sorry X factor!!

(72 Posts)
thebody Sat 28-Sep-13 21:24:16

watched X factor since the start, reason being at home with kids, but this year is so nasty and cruel. totally disgusted. I know aibu to watch this crap but sad its sunk so low.

grumpalumpgrumped Sat 28-Sep-13 21:26:24

Was just about to start a thread saying the same.

headlesslambrini Sat 28-Sep-13 21:26:26

DH and I were just saying the same thing. The way they are doing it this year is just too much for the people taking part. Some of them are only 16 - 17 years old FFS

JamieandtheMagicTorch Sat 28-Sep-13 21:28:18

The whole of TV culture has sunk to this (possibly a wild generalisation, but ...) Our children are learning that it's OK to say what you like to who you like as long as they "deserve" it because of their lack of talent. It's institutionalised bitching and bullying

Mumsyblouse Sat 28-Sep-13 21:28:34

It's one thing to throw one of the contestants out in a boot camp, but in front of thousands, it's nasty, I agree. The one really upset then has to walk across and congratulate the winner, completely gutted. I let my girls stay up for this and I wish I hadn't now.

HeySoulSister Sat 28-Sep-13 21:28:39

It's edited to look more cruel than it is....the contestants know the score!

16/17/18 year olds aren't made of glass!

JamieandtheMagicTorch Sat 28-Sep-13 21:29:17

But the children watching don't know that HeySoulSister

thebody Sat 28-Sep-13 21:29:17

exactly, I think ITV need to be very careful they don't want the first Xfactor suecide. or maybe they do.

horrible nasty

WestieMamma Sat 28-Sep-13 21:31:40

I stopped watching it when I found out that the awful repeat contestants at the first stage are talked into auditioning and humiliating themselves again.

Iaintdunnuffink Sat 28-Sep-13 21:32:13

It's so pointless. It adds nothing if people can be moved off. It's not enjoyable to watch. It's not nice.

thebody Sat 28-Sep-13 21:32:41

Mumsy totally agree, my dds 14,13 are very quiet. they have watched this show for years but this seems like bullying to me. oldest just gone to her room, this was our family Tv night .. sad

HeySoulSister Sat 28-Sep-13 21:35:10

Bullying??

jellyfl00d Sat 28-Sep-13 21:37:46

Westie, forgive me for being naive but did they really rope in the previous rejects only to reject them again for the sake of sensational tv rather than the people cos they really wanted too? If so that's truly awful shock

YAsoNBU

It does seem to have reached new heights of cruelty this year. It makes me uncomfortable that we are expected to find this enjoyable

jellyfl00d Sat 28-Sep-13 21:39:26

...sorry,meant rather than old contestants applying themselves cos they wanted too.

pudcat Sat 28-Sep-13 21:39:26

I think it is all set up to be cruel for effect. The judges know who they want and so the contestants are put in a certain order so that there is always going to be someone sent of a stool. And how some of them do get through is beyond me.

HeySoulSister Sat 28-Sep-13 21:41:30

jamie children?? It's not a children's show!

FlobberWobber Sat 28-Sep-13 21:45:55

I was about to start a thread saying thesame thing! So cruel this year... These aren't people who have signed up for Big Brother.

FlobberWobber Sat 28-Sep-13 21:46:38

Watching it made me very uncomfortable.

thebody Sat 28-Sep-13 21:47:25

HeySoul disagree it is Saturday night TV which should be enjoyed with children.

humphryscorner Sat 28-Sep-13 21:49:20

Yep me and DH agreed, lots of head messing going on there just for ratings. I don't see the point.

Only came back to watch because Shazza is back. I had to stop watching when kitty was on as DH thought I was going to smash the T.V up!

borninastorm Sat 28-Sep-13 21:51:18

I have always loved x-factor but tonight's show has depressed the hell out of me. Too, too, too cruel.

Those poor girls faces sitting on the chairs thinking they were going to be the one's ejected. Surely this is a step too far?.

