to get naffed off with the raising breast cancer awareness frippery?

(109 Posts)

Fecking FB. angry

Tbh, I'm a bit irrational about it, having been touched signifcantly by BC recently, so my view may be skewed, but how on earth is I like it on the doorknob going to raise awareness in any mindful manner?

There's a photo of lemons in an egg box with clues to changes in breast tissue that are worth looking out for. Now that's worth sharing.

And raising money by running, cakes, whatever - worthwhile as well.

But stuppid inane posts? Meh.Wanky.

AIBU?

Stuppid?

hmm at self.

KirjavaTheCorpse Fri 18-Oct-13 18:07:12

Ah, so that's what those posts are about? No awareness raised here, had no idea what they were blabbering on about confused

MurderOfBanshees Fri 18-Oct-13 18:07:52

YANBU

It's a load of mindless bollocks

Felyne Fri 18-Oct-13 18:09:18

I agree with you. Let's post some odd innuendo and not tell anyone what it's about and somehow claim it's 'raising awareness' or, as in a message I got, 'showing how powerful women are'. ???? Yeah sure.
I did share the lemons picture you mentioned a few months ago (because hey it's good info to have any time of year not just October!)

ConfusedandDazed24 Fri 18-Oct-13 18:09:32

Also without being crass, of all the cancers, isn't breast cancer the one that most people are aware of? So if the intention really is to do a good deed and raise awareness why not pick one of the lesser talked about ones? Bowel cancer springs to mind here as a lot of people are either unaware of the symptoms or too embarrassed to seek help.

I did post this on the other thread but no one replied sad

ConfusedandDazed24 Fri 18-Oct-13 18:10:46

And does anyone have a link to the egg box thing please? I've also been significantly touched by BC and I'd like to share something worthwhile x

FrightRider Fri 18-Oct-13 18:11:00

me and some of my friends have been linking to this along with a statement of how we feel about the stupid games.

Its been getting some positive responses smile

CurlyKiwiControl Fri 18-Oct-13 18:11:44

Ah, I kinda agree.

However a lot of my family have recently joined fb, and are totally into this sort of thing, as its new for them iyswim... they think it's good. However, they have spectacularly missed the double entendre thing and have been driving me mad as they have all missed the "I like it on" part and just put "on the floor in the hall" part - which at first caused great alarm for her welfare!!!!

Bramshott Fri 18-Oct-13 18:11:59

I thought it was a tasteless joke tbh, and have deleted any messages about it. Surely it can't be any sort of official thing??

Letticetheslug Fri 18-Oct-13 18:12:13

I agree, it annoys me, presumably people are supposed to say " Why have you posted such shite" and we reply, " I'm glad you asked me that dear colleague..have you considered how prevalent breast cancer is..."

Load of bollocks

ConfusedandDazed24 Fri 18-Oct-13 18:12:46

LOVE that fright

Gossipmonster Fri 18-Oct-13 18:12:51

I just post this when I get a message about it and leave the conversation smile

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2499249

MaidOfStars Fri 18-Oct-13 18:13:48

It's bollocks. I usually update my status to say something like: Instead of telling us about (insert activity), if people - men and women, this is not just a female cancer - want to do actually do something positive to help beat breast cancer, please consider donating below (add link to fundraising page).

Thanks, you lot, I started this thread in anger andhave deteriorated into upset about something so fecking trivial. sad

I'm glad I';m not alone thinking like this.

Will try and find lemons for you, BOP.

HereComesHoneyBooBooDragon Fri 18-Oct-13 18:14:40

Yup, yup and yup.

Drives me nuts. I stopped using Fb completely when my mum had cancer as some of the shit sent to me was awful. A shower of Internet angel wings are not going to cure cancer. Oddly enough sending them back to the recipients with a link attached to Macmillan resulted in £0.00 donations, from the caring thinking fuckertwats.

Well said, chaos.

I didn't initially know what you were talking about as it would appear I have finally defriended everyone who engages in this crap.

