to think that not that many mothers have time to 30-60 minute workouts every morning?

(209 Posts)
showtunesgirl Fri 18-Oct-13 15:47:01

Apparently that's what Maria Kang does.

Now I only have one almost two year old and just can't figure out how you would fit that in with even with one child let alone the three that Maria Kang has.

If anyone out there also does this, can you please let me know your secret?

Pagwatch Fri 18-Oct-13 15:48:24

Well my gym has a crèche ..

She has a SAHP who supports her in this. That's how.

UsedToBeNDP Fri 18-Oct-13 15:49:00

Nap time
School age children
Getting up earlier than they do
Doing it once they're in bed
Handing them over to DP/H
Gym crèche

Dumpylump Fri 18-Oct-13 15:49:03

Does she also have, y'know, staff ?

tripecity Fri 18-Oct-13 15:50:08

i did jillian michaels shred dvd every morning at 6.30am and lost loads of weight and i have 3 small kids. If you really are sick of being unfit or overweight or both you set your alarm and just get it done before everyone gets up

Sirzy Fri 18-Oct-13 15:50:42

I get up half an hour early each morning in order to be able to do some exercise. I figured it was the only way i was ever going to change my weight.

(and before people get defensive I in no way expect everyone would be able to/want to do that its just what works for me!)

UsedToBeNDP Fri 18-Oct-13 15:50:56

You may find it difficult or prioritise other things, but it isn't impossible

(My posts aren't meant to be patronising, I'm just suggesting that there are ways to do it)

showtunesgirl Fri 18-Oct-13 15:51:28

Ah that I didn't know MrsTerryPratchett.

I did read the bit about how she didn't have two nannies but I guess she neglected to mention that she did have a SAHP!

juneau Fri 18-Oct-13 15:52:22

I could, if I spent DS2's nap working out. In fact, I really SHOULD, as I'm horribly unfit at the moment and I would dearly love to look like Maria Kang. Maybe after half-term ...

showtunesgirl Fri 18-Oct-13 15:52:23

tripecity I used to do Shred before I was pregnant but it is absolutely the worst thing to do if you have diastasis recti which I do unfortunately have.

GaryBuseysTeeth Fri 18-Oct-13 15:53:05

I do it when they're asleep, napping during the day or when Dh is here to parent.

Most gyms around here have a creche.

PTFO Fri 18-Oct-13 15:53:17

My gym also had a crèche and I would go three/four times a week inc swimming when dh was home in the evening/w/ends. It was a lifeline to me though. I also did dvd's when ds was asleep. I also have a crosstrainer. weights etc at home so fitted bits in here and there However I didn't work. I also had family support.

oh and PND!!

PlatinumStart Fri 18-Oct-13 15:54:21

Yep half an hour earlier here - and a nanny who will step in if DC4 wakes up. I'm so bloody tired. Hopefully soon I'll be thin and tired grin

TooTabooToBOOOOO Fri 18-Oct-13 15:55:49

YANBU. Plus, where does she get her energy from.?

My exercise is pram based, I go for long walks to the shop/town or my parent's and that's exhausting on top of everything else. DS is 7mo, DD is 9yo and I'm a single parent.

Sometimes I find it hard to get the energy to wash the dishes, let alone do a workout.

Redbug Fri 18-Oct-13 15:56:03

I used to get up at 5:30am and do it before everyone was up and DH left for work. It's possible for many (not all) people to fit in exercise if they want to badly enough.

Pagwatch Fri 18-Oct-13 15:56:28

Plus, it seems to be her job.
I have no clue who she is but if she is selling her image then being fit is her job.

Anomaly Fri 18-Oct-13 15:57:11

I have no idea who she is. But I'd hazard a guess that looking good is her job. If I got paid to work out then I would no doubt would.

tripecity Fri 18-Oct-13 15:57:16

fair call, but there are tons of other 25min workouts on youtube, I'm sure you could find a suitable one and do it before the house stirs

I too had to stop for health reasons and was gutted (nothing at all to do with exercise, its degenerative and serious)

TooTabooToBOOOOO Fri 18-Oct-13 15:58:58

Just realised it's you Showy! <waves>

Gyms involve having money
I currently do the shred holding my breast when I'm doing star jumps etc as I'm having to wait before I can afford to buy a sports bra.

There are so many reasons though why people can't exercise easily and I find her comments unfair. Just thinking of my friends off the top of my head I have friends with fibro, arthritis and ehlers- danlos. I have friends who are skint and get next to no time to themselves without children , when they do they may use it to have dental treatment or try and actually have a social life.

Her view is so simplistic and I would have thought that after what happened to her husband she would understand that life is never that black and white.

TooTabooToBOOOOO Fri 18-Oct-13 16:01:05

I'd rather have more sleep than get up and exercise, nothing short of an earthquake would get me up earlier than necessary grin

*s- I have two grin

Heartbrokenmum73 Fri 18-Oct-13 16:04:01

Hard to tell anything from the link as it's just a picture and I really cba to look the woman up, but maybe she's also one of those lucky women who has a great metabolism and bounces back after pregnancy.

I know someone who's had three kids (the youngest two pretty close together) and she was back in her size 10 jeans within two weeks of giving birth each time.

Some people could exercise just like Maria Kang and not achieve the same results. I doubt that I would!

I would be covered in stretch marks for starters heartsgrin

That's not to say I don't think she's impressive, I do. I admire anyone who wants to do something good and puts the effort in whatever that is.

CoolStoryBro Fri 18-Oct-13 16:05:45

If you can't find 45 minutes, you can probably find 3 15 minute intervals to work out in? When mine were tiny, I would put the babies to bed and work out with my toddler doing it next to me, until he got bored and went to play. We also had a routine where DH knew 3x a week, I was leaving to run as soon as he walked through the door. It was the only thing that kept me sane!

I don't look anything like Maria Kang though!! grin

lotsofcheese Fri 18-Oct-13 16:06:35

I really struggle to find the time - got to bed last night at 10.30pm. & up at 5.15 with 6 month DD. DS is 4 & walks/dithers at a snails pace so fast walking doesn't happen. He's only in nursery 2.5 hrs a day & by the time I get there/back, feed baby, do housework, I'm out of time. DP works long hours (out yesterday at 6am, back 9.30pm).

I really struggle to prioritise myself.

Stravy Fri 18-Oct-13 16:10:17

I have a friend in the public eye who used to get up at 5am to exercise for an hour before work but tbf she was kind of closeted insomuch as a car would pick her up at 6 and she could shower/change on set and had all her meals provided but given that she would work long hours I would have rolled out of bed at 5.59 am if I was her.

I do shred spasmodically after youngest dcs are in bed and elder ones are reading in bed.

I get up early.

PenguinDancer Fri 18-Oct-13 16:18:56

I think most people could if they really wanted to but the amount of determination you would need would be crazy.

SanityClause Fri 18-Oct-13 16:21:10

I could if I got up at 5:00 am.

ATM, I get up at 5:45, so if I got up a bit earlier, I could squeeze it in.

Heartbrokenmum73 Fri 18-Oct-13 16:21:26

Just on a tangent, as it's been mentioned a few times now, is The Shred any good?

Jillian Michaels is a bit scary!

Out of interest, the people who say, I get up early or I exercise when the children are asleep, do you leave the house or is it mainly exercise videos and the like?

insertsomethingwitty Fri 18-Oct-13 16:25:49

I think if you want to do something then you find the time for it. I have three small children, I get up at 5:20 in the morning and run between 7-13 miles before getting the bigger ones ready for school. I do have a partner asleep in bed when I go which allows me to leave the children but if I didn't I would find time elsewhere as it is a priority for me. Everyone gets the same 24 hours in a day you fit into that the things that you want to make time for. For me being fit is a priority over lying in bed for an extra two hours that I would have done at that time otherwise.

It's fucking hard heart ( probably because I am incredibly unfit) but just about manageable if that makes sense. It's good because I feel less likely to give up though did stop for a while when I was ill.

The main thing I have learned is to make myself a healthy sandwich before hand because it makes me starving and I don't have the energy to make anything so would eat easy crap otherwise

I find a way to fit it in. You have to be motivated to do it, inventive and willing to just drop stuff and shoehorn it in to the day.

I have one school aged child and one 2yo. There are myriad ways you can fit in exercise:

- Go running with a decent running pushchair (I have a bike trailer which doubles up as this)

- Get a seat on your bike and go cycling

- Go for a run when dp/a friend/parents are willing to do half an hour's babysitting

- Get your 2yo to 'join in' with a workout. 2yo ds has papier maché weights!

- Use your toddler as a work out aid. I find chasing him/spinning him round/ a good run/scoot round park works up a good sweat if you put in enough effort. Plus we dance together a lot

- Ditch the car, walk everywhere. Walk extra. Always take the stairs.

