To think my neighbour is a snob, and a very strange one at that?

(221 Posts)
Bluemonkeyspots Tue 10-Sep-13 15:37:57

My car is in the garage today for a service so told dd this morning she would have to walk home, not a problem she does this most days anyway. Sat earlier and I see my neighbour driving into our street and dd is in the car so I go to the door to check everything is ok and this is the conversation that followed

Me- "hi, everything ok"

Neighbour- "yes fine, dd just wanted a lift home in a BMW today grin"

Me- "sorry?"

Neighbour- "yes, since you were not there at pick up dd thought it would be nice to get a lift in a BMW"

Me- "dd, did you want a lift in a BMW?"

Dd- "what's a BMW"

Neighbour- "aahhhh come on now dd, it must have been nice sitting in a BMW?"

Dd- (looking totally confused) "yes, thanks for the lift home"

Me- "thanks for that"

Then she smiled and walked off.

Was lovely that she offered dd a lift as it was starting to spit rain but was this really such a treat.

To put it into context a bit my car is average but only six month old, the BMW in question is very old (nothing wrong with that my last car was old) but I feel I'm missing something by neighbours attitude.

missmargot Tue 10-Sep-13 15:43:14

Reminds me of the episode of Friday Night Dinner with the neighbour obsessed with her Mercedes. Very snobbish and rather odd.

I'd just see that as a bad joke

It's the sort of thing I'd say to a stranger (have poor social skills) blush

grin Its quite funny tbh.

WestieMamma Tue 10-Sep-13 15:43:57

My old neighbour used used to leave for work looking very smart in his business suit with briefcase in hand. Problem was he worked in the same factory as my brother as a security guard. He changed into his uniform at work and the only thing in his briefcase was his sandwiches. His wife used to tell us all he worked in the legal profession. grin

pensandpaperclips Tue 10-Sep-13 15:43:58

Lmao.

Nothing personal, but I don't get it either. The only opinion I have of BMW's goes along the lines of they often have fecking annoying over-bright headlights when it's dark and are often driven by very impatient tailgaters.

SilverStreak7 Tue 10-Sep-13 15:45:05

LOL .. Perhaps she is being paid for using BMW in every sentence .

usualsuspect Tue 10-Sep-13 15:45:42

That's quite funny.

Especially the 'what's a BMW' comment grin

FayeKorgasm Tue 10-Sep-13 15:45:46

Do you live next door to hyacinth bucket??grin

yegodsandlittlefishes Tue 10-Sep-13 15:46:02

How old is your DD?

Yes, I do think that is weird. But it sort of depends on how well you know the neighbour. Does she have children the same age at tge same sxhool? (If not, what was she doing there?)

WafflyVersatile Tue 10-Sep-13 15:47:19

grin

Ah, gwan, gwan, gwan, you must have liked having a lift in a BMW. Oh, to be sure you did. It's a BMW.

I guess your neighbour really likes BMWs and thinks everyone feels the same.

Callmedreckly Tue 10-Sep-13 15:48:20

Did she "accidentally" drop her Skiing & Cruise Bro-Shurs in front of you grin

FatOwl Tue 10-Sep-13 15:55:22

My MIL is a bit Hyancith Bucket.

She makes out she is very very upper middle class.
The first time dh took me to meet her it was all china tea cups and cucumber sandwiches.

DH did a load of family research and found out her family were all coalminers from her grandfather back, including several criminals who served time and one that was transprted to Australia! She didn't believe him and refused to look at the research he had done.

The only thing she will tell you about her family is that her great aunt married the cousin of the family who used to own Dewhurst butchers!

Bluemonkeyspots Tue 10-Sep-13 15:56:52

Dd is ten, her dd is at the same school and the girls often play together plus our dh's work together but I don't know the mum apart from to say hi to. Before anyone gives me a row for dd getting in the car we live on a military base where everyone does this kind of thing for each other, although I feel like I'm now cheating other dc out of something special as I don't have a BMW!

lougle Tue 10-Sep-13 15:59:50

Aww sad I don't think she was being snobby. I agree with LaurieFairyCake - she was probably just saying something to break the ice and then couldn't get out of it.

usualsuspect Tue 10-Sep-13 16:00:21

Give her DD a lift and go on about how she wanted a lift in a brand new car.grin

Tee2072 Tue 10-Sep-13 16:06:21

But it was BMW! How can you not be impressed!

I love you're daughter "What's a BMW?"

Facebaffle Tue 10-Sep-13 16:14:10

grin

I have a friend like this who constantly refers to her car as "The Audi" rather then just a car confused

angelos02 Tue 10-Sep-13 16:24:27

'The Audi'! Love it.

I usually find it is people that didn't have much money growing up that are like this...exactly like Hyacinth Bucket.

Panzee Tue 10-Sep-13 16:26:07

My dad has a BMW. It's lovely and comfy. Even in the back. smile

Turniptwirl Tue 10-Sep-13 16:26:36

Bad joke but well meaning neighbour! I wouldn't judge their snobbery unless I had more evidence (any other brand names they keep dropping OP?)

mrsjay Tue 10-Sep-13 16:28:04

I love that your dd said whats a BMW grin I had a neighbour who had alittle convertable but I dont think it was a swanky one ( i know nothing about cars) anyway the neighbour said oh it is lovely to have the top down her little girl piped up no it isn't it is silly mummy mummy why are you silly

I have a fb friend who puts her BMW picture up in facebook once she has washed and polished it, with things like gleaming all ready for the sunday drive, maybe it is your neighbour grin

mrsjay Tue 10-Sep-13 16:28:04

I love that your dd said whats a BMW grin I had a neighbour who had alittle convertable but I dont think it was a swanky one ( i know nothing about cars) anyway the neighbour said oh it is lovely to have the top down her little girl piped up no it isn't it is silly mummy mummy why are you silly

I have a fb friend who puts her BMW picture up in facebook once she has washed and polished it, with things like gleaming all ready for the sunday drive, maybe it is your neighbour grin

Pagwatch Tue 10-Sep-13 16:28:45

I call my car the mini. Dh calls his car the shitheap.

Beastofburden Tue 10-Sep-13 16:30:28

Probably is a car obsessive, doen't necessarily mean she would be snobby about other things. Some people do care about cars, my BIl does, and although he is a nice bloke he honestly thinks that other people are interested in/impressed by his choice of motor vehicle [hmmm]

SubliminalMassaging Tue 10-Sep-13 16:31:47

Hahaha this is so funny! What a loon! she did do a nice thing for your DD though, even if her motives were a bit odd.

