To not let DD taste sugary things until I have to?

(86 Posts)
HopLittleFroggiesHopSkipJump Sun 13-Oct-13 16:16:33

DD is 13 months, and eats the same as me except anything unhealthy yummy is substituted with things like baby treats or fruit etc to distract her.

I just had a chocolate biscuit, and she's sat there munching away on sweetcorn hoops clueless to what she's missing out on, am I being a bit mean not even letting her taste things or does everyone else keep them oblivious to 'treats' as long as possible too?

JaneFonda Sun 13-Oct-13 16:17:32

YANBU.

A 13 month old doesn't need a chocolate biscuit. We, however, do. grin

The longer you can keep her away from things, the longer you get to enjoy them all to yourself without having to share!

mrsjay Sun 13-Oct-13 16:20:26

I used to call boxed rasins sweeties I got away with it for about 2 years then they clicked grin you don't have to give your baby anything until you feel she is ready for a yummy unhealthy snack I never banned sweet things just a bit of moderation iyswim, MIL used to think we were depriving dd1 and would sneak her a mix up from the shop sigh

BenNJerry Sun 13-Oct-13 16:21:21

DS is only 4 months so still on milk, but I'm going to do the same. I don't really want him having anything like chocolate etc until after he is one, and even then only as an occasional treat.

I'll probably get people calling me "mean" etc, but I think if they've never tried it then they're not really missing out! I'm a young mum and know a lot of others my age who are a lot less strict than this - saw a picture of a girl I know's 5 month old eating a biscuit. Not for me really. hmm

JenaiMorris Sun 13-Oct-13 16:23:52

Given my memory of ds's face the first time he tried caramel fudge icecream, at a similar age, YABU. I've not seen a baby express such utter overwhelming pleasure before or since.

otoh that might be a good reason to avoid for now grin

BearsInMotion Sun 13-Oct-13 16:27:14

Glad it's not just me grin. I was annoyed when MIL gave DD jelly tots and she's 21 months - she just doesn't need it! Luckily she still prefer raspberries to any food under the Sun, hoping it stays that way -- unlike me and my sweet tooth--

uselessinformation Sun 13-Oct-13 16:46:36

Raisins are as bad as sweets for baby teeth. Did you check the sugar content of the baby treats?

Chunderella Sun 13-Oct-13 16:47:59

Yanbu. My DD is a bit older than yours and on the advice of my dentist, I'm trying to do the same! However she has nicked a few bits and has enjoyed them, so I don't know how long we'll manage to keep it going.

heidihole Sun 13-Oct-13 16:49:23

YADNBU

DS is 16m and doesn't have chocolate or biscuits. He has no idea what he's missing so is 100% happy with fruit and rice cakes and yoghurt to snack on.

There is enough time for sugary crap later. Can't understand people who happily feed babies crap all the time.

JenaiMorris Sun 13-Oct-13 16:51:42

Raspberries are sweet confused

Nowt wrong with them - they're lovely and nutritious - but they're definitely sweet. As is breast milk.

I'm not sure you can control children's palates in the way people think, just by withholding the sweet stuff.

mrsjay Sun 13-Oct-13 16:52:06

MY eldest child is 20 her teeth are lovelyand a few rasins here and there did her no harm , I just want to say sugar isn't poison

Spirulina Sun 13-Oct-13 16:53:19

Fruit is full of sugar, milk contains sugar, it's everywhere so she's probably well aware of it already

BlackbeltinBS Sun 13-Oct-13 16:54:10

I remember taking toddler DD to see a friend with slightly older children. Friends' children had little pots of smarties and raisins. DD was given one too, she sifted through the smarties and fell on the raisins. Didn't even put a smartie in her mouth, I think she'd filed them under "multi-coloured gravel".

How things change.

littleblackno Sun 13-Oct-13 16:54:23

my ex mil told me that i was depriving my kids and they would probably grow up to be drug addicts if i didn't give them chocolate!! hmm
They are now 6 and 7 yrs old and have been munching on haribo this afternoon but I did avoid giving them sweets and chocolate for as long as I could and now its a treat not something regular.
I agree that if they don't know what it is then keep it that way for as long as possible and get them used to having other 'treats'.

