wibu to call Dh common for sitting on the front door step. in the sun

(107 Posts)
waikikamookau Mon 07-Oct-13 15:05:21

tis a council house thing, imo. I wouldn't do it, <<didn't grow up on council estate, but DH did>>

LadyBeagleEyes Mon 07-Oct-13 15:06:18

I have no words.

Trills Mon 07-Oct-13 15:06:54

"A council house thing"? hmm

Pray tell, what exactly do you think will happen if he sits on the front doorstep?

GoldenGytha Mon 07-Oct-13 15:07:29


Me neither LadyBeagle

What???? Mad.

BackforGood Mon 07-Oct-13 15:08:01


Give him a bucket of soapy water and a stiff bristle brush and he can scrub it for you.

Was he topless? With a can of Special Brew?

livinginwonderland Mon 07-Oct-13 15:09:11

hmm biscuit

StitchingMoss Mon 07-Oct-13 15:09:30

???? I once lived in a lovely terrace in a very naice town, we always sat on the doorstep in the sun. It was wonderful and meant we got to chat to all the neighbours smile.

waikikamookau Mon 07-Oct-13 15:09:47

well <<shrugs>>

he didn't care.

aside from the council house remark <<why take offence>>

would you sit in your front garden, at the front door, in the sun

KirjavaTheCorpse Mon 07-Oct-13 15:09:55

Yabu. It would only be a council house thing if he was drinking a can of Stella, obviously.

WaitMonkey Mon 07-Oct-13 15:10:00


TheBigJessie Mon 07-Oct-13 15:10:47

Yes. You were.

Mind you, I think it's also very "common" to misuse common that way...


squoosh Mon 07-Oct-13 15:10:55

Occupy yourself with heating water for the copper bath.

Trills Mon 07-Oct-13 15:11:23

I wouldn't sit at the front of my house because I would worry that people would speak to me.

If I was happy to exchange friendly chat with the neighbours then I would do it.

Trills Mon 07-Oct-13 15:12:18

Why take offence? Er, because calling someone "common" is offensive?

He might get piles, have you some preparation H in just in case?

nethunsreject Mon 07-Oct-13 15:12:55

We all sit out on my 'residential development'. I went to private school and have a professional job AND read broadsheets. I listen to Radio 4. I go to the theatre. Therefore, it is NOT common! wink

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Mon 07-Oct-13 15:13:05

I sit outside my house at the front when its sunny and it has gone from the back round to the front. sometimes I take wine! shock I am clearly so common.

KirjavaTheCorpse Mon 07-Oct-13 15:13:29

Though to be fair people along my road do this, it's an 1800's terrace and no front gardens.

It is a bit weird walking past with their faces inches from my arse.

They own their houses btw.

cakeandcava Mon 07-Oct-13 15:13:33

DH and I often sit in the sun on the front door step of our owned non-council house, which is in a reasonably naice part of town even... hmm

usuallyright Mon 07-Oct-13 15:14:13

we wee told by our estate agent that the reason our house wasn't selling as fast as we hoped was because some of the neighbours opposite (who did indeed live in housing association owned new builds) sat on their front doorsteps drinking (it was only coffee/tea)
Funnily enough, the people who did buy our house, bought it on a very wet day when the neighbors couldn't sit out.
I predict 99.8% of mumsnetters will say you're being ridiculous, but my estate agent would've agreed with you!

Lj8893 Mon 07-Oct-13 15:14:23

I have lived in council house areas and nice private housing areas. All sorts of people sit on their doorsteps in the sun.

YABU. And not very nice.

nomorecrumbs Mon 07-Oct-13 15:14:49

My Dad lives on a council estate and he never sits on the front door step. The horror shock

He sits on a bench in his front garden instead. Much more comfortable.

waikikamookau Mon 07-Oct-13 15:16:28

some of you lot are ridiculous, and have a sense of humour failure,
my DH luckily for me, does have a sense of humour,

waikikamookau Mon 07-Oct-13 15:17:39

me and the estate agent know what is right alwaysright grin

Trills Mon 07-Oct-13 15:18:17

It's nice that you share a sense of humour, but you should realise that often when people don't think you're funny, it's not because they don't have a sense of humour, it's because you weren't funny.