Gunznroses Tue 10-Sep-13 16:31:49

This has made my day grin

mrsjay Tue 10-Sep-13 16:31:56

my uncle had the jag for a wee while until he couldnt afford to put petrol in the jag

CatAmongThePigeons Tue 10-Sep-13 16:33:06

grin at What's a BMW.

What car do you have OP? <Nosy>

Beastofburden Tue 10-Sep-13 16:36:27

snort mrsjay I also know someone who only ever refers to "the jag" and not "the car".

the fact that he leases it, as he has no job, house or savings is irrelevant grin

NotTwelve Tue 10-Sep-13 16:36:57

I remember an old school friend whose family got a BMW. It was no longer possible for them to go anywhere in 'the car', it was always in 'the BMW'. If anyone left the house it was necessary for other family members to establish whether they were taking the BMW.

Perhaps it is a requirement?

Beastofburden Tue 10-Sep-13 16:38:00

There is also the subset who refer to "the Beamer".

usually its a way of making sure people realise you have several cars (one for the nanny, obv, and then one each)

XBenedict Tue 10-Sep-13 16:39:44

We have a BMW, it shall now be known as ............the blue car, same as usual! Love the "what's a BMW?" Question, just fab grin

Calabria Tue 10-Sep-13 16:39:57

Years ago an old boss of mine bought a second hand BMW. Every conversation with every customer started "So what car are you driving. I have a BMW 5 series".

I had to conceal a smirk when the thing started to rust very badly.

Pagwatch Tue 10-Sep-13 16:42:12

I haven't heard anyone use the 'Beamer' since about 1990

<nostalgia>

NotTwelve Tue 10-Sep-13 16:42:28

Imagine getting all name droppy about your household stuff. I just need pop some wine in the SMEG.

mrsjay Tue 10-Sep-13 16:44:53

*snort mrsjay I also know someone who only ever refers to "the jag" and not "the car".

the fact that he leases it, as he has no job, house or savings is irrelevant *

plenty of time to polish the jag i spose wink

Uncle now has a nissan something or other it is just the car hmm

mrsjay Tue 10-Sep-13 16:44:53

*snort mrsjay I also know someone who only ever refers to "the jag" and not "the car".

the fact that he leases it, as he has no job, house or savings is irrelevant *

plenty of time to polish the jag i spose wink

Uncle now has a nissan something or other it is just the car hmm

justanuthermanicmumsday Tue 10-Sep-13 16:45:27

I'd be chuffed to bits assuming I knew the neighbours well it was a nice gesture. I don't think she was being snobby just proud of her car wonder if she's got a name for it some folks name their cars don't they lool

SixPackWellies Tue 10-Sep-13 16:46:14

See, that is funny and i would not have batted an eye at it. We call our car 'The Nissan'. As in 'Come on DC, we are going in The Nissan'. It is because DS is obsessed with car makes. When he tantrums (he is 3 I might add) the only thing that gets us out of Morrison's fairly quickly is 'Come on, let's go in The Nissan'.

I don't think that sounds particularly strange, but maybe it is. [double thinks everything I have said or done lately]

XBenedict Tue 10-Sep-13 16:47:10

Oh for goodness sake, I can't abide all this snobbishness, I'm off to Miele the carpets and then load the Bosch with the dirty dishes.

Sent from my iPad mini wink

Beastofburden Tue 10-Sep-13 16:48:56

XBenedict, Oh dear, is it your cleaner's day off?

(specially hates people who refer to "my cleaner" as if "my dog", people who work in your house have NAMES ffs).

Beastofburden Tue 10-Sep-13 16:50:09

ps it is me, but I never quite trust people with really clean cars hmm

Bluemonkeyspots Tue 10-Sep-13 16:51:24

It gets weirder!

Dh has just phoned to ask if dd enjoyed her lift in the BMW today!

I'm going "eh?!?!, how the hell do you know" and he says the husband had seen him at work and told him about dd's ride "in the BMW"

Either I have slipped further into that weird universe or dh is checking up on my mumsnet posts!

He was as confused as I was though!

XBenedict Tue 10-Sep-13 16:51:52

grin

SixPackWellies Tue 10-Sep-13 16:52:18

Yes but what if other people don;t know the name of your cleaner, beast. Would you say 'Oh sarah is coming on friday' and leave your audience wondering who Sarah was?

[I don't trust people with clean cars either.]

SixPackWellies Tue 10-Sep-13 16:53:24

OP, okay, yes your neighbors are weird. I think that is pretty weird.

Pagwatch Tue 10-Sep-13 16:53:36

I called my first car Hamish. That was probably weird.

We call the cars something to each other because we swop them. But I call it 'the car' if I am talking to someone else.

FrussoHathor Tue 10-Sep-13 16:54:34

Stuff the BMW I'd be more worries about my dd getting into someone else's car without prior arrangement.

PigletJohn Tue 10-Sep-13 16:54:56

sounds like I'd better take the pictures of both my Bentleys off facebook blush

Beastofburden Tue 10-Sep-13 16:55:36

So the wife rang her DH at work to convey this life-changing news? isnt her Dh busy, then? I can just see my DH if I rang him up about who got into what car when...

And then, even if DH's colleague had told him at work, why would he assume you should care?

Truly odd. Wonder why she is so proud of a car, its a bit sad really.

piratecat Tue 10-Sep-13 16:55:52

ha 'what's a BMW'

bizarre, it would be justified had she come home home in a helicopter.

SixPackWellies Tue 10-Sep-13 16:56:41

See, if i had a Bentley, i would just modestly call it 'the car' and expect people to know and appreciate that I am being modest. grin

[drool... bentley]

littlemisswise Tue 10-Sep-13 17:00:09

What job does your DH do on a military base? Mine is too fecking busy to make phone calls about rides in cars. If I want him it's ring at lunchtime and hope to god he will notice a missed call on his phone. If I rang to say I had given a kid a ride in my car he'd think I'd lost the plot!

But your neighbour is odd!

WafflyVersatile Tue 10-Sep-13 17:00:26

grin

Amazeballs. Never mind your dd's treat, this is obviously the best thing that has happened to your neighbours all year!

