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Should I be worried about my sons' weight?

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Redtartanshoes Sun 29-Sep-13 19:55:18

My ds is 5 1/2. he is tall for her age (about 3"9) and quite a bit boy. He weighs about 5 1/2 stone.

He is the biggest in his class, and is obviously in clothes bigger than age (9-10) but to me he seems fine. He is happy, bright and doing well at school.

Is he much bigger than "normal"? (Whatever normal is?!)

Greenkit Sun 29-Sep-13 19:57:23

Have a look here http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/healthy-living/Pages/height-weight-chart.aspx

YouTheCat Sun 29-Sep-13 19:57:36

It does sound like quite a bit of weight for height/age.

Difficult to say exactly without seeing him though.

Does he get plenty of exercise? What's his diet like?

TerrorMeSue Sun 29-Sep-13 19:58:30

Yes, probably. Check him on the nhs charts, and if he's overweight get some advice from GP/HV. Much better to act sooner.

NickNacks Sun 29-Sep-13 19:59:07

Gosh that does seems quite big but it's difficult to say without seeing him.

Did he have a check up with the school nurse when he turned 5.

To out it in perspective my almost 10 yr old (who is also tall for his age) is 5st 1lb.

Sorry but I would say yes too, my nearly 8 yr old weighs 3.5 stone.

Sirzy Sun 29-Sep-13 20:01:13

I have just put those figures into the NHS bmi thing which brings it up as obese, although I know those things aren't always the most accurate I would be considering a trip to get some advice from the GP or similar.

YouTheCat Sun 29-Sep-13 20:02:06

Come to think of it, at 11 I was 4ft10 and 7 stone and going through puberty (so boobs and bum fat). I was a little chunky at that weight/height.

Have a look at the charts, and if you are concerned then have a chat with the school nurse.

It sounds quite heavy to me - my 11 year old DS is 4'9" (so a foot taller than him) and weighs 5st1lb. But children are built differently.

Melpomene Sun 29-Sep-13 20:04:52

According to this calculator that is 'very overweight': www.weightconcern.org.uk/node/9

It's worth seeing the doctor to get advice. You do need to take action now to avoid the problem getting worse.

SomeTeaPlease Sun 29-Sep-13 20:04:53

It warrants a visit to the GP and a look at his diet and exercise.

http://www.nhs.uk/tools/pages/healthyweightcalculator.aspx?WT.mc_id=101007

He is obese according to the BMI. Granted, it's not a good measure of health, but it is still concerning.

HicDraconis Sun 29-Sep-13 20:06:39

From a paediatric site:
A 5 year and 6 months old (male) child
who is 77 pounds
and is 3 feet and 9 inches tall has
a body mass index of 26.8,
which is over the 95th percentile,
and would indicate that your child is overweight.

So yes, you probably need to restrict high sugar stuff and get him exercising more. He'll grow into his weight that way.

Finola1step Sun 29-Sep-13 20:06:46

With his weight and height, he's possibly a little overweight but nothing really too serious I would have thought (but I am not a health care professional). Was he always big, even as a baby? My son is the same age and sits in between the 50th and 75th centile for his weight - which is where he was as a baby and then a toddler.

Is he active throughout the day including short bursts of energetic activity? There are some great videos on YouTube called five a day or fit in five. All designed to get kids active and healthy in five minute bursts. Schools really like the fit in 5. Worth a try?

He's 51/2 and 5 1/2 stone?
He is significantly overweight op sad Clothes sizing may vary but any child needing an age 10 at age 5 is way too big, and while he is bright and happy now, there will come a point where being the biggest in the class will be something that makes him unhappy.

The good thing is you have plenty of time NOW to alter whatever the eating patterns and lifestyle habits have made him overweight. Assuming that there is no medical reason (tbh that is very rare) than more likely it is a portion size and eating habit problem, and going to the GP u
is a good first step.

