So, who's seat is it ?

(124 Posts)
Trifle Sat 02-Nov-13 01:41:52

We booked a package holiday for a week but dp's work wanted him to return a day early to attend a conference so his work paid for him to fly back on his own.

As we had paid for 4 allocated seats (2 seats in one row and two in the row behind), was I within my rights to insist on using dp's allocated seat so that I got more room to spread out?

The aisle seat also happened to be free so it appeared that there were 2 seats free in the row. Several people seemed to think his 'spare' seat was theirs for the taking until I politely informed them that only the aisle seat was available.

Am I right or wrong ?

Giyadas Sat 02-Nov-13 01:48:40

Aren't all plane seats allocated? Why would people try to sit in your allocated seats? Am I missing something?
If you've paid for the seat it's yours.

LoopaDaLoopa Sat 02-Nov-13 01:49:18

You may be right but you are also selfish.

Strumpetron Sat 02-Nov-13 01:53:49

If you've paid it's yours but you must have more money than sense. And if it's allocated why would they try to take it?

Strumpetron Sat 02-Nov-13 01:54:25

Sorry ignore more money than sense, for some reason I thought you'd bought two seats each!

Trifle Sat 02-Nov-13 01:59:24

The people who tried to take it were a family with an infant who had 2 seats between the 3 of them. Taking my 'paid for but unused seat' plus the spare aisle seat would give them all a seat each.

Giyadas Sat 02-Nov-13 02:05:31

Well that changes things a bit. The seat's still yours but to let them use it would have been the decent thing imo.

Strumpetron Sat 02-Nov-13 02:11:44

Well as a poster made me aware of in the last post, parents aren't allowed to buy a seat for a child under a certain age. It would have been decent of you to let them have the seat. You weren't going to use it originally so it doesn't make much difference.

Strumpetron Sat 02-Nov-13 02:12:34

I honestly don't know how I'd go about explaining why I didn't want them to have the seat.

MidniteScribbler Sat 02-Nov-13 02:23:02

So there were three of you, but you insisted on sitting two in one row and then taking up two seats in a second row, while a couple with a toddler had to sit in separate rows? Well that's a particularly special brand of selfish.

Why didn't you sit in one row with your children and let them have a row to themselves?

AngusAndElspethsThistleWhistle Sat 02-Nov-13 02:23:29

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Strumpetron Sat 02-Nov-13 02:28:51

Not only would I have given them the spare seat, I'd have moved so they could all sit together.

What happened to helping people sad

I do appreciate you paid for it, but seriously?

cafecito Sat 02-Nov-13 02:33:15

whose seat is it?

depends where your moral compass lies. I'd argue that one person's irritation is outweighed by the discomfort and distress faced by 2 + a toddler.

DropYourSword Sat 02-Nov-13 02:36:20

One of them could have say in the spare aisle seat and the other could have stayed in their original seats with their DC and you still could have had your own and your DPs seat to spread out in! Everyone's a winner.

HicDraconis Sat 02-Nov-13 03:08:48

2+ toddler don't need to face discomfort and distress if they book and pay for a child's seat for their toddler. You don't need to pay the 2-12yo fare for an under 2 but if you pay the lower under 2 fare, you should expect to have the infant on someone's lap the entire flight. If you pay the higher fare, the toddler gets his or her own seat.

People pay the lower fare and then hope for an empty seat or that people will move to accommodate them so their child can have it's own seat without them having had to pay for it.

OP, the seat was yours. However I don't see why one of the 3 couldn't have sat in your spare aisle seat and the other one plus toddler in their original seats - so everyone has a seat without encroaching on your spare paid-for one.

mayorquimby Sat 02-Nov-13 03:52:14

You're dead right

livinginwonderland Sat 02-Nov-13 07:55:27

Not all airlines LET you book seats for toddlers under a certain age, Hic. Sometimes you can only book a seat if the child is over a certain age.

handcream Sat 02-Nov-13 08:20:27

How would the family with the toddler know that the seat had been paid for by you. When you get on a plane and the plane is seated LOTS of people look around and see if there are empty seats. Unlike trains they aren't marked 'reserved'

Finola1step Sat 02-Nov-13 08:26:26

Yes, how would other people know? Did you tell them or expect them to work it out?

