6 yr old playing Grand theft auto

(124 Posts)
peppajay Fri 20-Sep-13 13:57:02

AIBU to think a 6 yr old shouldn't be playing Grand theft auto??

My son has come home from school the last few days saying swear words not in an aggressive way just in the middle of a random sentence. I didn't want to make to much of a fuss about it so just asked him he knew those words from and he said that 'xxxx has been saying it at school' it is on his new x box game.

His mother is a little eccentric and extremely loud but nice enough and I speak to her sometimes at the school gate and at she requested me as a FB friend so I accepted. I logged on this morning and she is bragging about how far xxxxx has got on it and that he was up till 1am last night as she couldn't get him off it. I am completely and totally shocked that any parent would allow a 6 yr old to play this. She has had mixed comments probably more than half saying their kids love it and saying the same as her and others completely against the fact that he is on an 18 game. She says as long as he good at school he has no rules at home, normally I would let it go, each to their own but I don't want her irresponsible (imo) parenting to rub off on my son. AIBU???

No of course YANBU, she sounds like a total dick but short of speaking to the teacher and telling them there is a problem re swearing, there isn't much you can do about it.

Just make sure your son knows not to repeat naughty words, don't really know what else to suggest.

KatoPotato Fri 20-Sep-13 14:00:16

What on earth does she think the massive 18 on the box stand for??

friday16 Fri 20-Sep-13 14:00:50

Some parents are fuckwits, to be avoided. Beyond that, there's not a lot you can do.

cantspel Fri 20-Sep-13 14:03:17

The new GTA is awesome but no way suitable for a 6 year old.

Nothing you can do to stop another mother allowing it thought but i would have a word with the teacher about the swearing and a word with your child that just because someone else uses a swear word they dont have to use it as well and everytime he did use it i would reforce the fact that said word is a swear word and not one he should be using.

ShakeAndVac Fri 20-Sep-13 14:35:29

YADNBU, and I second what Friday16 said. Some 'parents' are fuckwits. She's definitely one of them.

Wuldric Fri 20-Sep-13 14:41:13

DD and I are currently having a battle of wills over Grand Theft Auto.

At the moment, her phone is locked down, her computer, and TV have both been confiscated and her allowance suspended.

This is because she was playing GTA which is not allowed as she is not old enough to play it. When the playstation was confiscated, she found it and removed it. Hence my going nuclear and removing all her gizmos.

When she surrenders GTA, she can have them all back. Not until then.

DD is 15. Any parent allowing a small child to play this game is not fit to be a parent. I don't think you should allow your children to play over there.

I would talk to teachers about the swearing and mention GTA....I imagine that they will be appalled, and may possibly be able to make an impression on her....maybe.

And there's me thinking I am a bad parent for letting DSs watch James Bond.

CustardOmlet Fri 20-Sep-13 14:45:07

Those are grounds to unfriend someone on FB, what an idiot!

Doubtfuldaphne Fri 20-Sep-13 14:53:01

No rules at home? Sounds awful!

JCDenton Fri 20-Sep-13 14:55:42

I love GTA and can't begin to imagine how anyone would think it's ok for a 6 year old. It's 2013, games don't look loke cartoons anymore, Mario and Sonic aren't the biggest names any more.

You'd get a strong enough response on this topic if the kid were 13, but SIX?

I mean, just... what?

gamerchick Fri 20-Sep-13 14:56:12

I would talk to the school about it since he's picking words up there. Tell them where from and how and let them deal with it.

friday16 Fri 20-Sep-13 14:59:12

At the moment, her phone is locked down, her computer, and TV have both been confiscated and her allowance suspended...When the playstation was confiscated, she found it and removed it.

Why do people buy playstations, X Boxes and the like? They're expensive, the games are universally vile, forums of all descriptions are full of parents whining that their children spend too much time on them. Just don't have them in the house. Easy.

Wuldric Fri 20-Sep-13 15:01:04

As soon as DD caves that playstation is leaving the house. Permanently. Never again. Absolutely ridiculous. You are completely right.

Why do people buy playstations, X Boxes and the like? They're expensive, the games are universally vile, forums of all descriptions are full of parents whining that their children spend too much time on them. Just don't have them in the house. Easy.

They are the equivalent to the Atari in my childhood.....and consoles are great if they are used and policed properly. Easy!