- And yes, get up earlier. I get up an hour earlier atm and am doing the insanity workout

I had a diastasis recti which I fixed with exercise and the Tupler Technique. There's a lot of exercise out there which actively help and plenty which won't hurt.

cathpip Fri 18-Oct-13 16:39:21

I go running......with a double buggy smile

catgirl1976 Fri 18-Oct-13 16:45:00

*If you really are sick of being unfit or overweight or both you set your
alarm and just get it done before everyone gets up*


I could do.

But that would mean setting my alarm for 5am. It would also mean DS would doubtless wake up as I crept past his room any way.


IfYouLoveSomebodyLetThemSleep Fri 18-Oct-13 16:48:23

I could have time for it, easily. I just choose to be lazy instead grin

YouTheCat Fri 18-Oct-13 16:56:50

Yeah, I could have chosen to get up at 5 after 4 hours of broken sleep when mine were small. Or I could have gone for a run at 10pm when my ex got back, steaming, from the pub with a big old 'MUG ME' sign above my head.

But I couldn't afford a nice double pushchair. I had a crap 2nd hand one with no brakes. I couldn't afford a bike either and I don't think they make double carriers (or at least they didn't 18 years ago). There was no one to look after my little bundles of joy so I could go out and exercise. The 2 sq metres of floor space wasn't enough room for a workout and we didn't have enough for a video anyway.

It might well be easy for those with decent, supportive partners to pursue fitness. But please don't assume that it is all soooo easy for everyone else.

HardFacedCareeristBitchNigel Fri 18-Oct-13 17:06:25

I go to the gym en route home from work for an hour. Either DH is at home or parents have DD, they are all supportive of me keeping fit so not an issue.

As for "no energy to do it", exercising breeds energy as you feel better about yourself. I feel like a new woman since starting exercising again, it has a positive effect on not only your fitness and body but also your seratonin levels, ability to focus and channelling anger and frustration.

Healthy food + exercise is key in staying healthy, happy and productive IMHO

TEErickOrTEEreat Fri 18-Oct-13 17:08:44

My school run, which is a walk, is 3 miles round trip.

That's my work out.

showtunesgirl Fri 18-Oct-13 17:16:06

Thanks for your stories ladies.

I'm one of the lucky ones that does have a sleeper so have been doing MuTu in the evenings until recently when a bad bout of asthma put paid to that for a while.

But my main thing was about doing it in the mornings. It does sound as though you just have to get up early and dear Gods I am NOT a morning person.

I'm also currently going through a long patch of not sleeping well. DD and DH maybe sleeping well but I'm up every two hours. I wish I knew why but I probably get one good night's sleep a week and the rest of the week I am up and down like a yoyo. So frustrating. sad

I'm also so sad about my diastasis recti as I used to go to kickboxing aerobics twice a week before I was pregnant. It was proper hardcore interval based aerobics and I loved it but now it's not doable.

fatlazymummy Fri 18-Oct-13 17:35:52

Maria Kang is a fitness model, who has been competing in fitness for years, before she ever had children. So most women aren't going to look like her, no matter how much shredding or running they do.
Having said that, I think it is important not to make excuses. I used to keep fit through lots of walking, and doing fitness videos when my kids were in bed. I think there are usually things we can do, even if it's only a few minutes here and tgere throughout the day.

wasabipeanut Fri 18-Oct-13 17:41:38

I get up early to shred before 3 x DC's are up and about. Actually DS1 and DD are usually awake but keep to their rooms until 6.30-7 when I get DS1 to Fi his reading. Getting up at anything from 5.50 - 6.15am isn't fun but I like the way exercise makes me feel - apart from when I'm actually going it of course. FWIW I like the shred because I can do it private, not go out on cold, dark mornings and apart from the fiver the DVD cost plus some cheap hand weights its pretty much free. I can't afford a gym membership .

However I have reasonable sleepers and plenty of room. That all helps. I think assuming that every mother can fit exercise in just because I do is a bit twatty.

Lazysuzanne Fri 18-Oct-13 17:43:18

I find that Maria Kang picture rather irritating and smug, you dont need an excuse not to exercise, it's not bloody compulsory.
If you have some free time and want to spend it exercising then go ahead and do it...dont expect a medal, exercise is mostly done for personal gratification, nothing wrong with that but dont make out like you're discovering a cure for cancer hmm

wasabipeanut Fri 18-Oct-13 17:44:02

Also have to point out that my max exercise window is 30 mins daily and I have not a fucking clue who Maria Kang is.

RenterNomad Fri 18-Oct-13 17:45:11

The trouble with "just getting up before everyone else" is that the little buggers then wake up (well, one of mine, anyway) !

Ragwort Fri 18-Oct-13 17:46:52

It's not so much the time .............. it's the motivation grin.

showtunesgirl Fri 18-Oct-13 17:47:55

Yes, how DO you stop the rest of the house from waking up as well if you get up early to exercise?

I'm pretty sure I'm a thumping elephant when I exercise!

SirChenjin Fri 18-Oct-13 17:48:43

Who is Maria Kang when she's at home?

I WOHM, so the mornings are frantic enough as it is with 5 of us trying to get out of the house. No fucking way am I getting up at stupid o'clock to go running in the freezing cold. I stick on an exercise DVD a couple of times a week in the evening, play badminton one evening, and try to walk/cycle whenever I can. That's the extent of my exercising.

GaryBuseysTeeth Fri 18-Oct-13 17:49:08

Jayne, I do mostly inside/fitness video stuff.
If you have sky channel 282 is fitness tv, they also (there's another workout channel around there that isn't so good), they have really good shows (mostly) if you don't know what sort of dvd you want, 2nd hand dvd's are really cheap on eBay.

If you don't want to do dvds, a kettle bell is a fantastic option, and you can pick one up for £7-ish (I read Mens Health for their workout guides and adapt them for my feeble lady strength, usually less reps/weight).
Argos often have their fitness stuff on offer (got a swiss ball for £3 from there last year).

DS2 is 10wks old & my pelvic floor is not what it used to be so I don't go jogging very often blush

HardFacedCareeristBitchNigel Fri 18-Oct-13 17:50:44

exercise is mostly done for personal gratification

Keeping healthy is only for personal gratification ?

SkinnybitchWannabe Fri 18-Oct-13 17:52:25

Ive got 3 children and plenty of time to work out..I just cant be bothered blush

Lazysuzanne Fri 18-Oct-13 17:54:52

Hardfaced, I'm pretty sure the amount that she does is well over what's needed just to be healthy!

apparently she has sparked a row, she responded '"I'm sorry you took an image and resonated with it in such a negative way,"

'resonated with it'?? confused

SHarri13 Fri 18-Oct-13 17:59:57

I go in the evenings when my husband gets home, I'm a night person and really, really not a morning person. I only do 2-3 times a week though.

When dt's were little I ran with them in pushchair. They are almost 4 now and too heavy and refuse to use pram. I'm a stone heavier. But hey hoo! Too tired after work and looking after kids! I just go for walks with kids and dog and figure I'll get more energy and time in due course. Life has changed...... Can't afford gym or nanny .

Meglet Fri 18-Oct-13 18:03:41

Yes, mine wake up too if I get up early angry. The downfall of a tiny open plan house with paper walls.

I do work out. But it's generally at the gym. Whenever I do Shred they get right under me and I end up shouting in case I drop a weight on them.

GaryBuseysTeeth Fri 18-Oct-13 18:05:07

Josh Sundquist (paralympic athlete) & Jesse Levine (body builder) are both one legged & both use similar 'what's your excuse' styles & none have attracted as much controversy as Maria Kang, is it because she's a mother/woman? Or because they've done it in adverse conditions?

Jesse's facebook, have a gander at the banner image

Josh's meme

ErrolTheDragon Fri 18-Oct-13 18:06:39

>'"I'm sorry you took an image and resonated with it in such a negative way,"

There's nothing wrong with the image... its the caption 'whats your excuse' which I thought was very hmm - no understanding of other women's lives.

Lazysuzanne Fri 18-Oct-13 18:16:05

GaryBusey, good point!
I find Jesse and Josh just as patronizing but it's much harder to stick your neck out and say so because they are seen as heroic, obviously they've both been incredibly tough and determined but that was their choice

To me it would seem ok to say something like 'if I can do it so can you' , but the 'whats your excuse' thing suggests that everyone else ought to have the same goals as they do

DrCoconut Fri 18-Oct-13 18:28:24

I want to get fit. My ambition is to run a marathon in 2017 to commemorate what would have been my dads 100th birthday. I will be 40. I was not a sporty child, despised PE and don't really do exercise now. I would need someone to do it with me to keep on track. Everyone so far has pretty much laughed and poo pooed the idea of me running to the corner shop let alone a marathon. I am also really tired due to work and a 2 year old who is not a great sleeper and i have diastasis recti that I'm scared of making worse so that's my excuse at the moment. I don't even know where to start to be honest. I can't afford equipment for home in terms of cash or space and have no budget for a personal trainer.

