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To consider reporting a friend for benefits fraud

(95 Posts)
bimbabirba Thu 03-Oct-13 21:05:22

She's a former colleague who has been quite close to me and the rest of my family in the last two years. So much so that we went on holiday with our DCs and partners during summer and had a great time together.
I've always known that she has a blue badge for back pain and I was already uncomfortable about it. Not once in almost 3 years have I seen her struggle, limp, drag her feet, etc. We went hiking this summer and she didn't flinch! She regularly picks ups and carries around my toddler and not once has she struggled! I've only ever seen her "in pain" the day she went to a GP appointment and guess what? That day she was on crutches! The rest of the time she does everything absolutely normally!
I've recently discovered that she's been awarded the highest rate of the mobility component of DLA for being "virtually unable to walk" and I'm disgusted. She has had an operation a few years ago due to a whiplash injury and I really feel she's been milking it big time. She can be very persuasive so I can see how she would manage to bullshit her way through the system.
The trouble is, I work in this field and the idea that this person is on DLA HR mob is totally repulsive to me because I know what the qualifying criteria are and she definitely doesn't fit them.
I'm also considering befriending her but would I be a total bitch if I reported her?
Thanks for your opinions!

DSM Thu 03-Oct-13 21:12:08

Nope.

I had a 'friend' once who was frauding the system (claimed she was a single parent when her partner was working FT, they got housed, benefits etc) and I cut her out of my life. I wasn't brave enough to tell her why or report her and I regret it.

It makes me sick. He earned more than we did and they took all the handouts whilst we got nothing.

Melonbreath Thu 03-Oct-13 21:13:44

Yanbu.
Report her, it's anonymous

IWishYouWould Thu 03-Oct-13 21:15:01

If you already know the criteria; could you be just seeing her on 'good' days and she's housebound on 'bad' days? Or do you see her enough to be certain she is faking her symptoms? If its the latter then I would report her. Each person taking from the system fraudulently, leaves less for those really in need.

JumpingJackSprat Thu 03-Oct-13 21:15:30

report. if shes not defrauding then she has nothing to hide.

gamerchick Thu 03-Oct-13 21:17:06

No I wouldn't. She'll get caught eventually all on her own.

HeySoulSister Thu 03-Oct-13 21:18:41

Nah..... You don't know enough about her. You are just guessing. Those saying report her..... What if he benefits are cut whilst she's investigated?? Maybe she would struggle?

Have you considered that she may have a fluctuating condition, and that you see her on her best days?

My DH has MS. On a good day he can walk without sticks and do lots of things. He has poor feeling in his hands, but it's not visible to others. On a bad day he needs a stick for balance, gets tired and finds it hard to do buttons.

On the worst days he could be paralysed down one side, or barely able to feel his hands. On those days he can't open the door to the house, open a jar, cook...

quoteunquote Thu 03-Oct-13 21:21:31

Have you talked to her about it?

Dahlen Thu 03-Oct-13 21:23:27

Have you asked her about her condition?

kali110 United States Thu 03-Oct-13 21:25:30

How often do u see her?i have damage to my spine and knee caps. Some days i cant get out of bed let alone work but on good days i can meet friends or extremely rarely see a band!
You may see her on good days or maybe she doesnt say when shes in pain? Though im always trying to see the good in people.
I do think if she really struggles then you would have seen some evidence. My colleagues always could tell when i was having a bAd day.
Mind you, I'm not claiming anything as doc thinks I'm fit for work if i dose myself up on morphine all day, anybody know a job you can do when your spaced out??

valiumredhead Thu 03-Oct-13 21:26:25

No, mind your own business. She might have a fluctuating condition and one which her doctor thinks is permanent as that's the only way to qualify for a blue badge.