Maybe it was funnier out loud? <being charitable> smile

HoneyDragon Mon 07-Oct-13 15:19:07

Well aren't you lucky.

What is funny about council houses? I'd love to get the joke.

waikikamookau Mon 07-Oct-13 15:22:12

I wouldn't mind a council house honey, I have HA house,

makingdoo Mon 07-Oct-13 15:22:28

I wouldn't where we live now because it's nicer to sit at the back door step.

I would and always have done at my parents house. All our neighbours did/do. But then we lived on a council estate.

YABVU and a bit of a dick tbh

Lj8893 Mon 07-Oct-13 15:22:36

Yeah, I do have a sense of humour (quite a good one actually grin) but perhaps I just don't get the joke this time?!

Can you explain it please?

SaskiaRembrandtVampireHunter Mon 07-Oct-13 15:23:15

I used to live next door to a family who liked to sit in the middle of the lane. They took deck chairs out and refreshments. Every so often a car would come along, so they'd all get up, move on to the verge (no pavement), then take everything back when it had gone.

And yes, they did have both front and back gardens.

usualsuspect Mon 07-Oct-13 15:26:11

I sit on the old mattress in my council house front garden.

pointythings Mon 07-Oct-13 15:30:15

I wouldn't, but that's because 1) we have no doorstep, and 2) we have one of those portico thingies that means the sun doesn't reach. I'm very envy of your DH...

TheBigJessie Mon 07-Oct-13 15:30:37

usual I hope you've rigged a roof of bin-bags over it to keep it dry!

waikikamookau Mon 07-Oct-13 15:31:36

come and visit pointy, if you want grin - my dh might budge up and make room for you, while I sit in the shadey back garden angst ridden

uptheanty Mon 07-Oct-13 15:31:48

It is a "British" thing I'd say....in all other European countries that I'm aware, everyone uses their front garden. It is bizarre to others that you wouldn't...it's your land. Why keep a perfectly front yard unusable? If the sun is there I would say enjoy...perhaps even line up your garden furniture to face outwards and drink expresso. Ridiculously overpriced of course grin

K8Middleton Mon 07-Oct-13 15:32:29

Oh Christ is he also <whispers> foreign?

Paul Dacre's probably on his way Right Now!

MrsDavidBowie Mon 07-Oct-13 15:34:19

Was he wearing a sleeveless tshirt?
In that case, he was.

Bowlersarm Mon 07-Oct-13 15:34:27

Did he have a shirt on........ Do you have a front wall he could sit on OP? Much more acceptable.

Edithmark Mon 07-Oct-13 15:35:24

I often sit on my front door steps, it gets the late afternoon sun and I can watch the DCs out on their bikes. Sometimes I peel the potatoes for tea out there too, as I remember doing with my nan when I was little...with a washing up bowl of water and a blunt peeler(for me) and a sharp knife for her. Now my neighbours stop and chat and it's nice. BTW I live in very naice area and most of the people in my road are 'professional' types. What's common about it?

Dahlen Mon 07-Oct-13 15:35:26

I put an old sofa outside my house once. It was much more comfy than sitting on the step. wink

What exactly is wrong about sitting on the step? I think it's quite nice actually - you can say hello to people as you walk down the street and build up good neighbourly relationships.

CoolStoryBro Mon 07-Oct-13 15:36:33

I think this may be one of those, "You had to be there jokes"' OP! grin

I like sitting in front of my house so much, we're having a huge, covered porch/deck being built. It will have whicker furniture, a hanging swing, pots of flowers and EVERYTHING.

waikikamookau Mon 07-Oct-13 15:36:54

an old work colleague went out to Australia and sun bathed on the front lawn and her mum I think, told her off, It was such a big deal that she told me about it when I worked with her.
so I am definitely not alone.

you are all just annoyed because I used the word common,
and mentioned council house,

Viviennemary Mon 07-Oct-13 15:42:11

Well I expect it would be OK if you live in a listed building and drank out of bone china antique teacups. grin

Lj8893 Mon 07-Oct-13 15:43:56

Well, can you not see why its a bit rude to say "sitting on your front doorstep is common and a council house thing"?!

Surely it would have to be a string vest.

I think people are being a bit unfair.