You may not be wrong in that you had paid for two seats so should be able to use them both. But in this situation, it would have been nice to give up your spare seat to the other family.

MrsDarylDixon Sat 02-Nov-13 08:27:26

Well there's no doubt it was your seat since you paid for it but I think you were a teensy bit selfish by not letting the other people with a toddler use it.

I think the world would be a much nicer place if more people had a bit more consideration for others. What goes around comes around and all that.

howmuchwouldyoutake Sat 02-Nov-13 08:29:27

Yes, it was 'your seat' but you were incredibly selfish not to let them use it.

FannyFifer Sat 02-Nov-13 08:33:55

Seriously? biscuit

Stravy Sat 02-Nov-13 08:41:10

You are technically right. Whether you want to be decent or whether you want to be right is the question I'd be asking myself if I were you.

londonrach Sat 02-Nov-13 08:42:26

I always thought airplanes over booked seats. I think its in the terms and conditions that the air staff reserve the right to move you. You bought a ticket to fly not the seat. Your husband waived that right by flying another day. It was mean of you not to let someone sit in it that needed it. Or maybe im been flying easy jet too much.....

nennypops Sat 02-Nov-13 08:43:01

From what you say, the couple with the toddler had two seats, plus there was a spare aisle seat they could use. Why therefore did they want a fourth seat?

nicename Sat 02-Nov-13 08:44:02

They do overbook! That's why it's a nightmare at Christmas and new year, when far fewer people drop a flight.

lisad123everybodydancenow Sat 02-Nov-13 08:46:38

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

jedishelly1 Sat 02-Nov-13 08:47:33

*whose

You were not being unreasonable. You were however being a bit selfish.

ShinyBlackNose Sat 02-Nov-13 08:49:43

Technically you were in the right. Socially, morally, I think you should be questioning your decision.

I don't think you can book a 2-12 yo ticket for a 2.11 yo toddler. The details on the ticket need to match the passport.

Caitlin17 Sat 02-Nov-13 08:51:38

I'm not sure it was"your seat" from the point your husband didn't check in. Airlines do over book as they know there will be no shows.

I do think you were selfish. I couldn't imagine going through the rigmarole of explaining the seat was taken by , to anyone who asked, my imaginary, invisible travelling companion.

ThisWayForCrazy Sat 02-Nov-13 08:53:22

Hic, we flew with an under 2 and and over 2 this summer. The over 2 had a seat. The under 2 was not allowed one, we couldn't even pay for it. It cost us MORE for the under 2 than the over 2!!

I can't understand how anyone could justify not allowing a family with a toddler using a seat that was spare. So what if you paid for it? No one was sat in it?? Morally it's a bit of a grim thing to do.

TwoMuchTwoYoung Sat 02-Nov-13 08:55:37

So you would rather a toddler had to sit on their parents knee for the whole flight rather than use a seat that you wanted to put your bag on?
Totally and utterly selfish.
Hope you're pleased with your little self.

SidandAndyssextoy Sat 02-Nov-13 08:56:32

Yes, I don't get how it was 'your' seat if your husband didn't check in.

I think you were completely unreasonable and the sort of selfish person that makes life a bit harder for other people. I tell my kids that kind is the most important thing to be.

VeryStressedMum Sat 02-Nov-13 09:03:21

This is not a serious thread biscuit

Jolleigh Sat 02-Nov-13 09:55:49

It's not your seat. It was allocated to your husband who didn't check in, therefore the seat had technically been released.

Would you expect the airline to reserve seats for a whole family who didn't check in?

This is precisely why airlines overbook.

If I were the couple, I'd have plonked the toddler right next to you, sat next to them in the aisle seat and waited with a smug grin on my face while you called a member of the flight crew who'd have said the same thing.