I have a blue badge,I was so busy today, and on my feet for a lot of it. Tomorrow I won't be able to move and will spend most of the day with ice packs on my feet / ankles hobbling around.

bimbabirba Thu 03-Oct-13 21:26:29

Definitely not a case of her struggling if not on DLA. She's a top solicitor and her husband an accountant, they're well-off and would not struggle without DLA.
Back pain is very variable but I have never seen her struggle or even heard her complain and I see her every week, used to see her every day when we worked together. You have to be "virtually unable to walk" most days for HR mob and that's definitely not the case.
On holiday she managed to hike up a mountain with no trouble.

If you're sure she is playing the system, then yes, I would definitely report her. But you do have to consider that she may have a fluctuating condition as already mentioned.

BrokenSunglasses Thu 03-Oct-13 21:27:14

If you have strong reason to believe she's committing fraud, then of course you should report her. Why do you even need to ask?

Dahlen Thu 03-Oct-13 21:30:10

If she's a top solicitor, her H is an accountant and they're well off, why do you think they're making a fraudulent claim? In their situation wouldn't the risk assessment make it a stupid idea?

CooCooCachoo Thu 03-Oct-13 21:31:41

It's fraud, report, report, report!

ConfusedDotty England Thu 03-Oct-13 21:35:46

Report her. It's wrong and ultimately you are paying for her benefits. I reported a so called friend for exactly the same thing years ago and I have no qualms about it. No one should get something for nothing.

bimbabirba Thu 03-Oct-13 21:36:01

If she's a top solicitor, her H is an accountant and they're well off, why do you think they're making a fraudulent claim?
Because she spends money like water

bimbabirba Thu 03-Oct-13 21:37:10

She has been hinting at wanting a new car for the past few months too

Jinsei Thu 03-Oct-13 21:43:24

How did you find out that she is clIming HR DLA? Is it possible that this could be a misunderstanding?

Is this definitely not because of something else? It reads like you really don't like her?

If not then of course, report it.

HeySoulSister Thu 03-Oct-13 21:45:59

What is a 'top solicitor'?

And which mountain did she climb?

bimbabirba Thu 03-Oct-13 21:48:09

I do like her a lot apart for the "dodgy" side of her which also made her sue two former employers because of her bad back and fund home improvements with the money.
She told my DH about the DLA. A while ago she wanted me to help her get it and she backed off when I said I really didn't think she qualified. I thought she on the idea but clearly not. She said she has taken it to Tribunal and clearly the crutches have worked

bimbabirba Thu 03-Oct-13 21:48:57

*I thought she had given up on the idea

CooCooCachoo Thu 03-Oct-13 21:50:34

I'm also a solicitor and am bombarded with anti fraud training, admittedly have moved from banking/finance to public sector so to be expected, but I'm pretty sure she ought to know better....pretty standard conduct rules stuff!

hettienne Thu 03-Oct-13 21:51:31

If she's really your friend, then you would warn her and give her a chance to stop claiming herself before reporting her.

Doubtfuldaphne Thu 03-Oct-13 21:53:12

She's got a nerve being so brazen about it all knowing that you work in that sector hasn't she? Does she have no conscience?

TwoMuchTwoYoung Thu 03-Oct-13 21:54:39

No I wouldn't. She'll get caught eventually all on her own.
Not everyone gets caught though do they? So that's bollocks I'm afraid.
Yes report her.

CooCooCachoo Thu 03-Oct-13 21:54:43

Xposted with your last post op. that's pretty high level stuff...tribunals etc.... Do you think there might not be some truth in her claims? Only ask because she should know the professional repercussions and I wouldn't have thought she would risk suing an employer (especially a law firm) unless she was on fairly solid ground.

Given that you work in this area I think I might be tempted to tell her a long story of acse you've recently seen where a person claimed for HR DLA and was turned in for it and what a terrible experience it's been for them and wha a lot they've lost and how so many people report relatives etc etc. See if you can prick her conscience and get herself off the DLA before the shit hits the fan. If she doesn't take the hit then I would report her fraudulent arse.

Viviennemary Thu 03-Oct-13 21:57:24

I'd be very cautious. She may well have very bad days when she does suffer a lot of pain.

Dahlen Thu 03-Oct-13 21:58:12

Is there more to this than we or you know?

