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to be pissed off because people keep telling me that my baby is cold.

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froken Mon 30-Sep-13 10:55:57

Ds is 9 months old. He hates wearing hats/socks and bibs. I have tried to dress him in tights or babygrows, he gets his feet out of the babygrows and he becomes hysterical when he tries to take the tights off and they get stuck.

Today it is 8 degree. Ds is wearing thermal underwear, clothes and a snow suit designed to be sufficient down to -30. ( if anything I'm worried he is too hot) his little bare feet and hands are visible and he has no hat.

7 people have stopped me and told me I should have socks/a hat.

Why are some people such busybodies? I feel terrible every time someone gives me the my poorbaby is freezing lecture. It makes me feel like we should stay at home but ds loves the groups we go to and gets bored easily at home.

Aibu to tell them to mind their own business?

FannyFifer Mon 30-Sep-13 10:58:35

What are u going to do about his bare feet when it is actually freezing though, u need to start encouraging to wear socks etc.

Pascha Mon 30-Sep-13 10:59:11

Oh yes. DS2 is a sock and hat refuser too. Luckily its still quite warm here but I don't know how he is going to like it when it gets a bit colder. He's not even keen on footmuffs on the pushchair.

I've just ordered tights for winter but I have no idea whether he will be ok with them or not.

CoffeeTea103 Mon 30-Sep-13 11:00:39

When it gets really cold will you be ok with his hands and feet uncovered? People are just concerned. Think you need to worry about what you will do when winter is here rather than what people are saying.

AnyFucker Mon 30-Sep-13 11:02:07

If different people "keep telling you" then they probably have a point.

BrokenSunglasses Mon 30-Sep-13 11:03:10

YANBU. You do what you think is right for your baby.

When my ds (now 14) was a baby, he hated socks, and he also hated sitting facing me in his pushchair. There seemed to be a lot of talk at the time about how important parent facing pushchairs were, so I persevered for ages, made myself look like a complete knob with all my singing and inane chatter in an attempt to stop him from whinging as we went down the street. It didn't work, and as soon as I decided to fuck what other people might think, I turned the chair around and had a baby that was happy to sit in the pushchair.

Sometimes you just have to do what you think is best and ignore other people.

If you want to try and keep socks on though, you could use those little leather shoes just for when you're out to keep socks on.

LeaveTheBastid Mon 30-Sep-13 11:03:59

Well let's be fair, if you walked past a mum pushing a baby down a snowy street with nothing covering their head, hands or feet, you'd probably have a face like a cats bum hole. I know I would. I'd also know that babies sometimes hate things on their feet, but I think it's your responsibility to encourage him to wear them as much as possible, or find clothes he can't wriggle out of. My hands and toes are always freezing in winter and often hurt with the cold even with gloves on, can't imagine how a small baby would feel.

GangstersLoveToDance Mon 30-Sep-13 11:04:00

If you want complete honesty, I would probably don my judgy knickers at seeing a baby out with bare feet unless in the middle of summer.

Bare hands or head I understand - with the best will ever you can't prevent a 9 month old from pulling off hat or gloves.

You can however buy longer socks that they find more difficult to take off. Or shoes and socks. Or use a cosy toes so that although they may be bare underneath they're not bare to the elements.

Like the pp said, it's not going to be 8 degrees for long. Besides that, pretty soon you'll have a toddler that wants to be out down to stand/toddle. You have to get them used to socks sooner or later.

I had that in Bulgaria when DS was a baby. He refused to wear a hat and an old Bulgarian woman stopped me and told me off. So I put the hat on him. He took it off. I put it on. He took it off. She got the message! Without either of us speaking the other's language. It was quite funny.

Not sure what to advise about how you get your DS used to socks etc though.

mawbroon Mon 30-Sep-13 11:05:55

DS1 absolutely refused gloves, so I bought a winter coat that was a bit big so that at least his hands were covered by the sleeves.

Get a cozytoes thingy for his buggy. Then nobody will be able to see if he has bare feet and he won't be able to kick it off.

I've spoken to several mums of sock/shoe refusniks and the level of vitriol they have experienced from random strangers is peculiar (verging on the demented).

ICameOnTheJitney Mon 30-Sep-13 11:08:09

Get one of those bags they sit in, in the pram....he can't go about with bare feet now!

iwantanafternoonnap Mon 30-Sep-13 11:08:47

I am sure that when it is actually fecking freezing he will learn to keep the socks otherwise you'll have to go through a few screaming sessions. Its hardly baltic out there right now and my son is refusing to wear long trousers and takes his jumper off as soon as he gets to nursery. At home he runs around outside in shorts, t-shirt and no shoes and he is not dead yet!!