Repeatedlydoingthetwist Sat 02-Nov-13 10:01:19

I don't get it? Why didn't they just use the aisle seat and their own two seats?

Stravy Sat 02-Nov-13 10:07:36

I imagine they didn't book allocated seats so the 'free' aisle seat was there seat, if they sat in it.

ConfusedDotty Sat 02-Nov-13 10:10:01

YABU. I would have given the seat up and I done exactly this a few weeks back. DP and I were travelling and had four paid for seats between the two if us (not more money than sense, it was due to me having a broken leg hmm). As it turned out we only needed three seats. There was a very tall gentleman crammed into his seat so we offered him the extra legroom empty seat. He was very grateful and it was no skin off our nose.

I think you were a little selfish IMO.

redshifter Sat 02-Nov-13 10:12:25

I can see your point OP but rightly or wrongly, technically if you don't check in, you lose rights to the seat. I think.

Though it made me think. Say someone did have more money than sense, would they be able to book 2 seat for just themself? Does anyone know?
Just curious?

MadeOfStarDust Sat 02-Nov-13 10:12:49

It is not your seat unless you have a boarding card for that seat.

If he had checked in then not travelled with you, you are legally obliged to inform the boarding desk when you get there that he is not travelling as part of your party and thus he will not be on the passenger manifest... they would withdraw the boarding card.

So it was not your seat unless you transferred the ticket into YOUR name so that you personally held 2 seats.

Therefore you were wrong and YABU..

mercibucket Sat 02-Nov-13 10:13:31

it was the airline's seat

its not like a train

HaroldLloyd Sat 02-Nov-13 10:13:51

I would not expect the seat in this scenario, your husband didn't book in, the seat I would imagine had been lost.

Not sure why you'd need a spare anyway tbh?

So you left them with the toddler sat on their knee while you had an empty unused seat beside you? You're just lovely aren't you... hmm

bridgetsmum Sat 02-Nov-13 10:20:03

As your DH didn't check in for the flight he would be classed as a "no show" and his allocated seat would have been released. Unless you specifically bought, paid for and had an "extra seat" boarding card issued then it was NOT your seat to use.
You were U and very selfish and wrong to assume the seat was yours

mirandabee Sat 02-Nov-13 10:20:25

yabu

DowntonTrout Sat 02-Nov-13 10:21:56

Actually we have had this happen a few times. If you choose not to fly the seat is no longer yours and will be reallocated if needs be. Just because you paid for it- if you do not travel- the seat is free.

A group of us were travelling once and one person did not fly. Their seat happened to be a middle seat. Lo and behold, someone came along who had been allocated the "spare" middle seat. We all just moved around as that would have been silly.

It sounds like you checked in online- did you then check in baggage? The airline would then know one of you were not flying. However, if the other family have 2 allocated seats and were just presuming to be able to use the spare seat, it's slightly different. But it is just that, a spare seat, not your seat.

Rufus44 Sat 02-Nov-13 10:24:28

Agree with nenny I'm a bit confused about that

It's your seat so do what you want with it, might have been nice to offer it though

If its that discomforting and distressing to fly with a toddler on your lap then don't bloody do it

mirandabee Sat 02-Nov-13 10:24:44

I'm surprised the cabin crew didn't intervene, OP

bridgetsmum Sat 02-Nov-13 10:26:52

Rufus it was not op's seat, her DH failed to check in, therefore he was a no show and his allocated seat was released.

octopusinastringbag Sat 02-Nov-13 10:27:16

If the airline give you a refund then the seat is their seat. Otherwise you have paid for the seat and can use it, though I think it would be very petty not to let a toddler sit there if the alternative is them being on their parent's knee all the way back. It's pretty selfish IMO.

You paid for 4 seats, and, I presume, had 4 allocated to you? So that seat is yours.

The different question that you have not asked here, and the crux of the matter, is WYBU to not give up this seat so that the couple with an infant could use it, despite the fact that you have paid for it.