You may need to take a hard look at the family eating habits. Is he the only member of the family who is overweight or is everyone 'big'? Portion sizes for a 5 year old should be a LOT smaller than an adults, but it ciseasy to lose sight of what IS a portion size (I'm always amazed at how tiny an actual portion of cereal should be)

Good luck op.. DO something about it now before he is an unhappy fat teenager. If that sounds harsh, I work in school and see the effects of body image problems daily ...

peachypips Sun 29-Sep-13 20:20:27

My son is 5.8yrs and is just over three stones. He is average in his class in height.
I think it depends what your son is eating. If you give him sugar and fat a lot then I'm thinking you may have a problem. If he eats healthily then he is just big and that's the way he is.
My average son eats for example in a day:
2 weetabix and a bowl of porridge
A piece of fruit or some nuts
A ham sandwich, piece of cheese, yoghurt, fruit
Some crackers
Shepherds pie and veg (a portion about as big as the palm of my hand and a few inches thick)
A yoghurt
A piece of toast and honey

HTHs.

GangstersLoveToDance Sun 29-Sep-13 20:29:09

Yes, I think weight wise that is VERY large tbh.

Ds1 is 5.5 and in Year 1. He is just shy of 4ft (much taller than any others in his class) and weighs 4.25 stone. He is very sturdy and solid and wears trousers age 7-8 which are right length-wise but annoying because we have to use belts to hold them up because they're too large at the waist.

I struggle to see how any 5 year old can wear age 9-10 clothes tbh, unless it was for weight reasons. Your ds is 3 inches shorter than mine, yet he's in clothes 2 years older...how is that possible? Aren't the trousers/sleeves dragging on the floor?

monicalewinski Sun 29-Sep-13 20:38:58

You should be able to tell if he is overweight just by looking and comparing him to other children. If he is in proportion then he is fine - my oldest boy (11) was classed as 'overweight' in the yr 6 height/weight thing at primary but he is in a rugby team and football trains every week too; there is no fat on him, he's muscly and solid but still 'overweight'.

If your boy is a bit chunkier than he should be, I wouldn't be overly worried - just get him active (bike/walks/playing in park etc) and make sure he's eating well and he'll grow into his weight eventually.

Kungfutea Sun 29-Sep-13 20:40:35

If he's obese on the bmi calculator then I'd look at taking some action. My dd was obese at 4. She definitely wasn't the fattest child in her class but that's because children are obviously much bigger these days. we've been monitoring her weight and height (every 3 months or so) and she's moving slowly down the bmi percentiles and is now in the overweight group and not obese. If we keep moving in this direction, we hope she'll be a healthier weight when she hits adolescence.

It's a bit of a tight rope between not wanting food to be an issue or battleground and trying to make sure your child is healthy. Our dd is a foodie and while she loves junk and sweets is also happy to eat healthy food which is a definite plus. Shes also a hungry child so we try to fill her up with filling food but also have to watch portion size, especially for calorific food and do sometimes tell her that it's enough (not something I'm entirely comfortable with). For example, we give her a bowl of vegetable soup before her main meal if she's hungry.

Calories are important, obviously, but for children this age I think cutting out the processed carbs and junk is key. The message is around eating healthily rather than losing weigt.

Exercise is also very important. We saw a children's dietician who told us that exercise has much more of an impact on children's weight than adults. She advised us to aim for an hours vigorous activity a day.

I totally think you're doing the right thing not to ignore it. The way I look at it, my dd won't thank me in the future if shes a fat adult for ignoring the warning signs when she was a child. We have a tendency to type 2 diabetes in both mine and dh's family so we all have to be careful.

I was wondering about the length of clothes in age 9-10, surely they are way too long for a child who is 3'9"? Do you have to alter them?

IHeartIona Sun 29-Sep-13 20:48:14

My dd is 121cm at 5.5 and about 3.5 stone, slim. 91st centile for height I thnk, 50 th I think for weight. Did your son get weighed by the school nurse in reception and were there any concerns?

HeySoulSister Sun 29-Sep-13 20:50:10

What is he eating?