JCDenton Fri 20-Sep-13 15:12:07

"Why do people buy playstations, X Boxes and the like? They're expensive, the games are universally vile, forums of all descriptions are full of parents whining that their children spend too much time on them. Just don't have them in the house. Easy."

An entire medium is 'vile'? Really? hmm

livinginwonderland Fri 20-Sep-13 15:15:07

Why do people buy playstations, X Boxes and the like? They're expensive, the games are universally vile, forums of all descriptions are full of parents whining that their children spend too much time on them. Just don't have them in the house. Easy.

Really? How are games like Mario, Sonic, Guitar Hero, Lego Harry Potter etc. vile?! hmm

GirlOutNumbered Fri 20-Sep-13 15:17:42

And the award for stupid comment of the week goes to Friday13.

My son plants flowers and gardens for Pinata on my xbox. Vile?

StuntGirl Fri 20-Sep-13 15:22:44

Ohh Viva Pinata is one of my favourite games ever! Friday13, you are seriously missing out out if you think an entire entertainment medium is vile grin

OP, I would raise it with the teacher and say your son has picked up swear words from a particular child in class and you would appreciate them clamping down on bad language at school. At the same time explain to your son why he is not to repeat those words, and limit contact with the child if you think he's having a negative influence on your son.

GeeTeeEff Fri 20-Sep-13 15:24:37

I don't think anyone is going to say it's ok for a 6 year old to play GTA.

My eldest is 14, he has asked for it a few times this week to buy it with his birthday money. I know he has played it at his friends house so what can I do?

The day it was released this week apparently half his class were off 'sick' from school. Ridiculous.

cantspel Fri 20-Sep-13 15:34:42

I think it is a bit unrealistic to expect a gaming 15 year old not to play or want to play GTA but a 6 year old hasn't a clue about all the hype surrounding the game or even that it exists. He would be quite happy with sonic the hedgehog if that was all that was supplied to him.

JCDenton Fri 20-Sep-13 15:42:16

Exactly, I hope this isn't one of those cases where they're boasting at how far he's got because they think 18 refers to the difficulty, as in board games. Surely nobody really thinks that though?

Surely...

GirlOutNumbered Fri 20-Sep-13 15:46:29

I run a course every now and then for parents, talking about online dangers etc and you would be amazed about how many actually do think the age rating is for the difficulty of the game.

I think the students at school despise me, as most of the parents have now all banned COD etc.
:0)

KatoPotato Fri 20-Sep-13 15:51:02

oh but how can you call Ni No Kuni vile! It's glorious!

phantomnamechanger Fri 20-Sep-13 15:54:03

Did you hear in the news this week about the 3 teens who mugged and stabbed a bloke expressly to steal his just purchased GTA game. They must have been watching people buy the game and looking for a likely victim to follow and attack. Chilling.

This is why parents need to make NO assumptions about what goes on in their kids' friends house and ASK/make it your business to KNOW what they will be doing on play dates and what level of adult supervision they will have. You just do not know how stupid lax some parents are.

OP YAdefNBU

YADNBU, some people are just really stupid unfortunately.

"Why do people buy playstations, X Boxes and the like? They're expensive, the games are universally vile"

<facepalm> Oh dear, if you say so.

girloutnumbered That is a damn good idea! Well done you smile

phantom They nicked his phone & wallet too, so don't know that it was expressly to steal GTA. Seems a little unlikely.

Pinupgirl Fri 20-Sep-13 15:58:34

Its a game-I cant get my knickers in a twist over it. I would be more judgy about the fact her child was up so late on a school night. My lot get to play pc/xbox/play station on weekends only and for 2 hours max.

My dh is currently playing Gta-bought with his birthday moneyhmm-he has muted the sound after I pointed out I wouldn't really want toddler repeating some of the more choice words.

anon2013 Fri 20-Sep-13 15:58:50

6 years old is crazy for someone to play GTA. I'd trust my DS or DD with it if they were 16+ as long as they weren't playing into the small hours and it didn't interfere with school work.

phantomnamechanger Fri 20-Sep-13 15:59:26

some people do genuinely think it is about "cleverness" of their kid playing it, rather than content.

not that long ago a yr2 kid at our school hacked his mums password to access some kind of pay as you play games online - and ran up a debt.