I have a 58-year-old relative who is autistic, had a heart problem that required one lot of open-heart surgery and another upcoming, and yet she only just won her right to middle-rate DLA at tribunal despite supporting evidence from her GP and consultant.

bimbabirba Thu 03-Oct-13 21:59:46

She sued her former employer for not fitting a staircase and constructive dismissal on those grounds. They settled out of court to the tune of £15,000.
I worked in that office and I saw that unless the big boss was around she has no trouble going up the stairs!

Dahlen Thu 03-Oct-13 22:00:19

If you really consider her a friend, you would tell her that you believe she is claiming fraudulently and that if she doesn't stop you will report her. If you don't want to do that but would prefer to go behind her back, you are not her friend - and if she is a genuine fraudster why would you want to be her friend anyway?

bimbabirba Thu 03-Oct-13 22:07:11

She does have medical evidence of spine damage and she's had a metal plate inserted so it's not all bollocks. However, it's quite possible that her condition had greatly improved since the operation (or because of it). A doctor can only say that they see "damage" but quite how severely that damage affects a person, a doctor would be hard pushed to say.
The thing with DLA is that it's awarded on the effect of the condition on mobility (or daily living) rather than the condition itself, IYSWIM so, inevitably, a decision must be heavily based on believing or disbelieving what the claimant says.

HarryStottle Thu 03-Oct-13 22:09:02

I smell fish

bimbabirba Thu 03-Oct-13 22:11:37

The idea about telling her a story about someone who got caught is very good.

specialsubject Thu 03-Oct-13 22:13:47

there are some determined, manipulative liars about.

there are also people who have good days and really bad days.

if you are sure she is the first, report her - she deserves all she gets.

bimbabirba Thu 03-Oct-13 22:18:32

Of course I've considered that she may be ill on the days I don't see her or talk to het but normally she has no shame in saying that she has a headache or is "hormonal" or has a cold so I don't see why she would not say that her back hurts if it really does? Just like she says when something else is wrong

PrincessFiorimonde Thu 03-Oct-13 22:26:45

If you are really sure she isn't getting DLA for some other condition other than the back condition you mention - then I agree you should actually speak to her about this. I agree with Dahlen here: "If you don't want to do that [speak to her] but would prefer to go behind her back, you are not her friend - and if she is a genuine fraudster why would you want to be her friend anyway?"

GreenGiant3 Thu 03-Oct-13 22:27:56

I really think your a sneaky sort OP and I would want to DE-FRIEND you if I were the other woman... Why don't you grow a back bone and confront her if you really are a good friend, tell her your not happy maybe you will get a decent explanation.

This story all sounds a bit fishy and if she's a " top solicitor" she will know what's right and wrong... And she will know what she's doing.

Either tell her your issue or stay away from it, you sound jealous.

hermioneweasley Thu 03-Oct-13 22:29:41

Report her. Outrageous. People like her are the reason there is so much skepticism about disability benefits.

PrincessFiorimonde Thu 03-Oct-13 22:31:07

I've just Googled the DLA rates. So a top solicitor and an accountant are risking prosecution, criminal records, fines, possible prison sentences, and career disbarral - all for £55.25 a week?

LayMizzRarb Thu 03-Oct-13 22:33:02

If what you are saying is true, then her claims are fraudulent. She is STEALING. From the tax payer. If you saw someone stealing on a regular basis from an elderly ladies purse, would you ignore it? because you don't have a name or face for the victim is not a defence for ignoring it.

Multiply your friends claims by at least a thousand, for the number of people up and down the country doing just the same and that's quite a sum of money.

GreenGiant3 Thu 03-Oct-13 22:33:43

Princess well done. This post is a lot of crap gringrin

Honestly I thought that.

