I'm sure I am but it pisses me right off

(118 Posts)
MrsWinklepicker Mon 16-Sep-13 19:34:41

My ILs do not have and have never had a dishwasher. I, on the other hand, would not be without mine. Whenever they come to stay, after having a cup of tea they will go and wash their own cups up, or their bowls after breakfast or whatever. It really gets on my tits. I have a cocking dishwasher, it's going to be turned on anyway to wash up my bowl which you haven't touched, so why wouldn't you just put your things in there. Or, better still, stay out of my kitchen.
aibu to feel a bit stabby?

Teeb Mon 16-Sep-13 19:36:58

Yanbu, it would piss me off too. Hand washing won't get it as clean as the dishwasher so tell them they're wasting time and energy.

cathpip Mon 16-Sep-13 19:38:57

My inlaws and my parents do this, it is annoying!

RhondaJean Mon 16-Sep-13 19:38:59

Yeah my mil does this too and sometimes DH does it and I know I am utterly unreasonable but it drives me fucking INSANE.

My Mum and Dad have a dishwasher but don't use it. angry

JuanPotatoTwo Mon 16-Sep-13 19:40:41

My DF is guilty of this also. I don't know why it annoys me as much as it does, but it does. Then I feel guilty when I see his crestfallen face when I tell him. YANBU.

Oh and drying up. Nobody drys up. Just leave it. angry

daftdame Mon 16-Sep-13 19:43:27

Hide the washing up liquid? Direct them to the dishwasher?

Do you have children? If your children are small have a grandparent child gate that they can't open? If your children are older say you are teaching them to load dishwasher and they need encouragement?

That would SO piss me off too.

It's a territorial thing, innit?
Your kitchen, your rules; and not only are they in your kitchen (how v dare they), they are doing it wrong <<stab, stab>>


I feel your pain.
I have a mother with boundary issues...

Could you say to them in word of one syllable "Please don't wash your crockery, I'd prefer it if you put it here <designated space> and I'll load the dishwasher"

Good luck.
the above never works with my mum
whenever I miss her support, I remind myself of her inappropriate taking over and am at peace again that she lives in a different country from me

Oh my, I did not know I felt strongly enough about this to prompt such a long post... blush

Tommy Mon 16-Sep-13 19:45:04

mine do this too.
I just raise my eyes heavenward and walk away

Gossipmonster Mon 16-Sep-13 19:45:17

My ILS also do this it drives me mental - use the FUCKING dishwasher!!!!

LemonBreeland Mon 16-Sep-13 19:45:59

I no longer have a dishwasher but this used to drive me mad at my old house. I used to hide the washing up liquid when ILs were coming to visit.

Also putting things in the sink rather than straight in the dishwasher.

And yes to drying up MIL always does this and it drives me potty.

MrsHoratioNelson Mon 16-Sep-13 19:46:37

Mine too. Except MIL doesn't actually wash her cups, she just sort of rinses them hmm

So we end up putting them in the dishwasher anyway.

FruOla Mon 16-Sep-13 19:47:20

I guess YANBU to feel a bit annoyed. But .....

..... my lovely Mum, who is no longer with us, always thought that she was 'helping' by washing up the odd cup and teaspoon - she never quite 'got it' when we said to her 'just put them in the dishwasher'.

Oh Horatio 'the rinse'. angry

Ye gods! We don't have a dishwasher and I'd think it was the second coming of Christ if my MIL even managed to put her dirty crap in the sink, let along wash anything up! YBVU grin grin grin

RobotHamster Mon 16-Sep-13 19:48:49

If this is the most annoying thing that your ILs do, you're a lucky lucky person.

Don't let it bother you.

Gossipmonster Mon 16-Sep-13 19:49:13

Off topic but FIL also takes over the remote control. I sat through 3 hours of soaps one eve and was too embarrassed to tell him I don't watch any soaps when he asked me (after the longest 3 hrs of my life) if they were "taking over dear?" hmm.

StuntGirl Mon 16-Sep-13 19:49:21


Am I missing something?

The cups are clean....and either way you didn't have to clean it...who cares?

usualsuspect Mon 16-Sep-13 19:49:23

How dare they wash their own pots up,the bastards.