IfNotNowThenWhen Sun 29-Sep-13 20:51:17

You can see if a child is overweight. Your child shouldn't have a lot of excess fat. It's actually fine if you can faintly see their ribs. Many children are quite overweight now, and this is starting to look normal, but it stores up so many health problems for later life.
At 5 you can control what you buy, and what he eats, so just don't buy processed foods, snacks and cereals as these are the things that pile on the weight.
I was a right greedy guts as a kid and my parents (unbenownst to me) put me on a diet!
I have never had weight (or food) issues since, as I was subtly regulated.

SmiteYouWithThunderbolts Sun 29-Sep-13 20:51:25

It's a hard thing to admit, but yes it does sound like he's overweight. My ds2 is 7yo and wearing age 9-10 clothes because he is overweight despite eating the same meals as his brother and sister who are perfectly healthy weights.

Go and speak to your GP and ask for some guidance on getting his weight to a healthier level.

girliefriend Sun 29-Sep-13 20:51:53

My 7yo is tall for her age and weighs 4st 10lbs, so I would say for a 5yo to be over 5st is a lot.

I would speak to your g.p and see what they say also I think in reception they do weigh and measure the kids and give you some indication of whether they are overweight or not.

Awomansworth Sun 29-Sep-13 20:53:19

My ds (5.6) is 4ft 2" tall and weights 25kg (3.9 st). He is in a size 7-8 clothes.

He does eat loads, mostly healthy though with treats at week end only. I often wonder where he puts it all, but he is sport mad and had football training twice a week, goes to street dance once a week and after school multi sports once a week, swimming once a week too.

Do you thin he looks overweight?

cantspel Sun 29-Sep-13 20:53:37

At 5.5 stone even if he was aged 9 he would still be overweight so at 5 i would say you are on the way to be obese.

Kungfutea Sun 29-Sep-13 20:53:42

My dd is 6.5, 4" tall and weights 4 st 4lbs and she's on the 92nd percentile for bmi for girls her age (used to be on 96th).

Looking at the figures you gave above, I do think you need to look at making some changes.

Kungfutea Sun 29-Sep-13 20:55:37

Awomansworth

Bmi is only a guide, it's not diagnostic. But unless you're talking about a particularly sporty or muscular child then it's very likely that a child who is overweight or obese according to bmi is overweight. I wouldn't ignore unless I had a good reason to.

rockybalboa Sun 29-Sep-13 20:59:46

My 5 yo weighs 2st 7lb. He'd be round if he weighed an extra 3 stone.

Talkinpeace Sun 29-Sep-13 21:01:52

take the numbers out of it.
look at the child
he's 5 1/2 so is growing fast
bone and muscle should be almost stretching his skin

if he leans over forwards, can you see the lower edge of his ribs
if he stands up straight and pulls his tummy in, can you see his ribs round to the side
can you see his collar bones all the way along
do his knees look knobbly

if none of the above, he is grossly overweight
if less than three of the above he's over weight
if all of the above he's in the normal range

if you can see definition around his scapula (and are not slim yourself) he's marginally underweight

If you are worried maybe you should check it out with a health worker. Again all children a different and will have different body types but if he seems out of proportion in height and weight to you maybe it is an indication that he needs a little help.
Just to compare my son (nearly 6) is 4ft 1" and 3.6 stones. He is in aged 7-8 clothing, but for his height, we have to pull in the elastic when they are adjustable. My eldest son is 8 and in aged 10 clothing, again for his height and he is hands down the tallest in his class. Is his diet good? If it is maybe have his hormones/ metabolism checked out. Good luck with it.

QueFonda Sun 29-Sep-13 21:02:37

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

WorraLiberty Sun 29-Sep-13 21:02:39

He's wearing the clothes of a child twice his age.

Yes, I think it's time to get him/his diet checked out.

Does he get enough exercise?

Awomansworth Sun 29-Sep-13 21:03:23

Kungfu - I was asking the OP if she thought her ds looked overweight, not asking opinions on my ds, whose BMI is well within the healthy range given his height.

My ds is very tall and there isn't any fat on him at all, but I would struggle to see him not being overweight if he weighed 5.5 stone.

whatastar Sun 29-Sep-13 21:06:05

surely you can see if he looks big or not compared to other boys in his class who are the same height.

