To think school reading logs are a pain?(36 Posts)
They drive me mad. DD (Yr6) gets books home from school. They are really good books - Inkheart, that kind of thing. Really excellent children's literature. She is supposed to read for half an hour a day from her school book.
Trouble is, she creeps off and reads them constantly. Half the time I don't know she's reading them, because she's curled up in the spare room with them and reads them. In a week, she's read them. And can discuss content too.
Am I supposed to stalk her around the house to check what she is reading and when? To complicate matters, she also usually has a library book on the go at the same time. It's driving me up the wall.
WIBU to enter entirely fictional entries into DD's reading log, given that she is a complete bibliovore and I can't keep up with it all?
My DD ( yr5) is exactly the same. She has gone through most of the age appropriate books in our library. To be honest I don't worry too much about her reading log. I just put that she has read and enjoyed the school book as well as many others that week. In fact on Thursday I asked if they could give her a different one as she was getting no enjoyment whatsoever from the one she was reading, and I could understand why. It was as dull as ditchwater!
Tell the teacher what the situation is. Sign her off every day. No doubt there'll be tabs being kept on the teacher that THEY have to check the logs too.
Good that your DD is a voracious reader.
Presumably the 30 minute a day thing is only a guide and just to encourage those who don't like reading to do this - so more a minimum. Can she not just fill in what she has really read herself?
I would get her to fill it in.
I agree with Humphrey, teachers at my dc grammar school who are very keen on this have suggested competent readers should fill it in themselves and that is year 4.
I just used to roughly fill it in as best I could remember they'd read, usually the night before the diary was due to be checked the next day.
I had no concerns about how much dc were reading and I think that being too rigid about it sucks all the joy and pleasure from it.
At year 6, she should be filling it in herself and you should just sign and comment if you want to. Or, if you have to fill it in then just ask her what she's read and she can tell you.
I like reading logs, but if your child is a keen and very competent reader, the she doesn't have as much to get out of a reading log as a child who struggles. Really don't worry about it too much if the teacher isn't trying to get your dd to fill it in anyway.
YANBU. We are hopeless at filling in DS's log.
He's been reading independently since Y1 and is now in Y4. He's read the first few Harry Potters, all David Walliams, currently reading Louis Sachar. And he's still not a free reader at school and is on level 15.
He won't read the school books, even just to move up the levels and I'm not going to turn reading into a source of conflict. I've explained this to all his teachers and they say that's fine, just put in what he's reading at home. We do this
when we remember every so often, but it makes no difference to what they let him read at school.
But we just put the book title, not what pages he's read, if that helps the OP. With DD, we used to put the week and write [book title] x 7 to show she'd read every day.
I am now onto child no. 3 with these bloody things. I just write the date and 'good reading'. Every single time.
I like the idea of having her fill it in herself - including the non-school books she is reading. Thanks for that, really helpful! She's reading a Gerald Durrell omnibus alongside her school book and I've included that - My Family and Other Animals may surprise her teacher a bit, but it makes a great talking point and is doing wonders for her vocabulary.
chicapagua I so know where you are coming from. DD's school went back on scheme books last year - DD got the Big Cats ones (diamond and pearl level) and although they were quite good (written by well known authors, meaty storylines and vocab), they didn't match up to what she was used to. She worked her way through them.
At the moment her school is categorising 'proper' books (like Inkheart, Ingo, and many others) into a sort of super reading band for the top Yr 6 readers, and I like that. DD is getting some really good stuff home. We've discovered a new author (Nancy Farmer) and DD will be getting a trilogy of her stuff for Christmas, so it's not all bad. But I'm definitely going to make her do her own log, one less thing for me to worry about.
You could be me!
I've just tonight put a note in my DS reading log, hate them with a a passion, talk about taking any enjoyment out of reading.
There is shitty note in from the teacher, saying "2 weeks and no books..."
My answer is 2 weeks lots of books every night for at least a hour, just not the school books that are boring.. we have no issues with DS reading , he loves reading.. just doesn't bring the book home, show me the log or even put any importance on the log.