HaPPy8 Fri 18-Oct-13 18:31:02

I get up at 530. Its hard and i'm ready for bed by 830pm!

YouTheCat Fri 18-Oct-13 18:35:13

I cannot abide the inability to consider for one minute that other people's lives might not afford the same amount of time to do something.

'If I can do it, so can you' can fuck the fuck off.

Lazysuzanne Fri 18-Oct-13 18:38:16

DrCoconut, I'd say take care of the diastus recti first, I'm no expert on this but I did look into it a bit and (from what I can see) there's some good info on the net.

Can you tread water now and then make a start on the running project when you've got more time & energy?

Sparklysilversequins Fri 18-Oct-13 18:45:40

I did when ex still lived here and do still if I am lucky enough to have family staying. Set the Alarm for six - 10 km run. It's the thing I like the most about having family to stay or going to stay with friends or family blush.

PlatinumStart Fri 18-Oct-13 18:46:16

I'll be honest, I have the means (pool and gym where I live, a PT from time to time, a DH at home and a nanny to help with the childcare, a car takes me to work and so I can do my makeup on route etc etc)

But I leave the house at 7am and am away 12 hours - when I get home I want to see the kids and then have a glass of wine and watch trash. Whilst I do get up at the moment it's so bloody hard and really not sustainable

Meglet Fri 18-Oct-13 19:09:30

sparkly me too. I go on holiday with family every year. Within minutes of arriving at the cottage I've got my trainers on and head off for a run. Same if I go to mums house for a meal, I get a run and shower in before food.

Sparklysilversequins Fri 18-Oct-13 19:18:19

Meglet when I stay with my parents from Friday - Sunday I am like grin because I will get three runs in before back home and no more runs for ages unless ds will come on his scooter or bike and even then he can't manage more than 4-5km so it's not a real run.

showtunesgirl Fri 18-Oct-13 19:38:37

All these running MNetters. thud

Running is something I don't do due to my flat feet. Pounding the pavements just makes them worse. Even at aerobics I used to have to step out moves like jacks as my feet couldn't take it.

DrCoconut look up MuTu System. I've only been doing it for a while and I've seen good results and the support system is brilliant.

missorinoco Fri 18-Oct-13 19:48:55

OP, if they were she wouldn't be writing a blog.

hakunamatata8 Fri 18-Oct-13 19:52:06

I dont have a problem with her, as she makes time for exercise because it is important to her and she looks damn good. Im a lardass but tha'ts by choice and lazyness.

SprinkleLiberally Fri 18-Oct-13 19:57:05

I probably could. But I get to work at 7.30. Work in the evenings til tennish. Have the kids in between work and dh coming in. So yes I could fit it in at 5.30 am I suppose. But life is frankly hard enough and the small amount of free time I do have, I'd rather enjoy.

eggyhead Fri 18-Oct-13 20:03:19

Is she also the CEO of a FTSE 100?


SecretWitch Fri 18-Oct-13 20:06:17

I do 45 mins of cardio and 15mins of strength training four times a week. I am a sahm with three children. I go to the gym as soon as I get my youngest daughter off to school. I need to exercise to keep my joints functioning and must keep my weight in check so my prosthetic leg fits well....and well, I like to eat cheeseburgers..

comewinewithmoi Fri 18-Oct-13 20:14:34

Fit shaming mothers? angry cowbag

Imwoodword Fri 18-Oct-13 20:16:53

I have a 4 year old and a 1 year old who does not sleep. I go to the gym 2-3 times a week (crèche on site) and then do a DVD workout 6 times a week at the moment (Insanity).

The eldest joins in as much as he can, or watches the iPad and the baby totters around playing with toys and trying to jump with me.

Same as anything, if you want it enough you find a way I guess!

TooTabooToBOOOOO Fri 18-Oct-13 20:54:23

I actually can not fit in exercise other than walking (of which I do a LOT and it is helping with weight loss)

I live in a 2 up, 2 down. My DS sleeps in my room. My living room is tiny. Other than walking, there is no hope of exercising in my house - even tried the Shred and gave up as was bouncing off walls or kicking furniture.

I know exercise gives you energy BUT fuck that, when I do my hour+ walk I am buggered by the end of the day - there's no way I could then get up early, after very interrupted sleep <glares at DS> every night.

So, while it probably is possible to squeeze it in, it is not always the best idea if you are already on your knees just trying to run the house and your general life.

However, I know that DS will not be 7mo and a velcro baby forever and then I plan to do allsorts - pilates and a cardio class being high on the agenda sleep being higher at the moment

chrome100 Fri 18-Oct-13 21:05:35

I used to get up at 4:30am to go running. Not gonna lie - it was pretty awful, but it was the only way I could fit it in.

GinOnTwoWheels Fri 18-Oct-13 21:23:23

If you do the school run on foot, could you run home? And back again to collect them.

Take them to the park and do lots of sprints/lunges/step ups while they play?

Play with them with balls/football/catch/chase/whatever.

TooTabooToBOOOOO Fri 18-Oct-13 21:28:39

that's my idea Gin - exercise whilst doing essential stuff, then it doesnt feel like exercise and you got important stuff (entertaining the kids) thrown in too! grin

So saying, my 9 almost 10 year old would die of embarrassment if I tried to do lunges in the park grin

MrsTittleMouse Fri 18-Oct-13 21:42:09

This kind of thing drives my DH nuts - he hates fitness experts telling us how it only takes x minutes a day to exercise, and then chefs telling us to cook a fresh meal from scratch every day, and money experts telling us to keep a spending diary and so on. Of course it's important to them, it's their bloody job! He always says that he wouldn't go up to a chef and tell them that they really must do an experiment a day, so they can sod off. grin

Of course exercise is important, but if I'd had a photo taken with my two at that age it would have been the baby stuck permanently to my breast with the toddler hitting me over the head with a book and trying to climb onto me to push the baby off. Velcro wasn't the half of it. I could never have left them with my lovely Mum, let alone a creche. Neither slept and the youngest woke up at 4.30am until she was 18 months. Now that they are bigger, I exercise. It's not the end of the world to be kind to yourself and just do what you need to do when your children are little.

Newrowsees Fri 18-Oct-13 21:54:38

I kind of see what she means. For me, watching television was probably the biggest time suck before I started exercising. I suppose it depends on what 'being kind to yourself' means - to me that means prioritising exercise so that I can eat well and still feel good about what I look like. It's not munching mindlessly in front of the telly all evening, which is what I was doing before.

MummytoMog Fri 18-Oct-13 22:00:37

I could not give even the tiniest fuck about what she prioritises in her life - I prioritise sleeping in the morning, sitting on the sofa in the evening and eating fuckloads of cake.

Obvs I look a-ma-zing.

(That may be a lie)

Want2bSupermum Fri 18-Oct-13 22:06:51

I do a pilates class every saturday at 8am. I jump in the car at 7.45am no matter what and go.

During the week I exercise as much as I can. I take the stairs at work and try to walk when I can. It isn't easy. I would like this lady to live my life for a week and then come out with her comments. I worked 48hrs Mon-Thurs and today I will have done another 8 or so. When I get home there isn't much time for anything midweek and I have to get the chores done that DH forgets to do.

LaFataMalvagia Fri 18-Oct-13 22:34:53

It's not just fancy gyms that have creches.

I used to have a summer job in the creche of my local council leisure centre/pool. It was pretty cheap, about £2.50 for a 1.5h session. Plus swimming on a weekday morning was cheap too.

howrudeforme Fri 18-Oct-13 22:56:03

I'm either at work or at home looking after ds. I get up at 6am to do housework.I come home and it's the same until 7pm when I bath ds and then get him to do homework - then it's his bed time. I have to tidy up and iron. I watch about 3 hours of tv per month.

I have zero time to do anything for me. I was a gym bunny before I had ds. I tried to get him into tennis - he hated it (my way of getting fit).

I've given up. Not an excuse. I refuse to get up any earlier than 6am.

oliveoctagon Fri 18-Oct-13 22:57:18

I did more than this most days during my maternity leave. I do lots of exercise now I have the both of them. I love exercise, and once they are 2 they can join in.

Crowler Fri 18-Oct-13 23:05:08

Running is a great equalizer. It's free, and most everyone can find 30 min 3x a week to get out and do it. 99% of the population doesn't need "staff" to run.

I enjoy heaping abuse on celebrities as much as anyone else does (like Gwyneth Paltrow for example), but there is no amount of money that makes exercise easier.