Orangeanddemons Sun 29-Sep-13 21:07:53

My dd was in age 9 dresses at 5 1/2....very tall, and they were the only ones long enough

GobblersKnob Sun 29-Sep-13 21:07:58

That does seem like rather a lot.

Dd is 5.5 and very tall fot her age, she weighs nearly 3 stone

Ds is 9 and average height, he weighs 4 stone and a bit.

NickNacks Sun 29-Sep-13 21:08:47

Another thread where the OP just disappears...

gordonpym Sun 29-Sep-13 21:08:59

He is not big because he is tall. He is tall because he is big. Overweight children tend to be taller than average because the additional fat tissue makes more growth hormones to stimulate vertical growth.

It doesn't seem right to me, and maybe not even to you OP, reason why you are posting here tonight.

Stop buying crisps, sodas, chocolate.

Redtartanshoes Sun 29-Sep-13 21:12:57

Thanks for the feedback.

Will make an appointment with GP and start addressing issues sad

WorraLiberty Sun 29-Sep-13 21:13:45

You need to look at him naked or in just a pair of pants

Use your eyes and your 100% honesty.

If he's carrying too much weight, don't put it down to 'puppy fat' or any other phrases that try to normalise overweight children.

And don't compare him to his peers because as someone else pointed out, there is such a high percentage of overweight children starting school every year.

SomeTeaPlease Sun 29-Sep-13 21:15:19

Good for you, OP. It will be much easier to instill a healthy lifestyle now than when he's older.

Try and make it fun and make changes for the whole family, not just your DS.

WorraLiberty Sun 29-Sep-13 21:16:49

X posted

But you're doing the right thing OP by recognising it and making a start on helping to put it right.

I'm sure you'll get his weight down because you have the right attitude

Good luck thanks

Talkinpeace Sun 29-Sep-13 21:17:16

OP
Well done on coming back. THat in itself shows you have the bravery to do what needs doing.
Do not wait for the GP.
You are in control.
Go and look at your kitchen.
Remove everything that has more than ten ingredients
then remove everything with more than 20% sugar
now sort your menus for the coming week
and the path will become clear for your whole family

Good on you, you are making the first step to giving him a healthier life, and while he is still little it will be so much easier. Let us know how you get on.

WorraLiberty Sun 29-Sep-13 21:21:03

Exercise is also a very important thing

I think we've lost sight of just how much energy children have and if how they were left to their own devices, they wouldn't sit still for more than a few minutes.

I hear a lot of parents saying "Oh well they run around at school and do PE twice a week".

But that's nowhere near enough. Besides that, many of the playgrounds are now too crowded to run around much, and an hour's PE will often include 15 mins of faffing around getting changed at the start and end of the lesson...so actually only about half an hour.

gordonpym Sun 29-Sep-13 21:22:16

I am sure you know what must be done. It's just difficult to get started, but MN is here for support!
Meanwhile these thanks are for you. I wasn't easy to come back!

pixiepotter Sun 29-Sep-13 21:25:11

My 12 yr old DD weighs 5.5stone and she has hips and boobs!!

hettienne Sun 29-Sep-13 21:28:09

The NHS BMI calculator makes him very obese, 100th centile for his age. I would be extremely concerned.

TerrorMeSue Sun 29-Sep-13 22:01:53

Well done. You can sort this out. You will need some support, you may need to change the whole family's habits and it will take a while for him to grow into his weight. However, it will be easier to do at this age before he will be really aware. Good luck.

peachypips Sun 29-Sep-13 22:09:08

Hats off to you OP for confronting it. You should be proud of yourself. You are being a great parent.

