my son and discover that it has since been updated so that Tim now just gets a certificate.....

directoroflegacy Fri 22-Nov-13 18:12:28

I want to be that calm, perky mum.
I was so shock at it that I sky plussed it to show dh.
But he was rather taken with the mum.
WHY did that Derek have to paint over the leak in T and T's room, couldn't they have done it themselves?
And WHY did it take him such a long time?

Also I hate the house - everything is so beige!!

feelingood Fri 22-Nov-13 18:17:49

i thort this twankishly twee.

Aintnobodylovesnanbetter Fri 22-Nov-13 18:20:35

I still have my collection of topsy and tim books which my dd loves.we have watched the tv programme and dd likes it but the mum and dad are so annoying

LauraChant Fri 22-Nov-13 18:25:11

I have the Belgium one.

Love that they haven't updated the names. You don't get many little Tony and Lindas nowadays do you? I think it was Linda anyway, may have misheard.

AryaUnderfoot Fri 22-Nov-13 18:30:49
gazzalw Fri 22-Nov-13 19:14:20

It seemed very slow when I watched it with DD - and I loved the books as a child many moons ago!

Pixielady83 Fri 22-Nov-13 19:18:13

Oh good. I've been looking for an outlet to rant about how annoying I am finding topsy and Tim. Mainly offended by the mother who is too thin and far too perky. Apart from that it is so dull! The only topsy and tim book we have is about going to the safari park which is significantly more engaging than the leaky roof episode. DD does love it though... Enjoying Katie morag far more, at least there is nice scenery and suitably harassed parents in that.

JamJarOfDaffs Fri 22-Nov-13 19:20:03

Commandershepard I agree, don't like the moving house theme dominating so much. Would be OK to feature it as issue and deal with the emotional side of it but this hasn't been done: when they found the house brochure under the sofa the little one who had hidden it because didn't want to move wasn't given comfort/ explanation?

I agree with what loads of people are saying on this thread: good to have ordinary life depicted but rubbish that they haven't updated the sexism!

Also I have to ask, since so many of you have read the books - did Topsy and Tim have "billycans" and what exactly were they? I might be getting muddled with another book (from memory 30 years later!) but those billycans seem so bizarre/ intriguing!!!

I am weirdly addicted to the theme tune and even listen to it at work sometimes. <blush> My DD(6) likes it - it is pretty boring and I don't like the mum much but I think it's fine. I really like that live in a normal house though. Katie Morag is brilliant, and I watch it wishing I could live there, my dd loves it too thankfully. Not so keen on Old Jack's boat though.

I love Cbeebies though and give thanks for it daily - Nina and the Neurons is worth the licence fee alone IMHO

yes to this too: Very OTT wasting a whole loo roll like that, the woman is totally strung out on something.

TedbersMum Fri 22-Nov-13 17:38:46
Tim put a bowl of water down for the dog and is then immediately instructed to "superwash your hands now" because he has touched the bowl. Tony Welch comes round to play and he and Topsy watch as Tim gives Mossy a dog biscuit. After which his mother instructs that ALL THREE OF THEM must now "go and double super wash" their hands. At this point the dog rolls a toilet roll down the stairs and Mummy grabs it, rolls up the bit that has come unravelled and rushes off to the kitchen saying "I'll have to throw this WHOLE toilet roll away now!"

FrameyMcFrame Fri 22-Nov-13 19:48:33

My bro invented a new series of books, Tipsy and Tom...they were always causing mayhem and confusion and tales of woe.

Sundaedelight Fri 22-Nov-13 19:58:50

HUGE triumph in our house. DC beg for it as soon as we get home. It's charming and they can relate to it.

HarrietJonesPrimeMinister Fri 22-Nov-13 20:01:32

It's so very angsty. I hate the sexism and big deal about the moving house will unsettle kids who previously hasn't thought about it.