I wouldn't sit on my front door step as it never gets the sun. I used to when I lived in a terrace.

mistlethrush Mon 07-Oct-13 15:48:11

I used to do this in our previous house as it was the best place for summer afternoon sunshine. I don't in our new house as the garden is longer so I can still sit in the sun in the afternoon. It wasn't a Council house btw.

TiggyD Mon 07-Oct-13 15:49:38

I'm certainly not going to post on a thread started by somebody who's married somebody from a council estate, and acts like it! shock

TheBigJessie Mon 07-Oct-13 15:49:39

I was on the top deck of a bus once, and I saw a couple sun-bathing on the roof of their extension. Nude.

I need some MNers to retrospectively determine their socio-economic status. Stat!

cocoleBOO Mon 07-Oct-13 15:50:05

I've been known to drag an armchair out the front to sit on. I like to sleep on it.

maras2 Mon 07-Oct-13 15:52:24

Everyone knows that sitting on doorsteps gives you piles. < fact > My MIL knows these things.We must all be as common as muck as we've all done our fair share of doorstep sitting over the years. Bugger.Common and with sore arses.Life's a bitch innit.

Famzilla Mon 07-Oct-13 15:53:11

I wouldn't, because the horrible people opposite me do it and I don't wanna inhale their pot fumes, listen to their gobby 6 year old kids threaten to kick me in the cunt or watch them punch each other's remaining teeth out for nicking the others lambrini.

Oh, and the sun is blocked by the house.

waikikamookau Mon 07-Oct-13 15:53:31

an old fashioned thing to do perhaps?

LEMisdisappointed Mon 07-Oct-13 15:53:52

Your house is clearly on the wrong side of the road - i don't have to sit on my front door step, i sit in my lovely back garden

waikikamookau Mon 07-Oct-13 15:56:24

my back garden gets sun til 2.30 ish, <<depends when in the year I spose >> and goes further and further down the garden, til its gone, and its in the front , all afternoon I guess.

I did wonder about moving to a house opposite, good plan <<when they build them>>

Skinheadmermaid Mon 07-Oct-13 15:57:17

Only if he was smoking, drinking beer and keep peering back into the house to shout at a naked toddler that was being naughty.

TiggyD Mon 07-Oct-13 15:58:34

It's not that I don't like common people: I once met somebody who had been on a bus, but I don't feel I'd fit in on their threads. I'll go and post on a thread about balsamic vinegar or something a bit more...you know.

waikikamookau Mon 07-Oct-13 15:59:41

ha ha tiggy grin

SoupDragon Mon 07-Oct-13 15:59:58

I thought this said shitting!

I'm quite relieved.

waikikamookau Mon 07-Oct-13 16:02:01

I don't think even my dh would shit in the front garden, shock

SoupDragon Mon 07-Oct-13 16:05:18

Quite - I thought "Do you really need to ask whether that's common? Really??" Then I saw it on Active Conversations again and realised what it said grin

Apparently the previous owners of my house used to sit on the front step and drink wine as it catches the last sun of the day.

Tabby1963 Mon 07-Oct-13 16:05:18

I don't need to sit on the top step, I have a fold up chair by the front door specifically for this purpose. Many a time I have been sitting outside the front door (in full view of the whole street!) with laptop, cuppa and plate of biscuits. I had no idea it was 'common', and I couldn't give a fig either lol.

ProfondoRosso Mon 07-Oct-13 16:05:51

YABU to call anyone common. As is anyone else who describes people as 'common.' Common compared to what/who?

TheBigJessie Mon 07-Oct-13 16:07:13

Oi. Someone answer my question!

waikikamookau Mon 07-Oct-13 16:09:34

you don't want my opinion The Big Jessie grin

um, hmm, neither, more like free spirits ,

or they just could be drunks

TheBigJessie Mon 07-Oct-13 16:14:11

If they were drunk, that's even more worrying.

It was well before 7pm!

noddyholder Mon 07-Oct-13 16:20:57

I would and the people opposite us all do as its sunnier than the back and I live in a naice road shock I also hang my washing on the balcony eat in the street and went to private school!

Nombrechanger Mon 07-Oct-13 16:21:01

I agree with you. It is a bit common.

