To think that you do NOT use naice wine as cooking wine?!

(71 Posts)
MadameLeBean Thu 19-Sep-13 15:53:57

DP polished off the 1/3 of a bottle left of wine that I had treated myself to the night before by POURING it into the STEW

He says if it's not good enough to drink, it's not good enough to cook with.

I say that one does not casually use naice wine in cooking especially if it is the last bit in the house and that if you eat food that has been made with wine it does not make a difference if it is £3 plonk or naice.

Who is BU?

Bejeena Thu 19-Sep-13 16:29:00

YABU - men who cook, particularly men who cook a stew, should be encouraged grin

HeySoulSister Thu 19-Sep-13 16:39:48

which wine was it?

Elderflowergranita Thu 19-Sep-13 16:42:44

YABU. You shouldn't cook with wine you wouldn't be prepared to drink. It does make a real difference.

Though I feel your pain smile.

MadameLeBean Thu 19-Sep-13 16:42:59

I didn't want to say as then there will be a debate about whether it was actually that nice haha

It was £7 casillero del diablo carmenere which is a treat for me (as it is all relative and it was a weeknight and we are not loaded)

Tee2072 Thu 19-Sep-13 16:42:59

You should never cook with wine you wouldn't drink.

He's right. You're wrong.

LovesBeingOnHoliday Thu 19-Sep-13 16:44:01

Sorry but he is totally right yabu

MadameLeBean Thu 19-Sep-13 16:44:18

But to cook with the last bit of it? Surely it is more important that there is wine to drink??!

And I defy anyone to tell the difference in cooked stew! (Between cheap wine and good wine)

nickelbabe Thu 19-Sep-13 16:44:31


if you think the wine is inferior, you shouldn't be buying it.

you use the best wine you can in cooking otherwise it's rank

beginnings Thu 19-Sep-13 16:45:08


Trazzletoes Thu 19-Sep-13 16:45:22

Yep, he's right, sorry.

But I do feel your pain.

Sirzy Thu 19-Sep-13 16:46:05


It makes much more sense to finish off one bottle rather than opening another and having 2 part bottles

MadameLeBean Thu 19-Sep-13 16:46:19

It seems the consensus is against me.. It just seemed like such a waste shock

And I had been looking fwd to drinking it

Is it essential to put ANY wine in stew? Surely not..

Disclaimer: I do not cook smile

Trazzletoes Thu 19-Sep-13 16:46:19

And yes, of course you can tell the difference, just like you can tell the difference if you're drinking it.

WhereMyMilk Thu 19-Sep-13 16:47:54

He's right.

You're wrong.

Sorry, but that is the way it is!!! Cheap plonk in a stew makes it taste nairsty!

thebody Thu 19-Sep-13 16:48:40

what is this tale of left over wine that you speak of?? how does that happen? pray tell.

UnexpectedStepmum Thu 19-Sep-13 16:48:57

Hmmm I'm sure I've read that the whole 'cook with naice wine' thing is marketing by chefs tied into advertising with supermarket chains (like St Jamie). So YANBU!

WhereMyMilk Thu 19-Sep-13 16:49:12

And yes, wine in stew is vair lovely and makes it so much richer-sounds yummy!x

PrincessRomy Thu 19-Sep-13 16:51:13

You'd never put a full bottle in your cooking, would you? So it would be silly to buy a cheap bottle for cooking as then you'd have to drink the rest of the shit wine. I can understand being pissed off there's no more wine in the house but not for that particular 'grade' of wine being used for cooking. Was the stew nice?

MadameLeBean Thu 19-Sep-13 16:52:08

Okay. I'm still not convinced you can tell difference in food. You have all been brainwashed by advertising wink

MadameLeBean Thu 19-Sep-13 16:52:53

Princess but you don't need to use whole bottle at once. Could use it in next nights dinner.

PatPig Thu 19-Sep-13 16:53:02

I've cooked with a full bottle.

And it does make a difference.

5Foot5 Thu 19-Sep-13 16:55:53

YANBU and I disagree with the posters saying don't cook with cheap wine.

Have you seen any of Raymond Blanc's recipes or prgrammes? He always boils the wine before using it to boil off some of the alcohol. Don't know what this is meant to do to the taste but surely if you are going to boil it before using it then it doesn't have to be that good.

PrincessRomy Thu 19-Sep-13 16:56:08

How much wine cooking do you need to do in one week though? Surely would only go in a meat based stew or chilli type thing.. don't want to eat that every night. Even if you do, I still think you shouldn't buy poor quality wine to do it.