His punishment? Face all over the bloomin local rag and local teatime news - "tee hee silly us, what a clever boy we have" ! [sceptical]

anon2013 Fri 20-Sep-13 16:00:29

everytime a game like this is released there's a story about a mugging. it's midnight in London I imagine muggings like that happen every day sadly.

phantomnamechanger Fri 20-Sep-13 16:00:57

or even hmm

anon Quite.

phantomnamechanger Fri 20-Sep-13 16:02:17

whether the muggers deliberately targeted the man because of the game, I do not know. But I bet they had played violent games of some sort.

muddymarvellousdarling Fri 20-Sep-13 16:04:28

I won't let DS2 have GTA and he's 16.5 yr old.

I know a lot of his friends have it, but not in my house.grin
Half the sixth form were missing the day after it came out. shock

6 yrs is so young to be playing 18 games.

I would have a word with the teacher about the swearing.

FreudiansSlipper Fri 20-Sep-13 16:04:55

no of course not

it is a vile game

cantspel Fri 20-Sep-13 16:04:55

so anyone who plays gta or other violent games is a potential mugger?

phantom Well obviously, because everyone knows violent games are the reason people get violent, that's why there was no violence pre-consoles...

GirlOutNumbered Fri 20-Sep-13 16:06:47

phantomnamechanger - so whats the link?
I play violent video games, but I don't mug people or exhibit any violent behaviors!

morethanpotatoprints Fri 20-Sep-13 16:07:34

No this is not good.
I was just about to say how difficult it can be to completely steer them away from it, but this is ridiculous.
My 22 and 18 yr old ds have it and have been told under no circumstances is dd 9 yr old allowed in the same room.
I went berserk last night as she sneaked in to see it, they hadn't noticed so she was there for a good 5 mins.
It is not for children and they shouldn't be subjected to it imo.
I have the game now and the ds can't have it until she's in bed.
I feel sorry for them as they are grown ups now and Mum is still controlling their gaming. grin

anon2013 Fri 20-Sep-13 16:07:48

Fact of the day. Nobody swore, robbed or murdered anyone before Space Invaders came out wink

cantspel Fri 20-Sep-13 16:07:53

Most of the boys in my sons year 11 got the game on day of release. Not one of them has missed school to play it.

Missing school to play a game is more about the type of parent and their attitude to education rather than a game.

GirlOutNumbered Fri 20-Sep-13 16:08:14

I also think all this 'everyone had the day off' is vastly exaggerated.

None of my 6th form were missing from lesson and I teach ICT/Computing. They were all gagging to get home though.....

phantomnamechanger Fri 20-Sep-13 16:08:27

I'm NOT saying that all who play will become muggers! and yes I know its been done to death on here, but I do think in SOME cases, it does ADD to the desensitising about violence in general.

Orangeanddemons Fri 20-Sep-13 16:08:51

Child protection issue

Pinupgirl Fri 20-Sep-13 16:26:39

Child protection issue? ha ha ha<laughs like a drain>

I must stop my dcs playing soldiers,indians,robbers,power rangers,ben 10,superman,spiderman because they are just too violenthmm

MyBoysAreFab Fri 20-Sep-13 16:32:04

YANBU. When DS1 was about 8 or 9 he had gone to a friends and came home saying he had played GTA. I was livid.

He is now nearly 14 and he won't be getting it until he is 18 and left home! And we do let ours watch and play all sorts of vaguely inappropriate blush

pinupgirl If your kids play soldiers, indians etc in a similar way to GTA then I would stop them. But I presume their games look nothing like this..

^ In this open-world action game, players assume the role of three criminals whose storylines intersect within the fictional city of Los Santos. Players can switch between each character to follow his storyline, completing missions which often include criminal activities (e.g., stealing cars, executing heists, assassinating targets). Players use pistols, machine guns, sniper rifles, and explosives to kill various enemies (e.g., rival gang members); players also have the ability to shoot non-adversary civilians, though this may negatively affect players' progress as a penalty system triggers a broad police search. Blood-splatter effects occur frequently, and the game contains rare depictions of dismemberment. In one sequence, players are directed to use various instruments and means (e.g., pipe wrench, tooth removal, electrocution) to extract information from a character; the sequence is intense and prolonged, and it involves some player interaction (i.e., responding to on-screen prompts). The game includes depictions of sexual material/activity: implied fellatio and masturbation; various sex acts that the player's character procures from a prostitute—while no nudity is depicted in these sequences, various sexual moaning sounds can be heard. Nudity is present, however, primarily in two settings: a topless lap dance in a strip club and a location that includes male cult members with exposed genitalia in a non-sexual context. Within the game, TV programs and radio ads contain instances of mature humor: myriad sex jokes; depictions of raw sewage and feces on a worker's body; a brief instance of necrophilia (no nudity is depicted). Some sequences within the larger game allow players to use narcotics (e.g., smoking from a bong, lighting a marijuana joint); cocaine use is also depicted. Players' character can, at various times, consume alcohol and drive while under the influence. The words “f**k,” “c*nt,” and “n**ger” can be heard in the dialogue. ^