FloozeyLoozey Sun 29-Sep-13 22:11:44

My 7 year old is a couple of inches taller and weighs 3.5 stone.

pointythings Sun 29-Sep-13 22:16:27

He is overweight, OP - he weighs more than my DD2 who is 10 and half an inch shy of 5ft. But you are going to tackle it, so he will be absolutely fine. If you carry the changes through into your whole family, you will all benefit so hats off to you. flowers

manicinsomniac Sun 29-Sep-13 22:20:04

I think you are definitely right to be doing something about it. Your son is only around half a stone heavier than me and I'm over a foot taller and an adult! Good luck with the GP, I'm sure tackling the problem earlier will save him a lifetime of difficulty as an adult.

mumofweeboys Sun 29-Sep-13 22:24:32

Hi

Don't feel sad. I'm luckily that so far mine seem to have inherited OH skinny minty genes but I did realise they weren't getting enough exercise. I was told they should be doing an hour a day, everyday. Also my ds were eating far too much crap.

So we made some simple changes. We now walk to and from school (ds scoots) 20 mins each way. I've enrolled him in mini rugby and uni hock which he loves. I've also looking into swimming lessons. I'm also trying to get him out on his bike a couple of times a week too.

I've ditched the rubbish and cut down the treats to a plain biscuit or pancake ect once a day after evening meal. If they want anything else it's fruit or home made ice lolly ect.

I usually cook slimming world style meals so they are healthy enough, it's just the rubbish they were eating in between.

dementedma Sun 29-Sep-13 22:26:37

I sympathise. My 11 year old Ds wears age 14 clothes and is overweight. He hates team sports and isn't very active. We have had to try and change our lifestyles to encourage him to be more active so this weekend he accompanied me on his very underused bike while I went for a walk, then kicked a ball around the park for half am hour with dh. Might not seem much to those wit sporty kids but a lot for him. Its going to be a real battle .....he is also a rather large child in other ways. He takes a size seven shoe already and stand s 5 foot 5. Christ, he's not even 12!

LetsFaceTheMusicAndDance Sun 29-Sep-13 22:31:59

I'm going to go against the grain here.

OP please please please read 'Helping Without Harming' by Ellyn Satter this book before carting your son off to the GP.

RobotHamster Sun 29-Sep-13 22:36:30

My son is the same age and height as your son. He's only 3 stone! Yes he's a skinny child, but he's just below the 50th centile

pointythings Sun 29-Sep-13 22:37:37

dementedma I do think you have to not get too paranoid. My DD1 is 12, she's 5ft 6 and yes, takes a 7 shoe. I think she is going to be tall like me (just shy of 6 ft). Getting him more active is the best thing you can do and you're doing it.

DD1 was not at all interested in team sports until she hit Yr7 - she is now in Yr8 and plays netball and basketball for the school, will be on the girls' football team if it gets off the ground and is fitter than ever. She's a size 8 and activity has definitely made her leaner and more defined - her skinny jeans now fit like straight legs... If you can find something to take your DS's interest they can get fit really quickly.

I agree that you need to be really careful raising weight issues with a child - I'd always change the habits of the family as a whole, including healthier eating and activity levels, rather than focusing on an individual's weight and appearance as that can backfire.

Kungfutea Sun 29-Sep-13 22:48:17

Awomansworth

I wasn't commenting on your child, just whether bmi should be used as a guide on whether a child is overweight.

JeanPaget Sun 29-Sep-13 22:51:39

Hope you're ok OP, it's a hard thing to hear.

On a more positive note, I do think that 5 is young enough to be able to tackle his size without causing long term issues around eating, so long as it's done sensibly and sensitively. I think you'll be doing a real kindness if you help him lose weight now rather than allowing him to be overweight as a teenager (speaking as someone who was overweight and v. self-conscious as a teen).

LEtranger Sun 29-Sep-13 22:52:15

For comparison my 10 year old DS is 5foot tall and weighs 5stone dead. 5 1/2 stone at under 4" seems very heavy. I used to worry about my kids being too skinny, but then I was told by a doctor that not only is it "ok" to be able to see a child's ribs - you should be able to see their ribs - they should naturally carry less weight than adults if eating the appropriate amounts because they're growing too fast to put on fat.