You can get sock things so that they can't pull the socks off though. I hate wearing socks unless its freezing so he has my sympathies as do you xxxx

Alibabaandthe40nappies Mon 30-Sep-13 11:08:57

How are his feet not within the snowsuit?

It is difficult but you have to persevere with the socks. What about trousers with feet?

You're in Sweden aren't you? He is going to be really cold if you don't persuade him. Have you tried those moccasin/sock things?

Dobbiesmum Mon 30-Sep-13 11:09:19

Tights. That's what you need for sock refusers in cold weather! I had one of them and he wore tights under his pants. Anyone who can come up with a sure fire way of keeping a hat on a reluctant head could make a fortune, short of using double sided tape it looks like another year of buying a job lot of cheap hats in this house!
People just worry about children, it seems to be a biological thing. YABabitU to be pissed off as it's generally good with the best of intentions.

livinginwonderland Mon 30-Sep-13 11:13:17

You'll need to have his feet covered in winter, though. It's fine while it's fairly warm but my feet are getting cold without socks lately, so it can't be fun for a baby. Get one of those covers/bags things that you can put in the buggy so he's inside it, iykwim. That way, he can have bare feet but he's not exposed. Or, socks and shoes that he can't undo or kick off - winter boots, maybe?

TheRobberBride Mon 30-Sep-13 11:16:03

TBH I think he should have something on his feet. There is no need for a snow suit at 8 degrees (what's wrong with a jacket?) but his feet will be cold if they're bare. He might not like wearing socks but as his parent this is something you will have to be firm about. When there's snow on the ground, you're not honesty going to take him out with nothing on his feet are you?

Iwaswatchingthat Mon 30-Sep-13 11:19:19

Have you tried 'sock ons'?

My friend found them ace for her sock removing baby.

froken Mon 30-Sep-13 11:19:23

My plan is to hope ds grows out or it and try to to make him hate hats/socks even more by putting tights or hats that he can't pull off on him.

He crawled early and we have wooden floors so he didn't wear socks at home so I think maybe that is partly why he hates them.

I feel his hands/feet regularly and they feel warm. I have constantly warm hands and feet I think he takes after me, I wear sandals until it snows.

We live in a very cold country so our cosytoes is a bit heavy duty for autumn but maybe I need to start using it. People will probably come up and tell me he is too hot instead!

I'm not sure why it is important to have socks
n if he is very warmly dressed and his feet don't actually feel cold.

WestieMamma Mon 30-Sep-13 11:21:27

How strange. They don't really need socks in their åkpåse. My DS doesn't even have a coat on yet because he's roasting.

Dobbiesmum Mon 30-Sep-13 11:24:00

We have wooden floors and go barefoot all the time too, mind you we're in the north of England rather than a very cold country! I think the issue is that babies feet and hands can get very cold very quickly, like, within minutes.
I never found Sock-Ons to be particularly useful, DS would keep fratching at them to get them off which is why I bought some plain tights instead. He still goes barefoot now he's much older but he stopped refusing socks fairly quickly when her realised that he was on a hiding to nothing!

redexpat Mon 30-Sep-13 11:24:39

Mine was the same with socks - always had hot sweaty feet. He grew out of it and I started using dungarees with feet attached.

PiratePanda Mon 30-Sep-13 11:28:38

Look, my DS was/is a glove and hat refuser and socks fel straight off, but extremities get frost bitten quite quickly and no it's not OK to have them exposed in really cold weather.

Feet: the only thing that works is tights. You just have to put up with the crying. My DS screams blue bloody murder when he has to be in a seatbelt in pram or car, every single time. There's just no option; he has to go in straps and we have to put up with it.

Head: our solution was hooded jackets and coats, sometimes both at once, rather than hats.

Hands: this is the hardest. Instead iof a useless padded suit, try a thick pram footmuff or sleeping bag that zips up to the chest. They can always tuck their hands in if they get cold.

Yes, I'd have a catsbum face too if I saw you out like that, and I have a very wilful child and I'm not a very judgey person generally.

WetGrass Mon 30-Sep-13 11:29:22

I am a sock refusenik.