I also think that you can go too far the other way - deny them too much for too long and they will develop more of a sweet tooth than had they had moderate amounts of sweetness / sugar.

JenaiMorris Sun 13-Oct-13 16:54:24

Rice cakes are evil. Their sole purpose is to make parents look virtuous, when in fact all they're doing is teaching their child that food can be rubbish.

NoComet Sun 13-Oct-13 16:55:04

Breast milk is definitely sweeter than formula or cows milk and gave DD2 a sweet tooth long before she ate anything at all.

TheFallenMadonna Sun 13-Oct-13 16:55:24

Breastmilk is very sweet I think. Better that than chocolate of course, but still, it's sweet.

JenaiMorris Sun 13-Oct-13 17:01:22

Breast milk is magical Carnation condensed milk, only less thick. Also I don't think you can make banoffee pie using breast milk.

AuntyEntropy Sun 13-Oct-13 17:02:09

G**a F**d says that you should wean babies on vegetables not fruit to prevent them getting a sweet tooth. I thought "you've not tasted breast milk lately have you?"

(For anyone wondering, one reason an adult would taste breast milk is because you dab a bit of warmed up expressed milk on the back of your hand to try the temperature, and then find that licking is the easiest way to clean it up).

mellicauli Sun 13-Oct-13 17:02:48

When my son was young, they said if you don't give him sugar, he will not develop a sweet tooth. Well I didn't for 2 years. And now he is 9 I can report that is complete rubbish. He has just demolished the biggests slice of carrot cake and would eat the whole cake if I would only let him.

With my younger son, I take the approach that I can't expect him to be any better than I am. Which isn't very good, I am afraid!

JenaiMorris Sun 13-Oct-13 17:02:52

magical hmm

That was meant to say 'basically'. Although of course it's jolly good stuff so that wasn't such a terrible typo grin

Me2Me2 Sun 13-Oct-13 17:02:54

yanbu
ds is 21 months an I don't give him any chocolate or sugary treats at home. He doesn't even have snacks, though I think we're in the minority in this. He's a great eater. Has three full meals a day and milk before bed.
I can't fight it when we're out the house though and don't stop him having a biscuit if another child he's with is eating one. However, it often feels like, as soon as we're in company, he is bombarded with treats. I find it a bit annoying tbh, other people feeding your child. He's never going to say 'no' and all of a sudden he's had 5 mini rolls.

Alisvolatpropiis Sun 13-Oct-13 17:03:44

Fruit has sugar in it hmm

JenaiMorris Sun 13-Oct-13 17:04:07

Aunty, I tried mine out of pure curiosity!

Uts totally up to you.

Though you must give her a bit of lemon to suck on for your amusement grin

candycoatedwaterdrops Sun 13-Oct-13 17:17:30

YANBU for not wanting such a young child to have biscuits and sweets etc but fruit is sugary, so she may still have a sweet tooth.

FredFredGeorge Sun 13-Oct-13 17:28:30

What other way of checking you've not over-heated the breast milk is there other than tasting it?

If you really believe "treats" are nicer than normal food, then I think withholding it is more likely to be a problem, because all of a sudden when the "treats" are got hold of. That regular food would seem really horrible and to be avoided? So I'm not even sure of the sense of the idea.

Not that I actually believe any of it...

Retroformica Sun 13-Oct-13 17:36:36

What are sweetcorn hoops? Never heard of them. We tend to steer away from processed foods, white flour items and sugar if poss. I agree it's best to steer clear for as long as you can. I know too many families who just eat crap.

Retroformica Sun 13-Oct-13 17:37:44

Ps, we tend to have weekly treats these days or more often if we visit friends

HopLittleFroggiesHopSkipJump Sun 13-Oct-13 17:48:30

Sweetcorn hoops are like the carrot puffs ('organix')

I'm not so much trying to avoid a sweet tooth, she still breastfeed mostly and loves fruit so that's out of the window, just trying to keep her healthy as possible while I still have any say in it! grin

Glad she's not the only one deprived of chocolate, biscuits, crisps etc, I think most of my friends with similar aged babies must just be relaxed rather than me being mean then smile (though not sure DD will agree when she finally gets hold of some!)