ZooCheur Fri 22-Nov-13 20:02:56

Tedbersmum we have 'Learn to Swim' upstairs - will try to locate it later - I remember the lollipop, but the wall-mounted hairdriers with the tubes made the biggest impression on me.

I like the style of the older ones - in 'Paddling Pool' mum says she won't take T&T to the park as it's too far and too hot, but "Topsy and Tim stayed very close to mummy, in case she changed her mind" - the picture is of them climbing on the hoover I think.

PavlovtheCat Fri 22-Nov-13 20:05:42

I only saw the toilet roll episode and thought:
1. double Super Wash your hands. What the actual fuck? Made me feel a little but angry for some reason
2. I can't get my DDs hair to look topsy's, ever ever, suggesting they have hairspray end her hair to fuck, and no child is ever that neat and tidy for more than 5 mins.
3. The loo roll? What a waste! !

All on all, it's a shocking thing, get rid.

SteamWisher Fri 22-Nov-13 20:09:36

Nina and the Neurons is worth the licence fee alone IMHO

Agreed! Although DS calls it "Nina and the New Ones".

Topsy and Tim books are great - we've got some of the really olds ones (where Uncle Frank smokes) and the newer ones too. I've not been able to bring myself to watch the tv series though for fear of it being ruined for me but the DC keep asking for it.

HappyHippyChick Fri 22-Nov-13 20:11:34

Are there several other full T&T threads that I missed or are the "thousands" of mums complaining about its sexism (from Daily Fail article) just the 129 people on this thread!! hmm

KaseyM Fri 22-Nov-13 20:11:50

The Telegraph and the Fail! It's so weird how the press come here and take their material from our threads - it's like they're obsessed with us or something!!

Then everyone slags us off, when peeps were just having a chat on a social forum, I mean shish kebabs....

PavlovtheCat Fri 22-Nov-13 20:14:22

steam don't watch it. Your memories will be crushed.

Whistleforit Fri 22-Nov-13 20:14:37

I love it - it makes me fall asleep immediately & kids are distracted thus can barely comment on plot. But I HATE Gigglebiz (??) and so do the dcs so they wake me up. Does anyone's kids get spoofs of the Antiques frigging Road Show?? What am I missing here. Creepy, annoying, pointless.

Bedsheets4knickers Fri 22-Nov-13 20:20:46

this kills me my dp hates it even more. my 3 year old does watch it but then asks to watch mister maker after.

Bedsheets4knickers Fri 22-Nov-13 20:29:40

oh and when that dog knocked over marble run, WELL..... that just had me spitting feathers................ BUT..... In my honest opinion my 3 year old son is very dissmissive of our 1 year old daughter. Shes always cooed at him then started giggling at him, then started crawling and would approach him. he cant be quite standoffish towards her. she now keeps her distance from him. Its makes me sad. I try to encourage my son to watch this topsy and tim to help me re-enforce how siblings would live in an ideal world.

SteamWisher Fri 22-Nov-13 20:57:07

Pavlov but I really want to now after this thread!

SteamWisher Fri 22-Nov-13 20:58:32

Bedsheets - my 4 and 2 year old are like that sometimes, but we get them to play together and they're much better. I leave them to it sometimes,and encourage DS to help her etc etc (he's the oldest). Maybe, not to patronise, but show him how to interact with her.

Zappo Fri 22-Nov-13 21:54:58

I like it. We are in the middle of moving. We do have that Galt Marble run. We are going to get DC pets when we move to the new house.

However, I am not anywhere near as chilled/groomed as the mum.
DH is not a buffoon.

BikeRunSki Fri 22-Nov-13 22:00:18

I remember the books as a child, and I also rememver my mum saying how dire they were.

I now agree!

mistermakersgloopyglue Fri 22-Nov-13 22:05:19

I saw the dinosaur/butterfly jeans episode and my first thought was 'they won't like that on mumsnet' grin

What is Topsy a nickname for?

