Was I? Uncertain .....

(100 Posts)
TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Wed 02-Oct-13 20:59:43

Just before 7 this evening, there was a knocking at my door. I went to answer it, and it was a boy I didn't recognise asking me to sponsor him "for school". I said no, I wouldn't, as I didn't know him and that I didn't think he ought to be knocking on the doors of people he didn't know. I asked him where he lived (he said, at the end of this road), I asked his name and the school he went to. I then stopped, as I felt that I was putting him in the sort of position I was trying to avoid by asking questions, iyswim. Anyway, he said his Dad was out there, well, he was, but six doors up and I couldn't see him till I went out of my gate.

I ran upsatirs to check on the three elder children coralled in the empty bath and then went out and approached the man, saying that I didn't think it suitable his child was knoocking, etc. etc. He said he wasn't alone, he was there and I said, he wasn't, he was six doors up and I didn't know he was there till I asked the child. He then, pleasantly enough, thanked me for my concern.

As I went back to my house, I saw a woman and girl on the opposite side of the road, with a similar looking bit of paper, chatting to someone.

Oh, and the sponsorship seemed to be a badly photocopied page asking for money for food and medicines for a chihuahua, with no obvious thing they were going to do.

I phoned 101 and couldn't get through and had my own children to deal with. I have (just) got through and they made a note, but said no crime had been committed and, if it happened again, I ought to try and call at the time. I replied I had but there was only so long I could abandon my own children. He said it would be passed to a relevant neighbourhood team and a note had been made in case it happened again.

Tbh, there are two things here for me: firstly, the child knocking and, secondly, the fact, esp. with the woman and child opposite and the sheet I saw, that it might be a scam; if they got £1 from every house on our street, they'd have £250-ish!

I have decided to call the school (I googled it, it exists roughly where he said and it fits (i.e. it's Catholic and they had Irish accents)).

Should I have done anything else? Did I do too much? Uncertain ......

EllaFitzgerald Wed 02-Oct-13 21:09:02

I wouldn't have thought that too many people would have sponsored him. Most people are quite alert to the possibility of a scam nowadays, aren't they? I don't think I would have called 101 unless they were knocking on the doors of elderly people.

I think you did the right thing speaking to his dad though.

bsc Wed 02-Oct-13 21:19:54

"children corralled in the empty bath"???

YABU- why on earth would they be safe there?

So slippy, and easy to get a head injury, hurt themselves climbing out.

I'm not even going to pick up on the catholic thing...

BrandiBroke Wed 02-Oct-13 21:20:24

You called the police because a child knocked on your door and asked for sponsorship? I think that's very OTT personally. Fair enough don't give him anything but I would have just said 'sorry but I don't give out money at my door, bye' and closed the door.

CaptainSweatPants Wed 02-Oct-13 21:23:15

As the police said no crime was committed
No idea shy you stuck your 3 kids in an empty bath either

CoffeeTea103 Wed 02-Oct-13 21:24:42

so a child knocked on the door and you reported him. Ridiculous, ott and ridiculous again!

Euphemia Wed 02-Oct-13 21:25:33

God help the local kids on Halloween ... confused

neunundneunzigluftballons Wed 02-Oct-13 21:28:25

'Wow nice' said the Irish catholic.

MidniteScribbler Wed 02-Oct-13 21:28:57

You called the police on a child knocking for sponsorship? Wow, overreaction of the year.

carabos Wed 02-Oct-13 21:30:48

Are we by any chance using "Catholic" and "Irish accents" as euphemisms for "gypsies" or "travellers" here? hmm

Alisvolatpropiis Wed 02-Oct-13 21:31:31


Belchica Wed 02-Oct-13 21:34:23

You called 101 for a kid asking for sponsor money at your door?

Get. A. Grip.

For the Catholic school/Irish accent comment alone YABVVU.

it fits (i.e. it's Catholic and they had Irish accents))

midwifeandmum Wed 02-Oct-13 21:35:40

Comeon ppl, she only asked for an opinion not an assassination. I agree it was over reacting but i agree that this sounds like a scam to me too. Im 2nd generation irish catholic and wasnt offended. Also she didnt say they were travellers.

MurderOfBanshees Wed 02-Oct-13 21:37:15

We actually had an email from the local neighbourhood watch/police telling us to report kids door knocking for "sponsorship" as it's a scam that's been happening a lot here. So with that in mind YANBU, if it's not a scam then no harm done, if it is then you might have helped some more vulnerable people.