Bare feet -> cosy totes does me for all seasons. Now my DC wear shoes, I don't even try to insist on socks.

bundaberg Mon 30-Sep-13 11:29:36

i had a sock and shoe refuser and tbh i just used to use tights and if he got cross taht was just tough luck!

he's a baby, he doesn;t know why he needs to wear them and is unlikely to suddenly "learn" to want to keep them on.
you're the adult, you make the decisions and if he needs something on his feet then use something he can't get off.

froken Mon 30-Sep-13 11:30:03

The problem with tights is he becomes hysterical, I think he believes someone has stolen his feet, he loves to play with/suck his feet.

I have seen parents be told off on the train for having a crying child "pick your dc up all they need is some love" type comments. I'm not sure what would be a worse "crime" a baby with cold feet or a hysterical baby.

He will wear moccasins but only if he is walking about ( so he doesn't notice his hidden feet) and he will wear a hat if I put it on whilst he is sleeping, maybe I can just leave the hat on all the time!

I bought sock-ons for my DS. On the first outing he removed and jettisoned one, never to be seen again.

BumgrapesofWrath Mon 30-Sep-13 11:31:57

YANBU.

I believe that if their feet were cold, they'd cry.

IdaClair Mon 30-Sep-13 11:40:21

I can't keep track of baby socks. I buy them, they fall off, get taken off, and just lost. I went on the school run this morning and couldn't get a single pair. I have no idea how people keep track of them. DC is 1yo and only just out of wearing sleepsuits/onsies all day with feet in them. But has no shoes as is not big enough to walk. I don't have a pram so there is no way of using a blanket or bag thing to cover DC, and all the snowsuits and coats are way too bulky and warm even for deepest winter, the baby would overheat in those. I think it's going to need to be tights for us.

Dobbiesmum Mon 30-Sep-13 11:41:12

"I think he believes someone has stolen his feet"
It's DS all over again!! He's 12 yo and still plays with his bloody toes now...
Would he be distracted by brightly coloured ones like these?
www.slugsandsnails.ie
Or something like this if you can find similar for older babies:
www.jojomamanbebe.co.uk/sp+sock-and-wrist-rattle-set-in-baby-toys+b6557
Failing that I think you might have to just hope that the hysterics subside as he gets used to it.

vj32 Mon 30-Sep-13 11:41:13

Last Jan DS was 19 months. He wouldn't keep socks or shoes on unless he was actually walking at the time. So I bought a cosy toes for the pushchair. I think we used it two or three times before he managed to rip it - along where the zip was because of all his kicking to get it off.

So yes, last year when there was about 5 inches of snow on the ground DS was out for about five minutes without any shoes or socks on. And quite a few more times that winter when it wasn't snowing. If his feet actually got cold, he would tolerate socks. But until then, he thought the process of removing them and me putting them back on was a fun game to play. So I stopped playing. His feet did sometimes get cold, but he worked out what socks were for!

Not sure I would do that with a younger child, but yes I got tired of the tutting and the comments.

FrigginRexManningDay Mon 30-Sep-13 11:48:35

I used to put dds tights on ds as he would take off any type of socks. At first he was a bit frustrated by not being able to take them off but he quickly got used to them when he realised I wasn't going to take them off.

SmokedMackerel Mon 30-Sep-13 11:48:38

I don't live in the UK - I find here people are much more likely to say something, tell strangers off, grab a child's feet to see if they are cold etc. I don't think anyone would say anything in the UK.

I would just put the foot warmer on the buggy, and he can have bare legs inside - I'd go for a footwarmer over a snowsuit any day. Dd used to often kick off her socks inside hers, but she was always nice and warm, and nobody could see her feet, so I didn't get any hassle.

MollyBear Mon 30-Sep-13 11:52:29

It can be really hard, and soul destroying when you are judged so harshly for just doing your best. As far as I can see, you are trying to think of a solution.

My dd was the same. Never tolerated anything at all on her feet, and would not have them covered in any way. No socks, even with sock-ons or pram shoes. Blankets were kicked off. Cosy toes were wriggled out of, or she would put her feet up on the bumper bar in the rain/snow/cold.

I cried more than once coming home from shopping, having been told off by various others shoppers for not looking after my baby properly. She had warm clothes, the best of everything, but would not wear foot coverings or gloves. The lowest point was when I had to keep brushing the snow off her feet (out on top of the bumper bar again), whilst getting death stares from everyone around me. It was horrible, and the only solution was to not go out (not always possible).

Keep trying, and do your best. It is all you can do.

FWIW, once dd was walking, and had proper shoes, she was happy to keep them (and socks!) on.

Igloofornow Mon 30-Sep-13 11:56:40

I think if he is 'refusing' and 'bored at home' at 9 months you are going to have your hands full a spoiled brat if you let him dictate what he wears.

