To not care a jot about the panda?

(109 Posts)

Just been to visit them at the zoo. As I expected it's asleep. Sleeps 16 hours a day. The male one's ill so can't be on show. So we spend 10 minutes in a room with a video of it actually moving whilst it sleeps in a corner.

Maybe there's a reason it's only in season for 2 days a year? God's trying to tell us something surely? wink

One horned Rhinos on the other hand are the dog's bollocks. And if you hear one fart you're in for a treat. Fantastic!

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 21:58:28

grin@farting rhino

am meh about the pandas I have not been to see them yet and the non event of a pregnancy got on my nerves such a waste of time I do think the Pandas are telling humans something give it up

MortifiedAnyFuckerAdams Tue 29-Oct-13 21:58:39

Maybe it shouldnt be locked up in a zoo all its life. Pretty get depressed and bored and sleep most of the day away if I were locked up like that too.

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 21:59:23

they sleep so long because they cant digest the bamboo they do that in the wild too

Am not sure they'd exist still if it weren't for humans meddling? They're solitary animals.

sassytheFIRST Tue 29-Oct-13 22:02:11

Saw one of the San Diego ones years ago. All excited, dashed to the panda bit 1st thing in the morning. One panda was out, fast asleep, up a tree. Wow/Awww etc. Returned last thing before we went home, about 9 hours later. It was still in the tree. I swear it was a stuffed one from the gift shop, the real ones were backstage, listening to techno and doing Es.

Oh and no they shouldn't be in zoos at all. No fun for anyone or them tbh.

yes, but, they just sooo darn cute

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 22:03:44

I am not sure why they are still breeding and lending them to zoos tbh

RhondaJean Tue 29-Oct-13 22:07:47

I'm coming back as a panda.

You get to lie around and eat your body weight every day, and NOONE hates a panda. Everyone loves a panda.

Well except freaking sad

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 22:09:52

but could you stomach the sticks all you would have to eat is sticks grin I do like a baby panda though they are adorable

RhondaJean Tue 29-Oct-13 22:11:31

But pandas like sticks, it's their equivalent of eating milk tray all day every day.

I will be a happy panda.

Have you seen the sneezing panda baby?

TheCrackFoxFucker Tue 29-Oct-13 22:12:11

I live in Edinburgh and I can't be added going to see the pandas. Meh.

susiedaisy Tue 29-Oct-13 22:13:16

I have to say I'm a bit meh about the fuss surrounding pandas!

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 22:13:37

bu they are bears they should be scoffing fish or deer or something not sticks grin

Yeah, but the koalas are cute.

Koala bear for me - better weather, sleep all day and getting a kick off all the eucalyptus leaves ...

sassytheFIRST Tue 29-Oct-13 22:14:19

Sneezing baby panda vair cute. <nods>

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 22:14:36

NOW kolas grin bet they smell like vicks vapor rub

Hates??? Where did I say hate? I don't hate pandas for the love of God!!!

They're just meh that's all.

Little weeny monkey babies are so bloody cute though. I want one of those as long as it stays weeny and I had a room for it away from my dog who'd eat it. Not good.

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 22:16:01

{grin} sneezing panda baby it is very cute ok Pandas are cute sleepy and pointles but cute

MrsOakenshield Tue 29-Oct-13 22:16:20

wasn't it Chris Packham who said we should give up trying to save giant pandas? Can't remember what his reasoning was.

Zoos are vile places, why on earth do people go? To expect caged animals to entertain them?

RhondaJean Tue 29-Oct-13 22:16:36

Koalas are a bit too active.

And bugger that chasing a fish up a river crap.

Now, sticks, they stay put so they do, and you can just roll around and hug them and eat and nap when you feel like it.

Tell me that doesn't sound like bliss!

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 22:16:42

oh no monkey pets they go for you they are really wild and not good pets

Kleinzeit Tue 29-Oct-13 22:16:50

I miss the red pandas. Now they really were cute!

RhondaJean Tue 29-Oct-13 22:17:21

No no no one hates a panda!

SomethingOnce Tue 29-Oct-13 22:17:21

Hang on, you're saying the one thing they actually eat they can't even digest efficiently?

Pandas are fucked.