ChippingInNeedsSleepAndCoffee Wed 02-Oct-13 21:38:52

I wouldn't have thought anything of it - it's what we used to do when we were kids and fundraising for school/brownies/guides/other hobbies. It is far less common these days, which is a bit of a shame really as I think it's good to get the wider community involved and his parents were with him?! They weren't holding his hand, but they were only a few doors up and presumably knew where he was & would have come running if he'd shouted.

Feminine Wed 02-Oct-13 21:43:56

I don't get the Irish accent/school bit.

Its ok to go to Catholic school, minus that accent.

Belchica Wed 02-Oct-13 21:45:24

I think noting the schools name and putting a call into the (presumably irish hmm ) headmistress the following day would have been a more reasonable reaction.

Calling 101 was a complete overreaction and unreasonable to waste police time on this.

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Wed 02-Oct-13 22:00:29

Thnks, Midwife.

I meant, the school the child said he went to was Catholic and they had an accent from Eire so I felt it made it likely he was telling the truth, so it was perhaps worth calling the school. There are lots of people originally from Ireland around here, so I am aware of different accents and I wasn't for a moment suggesting travellers.

I was worried about the elderly, Ella, as there are quite a few very elderly who live on this road and there has been a certain amount of low-level crime (things taken from front gardens, etc. etc.), enough to make them worried.

Murder, yes, that's why I called 101, as the sponsorship form didn't quite ring true. I did not waste Police time, as they felt it sufficiently significant to log it and alert the local team, in case a pattern of behaviour emerged.

He was the same age as one of my DCs, and I felt the situation was inappropriate. I certainly wouldn't allow my DCs to be knocking and asking strangers for money, whether I was there or not.

Well, Captain and bsc, the term "coralling" was unintentionally provocative. I didn't write "I made sure the children were safe by letting out the bath water in order to answer the peremptory knocking at my door, thinking it was an emergency due to the unusual time of night for a call and the way they were hammering", but I might as well have done. I made a judgement, and I believe the correct one, knowing my children, the safety measures we have in place, non-slip bathmats, etc. etc. I so did not see THAT being such an issue .....

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Wed 02-Oct-13 22:03:35

Well, I asked AIBU, and I appear to be to most of you. I would, however, rather be flamed for being too interventionalist than to have merely said "No" to a seven year-old and spent the evening wondering if he had come to harm cold-calling others in the dusk, to all intents and purposes (until I asked) parentless and alone.

Alisvolatpropiis Wed 02-Oct-13 22:03:45

To be fair OP it did read like you had put your children in the empty bath grin

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Wed 02-Oct-13 22:08:22

<Mutter mutter>, yeah because that's where they live when they're not at school, Alis, it's cheaper than buying a cage .....

Alisvolatpropiis Wed 02-Oct-13 22:09:41

I'm going to write that down in my tips and hints book for when I have kids op grin

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Wed 02-Oct-13 22:11:52

:D just one of my many, useful suggestions. They're just as happy under an up-turned baby bath ......

Do I need to say "joke"? Grrr ...

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Wed 02-Oct-13 22:19:26

Oh, and I know it's "cor R alling", but it's hard to type well and proof read easily on a phone when tired.

gordyslovesheep Wed 02-Oct-13 22:20:45

I think you massively over reacted to be fair

ChippingInNeedsSleepAndCoffee Wed 02-Oct-13 22:26:55

Well, I asked AIBU, and I appear to be to most of you. I would, however, rather be flamed for being too interventionalist than to have merely said "No" to a seven year-old and spent the evening wondering if he had come to harm cold-calling others in the dusk, to all intents and purposes (until I asked) parentless and alone

Well, it wasn't either 'call 101' & the school OR ^^ that was it? hmm

You could have said 'No thank you. Where are your parents?' Then watched while he went to them smile hmm

wheretoyougonow Wed 02-Oct-13 22:27:42

I'm now laughing because I read it as though you had put three children in am empty bath for safety. I couldn't work out how this would contain them!

I think your getting a hard time. Just call the school he said tomorrow and let them know. I'm sure they wouldn't want to encourage door to door knocking if it's genuine. I'd it's not you will alert them to a child that might need some help.

Off to see if I can contain a six year old in the bath!

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Wed 02-Oct-13 22:33:26

Yes, I could have, Chipping. Still not convinced about the whole sponsorship thing, though, and it was the combination of the two which made me hmm.

Ok, Gordys.