I would discount people who are seriously sleep-deprived from this equation (new mothers, people working 2 jobs etc) but for everyone else, just be honest and when you're saying you don't have time, strike that and say it's not a priority.

Darkesteyes Sat 19-Oct-13 00:47:15

Ive been out walking every day for 2 months. I lost 3 and a half pounds by myself and the last half stone at Slimming World 10 and a half pounds altogether in 2 months. Power walking is all i can do. I cant afford a sports bra at the mo either and even if i could i cant afford the gym AND Slimming World It costs to do this diet. i tried short bursts of running on a walk last week and my 38K breasts were bloody sore afterwards.
Sports bras this size are hard to find. Im not willing to risk damaging my breast tissue cos i cant see the damage being rectified for free hmm And i have no DC

Darkesteyes Sat 19-Oct-13 00:49:38

CrowlerFri 18-Oct-13 23:05:08

Running is a great equalizer. It's free, and most everyone can find 30 min 3x a week to get out and do it. 99% of the population doesn't need "staff" to run.

Errr since when can you get running shoes, sports bras and the correct trousers for free.

Strokethefurrywall Sat 19-Oct-13 04:10:25

I used to get up at 3am on Saturday mornings and train for my marathon back in January because it was the only time when I could get 17 miles in and be back for when 9 month old DS would wake up and DH would go to work.

It was also the only time on this crazy island where the temperature during the tropical summer drops lower than 85oF and I could run "comfortably".

That said, I would never ever judge someone for not exercising, nor does it ever cross my mind to think "if I can do it, so can you" - why the fuck should anyone else feel obliged to keep fit just because some mother of 3 who's job it is to stay fit, makes a statement that implies that someone else is a lesser person because they don't look sculpted?

If you have the time to exercise and enjoy it, great. If you don't, that's no biggie either.

SirChenjin Sat 19-Oct-13 08:31:20

I actually don't sleep. That's how I fit in my exercise.

oliveoctagon Sat 19-Oct-13 08:34:22

Darkeyes - Its cheap. Most healthy people already have trainers and suitable trousers as they can be bought very cheap. Anyone can keep fit if they want to, its just some people choose not to which is fair enough.

I walk around 20 miles a week with buggy, do a very physical job 40-50 hours a week, and also do running/exercise on top. A colleague started at my work and lost half a stone in a month. Once you are doing this kind of level of movement you are energetic and feel great.

SirChenjin Sat 19-Oct-13 08:37:17

Having a physical job that you have to do each day. The majority of us are sitting at desks - it's very hard/impossible to fit 40-50 hours of physical exercise on top of a 10-12 hour working day followed by the usual home stuff/ferrying kids to things/etc.

SirChenjin Sat 19-Oct-13 08:37:56

Having a physical job that you have to do each day is key - is what I meant to say

oliveoctagon Sat 19-Oct-13 08:43:19

Obviously I am at an advantage but I dont own a car I walk everywhere fast up hills with buggy and shopping. To me there is no such thing as leisurely pace. I am as slim and toned as maria and its a combination of genes, loving exercise and its something I enjoy.

SirChenjin Sat 19-Oct-13 08:45:12

That's great you have a physical job, can walk to work and to the shops, you're very lucky.

oliveoctagon Sat 19-Oct-13 08:50:28

Tbf I used to work in an office for years but have always maintained very high levels if exercise, and on maternity. I dont mind people saying they dont want to exercise, but everyone does have time. I kept up many hours during maternity. If you want to exercise thers is always time, even if working in a sitting down job with children

SirChenjin Sat 19-Oct-13 09:01:11

Everyone has some time - very few people are saying they have no time, but it's very difficult if you're working long hours with minimal breaks, numerous children to look after/ferry about, DH/P's who also work long hours, etc etc to fit in a sustained level of exercising.

What we can do is do what we can do, but this competitive exercising from Maria Kang et al isn't helpful.

oliveoctagon Sat 19-Oct-13 09:08:50

I know I am phyical in work but I do lots on my own outside of work and dh isnt here any of the dcs waking hours in week, we live in block of flats, no space etc. Any outside of work exercise kids are always with me.

My 5 year old knows all the fitness blender routines. I will walk wherever I can. When babies were young I had them in sling until 1 year and that is hard work when you are as small as me. People saying where do you find energy will find out once they exercise a lot they have more and more energy. The more you do, the more you want to do.

ch1a Sat 19-Oct-13 09:09:24

I put on 4 stone when I was pregnant. I ate good food but way too much - had always been a tiny size 6 and I don't know what came over me! Felt miserable for ages and when he was 2 years 6 months I suddenly thought no more. I had gradually lost 1.5stone after having him but no more. I had been making so many excuses but none really stood up, I just hadn't been emotionally ready to deal with it!

In the last 6 months I have been to the gym at least 3 or 4 times a week and doing the occasional shred at home just substituting the stuff that is bad for my diastasis for Tupper technique exercises. I am now 2.5 stone lighter and much fitter and stronger. I just joined the council gym, started swimming then rowing then weights and now do combination of all three. My oh works late but I have made him promise to come home 2 days a week by 8.15 so I can get an hour and a half in at the gym before they close at 10. Also I go once at the weekend. I am so proud of my arms they are toned and muscly. My stomach is never gonna look the same again but in clothes I look good now and I feel like myself again...I am so happy.

I am now pregnant again and have eased up on weights but keeping everything else the same...I figure being lighter fitter and stronger will help my body with pregnancy and labour. Sorry to sound evangelical but its hard not to when you finally achieve your goals and improve your life and realise you could have done it ages ago. I feel like me again. I wish I hadn't had 2 years of feeling like a stranger.

SirChenjin Sat 19-Oct-13 09:11:54

That's great for you Olive smile

futureforward Sat 19-Oct-13 09:13:15

Can one of you early wakers tell me this? What time do you go to bed?

Cos if I had to get up at 5.45am to fit exercise in then I'd have to be asleep for what, 10pm latest? (preferably 9.30!!) And that doesn't really give me enough time in the evening to do all the things I need to do!!

ch1a Sat 19-Oct-13 09:20:00

I should add this isn't to say that other people are making excuses and of course some people are unable physically or financially or practically to do it the way I did. But I wasn't unable in any of those ways and I was just making excuses which didn't stand up. I'm sure some people are in the boat I was in and when they are ready to fit it in and make changes I know they will feel energised.

oliveoctagon Sat 19-Oct-13 09:23:36

futureforward - Our whole family gets up at 6am. Me and the kids then walk a mile and a half at 7.15. Then I start work then at night I walk another mile and half with kids. Get back and get kids down. Do fitness blender workouts on youtube, sit ups etc. At weekends we will do swimming, walking miles etc. I was going zumba on top on the occasion dh was here or I could get my friend to babysit one night but now my mum is injured so having a break from that.

I do the workouts at same time as my friend at her place, and we keep in contact via whatsapp so its like we worked out together, and it keeps us motivated/competitive
When on maternity I would go out most days from 9-5 as if I was at work and take kids wherever I could. I didnt own a buggy so thats every day carrying a large weight once they start putting it on.

oliveoctagon Sat 19-Oct-13 09:24:27

and I go to bed about 10/11/12 dependant on how Im feeling.

StarfishTrooper Sat 19-Oct-13 09:28:46

I'm trying to do this. Have done it in the past when I was more motivated. I have a lot on with work, a DH who works away, two small DC one of whom has multiple disabilities and needs daily therapy, lots of appointments, oh and a house to run with no help.

I often don't go to bed until past midnight as I'm catching up on work. DCs get up at 6.30 so I do have time to Shred but I haven't been. When you find the answer to motivation please spill the beans!

futureforward Sat 19-Oct-13 09:44:09

But going to bed at midnight and up at 6, aren't you just so terribly tired all day long? If I only got 6 hrs' sleep I'd be feeling like shit all day, I'd make crap food choices and be very grumpy. I'm a teacher so really need my energy (and a full night's sleep!)

oliveoctagon Sat 19-Oct-13 09:48:36

No not really. Im in a similar career to you and do a lot more hours with the children I expect than a teacher, but the more I exercise the less sleep I need as your body just gets fitter. Honestly once you get in to it you will see what I mean.

Crowler Sat 19-Oct-13 09:53:36

I get up pretty early (though not to exercise, I'm just an early riser) - my most natural rising time is around 6am and can easily veer towards 5am if I don't force myself back to sleep. But, I am normally asleep by 9.45. I can manage to stay up on weekend nights if I'm out with friends and take a brisk walk around the block.

Running is all but free. If you want to say otherwise, that's just a search for excuses. It's fucking grueling and I don't blame anyone for not wanting to do it, but for the vast majority of people, it is simply a matter of priorities.

I find that if I have zero alcohol, I can get by on at least an hour's less sleep (I go to bed later/wake earlier).