Astr0naut Fri 22-Nov-13 22:25:43

ds (4) loves it almost as much as gigglebiz. I haven't actually watched an episode, but I do vaguely remember the books. and at least it means grandpa isn't putting his sodding shrinking cap on every night.

Dancergirl Fri 22-Nov-13 22:35:24

Yes zoo to paddling pool smile And she did change her mind.

Anyone got foggy day? Obviously before H and S, they sit around the open fire at Miss Maypole's (great name) nursery school while the fog lifts.

EugenesAxe Fri 22-Nov-13 23:05:56

I like it simply because my two children (3.10 and 2) love it. The caveat is that I haven't sat through that many of the episodes.

From the brief amount I have seen, I find the mother too OCD - that dog one I was getting well tired of her saying 'wash your hands' after touching the damned dog. And I am someone who is not very sentimental about pets and who always hand-washes after touching dogs. Also I was a bit hmm about the slightly mauled toilet paper going in the bin. I would have just brushed it down a bit, used fresh sheets for my lady parts and the ravaged element for my arse. Maybe I would have got worms somehow, but fuck it - I hate waste.

I love the books... my DS (the elder) does a great impression of me doing an impression of a Texan accent when they meet Mr Jumbo in '...Visit The Tower of London'. And I'm kind of immune to the gender bias... I am currently reading an original version of 'The Magic Faraway Tree' in chapters to DS; so I'm already doing a virtual self-flagellation for exposing him to an extreme one.

jaundicedoutlook Fri 22-Nov-13 23:22:30

Not seen the programme yet, but DD can't get enough of the book where both of the little horrors are infested with head lice...

hottea7 Sat 23-Nov-13 00:06:36

Mine love it! Their most favourite book is topsy and tim have a birthday party and daddy nicks a sausage, I have to pretend the mummy goes mental screaming at daddy for eating all the party food, I think if they make that into an episode the kiddies are going to be a tad disappointed

Marzipanface Sat 23-Nov-13 00:32:11

My three year old thinks it is crap.

Offred Sat 23-Nov-13 09:36:20

It is awful. Not only for the sexism but the completely unrealistic portrayal of family relationships, the creepy painted on smiles and relentlessly fake enthusiasm. It is a really toxic show. Unfortunately my 7 year old dd loves it and I won't ban it but I'll only allow her to watch it with supervision and a lot of discussion over what is wrong with it and why. Terrible terrible decision by the BBC.

BigToesofFrog Sat 23-Nov-13 09:38:33

tedbersmum I had the swimming one too - it was my only tipsy and Tim book - and I remember that lolly in vivid detail too!

However it really bugged me because it was a competition and TIM didn't win, he got the lolly as a consolation prize for not using armbands. But the spectacular lolly was much bigger and better than the actual first prize!

Not that it matters, but I remember feeling very miffed that my parents would not engage with me about the injustice of it. I was so sorry for the actual winner who had to see tim get the amazing loly.

I think this might say more about me than t&t...

I have only seen bits of the programme and obviously it's nothing like the books, and dd has not really taken to it. But what a shame it's sexist. There's absolutely no excuse whatsoever. All it takes is a bit of thought, and it's so important.

CBBC should really have a consultant who simply checks every script for sexist tosh. It's not that hard FGS.

threepiecesuite Sat 23-Nov-13 09:54:24

My 3yo dd absolutely loves it. We have a few of the books too and she loves them. I like that its set on a normal looking 70s estate and they live in a normal sized house with washing drying in ths lounge.

When is Katie Morag on? I think she'd like that too.

TeacupDrama Sat 23-Nov-13 10:14:08

sunday 5.30;pm for katie morag

ironman Sat 23-Nov-13 11:45:10

I have have watched Topsy and Tim. Harmless children's programme.
I never took any notice tbh as I believe, to may other important issues around such as the invasion of the Bulgarians and Romanians!

GreenShadowInTheLibrary Sat 23-Nov-13 15:10:22

'Toxic' Offred ! Hardly.