Pinupgirl Fri 20-Sep-13 16:38:40

Its a game-its not real. Kids who watch this are not going to out and start robbing cars or beating people up because its not real life. I presume none of your kids ever watch tv because some of the things you see in kids cartoons are very violent-tom and jerry anyone?hmm

No one apart from odd people are saying it will turn them violent. We are just saying that it's an adult game, suitable for adults and not kids. Tom & Jerry is more Super Mario, GTA is more Saw. Would you show children Saw?

JCDenton Fri 20-Sep-13 16:44:37

Ever played GTA, Pinupgirl? Scarface would be a better analogue than Tom and Jerry.

Pinupgirl Fri 20-Sep-13 16:46:10

My eldest dc loves horror films but no I wouldn't let them watch Saw because its not real horror and its crap.

Btw I wouldn't let a 6 year old play Gta either in the interest of full disclosure but cant abide the pearl clutching horror on this thread.

Pinupgirl Fri 20-Sep-13 16:46:37

No I don't play any console games-they are for children imo.

pigletmania Fri 20-Sep-13 16:47:26

Yanbu at all. Stupid woman!

VivaLeThrustBadger Fri 20-Sep-13 16:50:00

"No rules at home"

That's one friendship I wouldn't be encouraging,

JCDenton Fri 20-Sep-13 16:50:15

No I don't play any console games-they are for children imo.

Well you're quite wrong and the post on the previous page outlining GTA's content is evidence enough of that.

Well there's your problem, they aren't for children, they are for adults.

GeeTeeEff Fri 20-Sep-13 16:51:20

I know a lot of his friends have it, but not in my house.

muddy do you allow him to play it at his friends? I'm the same as you. I won't allow him to buy it but I can hardly stop him from going to his friends and playing it.

Weegiemum Fri 20-Sep-13 16:51:23

My ds is 11.8 and all this week it's been everybody has got GTA! why can't i get it?

So today I phoned his 3 best friends mums (the only ones I have numbers for) and, funny enough, none of them have it and are all saying the same thing - one even told his mum that my ds had it!

Ds is very into his games, and he has one 18 game (so shoot me!) which is The Last of Us - well it's really dh's but he's allowed to play it. His favourite is still Lego Star Wars though. Having the games, whatever they are, is important I think as it's the social glue between boys of their age. We are pretty strict otherwise: 30 mins gaming on schooldays, 1 hr weekends/holidays. The swearing issue hasn't been a problem - the rule in our house is you can listen to the words, but if you say them, you'll be watching Barbie DVDs until the end of time!

It seems to be working so far, anyway. We also have no screens outside the lounge - upstairs, at the table etc, unless we have adult visitors then they can take a laptop upstairs and watch a DVD. We listen to a lot of radio, too. It's great to have slightly older dc who appreciate Just A Minute etc on R4!

It's been a long long time since video games were solely designed for children. Since then there have been some incredible games designed with a purely adult audience in mind.

Weegie Haha I bet, great to call their bluff!

KatoPotato Fri 20-Sep-13 16:57:48

The Last of Us is brilliant!

Really want to try Last of Us, it's on my list to play as soon as I am no longer pregnant. <shakes fist> I miss my games!!

AintNobodyGotTimeFurThat Fri 20-Sep-13 16:59:25

I completely agree with you.

My cousin who has just turned 8 has been playing this for about a year now. I have no idea why his Mum, my aunt, lets him do this but she'd kick off if I mentioned it. She's a lovely woman, just very proud and wouldn't like to be told how to parent, especially by her niece.

But at any rate I'd not be too impressed with someone letting someone under around the age of 15, play these games.

At 15/16 I think it's fair enough. If you are able to have sex and join the army, you can play what you like but at 6/7 years old you really shouldn't know about those kind of things and be shown that these kinds of things are fun.

I despair, sometimes.

I sound old, but I'm only 23...