Beastofburden Tue 10-Sep-13 17:01:57

Sixpack, you'll notice I am not mentioning what car I have, cos I am so modest and do not wish to humiliate you all.

(actually, we have no car...)

Bluemonkeyspots Tue 10-Sep-13 17:03:47

Aww littlemiss your dh must be much more important than mine in the military wink

littlemisswise Tue 10-Sep-13 17:06:56

No need to be snippy, bluemonkey! DH isn't allowed his phone at work, there is often no signal in the building he works, and even if there were he wouldn't be ringing me to ask me about lifts in neighbour's cars!

squeaver Tue 10-Sep-13 17:08:59

This thread is making me lol.

An annoying mother at school once told me she was moving near us to "X Avenue". "Oh, that's nice" said I, politely. "Yes, the house is more than we wanted to pay but it is ^X Avenue^", she said and then went on about it being the "premier road" in our area.

Honestly, it's a street that looks exactly the same as all the other streets around here.

Hulababy Tue 10-Sep-13 17:26:08

My little car has a name - DD names it Bubbles as that's what she thinks it looked like. It is useful though - differentiates between which car I am taking (Bubbles or the bigger one). Useful esp as one car only seats 4, the other 5 so makes a difference it I can or can't pick friends up, etc.

DH's (or the family car as not really supposed to be his/hers here) car doesn't have a name - we are replacing the bigger one next Monday, maybe Dd should name that one...

Is naming a car really that bad?

LadyClariceCannockMonty Tue 10-Sep-13 17:30:29

Christ, the woman and her DH are as weird (as well as snobbish) as each other. Have they nothing much to do?

'What's a BMW?' grin grin grin

Preferthedogtothekids Tue 10-Sep-13 17:33:36

My parents used to have a holiday villa in Florida. Everyone shop assistant/salesperson/doctor/nurse/dentist/neighbour/binman/postman etc had to be told at any opportunity by mother. She was so skilled at turning every conversation towards how she 'had recently seen/done/tasted whatever during her trip to her 'villa in Florida'. Drove me nuts.

They lost tons of money in the US recession and handed the keys back into the bank. Strangely that has never made it into any conversation with a stranger.

NeoMaxiZoomDweebie Tue 10-Sep-13 17:33:38

Because I have NO idea what any car is, I am always missing moments like this....I get into a bucket as happily as a Rolls apparently and with the same amount of reverence for each. If it's got wheels and goes, then I am thrilled.

Owllady Tue 10-Sep-13 17:34:36

grin at this

Wuxiapian Tue 10-Sep-13 17:34:47

Poor woman needs to be pitied.

BalloonSlayer Tue 10-Sep-13 17:37:33

A friend of mine was on a course and she got talking with a bloke over the group dinner, as you do, about cars.

They disagreed about cars. He said a car was something really important, that said something about you, and was something that you should be proud of. My friend said she disagreed, a car was something to get you from A to B, no different from a washing machine, said nothing about you as a person, and that she thought people who were proud of their cars were odd.

The guy went on to use his car as an example. I have a great car, he said, a real prestige car, I'm really proud of it and it makes a statement about me. My friend said: well I have an old shit heap and I don't care about it or what it says about me; it gets me where I want to go and I don't care that it's crap.

On the last day of the course they walked out to the car park. They had the same car. grin grin grin

pianodoodle Tue 10-Sep-13 17:37:34

Lol

My in-laws have two cars and one is a BMW but they always say "shall we take the car, or the BMW?"

So is the BMW not a car then? grin

NoComet Tue 10-Sep-13 17:47:01

DD2(12) would like a lift in a BMW, she likes lifts in Mercs, 4X4's, especially if grandpa goes off road and various friends people carriers. It's just my focus that's boring.

babyicebean Tue 10-Sep-13 17:53:45

I used to look after two boys who were at private school and their dad put me on the insurance for their Mercedes. I was looking forward to driving a decent car but his boys wanted me to take them to school in my neon yellow fiat. I suggested their dads car, I then suggested that I parked around the corner and we walked the last bit but they insisted I drove it into the parking area. I think it was worth about the same as a tyre on one of the other cars but apparently it was the height of cool. I was in a sea of jags, mercs, bmws and Daimlers with my yellow car.

MrsLouisTheroux Tue 10-Sep-13 17:58:46

Ha! I also know someone who refers to their car as 'the jag' !!!

Gruntfuttock Tue 10-Sep-13 18:03:27

Come on you lot! It's blatantly obvious that the OP only wanted to boast that she actually knows people who own a BMW! shock

Wow! OP I am faint with envy. Your daughter is sooooooooo lucky!

wink

Seriously though, I think the neighbours must be a bit bonkers I lied about the 'a bit' bit but it was nice for your DD to get a lift home.

RiffyWammal Tue 10-Sep-13 18:03:34

I once spoke to a mom I met at the school gate. I asked her where she lived and she replied 'I live in a David Payne home!' and obviously expected me to be impressed, but instead I replied bemusedly 'er, ok, but where do you live?'. I'd never even heard of David Payne homes, much less formed an opinion on how desirable they were!

You have to pity these kinds of people if they derive their self esteem from their possessions.

MrsLouisTheroux Tue 10-Sep-13 18:05:10

What is a David Payne home?!!

mignonette Tue 10-Sep-13 18:05:16

Drug dealers Car....grin

RiffyWammal Tue 10-Sep-13 18:11:23

What is a David Payne home?!!

Exactly! <pronounced as per the old Accrington Stanley advert>

From what I can gather, they were kind of like local Wimpy homes or summat. Nothing spectacular anyhow. But I lived in a council house so she probably expected me to shit myself with envy.

PigletJohn Tue 10-Sep-13 18:11:24

AFAIK, everyone says "the jag"

Bluemonkeyspots Tue 10-Sep-13 18:21:12

"Shit myself with envy" grin

Do you think I should go ask for a shot inside the BMW then do exactly that?

Merlotmonster Tue 10-Sep-13 18:22:28

he he..this thread has made me laugh...someone earlier mentioned clean cars and not trusting these people...my husband is so obsessed with 'the Alpha' that he's getting twitchy about the dew that descends now its Autumn and even hoovers stripes into the carpet like a lawn!! nutter...<hes going to freak when I start using it to go up the yard = MUD! mwa ha ha> grin

LeonieDeSainteVire Tue 10-Sep-13 18:25:11

I always refer to my car as 'the Maserati'

sadly it's an old Toyota

MissManaged Tue 10-Sep-13 18:33:58

Some idiots- people just can't help themselves.