Crowler Sat 19-Oct-13 09:54:37

I just got a jawbone and it's a great motivator, by the way.

pigletmania Sat 19-Oct-13 09:59:20

I do a 40 min work out DVD a day, I have a active 21 month ds and dd 6. has ASD. I don't have a nanny, helper, dh works all day. I fit it around ds nap and when children go to bed. Last year this time, I put a lot of weight on, I was feeling so bad about my body that I wanted to do something about it come The new year. I also had 2,weddings to go to in the summer and wanted to look good in a dress. I have lost 1.5 stone and now 10 stone, clothes fit so much better and I feel really happy. Tat is my motivation

VinegarDrinker Sat 19-Oct-13 10:01:59

The only way I have time to exercise is to cycle to work. It also saves money and is quicker than public transport (6 miles each way). Otherwise it's hopeless, DH & I basically work whenever the other isn't, so if I am working the day, he'll be working the evening/night & vice versa. The baby cluster feeds in the evening too so no chance for a DVD etc even when the toddler is asleep (it's tricky enough finding time just to cook/eat/tidy/wipe kitchen down).

I also walk a lot with the kids (miles a week) but for me that isn't enough on its own to show any noticeable effect in terms of toning/weight loss.

Crowler Sat 19-Oct-13 10:16:52

It is much harder with toddlers. Mine are older and they can be left alone for 30 min at a time. Even so, I'm always up before my husband and kids anyway.

You have to really walk at a ferocious pace to get your heart rate up. Having a heavy stroller helps. When my kids were in the stroller, I was just sweaty and exhausted every time I arrived home from the nursery run with a few groceries tucked underneath.

VinegarDrinker Sat 19-Oct-13 10:20:04

Yes, I can just about get out of breath going up hill with 2 of them on board the (deliberately lightweight) buggy. But mostly I just cycle everywhere, with them both in the trailer, which is much quicker & also generally better exercise.

pigletmania Sat 19-Oct-13 10:22:24

Gosh no vinegar with a sall baby you can't really. Ds is 21 months and dd6 which makes it a lot easier.

oliveoctagon Sat 19-Oct-13 10:23:52

I think its harder if your an sahm as there seems no point in moving fast. I get out of breath as I have to be at work so early so do the mile and a half with the pair of them in 15-20 mins. It helps I live in an extremely hilly area with no car, so you cant get anywhere without getting out of breath and most mums seem to take bus or car here.

pigletmania Sat 19-Oct-13 10:28:44

I don't drive so walk everywhere too

pigletmania Sat 19-Oct-13 10:29:11

I am still not nice and svelte

VinegarDrinker Sat 19-Oct-13 10:42:39

If only no car = automatically thin and healthy, most Londoners would be a lot skinnier than we are! (Me included!).

It does help though, there is no "temptation" to jump in the car if late/bad weather etc.

Crowler Sat 19-Oct-13 10:46:10

I agree. Most Londoners have no car and are not super thin. Outside of Chelsea/Knighsbridge mind you. Everytime I head to the inner sanctum I feel obese.

Unfortunately, it really comes down to what you're eating moreso than how much you're walking around.

Problem is the established assumption that you have to run for an hour three times a week to see any results. Most people are only motivated by results, more specifically results fast, and it's hard to drag yourself out if it makes no sodding difference.

10 minutes a day is plenty if you do it with intensity. The Gillian whatsherface or dvds don't coach training with intensity, and you can't maintain intensity throughout an hour's run either. I coach CrossFit and the transformation we see in ladies in just six months is incredible, they come twice a week, the workout is 12 minutes max. Most of the stuff you can do at home in 10 minutes, but do it against the clock and go fast, all out in that 10 minutes. For example

In 10 minutes do as many rounds as possible of
5 burpees
10 push ups
15 air squats

Or do Tabata intervals with a kettlebell/squats/skipping rope etc, 20 seconds max effort 10 seconds rest, for 8 rounds, total time 4 minutes. You'll be on the floor afterwards totally done, and there is plenty of research backing e.g Tabata intervals as the most effective system for improving metabolic conditioning ('cardio'). You can't find four minutes in a day to exercise? And sure it's not compulsory, but it is the best way to avoid decrepitude, obesity and diabetes as you get older. Your call...

Olive- I'm quite healthy in my lifestyle. I walk or cycle everywhere (sometimes with 4 yr old in trailer dc3has finally got too big) and do the shred sometimes ugh. I don't eat too much and am not overweight
I don't have trainers suitable for running as I tend to wear walking boots or lightweight shoes. I also don't have any track suit bottoms or a sports bra (I lie I bought one then fell pregnant and now it doesn't fit, what a waste of money I can't afford that was) so no running is not free or even cheap. There are significant start up costs.
(I am still unfit though sad)

Gillian Michaels isn't intense? <sob>

Drowninginlaundry - what is an air squat?

Lazysuzanne Sat 19-Oct-13 11:27:10

Running is great for improving cardio vascular efficiency and reducing body fat.

Then again not everyone is suited to running, women are especially prone to knee injury and tend to be biomecanically less efficient than men due to wider hips.

Lazysuzanne Sat 19-Oct-13 11:28:54

* biomechanically

futureforward Sat 19-Oct-13 12:30:45

4 minutes a day will aid weight loss of stones? Sounds too good to be true!

oliveoctagon Sat 19-Oct-13 12:41:55

Thewomantheycalledjayne - It depends how much you do it everything I do has fitness in mind.

LittleBairn Sat 19-Oct-13 13:07:25

What on earth is a burpee I thought that was what the baby did....

Glittertwins Sat 19-Oct-13 13:17:33

I used to use the gym creche when DTs where tiny however that also added £10 to every session. Working and fitting around nursery made formal exercise impossible so I used to walk everywhere instead.
I get up early now and swim/gym before they get up for school but this only works if DH is not abroad as I have nobody to babysit either end of the day

It's jujst about prioritising.

It doesn't have to be in the morning. Most parents with young childrne can find half an hour in the evening to watch tv, so they should just swap that for some exercise.

Many people do manage it.

Good post Drwoning. It really is about intensity.

The less time I have for a run, the faster I make sure I go, so that every minute counts.


Glittertwins Sat 19-Oct-13 13:27:48

what is an air squat? Next time DH is away and I can't use the gym I am making more of an effort as I do have the time, I am just confined to the house

showtunesgirl Sat 19-Oct-13 13:29:55

Can I just ask how much of a foodie the very keen on exercise people are? The reason I ask is that all the very fit people I know all seem to be eat to live rather live to eat types of people.

Lazysuzanne Sat 19-Oct-13 13:46:46

I'm rather fanatical about healthy eating

What do you mean by a foodie though?

To me and DP food is very important, and we enjoy good food and sharing our mealtimes as a family.

I have come to accept that what we consider a normal diet is not what most people eat routinely though.

Bulk of what we eat is vegetables, followed by fruit. All rice is brown, we might occasionally eat chicken, sometimes eat fish, not bothered about red meat. We don't use oil or butter in cooking, never put it on sandwiches either. A bolognese or chillie con carne ill be made with loads of veg, red lentils and some quorn mince, cooked in water rather than fried, until water is boiled off then tomatoes added.

I guess what I'm saying is we don't use fat to cook things, we don't eat much fatty foods, our carb intake is very small and we eat a lot of pulses and wholegrains. We have a cooked breakfast every sunday of poached eggs, bacon cooked in the oven in water (best way to crisp it up without drying it out) and no butter on the toast. We've had it like this so long it tastes great to us!

But we tuck into shop bought muffins or doughnuts every now and then and DP loves chocolate.

We like good food but don't over indulge.

Arisbottle Sat 19-Oct-13 13:50:22

I exercise every day and my day starts at 5am, most of us could do it if we wanted to .

Not meant in a judgemental way, you may not want to , which is your choice

DP, DS and I all take a packed luch of salad to work and school. Sometimes just salad and veg, often with a boiled egg, sometimes with chickpeas or other beans, sometimes with cheese or fish or chicken, occasionally with brown rice or some pasta mixed in. Never add mayonaise or oily dressings. Also take fruit as a snack.

Occasionally wrap a load of salad and some protein in a wrap for DP and DS for lunch.

Arisbottle Sat 19-Oct-13 13:54:24

I am a total foodie

I don't judge people who don't want to be fit, but don't moan about your body and how unhappy you are with it if you are not prepared to make the sort of lifestyle changes that would make a change to your body and fitness.

DoBatsEatCats Sat 19-Oct-13 14:04:45

oliveoctagon, that's rubbish about needing less sleep as you get fitter - different people need different amounts, and you can't suddenly become someone who only needs 5-6 hours a night if you actually need 7-8. I need eight hours a night, and I'm a natural owl who hates getting up early. I'm also very fit, cycling 20 miles a day most days (I commute by bike). I didn't need any more sleep when I was less fit.