And you with your fancy dishwasher and all.

daftdame Mon 16-Sep-13 19:51:05

Hmm I have observed the 'rinsing' myself with DM.

I try not to watch a lot of her pottering in the kitchen....Never watch a parent or PiL cook bacon, eggs etc. You don't want to know, or indeed distract, the bacon handed form their tasks ...shudder...tries to erase that episode of 'House' from memory.

littlemisswise Mon 16-Sep-13 19:51:20

We have a dishwasher. We, also, have about 20 of exactly the same white mugs yet DH always, always, always rinses out the mug he has just used to use later! It pisses me off. I am forever shouting saying put it in the dishwasher or we have more than 1 bloody mug! angry

InSpaceNooneCanHearYouScream Mon 16-Sep-13 19:52:09

You lot are mad!!! Dishwashers use 10 times as much water, electricity, loads of detergent, salt and god knows what. What's wrong with washing up by hand??

Nagoo Mon 16-Sep-13 19:53:27

My ILs wash up their stuff when they come over. I think it's quite sweet.

daftdame Mon 16-Sep-13 19:53:46

InSpace Nothing...in theory....

MisselthwaiteManor Mon 16-Sep-13 19:54:01

I think you're being weird, but going by this thread it seems owning a dishwasher does that to a person. grin I wash up in the sink, I do the rinse, I also leave things to soak. In my own kitchen though.

miffybun73 Mon 16-Sep-13 19:54:06

YANBU, MIL does this and it drives me crazy.

Chusband Mon 16-Sep-13 19:54:46

But people who are not familiar with dishwashers are going to be reluctant to touch them. They don't know how it works. They don't know where the cups go and what goes in what rack. They don't know how to open the door.They don't know if what's already in there is waiting to be washed or is clean and needs to be unloaded. They don't know how full is too full.

<wrings hands anxiously>

MrsOakenshield Mon 16-Sep-13 19:56:04

to be fair - they are trying to be helpful! I think you are perhaps a touch U. Just a wee bit.

usualsuspect Mon 16-Sep-13 19:56:24

Would you run a dishwasher with just a few things in it then?

MrsOakenshield Mon 16-Sep-13 19:56:53

Chusband you are so right. There is a dishwasher at work, I don't go anywhere near it. Wash my own mug and stay well away from it.

picnicbasketcase Mon 16-Sep-13 19:57:04

My ILs have a dishwasher, know that we have a dishwasher, and still do this anyway. Have a cup of tea, wash the cup. Cup gets left on draining board. Me or DH come along to load the dishwasher and are so used to just gathering up anything left around the sink area that clan cup gets put in anyway. Waste of water and washing up liquid really.

picnicbasketcase Mon 16-Sep-13 19:59:20

^ Clean cup. We don't have a clan cup.

EverythingIsSoThrowback Mon 16-Sep-13 19:59:34

I know it'd be easier, but I, personally, have a problem with dishwashers.. I prefer doing things by hand.

DuchessFanny Mon 16-Sep-13 20:00:15

My ILs do this too, I don't know why it makes me grit my teeth and mumble under my breath, but it does -- drives me crackers !!

IcedTeaOneSugar Mon 16-Sep-13 20:00:41

My ILs have a dishwasher (we don't) but rinse everything before it goes in, and then run it on a rinse cycle before adding any glass wear and then finally putting the damn thing on.

TBH you could wash, dry an put away in less time.

Apparently this is all essential otherwise the glasses go "milky" this was blamed on BIL until recently for drinking milk in glasses, but the blame has now shifted to the dishwasher.

I'm convinced they don't actually know how to use it properly, but I know better than to get involved.

ThePinkOcelot Mon 16-Sep-13 20:00:41

My ILs and my mum do this. Its just their generation I think. Like someone above said, if this is your only gripe about your ILs then you are very lucky indeed.

daftdame Mon 16-Sep-13 20:00:48

grin I got used to a dishwasher then moved back home when my parents did not have one. I chucked my cup under the sink a couple of times. Just shows what habits can do to you.

NellysKnickers Mon 16-Sep-13 20:01:01

MIL does this too, bless her, we just take the things she's rinsed off the drainer and pop them in the dishwasher, its a bit annoying but not worth the stress.