I know often it's mindless, but I think it's actually quite hurtful - breast cancer really isn't a good one to link with innuendos IMO (not sure any illness is!).

usualsuspect Fri 18-Oct-13 18:15:10

It gets people taking about Breast Cancer

Meh, I can't get worked up about stuff on FB

FrightRider Fri 18-Oct-13 18:15:50

tbh, i have never done the game, i honestly dont understand how it raises awareness to breast cancer.

Before that article i linked to popped up, i used to say something about not filling peoples feeds with idiotic innuendo and then link to a BC charity like Copafeel or The Breast cancer campaign website.

Big if though, usual.

And it also runs the risk of making people actually suffering with cancer feel shit, for obvious reasons.

TEErickOrTEEreat Fri 18-Oct-13 18:16:51

Sure talking about how naff their attempt to raise awareness is usual.

But hardly does anything to help with BC.

And not only women get BC so why is it always a 'don't tell the men' giggle giggle I'm going to puke thing.

NotYoMomma Fri 18-Oct-13 18:16:55

oh God I got an email about this today, where do you leave your handbag.

so by posting 'i like it on the sofa' apparently it raises awareness.

normally it raises only an eyebrow and a wtf?

as if people will suddenly be all 'whoa! breast cancer exists?!'

angry there should be useful links and info and how to donate to relevant charities, not innane drivel

usualsuspect Fri 18-Oct-13 18:17:04

And I've been affected by cancer a great deal in the last few years

cocoleBOO Fri 18-Oct-13 18:17:22

Oh is that what those I like it posts are? I was stumped.

AnaisHellWitch Fri 18-Oct-13 18:18:23

I have been getting some stick for my replies this year.

It's the handbag one again at the moment. I secretly hope that some of the nastier people get their bags stolen from their house as a consequence blush

HereComesHoneyBooBooDragon Fri 18-Oct-13 18:18:55

Oh Chaos ((cuddles))

Cancer makes everyone it touches because it is a bastard.

Maybe next year we'll do our own counter campaign to the innuendo.

FUCK OFF FUCKING CANCER
Donate a £1 to a cancer charity then share this status.

HepsibubbleCauldronToad Fri 18-Oct-13 18:19:55

Those 'chain mail' type bollocks give me the rage. I received one once and promptly deleted that person.

I've had cancer (not BC, but cancer nevertheless) and raising awareness should be exactly that, not some childish fucking shite full of oh so (not) hilarious innuendo. Anyone who posts that shit is, frankly, a plank. A woodworm riddled manky plank.

<may be quite passionate about this>

usualsuspect Fri 18-Oct-13 18:21:28

Fair enough.

That HP article is really useful, thanks Fright.

Yes, Hineyd, donate a bloody pound rather than talking tosh is a much better plan.

Thanks yuo lot.

HepsibubbleCauldronToad Fri 18-Oct-13 18:23:33

And, AND, if you want to raise awareness for cancer charities, then get off your fucking arse and do something you lazy cunt. Posting a pathetic FB status/chain mail/innuendo bollocks is NOT going to raise anything other than 'WTF are you on about?' shit.

<maybe needs to shut up now>

GreenTeaDrinker Fri 18-Oct-13 18:23:45

YANBU I finished my treatment for BC less than a year ago and a friend posted odd things on fakebook which made no sense... then I realised that they were some bc game. Very odd, and very crap.

I think she thought that by posting it she was telling the world how she "supports" the "cause". This was the same person who, when I told her I had just been diagnosed with bc, wailed to me down the phone about what would she do if I died shock

So yep, great awareness raising there. I am totally with you on this one, it's total and utter bullshit.

[Gets coat]

ConfusedandDazed24 Fri 18-Oct-13 18:24:41

Thanks Chaos. thanks

Yes, yes a thousand times yes. Funnily enough I had a message in my inbox but haven't seen any status updates. I think if I did I'd comment underneath each and every status with a link to donating to cancer research or similar.

AnaisHellWitch Fri 18-Oct-13 18:25:37

GreenTeaDrinker shock angry

Oh, GreenTea.

<<squeeze>>

See?

All my sane friends live in Mumsnet.