HopLittleFroggiesHopSkipJump Sun 13-Oct-13 17:50:12

(By breastfeeds mostly I mean most of her diet is milk)

JenaiMorris Sun 13-Oct-13 17:53:10

If children are only eating rubbish like rice cakes at the exclusion of the good stuff, then that's generally a Bad Thing.

But a bit of cake, chocolate or caramel fudge ice cream, and a good mix of protein, fruit and vegetables, wholegrains, good fats, calcium sources etc are not mutually exclusive.

Lilacroses Sun 13-Oct-13 17:58:22

Not BU at all. I know just what you mean. I definitely agree it's better for us ALL to eat less processed food and as someone who has only recently managed to tame their extremely sweet tooth (and has had the most horrible teeth problems as a result) I would go easy on the sweets, but also include in that dried fruit and fruit juice.

Personally I don't think it is helpful when people police their children's eating when they are older (school age) to the extent that they are not allowed to have treats even at parties. Not what you've been talking about I know. I know one poor child whose parent would not let her have a piece of birthday cake at a friends party when she was 6. No food allergies or health problems.....just sugar is evil. It was horrible for the child, she felt really singled out and unsurprisingly was slightly obsessed with sweets and cakes as a result!

There is nothing 'healthy' about labelling some foods as 'bad'. The OP is feeding her child processed food just not stuff that's overtly 'treat' food. She certainly isn't excluding sugar and nor should we aim to. We need sugars just like we need fats.

MoominsYonisAreScary Sun 13-Oct-13 17:58:51

I gave ds4 8 months old a lick of my ice cream last week

Lilacroses Sun 13-Oct-13 17:59:07

x posted with you JenaiMorris, what a great post!

specialsubject Sun 13-Oct-13 18:00:20

just read something to the effect that a box of raisins is like a pound of grapes, same amount of sugar. Keep a sense of proportion but do remember that dried fruit is incredibly sugary.

as is sweetcorn. Although no idea what sweetcorn hoops are.

Lilacroses Sun 13-Oct-13 18:02:06

I'm not advocating calling some foods "bad" I'm just suggesting that it is healthier to eat less processed foods. It's all about balance isn't it? I'm well aware that healthy eating isn't only about vegetables! I don't think we "need" processed sugary food do we? We might like it but we don't actually need it!

MoominsYonisAreScary Sun 13-Oct-13 18:04:29

He also had a jar of organix baby food, first time hes had a jar but we were out for the day with friends.

Friend said oh I never gave my ds3 jars (no just sweetcorn hoops, carrot puffs and quavers from 8 monthss)

All said while giving her dd 4months some chocolate to suck grin

JenaiMorris Sun 13-Oct-13 18:08:29

Actually I think babies aren't meant to have wholegrain stuff (but it's been nearly THIRTEEN years since I had a baby to feed so I'm probably a bit rusty <wails> )

I will totally appear on MN as the MIL from hell when I 'innocently' give my grandchildren pudding. grin

stopgap Sun 13-Oct-13 18:18:17

I don't give my son chocolate, biscuits etc. and he's 2.2. Well, he's tried ice cream and chocolate and didn't like either, but he's a fiend for pizza, chips, calamari etc. which is what we have for treats of a weekend. I've always preferred a plate of salty snacks over sweet ones. I wonder if it's genetic?

dietcokeandwine Sun 13-Oct-13 18:18:40

YANBU at all with a child this age. Did the same with my older two boys and will do same again with my third. Baby DS is 8m and will not be offered anything like cake, biscuits etc until as far past age 1 as I can manage!

The only thing I would advise caution on is taking this to extremes once your baby is nearer to 2 and certainly beyond that-many people I know have been strict till age two and then relaxed a bit. They will go to parties, be offered sweets on children's birthdays at preschool, etc etc. Try not to be so extremist that you refuse to allow preschool aged children anything sweet or chocolate related...It IS perfectly possible to allow treats from time to time and still ensure your DC eat a healthy balanced diet. My older two consumed big slices of chocolate cake this afternoon, but they also devoured broccoli and carrots with lunch, a small bowl of fresh fruit each, salad with tea etc etc. Everything in moderation! I do know of a few mums who have been very extremist (nothing 'treat like' whatsoever for a 3 year old-not ever allowed even a plain biscuit, not even the organix stuff, and whilst he will have a birthday cake on his birthday it is for guests only-he won't be allowed any!). That kind of extremism is probably going to be counter productive IMO.