HeySoulSister Sat 28-Sep-13 21:51:40

It's just finished at 9.50... How old are your children? It's past the 'watershed'

WestieMamma Sat 28-Sep-13 22:00:30

jellyfl00d I can't swear to it, but I did read an article where they were talking about a lady with learning difficulties who had appeared several times. The article said that producers rang her up each time and talked her into trying again, telling her that she really stood a good chance this time. It was horrible.

JamieandtheMagicTorch Sat 28-Sep-13 22:05:49

HeySoul

The only people I know who talk about it and enjoy it are children 9I work in a school). Not my children

thebody Sat 28-Sep-13 22:15:16

Hey soul my younger kids are 14 and 13, it's Saturday night.

I watched morcombe and wise with my parents till after 9!! it was nice.

Saturday night should be family night TV? why not?

early teens don't to to bed at 7 but too young for the pubs!! grin

just felt this old show that our lads watched( now grown up) has become gratuitously cruel and nasty.

samu2 Sat 28-Sep-13 22:19:27

It did seem cruel but I think most of it is fake so they were probably aware that it was going to happen anyway.

Cynic/

jellyfl00d Sat 28-Sep-13 22:28:13

It is cruel, but I think they must know what's going to happen, that last girl on the chairs was holding hands with the young girl and before Nicole announced they let go of hands and have a look like they knew. Bloody stupid show, I can't believe I've been sucked in again, I vowed I wouldn't!

jellyfl00d Sat 28-Sep-13 22:28:36

Weak is what I am!confused

yummumto3girls Sat 28-Sep-13 22:32:16

Agree, very odd this year and I don't like it. That poor girl from the Daisy Chains was encouraged to split with her friends and then still rejected, very cruel. I don't see how the judges can make a considered decision when put on the spot like that! My DC's also stay up for X factor, family night here too. They are normally gripped but both bored tonight and one resorted to reading the Argos catalogue!!

thebody Sat 28-Sep-13 22:35:14

yep they definatly got it wrong this time. won't be watching next week. end of an Era for our family.

FlobberWobber Sat 28-Sep-13 22:37:26

Has anyone read chart throb by Ben Elton? It explains how the show works, really dirty tactics.

thebody Sat 28-Sep-13 22:46:05

Flonbber, no but will do now.

ShakeAndVac Sat 28-Sep-13 23:06:13

Don't know what's going on in it this year as I stopped watching it last year, but know what you mean.
I stopped watching it because it was just getting so nasty.
Yes, there may be someone who is completely tone deaf and shouldn't be allowed to sing,EVER, but to literally burst out laughing and snigger behind your hands as they have their turn is disgusting, which is what they were doing when I last watched it.
Just no need whatsoever.
Bunch of bullying twats, and it makes uncomfortable watching so I haven't even entertained the idea of watching it this year, I've just switched right off andnot watched any of it.

HeySoulSister Sat 28-Sep-13 23:08:56

Can't you tell it's staged? It's very obvious to me...

thebody Sat 28-Sep-13 23:28:25

yes I think it perhaps always was, but this year it's really nasty so the staging Is totally wrong.

this is not entertainment. it used to be but now it's not.

daisydee43 Sun 29-Sep-13 18:17:17

Yes I think this year is totally cruel with the who swapping seats thing but I have to admit I'm loving it, really on the edge of my seat, can't wait for tonight - think Nicole is a Valium addict (poor Lewis) - agree with older post that it's all staged and there's a lot of acting involved with the contestants, after all last years final 12 all had agents

IfYouLoveSomebodyLetThemSleep Sun 29-Sep-13 18:19:36

Yanbu, we found it very uncomfortable viewing. I don't think I'll bother tuning in again.

MortifiedAdams Sun 29-Sep-13 18:23:25

Pre X Factor, the standard was gigging the arse of yourself and facing constant judging in the hope that someone, someday, would sign you.