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 22:17:32

you know rolling about hugging my stick sounds fab and I would only need to DTD twice a year Oh ok being a panda sounds bliss

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 22:18:35

Hang on, you're saying the one thing they actually eat they can't even digest efficiently?

they have to eat loads of it that is why they sleep and eat and they can't really digest it properly

TheCrackFoxFucker you live in Edinburgh envy I should live there. I always well up when I leave. Just been for a few nights with my dcs and tore myself away today.

Gone off cosmic ordering.

Shenanagins Tue 29-Oct-13 22:20:17

I think the reasoning behind giving up on pandas was around they all the help to the detriment of less cute animals.

I needed a giraffe for FB. Promised I'd take a pic of one instead of downloading one because of the stupid riddle thing. Anyway they're not there, pandas are.

RhondaJean Tue 29-Oct-13 22:21:23

I have thought about this a lot grin

Maybe too much when the summit of my current ambition is to be a panda.

Thesimplethings Tue 29-Oct-13 22:22:04

I visited Edinburgh zoo recently. No sign of a panda. But I understand they are private animals and they are almost extinct. If they need to be away from prying eyes in order to carry in the breed then fair enough.

Yes I was disappointed, yes ds's age 3 and 2 were disappointed but they accepted that they are rare special animals and were happy with a toy panda each which they still take to bed every night.

How would you like to be in an enclosure stretch marks etched on show?

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 22:22:32

whatever gets you through the day rhonda

I saw a few day old Giraffe at Longleat the other year it was adorable and gangly

happydaze77 Tue 29-Oct-13 22:22:46

Chris Packham described them as 'an evolutionary cul-de-sac'.

Meglet Tue 29-Oct-13 22:22:56

Does anyone know if there was ever a period when Pandas weren't at risk? Were they as common as muck, say 500 yrs ago?

Bless them, they are cute but really need to get their act together on the shagging and diet front if they want to survive another 100yrs.

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 22:23:37

you need to book to see them or was this when she was supposed to be pregnant thesimplethings

We booked. Only because it was free.

ExitPursuedByABogieMan Tue 29-Oct-13 22:25:43

One horned rhinos confused

Is there another sort?

Zoos are shit.

But sadly probably useful.

See - typical Ozzie , Koalas just get on with the whole business and hAve built in kiddy pouches ...

She was pg. Lost it late. They'd got her pg through IVF.

Oh and her fella is in separate enclosure all the time. He's not well because he can't absorb calcium.

I went to a zoo and all there was just a little dog in the corner ... It was a Shih tzu

Exit that would be the two horned rhinos.

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 22:28:02

oh was she I thought she wasn't pregnant I must have missed that she lost it.

aww I love red Pandas they make me do awww look squee noises blush the highland wildlife park had red pandas

giraffesCantGoGuising Tue 29-Oct-13 22:28:04


grin Itsjust.

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 22:28:53

the one horned Rhino is an indian rhino

The other type is Dead rhinos - There seems to be quite an interest in rhino and elephant horn ....

Red pandas are no relation to the sleeping ones. The Chinese word for panda means big bear cat.

RhondaJean Tue 29-Oct-13 22:30:22

D you think if I bought and wore that onesie people would let me lie around all day hugging toblerones?

The bloke panda at the zoo is barking mad, he climbs everything but he doesn't know how to get down so he just let's go, keeps breaking stuff in his enclosure.

I know Itsjust the fuckers who do that want shooting. So grim.

That makes me laugh every time, itsjusta... grin

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 22:31:19

Get one Rhonda, they're good for Halloween allegedly.

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 22:31:55

dont press that link it is no link I am shit at links

It would be rude not to wheel it out - still cracks me up ...

Thesimplethings Tue 29-Oct-13 22:32:47

We booked, however they still let people in the walk through as they weren't on show.

So booking to see them means nothing.

AgentP major fail X post! grin

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 22:33:32

Ha ha - yes, I'm too slow!

Anyone else who's been to Edinburgh zoo think the zebras are the favourites? They have so much field. Just saying.

Bingdweller Tue 29-Oct-13 22:48:18

We're Edinburgh zoo members, love taking the kids grin Am rubbish at links, but have you seen the YouTube vid? Google "Tian Tian edinburgh hammock" - it's fab. There's also a really good one of her doing somersaults with a ball.

I have seen the pandas a few times now and their most active time is around 10.30am if anyone is planning a visit soon!