For me it depends on how they asked, how long the flight was ect.

The couple with the child made the choice not to buy a ticket for their baby, and knew they would have to have them on their lap. They saw an opportunity in the empty seat and want to use it.

I wouldn't say you would have been massively unreasonable not to give it up - depending on how much it would inconvenience you, and any other reasons you might have had.

However, I'd like to think giving it up would have been the kind and charitable thing to do, and something that I hope I would consider. We're all people who struggle with things at times, and it's nice to think we would help each other out.

However - if the couple were rude about it any way, or acting entitled about it, then this makes me see red, so I would say definitely YANBU for not giving up the seat.

Quoteunquote Sat 02-Nov-13 10:30:49
bridgetsmum Sat 02-Nov-13 10:30:56

Octopus that is not how it works.
I worked at Heathrow for years.
If a passenger is a no show the airline can use the seat. This is how overbooking works. On every flight there are no shows, not always enough so sometimes the airline offers denied boarding compensation.
But if you don't turn up for a flight, your seat isn't left empty if the airline or other passengers need it

DowntonTrout Sat 02-Nov-13 10:34:19

No. You do not have to have a refund for it to become the airlines seat.

A no show is a no show. Booking an extra seat, for comfort reasons, a wedding dress, or for an under two is different.

I think you would find, if the flight was very busy, the seat would have been allocated to someone else. There could be no argument then. As it was, the seat was "spare" and by not flying the OPs DH had no claim on it.

lottiegarbanzo Sat 02-Nov-13 10:34:51

His allocated seat would have been reclassified after he didn't check in I think, so not yours anymore. If not, then yes, it was yours.

Your description of the situation of the family with infant doesn't makes sense. They had two seats, could have taken a third but wanted a fourth? For whom? Why didn't you give them your row of three, so they could sit with the infant between them, while you took their two seats (presumably next to each other?). Winners all round.

How this actually works and how bothered you might have been about it depends on the length of the flight and type of airline.

If it was transatlantic then seats are strictly allocated and controlled by the airline and people would generally check with cabin staff about empty seats, or staff would intervene if confusion arose.

If it was Easyjet etc then people are all trying to pile into the best seats, many are not pre-allocated and of course you'd have to explain how you were able to control an empty seat.

If only a two or three hour flight, the desire to spread out can't really have been so strong or overriding as it would have been for a 6-10 hour flight.

manicinsomniac Sat 02-Nov-13 10:36:41

At the start of the thread I thought that the seat was yours but the nice thing to do would have been to give it up.

From reading other posts I've now learned that the seat was nobody's and you should certainly have given it up.

Stravy Sat 02-Nov-13 10:37:28

We don't know if the couple with the toddler chose to not buy a 3rd seat or if the airline didn't let them. It seems a bit harsh to say that people with children under 2 should never fly with airlines who don't allow babies to buy seats. Sometimes you need to go where that airline flies to. I don't especially mind having a child on my knee but it's galling that you can't use an empty seat because an adult wants to spread out more.

octopusinastringbag Sat 02-Nov-13 10:39:45

bridgetsmum then the seat should have been given up.

bridgetsmum Sat 02-Nov-13 10:41:53

Exactly octopus,
The seat wasn't OP's to decide who sat there.

SoupDragon Sat 02-Nov-13 10:43:49

The people who tried to take it were a family with an infant who had 2 seats between the 3 of them. Taking my 'paid for but unused seat' plus the spare aisle seat would give them all a seat each.

How does this add up? They are 3 people with two seats. They take the free aisle seat which gives them a seat each. If they took your DHs unused seat too that gives them 4.

DamnBamboo Sat 02-Nov-13 10:44:32

If the person for whom the seat was booked, was not on the flight, then clearly there ceases to be 'ownership' of that seat!

YABU

PrincessFlirtyPants Sat 02-Nov-13 10:45:41

Surely reverse AIBU?