X Factor is a fast track to fame and fortune. It looks like a hard life being rich and famous, constantly under the lens.....years of gigging prepares you. The X Factor cuts that out, but still.needs to weed out the weaker personalities.

thebody Sun 29-Sep-13 18:24:03

Nicole gets on my tits the way she always gets up and gyrates. so full of herself. silly daft mare.

thought far too cruel last night. this wasn't the first round. they had been told they were through and then some got decision reversed.

horrible bullying.

nokidshere Sun 29-Sep-13 18:32:27

Come on guys - it's all scripted after all. And the ones who are cajoled back are well paid. The last 3 girls last night were always going to get in because they were the better singers.

MortifiedAdams Sun 29-Sep-13 18:49:29

They werent told they were through. They knew they werent safe til everyone had sung. Some of you are ever so dramatoc and pearl-clutchy.

Darkesteyes Sun 29-Sep-13 18:49:30

The point is this show sends out the message that bullying is ok, Which is why i dont watch the shit unless im at my parents where my DM insists on watching it. sad

Altinkum Sun 29-Sep-13 18:52:53

I don't think its cruel tbh, I think its unfair, the industry is and will always be about the voice/look, cfactor this year I think are highlighting this point.

Many music stars, have been heartbroken numerous times and its made them want to succeed further, its a tough industry and only the strong survive.

colleysmill Sun 29-Sep-13 18:57:17

Last year I decided that I wasn't going to watch anymore despite having watched from the start. Life still carried on smile So I'm not watching this year either.

SmiteYouWithThunderbolts Sun 29-Sep-13 18:57:21

Many music stars, have been heartbroken numerous times and its made them want to succeed further, its a tough industry and only the strong survive.

True, but they won't have had their humiliating rejections and heartbreak broadcast to the entire nation in the name of Saturday night light entertainment. For some of those people, this is their life's dream and we're watching, eagerly soaking up their misery. It's schadenfreude at its nastiest.

choccychoccylover Sun 29-Sep-13 19:05:08

watch Strictly instead it's much nicer (although Craig can be a bit mean) X F is all about the judges now,can't stand it, especially Osbourne and Barlow

EndoplasmicReticulum Sun 29-Sep-13 19:09:52

Never mind cruel, it's just crap this year. Last night's episode was put together really strangely - they were doing sing-offs, then suddenly the chair thing, then halfway through the overs chair thing it stopped.

It's obviously scripted, they know who they are going to put through before the chair thing. I spotted the girl in sparkly frock would get sent home as we had never seen her before.

Anyway, I have watched it from the beginning. Although I'm not making them any money as I record it to watch later (and skip adverts) and have never phoned up during a live show.

But I'm not watching it any more, I have decided it's taking over too much of my evening. Saturday and Sunday, and last night's went on for bloody ever.

ILetHimKeep20Quid Sun 29-Sep-13 19:19:58

Flobber I'm sorry but don't prompt a work of fiction as fact! Chart Throb is a great book, written some time ago now, in typical Ben Elton style, it's not factual and doesn't give you an insight! It's his style, just like the one about congestion, or the big brother parody or the Hollywood one. Entertaining but fictional.

thebody Sun 29-Sep-13 19:38:11

no not pearl clutchy, or yes maybe I am if that means I don't enjoy ritual humiliation and bullying then glad to pearl clutch.

MalcolmTuckersMistress Sun 29-Sep-13 19:46:53

Xfactor is the epitome of cunt-culture.

HeySoulSister Sun 29-Sep-13 20:42:11

How is it bullying?

The word 'bullying' is a buzzword on MN this week, and it's used too easily and losing its real meaning IMO!

IamSlave Sun 29-Sep-13 20:44:45

Yes its turned really vile and what happens to the winners?

Its pointless cheap and nasty,

The only thing I can say in its defence is that it has been on long enough now for people to know they will get spoken to dreadfully if they are not good enough.

thebody Sun 29-Sep-13 20:50:28

well to me a type of bullying can be to let a person believe they have reached a level,and tell them they have ANC congratulate them only to then suddenly tell them actually you haven't.