Thanks for all the swearysense.

weak smile

Chaos, I have come to that conclusion too. smile

candycoatedwaterdrops Fri 18-Oct-13 18:35:50

I hate the <giggle giggle< don't tell the menz! Cause men don't get breast cancer, do they?! Nor love someone who is affected by breast cancer?

I like it in the hall. Lol

Oh is this the wrong place?

I agree, it's v odd.

HereComesHoneyBooBooDragon Fri 18-Oct-13 18:39:08

Although I do think we should listen to Aunty Usual, a bit.

Meh. Is the only correct response to the majority of wanky things on Facebook.

TondelayoSchwarzkopf Fri 18-Oct-13 18:39:34

YANBU and when this subject comes up I always recommend Smile or Die by Barbara Ehrenreich which kicks off with an analysis of the pinkification of breast cancer and her alienation from that culture when she was diagnosed with BC.

ABF grin

candycoated - that's a really important point - it mentioned it in the HP article. It's kinda the giggly girly twee crapola of lets keep it between the gurlz that;s irking me as well.

specialsubject Fri 18-Oct-13 18:42:10

all the 'awareness' stuff for ANYTHING really annoys me. As does anyone who thinks social meejah does anything at all.

BTW to donate to charity, do so directly. All the sites takes 5%. Those godawful plastic bracelets and bags of sweets just generate litter and only donate tiny amounts to charity.

Mm, and last year, when I first saw it, I felt like everyone was part of a hilarious big joke that I didn't get - took me right back to school it did.

This year I know it's crap.

PollyIndia Fri 18-Oct-13 18:54:44

I have been thinking about this as I have always thought that posting te colour of your bra or where you leave your bag is just a bit of a rubbish viral thing and does nothing to raise awareness. Then a friend with serious breast cancer asked me to do it. Instead I have changed my profile picture to the breast cancer awareness month pic for the rest of the month and put a link up about donating and where to read more. Am I being churlish in this do you think?

PollyIndia Fri 18-Oct-13 18:55:55

Though specialsubject, social media is a really valuable way to raise money. I raised £9k for guide dogs when I did the marathon and I reckon without the power of Facebook, the sum would have been a ninth of that.

PollyIndia Fri 18-Oct-13 18:56:28

Chaostrulyreigns that is exactly it

BOF Fri 18-Oct-13 19:00:18

I don't think you're being churlish at all, Polly.

flowersinavase Fri 18-Oct-13 19:04:08

It's not just FB: every single magazine I have read recently seems to have a special 'section' devoted to breast cancer, as well as 'all pink' fashion shoots.

Firstly - there are other cancers, so why the focus on this one (other than it's boobs, giggle giggle)?

Secondly - breast cancer has been linked to things like being overweight and drinking too much. Why is that hardly ever mentioned? If more people exercised, breast fed and drank less, breast (and other types of) cancer cases would decrease. Prevention is better than cure

[obviously not all cases and I'm not in any way saying people have 'caused' their cancers, but clear links have been shown in some instances]

Thirdly - cancer is not glamorous. It's horrible. Trying to make it sexy is sickening (I've had cancer. Losing all my hair and 20lb in 6wks did not make me look sexy: it made me look like someone from a concentration camp).

UserError Fri 18-Oct-13 19:06:16

I absolutely hate the games and I've turned into a bit of a keyboard warrior whenever I see the opportunity. None of my friends are daft enough to post them - it's usually a status by them to their own friends list, explaining why they're annoyed by the games and why they're not the best thing to do.

I finished my own hospital treatment for breast cancer last May. I'm really really outing myself now, but I've been posting a link to the R4L I'm doing tomorrow in memory of a friend. Probably breaking a million mumsnet rules now, but this is our JustGiving link: www.raceforlifesponsorme.org/lllers/

That gets posted whenever I see someone defending the games because hey, put your money where your mouth is.

I'm also countering the stupid comments by informing people about a Facebook support network I'm part of. If anyone knows anyone who has had breast cancer young, please get them to search for the Younger Breast Cancer Network UK on Facebook. It's several private groups that the admins have to add to you, but we have about 600 women so far from around the UK and the support is amazing.