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Wed 02-Oct-13 22:40:01

Whereto, thank goodness YOU laughed, I was beginning to mentally recast myself as the Child Catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!! Yup, I'm going to do exactly as you suggested! <Wanders off feeling not such a total outcast>

You've done nothing wrong

It sounds like a big scam and I'd have called 101 if they'd been collecting for a "chihuahua" too.

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Wed 02-Oct-13 22:54:10

Laurie thank-you! Hoping for elucidation from the school tomorrow.

YANBU. A friend and I were approached in a restaurant by a young lad collecting money. When I asked for ID he and his (adult, female) companion legged it.

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Wed 02-Oct-13 23:04:27

Sunshine <gently creeping out from under my rock>.

Heartbrokenmum73 Wed 02-Oct-13 23:26:00

My own DD knocked on a few doors on our road about 18 months ago (when she was 10), with a clearly printed form from school about a sponsored bounce she and her siblings were doing. People were more than happy to sponsor the three of them and said how lovely and polite she was. I told her NOT to ask for the money up front (because as far as I'm concerned that's now how it works) but some people handed it over anyway. Tbh I didn't think anything of it at the time - I have three kids with very few family to sponsor them and DD was tired of taking back an almost empty form each year.

I would have been amazed if anyone had called the police over it though.

Tweasels Wed 02-Oct-13 23:29:42

Have I misread or did you say they were collecting money for medicine for a chihuahua?

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Wed 02-Oct-13 23:31:06

My own DD knocked on a few doors on our road about 18 months ago (when she was 10), with a clearly printed form from school about a sponsored bounce she and her siblings were doing.

The form wasn't anything like this ^^. You obviously also had contact with the people they asked.

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Wed 02-Oct-13 23:32:36

No, Tweasels, that's what I said ....... Thanks for reading the op grin .....

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Wed 02-Oct-13 23:34:49

Sorry, Heartbroken, came across as more aggressive than I meant it. I do sponsor the children opposite, when they knock and ask, but the scenario I encountered was odd, I believe.

Heartbrokenmum73 Wed 02-Oct-13 23:37:30

Sorry back at you too OP - I wasn't saying what you did was wrong! It just never occurred to me that it might be seen that way when I sent DD merrily on her way knocking doors.

That was why I mentioned the form from school - hopefully DD would have seemed above board to those she spoke to.

And were they really collecting for a chihuahua? DD was collecting for new playground equipment!

kali110 Wed 02-Oct-13 23:42:22

Not bu for wondering if it was a scam, however Think ywbu for saying that the child was too young to be out especially since the dad was there, and its not for you too say if they were too you, not your child.
Also think ywbu for calling the police before you had even spoken to the school.

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Wed 02-Oct-13 23:42:33

Look, I definitely read "medicines and food for a chihuahua" and the little boy said "for school". If for no other reason, I have to call the school tomorrow!!!!!! You know, I'd love to be wrong and then have to blame tiredness from DC4 (3 months)......

Tweasels Wed 02-Oct-13 23:42:55

I wouldn't have rang 101 or trapped the children in an empty bath and the Irish Catholic thing sounded a bit hmm

However, all those things aside, I don't think I would sponsor my own children in those circumstances. Fucking chihuahua medicine?? So on that basis YANBU.

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Wed 02-Oct-13 23:45:45

When I first tried to call the Police, Kali they were still going up and down the road and, had it been a known scam, they would have been able to deal with it. It was the non-emergency number. I get that different people allow their children different freedoms ....

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Wed 02-Oct-13 23:48:58

I've given up bath-trapping, I had no idea it was so looked down on, I've tried to work on my phrasing to be less tactless and I shall never EVER dial the Police again .......

SummerRain Wed 02-Oct-13 23:54:28

It's a fairly common scam here in Ireland and has been for decades. Mostly because the Irish tend to give money to any urchin with a sponsorship card that knocks so it's a bloody lucrative scam.

And fgs, 95% of the Irish population is Catholic (or lapsed catholic) so it's a perfectly reasonable link to make.

Just don't refer to it as Éire OP, if you're speaking English use the English name for it: Ireland. Má tá tú ag labhairt Gaeilge go bhfuil sé ar a dtugtar Éire.

You don't call Germany Deutschland or Spain España if you're speaking in English do you?

DaleyBump Thu 03-Oct-13 00:06:26

I'm only marking place to see what the school say!