Dobbiesmum Mon 30-Sep-13 12:00:39

The next time you get comments you could always hand them a pair of socks and tell them to try and get him to keep them on!

froken Mon 30-Sep-13 12:02:50

I am a bit of a wimp about crying, ds hardly ever cries so I am not used to him being upset, having tights on is about the most traumatic thing that has happened to him ( he has had worse things happen to him but he didn't cry) maybe I just need to be braver about him crying.

He will wear shoes when walking so maybe I will just get him to walk everywhere when it is snowy.

His relationship with his feet is very cute, he has a growbag at night time and when I release him in the morning he is so happy to see his feet.

I don't think bright/fun socks will help, I think he might be more interested in tge socks.

Maybe I can take him out in his growbag!

labelwriter Mon 30-Sep-13 12:03:13

www.raindrops.co.uk/Catalogue/Childrens-Footwear/Baby-Booties/AB-320021-Polar-Paws we used these and were a life saver. DD1 hated socks!

froken Mon 30-Sep-13 12:03:39

I am a bit of a wimp about crying, ds hardly ever cries so I am not used to him being upset, having tights on is about the most traumatic thing that has happened to him ( he has had worse things happen to him but he didn't cry) maybe I just need to be braver about him crying.

He will wear shoes when walking so maybe I will just get him to walk everywhere when it is snowy.

His relationship with his feet is very cute, he has a growbag at night time and when I release him in the morning he is so happy to see his feet.

I don't think bright/fun socks will help, I think he might be more interested in tge socks.

Maybe I can take him out in his growbag!

Dobbiesmum Mon 30-Sep-13 12:06:55

You can get grobags for 5 point harnesses I think, I'm sure I've seen them around.

AnyFucker Mon 30-Sep-13 12:07:49

I am a bit of a wimp about crying

There is your problem. If you give in every time he objects to not getting his own way, this is just the start of a very difficult few years, sorry.

Let him cry and tantrum all he likes (has fond memories of dragging a screaming child sitting down on the end of her reins along the aisles at Morrison's).

Sure, I got some "looks" but also some approving ones, particularly from the older generation.

froken Mon 30-Sep-13 12:11:20

labelwriter those look really fantastic! At the moment he just has little leather shoes and they are no good in the rain. I don't think ds will keep them on for long but they will be great for trips to the park!

Igloofornow Mon 30-Sep-13 12:13:09

Nod and smile. I remember walking around a supermarket at 41+ weeks pregnant, with a 22 month old in a trolley and a 4 year old hanging on to my leg screaming because he couldn't get a magazine, I don't care what others think all that bothers me is that my DC are safe, well and they do as they are told.

This comes from growing up with a terribly spoiled brother, parents gave into everything. He is now a horrible adult. I guess I can be a little tough at times.

Alibabaandthe40nappies Mon 30-Sep-13 12:15:00

Yep I agree with AF. You are setting yourself up for a hideous few years if he gets the idea that he can get his own way just by throwing a bit of a tantrum.

froken Mon 30-Sep-13 12:23:50

I don't think I do give in to everything, ds goes to sleep at 6, if he refuses his dinner he doesn't get another choice. I won't let him take toys from other babies evenif they don't mind.

They are his feet and if he wants them to have no sockson his feet then I don't see why I need to fight with him about it.

It isn't cold enough for gloves and I can't see why feet and hands are so different.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo Mon 30-Sep-13 12:25:04

If you're happy he's warm enough just keep the sock on the hood of the pushchair and wave them at anyone who comments saying "Tell me about it!". They'll leave you alone then. I found the best way to get hats on my two was wear one myself and they see it as normal. Socks are a tricky one though for which the only solution for me was tights but I see you've tried that.

IceBeing Mon 30-Sep-13 12:29:46

froken you could always ask people how they can tell his feet are cold by looking at them, and invite them to test for themselves whether they actually are or not?

I had a superheated baby. She wanted nothing but nappy on in the summer months and won't really tolerate much in the way of outerwear without over heating even in winter. People are always telling me she is cold...now at least I can ask her and she always says 'no I am warm' which helps diffuse the busy bodies.

Newsflash for busy bodies! ALL BABIES ARE DIFFERENT.

They have a point froken.

Should not be a problem to find snowsuits with feet for babies. Or tights with feet. Just google ullunderkläder barn/baby, and find places like http://www.ullklader.se/product.html/strumpbyxa-i-ull?category_id=6 where you can find strumpbyxa for barn.