UserError Fri 18-Oct-13 19:09:26

For what it's worth, I hate pinkwashing but I grit my teeth and bear it during October, because at least most of it is trying to give out a sensible message and is also raising money for research (yes, some might be mere pennies but still).

The lifestyle issues - totally with you on that flowersinavase. I'm overweight and I had a strongly oestrogen positive breast cancer. The correlation is there. Did my weight cause it? No. Did it contribute? Very possibly.

I'm just having a virtual argument with someone about this. Apparently I am a sourpuss, and it's just a bit of fun posting those statuses.

Does nothing to raise awareness or help.

I have no issue with the existence of "breast cancer month" and all the useful things that happen - fundraising, reminding people to check their breasts, even people paying tribute to lost loved ones etc....but yeah the pointless "share this if you care" crap does my head in.

I never share...my Mum is dying from this hideous disease, having beaten it many times in the last 20 years, I care plenty thanks and don't need to tell the world about it. She does a lot of fundraising all year round, even now she can barely leave the house and it has spread to her brain and lungs.

I had no clue about the "I like it on..." thing. I'd seen random statuses but didn't know what it was about...how is that "raising awareness" exactly?

The way I see it...if one person's life is saved because they decide to check their breasts thanks to seeing something on Facebook then it is worth it, but certain things do get my goat a bit about it.

NanooCov Fri 18-Oct-13 19:17:49

I didn't have a clue what this was about and just thought some Facebook acquaintances were indulging in weirder attention seeking status updates than usual. So it clearly does not work to raise awareness. Now I know what it's about I'm fucked off by it - load if shite and crass - I'm sure one of my best friends (thankfully now cancer free after a year if treatment - yay!) would agree. Bollocks to it.

CuntyBunty Fri 18-Oct-13 19:26:24

BC is rife through our family (female line), but the pink shizz makes me turn my eyes away from reading anything further and WaterAid is then more likely to get a donation from me, even though BC is closer to home IYSWIM.

It's like those fucking, execrable, marketing bell ends who do the Boots adverts (how I now loathe thee, Boots, you cunts) have taken over the breast cancer campaign and made it all giggly, girly, hair twirly, frothy. Urgh.

I have a had a few glasses of wine.

HepsibubbleCauldronToad Fri 18-Oct-13 19:32:51

grin Cunty I've had no wine, but still managed to say what I felt in between the expletives..

TondelayoSchwarzkopf Fri 18-Oct-13 19:47:22

Secondly - breast cancer has been linked to things like being overweight and drinking too much. Why is that hardly ever mentioned?

Quoted for truth - that's why the 'girls night in' Cancer Research fundraiser makes me hmm

Scarlet so sorry about your mum flowers my mum also has had it.

The point is not that BC is not a serious issue that damages many lives but the way the fundraising and 'awareness' is communicated and managed. Why is it just about generic 'awareness' and not specific messages that treat the audience intelligently

a) there are many different types of breast cancer

b) checking your breasts and 'being aware' is not necessarily the best way to get an early diagnosis - in fact over-diagnosis and over-treatment is also an issue.

c) the 'pinkification' of BC is patronising and misguided

d) many breast cancers primarily affect post-menopausal women but they rarely are the target or subject of Breast Cancer Awareness month

e) there have been many advances in breast cancer diagnosis and treatment and understanding of these would make much more interesting reading - and better communicate how important research funding is - than silly Facebook games

f) as above the biggest thing you can do in lowering your risk factor is cutting back on booze - it's the one environmental factor that is backed up by the evidence

CuntyBunty Fri 18-Oct-13 19:53:39

Yes, Tondelayo, you speak sense.

RenterNomad Fri 18-Oct-13 20:37:47

I'll look up that "Smile or Die" thing, TondelayoScheartzkopf, thank you.

Barbara Ehrenrich is brilliant. I think I remember reading reviews/excerpts of this book when it came out, but if not I can imagine what it's like: she was bloody scathing and brilliant in that book about u nemployment/ precarious employment, so can just imagine how she'll rip guts out of any argument that "staying positive" helps one beat cancer... so presumably those who succumb are weak and deserve to die - disgusting idea.