ExitPursuedByABogieMan Tue 29-Oct-13 22:52:47

Ah the Indian rhino.

scarlettsmummy2 Tue 29-Oct-13 22:55:11

We are members of Edinburgh zoo. It is ok for something to do with the children, but Belfast zoo far better- they have elephants and giraffes! Edinburgh just seems to have lots of birds and pig like creatures, although their monkeys are very amusing.

Bingdweller I saw the video of her and the ball.

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 22:58:05

I haven't been for years I dont really like it I did see mercedes Polar bear before she died and her fella she seemed happy in her new home bless her

Oh I once saw a poor polar bear who was so miserable. Swaying from side to side sad

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 23:01:44

she did that when she came into season apparently and tbh her enclosure was to small her new one was great she had lots of space to wander around she did pace a little but not as much and when she came into season it isn't nice to see though,

Eeek, just googled it was at Edinburgh zoo years ago Glad she had a little while of happiness.

Bingdweller Tue 29-Oct-13 23:05:08

Poor Mercedes, she moved to much nicer surroundings them promptly died sad The Patagonian sea lion wasn't nice to see either.

Glad to see the recent improvements and more appropriate enclosures for a lot of their animals. There seems to be a huge drive towards conservation of species. Some things are done very well - koalas, meerkats, Budongo Trail etc. but I hate the big cat enclosures and would love to see them upgraded.

God yes to the big cat enclosures being upgraded. I was shocked at those.

But as for the zebras....

RhondaJean Tue 29-Oct-13 23:07:52

I wouldn't go to Belfast zoo purely because they have elephants and they really aren't suitable for keeping in zoos.

I think with some animals it's a case of better than the alternative re conservation but not them.

I don't mind seeing rescued elephants in zoos as long as they have room.

HesterShaw Tue 29-Oct-13 23:09:02

Evolutionary dead end, if you ask me.

We would be better off putting all the investment and effort into saving lots more more important species, like sharks and bees.

However pandas look cute and cuddly.

Yes to bees too. We'll be fucked without them.

NewtRipley Wed 30-Oct-13 06:30:18

Although Pandas weren't put on this earth to amuse us, they are boring.

Battersea Zoo is a lovely one for little children

nameuschangeus Wed 30-Oct-13 06:46:06

In defence of the panda I saw one at London Zoo a good few years back which really knew how to give value for money. It hung upside down from the roof of its cage and really performed for the crowd. My niece asked if it was a man in a suit it was so lively. On the basis if this alone I think we should give them the benefit if the doubt wink

livinginwonderland Wed 30-Oct-13 06:48:26

Edinburgh Zoo in general really disappointed me. I'd heard such good things about it but it looked so run down and the enclosures were tiny especially for the tigers and big cats sad

Morloth Wed 30-Oct-13 06:57:06

Pointless creatures who sole survival strategy appears to be being cute to humans.

Cats do something similar but are much much better at it.

HesterShaw Wed 30-Oct-13 08:44:51

But cats are domesticated. Rightly or wrongly, we have bred them to amuse us. Pandas, if left well alone, ought to be able to get along ok by themselves. Some evidence says they would probably not be able to - hence the term evolutionary dead end. Disclaimer: am not an expert in panda evolution and am mainly parroting Chris Packham.

So many species are struggling and much more important for biodiversity. I said sharks and bees before - I can't think of two any more important.

kali110 Wed 30-Oct-13 08:47:18

Im going to come back as a panda. Or a cat.

tobiasfunke Wed 30-Oct-13 08:49:37

For the love of god won't you think about the poor penguins. For years Edinburgh zoo was all about the penguins and now they have been sidelined for stupid big bears that sleep all the time. I bet they're not bitter.

Morloth Wed 30-Oct-13 08:50:57

Biodiversity is screwed, the Matrix robots were right, we are like a virus, we will burn everything up until there isn't anything left to burn and then we will die.

The planet will be fine, new species will evolve.

We are not as important or as original as we think we are.

MiaowTheCat Wed 30-Oct-13 08:51:53

Edinburgh Zoo nearly fucking killed me. "Oh it's a little bit hilly" I got told. Fucking SPD, heavy pushchair and that vertical cliff face!

mrsjay Wed 30-Oct-13 08:54:05

I watched a programme 100 years of edinburgh zoo and they used to walk the penguins about the zoo and then out and down the street imagine going down the shops and a penguin parade passes you -- i think that would be awesome--

HesterShaw Wed 30-Oct-13 08:58:53

Yeah alright Morloth. That's exactly my point actually. We're not as important as we think we are, therefore it is right and proper to stop fucking things up so much. The "planet" includes everything that was living on it before we started messing it all up. Left to its own devices, the sea for instance, would contain a lot more than jellyfish, which is more or less what would happen if removing all apex predators is taken to its logical conclusion. That has already happened in some places: it's not just theory.