If I wanted him to be a public sector worker I'd get him to fill in the sodding log.. talk about a waste of everyones time.
Maybe the teachers should read with the Yr5's they would soon figure out which can read and which can't.
Da is in year 5 & I just have to sign to say I have seen him read any book from school or home for at least 10 mins
He makes a seoarAte log if the books in his planner. We are also encouraged to hear them read out loud every week.
YANBU. I have the same issue. The reading diary has to be completed and signed by a parent so I can't even give this job to the DC. So I simply ask the DC to tell me "something" they've read, write it in their book and sign it. If the diary is not completed, they lose golden time, so I have to do it - it feels like a complete waste of jumping through hoops time.
Same here, all my dc's are good readers and I feel judged! Particularly by the young, inexperienced, non-parent teachers who assume that no entries means no reading.
I didn't fill them in past year 2. If my DC's teachers would like to know what they are reading, they can ask them by that point. And we rarely read the schools books. I am a teacher (albeit secondary) and my default position is to make sure we do what the teacher says, but reading for pleasure was what we did at home. Fortunately, the Head was very supportive of that.
We keep the Diary, but only to record what she has read. Both our comments and the Teacher's are increasingly anodyne as DC1 YR2 is reading well beyond her supposed level at school and, consequently, has few (if any) problems with the books, apart from boredom! She has come home with Mr. Majeika, which she is finding more fun but I was rather disappointed to mention some of what I had for her to read, to be met by blank looks from the Teacher. Really, to have not heard of Noel Streafeild?
I write in the diary.....but it may not always be exactly what has been read! DS is a voracious reader- but not of school books. He reads history books, sports books, rugby magazines, The Beano and all sorts of things- mainly to himself (in the car, in bed....).
I write the book and rough pages with "well read" or similar. I only really fill it in as there is a challenge based on number of reads each term. I am buggered if he is going to feel sad because he doesn't read 'enough' for a poxy certificate! I'm sure many children with perfectly completed logs read less than he does.
Oh, as a teacher I'm not keen either- but I have to insist my yr6s fill them in (school policy). I can see the point for littlies though.
Oh and can I ask any teachers out there what is the point of completing a reading log (for children who can already read well)? If the child just has to read x times a week (and this is to encourage relucant children to read more frequently) why won't a single signing of their diary to say they've done this at the end of the week suffice? Why do teachers need chapter and verse about what has beeen read (and I have strong suspicions that it's not even really looked at at my DC's school.)
DD is 8 and in year 4. She keeps her own reading diary as it wouldn't get filled in otherwise! I did keep it in reception, but she is a voracious reader and I can't keep up. I don't think she records half of what she actually reads, but neither I nor her teacher are worried about her reading habits so it isn't an issue.
I've never been rigid about her reading every day either. Usually she does, but occasionally she isn't in the mood and I don't push the issue. Other times, she reads nearly all day. I have always wanted reading to be something she does for pleasure, not a chore to be ticked off. It seems to be working so far!
Honest answer from an ex teacher. If they're reading well, I really couldn't give much of a shit what's in the reading log other than I might make a comment about liking that book myself, or I've read some other book of that authors but not that one - is it any good?
Just get her to bung down the title and page she's got up to if the school are obsessive about reading record books - I was fairly laid back about them on the quiet (wouldn't tell the kids so) with the kids I knew I really didn't need to worry that they were actually reading. And by y6 she really can be filling it in herself as more of a record of where she's got up to or what she thought of the book than the whole 'read well today' thing anyway (although lots of the kids delight in writing about themselves that they read superbly that day!)
I agree you should just get her to fill it in herself. I'm sure the teacher is aware she's a good reader and reads books outside those given by the school too. Just make sure something is written in maybe once per week.