Thanks Tondelayo, sorry about yours too. She's an inspiration to me. She never talks of "battles" or "bravery". She just gets on with it and is an amazing woman and mother. I was 7 when she was first diagnosed and I'm now 30. It's bad now...really bad, but she's always smiling.

TondelayoSchwarzkopf Fri 18-Oct-13 20:55:13

flowers to you and your mum Scarlet that is so hard to live with from such a young age.

bigbrick Fri 18-Oct-13 20:57:03

There should be equal awareness for other illnesses.

FrightRider Fri 18-Oct-13 21:19:56

there is.

October is just the nominated 'awareness' month for BC the last few years.

CuppaTeaForTheBigFella Fri 18-Oct-13 21:27:09

But it's not harming anyone is it, and tbf it's made the OP start a thread, and gain responses, so therefore we are all talking about it.

And fwiw I lost my Mum to breast cancer, whilst she was in her forties sad She wasn't overweight, she didn'tsmoke, she hardly drank, and she did exercise regularly!!!

thanks for you and your Mum scarlet

See, I always used to share these kinds of statuses, in empathy with my friend. It meant a lot to her that these types of statuses were shared.

But she is dead now. She passed away 2 weeks ago, leaving behind 3 children. (I posted a lot about her, and was really distressed at the beginning of the month)

I am all for raising awareness, but wont be sharing any dumb statuses any more. Most people have no clue, and by telling them what it means, they just go hmm

"And fwiw I lost my Mum to breast cancer, whilst she was in her forties sad She wasn't overweight, she didn'tsmoke, she hardly drank, and she did exercise regularly!!!"

Sorry about your mum, Cuppa.
I could have said the same about my friend, she was just 41.

thegreylady Fri 18-Oct-13 21:33:46

I have had breast cancer. It is not pink or fluffy nor was I tickled pink in any sense at all. Many of the bc people are know were slim, fit and young. They exercised reguarly and breast fed their children. Many of them died. The so called 'preventative measures' work to some extent for post menopausal women who have hormone positive cancers. The real killers are the inflammatory, the lobular, the hormone negative and the Herceptin positive, the triple negative and the cancers in younger women .
Do you know what it pisses us off to be told we should have done x, y, or z and we could have prevented our cancers because you know what all those women need from you- their 'sisters' not a pink ribbon or a fluffy boa but genuine understanding.
I have been lucky. My triple negative cancer hadn't spread and chemo and rads have kept it at bay for 7 years.
K was a runner she had 11 year old twins and a 5 year old. She died at 40.
J was slight and blonde with a ready giggle, a vegetarian aged 34- she died.
D was newly married and 26 years old she died.
Etc etc etc
IT WAS NOT THEIR FAULT.
They wanted to see their children and grandchildren grow but they died. It isn't fair to say they should have lost weight, eaten more broccoli or been teetotal.
IT WAS NOT THEIR FAULT

CuppaTeaForTheBigFella Fri 18-Oct-13 21:38:45

Thank you quint I'm equally sorry to hear about your friend! and her poor children.
So sad.

weebarra Fri 18-Oct-13 21:40:30

I see your point. I was diagnosed with breast cancer this week. I have two DSs, nearly 6 and 3 and DD who is 8 weeks.
I am fucking terrified. But, I can't abide the pink shite and I'm pretty sure that breast cancer is one of the best "resourced".

TondelayoSchwarzkopf Fri 18-Oct-13 22:00:20

So so so sorry sad I did not mean to imply BC is anyone's fault - I actually KNOW the opposite - the biggest risk factors are your age, your sex and your family history.

The so called 'preventative measures' work to some extent for post menopausal women who have hormone positive cancers. The real killers are the inflammatory, the lobular, the hormone negative and the Herceptin positive, the triple negative and the cancers in younger women

Absolutely.

So sorry if my point about alcohol came across that way. I meant it in the sense that THERE IS ALMOST NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO PREVENT IT - having a very low alcohol intake is the only known measure and that is with certain types of less aggressive cancers as thegreylady says above.

flowers

MrsDeVere Fri 18-Oct-13 22:12:13

Its a fucking load of wankbollocks.