Talkinpeace Fri 20-Sep-13 17:00:41

I have just allowed my 13 year old to buy it with an amazon voucher from his uncle (SO looking forward to his face when he hears)
BUT
the Xbox is in the family room and DH will be playing it with him
so the time and violence will be in the context of supervision

I will not have Call of Duty in the house
and NO WAY should a child under 12 ever, ever be playing an 18 game

Preciousbane Fri 20-Sep-13 17:00:59

YANBU, DS is not allowed it and he is at secondary school. On his xbox live list of mates online yesterday almost all of them were playing it.

MrsGeologist Fri 20-Sep-13 17:04:17

YANBU, I can't believe people think that the PEGI rating is to do with the difficulty. Actually, I can but it still boggles the mind that some people are that stupid.

Went into Game yesterday and loads of kids kept asking me and DH to buy it for them! Fucking hell..

sewingandcakes Fri 20-Sep-13 17:10:48

YANBU 6 is far too young to play games like that. I would agree that you should tell the school about the language.

"as long as he good at school he has no rules at home": It sounds like she's expecting the school to do all the parenting so that she doesn't have to bother at home.

MrsGeologist Fri 20-Sep-13 17:11:39

Murder, you should have taken their money and bought 'My Pony Mansion for the PC' or something. That'll learn 'em grin

I was sooo tempted, but DH was giving me the look which said "I know what you are thinking and no, you can't" grin

GirlOutNumbered Fri 20-Sep-13 17:17:34

pinupgirl - Average age of a 'gamer'?

34.

See, I think GTA is much much worse than call of duty.

GTA has people taking cocaine, necrophilia, nudity, horrible language, prositutes, sex acts.
I don't see how supervising it makes it any less of an adult game tbh.

My ds1 is 14. That game will not come into my house, ever.

KatoPotato Fri 20-Sep-13 17:20:51

We need complete The Testament of Sherlock Holmes tonight so we can properly get into GTAV.

So far I've managed to steal a small aircraft and rode a jetski around the perimeter of the whole map.

We're 33.

Ok, so the 'violent video games = muggings and shooting' is tired and fucking ridiculous.

I game. DH games. Never felt the need to mug anyone or commit any form of crime.

However, no way in hell would I let a child of mine play GTA. Especially not 6. I've bought GTA5 for DH for his birthday but he will not be playing it in front of DD - I don't care that she's only 1. Fortunately he agrees... either way, as soon as she is able to choose games herself the shooty-shooty ones are going away where she can't find them.

GirlOutNumbered Fri 20-Sep-13 17:23:05

I can't stand it because of the way the women characters are either whores, drug addicts or crazy...
Its profoundly misogynistic.

As for PEGI, I'll say what I said ages ago: romped through Mass Effect on Insanity level. Need the walkthrough for Lego Harry Potter. Have not finished Harry Potter.

Here's a question for fellow gamers if you have babies/toddlers do you ever play in front of them and at what age did you stop if you do? DS is just starting to be aware and like watching games, so we've had to change what gets played while he is awake. Gone are the days of playing with DS fast asleep on our laps.

KatoPotato Fri 20-Sep-13 17:25:50

DS is 3.5. He loved Pikmin3 and Ni No Kuni.

But as for anything more mature, it's strictly after bed!

KatoPotato Fri 20-Sep-13 17:26:44

I remember playing/watching Heavy Rain when he was a newborn, htat was some way to pass the bf times!

GirlOutNumbered Fri 20-Sep-13 17:26:46

We've never played anything violent in front of DS1 and DS2 and they are one and three now, although we do let him play the xbox.
My DSS was playing Halo Wars in front of DS1 (3) and they had a cut scene which was violent). He didn't seem to respond to it at all, but it made me really uncomfortable.
So only the nice games before bed times!

kato I put hours and hours into SW:TOR when DS was a newborn. Was lovely having so much gaming time. Not so much anymore.. now the fun bit is persuading him to go to bed at a reasonable hour so we can fire up the PC/console

MurderOfGoths I used to breastfeed and game at the same time when DD was very small. She's 16mos now and likes the controller far too much, so no gaming when she's about (if nothing else because she's a bit too 'helpful'). When she's older DH is itching to get out the ancient Spectrums/Acorns in our loft and get her doing basic programming on them grin

Oh yes, DS tries to "help", am looking forward to playing games with him when he's a bit bigger. Dying to introduce him to stuff like Raving Rabbids etc.