They have a point froken.

Should not be a problem to find snowsuits with feet for babies. Or tights with feet. Just google ullunderkläder barn/baby, and find places like www.ullklader.se/product.html/strumpbyxa-i-ull?category_id=6 where you can find strumpbyxa for barn.

for the sake of the link

"They are his feet and if he wants them to have no sockson his feet then I don't see why I need to fight with him about it."

He does not know the link between being cold and not being cold if he is wearing socks, though!

nevergoogle Mon 30-Sep-13 12:36:15

My mum had to cut the feet off my babygrows when I was a baby.
I screamed and fussed and pulled at my feet until she did.

...and I turned out fine.

Wibble confused

NoComet Mon 30-Sep-13 12:39:27

DD1 had hysterics if you put her in a snowsuit, whinged if you put her in a vest and removed, hats, gloves and socks.

The latter two items when straight in her mouth to ensure you couldn't put them back on.

DD2 wasn't much better.

If I saw you in the street I'd just smile!

Lastofthepodpeople Mon 30-Sep-13 12:44:11

Ha! I've often looked at babies all bundled up in suits, and hats and blankets and thought they must be roasting. Would never say anything though. People do what they think is best.

Last winter, DS was two and the only way of keeping him in a coat would be if I had a straitjacket. He used to physically fight me putting it on and as soon as it was on, he ripped it off. I couldn't physically keep it on unless he wanted to. I got a lot of cats bum looks, but you know what? When he was really cold, he let me put it on and kept it on. Babies and toddlers aren't as unaware of the connection between clothes and warmth as people might think.

caramelwaffle Mon 30-Sep-13 12:45:09

froken

The difference is frostbite.

At best, some localised permanent skin damage, at worst, having his toes or feet cut off to prevent poisonous gangrene travelling around his body.

You say you are already in a colder place and we are heading into winter.

you know what, your job as a parent is to do the thing your DC need, not what they want. Have no idea whether your DS needs socks right now, but wanted to say you are going to have to woman up a little bit and accept you will need to do things he doesn't want in his life because you are a parent and know better. Just get the sense you might be struggling with the conflict of upsetting him...sometimes we just have to.

This is about more than socks!

Op is in Sweden though.

Is she going to let her baby sit through a snow storm with bare feet?

MinesAPintOfTea Mon 30-Sep-13 12:56:12

Get a lighter weight cosytoes for autumn (or a grobag with a safety harness) and then his toes won't be exposed.

Or stick him in tights every time you go out until he stops fighting it. You know tights won't do permanent damage so he'll just have to put up with them.

Jan49 Mon 30-Sep-13 13:05:57

Your ds sounds adorable, OP. LOL @ him thinking his feet have been stolen.grin

Could he have something like a blanket in his pushchair so you can cover his feet a bit when he's not walking and he'd still have his feet bare and free?

2tiredtocare Mon 30-Sep-13 13:22:56

My 9 month old DS sock refuser champion. If it was cold I'd stick him in a snowsuit/tights but what bugs me the most is that people have already started commenting on his lack of socks even though its still warm, argh

IceBeing Mon 30-Sep-13 13:23:43

quint caramel the OP said:

"I feel his hands/feet regularly and they feel warm"

So how exactly is this child at risk?

brightonbythesea Mon 30-Sep-13 13:27:40

It is annoying that people keep saying that to you, however, you should try sock ons. My DD loves to pull her socks off and sock-ons are the only way of stopping her!

MotherofBear Mon 30-Sep-13 13:28:42

I imagine that when it starts getting to be really cold, then the OP will put on her DS's cozytoes. She is talking about people commenting right now, when it isn't so cold.

currentbuns Mon 30-Sep-13 13:31:31

This happened to me in Denmark with DD1, two random, cross old Danish ladies stopped & chastised me for the fact that DD wasn't wearing gloves and her poor little hands were turning pink in the cold! They were absolutely right, of course, but DD had tugged her gloves off without me noticing and tossed them away.

campion Mon 30-Sep-13 13:40:51

Would you pander to him if he refused to sit in his car seat/undid his straps constantly?

If it's not cold it doesn't matter.When it's seriously cold it does matter and you're in charge.That saying about it taking a village to raise a child has some validity-unfortunately, in the UK no-one dares say anything.In much of northern Europe people are
less inhibited.Sometimes it's annoying and sometimes it makes you think!