No actually

its a cunting fucking load of crappy wankbollocks.

RenterNomad Fri 18-Oct-13 22:26:46

With regard to risk factors, it's a very hard thing to judge: whether the risk factors can be taken seriously, or whether they are kind of a waste of time, given how many people develop cancers without apparent massive risk factors.

I have a dear school friend who "defied" all those indicators, (she drinks very moderately indeed, eats healthily, exercises, lives well in general, blah, blah, blah), and got breast cancer in her mid-thirties, so it is definitely worth saying that all these chances and probabilities are on very small numbers (though, over the world's population, of course, the numbers are still huge), and there are so many, many tiny factors at work, including environment, that "factors" can, indeed, end up seemingly meaningless.

It's also well worth remembering that past generations died younger, so there may well be genetic factors - which are very important - in cancers, which never "ripened" or were diagnosed. (In my grandmother's case, she was suffering severe Alzheimer's at the end, so it seemed to be considered almost irrelevant that she had skin cancer shock. As she was already massively distressed, day to day, and was not expected to last long enough, it was considered pointless to treat the skin cancer, and I don't imagine it will have been recorded as the cause of her death).

Sorry, that was a bit morbid. All of your stories were told rather less brutally than mine! blush Sorry we are all in this together, though. sad

P.S. My friend lives on the Continent, so they reacted very immediately and aggressively to the breast cancer, so she has got a brilliant prognosis. smile

Manman Fri 18-Oct-13 22:52:03

Thank you for a beautiful post thegreylady.
I was diagnosed with triple negative breast cancer 3 years ago. Am 2 years post treatment now. I am healthy, young, hardly drink, don't smoke etc etc. It is not my fault I got breast cancer.
My mum wasn't so lucky, she died from her bc 11 years ago. She wasn't there for my wedding day or to meet any of her grandchildren.It wasn't her fault.
My heart breaks reading about your friends.

propertyNIGHTmareBEFOREXMAS Fri 18-Oct-13 23:03:12

Agree it is flippant and pointless attention seeking (for self as opposed to breast cancer)

CassCade Fri 18-Oct-13 23:09:33

Just had one of the bra-game posts come through on my email whilst on mumsnet reading about them. I hate these sorts of things too. Now what do I do? Instinct is to ignore the stupid post. How can you link it to something worthwhile?

CuppaTeaForTheBigFella Fri 18-Oct-13 23:24:08

pointless attention seeking shock confused
I've heard it all now!!

Shaky Fri 18-Oct-13 23:31:38

My FB status today was " instead of saying 'I like it on the stairs, I prefer to say be aware of breast cancer' as this is all about cancer awareness, isn't it?"

I was getting naffed off with all the game type posts on FB.

I have just had one of the chain mail messages through and put "OR you could donate to cancer research HERE" with a link to cancer research

tunnocksteacake Fri 18-Oct-13 23:33:03

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Shaky Fri 18-Oct-13 23:33:23

Sorry for wrong punctuation in that post blush

BrianTheMole Fri 18-Oct-13 23:34:55

My FB status today was " instead of saying 'I like it on the stairs, I prefer to say be aware of breast cancer' as this is all about cancer awareness, isn't it?"

Absolutely!!

Shaky Fri 18-Oct-13 23:35:10

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Shaky Fri 18-Oct-13 23:36:54

Oops that was supposed to be a thumbs up picture, sorry.

I m very tired and brain, fingers and iPad are not in sync

tunnocksteacake Fri 18-Oct-13 23:41:24

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

PortoFiendo Sat 19-Oct-13 01:12:17

Cancer is a bastard. Stop all your hand bag stuff, your angel hug stuff, if you don't like this post you are a heartless bastard stuff. It is all meaningless fuckwittery that does nothing at all. It is not imperative to do anything at all, but if you like to make out to your friends that you care, then fucking do something.