GEM33 Sat 19-Oct-13 14:08:41

She does look amazing. I used to have a great athletic toned body. I lived for exercise in any shape or form. I was very poorly in pregnancy thought I was losing baby and stopped exercising apart from swimming once a week but kept on eating like I was in training and put 5 stone on. I miss exercise so much but have hardly done much since having dd now 22 months. I don't recognise my body now it's lardy.

I tried doing DVD each morning but dd gets in the way and moans screams for attention. I stopped. It's impossible. She still isn't sleeping through and I'm permanently exhausted. I work 30 odd hour shift work a week. I have no family support and a partner who works full time and no spare cash for nanny/ nursery and no crèche at my gym/pool.

I have promised myself as soon as dd is 2.5 and can go to morning play group 9-12 every day I will get back to my old exercise habits. I resent slightly not having any time to myself and yes I'm unhealthy now but I do intend in 6 months to turn things around.

Overmydeadbody your eating habits sound brilliant! I will try the bacon in water thing!

showtunesgirl Sat 19-Oct-13 14:13:06

Thing is to me, over that doesn't sound much fun. It's a diet maximised for health but it really doesn't sound very appetising. I understand the need for moderation but to me that is a diet designed to prolong your life but what's the point of having a long life if you're not going to enjoy it?

Of course, you could put it the other way round and say what's the point of eating everything if you're going to have bad health but I am talking about moderation from both ends of the spectrum.

Anyway, for me it's been a very stressful few months where exercise has taken the back burner due to housing issues, working overtime and my worst asthma blip in five years but give me a few weeks and I'll be back on the go. grin

MarshaBrady Sat 19-Oct-13 15:00:59

I do find running highly effective, but I suppose it's not the most time efficient method.

On food, I eat as I enjoy it, but I also happen to enjoy low carb food.

I don't go mad with it because I find it helps control the appetite better than a carb heavy diet.

MarshaBrady Sat 19-Oct-13 15:02:36

Also back to the op. People shouldn't feel bad if they are getting through the day with young dc and not exercising. It can be very tiring and any break is welcomed for chance to relax.

oliveoctagon Sat 19-Oct-13 15:23:45

Dobats - Before I had kids used to sleep 10 hours a night now less drinking and more fit I can just get on with it. Even if I go to bed at 1am Im still up at 6am pre kids I wouldnt get up until midday.

Darkesteyes Sat 19-Oct-13 16:57:22

oliveoctagonSat 19-Oct-13 08:34:22

Darkeyes - Its cheap. Most healthy people already have trainers and suitable trousers as they can be bought very cheap. Anyone can keep fit if they want to, its just some people choose not to which is fair enough.

£80 for a sports bra is NOT cheap. I am currently power walking without one EVERY day for 2 months now.
I wasnt healthy to start with but excsersising has improved that and ive lost 10 and a half pounds to show for it Doing Slimming World has increased my grocery bill.
Fuel is going up. BT line rental is going up by 3.5 % the usage of food banks is on the increase.

In my case i cant afford to pay for healthy food AND a sports bra so i do what i can afford and live within those means as so many right wing MNers are so fond of telling us.

Lazysuzanne Sat 19-Oct-13 17:06:29

Darkest, walking is still good exercise, especially if you can make it fairly brisk and include a bit of uphill walking smile

CoffeeTea103 Sat 19-Oct-13 17:12:47

There are so many ways to incorporate good exercises in our lives. There are many home exercises for women. If you really want to do it, it's possible.

Alibabaandthe40nappies Sat 19-Oct-13 17:13:01

Well I did go through a phase of getting up early to exercise, but DS2 has developed a tendency to wake up a 5.30, and DH leaves the house for work at 6am so mornings are out.

DS2 doesn't nap during the day, and won't let me exercise if he is awake because he just climbs on me.

He starts preschool in a fortnight and I will have two precious mornings a week when I will try and shoehorn in exercise, haircuts, clearing out cupboards and anything else that requires being childfree.

TartyMcTart Sat 19-Oct-13 17:16:28

overmydeadbody exactly!

I get that some people don't have a partner to watch the kids so fitting in exercise can be difficult. However most people can find time to slouch around in the evening, I'd love to do this but force myself to shred / gym for an hour instead.

Don't moan about it if you can't be bothered to sacrifice things!

ch1a Sat 19-Oct-13 17:18:20

I got a good sports bra from sainsburys for £8. I wear leggings from Primark, any old vest or t shirt and trainers from sports direct. I also have a swimsuit for £7 from sports direct.

In terms of food - I love food! That is why I was in this position to start with. I just amended my diet to have no butter, used a 100% olive oil spray so used hardly any oil. Didn't really eat much bread, pasta or potato and very small amounts of rice.

A typical day would be a vegetable broth made from chopped celery, carrots , onion and courgette, fried in 2 sprays of oil with herbs and seasoning. Then simmered in vegetable stock for 15 mins. I would then put a piece of salmon or white fish or chicken in this and poach it. For dinner a salad of chopped tomatoes, put lentils, cucumber, spinach, peppers, a few cubes of salad cheese, a few sun dried tomatoes, beetroot, pickled onions, capers, a few slices of griddled pollenta cake and a protein source: either a griddled thin-cut sirloin steak or chicken breast of piece of tuna, tin of crab. For breakfast half a grapefruit and a small bowl of porridge. I love all of these ingredients so to me this was just as delicious as pizza.

ch1a Sat 19-Oct-13 17:25:17

And butternut squash soup is like drinking cream and honey and is so good for weight loss!

And miso soup with tofu and spring onions and just plain old tomato soup is wonderfully filling yet low fat and tasty too. It just takes a little getting used to not having bread with it - but you can easily have a simple salad of rocket and tomatoes on the side instead!

I love food so much I'm making myself hungry just typing this. Now to make some dinner!

Lazysuzanne Sat 19-Oct-13 17:27:23

I like food, but I'm not so enthusiastic about it that I'd say I love it and I only really think about it when I'm hungry.

I'd imagine most people could make some food substitutions without feeling too deprived if they wanted to improve their diets?

goodasitgets Sat 19-Oct-13 17:31:28

I love food but I also love exercise
Low carb/primal works for me

ch1a Sat 19-Oct-13 17:38:39

Exactly lazysuzanne.

The spray olive oil was such a simple game changer for me. One spray was around 5calories and a few sprays was enough with a good pan to cook anything I needed. To have cut it out altogether would have psychologically made me feel like I wasn't able to make any of the types of meals I made before I started being more conscious. But it cut so many calories out of every meal just to make this change.

Using lots of capers and drained sun dried tomatoes and beetroot in salads removed the need for salad dressing.

Pollenta substituted for chips/ mash very easily.

And I found that when I changed both eating habits and started exercise they complemented each other so made me more committed to each aspect of getting fit and healthy.

I don't mind what anyone else eats but this has made such a positive impact to my life I can only say if you want to do it just start eating a little better and doing some exercise. It doesn't have to be going from inactivity and bad diet to 5 days a week complex gym regime and vegan diet...its a gradual thing. Find what time you have and start something and it will spiral from there. I can dead lift most women's body weight after a few months and do push ups and chin ups and I feel invincible!

Theincidental Sat 19-Oct-13 17:42:53

"Prefer to slouch"!

Ooh that pisses me off!

My working day runs from 6am to 8.30pm with me doing absolutely everything involved in working full time, looking after a toddler (nursery runs etc as well) and running a household by myself. When I finally sit down at 8.30pm, it's to eat my dinner. Can't exercise immediately after food and 9pm is far too late to eat dinner regularly. I then do another hour of ad hoc chores (sewing, tidying etc) and fall into bed at 10pm.

I get up 2/3 times during the night to settle my son, who is not the best sleeper.

At weekends, I do plenty of running around exercise in the park or out and about, but I would love to go to the gym or swim one or two nights in the week. It's just not possible financially or in terms of childcare needs.

So, I'm not fucking slouching or a lazy arse that can't be bothered. I'm a 100% single parent who has had less than ten evenings out in 3 years.

What exactly should I sacrifice?

Lazysuzanne Sat 19-Oct-13 17:51:30

Theincidental, I find it tricky to fit in exercising around meals, I like to leave several hours in between eating and any exertion or I just feel sick and horrid sad

Darkesteyes Sat 19-Oct-13 17:53:21

YY Lazy I live on a big circular housing estate on a hill. I go round the estate as fast as i can TWICE which takes an hour each day. The fact that im losing weight and my mood is a lot brighter makes me feel better.

I NEVER lose off my boobs though 11 years ago i lost ten stone but ONE cup size. my big boobs are more to do with genetics My paternal grandmother"s were the same.