LePamplemousseMousse Mon 30-Sep-13 13:42:19

I think YAB slightly U, as most mums/grannies/general busy bodies would think that a baby needs to have something on his feet at least at that temperature, and I know a lot of people who would say it. I would probably raise an eyebrow (if not say anything as I know how annoying that is).

YANBU about not forcing the socks if you think his feet genuinely aren't cold. If he's not screaming his head off they probably aren't. If you think this is the right thing you may just have to develop a thicker skin about the comments.

Having said that, I just pushed through the sock/tights refusal and made DD keep them on until she got used to them. It didn't take long until they didn't bother her any more, and it was worth it to avoid the drama once she had to get dressed for childcare and I didn't have time to negotiate (and it was too bloody cold to send her out without). I think you might be storing yourself up trouble for when he's older and even more strong willed if you don't just take the bull by the horns now...

Today it is 8 degree. Ds is wearing thermal underwear, clothes and a snow suit designed to be sufficient down to -30
I'm not sure at 8 degrees he needs thermal underwear, clothes and a snowsuit

If it is cold enough for that get up then it's cold enough for socks surely ??

Put a baby grow on him or tights and let him cry till he stops - it won't hurt him
Babies don't realise the relationship between wearing items of clothes and keeping warm. You are going to have to make many many decisions over the years that he will disagree with but are in his best Interests

Start now

KenAdams Mon 30-Sep-13 13:46:24

He won't be able to see his feet in his footmuff either though when it gets a bit colder so what will you do then?

Beastofburden Mon 30-Sep-13 13:50:10

LOL I was a shoe refuser too and my mum got fed up with hearing the old biddies muttering as she went down the street.

She says what she really wanted was a big badge saying, "YOU TRY".

DS1 was a shoe refuser so I stapped him into one of those woolly sleeping bag jobs. At 21 he still resents this, in fact it's about the only memory he ahs of his early childhood.

MrsWolowitz Mon 30-Sep-13 13:52:54

He needs to get used to wearing socks etc.

I know it's hard but it's just tough for him. He can't go around with bare feet in the cold.

These are great for keeping socks on a sock-hater

nethunsreject Mon 30-Sep-13 13:53:32

Ffs, some of the replies on here are unreal! Yanbu op. So he has bare feet? It's hardly abuse or neglect!

2tiredtocare Mon 30-Sep-13 13:54:00

People in the UK do dare to say things to strangers

diddl Mon 30-Sep-13 13:57:32

Leaving aside the socks for the moment-he's wearing thermal underwear, clothes & a snowsuit in 8°?

What's he going to wear when he gets cold??

diddl Mon 30-Sep-13 13:58:02

Sorry, when it (the weather) gets cold!

GladbagsGold Mon 30-Sep-13 13:58:52

Maybe you should get some socks that have a photo of his feet printed on? Or paint his feet so it looks like he is wearing socks. Or get some elastic and fasten to socks, tie to pushchair, so if he takes them off they are still dangling there proving to the world that you are not the worst mum ever and you do provide socks.

IceBeing - where have I said that the child is "at risk"?

At risk of what??

Please tell me.

ThreeMyselfAndI Mon 30-Sep-13 14:14:50

I would not approach you to say anything but I would be like this shock and would judge, sorry I am being honest I dont think it cold enough to warrant hats and gloves just yet but no socks, his wee feet must be freezing and sore. I would think he was inappropriately dressed without socks especially as you have thought it cold enough for a snow suit.

randomAXEofkindness Mon 30-Sep-13 14:18:29

DD1 has always been missing some important piece of clothing. She's still naked for most of the day now (she's 4). You're not leaving his shoes off because you're a bad mum. You've considered the advantages/disadvantages to your dd and make a decision. I'm always surprised that people get negative comments off strangers. Nobody has ever said anything to me (3 free range kids, varying degrees of undress, bf in public, in the big bit of the trolley shock and everything). I think I must just look dead 'ard grin.

Just hard-face it out. Some people are genuinely concerned that you're neglecting him, others are just taking whatever opportunities they can to give themselves a psuedo pat on the back. Both kinds are wrong in this instance. I'd just give them a hmm look and carry on.

Beastofburden Mon 30-Sep-13 14:39:49

DS2, who is autistic and profoundly LD, once ran away. He was found, stark naked, on the far side of a busy road, by a nurse who thought it was a tad odd to see a tiny boy wait nicely for the green man and cross the road with nothing on at all.

The police who took him away wouldn't give him back to start with until they realised he was 10 and not 4. Meanwhile my only thought was: "if he pisses all over the back of that panda car I will be going to prison".

Does that make you feel better, OP?

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