Either that or the OP really has her own issues going on...

bimbabirba Thu 03-Oct-13 22:34:14

I'm not sneaky or someone to go behind someone's back. To the contrary, I'm often in trouble for speaking up. Thats way I'm not sure about reporting and probably won't do it in the end.
Had she told me about the DLA, I would have asked her how she managed to persuade the Tribunal that she's almost paralysed. However, she told my DH and she hardly says anything at all to me about her condition.
It's not straightforward to ask or confront her about it so don't be so ready to jump to the conclusion that I'm a manipulative bitch here

DontCallMeDaughter Thu 03-Oct-13 22:35:26

I reported a family member for housing benefit fraud. Three years later and he's still claiming it fraudulently. The person I spoke to on the phone confirmed all the details I gave them so I know they have all of the facts... and nothing ever came of it. So report away, just don't expect anything to happen...

ilovesooty Netherlands Thu 03-Oct-13 22:35:27

So a top solicitor and an accountant are risking prosecution, criminal records, fines, possible prison sentences, and career disbarral - all for £55.25 a week?

I find that positively incredible too.

zower Thu 03-Oct-13 22:40:31

i think you need to back off. maybe you are right, but maybe there's stuff you don't know about her condition, fluctuating etc. either way you dont sound like her friend, and its probsbly best to move on.

philosophicmum Thu 03-Oct-13 22:44:08

I find it hard to believe. DLA even at the highest rates isn't that much money if you're well off already, and it's not a particularly easy way to commit fraud. If she was crooked and determined to steal, there are easier ways than a fraudulent DLA claim.

About the only way I could believe would be if there had been a time in the recent past when she really was barely mobile at all, and got the DLA then, and hasn't notified anyone about her condition changing. And it's also possible that she's expecting it to get worse again and this is only a temporary improvement, and she doesn't see the point of getting it cancelled only to have to reapply again in a few months, given how long it takes to get all the paperwork done and processed.

AnandaTimeIn Thu 03-Oct-13 22:46:19

You are not really a friend if you are putting her "case" on MN rather than just asking her.

How do you know her whole story? Cos you don't. Why didn't you ask her while she was enjoying walks with you? You could have brought up the previous case you talk about here too.

If you were my friend I would hope you approach me instead of going public on MN.

I believe in karma anyway. If she is taking the piss it will come to light sooner or later.

bimbabirba Thu 03-Oct-13 22:49:37

It may sound hard to believe that someone would risk her career for £55 per week but equally some people think they're above the law or can get their way all the time

bimbabirba Thu 03-Oct-13 22:52:06

No I don't believe that she'll be found out if no one reports her.
I didn't go public on MN! This is all anonymous and I haven't given very specific info, have I? How ridiculous!

bimbabirba Thu 03-Oct-13 22:55:03

Sometimes you just warn to gauge people's views before you confront someone, or before you decide to drop the issue or even de/friend someone. I thought that was the point of an anonymous forum and definitely didn't think it makes me "sneaky"

DoubleLifeIsALifeHalved Thu 03-Oct-13 22:55:09

Well it sounds an odd story either way!

I've sat in on tribunals and I find it hard to believe that a pair of crutches would sway them I'm afraid. And higher rate mob is the one they particularly watch for with fraud and crutches in no way get you through. In fact, crutches would be a sign that she probably does not fit the criteria as they imply an activity level beyond the criteria.

Your story is confusing, as i believe that alot of disability is hidden from the outside world and it's very sad that people feel they have a right to decide how ill or disabled a person is without asking them, we don't have it displayed for the world to see you know.

On the other side, going hiking is a step too far in that direction if it really was full on hiking? Even with a variable condition, someone wouldn't be that well for a sustained period of time and be able to claim that rate dla. However I think some of my more distant colleagues would say the same about me as they see me for 3 hrs weekly whilst I'm lying on a sofa but going to the loo and to get a drink ok... However it's only about 4 meters away so I can put up a pretense of normality for that long, and they don't see the 48 hrs of pain that comes after the weekly performance.

Mostly, I do find it hard to believe that a professional couple on their wages would risk all for the small amount if dla money given. I do see that a solicitor might be uniquely qualified to be able to defraud the system (access to case law etc), however, they have so little reason to and a huge incentive not to.