I know someone who is actually quite a nice person at heart, but is incapable of referring to her DH as anything other than "my husband, the Colonel".
In full. Every single time.

I was always stumped, but can finally hold up my end of the conversation because I now have "my ex-husband, the arsehole" grin

RevoltingPeasant Tue 10-Sep-13 18:34:33

I call my car The Royal Chariot. With capital letters, like that.

It is a 3rd hand Yaris with a paint job which I may have slightly touched fucked up myself, but I have my pride.

I am now going to walk over the hardwood flooring into the kitchen, take the Taste the Difference salmon out of the Bosch and cook before my husband gets home in his company car.

#livingthedreaminsuburbanplymouth

idococktailshedoesbeer Tue 10-Sep-13 18:39:05

"What's a BMW?" hahahaaaaaa

I remember my best mate once had this twatty older BF. She asked me what I thought of his car when he was driving us somewhere and I politely said something about liking Escorts (even though I actually thought the car was ugly and noisy!). He was furious... I got a big lecture about it being a vay expensive, superfast Subaru, the best car on the planet. hmm

StephenFrySaidSo Tue 10-Sep-13 18:46:08

Off topic but how does your dd not know what a BMW is?

RevoltingPeasant Tue 10-Sep-13 18:48:10

She's 10, Stephen! There's loads of random stuff she just won't have heard of yet.

Gruntfuttock Tue 10-Sep-13 18:49:33

I wouldn't have known when I was 10. I had zero interest in cars then and I'm still the same now.

mrsjay Tue 10-Sep-13 19:06:46

why would a 10 year old know or care what a BMW is well the neighbours dd will know obviously grin

StephenFrySaidSo Tue 10-Sep-13 19:08:37

it's a pretty popular car with lots of advertising all over the place and a very unique brand name- just wondering how it had escaped her what a BMW was.

EastwickWitch Tue 10-Sep-13 19:09:01

Some people feel defined by their cars, same as others by their jobs, or where they live.
I expect they thought they were offering a big treat.
I'm not sure it's snobbish, just a bit sad.

mrsjay Tue 10-Sep-13 19:14:13

because sometimes children do not give a flying fig what brands are especially cars My 15 yr old wouldnt know what a BMW was infact i dont think she even knows what our car is never mind a BMW ,

carabos Tue 10-Sep-13 19:17:17

This thread is making me grin. I have a friend who is changing her car this week. She's moving from "the Discovery" into a small VW runaround. Her adult (40) daughter is "naturally disappointed" but her adult (42) son has "been ok about it, he's always supportive". hmm

This friend also refers to her BBQ as "the Weber", the vacuum cleaner as "the Dyson", her wellies as "my Hunters" etc etc.

Years ago i knew a family whose DCs referred to their cars by their number - Daddy had a big Merc and Mummy a smaller one, so one of them was "the 190" and the other was whatever it was iyswim.

I love people who use brands to define themselves, hours of entertainment grin.

SleepyFish Tue 10-Sep-13 19:18:01

Anyone else think Stephen might be the neighbour?

NeoMaxiZoomDweebie Tue 10-Sep-13 19:19:05

carabos in my case I'll be like "I think I'd better wear The Oxfam today....and we'll go to school on The Raleigh." {grin]

mrsjay Tue 10-Sep-13 19:19:26

hmm Stephen are you

mrsjay Tue 10-Sep-13 19:20:38

grin carabos

mrsjay Tue 10-Sep-13 19:21:24

i watch the real housewives I love how the drop the gucci or the valentino in at every opporrtunity

TooExtraImmatureCheddar Tue 10-Sep-13 19:29:17

Dad used to have a Beemer! It was Y reg from the first time around (he bought it at the mart in about 1991), probably cost him about £100 and was snot green. He was so proud of it - it was either the Beemer or the Beast, depending on how fast he was driving at the time.

StephenFrySaidSo Tue 10-Sep-13 19:31:13

hmm mrsjay, no.

why do people do that? someone posts something that doesn't 100% agree (note i have neither agreed nor disagreed with OP) with an OP and somehow that makes them the other party. odd logic considering how many people use MN compared to how many people actually exist in the world.

BMW is a big brand is all i'm saying. it's hard not to notice them, they're all over the fucking place, on billboards, tv, cinemas etc. it would be different if the car in question had been a Bentley (just taking an example from upthread) because they just aren't about in the same way as BMW are.

SleepyFish Tue 10-Sep-13 19:31:38

This will probably out me but a relative of mine bought a little red Corvette whilst in the midst of a mid life crisis, decided to 'treat' my mum to a spin then promptly took her round the neighbourhood whilst blasting out little red corvette by Prince grin
She still cringes when I bring it up.

StephenFrySaidSo Tue 10-Sep-13 19:33:16

and it's probably the most recognisable car logo aswell.

mrsjay Tue 10-Sep-13 19:34:13

I just said I didnt think a 10 year old would know what a BMW car is not all children really know these things and I was kidding about the neighbour, to some people cars are just that cars that get them around to school or whatever and it is a good thing brands are not stuck in a 10 year olds head they can go about being a 10 year old

SleepyFish Tue 10-Sep-13 19:34:48

You do seem unreasonably affronted about a 10year old not knowing what a BMW is Stephen. It was tongue in cheek is all.

PasswordProtected Tue 10-Sep-13 19:37:06

I also loved the "what's a BMW" question.
Locally, and I live in Germany, they are known as Bums Mal Wieder or Bayrisches Mist Werk. Nothing wrong with them, both my parents in the UK drive BMWs, as does toyboy here in Germany (company car). Personally I don't like the engine noise, which is "whiney".
And now my "snob" bit, I drive a Mercedes, which is mine, bought and long paid for long ago and she is ace. But my choice and very personal.
I would never, ever offer someone a lift in my car under the pretext of being able to mention the make. These are machines to get you from A to B safely, end of story.

merrymouse Tue 10-Sep-13 19:38:49

Can't tell from OP whether she is a snob/car obsessive/made a rather bad joke, but if she is a strange snob she's a friendly strange snob with amusement value who is happy to give a neighbour's child a lift, so what's not to like really? grin

mrsjay Tue 10-Sep-13 19:38:53

it is not the fancy cars we are on about it is the mentioning LOTs about the fancy car as if it is something and the little girl was like MEH i got a lift home is all grin

StephenFrySaidSo Tue 10-Sep-13 19:39:04

yes i am very affronted. i'll confess now, i am actually a BMW and terribly offended at someone, even a child not knowing what i am.

get a grip. i asked how she didn't know what one was. i didn't say she should be shot for it.