But for a 13mo-not unreasonable at all.

Glimmerberry Sun 13-Oct-13 18:22:39

If you do manage to avoid sweet stuff for the first couple of years, make sure you've got a camcorder ready to film that first bit of cake. My 2 year old had his first ever tunnocks teacake last week and his face was a fantastic combination of concentration, delight, awe and immense gratitude. Not a word was spoken until the last morsel was finished, then all he said was, "Nice".

Dollybird86 Sun 13-Oct-13 18:27:08

This is my plan it has so far worked for my Dsil and her kids 4 & 18months are more than happy with fruit and yoghurt as a treat (shes goes as far as only giving plain yoghurt) they are both very happy healthy children.

SleepyFish Sun 13-Oct-13 18:30:58

YANBU. I don't get people who give babies and toddlers sweets and chocolate. It's not like they know they're missing out.
I managed 3 years of ds thinking rice cakes were treats until a friend gave him a packet of haribos. It's all downhill from there.
The first couple of years are the only time you have total control of their diet, might as well make the most of it.

Mrsostrich Sun 13-Oct-13 18:34:37

Dd is 13 months. She always has a few white choc buttons at my mums. I don't sweat it. She eats loads of food. She will happily eat anything given to her except broccoli but I think that's the texture.

I intend to bring her up that everything in moderation is fine so long as she is active and brushes her teeth I don't see the issue.

My nephew was deprived of treats and now he is a nightmare and has one of the worst diets I've ever seen in a kid. If he is given chocolate (at least daily sometimes several times a day) he eats it so quickly and binges on it if he is left with it. My other nephew has always been allowed sweets and he tends to go for fruit or pop corn over chocolate

I don't know ask me again in ten years. I'm new to all of this

diplodocus Sun 13-Oct-13 18:39:07

I did this with DD1. I used to avoid anything with added sugar until 18 m (e.g. add pureed unsweetened fruit to natural yoghurt rather than bought flavoured yoghurt and no biscuits etc.) She has the sweetest tooth of any child I know and has no "off switch" when it comes to sweet food at parties etc. I didn't really do it with DD2 to anything like the same extent and while she quite likes sweet food she is much more restrained. Don't know if it had any bearing but can't help feeling disappointed with the way things turned out. You're obviously not depriving her but equally you may not be influencing her later eating habits if that's what you're hoping.

Jan49 Sun 13-Oct-13 18:39:32

My ds didn't have chocolate or icecream until he was 5. He's now a tall, slim, healthy eating young adult of 20 and when he eats things like chocolate it's very much in moderation. He also has very good teeth.

The only problem it ever caused us was other parents' disapproval, which I think was based on people seeing it as a criticism of their choices because their kids stuffed themselves silly on chocolate and crap and they preferred other people to agree with them.

slightlysoupstained Sun 13-Oct-13 18:45:06

I had DS carefully trained during mat leave. I would get a Magnum, he would get a healthy snack, then when I was finished he got the lolly stick to wave around, which he was entirely content with.

Then I went back to work and DP decided to take him out to a cafe for icecream every week. Bah. Now he knows.

YANBU OP. Though tbh by now we are tending to eat less rubbish as DS is more aware of what we're eating anyway. There's plenty of time for him to enjoy cake, chocolate etc, why rush?

slightlysoupstained Sun 13-Oct-13 18:45:09

I had DS carefully trained during mat leave. I would get a Magnum, he would get a healthy snack, then when I was finished he got the lolly stick to wave around, which he was entirely content with.

Then I went back to work and DP decided to take him out to a cafe for icecream every week. Bah. Now he knows.

YANBU OP. Though tbh by now we are tending to eat less rubbish as DS is more aware of what we're eating anyway. There's plenty of time for him to enjoy cake, chocolate etc, why rush?