CuppaTeaForTheBigFella Sat 19-Oct-13 10:18:20

I DO do something, Thanks. I fundraise for a local hospice that looks after cancer patients, and I have a direct debit leaving my bank every month to Breast cancer and cancer research charities.
But of course, I'm only making out that I care. I don't really give a shit that I lost my Mum to breast cancer ffs hmm

foofooyeah Sat 19-Oct-13 10:34:41

what really pisses me off is that 'get your tatas out!' Go braless one.

Facing a double MX I wont have any bloody tatas to get out.

Bet a bloke thought that one up.

buffyp Sat 19-Oct-13 11:23:35

I agree Tunnocks. I lost my son nearly a month ago now to what we now know was a very aggressive tumour that is extremely rare in children. Unfortunately he died from complications after surgery so he didn't even get a chance to fight it however the staff were all brilliant. I wish you and your dh and family all the best and hope he beats the odds. I was shocked to discover how little money goes to brain tumour research and personally I will be directing my money straight to them in future.

radiatormesh Sat 19-Oct-13 11:45:38

grey - I've name changed but was flowers and I agree. I'm really sorry if I upset you: I was fearful my post would have that effect.

Lifestyle changes are ways in which we can try to avoid BC, although they obviously make no difference in the majority of cases. BUT I still believe that they are worth telling people about, since they will help some. Of course nobody causes their cancer (unless you smoke, in which case my sympathy is limited I'm afraid) but being proactive can help some people (and is good for our health in any event).

And FWIW I developed my cancer 6m after my baby was born, whilst breastfeeding (I was myself BF for 9m), never been overweight, exercised daily etc etc. I'm also proof that 'lifestyle' is often irrelevant, but I still believe we need to try to do something.

SmiteYouWithThunderbolts Sat 19-Oct-13 11:52:09

This game has fucked me off this week. My bloody brilliant and lovely ex-MIL died on Monday from cancer, so to open my inbox and see this shite brought out the angry face.

AndYouCanDance Sat 19-Oct-13 12:00:18

Agreed.

But I am totally behind HoneyBooBoo's Fuck Off Fucking Cancer campaign.
Except maybe we should change it to Feck Off to avoid alarming the pearl clutchers? grin

MrsDeVere Sat 19-Oct-13 12:22:23

buffy I am so sorry to hear about your son.
flowers

MrsDeVere Sat 19-Oct-13 12:24:33

foofoo exactly! How the fuck can asking women 'show us your tits' be a sensitive way of raising awareness for women dealing with the loss or potential loss of their breast/s?

Women who are coming to terms with their new body and how they see themselves?

Oh yeah, show lots of pictures of young, 'perfect' women with their norks out.

Fucking ridiculous.

Pobblewhohasnotoes Sat 19-Oct-13 12:30:36

Someone on fb has justified it saying it might get women to check their breasts.

It might, but why not just post a link telling women (and men) how to do that correctly.

AndYouCanDance Sat 19-Oct-13 12:40:07

Oh no! So sorry buffyp thanks

buffyp Sat 19-Oct-13 14:52:28

Thanks for the kind words. I have no objection to raising awareness of breast cancer and have supported it often myself, I just wish all cancers got equal awareness and help with fundraising too. I agree that these games are totally bizarre and don't really acheive anything.

Personally, whilst i'm aware it's a good thing i'm fed up of all the attention focussed on breast cancer full stop. There are many other cancers out there which are big killers and barely get a mention.

Pancreatic cancer for example killed my mum, the survival rate for this cancer is something like 5% , it kills near on 8000 people each year. the symptoms are pretty much none existent ie they're the sort you'd ignore......who'd go to the doctors with mild tummy pain and a bad case of the windy millers ?? Of course by the time you get any symptoms. (( in my mums case she woke up one day, looked in the mirror and had gone bright yellow )) We did the kind thing, took the piss because she looked like an Oompa loompa.......of course by then it was killing her. And it did within 6 months.

The symptoms of cancer need highlighting, especially the silent types, but that goes for all cancers, not just the ones which primarily effect women and sending silly posts around facebook isn't the way to do it. If some idiots had been posting shite such as 'I like it hanging out the window' in the months leading up to my mums diagnosis in relation to pancreatic cancer i'd have been beyond angry. If people must 'campaign' FFS, spread awareness of the symptoms.