Tailtwister Tue 10-Sep-13 19:39:45

"What's a BMW?" grin

For some people the car they drive defines them. I love driving nice cars (BMW's in particular actually), but I also get a kick out of driving our wee Polo. I just like driving and really appreciate cars. I could never afford a Ferrari for example, but I love to see them on the road (and imagine what it would be like to drive one).

Your neighbour sounds a bit odd, but maybe she's just a bit socially awkward?

mrsjay Tue 10-Sep-13 19:41:57

our next car is going to be a BMW estate dh says should i start mentioning it tout it about a bit to see who it impresses grin

Chelvis Tue 10-Sep-13 19:43:05

My SIL refers 'the audi' and refers to her home by the road's name - so it's never 'I'll go home now', it's 'I'll go to Conifer Mews now' (not real name!). She also refers to 'the family room' and the 'den', as well as the 'master suite with private bathroom', which is in the 'front wing'.

It's a 2 bed 2 reception new build with a master bedroom so small you can't fit wardrobes in and an ensuite where you can touch both walls when you're sat on the loo.

LessMissAbs Tue 10-Sep-13 19:45:59

When I was a student, a man once stopped in his open topped BMW and motioned for me to jump in. I ignored him and he persisted, at which point I said in scathing tones "I'm not getting in a supermini".

I refer to anything smaller than E class size as a supermini.

SeaSickSal Tue 10-Sep-13 19:49:01

It's like that Top Gear thing. 'I just wanted to tell you I ran over your dog. In my Jag.'

Bluemonkeyspots Tue 10-Sep-13 19:56:38

Stephen my dd does not even know what my car is never mind anyone else's. If I asked her to name three car makes she would most likely reply car, bus, tractor.

Car have less than 0% intrest to her as was demonstrated today.

Infact she was impressed by one thing in the BMW, seemingly it has these really cool handles in the back to wind down the windows!

Lovecat Tue 10-Sep-13 20:02:27

How is BMW the most recognised car logo when the Ford logo actually is the word FORD in big silver letters?

DH has a Beamer. It's called Gustav. I don't think it's a particularly posh car especially since I ran it into a low stone wall in Wales but it does have bloody awful suspension. My shitheap is a far comfier ride.

PrincessFlirtyPants Tue 10-Sep-13 20:02:45

Excuse me!! I am a BMW owner and frankly I am furious that your DD does not know the significance of the brand! grin

It must be a quite an old BMW if it has a manual stick to wind down the windows hmm

RafflesWay Tue 10-Sep-13 20:04:16

Sorry but bmw's and mercs aren't quite the prestige cars they were many years ago. There are loads of Every day cars more expensive - and more reliable - nowadays. I had a brand new BMW series 5 as a company car in the 90's and got rid of it as soon as I could. It was totally useless as soon as there was the slightest bit of ice or snow on the road. Had to abandon it 3 times one winter grrr!! Then another time the bloody headlights were flashing all the way down the M1 from Leeds - Loughborough. Electrical fault!! Give me a Japanese car anyday!

VaultFullOfTwizzlers Tue 10-Sep-13 20:04:36

Very funny, OP - thanks for sharing grin

I am forty-something and couldn't identify any cars on sight other than a Mini or a Reliant Robin (not that my Dad used to have one, oh no)

Apart from my own, obvs. It is a Peugeot, which is French for "slow-moving beige poo"

DH however, recognises Audi's, Mercedes and BMWs by the way they are being driven, even if they are a long way behind us.

VaultFullOfTwizzlers Tue 10-Sep-13 20:09:14

<not meaning to be offensive the MNing drivers of such cars myself. DH is in the living room procrastinating about putting DS to bed. I am happy to pass on any messages grin)

StephenFrySaidSo Tue 10-Sep-13 20:10:32

don't you encourage your dcs to recognise car makes incase they ever need to describe one for some reason? like an attempted abduction or a hit and run? growing up we played games in the car to get us used to recognising different types of cars. we didn't realise at the time what the point of the games were obviously but that's what it was. i do the same with my dcs now. i didn't think it was that unusual for dcs to be aware of at least a few more common types of cars.

Just asked DD1 who will be 10 next week. Market research.

- a BMW is a car - tick
- we have a Lexus - tick ten years old and very second hand
- Name 3 others? Mercedes, Ferrari and Audi - tick

I have just told her she needs to work very hard, go to a good university and get a very good job if those are the first marques that come to mind.

I had no idea I was raising a little capitalist materialistic consumer grin

LEMisdisappointed Tue 10-Sep-13 20:15:21

My friends DS is rather obsessed with cars - he is 8 and knows all the makes and models and has done since he was 3 He nearly fell over himself when DD told him we had a mercedes! I quickly explained to his mum that it was 15 years old with the star snapped off!

The thing is, at 10 i would have probably fallen over myself for a ride in a BMW, but that was in 1980 when they were fashionable. Now if i see a BMW i think "sales rep" its all about the Audi!

LEMisdisappointed Tue 10-Sep-13 20:16:57

are BMW making marques now?

VaultFullOfTwizzlers Tue 10-Sep-13 20:18:07

StephenFry I was amazed when my best mate's little brother used to say things like, "that Escort just undertook us" when I was a teenager. He was only seven.

But then in those days DC used to ride in the front seat a lot.

My parents didn't do it but then we only ever used the car for long journeys so I was usually reading.

grin at HTD's DD.

GingerBlackAndOriental Tue 10-Sep-13 20:18:42

Just proves that most BMW's are driven by wankers IMO.

changeling1234 Tue 10-Sep-13 20:41:58

Stephen now you do sound barking. Who teaches their children makes of car in case of an attempted abduction FFS?

[goes off to educate DCs about makes of flying saucers in case of alien invasion]

mrsjay Tue 10-Sep-13 20:46:35

that isnot really a common practise I dont think stephen confused

StephenFrySaidSo Tue 10-Sep-13 20:47:58

i really don't care if i sound barking or not (although i'm never impressed when people use mental illness as an insult.)

who teaches it? well my parents did and i do so that's who.