The way people go on about dla makes it sound like its a free ticket to a life of no work and many holidays a year. It's really not, it makes the difference between surviving and not surviving for disabled people. It's really hard to get and the fraud rate is the lowest of any benefit.

Conclusion: I think you should talk to her about her illness and ask her how it is nowadays... Maybe she doesn't mention it because it makes her feel down admitting how bad it is, or maybe it's private, or maybe she knows it's a conversation killer (believe me it really is!), and she d rather talk about things a well and healthy person can relate to. Or maybe she's a no good fraudster. You just don't know.

DoubleLifeIsALifeHalved Thu 03-Oct-13 22:57:32

Btw it will come to light sooner or later... If she really is getting higher rate dla then like everyone else in the country she will have to undergo an Atos reassessment and go onto the new benefit scheme.

But if you work in the area, shouldn't you know that???

pippibluestocking Thu 03-Oct-13 22:58:12

That's a very good question, Princess (:-~)

bimbabirba Thu 03-Oct-13 22:58:56

Erm yes, and I don't have much hope
That ATOS will see the truth either way

GreenGiant3 Thu 03-Oct-13 22:59:29

What strikes me as ridiculous is;

1. You would not confront this friend to her face before considering reporting her, which makes you a bad friend
2. A solicitor and accountant would risk criminal records and career loss to fraudulently claim benefits
3. That a "top solicitor" would want to risk everything for the sake of £55.25 per week (I'm sure that she would know of other ways of stealing more money if that was what was intended)
4. You are taking what your husband has said she said as she didn't want to tell you... I wonder why.

Talk to her. If not leave her. This thread is ridiculous confused

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Thu 03-Oct-13 23:01:01

While 50 od quid a week should not be much to a high earning couple, sometimes people do the strangest things. Look at the celebs (Anthony Worrall Thompson comes to mind) who have been caught shoplifting trivial, low-value items. You'd think they would reason that, given the bad publicity and negative hit on their career if they got caught, it's not worth it - but presumably they just didn't think that way.

OP I am in the 'report her and let the authorities decide' camp. And don't tell her beforehand. If she's claiming fraudulently (and as a solicitor I don't see how it could be getting it wrong out of ignorance) she won't react well to knowing who reported her, and you will get a load of grief from her even though she brought it on herself, because she'll then work out that it was you who reported her.

morethanpotatoprints Thu 03-Oct-13 23:04:09

I Agree, you are not much of a friend.
She sounds like my friend, who never complains, or struggles, or finds things difficult etc.
Her 11 year old dd secretly calls me if she is ill because friend won't ask for help. Sometimes she cannot move and is in agony. I wouldn't know if her dd didn't tell me.
You are a nasty piece of work and no friend.

bimbabirba Thu 03-Oct-13 23:06:31

Yes I thought of that. If I ask her lots of questions and sound suspicious it'll be straightforward for her to work out that it was me who reported her, also considering what I do.
I don't know what she would do as revenge but I would definetely not want to find out.

bimbabirba Thu 03-Oct-13 23:09:43

Nasty piece of work? Me? Because I'm pissed off that someone who goes hiking up a mountain and only uses crutches for going to GP and Tribunal gets money that's intended for truly ill people?
Thanks shock

DoubleLifeIsALifeHalved Thu 03-Oct-13 23:12:03

Why don't you trust ATos not to strip her of benefits?!

That's what you want to happen, and that's what Atos are doing to people, so I'd have thought it was the perfect solution!

arethereanyleftatall Thu 03-Oct-13 23:12:50

Report her. It's not fair on those who genuinely need the money.

No one would do this for £55 a week

It beggars belief

A solicitor and an accountant will have 100k coming in so it would be pointless

bimbabirba Thu 03-Oct-13 23:16:20

Because it'll be years before they reassess everyone and because they have a tendency to get it wrong so if I'm right and she's not genuine, ATOS will probably say that she is

Lj8893 Thu 03-Oct-13 23:16:21

Hmm, I would talk to her first before contemplating reporting her.