BinarySolo Mon 16-Sep-13 20:01:10

I do this at my il. They have a dishwasher we don't. I'm trying to help so I do the washing up. I'm probably making mil stabby in the process.

bellablot Mon 16-Sep-13 20:02:04

At least they fecking wash up! I have people come who leave their dirty crockery in the sink angry


SPBisResisting Mon 16-Sep-13 20:03:28

We have a draining board. Since the dawn of time, it has been used to ALLOW CLEAN STUFF TO DRAIN. So why do my ILs insist on putting their dirty cups and spoons on it, rather than on the other side of the sink where stuff gets piled up before it goes in the dishwasher. Sometimes they even move some clean, draining stuff out of the way to do this. I don't get it - do they not see it? Do they see it but feel their way is so much more right?

usualsuspect Mon 16-Sep-13 20:03:48

Why would you wash them again?

MrsOakenshield Mon 16-Sep-13 20:04:33

my mum has a dishwasher but she insists on soaking everything in the washing up bowl first. It has backfired on her though, as it annoys my sister and I so much that we now don't bother helping clear up after a meal.
Wow, just typing that makes me feel stabby.

FriskyHenderson Mon 16-Sep-13 20:04:41

DH puts things in the sink, when the dishwasher is on. Why? Put them on top of the dishwasher ready to go in it, therefore not getting the stuff wet and causing extra bending/carrying of/for the dishwasher-filler

Shutupanddrive Mon 16-Sep-13 20:06:08

Really? They are just trying to help surely? I think your overreacting

whois Mon 16-Sep-13 20:09:20

You lot are mad!!! Dishwashers use 10 times as much water, electricity, loads of detergent, salt and god knows what. What's wrong with washing up by hand??

Bull shit. Use google. They actually use less water and power.

gordyslovesheep Mon 16-Sep-13 20:11:29

I would do this - because I don't have a dishwasher and so am not used to them (I dislike them with a passion) I wouldn't do it to piss you off - I'd think I was being hepful

InSpaceNooneCanHearYouScream Mon 16-Sep-13 20:13:13

I think having a dishwasher does something strange to your brain. Everyone I know who owns one is weirdly anal about it- must be stacked a certain way, can't let anyone else do it, etc etc. Wheras I don't have one, and feel very relaxed about washing up. I don't like doing any, but hey.

InSpaceNooneCanHearYouScream Mon 16-Sep-13 20:16:45

Less water than one bowl of washing up water and less detergent than one squirt of fairy? How's that then? I got a water board leaflet the other day which says a normal dishwasher load uses 35 litres of water, and a washing up bowl is 8 litres confused

sparkling mine too! Drives me insane. It's a half size one too!

My Mum claims that she can't fill it, yet will fill the sink full of filthy plates, leave them until it's full, then fill it with water and 'wash' the plates <<vom>>

CooEeeEldridge Mon 16-Sep-13 20:18:41

Wait till they place items on draining board, then take them and put them in the dishwasher!!! Not passive aggressive at all me!

IceCreamForCrow Mon 16-Sep-13 20:20:36

Oh yes def annoying. I think some people of a certain generation sometimes see washing up by hand as a noble activity and dishwashers as a bit of nonsense.

Not megrin

'Well there's only the two of us' they always say Confused. So? Just use the dishwasher or get it taken out and put a cupboard in that you will use!

They use it once a blue moon when they have visitors but all plates must be thoroughly rinsed, and there is much faff with the loading, and repositioning aplenty. I think they are a bit scared of it TBH.

MrsWinklepicker Mon 16-Sep-13 20:22:26

Don't get me started on the cocking remote control gossipmonster, who on earth can possibly derive pleasure from watching football "live" on teletext (I know it's not called that any more but whatever)? There's 2 hours of my life I not getting back.

Can you tell who's been to stay this weekend...

gobbynorthernbird Mon 16-Sep-13 20:24:46

'The Rinse' sends shivers down my spine. As much as I tell people to leave the mug/glass or pop it in the dishwasher, they insist on giving it a swill with cold water. LIKE THAT IS THE SAME AS IT BEING WASHED.