EvaBeaversProtege Sat 19-Oct-13 16:13:20

My beautiful sister was 32 when she was diagnosed.

She has had surgery, will have reconstruction in time, is receiving Herceptin & taking tamoxifin.

Me not wearing a bra, posting where I like it etc won't make her feel better.

My sister is a very positive person, her attitude is getting her through this. Well, that & her two very young children.

TondelayoSchwarzkopf Sat 19-Oct-13 16:18:23

buffyp flowers sad

PortoFiendo Sat 19-Oct-13 16:56:38

CuppaTea - I was referring to people who just post stuff on FB without even thinking about it. I know how much this upsets people who are genuinely suffering. I am really sorry about your mum, and of course did not mean anyone who does actively do something. My mum died of cancer too. It is shit.

struggling100 Sat 19-Oct-13 17:49:43

I just want to say one thing to all those women with a family history of breast cancer, especially those with a first degree relative diagnosed under the age of 50...

Guidance from NICE has changed recently. There is a high risk breast screening programme available on the NHS (including screening with MRI) and many of you may qualify, but it is not being offered by all Trusts yet. PLEASE pester your GP about it. Many women should be offered genetic counselling and/or testing.

tunnocksteacake Sat 19-Oct-13 17:55:36

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

thegreylady Sat 19-Oct-13 21:46:59

I wasn't offended by your post flowers I just thought there was another pov worth expressing.
I'll support any 'cancer is crap' campaign to the hilt.
My lovely mum died of myeloma [hardly heard of] and my gran of ovarian cancer.

CuppaTeaForTheBigFella Sat 19-Oct-13 22:08:20

porto Thank you, I'm really sorry to hear you have lost your Mum too.

Apologies to all actually, if I have been a bit shitty in my defensive views about this. I guess it just hit a nerve, and upset me. I didn't mean to be rude blush

LackaDAISYcal Sun 20-Oct-13 00:15:14

So far this year I have ignored the few messages I've had, but after reading this have posted I like it here: and linked to the cancer research donation page.
I haven't had anyone in my close family affected but family of friends have and we have our fair share of other cancers in our family.
Hiding behind twee messages will not raise awareness. YABNU Chaos.

AnaisHellWitch Sun 20-Oct-13 00:23:58

I'm over forty and adopted . For all I know there could be a history of breast cancer in both sides of my biological family. Is there any provision for early screening when these things are unknown?

"It might, but why not just post a link telling women (and men) how to do that correctly."

Because teenage girls and many others "blank out" what they are not really interested in, these random status's grabs people's attention and is then noticed daily, so keeps them interested, if only to complain about them.

I have seen plenty of instructions for examining the breasts etc amongst all of the frippery.

I don't know anyone who hasn't been affected by cancer. My middle DD (17) has posted an ending to the "I like" campaign, her best friend died at 18 from an undiagnosed brain tumour, my DH died of cancer, her cousin died at 23 after multiple surgeries from a female cancer, my Mum has lung cancer, I could go on.

My point is, don't assume that you are anymore affected than anyone who does indulge in this. I have seen these types of campaigns starting conversation that without them, wouldn't of taken place.

Some people are not interested in randomly finding out about health matters. It takes these sort of campaigns on social media sites to get them interested.

MN isn't a good cross representative of the general population IMO, that these campaigns are aimed at, posters on here are better informed, interested in important health issues and want to talk about those issues, rather than Cleb culture etc.

There are people who only read when the log into FB and most things pass them by. Some people use the television adverts as a chance to go the toilet and get a drink etc.

I think sometimes posters on MN widely over estimate the intellectual level of many in our society, tbh.

AndYouCanDance Sun 20-Oct-13 01:41:16

Interesting post Birds. Not being sarcastic - you have genuinely made me think.

Also, ApocalypseCheese your post made me sad, and then happy and then sad again. Your family sounds lovely and fun and your Mum was no doubt fortunate to be a part of it thanks.

BrianTheMole Sun 20-Oct-13 01:51:31

Good post birds. Food for thought.

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