Lazysuzanne Sat 19-Oct-13 17:59:28

Darkest, your walking sounds like just the job! Keep up the good workgrin

Alibabaandthe40nappies Sat 19-Oct-13 18:02:03

polenta can easily be substituted for chips

Not in this house it can't, polenta is grim as hell.

Lazysuzanne Sat 19-Oct-13 18:07:23

I often use a treadmill whilst wearing a heart rate monitor.
I find that walking up a steep-ish incline puts my heart rate up as much as jogging does, so I think we can say that, in many respects, uphill walking is as good as jogging wink (?)

Darkesteyes Sat 19-Oct-13 18:23:07

smile thanks

Maria Kang can fuck right off. My excuses are as follows:

* Fibromyalgia, on my off days I can't walk without excruciating pain

* The drowsiness from my medication, getting up early means waking up at 4:30am to get out the door for 6am.

* Of the low impact exercises I can do, swimming and yoga mostly, one is expensive and both are miles away from where I live and I don't have a car.

* I have a 2 hour commute and a 12 hour workday which leaves me exhausted in the evening

I think I'm in pretty good shape considering, but I'll never look like Maria Kang and frankly I don't want to dedicate so much time to something so self defeating. Once you've achieved the body you want, you're engaged in a struggle to keep it like that until you hit a wall like an unexpected pregnancy, a mental health issue, a financial crisis or sudden illness and then you're back to square one. Life is too fucking short and no-one should feel bad for having other priorities.

TartyMcTart Sat 19-Oct-13 19:38:07

Hang on! I did say that it isnt easy to fit in everything if you don't have a partner to help out in the mornings / evenings. Also, 'prefer to slouch' maybe wasnt the best choice of words.

I was thinking of a few friends I have who regularly moan about how unfit they are and how they'd like to be a few pounds lighter. They then eat a massive meal every night and sit watching telly for an hour or two. When OH is on nights, I sometimes don't start exercising til 9pm when I really can't be arsed but I do it so I can feel fit(ter!) and eat more at the weekend.

Lavenderhoney Sat 19-Oct-13 19:48:08

Miles of walking with pram when they were little. Pilates whilst watching telly. Exercise DVDs at night. My dh works evenings so doesn't hog the telly. I do stretches whilst cooking. I drink lots of water, 3 litres a day. I don't snack or drink fizzy drinks.

At weekends, I go running. If dh has an evening off, I go to the gym, pay as you go. Or run, depending on the weather/ light.

I follow lc boot camp and feel better for it.

Theincidental Sat 19-Oct-13 20:19:25


But you directed your comments to everyone and judged people you don't know, and worse your friends.

I'm sure they'd be extremely hurt to know you thought them fat and lazy.

If I was your friend I certainly would be.

The phrase "never judge someone until you've walked a mile in their shoes" springs to mind.

MrsMook Sat 19-Oct-13 21:37:45

I find walking much harder with DS2 than I did first time round. I'm accompanied by DS1 (2y) who either walks tediously at toddler pace, or needs some kind of buggy or carrier combination to transport the pair of them which is tiring , especially as my PGP hasn't fucked off to the far side of fuck after six months, and wears my joints out quickly.

I fit in an aquafit class once a week, and go to Buggyfit. Buggyfit is a much bigger challenge as again I'm transporting two. I try to fit in DVDs if DS1 is co-operative with naps, and have a good collection of workouts in 15-20 min installments so I can extend if necessary, but stand a good chance of getting through one.

Fitness is a priority to me, and before pregnancy with DS2 I'd managed to get myself very fit, but the logistics of two young children and the PGP being slow to go away is making it much tougher this time round.

HardFacedCareeristBitchNigel Sat 19-Oct-13 22:00:00

Errr since when can you get running shoes, sports bras and the correct trousers for free

Marketing hypey rubbish. You don't need some special pair of trousers for running, I manage it in a pair of £3 Tesco jogging bottoms I bought in the sale. Or a pair of jogging bottoms that are so old and well used that they have well covered the £16 I paid for them about 10 years ago.

I doubt Roger Black ran in a fancy pair of custom designed Nike trainers and a decent sports bra can be picked up with change from a twenty Since you have to wear a bra anyway, why not just make one of them a sports bra ?

To be honest, it's all just good excuses not to do it. I know that because I have been there, done that and used every excuse in the book not to exercise. The actual truth was I just can't be fucked

HardFacedCareeristBitchNigel Sat 19-Oct-13 22:02:35

I get up around 6am (not for exercise as I do this in the evening, but to do the things I used to do in what is now gym time). I don't usually go to bed before 11.30/midnight.

Indith Sat 19-Oct-13 22:13:35

I'm hoping to get back into exercise again. been on placement from uni so getting up at 5.30 as it is for a 13 hour shift. then the days I'm not getting up dh is as he works away a lot so I can't get out for a run sad . back in uni and more sensible hours for a couple of months soon though!

ILetHimKeep20Quid Sat 19-Oct-13 22:27:24

Can anyone recommend any good short workouts on YouTube (around 20 minutes) for doing in the morning?

I'm fat.

It's time to stop being fat.

Darkesteyes Sat 19-Oct-13 22:33:54

Hard what im doing already is working. It shows on the scales and in my clothes. Im a 38K bra possibly a 36 back size now but i never lose off my cup size Sports bras in bigger sizes are fucking hard to find. Even in stores like Yours and Evans ive seen 50C bras The big back size but small cup size And they are NOT sports bras.Well im vice versa.
In my case its not "i cant be fucked" because that 10 and a half pounds didnt come off by me casting an early Halloween spell!

Its NOT a fucking excuse. Im trying to work around it and do what i can.

Darkesteyes Sat 19-Oct-13 22:49:29

decent sports bra can be picked up with change from a twenty

not one that will support a K cup bust

Crowler Sat 19-Oct-13 23:10:58

I'm no expert, but I would I would just run around the block for 20 min (repetitively) rather than finding a workout. If you are on your own, you can do this with a baby monitor in hand. Then come home and do some pushups and situps or maybe some squats.

You have to get your heart rate up, and keep it in zone for 20 or 30 minutes. Google this. There's some evidence that "shocking" or confusing your body by mixing it up is good but I wouldn't worry about that now, just get out and run.

Lavenderhoney Sun 20-Oct-13 03:01:40

Lots of people on here use the " shred" as a great workout, 20 mins a day, downloadable onto iPad or buy in shops/ amazon/ eBay. The exercise board is very good, and you could post about sports bras for your size.

Darkest eyes, debenhams and m&s do sports bras. Go in and get a selection of the ones with the biggest cup size, plus a 38 G- try all the styles. Also take in a tight sports top.

Try all the bras on, put the top on. Its supposed to be tight and may seem a bit uncomfortable. Jump up and down ( quietly, or you will get " are you alright in there madam?" Pick the one where your breasts don't appear to move or bounce as little as possible.. I have a large bust and I wear a sports bra and a right top for more support. Any old shorts or trackie bottoms for the other half.

Then either buy it, or write down the name of the brand and size, come home and look on eBay.

garlicvampire Sun 20-Oct-13 03:23:55

I've only read page 1. An annoyingly amazingly perfect friend of mine used to get 1 hour in the daytime, while her twins had their nap. She would put her soap on the telly, get out her step and do 35 mins of stepping while watching the soap. Then she had a shower and ate lunch. What with all the running around, lifting and walking you do with babies as well, she was back in shape very quickly.

There is no way I'd be disciplined enough to do this. But I can't deny it worked.

comewinewithmoi Sun 20-Oct-13 07:59:26

She's got everyone talking and thinking about exercise. Very sad attack on women though.

PervCat Sun 20-Oct-13 08:00:34

Who even is Maria kang?

comewinewithmoi Sun 20-Oct-13 08:05:56

My dh leaves before 7 and gets back at 7. There is no way I would get up before him to exercise. Our evenings are full on with 4 kids, they are not tinies like mk's, so not in bed at 7pm! My eldest is in bed at 9 and there is no way I'm going to exercise then, I suffer from depression and need my evenings for my sanity.

I only have baby son at home during the day in term time so I do need to get out walking more. I am planning to run with him but right now my mountain buggy needs the wheels sorted and a new hood which I can't afford.

shartsi Sun 20-Oct-13 08:20:08

i use my skipping rope for one hour every other night after kids go to bed. I watch the telly while doing this.

SuiGeneris Sun 20-Oct-13 08:31:04

All those who say they just get up earlier: do your kids sleep? Do you work?

Because my 18 months old wakes up every 2 hours (or more often when teething etc) and I work out of the house for about 11.5 hours a day. I do walk and use stairs whenever possible (about 45 minutes a day) but I wake up at 5.30 as it is, I cannot really imagine getting up earlier and keeping my job (which is fairly intellectual, so I need to be on the ball for it)...