IceCreamForCrow Mon 16-Sep-13 20:25:44

My mil calls it a 'washing up machine'grin

Fairylea Mon 16-Sep-13 20:28:17

Yanbu. It's a bit smug of them I think... like "oh look we know you have a dishwasher but see you don't NEED one .. look we have washed our dishes ourselves!"

Argh.. I would be pissed off too.

I love my dishwasher smile

ceeveebee Mon 16-Sep-13 20:32:24

My in laws have a dishwasher which is only used on special occasions. They would much rather stand in the kitchen for up to an hour washing and drying by hand. Unfortunately it has rubbed off onto DH who annoyingly will wash our plates and cutlery by hand even though the dishwasher is already half-full of pans and cups. And he never switches it on so every morning I get up to a dishwasher half full of dirty dishes. So irritating

usualsuspect Mon 16-Sep-13 20:32:57

Only on MN could a MIL washing their own cup up be called smug.

This place is bonkers.

Gossipmonster Mon 16-Sep-13 20:34:41

MrsWinklepicker I know - I would not dream of commandeering the remote in someone else's house hmm

fluffyraggies Mon 16-Sep-13 20:41:03

I hate dishwashers. I'd much rather just wash up as i go. Or get someone else to wash up their bits. If every cup, plate, pan and piece of cutlery that got used in our house during the day always got stashed away until the evening, waiting to be cleaned in the dishwasher, i swear there would be nothing left in the cupboards by 4.30!

I do have a dish washer. I have had it for 5 years. It was brand new when we moved in and i have never turned it on. I use it to store my cut glass and Denby grin

CatAmongThePigeons Mon 16-Sep-13 20:42:53

My ILs had a dishwasher before we did, the rules are that dirty plates and cups are left neatly on the worktop above the dishwasher ready to be loaded by whoever lives there, no one else touches the sacred dishwasher.

My ILs are great btw <smug> grin

OHforDUCKScake Mon 16-Sep-13 20:46:34

I do this to my mum. I grew up with a dishwasher, cant remember a time my folks didnt have one.

But having lived out of home for 15 years, Ive never had one (hate them, they stink, make glass smell funny, and wear away the prints), but when Im at my parents I totally forget they have a dishwasher and automatically wash my stuff up.

My Mum does not like this. Oh no.

MrsHoratioNelson Mon 16-Sep-13 20:47:00

InSpace if you can wash 12 place settings plus pans in one washing up bowl of water, then fine. But I won't be coming to eat at your house if that's OK. My dishwasher uses 13 litres per cycle and we never put it on unless its crammed full.

littlemisswise Mon 16-Sep-13 20:48:55

My Father commandeers the remote control to watch the horse racing. He has his Racing Post on his knee and will borrow an iPad or laptop to have the updates from the other races on the table next to him! hmm.

I would never dare be so rude in anybody else's house.

FreeWee Mon 16-Sep-13 20:48:58

My MIL washes things up THEN puts them in the dishwasher. FFS. My life's too short for that shit!

MakeHayIsAWhaleNow Mon 16-Sep-13 20:49:06

I'd love it if someone washed up stuff....but then we don't have a dishwasher grin. However, what would (and does) piss me right off would be them washing their own stuff and leaving everything else.

On the other hand, my in laws actually do have a dishwasher, but mil (and therefore anyone helping clear up - her kitchen, her rules an' all) washes everything up before putting it in there....odd? Surely that's what the machine is actually for? Never understood that one....

MakeHayIsAWhaleNow Mon 16-Sep-13 20:49:33

FreeWee cross posts! I feel your pain....

MakeHayIsAWhaleNow Mon 16-Sep-13 20:51:08

I hatehatehate unloading dishwashers, which is why even if we had money or space for one I'd say no and buy a spinning wheel instead, much more useful

MrsWinklepicker Mon 16-Sep-13 20:54:10

I'm so glad to hear that dishwasher rage is rife in the mn community grin

dietcokeandwine Mon 16-Sep-13 21:03:34

Oh, I'd drive all you lot up the wall grin

I have a dishwasher but only ever use it if I can fill it up and put it on straight away i.e. if we've had guests round and have used enough cooking utensils/crockery etc to fill it completely.