Donkeyok Sun 29-Sep-13 22:56:03

Lots of sensible advice from MN'ers. The main article inside the Independent today was that being obese is not as bad for you as being unfit. (selective bits here)
CHILDHOOD OBSITY OBSESSION MASKS FITNESS TIME BOMB
'nearly half of all 11 year olds are unfit'
1 in 4 obese children have good physical fitness but 40 % of 15 year olds were unfit;
which would harm them more than being obese!
Obviously hard for schools to put 1 hour a day PE in with other curriculum commitments (academic targets).
My militant friend were always saying the emphasis on food was a diversion caused by supporting food industry and after reading this I feel the need to push the exercise more. My dc went on a march today (NUT /NHS/ unison in family) for couple of hours but as it was a nice day and I felt unnerved by what I'd read I suggested the trampoline when we got back. shock

Orangeanddemons Mon 30-Sep-13 15:51:34

Also, taller and fatter don't always correlate. My dd was on the 97th percentile when born. She's 7 and wears age 10 clothes

Beastofburden Mon 30-Sep-13 16:18:47

Well done OP. you are doing him a huge favour by dealing with this while he is little. Long before he gets seriously bullied. Long before he gets an eating disorder. Long before he is too old just to grow into his weight. It is not too late, it is all still curable and manageable, it will be fine.

This is parenting at its best- hearing something difficult and putting him first so it gets sorted. Well done. Have some wine

persimmon Mon 30-Sep-13 18:12:27

Your DS may be happy and bright but it does sound like he is overweight.
There are sites where you can compare your child's silhouette to standardised ones to see if they are overweight - apparently most people these days think that slightly overweight is normal.
Sorry can't do you a link - Google it.

Angloamerican Mon 30-Sep-13 18:26:31

My very tall, broad-shouldered daughter (mama's genes!) weighs 48lbs, so about 3.5 stones. Honestly, he sounds very overweight to me. A 5 year old wearing size 9-10 clothes is not "normal", as much as I hate that word. As other posters have suggested, it's much easier to nip this in the bud while he is still young and you have complete control over his diet, rather than battling an incalcitrant, resentful teenager. Perhaps you can enlist your GPs assistance? Good luck!

BeeMom Mon 30-Sep-13 18:46:26

My DD is 49" tall and weighs 3 1/2 stone - she turns 8 in 3 weeks. So, yes... if your DS is 4" shorter and 2 stone heavier... he is overweight.

There is no sense making excuses - even if he IS the "biggest in his class", he is also sporting a BMI over the 95th percentile. He is not just big, he is obese.

Less food, more activity, turn off the electronics. His heart and joints will thank you.

georgedawes Mon 30-Sep-13 18:48:17

the OP has already taken on board all the comments and has said she's going to the GP, no need for people to keep piling on!

Rowgtfc72 Mon 30-Sep-13 18:55:18

DD is 6.5, 4ft 3in and weighs bang on five stone. She is in 10-11 clothes as she has a long back and is a broad solid child. Her age clothes are too short and trousers do up half way across her bum rather than round her waist, so it is possible for a child of this age to be in bigger clothes. Perhaps not normal but possible. Ive taken her to the doctors, apparently she is bang on height for weight and they have no concerns.
Your DS may just need to grow into his weight but you need a healthcare professional to give you a totally unbiased opinion.
If he is overweight use it as an opportunity to all have a healthy lifestyle, he doesn't need to know hes overweight, have some fun trying new foods and activities.
All the best.

Orangeanddemons Mon 30-Sep-13 19:28:20

Interesting Row, that's exactly what my dd was at that age. I entered those measurements into one of the things on here, and she came up as overweight. Except she is 7 now and I entered those old measurements. The only one that is correct ime is the NHS one.

Because your and my dc are so tall, they are automatically classed as overweight, as so few dc have these measurements at this age, the calculators can't read it properly. My dd is now in age 10 clothes, she has just gone into age 10 school trousers, the age 9s were flapping round her ankles. She isn't overweight though, and I get a bit fed up of the assumption that because a dc is much taller than average they are fat. Dd was born tall. She isn't skinny, but she fits her age appropriate clothing with no problems

Minifingers Mon 30-Sep-13 19:34:06

You can't tell enough by BMI.