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Thu 03-Oct-13 00:07:01

Summer thank-you for the information. I was trying, fwiw, to forestall cries of "Aren't you make generalisations/Couldn't they be from Northern Ireland?" as I recognised that they weren't and thought I would offend if I said "Southern Ireland" (as that isn't actually its name) and confuse if I said "Ireland". The road to hell is paved, etc. etc.

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Thu 03-Oct-13 00:07:55

DaleyBump grin

SummerRain Thu 03-Oct-13 00:24:27

It's the Republic of Ireland, it's the name of the country and we're quite proud of the first bit so you can't go wrong using it wink

You've not being having a successful night though so I'm going to stop winding you up now grin

farewellfarewell Thu 03-Oct-13 00:25:30

Erm, yes southern Ireland would have been marginally more offensive than Éire op..............

MangoTiramisu Thu 03-Oct-13 00:34:27


i.e. it's Catholic and they had Irish accents - obviously GUILTY!!!

It was a kid asking for a bit of sponsorship. It wasn't someone wearing a balaclava asking for the keys to your car. I think the police have bigger fish to fry and you are wasting valuable resources TBH. If it was me and I didn't like what I saw I would have just told them to bugger off. You remind me of the neighbour I used to have that used to knock on my door and tell me that I had broken the law again with the way my car was parked outside my house.

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Thu 03-Oct-13 00:34:37

If only you knew my surname in RL, Summer and Farewell ....

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Thu 03-Oct-13 00:35:35

Oh, and I refer you again to the tiredness inducing DC4 ........

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Thu 03-Oct-13 00:41:29

Mango felt I dealt with that, er, mis-understanding of my op earlier. Even Summer whom I appear to have (again unintentionally) riled (yes, Summer, not my most successful evening) could see what I meant with the Catholic school sttement. Well, the Police, when I asked them directly, did not say I had done the wrong thing in calling. No, no, I am not that sort of neighbour but my good intentions towards that child seem to be very well hidden on this thread.

Eire??? grin

TalkativeJim Thu 03-Oct-13 00:47:55

If I saw a poorly Catholic chihuahua in a balaclava trying to break into my car, I'd probably hurl my kids into an empty bath too OP.

Don't feel bad.

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Thu 03-Oct-13 00:49:42

Ok, Walter, I am sooooo not going to attempt to answer that (as I will get it wrong .....).

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Thu 03-Oct-13 00:51:26

Thanks, Talkative, it gets you like that, sometimes.

I just think it's funny, nobody says that grin

*making light of it, OP. It's really not a big deal. As an Irish catholic, I knew what you meant wink

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Thu 03-Oct-13 00:59:16

Ah, ha, Walter! At least I didn't call it the Emerald Isle ...... grin. What is the equivalent mis-nomer for the UK? Why is Eire funny/anachronistic/whatever?

StElmo Thu 03-Oct-13 04:04:23

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Sockywockydoodah Thu 03-Oct-13 04:45:19

StElmo there's REALLY no need for that. OP has taken all the YABUs in good spirit. No need to trample in late calling names and generally being unpleasant.

MammaTJ Thu 03-Oct-13 05:48:44

Not liking the 'jokes' about leaving kids in the bath very much.

It may be because I had a safeguarding children session yesterday though and they always upset me.

Do you people who are finding it funny realise that the bath is where poor Victoria Climbie lived?

fuzzpig Thu 03-Oct-13 06:57:35

I don't think YWBU really. If it's all innocent then nothing will come of you making a brief phonecall, it's not like the police are going to hammer down the door of an innocent child, no harm done <shrug> And if it was something weird/dodgy then you've done your bit.

Also WTF who collects money for a chihuahua hmm I don't see how that could be related to school (did he actually say it was school, or a club or something?)... and I thought the idea of sponsorship as opposed to just normal collecting money for charity, was that the sponsored child actually does something for the money.

It sounds quite odd to me TBH, and as others have said the door to door knocking can be a common scam. So maybe you are right - the school will hopefully be able to tell you.

r3d3 Thu 03-Oct-13 07:07:07

Ywnbu; what fuzzpig said.

NicknameIncomplete Thu 03-Oct-13 07:26:29

YWNBU this is a well known scam. Using children would make it easier as more people are probably more likely to give money to a child collecting for a school rather than an adult collecting for something else.

My dds school tell us to only ask family & friends when doing sponsors & never to go knocking on other peoples doors.

YouTheCat Thu 03-Oct-13 07:35:51

If someone came knocking on my door asking me to sponsor them to raise funds for a chihuahua I think I'd be pretty dubious too, no matter what their accent was.