It shows what is normal for hundreds of thousands of children in Britain today.

Yes, of course there is a place to educate children into gender equality, but it doesn't need to be forced down their throats every minute of the day.

NellysKnickers Sat 23-Nov-13 15:34:36

Oh FFS. Sexist indeed. Ds2 loves it, so do I. It's very sweet and nicely done. So there.

PenguinsDontEatPancakes Sat 23-Nov-13 17:10:05

It isn't even about educating children in gender equality though. It is about being smart enough not to build obvious stereotypes and inequality into the show. I would hope for a start that there aren't many families where a brother who wants to join in with cake decoration isn't told it is only for his sister. sad

HarrietJonesPrimeMinister Sat 23-Nov-13 17:13:37

What Penguins said!

more eloquently than I was going to

PenguinsDontEatPancakes Sat 23-Nov-13 17:21:15

Thanks Harrietsmile Except for my is/isn't typoblush

HarrietJonesPrimeMinister Sat 23-Nov-13 17:36:31

smile still more eloquent been on the mulled wine all day

PenguinsDontEatPancakes Sat 23-Nov-13 17:51:56

envy Very envious. No mulled wine for me this year Don't think it will appeal as much in May when I've had the baby and can drink again...

Offred Sat 23-Nov-13 18:55:51

Exactly, nothing to do with educating children about gender equality. A lot to do with not promoting gender inequality to vulnerable preschoolers. Why have they taken out the racism but not the sexism?

Offred Sat 23-Nov-13 18:59:03

Those saying it is sweet, sweet in what way exactly? I don't think 'sweet' is about forcing children into proscribed gender roles from preschool age. Yes a lot of the sexism shown in the school (and abnormally twee family relationships to a lesser extent) are normal/desirable in a lot of families, however that doesn't mean the show is not promoting toxic stereotypes/values to children.

Offred Sat 23-Nov-13 19:01:58

*Show

eggsforbreakfast Sat 23-Nov-13 20:13:51

What bothers me is the fact they have carpet in their kitchen

Curbyourlassitude Sat 23-Nov-13 20:33:18

Yes lets have a healthy dose of reality. Siblings screaming and fighting, exhausted parents, extended breastfeeding, parents sleeping in separate rooms

At least the house is messy and cramped. I hate these show homes everyone seems to live in

YesAnastasia Sat 23-Nov-13 21:07:58

Well it makes me cry - in a 'it's lovely' way. I always cry at happy families.

And I fancy the Dad.

DancingLady Sat 23-Nov-13 21:40:23

eggs yes I can't get past that! Carpet in the kitchen FFS!

I haven't noticed any sexism yet but maybe I'm not looking hard enough... Or I haven't seen enough episodes.

HarrietJonesPrimeMinister Sun 24-Nov-13 07:17:37

I'm waiting for the 'and that's when mum said she'd have to go to work to pay for the new mortgage' or 'and that's when Mum said we were moving to a new house because it had been repossessed '

bushmills Sun 24-Nov-13 08:48:56

My DD who is 3.5 loves it. Fills a gap between dinner and bath time. Gigglebiz at 5.15pm followed by Topsy and Tim = calm relaxed household.

It was never going to replace the books, nor do I think it was its intention, but it's something new which is a good thing. Was getting tired of Grandpa in my Pocket.

GoofyIsACow Sun 24-Nov-13 10:26:11

Now Katie Morag... We LOVE that here!

Every time KM signals her Granny Island with her torch before she goes to bed, i get rather teary. I'd LOVE to live on Struay (even though it doesn't really exist)

HappyHippyChick Sun 24-Nov-13 21:57:58

OMG Katie Morag today where they were looking for Izzy and it was the mum made me bawl! Disclaimer - pregnancy hormones at work!

bushmills Mon 25-Nov-13 13:01:20

Thumbs up for KM from us too! Pity it's only on Sundays. What about Swashbuckle!!!!!! Love it

bloosn Mon 25-Nov-13 18:58:15

Hmmm... my 2 1/2 year old daughter loves it, she even has her favourite episodes...
Not sure why everything must be "real"..has anyone seen Peppa Pig..?
Well done the Beeb!