SidandAndyssextoy Sat 02-Nov-13 10:47:22

In the past, I've not paid for an under-2 seat on the basis that I'd cope with them on my lap but an empty seat would be a happy bonus. If there was an empty seat and someone was insisting it 'belonged' to them, and I therefore had my toddler on my lap, I would think they were very silly and selfish, although obviously would have no right to that seat. Given that airlines do tend to charge something for an under-2, you could argue that the parents had more right to what was actually just an unallocated seat than an imaginary person who had flown the day before.

SarahBumBarer Sat 02-Nov-13 10:48:43

Not every airline overbooks - Ryanair for example do not. You can buy an extra seat too and had I bought an extra seat I would be a bit cross at being expected to give it up to anyone.

However in this case your DH's seat was not an extra seat in your name - it was the seat of a no-show (unless you had in fact transferred it), and if the airline wanted to use it they were at liberty to do so and you had no greater right to use it than anyone else.

Rufus44 Sat 02-Nov-13 10:48:44

bridgetsmum I understand that but it wasn't the toddlers seat either, if the OP was there first then she took possession (wrongly but it happens)

I think that the OP should have offered it to the toddler family, that would have been the nicest thing to do..

.I would have offered it, I don't think it's distressing having a toddler on your lap but it is a pain in the butt!

bridgetsmum Sat 02-Nov-13 10:57:15

Rufus

You can't "bagsy" empty seats on an aircraft.
The only way to take possession of a seat is to sit in it.

janey68 Sat 02-Nov-13 10:57:48

I'm finding it difficult to add this up... It still seems as though the family with the toddler would have already had enough seats without claiming the extra one? I think the OP needs to come back and explain!

I think technically the seat belongs to the airline for a no show (it sounds as though the OP didn't transfer the seat to her own name, which presumably there would have been a charge for, as airlines stick a charge on anything they can) However, as others have pointed out, that doesn't give the other family any more rights to the seat either...

All a bit odd really as I don't see why the other party of 3 couldn't use the spare aisle seat without expecting the extra seat too. I have to say, I also can't imagine how I'd explain that I wanted to keep an empty seat for someone who was a no show! OP- please come back and clarify!

Rufus44 Sat 02-Nov-13 11:06:34

bridgetsmum I completely agree with you, but I have seen it happen all the time, on planes and trains

Most people take the empty seat next to them if someone asks them for it they give it up, as the mother of a toddler I wouldn't have the brass balls to ask for a seat that wasn't mine in the same way that I wouldn't have the brass balls to refuse to give that spare seat

I don't think I said it was the right thing to do, just that it happens

We had a spare seat once, no one wanted it so once we were in the air we used it to lie one of the children down for a nap

YesterdayI Sat 02-Nov-13 11:09:37

Is this a real IABU or a theoretical one ?

BridgetsMum is correct. It was not your seat. You didn't have a bording card for it did you.
I would have let the other family use it (althougth, I admit, that I would have much rather of not)

bridgetsmum Sat 02-Nov-13 11:10:54

Lol Rufus we me and my DH do this all the time. Same point of view, different explanations!!

Yes, exactly.
The seat in the middle was a spare seat. It didn't belong to the OP or the toddler's parent. It was empty.

It wasn't up to the OP to offer the seat because it want hers to begin with.

The way I see it. If I was travelling with an under 2 who was on my lap for take off and landing and there was an empty seat next to me, I would use that seat once the seatbelt sign was switched off.

Rufus44 Sat 02-Nov-13 11:14:17

bridgetsmum I would just chuck the toddler in the spare seat and make a break for it!!

bridgetsmum Sat 02-Nov-13 11:15:36

Sounds like a good plan Rucus grinwink

bridgetsmum Sat 02-Nov-13 11:15:54

Rufus smile

Trifle Sat 02-Nov-13 11:17:20

It was an Easyjet flight and the boarding passes had been printed in the UK prior to travel. We had hand luggage only so bypassed the check in and went straight to passport control. It was only when on board that the stewards queried a the head count and I informed them that dp had returned home the day before.