Are these children in training to work as doorsteppers for charities? grin

jellyandcake Thu 03-Oct-13 07:41:05

All that's needed is for someone to pop up demanding "but WHY didn't you donate to the poorly chihuahua? Why do you hate animals so much??" and the villification of the OP will be complete as a child-abusing, chihuahua-murdering, Catholic-persecuting, police-distracting racist and every single ounce of offence will have been extracted from her post.

fortyplus Thu 03-Oct-13 07:48:52

Those of you who think the op is BU - if you take the situation at face value then yes of course. However using a child to knock at the door is a well known technique used by distraction burglars preying on elderly vulnerable people. So no I don't think there was a child protection issue, but definitely not unreasonable to call 101 - and where I live the Police would've sent a car to check up them. The scum who carry out doorstep crime are often known to them already. No judgement on race, religion or accent - have they got form for preying on little old ladies.

Oh for goodness sake.

You had a knock on the door (you did forget to say you were bathing your children at the time and I too thought that you put your fully clothed children in a dry bath to keep them safe). A child asked you to sponsor them for some such school activity. Said child had an Irish access and goes to a Catholic school and you couldn't see his parent/guardian at the time so you phoned the non-emergency number 101 to report it? Did I get that right?

I think you completely overreacted. I would, however, rather be flamed for being too interventionalist - how were you being interventionalist? You were being over the top, panicking but where is the intervention?

Do you have children knocking on Halloween trick or treating????

I've had at least 10 children in the past week knock on my door asking for sponsorship for something in their school but I just say no and close the door.

YABVU, I think.

All that's needed is for someone to pop up demanding "but WHY didn't you donate to the poorly chihuahua? Why do you hate animals so much??" and the villification of the OP will be complete as a child-abusing, chihuahua-murdering, Catholic-persecuting, police-distracting racist and every single ounce of offence will have been extracted from her post.

^ hus

Bollocks. I meant 'this'.

This thread is the best example of deliberate misunderstanding and nitpicking I've ever seen.

SummerRain Thu 03-Oct-13 09:27:16

Jelly, but won't anyone think of the poor sick chihuahua? [wrings hands] He's the real victim in all this sad


Two, I'm not riled... The Eire thing is just a pet peeve of mine, it's simply not the name of the country unless you're speaking as gaeilge but its so common among the British.

I certainly don't think you were wrong to be concerned about the situation, it sounds suspicious and it's a common enough scam that even without the chihuahua involvement I'd have been a bit hmm too.

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Thu 03-Oct-13 12:36:48

I've only just got back in after RL this morning, so I will have to respond later to individuals but thank-you for all most of your comments really, St. Elmo?!!.

I have called the school and the Headteacher is to call me back as he is out. However, the school has a child corresponding to the name and description I gave, though older than he claimed (tbh, I said I wasn't expecting them to confirm or deny that, so don't start at me because they did); they do not currently have any sponsored events running (chihuahuas or chincillas or anything) and they were also concerned enough to want the HT to return my call and speak to me personally. I left my name, address and number and I also told them of my conversation with 101 (and if she thought I over-reacted, she was polite enough not to say!!!).

To be continued ........

Lickitysplit Thu 03-Oct-13 12:43:10


SummerRain Thu 03-Oct-13 12:46:29

I'd imagine they'd be quite concerned to think the school's name is being used to scam money from people and fund nefarious, underground, chihuahua drug smuggling rings

It all sounds dodgy alright and I think you were justified to be suspicious, it's all very well saying 'But you could just say no' but a lot of elderly or vulnerable people would be taken in by this and it's often the case that if they find an easy target they'll go back again and again with more 'sponsorship' requests.

Rhino71 Thu 03-Oct-13 12:48:03

I think the OP's had a pretty unfair mauling on this thread but has taken it well and thankfully the majority of it has been fairly light-hearted, plus we have been given an update.

Personally I think YWNBU - It sounded pretty dubious from the word go.

runningonwillpower Thu 03-Oct-13 12:49:42

I would probably have given him £1 but failing that, 'clear off sonny' would suffice.

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Thu 03-Oct-13 12:52:03

Update: the Deputy Head has just called and hs thanked me profusely (though not excessively) for caring enough to call them. After some investigation that end, they are going to look into the matter further (and the subtext conveyed was family poverty rather than scamming for worse ends) and they are going to see how they can help.