Look at your child's middle.

Are they carrying pudge around their middle? Can you pinch an inch or more? Love handles.

If they have any excess abdominal fat they're overweight and need to slim down.

Orangeanddemons Mon 30-Sep-13 19:39:00

I was a skinny child, and then turned into a really fat chub at 8 or 9. By age 11 I was 5ft 5 and skinny. I grew about 3 more inches then stopped growing at about 121/2. Just because a kid is a bit chubby, it doesn't mean they will stay that way. Puberty and growth spurts often eradicate the problem.
I think there is an almost hysterical thing about kids being overweight. But everyone is different and develops at different speeds.

Talkinpeace Mon 30-Sep-13 20:09:23

I think there is an almost hysterical thing about kids being overweight.
That is because far more kids in the UK are overweight than underweight.
Being underweight can be cured in a matter of weeks.
Being overweight can take a lifetime to deal with.

PenguinDancer Mon 30-Sep-13 20:10:08

Yes that sounds very overweight to me. I also have a very tall child but he is in proportion.

PenguinDancer Mon 30-Sep-13 20:11:19

I think there is an almost hysterical thing about kids being overweight

and so there should be. It is often taught/learned bad habits and is very hard to undo. It's totally unfair on the child as they have little to no control over it.

PenguinDancer Mon 30-Sep-13 20:12:58

BTW great that you asked and plan on doing something about it. We as parents struggle to see the things we should change, let alone actually change it smile

LaGuardia Mon 30-Sep-13 20:48:36

I went to dds harvest festival today. I was truly shock by the number of obese children in the school. What are their parents feeding them fgs?

pointythings Mon 30-Sep-13 21:25:34

As someone who has spent the past 10 years taking in waistbands and being annoyed by tops wide enough for two, can I just say that not all very tall children are also fat? I've suffered enough sewing with my two to know it isn't so.

Thank goodness for slim fit school trousers...

Pinkpinot Mon 30-Sep-13 21:45:31

Are you sure you have the measurements right?
I don't think 3.9 is that tall for 5.5

Twattybollocks Mon 30-Sep-13 22:34:25

I also don't think 3ft 9 is hugely tall for his age. You must have to take up his trousers by 6 inches if he's in 9-10 age clothes as my son is 8.5, slightly taller than average and i have just had to send back size 9-10 school trousers as they were 2 inches too long (and about 4 inches too big round the waist) he is 4ft5 inches, and weighs about 4stone. He is normal weight, well muscled but can see his ribs, no podge anywhere.
I think if you are having to buy clothes 4 years above what he actually is just to get room in the waist and chest then yes, your child is overweight.

Retroformica Mon 30-Sep-13 22:45:18

Well done OP. recognising there is a problem is the first step. It easy to stick your head in the sand and be in denial but you can make huge changes with little baby steps.

Can you get the health visitor on board or even us mumsnutters? Get all the info and support you can.

With your DS talk about being healthy and avoid saying diet.

My DS (all of em) are the opposite end weight wise. My 5 year old is 2 stone 5 and tiny. He's also bright and bubbly but just at the very bottom end if the percentile chart. Yet he eats a great variety of healthy stuff.

Today

Breakfast - scrambled egg and tomato
Lunch - cheese and cucumber sandwich, plum, water, seeds/nuts
Snack - small amount of cereal with milk
Tea - fish pie and veg, greek yogurt with honey

BrandybuckCurdlesnoot Mon 30-Sep-13 22:56:36

My 5 and (just over a) half year old is 3 ft 9 and weighs 3 stone 3 pounds. It's good you're planning on adjusting things if necessary.

nopanicandverylittleanxiety Fri 04-Oct-13 01:31:04

he does sound overweight and you could do with making some changes

Sunnysummer Fri 04-Oct-13 01:42:12

He is heavy - and looking is not always a good test, as so many kids are now overweight that our perceptions of average are often a bit askew (though one that's often mentioned is that at this age you should be able to see their ribs). The height can also be a bit misleading, as children who are eating a little too much also tend to grow faster than peers.