PrincessRomy Thu 19-Sep-13 16:56:48

patpig I'd like the recipe for that grin

HeySoulSister Thu 19-Sep-13 16:57:09

well the alcohol cooks off and you are left with the wine it matters. yabu

Blu Thu 19-Sep-13 16:58:04

I would have wanted to actually drink it, had I bought it as a treat, so I am on your side, OP.

It was bought to drink, not to use in cooking, that is the point.

Tailtwister Thu 19-Sep-13 17:00:05

Don't they always say you should never use a wine you wouldn't drink? Saying that, I certainly wouldn't be pouring very nice wine into a stew. Fairly ok wine yes, but not very nice. Would be a waste.

MrsJaqenHgar Thu 19-Sep-13 17:00:21

I'm also of the opinion that if you wouldn't drink it then you shouldn't cook with it. Cheap wine is like vinegar and you wouldn't put vinegar in your stew.

Trazzletoes Thu 19-Sep-13 17:00:46

5foot5 you cook with wine for the taste, not for the alcohol content. So it makes sense then that you use wine that tastes nice, which is generally not the cheap stuff.

PatPig Thu 19-Sep-13 17:01:05

PrincessRomy: brown ox cheeks, chopped onion in a casserole dish, add entire bottle of red wine (it is vair important), beef stock cube, place in oven at 150C until it's nice and soft and unctuous. Sweeten to taste with redcurrant jelly or honey before serving.

PrincessRomy Thu 19-Sep-13 17:06:29

Mmm, sounds nice and easy and something I could use my beloved Le Creuset pot for. Winner!

PatPig Thu 19-Sep-13 17:16:07

I usually put an entire garlic in it too. We eat lots of garlic.

No vampires here.

spindlyspindler Thu 19-Sep-13 17:27:40

My OH only ever adds the wine that we drink with when cooking which would be lovely if he had the patience to cook it off properly before serving. I am more of a user up of odds and ends of wine in stews, myself.

Owllady Thu 19-Sep-13 17:34:51

well i don't think you are being unreasonable at all
I would have chopped his bollocks off to be quite frank

CMP69 Thu 19-Sep-13 17:45:39

I buy a box of decent white and red wine and keep them for cooking
The "good" wine is for drinking grin

ZingWantsCake Thu 19-Sep-13 17:47:43

I always use up corked wine or whatever DH deems not nice enough to drink in my stew or bolognese sauce. (I don't drink)
no-one has ever complained.

filee777 Thu 19-Sep-13 17:49:18

I cook with nice wine

I don't know what make naice is, I've never used it. How good are we talking?

DaleyBump Thu 19-Sep-13 17:53:24

No, YANBU! You have to drink the nice wine while using the shit wine for cooking grin

MadameLeBean Thu 19-Sep-13 18:27:26

Lol Owllady I felt like that I was spitting with rage at the time

ShakeAndVac Thu 19-Sep-13 18:41:51

You are. For having left over wine in the first place. grin

CSIJanner Thu 19-Sep-13 18:47:16

YABU - however as it was your treat for yourself, he should have checked and left enough for a small glass.

Will he go out and buy you another one?

Jacksterbear Thu 19-Sep-13 18:47:32

I once (about 10 years ago) accidently put a £40 bottle of wine (presented to DH as a work leaving gift) into a beef casserole, and have never lived it down! blush

In my defence it was the nicest beef casserole I've ever tasted! grin

thebody Thu 19-Sep-13 18:51:22

I cool with wine but never add to the recipie. grin

Use wine good enough to drink that you like - Aldi has a few new bottles added sub £5 but taste more like £10ers. Port is good too, get it cheaper around Xmas time, makes fab gravy and of couse Nigellas fave, the Marsala.

PlasticCups Thu 19-Sep-13 18:59:03

Would you use cheap meat? You need decent wine to cook with, just buy two bottles next time and hide one.

Men cooking is a turn on better than wine can give you

IcedTeaOneSugar Thu 19-Sep-13 19:03:35

I freeze wine, in single glass portions specifically for spag bol etc. we don't really drink alcohol in the week so it saves having an open bottle hanging around.

I know some of you will be horrified but Nigella does it so it must be OK.

AdoraBell Thu 19-Sep-13 19:04:07

YABU I always use wine that I want to drink as once it's cooked and the alcohol has burned off all that's left of the wine is the taste. 'Cooking' wine makes food taste like rough wine. Drinkable wine = drinkable wine taste. It doesn't have to be expensive, just nice tasting.