YesAnastasia Mon 25-Nov-13 23:25:57

No HappyHippy looking for Izzy made me cry too. Only I thought she was going to be that granny's dead child. I said to DH 'this is bit dark for cbeebies'

Topsy's friends name is Vinda, not Linda! grin

LauraChant Tue 26-Nov-13 11:32:44

Oh OK, I thought I might have misheard! grin

T&T's mum has tool box shocker - she capably removed that door handle and saved the day. Can we forgive her now?

As for Katie Morag and looking for Izzy, I too thought that Izzy was a dead child - thank god it wasn't - too traumatic. Still made me cry at the end.

Wish they would come up with a replacement for ITNG - I've never liked it.

DH was raging today about there not actually being a lock on the bathroom door and WTF would removing the door handle do grin

DoubleLifeIsALifeOfSorts Wed 27-Nov-13 16:51:47

Hey I got quoted in the Daily Fail and the Sun [cries]

Ah medja fame at last!

Kathkiddingme Thu 28-Nov-13 18:26:58

Good grief. What a lot of fuss! So what if the Mum is weirdly happy - funnily enough most children don't want to watch a programme about a stressed out semi-alcoholic mother who shouts at her children all day.

So what - the dad washes the car and the mum makes cakes. I can imagine that happens in many, many families, my husband wouldn't have a clue where to start with a cake tin. I know plenty of little boys who like pink, and girls who play with dinosaurs who yet still manage to enjoy Topsy and Tim. It's NICE. What is wrong with NICE. We need more of it in the world. My gender stereotypes came from observing my parents, not the harmless twaddle I watched on tv as a child.

Offred Thu 28-Nov-13 18:29:48

I don't think there's anything nice about it. I think it is creepy. Like the button eye parallel universe in coraline.

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naysayer Tue 03-Dec-13 18:10:32

I have had to post as, for about the dozenth time since this programme started, DD has whimpered with the puppy eyes about wanting a brother or sister. I'm seriously thinking of stopping her watching it as I don't need this guilt trip every night about a pair of weird opposite sex siblings who, in real life, would not be this chummy, all the time, at their age.

Getting so fed up of 'when we move house' storyline too, in fact tonight I realised we were back to the first episode when Stepford mum whined to her husband about needing a bigger house - last week it was on the market and they were preparing for viewers - WTF?

Agree with Offred how creepy it is. Hate the way it masquerades as fly on wall real-time filming when they have all been carefully selected as actors. DD was perfectly happy with Grandpa in My Pocket and frankly, so was I.

Feel for me people! DD has been ill for 3 days and we actually RECORDED this rubbish. It's been on non-stop! Argghh! It is however my justification for spending so much time on mumsnet over the past 2 days! Cuddled up with DD on the sofa grin
When are we going to move house Mummy? Why aren't we moving house Mummy? etc, etc

JacobBurns Tue 10-Dec-13 17:55:31

I watched three episodes back to back with my girl and boy last night. They loved it. Yes, the adult actors are naff. I don't see what all the fuss is about except that I do agree that it was weird that Tim wasn't allowed to decorate the cakes.

Lisah1987 Tue 17-Dec-13 20:19:06

This post is ridiculous! 90% of the parents are more hung up on how "they" loved the books as children but the program has ruined it for them. This programme is not intended for parents! Which is why so many of you are saying "I hate it but my DS loves it, of course!" This programme will be for your children what the books were for you. I'm not particularly fond of the programme but I love how much my son enjoys it because after all it is for him not me! As for using the term "play date" are you serious? And apart from the ONE episode it is hardly sexist!