Moche Sun 13-Oct-13 18:49:42

Jan49 - did your son ever ask (whine?) for chocolate - and were you just firm about saying 'no'? In other words: how did you do it!?
FWIW my son had zero sweet stuff (nothing whatsoever) until just before his second birthday (and even then just a crumb of cake) grin. Once he turned 2 the sweet opportunities (whether at others' houses or just in the supermarket) just started piling up and my resolve crumbled.
He's now three and a bit and would live of chocolate and sweets if I let him. And sometimes, hmm, actually quite often, I find chocolate gives me sweet relief (I mean, keeps him quiet). I know it's evil. I need feedback from Jan!

Moche Sun 13-Oct-13 18:50:34

zero artificial processed sweet stuff I mean...

IsleOfRight Sun 13-Oct-13 18:52:44

I did this for pfb. Dc2 however gets whatever is going.

nocarsgo Sun 13-Oct-13 19:00:57

I really don't understand this modern attitude that sugar is up there with heroin on the list of "Things Not To Give A Baby".

JenaiMorris Sun 13-Oct-13 19:08:26

Arf @ the lolly stick wand trick, slightlysoupstained grin

wonkylegs Sun 13-Oct-13 19:13:08

I've never overly restricted sweets or sugary stuff. DS is now 5 and has anything but a sweet tooth. At the party we went to today, of his own volition avoided cakes and piled up the ham sandwiches & carrot sticks. His favourite food is proper cheese and fruit. He does eat sweets sometimes but doesn't really like cake and ice cream is really hated hmm strange child, more for me though
Sweets/sweet things aren't bad as long as you can get a relatively balanced diet in them as well.

froken Sun 13-Oct-13 19:28:47

I was the child not allowed sweets. I actually thought carrob was chocolate until I started school and my friends turned their noses up at my carrob birthday cake sad we were also given bits of wood to chew on, they tasted like anaseed.

It didn't work, I was obsessed with sweets as an older child/young adult.

I now have better control over my sweet, we hardly ever have them but I still want them often!

My ds is 9mo, I do let him have tastes of sweet things if other people want to give him a taste of something. We had told my dp's grandma about the concept of baby led weaning, we went over for dinner with some chopped up pepper and advocado for ds ( he was only 6.5 months old) she had made mini versions of all the dishes including a little mini panocota in a cappuccino cup for ds. I let him have a tiny taste.

I don't think a tiny bit of sugar occasionally is going to make any difference at all, I don't want to be the sort of mum who gets grumpy because grandma gave the dc an icecream.

Jan49 Sun 13-Oct-13 19:28:52

Jan49 - did your son ever ask (whine?) for chocolate - and were you just firm about saying 'no'? In other words: how did you do it!?

We simply gave him what we wanted him to have. He had no reason to whine for chocolate because he'd never had any and didn't know what it was. If he saw us (his parents) eating something, he'd want it too, so obviously we made sure we were not eating unsuitable foods in front of him.

I know it sounds a bit weird but it worked for us.

dietcokeandwine Sun 13-Oct-13 20:22:19

Jan that sounds admirable but what about when you were around other children? Did he not go to any play dates or parties? I agree with not eating what you don't want them to eat in terms of your own family setting but it must have been harder to control when out and about.

MomentForLife Sun 13-Oct-13 20:36:15

YANBU because she's so young. Maybe when she's a bit bigger let her have a biscuit or something but nothing wrong with what you're doing.

My DD has a sweet tooth for stuff like biscuits but she's not fussed by sweets. I remember being allowed everything as a kid but Friday was designated sweet night. We were allowed fizzy pop at bdays, christmas, just not every week.

Cracks me up how so many parents think raisins are healthier than a small square of chocolate.

Raisins have more sugar in them and stuck like buggary to teeth!

I seriously think all these kids who are not allowed stuff when small will develop an unhealthy craving for 'bad' food.

LittleBearPad Sun 13-Oct-13 20:44:46

Froken that was very sweet of her. Loving the baby sized cappuccino.

A little sugar here and there won't hurt.

LittleBearPad Sun 13-Oct-13 20:47:13

DD loves raisins but I don't kid myself they're that healthy especially after something I ready day said a smallpox has as much sugar as 100 grapes. Happily (or maybe not, probably just as bad) the raisin love is reducing in favour of satsumas.

LittleBearPad Sun 13-Oct-13 20:48:12

Baby sized cappuccino confused now that would be bad. Loving the baby sized pannacotta.