Anyway, back to cuddly pandas....

SomethingOnce Wed 30-Oct-13 08:59:16

But cats are domesticated. Rightly or wrongly, we have bred them to amuse us.

Wrong. Cats have bred us to serve them. They are very much having the last laugh.

HesterShaw Wed 30-Oct-13 09:00:08


Morloth Wed 30-Oct-13 09:02:39

But we aren't fucking things up HesterShaw we are simply acting within the machine, not from outside of it.

One day we will be gone, there will be new apex predators. And the planet will keep turning and spinning around the sun, we are as pointless as the Panda in the grand scheme of things.

Pandas are cute but pointless therefore the cuteness was a clever move really. How many would be left right now if they were not cute? 0 is my thought.

cocoleBOO Wed 30-Oct-13 09:08:02

Someone broke into Belfast Zoo and feed the penguibs to the lions shock.
Four monkeys escaped last week, and one is still on the run.
They don't seem to have heard of locks.

HesterShaw Wed 30-Oct-13 09:10:01

Ah, we'll have to disagree there Morloth

I can't look at an oil covered seabird flapping its wings hopelessly and just think "Ah, we're just working from within the machine." That guillemot has as much right to life as I do.

I won't carry on with this direction of conversation, as I'll just lose my temper and become ranty and undignified smile

glastocat Wed 30-Oct-13 09:15:01

Koalas are much better than pandas, and very soft and fluffy too. They do have massive claws and chlamydia though.

glastocat Wed 30-Oct-13 09:15:28

And wombats are better than anything.

Morloth Wed 30-Oct-13 09:16:57

LOL, it is pointless anyway.

Humans are screwed, we will self destruct at some point.

Then it will be someone else's go.

Maybe the guillemots, who knows.

Morloth Wed 30-Oct-13 09:17:54

Wombats and Koalas stink though.

And Koalas make a bloody awful sound at night when they are mating.

Sounds like a zombie invasion.

cocoleBOO Wed 30-Oct-13 09:30:27

I thought koalas didn't do anything either, because they are stoned all the time.
I'm coming back as a koala btw grin

MaryZombie Wed 30-Oct-13 09:41:09

Koalas are revolting, and they all seem to have fleas.

Pandas are boring. And they aren't really cute, we just think they are because most of us having only seen them either asleep or stuffed.

gussiegrips Wed 30-Oct-13 09:44:01

I went into labour at the zoo.

Big queue for the zebra bus and I had the lunch in an enormous rucksack - DH had toddled the kids up to the zebras where we were to meet.

My moronic thought process was "the kids will be hungry. He'll worry. I'll be fine walking up"

Oddly enough, loudly mooing like a wildebeest didn't bring hoardes of helpful folk my way. They just assumed it was a wildebeest.

Morloth Wed 30-Oct-13 09:50:18

Bloody awful creatures.

I often go to sleep to this sound. Though thinking about it, it is amazing we haven't had hoards of randy female koalas trying to break in and get a DH when he is asleep. It is not unlike to godawful noise he makes when he is snoring.

Oh heck qussieqripps grin

They are extremely cute, and it's a rare animal that gets through my not-bothered-about-animals shell.

But they hate sex and 99% of their preferred diet is something that they can't digest. So what's the point?

RoxanneReidsChafingFishnets Wed 30-Oct-13 10:38:19

They hate sex and eat stuff that they can't deal with.. Do you think they see us humans walking past with food and just dream that they could eat it.

Lets go give them some ice cream and chips. grin

I prefer donkeys

GhostsInSnow Wed 30-Oct-13 10:39:25

sassytheFIRST I went to San Diego zoo years ago (early 90's must have been), the Panda's don't stick in my mind (not surprising if they were asleep) but they did have a kick ass huge Gorilla who, when he saw a camera come out would purposefully turn his back on you and stick up his fingers.

Funniest thing I ever did see and thats the only memory I carry of San Diego Zoo, being flipped off by a Gorilla. grin

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poii10 Sat 16-Nov-13 20:01:04

Do you know why their are no fucking panda.s, because a panda wont fuck a panda, thats why their are no fucking pandas.

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