My ds has just started year 3 and his teacher has told us to encourage dc to write in their own reading diaries from now on. Great! I find them a massive pita. I like reading with ds but hate reading diaries. Room 101 for reading diaries
Dd's is handed in once a week, so the day before I get dd to list what she has read and then I sign it. Dd reads constantly as well so it's ridiculous trying to keep tabs on how much she has read on a particular day.
Oh god do you still have to fill these things in Y6?
I don't bother.
DS is 10 and is a good reader. That's enough for me. I'm not stalking him around the house or interviewing him about what he's reading/read.
I'm currently trying to teach him independence. He's just started popping to the corner shop, staying home alone, etc. He can read what he likes, I don't need to know.
Besides, what goes on at home is none of the school's business anyway and I want him to read for pleasure like I do. I'd rather he didn't associate reading with homework. Might put him off!!
If I wanted him to be a public sector worker I'd get him to fill in the sodding log.. talk about a waste of everyones time.
Or maybe a top solicitor in a law firm who has to account for every minute spent on a client's case for the charge sheet?
Filling forms in is a fact of life!
It doesn't have to be that bad, child fills it in with page numbers on a daily basis. At the end of the book they make a brief note of why they liked/didn't like the book, would they like to read more of that author.
It's good preparation for future studying - when you have to analyse what you've read, and prepare yourself to write an essay on it.
You could just put: ' w/c 23 Sept read X book over a number of nights.' You don't need to make a meal of it.
Yep, I gave up with filling in that stuff when DS was in reception. If he wants to read, he reads. If he doesn't, he doesn't. He seems to be doing fine. I do wonder whether I'll be the same with DD though - maybe more, er,
disobedient feisty children need more monitoring!
DS is a brilliant but unwilling reader - school have an obsession with "reading 4 times or more a week" If they read 4 times they get a team point - even if its only been one page.
After the week where he read a few chapters over two days, but didn't get his team point he just reads when he wants and I split up in the log.
Cant say I like it but it's more important that he reads and enjoys it than we force it and he grows to see it as a chore on busy days.
I read all the time, obsessively, it is a disappointment that the children don't enjoy it. I also wonder how good he would be if he was "a reader" - even with his reluctance his reading age is 15 rather than 11.
I just randomly sign them (my handwriting is bad enough that I could be writing anything - ha ha).
MrsRajeshKoothrappali (by the way, can I borrow your husband from time to time? ) what goes on at home is none of the school's business anyway. I also agree with this and feel a bit arsey about school's intrusions. But I feel a bit bad about it too, because the teachers all seem to mean very well (and to some extent it's part of their job to check all's well at home).
ds is year 6 for the last 2 years, since he took to reading for pleasure, he has filled in his log.
I know he reads 2-3 proper books per week, he orders in and reads books from the local library. (eg he read Harry Potter, all 6(?) books in about 2 weeks)
He writes down all that he reads, split over 7 days.
There is a small prize for every time you read 30 times and one of his teacher kept them in to read at playtime if they hadn't read at home (!)
In year 4 he filled it in and I signed each day.
Now in year 6 he fills it signs it and I sign at the bottom of each page.
we gave up writing in page numbers/chapters ages ago. He just writes the name of the book on 4/5/6 consecutive nights, and then name of next book etc.
I wouldn't bother at all (the point is to get them to read and he does, so I can't see the need) except that ds likes to get the prizes and he didn't want to be kept in at playtime.
I can't see a problem, just get her to write in it and sign it.
I don't think we had reading logs after y4, if we did they got lost in the first week or two of year 5.
This was a blessed relief after 5 years of writing ..
DD2 read beautifully and with expression
DD1 still hasn't a fucking clue what's she's doing!
(Ok neither me, the TA, the helpers or the teacher actually wrote that, but it's what our platitudes meant).
DD1 is dyslexic, as absolutely obviously, copy book, tick everything on the check list dyslexic as you are ever likely to meet. It still took until March of Y6 for school to acknowledge this. Despite them and me religiously hearing her read and writing accurate no/not much progress comments in her sodding reading record.
They are a total waste of time and paper.
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