StephenFrySaidSo Tue 10-Sep-13 20:49:30

maybe not common. useful though. i'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

DisgraceToTheYChromosome Tue 10-Sep-13 20:55:26

The bikes aren't bad. It's odd that the two wheelers are owned by the nicest people on the planet, while the cars are the preserve of hypertensive fucknuggets.

Mind you, Saab's coming back: "I am considerably brainier than you".

Peterpurvis Tue 10-Sep-13 20:59:43

This thread is brilliant - although it is a painful reminder that my car broke down this eve and I had to get the bleeding bus home.

Seaweedy Tue 10-Sep-13 20:59:45

This thread is great. OP, your daughter has killer comic timing. Your neighbour sounds mildly crazed by her lack of appreciation of the glory that is BMW. Apparently.

I have realised, however, that I am a 41 year old professional, and I don't know what type of car we have. (Am a non-driver.) We got it in January, it's ugly and silver. It came with DP's job, and I gather is a fairly prestigious type, but I am astonished when anyone remarks on it. Am nostalgic for the recent past, when we were car-less central Londoners who leapt on and off the tube...

VaultFullOfTwizzlers Tue 10-Sep-13 21:00:03

I think it's quite a good skill to have even if my parents didn't do it and I didn't think to do it with my DC.

I wish I'd had some training myself because I'd know what to look for when DH says, "watch this twat in the Audi who is going to cause an accident" without looking around desperately and wishing he'd said, "the silver car" blush

Not sure how useful it would be in case of abduction unless expensive cars have more luxurious boot-space emblazoned with logos, but in general, yes.

lisylisylou Tue 10-Sep-13 21:03:11

Haha, I used to know a lady like that who ran a parents toddlers morning from a very posh (twattish) village and every time anyone spoke to this lady she always without fail mentioned her husband had a BMW. Me and my husband had a BMW but I never mentioned it at all to her and because of bad snow we got rid of it as it was useless couldnt even get it out of the driveway so we got pickups. 2 years later it had been snowing again and so we went for a family drive out and were helping dig out the police and towing their Volvo up a steep hill when a lady walked upto us. IT WAS HER and she said 'oh my husband can't get his car out of the drive its a BMW you know'. I have to admit I was cracking up inside but I couldn't show it! My son even got a free ride in the police car and they put the sirens on for him!! I had to tell you all it still makes me chuckle even now!!

JesusInTheCabbageVan Tue 10-Sep-13 21:06:21

OK OP, I daaare you to get the whole family dressed up in their very best clothes on Sunday and go and knock the neighbour's door. When she answers, shout (in chorus):

"Hello, can we all come for a ride IN THE BMW?"

Lottiedoubtie Tue 10-Sep-13 21:08:08

grin sounds like a plan Jesus!

StephenFrySaidSo Tue 10-Sep-13 21:08:20

not too late to start teaching yourself vault grin the game is adult friendly too- just makes the stakes a bit more exciting than 'whoever wins gets to sit in the front on the way back' wink

and yes BMWs are shit in the snow, except if you like going sideways. that's scary fun hmm grin

StephenFrySaidSo Tue 10-Sep-13 21:08:59

grin jesus!

JesusInTheCabbageVan Tue 10-Sep-13 21:09:47

don't you encourage your dcs to recognise car makes in case they ever need to describe one for some reason? like an attempted abduction or a hit and run? growing up we played games in the car to get us used to recognising different types of cars. we didn't realise at the time what the point of the games were obviously but that's what it was.

Well, not necessarily. Your parents might just have liked cars, mightn't they? And liked relatively peaceful car journeys?

elcranko Tue 10-Sep-13 21:12:11

This thread is hilarious grin

I work with a bloke who calls his car 'the beast', he drives it the few miles to work every day and polishes it every weekend. He then puts photos of his shiny, polished car on FB.

I remember him talking about a trip he had coming up that involved about 300 miles of driving. "Oh the beast will come in handy then" I said to him. He replied "nah, we're going in my wife's car. It costs too much to fuel the beast for those types of journeys."

Why buy the bloody thing then?!

StephenFrySaidSo Tue 10-Sep-13 21:13:16

well as they have since told me that was the point of the games i think its pretty safe to say that was the point of the games grin or maybe you're right and they lied- who knows? wink

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LEMisdisappointed Tue 10-Sep-13 21:17:02

Waltzing - when i was a kid we used to call BMW black mans willies smile

DP is from lewsiham and always describe BMWs as drug dealer cars.

LEMisdisappointed Tue 10-Sep-13 21:19:48

Stephen, i dont see where anyone has referred to a mental illness or used it as an insult (i have MH issues and am pretty sensitive about it, but nothing to be offended by here!)

Could it be that your parents were just petrol heads and prefered name the car to eye spy?

AmpullaOfVater Tue 10-Sep-13 21:22:00

Am snorting at memorising makes of cars in case of abduction! I know about three cars on sight, thank god no one's ever tried to kidnap me.

StephenFrySaidSo Tue 10-Sep-13 21:23:27

how do you interpret calling someone barking? i believed it to be a way of calling someone mad (as in 'barking mad')/nuts/crazy/not right in the head- am i wrong?

"Could it be that your parents were just petrol heads and prefered name the car to eye spy?"

see my post to jesus.

VaultFullOfTwizzlers Tue 10-Sep-13 21:26:33

Stephen I have a long and boring motorway journey as a passenger ahead of me tomorrow so I will make a start.

Eye Spy is fucking useless to play on the M1.

StephenFrySaidSo Tue 10-Sep-13 21:27:05

i'm snorting at people thinking that's funny. because no-one is ever pulled into a car or van by abductors? hmm

"only witness-can you describe the car that took your sister?"
"no"

"only witness- can you describe the car that took your sister?"
"yes it was a black Vauxhall astra- reg number abc 1234"

LEMisdisappointed Tue 10-Sep-13 21:27:29

Well if you are posting to Jesus...........

But no, i dont see calling someone barking as calling them mad, and even if it is, i don't really associate calling someone mad with mental health issues, i really don't. Barking in my mind = eccentric and a little bit woo.

Teaching your children car makes as an anti-kidnap strategy is slightly eccentric, but would actually suggest an over anxious parent - and i suffer from anxiety and actually wont let DD go in anyone elses car without me present.