It was a mother and child (approx 10) who wanted the two seats next to me. I advised that only the aisle seat was free. There's not much space on Easyjet flights and on a 4 hour journey at 11pm I didnt particularly feel like squashing up to allow other members of their party to spread out.

Rufus44 Sat 02-Nov-13 11:18:15

Although I am very passive aggressive

I would spend the whole flight going to my 2 year old

I know you are tired darling but we don't have any room for you to lie down

I know you want to draw but there is no room on mummy's lap

I know you want to get down, please don't cry

I would do it loudly, with lots of over dramatics and drive everybody round the twist!!!! I would have a very bewildered toddler grin

lottiegarbanzo Sat 02-Nov-13 11:24:22

What? That makes no sense! You can't not book a seat for a ten year old!

You said a couple with an infant had only two seats. Ten is not an infant and you can only take under-twos on your lap. What are you talking about?!!

Heartbrokenmum73 Sat 02-Nov-13 11:24:57

Trifle - first you said this The people who tried to take it were a family with an infant, now it's a mother and child (approx 10) confused

bridgetsmum Sat 02-Nov-13 11:26:21

You were completely in the wrong.
The seat next to you was not yours to decide who sat in it or not.
Your DH was a no show, you should have informed the staff at the boarding gate that he was not travelling

Heartbrokenmum73 Sat 02-Nov-13 11:26:23

Great first troll/goady post OP.

Reported.

SarahBumBarer Sat 02-Nov-13 11:30:04

Did you prevent a mother and 10 year old from being able to sit together then OP shock or did they just like the look of the two seats next to you better than the two seats (together) that they already had.

And yes confused where does the infant come in?

SarahBumBarer Sat 02-Nov-13 11:32:03

But boarding passes would have been scanned as people embarked, went through security etc so Easyjet would have known exactly how many people they had on board surely - so no confusion on the headcount. I mean they would not surely have scanned a boarding pass that was missing a person confused

bridgetsmum Sat 02-Nov-13 11:35:50

When you board a flight you must tally up the number of people checked in to the number that have boarded.
In this situation that would have been 1 out.
The system would show Mr OP as checked in online but not on board. However with the rest of his party boarded this would be the first place the staff would look.
When it came to light that Mr OP was not travelling, he would have been "offloaded" and his seat would then be spare for anyone to use

Greythorne Sat 02-Nov-13 11:35:58

If you DH. did not check in, it is no longer his (or your) seat.

Jolleigh Sat 02-Nov-13 11:37:46

So, you separated a mother and her ten year old because you felt you'd be too cramped without the extra seat?

Don't you sound lovely.

Airlines overbook to account for no-shows. Your husband wasn't there. There was no backside on the seat, so it was spare, regardless of your resentment about having paid for it.

YAB horrendously U

DowntonTrout Sat 02-Nov-13 11:38:37

Well whatever the story is OP the fact is you did not have ownership of the seat. Whilst it is always nice to have a spare seat next to you, and you may feel even more able to justify that it was yours as you had paid for it, you were wrong and had no claim to it at all.

So the answer to your question- So, whose seat is it? Is that it wasn't yours.

canyou Sat 02-Nov-13 12:20:45

you may have paid for the seat but it only becomes yours at check in, your DP could not check in. as he was not there his seat became available and the airline could have sat anyone there.

canyou Sat 02-Nov-13 12:28:27

and a word of warning even if you book an extra seat for an instrument, a dress, a dog etc if the flight is overbooked the Airline can and most do insist that the extra set goes to. person and the instrument etc go in the hold as a DAA so think carefully when booking seats for inanimate objects.
The airline I worked for HD the reasoning that the seat was cheaper than excess or oversized baggage charges so people bought a seat instead, and would not mind their stuff being put in the hold t he aircraft door to allow someone flyhmm

RhondaJean Sat 02-Nov-13 12:29:31

Here's a question.

Do you pay for a seat or do you pay for a person to travel and the person is then allocated a seat?

Because if the second, if the person doesn't travel, by my way if thinking the seat isn't yours any more than anyone else's.