I think calling you a nasty piece of work is a bit strong but you don't sound like you actually like her, several things you have said don't sound particularly friendly. Perhaps this could be clouding your judgement?

Brokensoul Thu 03-Oct-13 23:18:55

My DB ( not in UK) has got a problem with back and hips.He is working even though he is in so much pain and many people would not even think that he has any issues but lots of times I saw him literally carrying his legs out of the car and then pulling himself. Saying that, on other days he is playing basketball. As long as you are 100% sure it's up to to you but remember goes around comes around. Make sure the info you have is correct.
I would never do it, would break the friendship probably but rest I would leave it to resolve itself

valiumredhead Thu 03-Oct-13 23:25:02

Top solicitor?
Plate in her back?
Climbing mountains?

Have a word with yourself !grin

ilovesooty Netherlands Thu 03-Oct-13 23:27:38

It just sounds as though you really don't like her much.

bimbabirba Thu 03-Oct-13 23:30:56

Time to go to bed. What's the point of posting if half of the people don't believe you and you have to keep telling them none of this is made up?

GreenGiant3 Thu 03-Oct-13 23:32:33

Sod's law OP.. You did ask AIBU... You don't like the majority think YABU.

Take a video on your phone of her lifting a child and hill walking.
Then send it to ATOS.
Make sure you get someone to call her name and her answering
"Oi, Mrs Smith slow down......Susan your lace is undone"

And yes, with the information about her job/her DH job/ the stairs/the surgery .....it could be identifying.

FanjoForTheMammaries Thu 03-Oct-13 23:35:49

Wow this is an err interesting thread

Lj8893 Thu 03-Oct-13 23:42:13

Ahh the standard, "not everyone is agreeing with me so I'm going to have a strop" AIBU post.

AnaisHendricks Thu 03-Oct-13 23:54:13

If she's part of a high-earning couple, maybe she doesn't actually get DLA at all and has bought a black-market stolen Blue Badge! Have you seen her stamped photograph on the back of it?

valiumredhead Fri 04-Oct-13 00:01:01

DLA is separate from income afaik.

AnaisHendricks Fri 04-Oct-13 00:14:31

I known it isn't means-tested but wondered if the "friend" had lied about the DLA award in order to excuse the possession of a Blue Badge.

OP could have seen the back of the badge and the award letter for all I know but the only person to ever look at DS' was on a toll bridge* and he checked that he was in the car because the badge was registered to him.

*Typing toll bridge was very odd. I felt as if I was breaking talk guidelines!

SeaSickSal Fri 04-Oct-13 00:15:21

Report. People like her are the reason genuine claimants are having such a hard time at the moment.

valiumredhead Fri 04-Oct-13 00:30:08

You can have a BB without claiming benefits/DLA.

Lottystar Fri 04-Oct-13 00:35:21

The poster asked a question and agree with her or not, I find some of the hostility from a few on here a bit harsh. If you think a post is 'ridiculous' don't read on or bother replying! Simple.

In relation to the question, I'd do as a few others have suggested. Broach the subject of her back with her and ask how she's found the process for applying for the benefit. Say your she happened to mention it to you. Maybe she generally feels that your opinion would be disapproving or hard line as you work in the sector. Perhaps she's worried about your judgement of her. You'll ascertain if she's bullsh*tting I think. I'm not a softy on these matters but without real fail proof evidence your complaint 's likely to come to anything and you may lose her friendship. I'm not sure you sound close anyway but weigh up the bad feeling it could cause.

AnaisHendricks Fri 04-Oct-13 00:42:28

You can, valium. Not for a child in my county without a HRM award though and the discretionary rules vary. Which is why I was wondering if the friend had invented the DLA.

SeaSickSal Fri 04-Oct-13 00:44:20

Is it possible that perhaps she is on benefits for something different like mental health issues but doesn't want to tell you so blames a bad back?

If so if you reported obviously she wouldn't get in trouble.