BasilBabyEater Tue 10-Sep-13 21:27:34

I once had a trip in a BMW.

It was white.

And had cannabis in the glove compartment.

The owner wondered if it was legal to smoke cannabis in the privacy of your own car.

grin

StephenFrySaidSo Tue 10-Sep-13 21:28:14

yes- eyespy on the M1 "eyespy....sod it- it's all bridges" grin

AnneUulmelmahay Tue 10-Sep-13 21:28:54

When we were young and loaded we had an Audi, always reffed as The A4 blush

StephenFrySaidSo Tue 10-Sep-13 21:31:36

not an anti kidnap strategy- knowing the make of the car wont stop the kidnap happening- but it might help someone be found.

i'm pretty laidback when it comes to parenting and certainly not of the 'peedo round every corner' mindset. it's something i grew up 'tuned into' if that makes sense and it's just something i'm passing onto my dcs as i think it could be useful in that (or other car related) situation.

i also mentioned hit and run but nobody is taking issue with that for some reason.

TrinityRhino Tue 10-Sep-13 21:31:47

I have a convertible Beema
beat that grin

AmpullaOfVater Tue 10-Sep-13 21:32:16

Way OTT and over anxious. And I'm speaking as someone who lives in a country with the world's highest number of kidnappings.

LEMisdisappointed Tue 10-Sep-13 21:32:42

Vault and Stehpen - you should play eye spy with my DD. "I spy wiht my little eye something begining with g" us: Grass? DD: no, us: garage? no
ad nausem.......us: We give up - DD - getting frustrated: "its girrafe mummy" hmmgrin

AnneUulmelmahay Tue 10-Sep-13 21:33:15

With a peugeot 205? 105? as a second car. White, with flared wheel arches and go faster stripes blush this was called The White Car

LEMisdisappointed Tue 10-Sep-13 21:33:34

A BMW is one of the few cars I haven't shagged in.

StephenFrySaidSo Tue 10-Sep-13 21:34:47

are there ever any giraffes? i'm guessing no? grin

if you knew me (and some Mners do- who might not realise it due to NCing) you would know i m very far from an over anxious parent.

VaultFullOfTwizzlers Tue 10-Sep-13 21:37:03

Hit and run, any sort of twattery - I see your point.

They always mention the make of car on Crime-Stoppers and men are encouraged and expected to know this stuff from an early age.

I have been a bit of a crap feminist and parent I think.

beitou Tue 10-Sep-13 21:37:31

If you are being kidnapped don't the baddies always put a bag over your head to negate your car recognition skills. Mind you you could always identify them by saying they shopped at ASDA, Sainsburys, Tesco or if it was a superior rustle with a hint of politness rarely seen in the North, Waitrose

beitou Tue 10-Sep-13 21:38:37

I have shagged in a BMW, he wanted to put it in my bum, something about rear wheel drive.

VaultFullOfTwizzlers Tue 10-Sep-13 21:40:01

lol at LEM's DD.

DS is six and still can't understand that it's about what you see rather than imagine.

We like the Mini game though. Tickle for the person not to spot it first and extra ones if it's a yellow one.

SoftKittyWarmKitty Tue 10-Sep-13 21:46:46

Am I the only person who's wondering why the OP's car was having a service if it's only six months old?

Bluemonkeyspots Tue 10-Sep-13 21:48:00

Well dh got in from work and we had a good laugh with dd about her getting a ride in a BMW today. Dd was still very hmm "what the heck are you pair on about?"

Half an hour later we are sat talking in the living room while dd is lying behind the couch on FaceTime to her best friend and we hear her saying something like "I don't know why they find me getting a lift in a KFC so funny, they were laughing about it when dad got in from work" que dh and I wetting ourselves at her.

Perhaps we should start teaching her some car makes, she is obviously more clueless than I first thought.

Bluemonkeyspots Tue 10-Sep-13 21:49:34

Why is that strange soft kitty, I bought it a few weeks ago and part of the deal was they would give me the 10k service.

Is there a minimum time that a car should get serviced,

VaultFullOfTwizzlers Tue 10-Sep-13 21:52:13

<arf> at DD describing it as a KFC grin

LEMisdisappointed Tue 10-Sep-13 21:57:15

Vault - we play the Yellow car game, its sort of a family tradition now, although when DD1 played it invariably ended with me getting a dead leg hmm as you have to thump the oher person and shout yellow car! I don't tend to do it now as DD2 is only 8 and i worry i'll forget myself and lamp her one! grin For long journeys is Eddie Stobart Spotting, although that only tends to work if we venture north!

marriedinwhiteisback Tue 10-Sep-13 21:57:53

My dd once referred to mummy's picasso and the neighbs thought we were very rich smile; DH still snorts. Still drive a Picasso tbh.

Round here BMW's, expecially old ones are referred to as something that would be banned from mnet.

marriedinwhiteisback Tue 10-Sep-13 22:01:28

LeMis. Really!! It's only really comfy in a hurse smile.

VaultFullOfTwizzlers Tue 10-Sep-13 22:02:20

DD's friend introduced it to us but we have adapted the thump for a tickle. I wouldn't usually be so responsible but DD is very fragile and DS is autistic so chances are we'd have to abandon any day out or holiday in favour of the nearest A&E grin

RevoltingPeasant Tue 10-Sep-13 22:19:13

I don't know if this counts, but my dog recognises Toyota Rav4s because my mum and dad used to have one each.

She only tries to chase ones in midnight blue or champagne though.

Sorry OP, but my golden retriever is more consumer-savvy than DD....

.... wink

Doubtfuldaphne Tue 10-Sep-13 22:29:18

Very very annoying! My mil does this too.. Refers to everyone's cars their 'his car or her car' but hers is the Mercedes. Never just the car. I don't get it at all.. A car is a car. I couldn't give a shit.

neunundneunzigluftballons Tue 10-Sep-13 22:32:12

My mate used to go on about her 'Alfa' like that. God she loved that car, took me a while to understand their must be something marvellous in some parallel universe about Alfa Romeo, thing was it was the teensiest car you could begin to imagine. It was a nasty ugly little thing and it nearly bankrupt her but each to their own I guess.

StephenFrySaidSo Tue 10-Sep-13 22:35:10

is your car a Renault OP? i know Renault recommend their cars be serviced every 6 months for some reason.