Other than that, we wash up by hand, dry everything up, put it away and wipe down draining board after every meal.

I know it sounds wierd but I could not do the DCs breakfast and just shove a few dirty plates and cups into the dishwater and then leave them to fester there till lunch....and then add more dirty lunch stuff and leave them in there to fester some more till dinner...yuck yuck yuck shock My whole kitchen would feel dirty. I'd hate it. I can't understand how anyone else can do it. When I'm at my parents the sight (and smell) of their half full dishwasher makes me feel quite sick...and it just gets left till it's full and just no no no! If I'm going to put anything in a dishwasher, the machine has to be switched on within half an hour of the first dirty dish going in. If that can't happen, then the dishwasher is left well alone!

<acknowledges that am a bit weird>

(but still prefer to wash up by hand, it's quite therapeutic actually grin)

mrspremise Mon 16-Sep-13 21:03:41

Dishwashers smell nasty angry

Pontouf Mon 16-Sep-13 21:06:01

I LOVE my dishwasher but oh dear God it causes me problems. Well actually no, it's the other bloody people in my life that cause the problems. DH has a very specific anally retentive thing about exactly how the dishwasher must be stacked. Fine, whatever, if it makes him happy. However, he will then put a mixing bowl full of leftover gingerbread mix in the dishwasher without even scraping it out let alone rinsing it, causing all our mugs and breakfast bowls to have baked on gingerbread bits all over them which I then have to wash by hand! angry he does this every time he does baking with DS. Bastard.

The in laws refuse to use the thing. When they stay, they invariably get up from the dinner table and walk away without so much as stacking the plates. On the very rare occasion they do choose to help out they insist on washing up in the sink and do it so badly that it all has to be done again. It is almost as if they think the actual washing of the plates is what counts not whether or not they are clean afterwards. Mind you, their kitchen is fucking disgusting.

InSpaceNooneCanHearYouScream Mon 16-Sep-13 21:07:29

Obviously if you have a dishwasher that's runs an economy setting and you only run it full, then it's reasonably on a par in terms of water consumption. But I think ' I won't be coming to eat at your house' as though we who wash up by hand are dirty cows is a bit shock

ThePonyFormerlyKnownAsTony Mon 16-Sep-13 21:08:42

I think I am these people. I don't have a dishwasher and wouldn't even know how to open one let alone fill it correctly so would always wash up my things (in the sink) when at somebody's house. I never realised I was appearing 'smug' or unreasonable, I actually thought it was polite and aren't dishwashers really expensive to run?

Jeez, every day's a school day.

NeoMaxiZoomDweebie Mon 16-Sep-13 21:09:24

YABU! And nuts! My Mum drinks her tea and then leaves the cup wherever she is sitting! I don't have a dishwasher and they're not THAT clean. I wash my dishes in very hot water thank you very much!

NeoMaxiZoomDweebie Mon 16-Sep-13 21:10:38

Pony you're correct...it's the chip on the shoulder of the OP (oh so proud of her dishwasher) that is the weird thing here....I suspect OP that you feel MIL is not acknowledging your dishwasher enough...is it such a symbol of your success then?

MakeHayIsAWhaleNow Mon 16-Sep-13 21:10:55

pony you are welcome at my house! <gives gimlet stare to pile of washing up mocking me>

MakeHayIsAWhaleNow Mon 16-Sep-13 21:12:21

And my washing up water is crazy hot. I really should wear washing up gloves or stop moaning about my hands falling to bits....

NeoMaxiZoomDweebie Mon 16-Sep-13 21:13:12

Mine is boiling and if my cups are a bit tannin stained then I bleach them! You can't get cleaner than THAT! [kicks OPs dishwasher]

InSpaceNooneCanHearYouScream Mon 16-Sep-13 21:13:42

What neo said

InSpaceNooneCanHearYouScream Mon 16-Sep-13 21:15:20

neo you do realise someone will now scream at you about the bleach residue you must be leaving on your cups grin

jollygoose Mon 16-Sep-13 21:15:44

they are trying to help you, would you rather they sat back and did nothing?