I wouldn't do it myself and I'm glad that people don't do it on my road.

waikikamookau Mon 07-Oct-13 16:23:09

brave to post that nombrechamber

magentastardust Mon 07-Oct-13 16:23:56

My friends mum used to give us into trouble for sitting on her front door step when we were teenagers as it was common -so it appears you are not alone.

noddyholder Mon 07-Oct-13 16:24:32

Tbh you sound more common than him he is at least comfortable enough to do what he wants in his own home you on the other hand are stifled

noddyholder Mon 07-Oct-13 16:27:49


BadSeedsAddict Mon 07-Oct-13 16:30:12

Read an anthropology book about unspoken habits and 'rules' in England. The woman doing the research found that most front gardens were for show, and that the front gardens with old sofas in them were almost the only ones where people actually sat out!

MrsDeVere Mon 07-Oct-13 16:31:35

This reminds me of a thread on MN or NM (can't remember which, don't judge me)

The OP was in a right old state about something or other and launched into a rant about people living around her and their shortcomings. It culminated in a '......and they sit outside the front of their houses!'

Like it was the worst thing about everything they did.

It was bemusing to say the least but she expected everyone to understand her disgust.

Its probably a wc thing because two up two downs didn't have front gardens and gran used to sit on a chair out the front to mind the kids who played in the street.

ProfondoRosso Mon 07-Oct-13 16:32:03

Can I ask an honest (and hopefully not rude) question? Is using 'common' to describe someone more of an English thing, when compared to the rest of Britain? I'm in Glasgow, and if someone said it here (among the people I know at least), they'd be jeered off the face of the earth, and probably castigated for being class-obsessed and snooty.

Genuinely, I am not suggesting England is 'snobbier' than Scotland, but I just never, ever hear the word up here! And when I first saw it used on MN found it a bit Dickensian! grin Absolutely not meant as a criticism of anyone - more a curious linguistic enquiry.

usualsuspect Mon 07-Oct-13 16:32:36

I'm laughing my head off that some posters on mn are so up themselves they think other people are 'common'

waikikamookau Mon 07-Oct-13 16:32:42
waikikamookau Mon 07-Oct-13 16:37:49

common is not a word I use in RL. <<apart from joking to my dh>> - It is an undated term.
perhaps overtaken by pleb, <<if that is even used>>

Mogz Mon 07-Oct-13 16:42:30

There's something lovely about a street where people sit outside the fronts of their houses and engage in conversation, or just friendly nodding. We don't talk to the people in our communities anywhere near enough these days. My dad likes to sit out and play his guitar, the neighbours often come by to listen, or sing with him. He's never lived on a council estate btw, but I imagine he'd do it there if he did, or if he lived in a big posh house.

MrsDeVere Mon 07-Oct-13 16:44:24

I have to sit in the front garden.
Its where I keep the fridge.

Luckily there is a mattress out there in case I get tired.

I can see the telly through the front room window because its 82 inches (the telly not the window). The bit of cardboard blocks my view a bit but you can't have it all can you?

JakeBullet Mon 07-Oct-13 16:46:16

I live in a cul de sac which is all housing association properties. When the weather is nice ALL my immediate neighbours sit out the front in deckchairs etc and drink lager. It drives me nuts but on the other hand everyone is very good natured and good hearted. If I was in trouble they would be there in a heartbeat.

The noise level irritates me at times but I just try and ignore it as much as possible.

noddyholder Mon 07-Oct-13 16:49:01

Mogz I agree I would hate to live somewhere where people felt they had to stay in their little boxes. People sit out everywhere where I live and its great to walk home in summer and stop and chat

waikikamookau Mon 07-Oct-13 16:51:30

tbh you couldn't chat on our doorstep. the noise from the passing traffic would stop that.
but dh doesn't care, he was reading, he just nods

noddyholder Mon 07-Oct-13 16:53:24

He sounds cool.

Jux Mon 07-Oct-13 16:54:14

Gosh yes, I'd sit wherever the sun was, and have done so on many occasions. It's nothing to do with class, upbringing, council estates. I was brought up in a very posh suburb, went to prep school etc. We all sat in the front if that was where the sun was and we wanted to. Nothong wrong with it at all.

Think there's a bit of Hyacinth Bucket hanging around here grin

JessePinkmansBitch Mon 07-Oct-13 16:55:10

Oh, come on! My dad loves sitting on his front step in the sun, usually with a bottle of Bud in one hand shock and his Kindle in the other. He owns his house outright, btw, hth.