Lisah1987 Tue 17-Dec-13 20:34:47

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Offred Tue 17-Dec-13 21:13:01

It was more than one episode, but don't you think one episode promoting stereotypes even the bbc itself seems to accept are damagingly sexist is one episode too much considering this is aimed at preschoolers. I didn't enjoy the books btw personally.

Offred Tue 17-Dec-13 21:15:18

And if they have censored the racism in order to comply with their guidelines on protecting vulnerable children then why have they left the sexism in? Do women's rights matter less to them? That's the impression I'm getting and quite frankly I can't help thinking this has a political element to it given the Tories' fetish for patriarchy.

Offred Tue 17-Dec-13 21:17:25

Children enjoying the show is neither here nor there. My little ones liked it but I felt that was even worse because the effect of the promotion of sexism will be magnified if the show is attractive to children. That is one reason why they have the guidelines after all.

NoMoreMuddyTrousers Tue 17-Dec-13 22:38:41

Mine love it, and we are in the process of building a marble run that will go down the stairs all due to this programme! Blue Peter eat your heart out...

Vickisuli Wed 22-Jan-14 21:39:11

My lot love the (boring plotless) books and TV series and I think it's ok with occasional annoying moments.

What's annoying me at the moment is they showed what about 10 episodes, and then repeated them, and then stopped showing it! ARGH. My 7 year old is desperate to see the one where they move house, which I (stupidly) told her would be bound to be coming up.

Re the sexism, the cupcake thing was a bit silly, but otherwise, it reflects real 5 year olds pretty well - most girls really do like butterflies, most boys really do prefer dinosaurs. I'm not saying they all should or do, but I think a programme where they constantly gender swap just for the sake of it would be wearing. "Tim chose the pink cup. Topsy played with her trucks. Tim wore mummy's dress and Topsy dressed up as Spiderman." Personally I think that would smack of trying too hard, AND be unrealistic.

In my wide experience of pre-school/school age kids, most girls love pink, most boys love cars. Sorry if you don't like it but that's the way it is, just like you probably enjoy a manicure or facial more than your DH would, and you probably have less interest in football/motorbikes than he does.

Anyway, I just want to know when they are showing more episodes, as according to wikipedia they made 66!!!! Why did they only show 10 or so?

lewisandclarke Thu 17-Jul-14 19:41:33

Are you saying that boys and girls are hardwired differently then? Because, if not, then the pink and butterflies crap is all about socialisation and therefore we could and should begin to redress it using children's shows. Accepting that we don't like something but that is "just the way it is" seems to be avoiding responsibility.

LabMonkey Thu 17-Jul-14 21:10:19

I'm not a fan but my DD(3) likes it. I assumed that when Tim wasn't allowed to decorate a cake it was because he was meant to be playing with his friend in the garden rather than going off in a strop to play with his sister.

warcraft1 Tue 22-Jul-14 17:24:38

In the very first episode of season 1 New Clothes Topsy asked her mum when we moved into our new house can i have Butterfly wall paper like my new butterfly jeans and her mum said yes Topsy of course you can, now the new house in season 2 episode 1 Topsy has pirate wallpaper in her room, this was a hard question to answer when my daughter who is a big fan of the show asks me why she has pirate wall paper when she asked for Butterflies, it seems the BBC show has not done their homework, but like i said my daughter loves it, only thing that irritates her is that they have to say Topsy and Tim after everything they say, i do also find this annoying, and they need to start school soon because they are far to old for Nursery.

squirrel996 Tue 22-Jul-14 18:04:54

It was quite good the other day when Topsy could ride a bike and Tim couldn't and fell off!

Housewife2010 Tue 22-Jul-14 18:08:35

Warcraft, The pirate wallpaper was already in the new house. They haven't redecorated yet.

chl0e123 Fri 01-Aug-14 12:18:34

are you aure about that housewife, looks to me like the parents decorated their rooms for them, but i will give it time and watch the new episodes to see if they re decorate their bedrooms and the butterfly wallpaper appears

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