But none of us can give you a form answer without actually meeting your son - perhaps you could go to your GP or HV? If they do think that he could do with a few lifestyle changes then it should be easy at this age, or alternatively they may check up on any other causes.

tiggyhop Fri 04-Oct-13 01:49:48

My ten year old ds, who is 4 ft 9 weighs 5 stone 5 and is solid.

bababababoom Fri 04-Oct-13 22:42:20

My son is 6, 3ft11 and weighs just under 3 stone. He is very active though, never stops running.

On an average day he eats (example):

Breakfast: Weetabix, banana
Snack: apple, breadsticks
Lunch: Sandwich with quorn ham and cheese, or with hummus, Vegetable sticks, crisps, yogurt, fruit
Snack: Fruit, or one plain biscuit, or cereal bar
Dinner: Lasagne or spaghetti bolognese made with quorn, or vegetable risotto, or quorn fillets with potatoes and broccolli, followed by yogurt and fruit
Bedtime: Milky drink.

It does sound like your son is overweight. But personally I would try to make small changes before making a big issue of this to your son, taking him to the gp etc. I became a chubby child around the age of 9 or 10, and later developed an Eating Diisorder for which I was hospitalised. I'm not saying that to make you panic, but to let you know you're doing the right thing in not burying your head in the sand and in taking some action. Your son is young, and his relationship with food can be changed now, which will benefit the rest of his life. You're a great parent doing a great thing.

Just focus on maintaining a positive and healthy self image, don't link weigth with self worth, never make him feel greedy, and don't single him out, I would talk about eating more healthily as a family without mentioning his weight. Talk about how our bodies need all kinds of foods, some they need more of than others, etc, then focus on healthy balance, and becoming more active - and your son's weight will hopefully stabilise and he will slim down as he grows. If you don't see that happening then maybe consider the gp at that point?

LadyOfTheFlowers Fri 04-Oct-13 22:45:29

My 7 and 8 year old both weigh 3.5 stone. Both are quite tall.

akachan Fri 04-Oct-13 23:11:04

What this thread desperately needs is some heights/weights of other posters' children.

Can anyone oblige?

clam Fri 04-Oct-13 23:26:00

grin akachan

lazydog Fri 04-Oct-13 23:26:52

My 10.5 yr old ds2 is pretty skinny, but healthy and energetic with it. He is 4'10" tall and weighs 73lbs, so that'd be 5st 3lbs.

lazydog Fri 04-Oct-13 23:28:33

LOL @ akachan... Doh! Wish I'd read to the end of the thread grin

defineme Fri 04-Oct-13 23:32:20

Ignore the hysteria op... 26 BMI is not a disaster....24.5 BMI is fine.
More exercise, smaller portions and healthier choices...you can soon sort that out.

MajorieDawes Sat 05-Oct-13 01:54:36

Defineme

You do realize that child bmi categories are not the same as adult ones? A bmi of 24.5 is also obese for a child.

nooka Sat 05-Oct-13 02:43:05

My children are both tall, dd very much so and I have never found that BMIs assessed her as overweight. It's a measure of height compared with weight so being tall really will not distort the outcome.

ds for a while was so underweight that some calculators gave error messages but that's another matter surely? Just for reassurance he is perfectly healthy, just seems genetically predisposed to carry very little fat (eats a ton and is pretty active, doctors always seem delighted) and has filled in a bit now he is a teenager.

Driz Sat 05-Oct-13 02:55:37

Yes. A little.
However, my children were also big at that age but they did slim down very quickly so it doesn't necessarily mean that it is a huge ongoing problem, but you should be aware.

Bakingtins Sat 05-Oct-13 04:14:11

How can anybody be saying this is a child who is "a bit big"?

For his height, he is on the 100th BMI percentile. To be at the top of the healthy weight range (85th BMI percentile) he would need to be 2 stone lighter. The average child of that height (50th BMI percentile) is 3 stone 3lb.

OP he has a serious weight problem and you need to get some help for him now. I'd go straight to the GP and ask for referral to a dietician/paediatrician.

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