SugarMouse1 Fri 04-Oct-13 00:44:55

End the friendship if you find it hard to accept her values , or lack of them.

Have a frank talk with her and tell her what you think, be honest, don't go behind her back. Tell her if she doesn't stop claiming, you will report her.

If you genuinely like her as a friend, do you really want her to get in trouble for fraud?

Also, what is the point in the jealousy? It will just leave you bitter, so just focus your energy on something more positive.

IneedAsockamnesty Fri 04-Oct-13 01:19:13

op

I'm really confused, I'm assuming your friend is an adult?

If so how on earth did she manage a brand new claim for a benefit that has not been able to be claimed by new claimants over the age of 16 for 6 months?

GobbySadcase Fri 04-Oct-13 01:25:28

It's an anti disability propagandist, folks.

AlbertaCampion Fri 04-Oct-13 02:01:06

Like some other posters, I think OP is getting an unnecessarily harsh time here. She is on AIBU because she is unsure about what she should be doing, if anything, and is seeking advice- that doesn't make her an "anti-disability propagandist"!

Also, I am somewhat bemused by the sceptical line being rolled out here: that because the friend is a naice solicitor on a good income, she surely wouldn't fraudulently claim such a relatively piffling amount. Er, I don't think that's how humans work! We can be right idiots sometimes, especially when there is £ involved. Plenty of wealthy people have risked their livelihoods for less - Antony Worrall Thompson, referenced by another poster above, is just one example.

sweetmelissa Fri 04-Oct-13 02:30:03

I just wanted to say that one of my adult children has a serious condition which manifest in a variety of different symptoms and disabilities. His greatest disability however is looking "normal", always being happy and never, ever complaining, meaning that many people judge him (and us) unfairly.

I am also aghast that someone making a fraudulent claim would go all the way to a tribunal when so much evidence has to be presented.

However, as others have said the ATOL assessment will soon be coming and they will not be fooled by crutches and a limp.

MistressDeeCee Fri 04-Oct-13 06:27:24

To be honest, these 'shall I report my friend for benefits fraud' threads seem to be coming up every couple of weeks. Id say the OP wants to report her friend and Id be very surprised if she hadnt read the previous threads, all with similar titles. She knows she wants to report her friend I just think putting it in here to encourage scorn and condemnation of her friend and sit back reading it is unpleasant. I thought the same thing of the other posts. I look forward to almost the exact same post title in the next couple of weeks or so.

MistressDeeCee Fri 04-Oct-13 06:31:15

oh and if I was a true friend Id be approaching my friend letting her know I thought the risk she is taking is too huge, and has she thought of the implicaitions if she gets caught etc etc. I wouldnt be here discussing my friend with strangers. Unless of course, I wasnt a true friend to her. If the need to report is felt, then fine. But to not at least try to give her a chance to redeem herself or have a rethink? Hardly friendship.

greenfolder Fri 04-Oct-13 06:55:35

Op- I hear you. A former colleague of mine did mountain climbing, boot camp and running including jumping over benches. She also, I discovered got middle rate dla from a "back injury" years ago. I did not hesitate to contact the benefit line and suggest they have a gander at her totally open facebook profile detailing what she did in her spare time. And before I get totally flamed I utterly understand the fluctuating nature of injuries. But if your back injury still allows you to do boot camp and leap benches the benefits people need to take this into account in their assessment.

Tbh I find it hard to believe that she gets higher rate mobility. I considered applying for it a couple of years ago when I was going through a really rough patch with my joint pain/hyper mobility. Some days I could walk on, but not far, some days I could barely walk to the car without wanting to sit and cry for the pain. My gp told me that I had next to no chance of a successful claim because most days I could get around well enough to function normally, even if I was in pain from it, it wasn't severe enough to stop me from moving.

HarryStottle Fri 04-Oct-13 09:33:14

The percentage of people actually claiming benefits fraudulently is tiny; in comparison the proportion of MNetters who claim to know such a person seems quite high, judging from the frequent occurrence of these sorts of threads.

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