FredFredGeorge Sun 13-Oct-13 21:00:49

"The first couple of years are the only time you have total control of their diet, might as well make the most of it."

But surely the point of raising children is not to want to control them ever, but to raise them such that they control themselves? Why start down the path of believing they need to be controlled, rather than raised?

minipie Sun 13-Oct-13 21:14:01

Processed sugar is actually really bad for you. Far far worse than fat. Not all sugars are equal in terms of how bad for you they are. Fruit sugar is a lot better than processed sugar. And breastmilk sugar is not bad at all - it's designed for us after all.

That said I don't think the odd sugary thing is going to do any harm - but it may be hard keep it to the odd occasion once they've had a taste.

OP, yanbu. I wasn't given sweets and chocolate growing up. I don't have a sweet tooth, in fact I don't like things that are very sweet (sticky toffee pudding tastes grim to me). It makes it much easier to stay thin! apart from the cheese addiction

happydaze77 Sun 13-Oct-13 21:24:28

One of MIL's doom and gloom stories: ''I knew someone who wouldn't let their kids have sweets - they ended up stealing others kids' sweets and chocolate a school'' . .

Xmasbaby11 Sun 13-Oct-13 21:46:48

YANBU, for now. DD is 21 mo and we just try to cut out/limit the processed food she has, sweet or savoury. Most food is homemade or bought toddler snacks, but she has things like adult cereal and yoghurt which all contain sugar. And she does have ice cream a couple of times a week, and if I order cake in a cafe, I always let her try some. She's not usually interested though.

There is a bit of a fear with our generation that as soon as our babies taste sugar, they will be hooked and demand nothing else, but as others have said, sugar is everywhere and they will need to get used to controlling their own urges. DD only eats when she is hungry though, IYSWIM, so I think she is regulating her own eating and will leave/ignore ice cream if not hungry.

2tiredtocare Sun 13-Oct-13 21:47:21

Whilst I agree that sweets are not for babies I would say don't restrict too much as it always seems to be the children that aren't allowed any chocolate etc that go crazy on it when left to their own devices at parties etc but whilst your DD is so young YANBU

slightlysoupstained Sun 13-Oct-13 22:15:38

I wasn't allowed sweets as a small child and I didn't go into any sugar deprived rampages.

I did eat a mint once, offered to me by another child's dad. I was too polite to say no, so I took it, sucked it for a bit & then disposed of it. As soon as my mother picked me up, she asked "have you been eating sweeties?" She wasn't particularly bothered about it but I concluded that she must have some motherly superpower and be able to read my mind.

Wasn't till years later that I figured out she'd just smelt the mint on my breath!

heartshape Sun 13-Oct-13 22:29:30

they all end up stuffing chocolate , energy drinks and mc donalds in the end , no matter what healthy start they had in life smile

mumofweeboys Sun 13-Oct-13 22:59:23

Wait until you have more children, you nip to the toilet during dinner to come back and find your eldest letting your 6 month old lick his chocolate biscuit grin

Which he only got as a treat (bribe) of being good in church

MrsMook Sun 13-Oct-13 23:06:03

I was never in a rush to let DS1 have sweet empty calories, but it was taken out of my hands by his allergies. He's nearly 3 and has never had chocolate - he would have otherwise. He had a cocoa Nakd bar today and said "chocolate". He points out "sweets" even though he rarely has them because few are suitable for him. He's begining to understand that some foods make him "poorly". It is hard when out in an environment of foods he can't eat, but some people seem to think it's a terrible thing that he can't eat sweet "treats". It was easier that he wasn't used to them before he had an exclusion diet, and he's more inclined to savoury foods anyway.

Had I have had a free choice in the matter, he would have had occasional treats from the age of 1.

Maryann1975 Sun 13-Oct-13 23:28:19

As babies you can control their diet completely, but once they are preschoolers I have no idea why parents forbid certain foods. IME that leads to children craving what they can't have and then gorging on it when they get the chance. I try to teach the dc about a healthy diet and how sweets and chocolate can form part of that in small amounts. It's just about being sensible, not making things a complete no just because they aren't healthy.
Just out of interest, what is actually in a sweet corn hoop? I'm not convinced processed baby snacks are brilliant either.