CeliaFate Fri 20-Sep-13 17:39:06

A child playing an 18 rated game till 1 am on a school night? I would tell the school, they would take a very dim view of that.
She sounds like an idiot to me.

ShakeAndVac Fri 20-Sep-13 17:49:26

They're having a GTA argument over on Nethuns as well. I've given up trying to say what;'s wrong with playing GTA at the age of 8 (which is what the OP is thinking of buying her son - at the age of 8!)
It's not sinking in. Some stupid people out there!

Has anyone linked to the ESRB description on there?

ShakeAndVac Fri 20-Sep-13 18:28:16

Has anyone linked to the ESRB description on there?

No, I don't think so.

peppajay Fri 20-Sep-13 18:29:34

Wow such a response!!!! My son has come home from school today and this particular child was off sick (ummm) so no swearing today. My son isn't great friends with him so hoping it will stay that way have explained to him about the words and that they are not nice words to use and just because xxxx uses them doesn't mean he should. A lot of people have seen her comments on FB and have defriended her, me included. Will see what happens next week but enough of us are now on board and horrified at what we have heard today that we will report it to the school!!

MrsGeologist Fri 20-Sep-13 18:29:40

We had a rule that there was no gaming when the children were awake. That has been relaxed a bit, but only games we are happy with them seeing, so banjo kazooie, viva piñata and minecraft and similar things. In fact, DS1 has become quite a backseat gamer. He made me build a charity shop in my big walled town on minecraft.

CruCru Fri 20-Sep-13 18:31:50

I love GTA (am 35) but it is strictly only for when DS (age 2) is out or in bed. The language is very strong and the violence is extreme and fairly unpredictable - when you start a new mission you don't know if it is going to become very unpleasant very quickly.

I wouldn't play it in front of even new babies.

I would be uncomfortable with even a 15 year old playing - it is much longer than a typical 18 film and much more immersive. Apart from anything else, it's a complete time suck - so easy to start to do a quick 15 minutes which then becomes 2 hours.

GeeTeeEff Fri 20-Sep-13 18:51:17

Can anyone answer my question?

If you do not allow your teen (say age 12 upwards) to play it in your home how do you stop them playing at a friends house? Genuine question btw. What difference does it make where they play it, they're still playing it.

BalloonSlayer Fri 20-Sep-13 18:59:36

Actually LOLed at the righteous proclamation: "and NO WAY should a child under 12 ever, ever be playing an 18 game"

Perhaps they ought to be called 12s then?

BinksToEnlightenment Fri 20-Sep-13 18:59:46

I think after a certain maturity, it becomes counter productive to enforce bans - you only make them more appealing. But six that age ain't.

littlemisswise Fri 20-Sep-13 19:06:16

DS1(18) and DS2(16) went halves on it and have been playing it since it arrived. I have it say I haven't noticed anything on it, about it, because I zone out to these things when I am on my iPad, reading or knitting.
I just asked DS2 how violent it is and he said very because you are a gangster, "but it's not real"!

I am not going to stop him playing it because he will go somewhere else to do it. I don't believe he will become violent or turn into a criminal because he has played it.

However, there is no way in this world that I would allow a 6yo to play it.

I don't believe the stories where everyone was missing from school when it came out either, they were all at DS2's. He has been absent twice this week, one afternoon to see his dad off on a four month tour, and today because he is ill. It never occurred to me they might think it is because of GTA!

They've got FIFA14 on order for next Friday, so it'll all change then!

BombayBadonkadonks Fri 20-Sep-13 19:17:35

re console games being for kids....

total rubbish! I am 36 and play loads! I have the platinum trophies to prove it too.

I would not let my 7 and 4 yo DSs play most of the games I play.

GeeTeeEff I haven't got a teen yet, but not sure there is an answer. You just do what you can I think.

lagertops Fri 20-Sep-13 19:20:47

Ugh, in my opinion, letting a six year old play GTA is a form of neglect. Don't get me wrong, I've loved playing it since it came out, but even I was shocked when one of the missions involved having to take a paparazzi picture of a woman 'getting fucked in the dirtbox.'

Silly bitch, get some sense. It's 18 for a reason.

littlemisswise Fri 20-Sep-13 19:26:24

I just mentioned this thread to DS1 and he said the woman needs to re-evaluate her parenting decisions because "there's some right fucked up shit on it!"

He said it is like an 18 film made into a game.