TalkativeJim Mon 16-Sep-13 21:17:18

No dishwasher here... But I am with you on the drying the dishes. They would have dried on their own, and I wouldn't have had to stand over you telling you where every painfully thoroughly dried piece gets put away, and oh, I have four soaking tea towels to dry which wouldn't even have been used, but THANKS for the help hmm

Secretswitch Mon 16-Sep-13 21:17:30

My dishwasher broke about two years ago. We have no money to repair or replace the scum sucking demon. I don't miss it.

EugenesAxe Mon 16-Sep-13 21:24:18

Sparkling - yeah! Unless you need the space to stack other dishes, don't fucking dry up! Air is loads more hygienic than any tea towel...

This would also annoy me, by the way OP.

rubyflipper Mon 16-Sep-13 21:25:32

My MIL (bless her) doesn't put anything in my dishwasher. Instead she 'helps out' by doing the washing up by hand. But she is so awful at it - uses lukewarm water that hasn't been changed, doesn't rinse anything - that the dishes are still filthy and I still have to wash it myself.

Drying up makes my skin crawl Eugene, I know someone who dries up the stuff out of the dishwasher. confused

sherbetpips Mon 16-Sep-13 21:27:35

Yup my MIL does that. Pisses me off no end but god knows why!

MrsWinklepicker Mon 16-Sep-13 21:30:09

No no no no no no no Neo, def not that (also please note this is a light hearted thread). I don't think I would feel so stabby if they washed everything up (although would still think why not use the machine), but very weird to just wash up your own cup, no?

sherbetpips Mon 16-Sep-13 21:30:40

Oh and the drying everything instead of leaving it on the rack. Then just leaving items scattered all over the kitchen because she doesn't know where to put them. Leave them on the bloody rack then!!
Oh and wiping down the tips with a dirty damp cloth and no soap/spray especially after prepping dinner and raw meat!

sherbetpips Mon 16-Sep-13 21:32:07

Tops not tips, could have been worse

mycatlikestwiglets Mon 16-Sep-13 21:39:16

YANBU - my in laws also do this, yet they have a dishwasher so should know the rules! I know it's totally irrational but I have a little rant under my breath every time I find the "helpful" washing up they've done and left for me to put away.

pixiegumboot Mon 16-Sep-13 21:40:40

what's with a washing up bowl? filthy things, just fill the sink with water. and while you're there clean the bloody tea cups properly in HOT water so the stains come off fgs!

Tilly333 Mon 16-Sep-13 21:43:01

Not just mine then .... and WHY WHY WHY (whilst we're at it) do they put the 'odd' knife or teaspoon in the empty washing up bowl!!! I have to retrieve it and put it in the washer (and touch the odd 1/4 inch cold water) ugh ugh! WTF!!!

themummyonthebus Mon 16-Sep-13 21:45:05

I taught my parents how to stack the dishwasher. It's backfired though as every time I put it on they manage to open it halfway through the cycle to put in another teaspoon, but not notice everything is dripping and steam is coming out so don't restart it.

So we get up to a dishwasher full of dirty plates and pans and end up having to do the washing up by hand so we've got something clean to eat breakfast out of.

<<stab stab>>

RobotHamster Mon 16-Sep-13 21:46:01

Why are washing up bowls filthy confused

MrsHoratioNelson Mon 16-Sep-13 21:47:07

I'm not suggesting that washing up by hand is unhygienic. I'm saying that its not a fair comparison. You can't do the washing up of a fully loaded dishwasher (especially taking into account a change of water eventually, rinsing - you do rinse, don't you??) with one bowl of water.

usualsuspect Mon 16-Sep-13 21:53:07

Competitive washing up grin

Loving the PA 'you do rinse don't you'

MacaYoniandCheese Mon 16-Sep-13 21:57:32

Think you are being U. Lots of people don't have dishwashers and/or view running them as extravagant. It is also a well known fact that dishwasher owners are very particular about the way dishes are pre-treated and loaded <looks around accusingly and at self in mirror>. I think they are trying but failing to be helpful.