I call that nasty and bullying.

thebody Sun 29-Sep-13 20:50:47

well to me a type of bullying can be to let a person believe they have reached a level,and tell them they have ANC congratulate them only to then suddenly tell them actually you haven't.

I call that nasty and bullying.

HeySoulSister Sun 29-Sep-13 20:51:43

It's not! They know the score, know how it works and know what to expect. How on earth is that bullying?

thebody Sun 29-Sep-13 20:59:44

kids go to school daily 'knowing the score' and get bullied! don't get your point?

HeySoulSister Sun 29-Sep-13 21:01:34

At school? What do you mean?

On X factor they know if they get a seat they can lose it... They know there's a chance they will be going home just like they know they can stay....how on earth is that 'bullying'??

soontobeburns Sun 29-Sep-13 21:13:06

I dont know whats happening but I just turned to plus 1 to check it out and have to say..is Nicole a Cheryl clone now?

The hair is gorgeous but too Cheryl like.

ILetHimKeep20Quid Sun 29-Sep-13 21:46:44

It's not bullying. It's a bit shabby but there's no bullying.

cardibach Sun 29-Sep-13 21:50:10

I don't think it is bullying either. Bullying is sustained abuse, not this. It is, however, unnecessarily complicated and cruel.
I have not heard anyone I like this year yet, though, so in combination with the stupid system of judging I may not watch it again.

Writerwannabe83 Sun 29-Sep-13 21:51:12

It isn't bullying at all!!!

CiderBomb Sun 29-Sep-13 22:11:13

Watch Strictly instead, it's far nicer.

GeeTeeEff Sun 29-Sep-13 22:17:55

Bullying? Sorry I don't think so.

The contestants all know what they're in for. Harsh? Gutting? Shattered dreams? Yes.

Bullying? No way.

imnotwhoyouthinkiam Sun 29-Sep-13 22:30:28

It's not bullying imo, but it is cruel sad

And why are they still going to judges houses? I thought they'd picked their final 6 confused or do they not have that many in the live shows?

NicknameIncomplete Sun 29-Sep-13 22:52:48

They will be going to judges houses to wittle it down from 6 to 3.

I dont think that it was bullying because not once were they told that once they sat on the seat their place was safe quite the opposite. They knew that they may be swapped for someone else.

I wouldnt call it a family show anymore as it starts quite late especially on a sunday. For younger children anyway.

imnotwhoyouthinkiam Sun 29-Sep-13 23:01:16

Ah, thanks! I should watch it all, instead of fast forwarding all but the actual singing!

thebody Sun 29-Sep-13 23:27:09

bullying = cruel= nasty.

however each to their own and it's just words really.

still nasty.

NicknameIncomplete Sun 29-Sep-13 23:47:46

Imnotwhoyouthinkiam - i do that too. Cant be bothered listening to all the sob stories.

imnotwhoyouthinkiam Sun 29-Sep-13 23:58:30

I do it on most things, I only watch the dance and scores on strictly, I don't care what the judges say lol!

HeySoulSister Mon 30-Sep-13 13:16:36

Well the contestants know how the show works, they are told what will happen and know what to expect...they have the option of just walking away..... And even those rejected have agents and ( on tv earlier) have recording agencies interested already

FrenchRuby Mon 30-Sep-13 13:37:15

It's so so so staged and set up.
The first auditions (the ones where you don't see judges, about 4 auditions before you even see the tv judges) is just pot luck, you get split in groups and put in front of producers who only have a small numbers of 'yes' cards to give out.
Then there's 3 or 4 more auditions before the televised auditions, so that means the bad auditionees who everyone loves to laugh at have been told 5 separate times that they're good enough to go through, only to be laughed at by millions....
The judges have already picked out who they want on the live shows way before the boot camp auditions.

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