Orangeanddemons Fri 20-Sep-13 20:33:25

It is a child protection issue. I'm a teacher, it has an age rating of 18, and is too violent for a six year old. I believe it contains sexual scenes.

It is not like kids playing soldiers etc, it has an age guidance for a reason. Do let a 6 year old play it is neglect

cory Fri 20-Sep-13 21:30:15

GeeTeeEff Fri 20-Sep-13 18:51:17
"Can anyone answer my question?

If you do not allow your teen (say age 12 upwards) to play it in your home how do you stop them playing at a friends house? Genuine question btw. What difference does it make where they play it, they're still playing it."

The difference is that they grow up thinking "my parents had a problem with these things. Maybe there was some kind of reason". And if they are generally in the habit of thinking of their parents as fairly reasonable people with some kind of rationale for what they do, they might (as they grow older) consider why they had a problem with a game where you gain new energy points (or so I have heard) by being serviced by a prostitute.

My children are teenagers. They have, by now, a fairly clear idea of how I will react to various suggestions of theirs and what I will think about various aspects of their lives. Sometimes I am more tolerant and laissez-faire than their friends' parents, sometimes I am considerably less so, often there is no appreciable difference. They may not always agree with my pov, they may not always obey me, but at least they know, it is part of the moral package of the household as it were.

Retroformica Fri 20-Sep-13 21:57:53

I would talk to the teacher. It is unacceptable that your son has picked up such bad language from friend. I would tell the teacher what your son said about playing the game and not mention face book.

ghostspirit Fri 20-Sep-13 22:17:03

I let my son now 11 year old play it i think he was 7 or 8 at then time hands up i was a prat i never checked it properly i knew it was for an older child i thought it was just crashing and racing maybe a bit of fighting or something. but then one day he said really aggressively im going to fucking kill you... something like that anyway. i put the game in the bin. i do still let them have ting that are over their age though such as tomb raider

StuntGirl Fri 20-Sep-13 22:51:18

Er, have you seen some of the content in the new Tomb Raider? Very grim.

Some of the comments on this thread are making me roll about laughing. Ridiculous.

For whoever asked, I don't let anyone play games which are rated above their age. I don't have children of my own though hence being strict to the letter when I'm looking after other's children.

Didn't they end up putting a rape scene in the new Tomb Raider?

JCDenton Fri 20-Sep-13 23:51:48

No, there was a big discussion on here with a petition but it turned out to be bullshit. There was a scene in the trailer where Lara is hiding and is discovered by an enemy, he grabs her and strokes her face before she attacks him and knocks him down. If you fail the event in-game, he doesn't rape her, he kills her. There was also a stupid comment by someone in the company about how Lara might go through some trauma like being raped, but there was never a question of making it into the game.

Ah, fair enough. Remembered the fuss, but have never got around to playing the game, so wasn't sure.

BinksToEnlightenment Fri 20-Sep-13 23:59:19

Tomb Raider is really scary. Coming from someone who loves GTA.

JCDenton Sat 21-Sep-13 00:03:37

I recommend getting around to playing it, really good game!

I should do, I loved the originals (mostly I loved locking the butler in the freezer)

StuntGirl Sat 21-Sep-13 00:26:17

The new one is nothing like the old ones sad Still good in its own way but wish they'd make an old school TR.

JCDenton Sat 21-Sep-13 00:27:55

I thought there was enough old style jumping and wandering around wondering what does what while keeping it modernised. Anniversary is a remake of the first game if you haven't played that

StuntGirl Sat 21-Sep-13 00:37:16

Too much combat and not enough isolation and old school style puzzles for me.

JCDenton Sat 21-Sep-13 00:52:43

Fair enough, there was a lot more combat than before!

Paddlinglikehell Sat 21-Sep-13 00:52:49

I play on the Playsation a lot - I'm 50 grin

Love the old TR, would be horrified if DD who is 8 had any inkling about GTA, but I don't have those games in the house.

We often play Bolt or other such games together and because she has always had access, she isn't obsessed, thank goodness.

I wouldn't like to experience GTA myself to be honest.