5madthings Mon 07-Oct-13 16:56:46

I am currently sat in my front garden having a fag, I would sit on the bench we have but rather annoyingly I have no WiFi signal if I sit there,my daughter is on her scooter in only a pair of knickers and a top, that's pretty well dressed for her and my house is an ex council house grin

I wouldn't do it. And I actually do live in a council house.

noddyholder Mon 07-Oct-13 17:05:18

Can I ask those who say no they wouldn't so it Why?

waikikamookau Mon 07-Oct-13 17:07:10

I would have to talk to people as they went by wink

it is too noisy though, not pleasant imo.

5madthings Mon 07-Oct-13 17:10:47

I live in a very quiet cul de sac and have a driveway so not right in the street but its nice, the neighbors all say hello etc, kids play out, its one of the reasons we bought this house.

usualsuspect Mon 07-Oct-13 17:15:09

My back garden backs onto a busy road, it's actually quieter on the front.

propertyNIGHTmareBEFOREXMAS Mon 07-Oct-13 17:19:17

You see more of sitting on front steps on council estates than you do elsewhere, imo. That does not make it an undesirable trait though! I enjoy sitting outside the front of my 'executive detached' grin as the front is south facing and even at this time of year can be nice. I sat out this morning in fact and enjoyed a cuppa.

YourMaNoBraBackOfMyHearse Mon 07-Oct-13 17:36:40

I dont mind it when you see someone just sat there having a brew or a fag and just relaxing. But my neighbour across the road lets every teenager in the area congregate in her garden and they either shout abuse at passers by or go completely silent and burst into laughter after you pass. Not nice for anyone. Had i seen that when viewing our house I wouldnt have bought it. I love bad weather. They all fuck off and take their surliness and faces like slapped arses elsewhere. The house attached to hers has been upv for sale for 8 months. I dont think her neighbour has the guts to ask them to move.

Llareggub Mon 07-Oct-13 17:44:39

Everyone sits out the front in our street. We live on a hill overlooking the sea. We sit where the view is.

The only people who worry about what others think are insecure.

Bertrude Mon 07-Oct-13 17:54:29

I have a table and chairs in my front yard.

I have even been known to drink wine from a box whilst sitting there.

If I'd been able to get special brew, husband would have sat drinking that for comedy value

I can assure you, it is not a council house 4 bed, sea view, very swanky estate and we are both high earning professionals. But we are most definitely common grin

Edithmark Mon 07-Oct-13 17:58:08

grin at Mrs Devere.

Badvoc Mon 07-Oct-13 17:59:40

You're a charmer, aren't you?

Preciousbane Mon 07-Oct-13 18:03:13

I love sitting on my front step, I have a little garden which is basked in late afternoon sun. Reminds me of being small, I used to be sat out on the front step for hours at the age of 2. Can you imagine that these days.

I'm in a council house and I have been doing this while toddler played out and my neighbour was in her garden.

Couldn't give a diving pope if its common.

littlewhitebag Mon 07-Oct-13 19:03:25

I would never sit on my front step. My house is north facing and it is always cold.

The back door however is lovely. I like to sit positioned just inside the doorway out of the draught. My DH has put a table and chairs plus a bench in the garden, but i prefer the doorway.

I grew up in a council house grin. My current house is proper posh.

Salmotrutta Mon 07-Oct-13 19:04:43

Does he eat in the street as well?


Edithmark Mon 07-Oct-13 20:01:30

And me and DHT always sit on our back step despite having a table and chairs outside. It's companiable...we wedge ourselves in the door way that way you can be warmish and hear the DCs but still be outside with a beer in your hand enjoying the sunset.

Salmotrutta Mon 07-Oct-13 20:06:57

A beer in your hand??? shock

What would Her Maj think? shock

Edithmark Mon 07-Oct-13 22:34:09

I know! But is Ok we are def. middle class got masters degrees from posh universities and read The Guardian. Also go to the opera a lot. And have actually truly been to tea with the Queen (ok, a garden party, but even so...). It was Her Maj wot gave us speshul dispensation to drink beer in our own garden and never mind what the neighbours think. That's what she and Phil do of an evening. Then they ring for a kebab. It's traditional English life.

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