Jan49 Mon 14-Oct-13 03:07:04

Jan that sounds admirable but what about when you were around other children? Did he not go to any play dates or parties? I agree with not eating what you don't want them to eat in terms of your own family setting but it must have been harder to control when out and about.

Well I'm talking about when he was under 5 so the times when he ate at other children's houses were with friends already known to us, so they knew we didn't give him chocolate etc. I don't think parties really started til he started school.

But also I found that by age 5 he understood why it wasn't good to have lots of sweet things so he knew to make sensible choices. I suppose part of it comes down to the child's personality and some kids would have wanted whatever other kids had. I don't suppose it would have worked for more than one child in a family but he's the only child. He's exactly the same now as an adult whereas I find it hard to resist chocolate and have no will power.

Chunderella Mon 14-Oct-13 08:20:49

Lots of children will binge on sweet things whenever they get the chance, regardless of whether they're allowed them at other times. Allowing your child sweets, in moderation or otherwise, certainly isn't the slightest guarantee against them overindulging at parties. Humans have evolved to like sweet and fatty things and to eat them in as large a quantity as we can whenever they're available. There are very good reasons for this. But it does mean that whatever we do, the odds are that our children will eat more crap than is good for them. I can't see why anyone would want to start that process any sooner than they have to, though.

2tiredtocare Mon 14-Oct-13 14:11:10

I have 2 DDs and the PfB who never got any 'treats' cant self moderate when around them now where as the 2nd one often leaves them unfinished, could be a coincidence though I dont know

YANBU! My 6yo charge calls yoghurt covered raisins and fruit "Chocolate fruit". Her mother is inclined to let her believe that and I'm happy to go along with it! grin

zatyaballerina Mon 14-Oct-13 14:27:01

yanbu, what's the point in giving them to a baby who doesn't know the supposed big deal about sugary crap? It has zero positive benefits. There'll be an entire future where you'll be fighting off junk food culture.

As for kids who can't 'moderate' themselves, some just can't, if you put it in front of them they'll gorge themselves into obesity, if you keep them away from crap they won't have the opportunity to destroy their health. It's very unfair to expect a young child to resist temptation or moderate addictive substances. Adults often can't do it, how the hell are they supposed to? Some children can grow up skinny in a sugar filled house and they'll be skinny in any environment because their brain doesn't have the same responses to food that most people have, all unnecessarily fat children (barring the very tiny minority with genuine medical disorders/illness or who are on medication) come from homes where they are given crap and allowed to fill up on as much of it as they like.

2tiredtocare Mon 14-Oct-13 14:35:51

Well we dont do that!

loveandsmiles Mon 14-Oct-13 15:10:49

My first DC never got any sugary treats at all until she was about 5 and now, age 11 she would eat sweets and cake day and night if I let her. Second DC no sugary treats until he was about 3 and he is the same. Was much more relaxed with DC 3&4 and whilst they like a bit chocolate or cake, they can have just a bite or leave it for another day, they don't have to gorge as much as they can. DC 5 is just 7 months and so far has just had puréed fruit and veg but her older siblings are always trying to give her a lick of something grin

2tiredtocare Mon 14-Oct-13 16:10:21

That sounds like my experience exactly

HopLittleFroggiesHopSkipJump Mon 14-Oct-13 20:49:27

Maryann sweetcorn hoop contains corn, sunflower oil and thiamin(vit b1)

Moche Mon 14-Oct-13 20:54:12

Wow, jan, I have no idea how you managed to get your child to 5 without knowing what chocolate is! In fact, I rarely eat chocolate - so ds isn't copying me. If he copied me he'd drink wheatgrass and eat quinoa (plus crisps & red wine ;). At 3 there are lots of parties & he mixes with a lot of children...

slightlysoupstained Mon 14-Oct-13 22:06:13

I saved chocolate for DS's first birthday party. Made a proper cake & everything. Was anticipating blissed out delight from him.

Ungrateful wee thing chucked it on the floor without even trying it! Arm straight out to the side, head turned away, nose in air, and drop. As if it was something particularly stinky and unpleasant instead of lovingly crafted food of the gods.

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