Beccagain Sat 02-Nov-13 12:29:32

We had hand luggage only

For a whole week away??? You must give me packing lessons!

There also seems to be some discrepancy between the 'several people' in the OP and the various descriptions of the family who dared to want to put a bum, rather than a bag, on an empty seat.

Not 100% sure I haven't been had, here

frogspoon Sat 02-Nov-13 12:32:04

The people who tried to take it were a family with an infant who had 2 seats between the 3 of them.

It was a mother and child (approx 10) who wanted the two seats next to me.

I'm confused.

Who wanted the seat?

diddl Sat 02-Nov-13 12:35:20

"For a whole week away??? You must give me packing lessons!"

Jeez, it's not that hard!

I just flew Ryanair & only took on one bag-with their measly allowance!

canyou Sat 02-Nov-13 12:36:52

Rhonda You pay for travelled the set is extra but don't remind Michael O Leary of that wink

Beccagain Sat 02-Nov-13 12:39:24

Well I take my hat off to you Diddl.

A week's luggage for me would pretty much account for the hand luggage allowance in knickers alone --but then I am a lardarse!

SarahBumBarer Sat 02-Nov-13 12:39:34

Ryanair allow you to buy a spare seat so that you can have an extra (although it does not come with any luggage allowance). Presume it depends on the airline.

To be fair to OP, I can pack for a week away within most company's hand luggage allowance. Not hard especially if it is mainly a chill out beach holiday.

FWIW I don't think this is necessarily trolling (may be an idiot) just that OP has not been very clear. OP mentioned family and infant so it may have been Mother, 10 yr old and infant.

Beccagain Sat 02-Nov-13 12:42:57

FWIW I don't think this is necessarily trolling (may be an idiot) just that OP has not been very clear. OP mentioned family and infant so it may have been Mother, 10 yr old and infant

Well analysed Sarah but I am still shock that anyone can get a week's clothes/underwear/reading matter into Sleazyjet's on board allowance. But I stand corrected if that's the case (Must try harder!)

SarahBumBarer Sat 02-Nov-13 12:45:49

by the way it is me that me be an idiot.

Floggingmolly Sat 02-Nov-13 12:46:55

You were a perfect example of a dog in the manger, op. Well done for hanging onto your empty seat.

Beccagain Sat 02-Nov-13 12:47:18

by the way it is me that me be an idiot

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But it's as well that you clarified...I honestly thought you were talking about Trifle blush

LauraTrashley Sat 02-Nov-13 12:49:44

Correct isn't always the same as right

Beccagain Sat 02-Nov-13 12:49:53

Actually going off at a bit of a tangent, this OP is not the first in recent threads who has claimed to have spoken 'politely' to people who are clearly pissing them off, rightly or wrongly.

I think I would have more sympathy if they said 'So I told them to fuck off to the far side of fuck and when they got there to fuck off some more'

but then I love a good fuck ruck!

edam Sat 02-Nov-13 12:51:09

Am very impressed with the hand luggage only for a week.

OP, you were selfish.

Stravy Sat 02-Nov-13 12:52:01

I think easy jet have size but not weight restrictions. I may be wrong. It is perfectly possible if you don't take actual books and dress in layers on the plane

Beccagain Sat 02-Nov-13 12:52:54

Am very impressed with the hand luggage only for a week

<Waves to Edam>

So glad it's not just me. I was beginning to feel hugely inadequate!

Caitlin17 Sat 02-Nov-13 12:54:03

Becca well said!

edam Sat 02-Nov-13 12:54:44

I always think, oh, it's only a weekend, I won't need to take much... then end up with a bag that dh has to carry for me. blush I look at it and think, hang on, there is NOTHING in there that I won't need!

*NB I do have suitcases with wheels, but dh comes in handy for lifting in and out of cars/trains.

Beccagain Sat 02-Nov-13 12:55:21

Edam I think you must be me!

diddl Sat 02-Nov-13 13:16:10

I didn't have to take towels, though-and was going somewhere warm, so I guess that that helped.