Slightly irrelevant story: I've had dishwashers my entire adult life (so I know how to use one, fgs) but this summer we rented a cottage with one in and we broke it because we weren't familiar with the controls of this particular model blush. Am now slightly wary of all unfamiliar dishwashers

BlackeyedSusan Mon 16-Sep-13 22:01:39

i do not have a dishwasher. i would be ecstatic to leave my mucky pots in one where I was visiting. guilt free mucky pots.

oh and I do think running dishwasaher is extravagant nad mybe not so environmentally friendly, (well, I have to console myself somehow) but using extra water to hand wash pots when you are going to wash them anyway would be worse.


MmmmWhiteWine Mon 16-Sep-13 22:05:42

Only on MN could a MIL washing their own cup up be called smug


InSpaceNooneCanHearYouScream Mon 16-Sep-13 22:06:49

mrshoratio of course I see what you're saying- but I use only one nearly full bowl of very hot water for most meals, with about 2 litres of water in the half bowl for rinsing. For a huge amount of washing up I change the water and use another half bowl. And my dishes are perfectly clean. And I don't have to buy expensive dishwasher tablets and spend extra money on electricity to run it. And! If you don't rinse stuff before putting it in the dishwasher [using more water] you end up with welded on crap all over everything. Bleugh

InSpaceNooneCanHearYouScream Mon 16-Sep-13 22:09:11

usualsuspect grin

FixItUpChappie Mon 16-Sep-13 22:09:40

I can't be arsed to looked at the whole thread but YABU. My stay with us for long periods of time (problem a) and just hoist their dishes on the counter without so much as rinsing them off (we have a dishwasher too). I'd much rather they cleaned up after themselves.

MrsHoratioNelson Mon 16-Sep-13 22:10:45

Well we'll have to disagree. I'm glad you rinse when waking up, DH doesn't when he does the nice glasses that are too tall for the dishwasher and it drives me mad.

I don't rinse before loading the dishwasher and everything comes out clean. Dishwashers rinse before they start the main cycle anyway, so there's no need.

Gossipmonster Mon 16-Sep-13 22:15:20

Only on MN - five pages discussing washing up grin

InSpaceNooneCanHearYouScream Mon 16-Sep-13 22:16:51

Well mrshoratio you've very nearly convinced me. Now, what can I chuck out so I've got room for a dishwasher.....

DameDeepRedBetty Mon 16-Sep-13 22:29:29

We call ours the Dirty Cupboard.

It's a small one, nine settings rather than 12. DP doesn't fully understand how to load it despite being shown a dozen times and sometimes if I'm back late and he's done tea, I find he's helpfully decided to make a start on the washing up. He will have done the glasses, mugs and plates and left them to airdry, leaving the pots, baking trays etc nicely congealing in cooling greasy water. And because he's fifty-something and needs reading glasses for close work, but doesn't put them on to wash up, the plates and glasses are still actually dirty.

Using the principle of pick your battles I've currently given up on this one... I have nearly trained him to sort the recycling properly, it's only taken a year and a half.

ThisWayForCrazy Mon 16-Sep-13 22:37:00

Jesus, really? You need something more in your life

MrsHoratioNelson Tue 17-Sep-13 07:53:01

Glad to hear it InSpace

My work here is done <accepts fiver from the British Dishwasher Council>


MrsBW Tue 17-Sep-13 07:57:08

The Eco mode on our dishwasher uses 6L per cycle... Less than a washing up bowl

I get stabby when DH washes things by hand... Total waste of water.

MrsBW Tue 17-Sep-13 07:59:58

Inspace... I get what you're saying about cost of elec and dishwasher tabs.

Tabs always on offer though ... Just bulk bought 200 on Groupon for £20

The dishwasher is A+++ (i think) rating, so not worried about elec.

The time it saves is ridiculous. Only bought it 2 months so and it's changed my life.

InSpaceNooneCanHearYouScream Tue 17-Sep-13 11:44:30

Ok.... Now I really want one

SybilRamkin Tue 17-Sep-13 14:07:59

My MIL actually washes dishes before putting them in the dishwasher! It drives me bonkers! Do one or the other but there's no need for both! I think she's taken pre-wash rinsing to the extreme.

I know it's totally none of my business how she conducts her kitchen life, but it still gives me the unreasonable rage!

Pinkpinot Tue 17-Sep-13 14:13:02

My mil will keep and wash one cup
My parents have so many cups of tea that I run out of cups, so sometimes is rather they washed up

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