ProfondoRosso Sun 20-Oct-13 08:35:20

It can be pretty difficult for non-mothers too, if you work long hours and have a particularly demanding/unpredictable job! smile

cleofatra Sun 20-Oct-13 08:37:17

I totally get it when people say they can't find the time. Until my youngest went to school, it was impossible for me. Even now he is at school, my mornings wouldnt be the ideal. For one, I live in a small 3 bedroom semi and the sound of the tv and me jumping would wake the kids, and the neighbours. And I must confess, the little one sleeps in with me. I wake early but its to do uniforms, breakfasts, lunches etc anyway.
My time is school time now smile

cleofatra Sun 20-Oct-13 08:41:42

And I should add. I swim for about an hour each week day and I sont look like her.

Astr0naut Sun 20-Oct-13 08:44:06

You can't do it every day if you work. I'm up at 6 every day to get ready for work. I have an hour between tea and putting kids to bed, which is usually filled with little jobs.

I then start work again at 730. I manage 2 or 3 gym sessions a week. I'll never have a tiny waist or a. six pack again, but I've accepted that my life is just too full for the next 18 years. Maybe less if it's different when they're teens.

Maria Kang annoyed me more with her statement that men are the head of the family unless you're a single mum. I think she should just stand there and look good without speaking

GrandstandingBlueTit Sun 20-Oct-13 09:08:10

It's ridiculous that people feel as if they have to justify themselves.

And I say this as a slim person.

Where is the pressure on fathers - you know, the ones who don't have to go through 9 months of pregnancy, as well as potentially breastfeeding their offspring - to be buff and toned with three young children?

There is no pressure on fathers to be back in shape and looking fit and attractive by X months after their child was born.

Let's take a leaf out of their book and reject insidious people who make others feel like shit about themselves, and instead just do what the fuck we want.

If you want to lose weight, then do it. But don't do it because some random believes you should have the same priorities and support network that she has.

cleofatra Sun 20-Oct-13 09:09:21

Goddam I wish there was a LIKE button

StarfishTrooper Sun 20-Oct-13 10:29:10


That picture of MK looking so glowing, fit and happy with her three gorgeous kids and a 'What's Your Excuse?' strapline is just so fucking horrendous I don't know where to start.

So many of us are trying so hard just to get by in life, do right by our kids, have a career, support aging relatives/disabled children etc etc etc. We are all managing different life circumstances with different levels of pressure and different personalities.

You know, I look at that ad, and because I'm a sensitive type who judges myself very harshly, I feel a sinking feeling of failure, despite the fact I'm raising two small children one of whom has severe disabilities and a propensity to stop breathing, working through the nights to keep my PR consultancy business going, and running a household while DH works away. I look at my Shred DVD, my running shoes and my boxing gloves and wish I could spend more time looking after myself. I would LOVE to be out there running or heading out to yoga or crossfit. But there are other priorities right now. I'm lucky if I work out twice a week. I definitely don't look like Maria Kang.

And you have the audacity to ask me what my excuse is Maria Kang? Well, for that, you are a wanker of the highest order.

Lazysuzanne Sun 20-Oct-13 10:55:48

IMO MK comes across as smug, self righteous and up her self.
Are we supposed to congratulate her for her vanity?

As for the 'man should be the head of the household' gobshiite!
Arrgghh give me strength angry

ben5 Sun 20-Oct-13 11:17:38

I would love to exercise more but I would have to be so much more organised. Dh is away ( he's navy) there's no family support and I work school hours( which is great but I have no break in these hours so i can do pick up and drop offs!!). I have 30 minutes swimming every week as the boys are in the same time. I tried taekowndo but its evenings and falls on the evenings I often have meetings( I can take the kids with me). Before kids I was a gym junky. Only another 5 years and I should get some kind of life back!!!

Lazysuzanne Sun 20-Oct-13 11:19:24

surely what MK really means is
'dont you all wish you were as hot as me'

only she cant actually say that because she'd be immediately shot down, so she presents herself as praiseworthy and heroic

Lazysuzanne Sun 20-Oct-13 11:22:39

but it seems as if alot of us buy into her message, lots of us have posted explaining why they dont dedicate their lives to the pursuit of the body beautiful.
No one needs to justify or explain having different priorities from MK

Her poster doesn't actually state what she's talking about

What's my excuse for not having three boys? Well I managed it but I have a girl too

What's my excuse for having stretch marks? I did try honest, numerous lotions and creams but I still have them all over

What's my excuse for not having narrow hips? The doctor wouldn't shave bone off my hipbones. Most inconsiderate of them

What's my excuse for not having a poster with me on it? My children refused to play ball. Like me they don't like having their photo taken so that I can use the image to belittle others

What's my excuse for not having long brown hair? I keep it shorter because I can only afford one bottle of dye at a time.

What's my excuse for not having shiny white straight teeth? I live in Britain. I can't afford to get the hole fixed in my tooth let alone a brace or whitening treatment

Ok I'm bored now

bababababoom Sun 20-Oct-13 11:41:47

YANBU. I don't have time to brush my hair in the morning let alone work out. I have 3 DC.

What I copuld do is exercise in the evenings. I don't. I'm knackered. Yes, if I was more motivated, I could.

Our swimming pool has a creche and I'd love to go swimming but they won't take school age kids (dc 1 and 2 are Home Educated). I can't go in the evening as I can't drive.

But yes, I'd go for a run or do a dvd in the evening if I really could be bothered wouldn't i!!

showtunesgirl Sun 20-Oct-13 12:25:04

Totally different debate but Crowler are you saying you should leave your kids at home by themselves to go for a run? hmm

Heartbrokenmum73 Sun 20-Oct-13 12:29:30

I'm a little bit in love with BlueTit and Jayne after their epic posts! blush

FloozeyLoozey Sun 20-Oct-13 13:55:27

I do have the time technically but I don't have the mental capacity. I'm a single parent who works over 40 hours a week in a stressful responsible job. It takes all my coping resources just to parent ds and have a clean house. I can't actually cope with any more! Ds' s dad has no involvement.

Darkesteyes Sun 20-Oct-13 17:22:13

Thanks Lavendar thanks Ive just come back from my power walk....soaking wet through Had a bit of extra weight to carry You wouldnt believe how much water weighs on trackie bottoms Torrential rain here today Absolutely sopping wet through.
So Maria Kang if i was slacking i would have used todays weather as an excuse wouldnt i! Id never heard of Maria Kang before i saw this thread. Pity i dont know her personally because if i catch a cold after today i could make sure i sneezed in her vicinity or gave her a hug for being so "inspirational" She might catch my cold but hey... she wouldnt be able to accuse me of slacking.
She sounds like a bit of a mysogynist to me. Agree with the poster who said its a shame she has to attack women to get her point across Wonder if her BFF is Louise Mensch I reckon theyd get on well.

SprinkleLiberally Sun 20-Oct-13 19:07:35

I'll be honest. If you don't work its a whole different ball game. And just not the same. Likewise if your children are old enough to be left alone. If you work and have a partner who works, and young children it is horrendously hard.

Mintyy Sun 20-Oct-13 19:12:56

When she says "what is your excuse" my answer is "I just don't want it that much".

theoriginalandbestrookie Sun 20-Oct-13 19:30:10

I exercise 3-4 times a week. It's important for me to feel well and exercise gives me energy and stops me from getting bigger.

However I do not and will not, no matter what I ever do, look as good as Maria Kang. Something to do with genetics, big hips and enjoying my food.

The advert makes me want to give up actually. What's the point - I don't look as if I exercise, I'm not thin, I don't have white shiny teeth, I didn't even manage to have three kids.

Surely a more inspiring message would be to show normal sized females who feel better from exercising.

Lazysuzanne Sun 20-Oct-13 19:36:58

there is a point, theoriginal, exercise has many health benefits but I dont believe you need to exercise to any kind of extreme extent to get the benefits.

Nothing wrong with being a fitness fanatic if thats your thing but I dont think it is necessary for health reasons.

comewinewithmoi Sun 20-Oct-13 19:43:48

I wondered that too op. hmm in regards to running with baby monitor. Big no.

what my excuse?


When I get a spare hour (?) I prefer to lie on the couch eating cake. It's not an excuse it's a preference.

Although, I have done the shred twice this year, and will be doing in again. I am in no way interested in having a six pack, but I would like to feel slightly better about my wobbly stomach. But also, like a PP, I just don't want it that much.

Darkesteyes Sun 20-Oct-13 21:31:24

Sprinkle i dont work currently I am a full time carer for my DH I dont have DC.

A lot of working mums have stressful jobs with a lot of responsibility

Lazy hits nail on head I definately feel the benefits of excersising just from an hours power walk every day.

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