34DD Sat 02-Nov-13 13:20:04

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

HollaAtMeBaby Sat 02-Nov-13 13:38:22

YANBU! I wouldn't have given up the seat either. You paid for it!

nextphase Sat 02-Nov-13 14:37:34

Right, It is perfectly possible to book a seat on a plane for an infant under 2
We have done it. Child needs to be on a grown-ups lap for take off and landing, but can sit in its own seat the rest of the time - some planes even have booster seats available on board for them.

However, I suspect short haul flights don't necessarily operate this system.

OP - sorry, you fortified your rights to the seat when DH didn't board. But since it didn't belong to anyone, spreading out to another seat which was empty, and happened to be next to you would appear OK. Officially,. once the airline knew your husband wasn't flying they could have resold the seat, and someone else could have had a boarding pass issued with that seat number on.

YouAreMyRain Sat 02-Nov-13 14:53:10

YABU and selfish. Did you have a boarding pass for that seat?

As a PP said, airlines overbook, you pay to fly, your DH didn't fly.

The airline could have filled that seat, it was not yours unless you had a boarding pass for it.

lainiekazan Sat 02-Nov-13 15:16:33

I know some, er, larger men who buy three plane seats and sit one each side of the spare seat. If the flight is full then the system is that the airline refunds them the cost of the extra seat. If it is not full then they keep it for "overspill" so as not to annoy others. Some people have asked them to move up so as to have the aisle seat but they politely decline explaining they have bought three seats.

SidandAndyssextoy Sat 02-Nov-13 18:29:32

Once your husband knew he wasn't travelling, he should have notified the airline that his check in was no longer valid. I have no idea how you scanned an additional boarding pass through. There are serious security issues here. I simply don't think what you're describing is possible.

HollaAtMeBaby Sat 02-Nov-13 18:44:39

I can't see the logic of people saying the airline could take back the unused seat and resell it. If this were true then very fat people wouldn't be allowed to buy two seats (which is allowed by Easyjet as well as most other airlines). I'm sure that had Easyjet offered a full refund on the seat the OP would rather have had the money back but as she had paid for the allocated seat, it wasn't anyone else's to sit in.

DeepPurple Sat 02-Nov-13 18:49:23

How could the stewardess only be querying the head count on board? Surely the boarding pass wasn't scanned through security or the boarding gate?

DeepPurple Sat 02-Nov-13 18:51:21

Buying two seats because you are larger person is different. You would still only have one boarding card and of course you would be entitled to both seats. People that buy a ticket but then don't show up give up the right to the seat and the ticket can be resold.

LondonNicki Sat 02-Nov-13 19:00:37

I think in the case of a passenger not turning up for the flight the seat reverts back to the airline to allocate as they wish. As mentioned above, they overbook flights for this very reason.

Thatisall Sat 02-Nov-13 19:06:18

So you paid for it but didn't strictly speaking need it but a family who really needed it were denied it, by you, because you paid for it?

Wow just wow

Heartbrokenmum73 Sat 02-Nov-13 19:07:28

Where's the OP hmm

foreverondiet Sat 02-Nov-13 19:13:34

Initially I thought it's your seat but then when i read about it being a family with a baby i changed my mind as think you were being v selfish!

Thatisall Sat 02-Nov-13 19:13:44

OP my dh just said "why didn't she sit with her two children? That would make more sense, a family of three say in three seats?"
Why sit separately from your children on a flight? Is it really worth it to assert your perceived right to that spare seat?

so was it

a) mum, dad and baby

or

b) mum, 10 yo and baby?

you were within your rights of course. but i would have felt bad not giving them the seat. then again, they could have paid for a seat.

Thatisall Sat 02-Nov-13 19:24:02

I don't think IOU could take a ten year old on without a seat??? Infant to me says baby or toddler. OP?

paxtecum Sat 02-Nov-13 20:12:36

OP: You seem to be mean spirited.

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