Your DH was also BU though, because he didn't ask if you were finished with the wine, which is outrageous behavior IMO.wink

MisselthwaiteManor Thu 19-Sep-13 19:10:18

I made a chicken chasseur with fizzy wine once. Nobody noticed, or at least were too polite to say.

bsc Thu 19-Sep-13 19:10:26

ive found it never freezes properly- perhaps the alcohol content is too high nowadays?
YABU- why would you waste a good wine? Putting it in food isn't wasting it!

XiCi Thu 19-Sep-13 19:12:18

Your DH was right to use good wine for cooking but I don't blame you for being annoyed if you were looking forward to having a glass.

Btw the wine you mentioned is only a bargain £4.99 at bargain booze

IcedTeaOneSugar Thu 19-Sep-13 19:13:33

It freezes like a wine slushy, rather than solidly, so it instantly defrosts when dropped into hot stock.

YABU in general, because it's a great use of leftover naice wine.

However, I find that port is far better than wine for enhancing eg bolognese or casserole, because it adds flavour and richness without adding lots of wet volume.

Grumpywino Thu 19-Sep-13 19:16:38

Yanbu, he would have been wearing the stew for that! I'm no cook, or foodie for that matter, but do love to drink wine and really look forward to a decent glass. Putting it in food is to me a total waste, food is fuel and so quickly devoured while wine should be savoured.

OldRoan Thu 19-Sep-13 19:41:03

IcedTea DP and I have a lovely bottle of (v expensive - Christmas present) red wine one New Year, but we couldn't finish it and there wasn't enough left for us to have a glass each, so I froze it.

When he was working away, I had the most indulgent red wine and mushroom risotto ever using it up. Possibly one of the best things I've ever done with wine.

Meluzyna Thu 19-Sep-13 19:45:44

YABU: believe me, my husband is French and he would never cook or let me cook with wine which was not equally good from a glass. It's all about flavour and if you put nasty wine in your stew, you'll get nasty stew.
However, I do have some sympathy with you if it was a "special" bottle you'd got as a treat..... the stew would have been edible without the addition of wine.... there are other things he could have used for flavour...... Worcester sauce, for example.
In our household we have his bottles and her bottles and neither would touch the other's booze without checking it was OK..... although we mostly share them as a matter of course.

thebody Thu 19-Sep-13 19:46:01

Horry, never thought if using port, interesting and will try that.

MadameLeBean Thu 19-Sep-13 19:51:25

Yeah DP is French so I should have known I suppose!

Also this is the second time he has done it! angry

He did get me another in the end.

I was just surprised as well because my mum only ever used cheap wine for cooking.

I don't think I've ever found wine for much less than £7

MadameLeBean Thu 19-Sep-13 21:22:13

Ah well maybe I am not as classy as some on here but I will drink £5 wine from lidl some of it is quite ok actually. Thing is on a weeknight i would feel extravagant getting £7+ wine. So would not put it in stew!

Pigsmummy Thu 19-Sep-13 21:38:02

Has the word "nice" been replaced with "naice" and I missed the memo or is it a trend??

Tee2072 Thu 19-Sep-13 21:40:39

Ages ago, Pigs. At least as long as I've been on Mumsnet which is coming up on 5 years.

"Naice" doesn't mean "nice" though, it means "slightly expensive and slightly special in a vaguely pretentious way". See "naice ham" as opposed to plastic supermarket ham.

So £7 wine rather than £50 wine (no offence to OP who I am sure will know what I'm getting at).

MadameLeBean Thu 19-Sep-13 22:19:46

Exactly smile

Jux Fri 20-Sep-13 14:27:34

I completely agree with your dp, but sadly can't afford to live up to my standards sad

daftdame Fri 20-Sep-13 14:30:57

Of course you must 'cook' with the good stuff. Its makes cooking more palatable...hic!

Lazyjaney Fri 20-Sep-13 16:18:41

Some cooking wine is more expensive than perfectly good table wine (South of France wine still underpriced vs quality IMO)

Oblomov Fri 20-Sep-13 16:22:26

PatPig: "I've cooked with a full bottle.

And it does make a difference"

Me too wink
I've cooked. With a full bottle. Of wine. Already inside me.
Improved my culinary skills, no end !! grin

I like cooking with wine. Sometimes some even ends up in the dinner.


i'm on the fence - don't use shit wine for cooking because it does make a diff, but don't use up ALL the wine so there's none left to drink!!

And yes - if recipe calls for just a small glass of wine i use port for red and vermouth for white. They last ages in the booze cupboard and you don't have to open a whole bottle if you just need a bit.

Nigella taught me that.

PasswordProtected Fri 20-Sep-13 16:36:42

On the contrary, you should only cook with wine that you would drink yourself.

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