Zazzles007 Sat 21-Sep-13 00:55:59

Another avid gamer who agrees that GTA is not for a 6 yr old. YADNBU OP, I can't believe this 'mother' allows her 6yo to play such a violent game and then has the audacity to brag about it on FB. Both misinformed and neglectful parenting if you ask me... hmm

For those who have DC, does anyone one use the parental control settings to restrict the content that minors can view? At least that way, you do have a way of ensuring that your DC cannot view something (games, DVDs, web access) that you deem is too mature for them, and is password protected for when the adults want to play grin.

manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/basicoperations/parentallock.html

TootsFroots Sat 21-Sep-13 01:00:07

We are a big gaming family but I will never allow GTA in my house and my adult DCs agree. There are dozens of great games about GTA isn't one of them.
I don't mind COD half as much although I still would let young teens play it. I didn't allow first person shooters of any sort until my DCs were 14/15 ish (can't quite remember) and no 18 games until 17
There is something particularly unpleasant about GTA. I know its fun (for adults) but its a bit sick really.
Give me Bomberman, Marioparty etc anytime grin

My DC didn't play GTA at friends because I told them it was disgusting and I would not allow them to play it. I would allow them to break the rules a bit with other games but not GTA.

Now they are at Uni they still don't play it, they play DOTA (?) COD, halo, mario racing and FIFA and a few others that I can't remember.

ladyjadie Sat 21-Sep-13 01:34:01

My DP and I have been playing this since it came out, and tbh there have been parts that have made me shock, from memory particularly a torture scene that you have to engineer, I've been playing it since gta 3 and while I think it is an excellent game, with so much beautiful detail,funny script, clever development etc, I think it's a bit much for anyone under 15 to play. I know that sounds like a bit of an arbitrary age but that's the cert I would advise, if not 18 (which is the border of sensible/overkill but a good age cert for guidance)

A six year old playing it is just sad and a bit of a sad indicator for what sort of parent they are for A) letting a six year old play it and B) bragging how far they have played. They should be enjoying their innocence not assassinating immigrants or filming teen celebrities taking it up the ass (have played these as missions)

However pinning the blame of violence on these games is ridiculous. Maybe the parents letting children below the PEGI age of these games get used to stuff they should be more mature to understand. But not these games, their developers or producers..

Altinkum Sat 21-Sep-13 07:54:07

Phantom, I don't think children Robbin to buy a game is the issue here, they'd have robbed anyway, I think the parents need to concentrate on their thugs and tier criminal behaviour than worry about a racing game.

"or filming teen celebrities taking it up the ass"

Grim. Hadn't heard about that one.

Cat98 Sat 21-Sep-13 09:02:28

This is something I intend to stand firm on as ds grows up. No way is he going to be playing these sorts of things under my roof, and I will do my damndest to ensure he doesn't play it at friends houses either (though I appreciate I may not have much control over this as he grows).

I was a bit shocked when one of my friends said she allows her 6 year old to play COD (but 'with the sound turned off so it's alright'). I think GTA is so much worse!

Maryz Sat 21-Sep-13 19:32:52

GeeTeeEff, as they get older they understand that there can be different rules in different houses. So we have only had games in this house that are about one age group up - ds2 had 15s games when he was about 13. He is 15 now, and plays ds1's games, a couple of which are 18s.

But his friends have been playing CoD since they were very young. Before he was 12 there were two houses I didn't let him go to simply because that was all they did there. Once he was in secondary I no longer tried to stop him playing in other people's houses, but he still knows I disapprove, and why. And interestingly, he came home this week shocked that one of his friends' ten year old brother is playing GTA this week.

Most of his class got it the day it came out - and I'm amazed by that because of the cost as well as the type of game. For my kids, a £50 game would be a birthday or Christmas present, but other parents seem happy to shell out £50 on a whim.

GTA is the one game that won't ever be in my house - even ds1 knows better than to bring it home - because of the treatment of women in it.

johnworf Sat 21-Sep-13 19:55:25

Clearly this child's mother is about to do some serious damage to her DC. It is NOT game for a 6 year old child.

Strangely enough I was having a discussion with my DS#2 about whether it would be suitable for DSS who is 13 (almost 14) who has asked for it for xmas. He said that some of the missions are in strip clubs and involved naked women, there are drug dealers, he picked up a prostitute once and killed her so he didn't have to pay (?). He is 22 btw! So NO, dss will not be getting this game. Not a chance. And for a small child to be seeing these sorts of things, not to mention the profanity, is just so wrong on so many levels.

dementedma Sat 21-Sep-13 21:12:39

Not huge gamers here but Ds does love all the Halo games. Other than that he likes flying simulators and minecraft. From what I've heard there's no way I would let Ds aged 11 play CTA .

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