ZiaMaria Thu 03-Oct-13 12:54:35

I think you were right to notify the police actually. If they aren't told, they can't know, and then you get stories in your local paper about how someone has been going rounds and conning money out of gullible old folk...and the stories all end with a request form the police to be nitified if anyone is suspicious...

SummerRain Thu 03-Oct-13 12:56:10

Aw, that's brilliant Two... good for the school tackling this with an understanding approach and wanting to help instead of punish.

Not saying it's right what the family are doing but desperation can make you do some pretty stupid things and at least no-one was hurt.

MurderOfBanshees Thu 03-Oct-13 12:57:20

Looks like you might actually have helped the kid then, that's good.

LazyGaga Thu 03-Oct-13 12:58:02

"If I saw a poorly Catholic chihuahua in a balaclava trying to break into my car, I'd probably hurl my kids into an empty bath too OP." TalkativeJim

This made me honk like a goose.

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Thu 03-Oct-13 13:00:05

Summer, you crack me up (a couple of posts back) I shall just be very careful how I speak about your heritage in future grin

Thank-you to those who defended me: I have to confess to being a bit [humm] at some responses initially, but I have read enough AIBU to have known what I was getting into and serves me right for seeking validation through an anonymous online forum!.

I wish to take this opportunity to assure you all that I love children, give copiously to non-chihuahua based charities and do not usually leave my children in the bath .....

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Thu 03-Oct-13 13:01:27

Summer and Murder, yes, indeed (especially as a nearby city is, once again, in the news adversely for a child protection issue).

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Thu 03-Oct-13 13:02:06

Lazy, I couldn't honk as loudly as I would have liked, due to a sleeping baby!!

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Thu 03-Oct-13 13:03:17

Thanks Zia and Rhino, Sockywocky, R3D3 ....

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Thu 03-Oct-13 13:07:24

.... Fuzzpig, Nickname, Youthecat, Fortyplus ....

Jellyandcake and Southern I couldn't have put it better myself but felt it wasn't really my place to do so!

SeaSickSal Thu 03-Oct-13 13:07:32

It couldn't have been food and medicine to send to the people of Chihuahua, Mexico could it?

Especially with them being Catholics with Catholic accents & everything?

MrRected Thu 03-Oct-13 13:07:39

Catholics with Irish accents shock

SeaSickSal Thu 03-Oct-13 13:08:37

The Catholic Chihuahua is apparently so poorly it can no longer remember if it was holding a sub machine gun on bloody Sunday.

MrsCampbellBlack Thu 03-Oct-13 13:08:59

I think you did the right thing and have been very calm on this thread smile

And to the person who mentioned child protection - well by speaking to the school, perhaps this family will get the help it maybe needs.

TheFabulousIdiot Thu 03-Oct-13 13:10:29

YABU and a bit weird.

Just say no thank you and politely shut the door. Why all the questions and rushing about and calling the police! Totally over the top.

SummerRain Thu 03-Oct-13 13:10:42

What's a catholic accent? I'm imagining some sort of mixture of Polish, Italian and leprechaun Irish grin

BadSeedsAddict Thu 03-Oct-13 13:12:11

Think you were right to be concerned. Definitely not unreasonable. Poor family if that is the case hmm also, making jokes about corralling kids in the bath is not the same as making light of child abuse/neglect! If that wasn't obvious smile

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Thu 03-Oct-13 13:13:40

MammaTJ I entirely understand how bath jokes are unfunny in the context you describe. Of course, I remember poor Victoria Climbie, but I didn't remember the role of the bath in her story. I made a flippant comment which I never imagined would take on a life of its own. I hope you realise I was caring about this boy's safety, not least as recent horrid cases have had too many instances of people seeing something going on and not giving enough of a damn to make a call. Well, I was worried, I stuck my neck out and on this occasion I seem to have made the right call and it sounds like his family might get some more help.

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Thu 03-Oct-13 13:15:00

Badseeds what I think is obvious and what others think, seems to be poles apart so I shall stop making jokes on AIBU.

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos Thu 03-Oct-13 13:20:33

SeaSickSal I hope that first comment is a joke but I seem to have a different sense of humour to others on here.

MrRected a couple of pages have been devoted to this, so do read them. I know lots of Catholics with a wide variety of accents, but see the context.

Summer stop stirring they need no help!

Fabulous not so sure you have read the thread, either ......

MrsCampbellBlack I tried and 4DCs is a great help on this occasion, as my patience is often tested.

Rhino71 Thu 03-Oct-13 13:42:55

Fabulous - clearly not read the thread

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