Bumpotato Tue 10-Sep-13 22:36:39

My dad had an elderly BMW when we were kids. My brother and I used to refer to it as the "Barely Mobile Wreck". OP should explain to her DD what BMW stands for.

moanalot Tue 10-Sep-13 22:37:45

I really hate snobs. To me a car is a car and as long as it gets you from A to B that's all that counts. Nothing about a car could ever impress me.

SPBisResisting Tue 10-Sep-13 22:39:56

Are we the only couple with a car each who talk about "your car" and "my car"? Did we mss the cool names memo?

Bluemonkeyspots Tue 10-Sep-13 22:41:35

No it's a s max (titanium if that gets me extra points!)

I used to have a Renault though which i loved but our friend who is a trained mechanic and does all the little jobs on our cars would groan everytime I called him. He said even changing a bulb for a major job grin

SoftKittyWarmKitty Tue 10-Sep-13 22:42:25

I thought cars only needed servicing annually, at most. Just shows how much I know about them. Probably about as much as your DD grin.

Bluemonkeyspots Tue 10-Sep-13 22:42:47

Spb we only have the one car so it's "my car" though if its pissing rain and it needs filled with petrol it suddenly becomes "your car"

beitou Tue 10-Sep-13 22:45:31

Our cars are the big one and the little one.Which one are you taking dear? Im doing more miles so I'll take the little one. Ok dear.

StephenFrySaidSo Tue 10-Sep-13 22:45:36

they normally do softkitty but some manufacturers 'recommend' you do it every six months (because they get money out of you more often that way and Renaults are notorious for needing lots done every service)

treaclesoda Tue 10-Sep-13 22:48:48

ah, but what sort of BMW was it? I mean, I remember at school there was one boy who was sneered at behind his back because his dad had a bottom of the range BMW. Can you imagine the shame? wink

MusicalEndorphins Tue 10-Sep-13 23:06:30

I don't think she was being a snob, it sounds more light hearted. My ds would joke around about it being a treat being in his beloved 1994 Toyota, which is an old beater and on it's last legs. (or should I say last "wheels"?) DH & both DS's all have that same sense of humour your neighbor seems to have, so I get it.

MusicalEndorphins Tue 10-Sep-13 23:08:46

PS. I actually forget ds's car's age, but about 19-20.

fiverabbits Tue 10-Sep-13 23:18:35

Years ago friends of ours came to see us one Sunday afternoon. The man insisted we went to look at his BMW which he said cost him £4000. Then his wife said it will cost you more than that by the time you pay off the loan. How we kept a straight face I don't know and any way we would sooner had our Ford Cortina !

Madmum24 Wed 11-Sep-13 00:17:05

Oh this reminds me of a friend who never mentioned having a car, they were refered to as the merc and the beamer both clapped out ancient pieces of rust If I phoned her and asked where she was, she wouldn't say "I'm in the car at the school gates", it was "I'm sitting in the beamer/merc at the school gates".

WeAreSeven Wed 11-Sep-13 00:42:12

My dsis has SN's, I think possibly autism but never actually diagnosed.
When she was little, she was obsessed with cars and knew the individual sound each car made.
Once, Dad was looking after her. Mum was out. Mum drove a Renault 4. Dsis was sitting on the floor playing, couldn't see out of the window. A car drove up the road. Without looking up, dsis said "That's an R4" She listened for another minute and said "It's not Mammy's R4 though" Dad looked out and it was a Renault 4 and not my Mum's!

WiddleAndPuke Wed 11-Sep-13 00:52:47

When I met my now DH we went to a dinner attended by, among others, his DS (then 9) and one of DSSs mum's friends. This friend is possibly the most pretentious and affected women I've ever met. Anyway we were introduced and the conversation pretty much went:

Me: Hi! Nice to meet you!
Her: Oh hellow! (DSS) likes it when I take him for a drive in my PORSCHE!
Me: Oh, nice......

WiddleAndPuke Wed 11-Sep-13 00:54:31

I can identify:

Reliant Robins
Old style Minis
Buses
Old Beetles
Farm vehicles

I think that's it.

Will now hang around my children's friends and try to force them into my car whilst shouting 'It's a BMW, wouldn't you love to have a drive in a BMW? You can come back to dazzling close for a bbq. It'll be cooked on a Weber. Don't worry about the mess. I can soon clean that up with my Dyson' except I don't have a dyson. I have a henry. I have failed the brand name challenge. I am ashamed blush

LadyClariceCannockMonty Wed 11-Sep-13 09:19:47

'because no-one is ever pulled into a car or van by abductors?'

Things like that happen SO rarely.

"only witness- can you describe the car that took your sister?"
"yes it was a black Vauxhall astra- reg number abc 1234"

A lot of people could probably say, rather than 'no', 'yes it was a black van, medium-sized, reg number abc 1234'.

I think the weirdest/snobbiest part is that the woman must have phoned her DH to tell him she'd given dd a lift 'in tee BMW' and the DH felt it important enough to talk to the OP's DH about it. hmm

Like I said, perhaps they haven't got much to do grin

Crowler Wed 11-Sep-13 09:22:17

What a funny story OP! You can dine on it for years.

PigletJohn Wed 11-Sep-13 09:24:25

I haven't got time for this, I've got to polish the supercharger on the blue Daimler.

HormonalHousewife Wed 11-Sep-13 09:36:10

This has really made me smile.

Partly because i am also guilty of some of these crimes of snobbery grin

We have a few cars so we tend to call them by their brand names and I have to admit I have used the phrase beamer once or twice although never in public and I will try to control this in future 'cos it can obviously be construed as a bit knobby.

Its a fantastic story OP it will make you smile for years.

StephenFrySaidSo Wed 11-Sep-13 09:51:27

"'because no-one is ever pulled into a car or van by abductors?'

Things like that happen SO rarely."

but do happen all the same. aswell as the ones that aren't successful.

"A lot of people could probably say, rather than 'no', 'yes it was a black van, medium-sized, reg number abc 1234'."

that's good. the more information the better.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo Wed 11-Sep-13 09:57:13

I actually think this is a joke. The neighbour knows that her car is actually old and scruffy but that normally BMW is regarded as a prestige brand. So she jokes that your DD wanted a go in a BMW (even though actually not anything special in this case). I think it's quite amusing. It would be a snobby thing to say if the BMW was pristine smile

LadyClariceCannockMonty Wed 11-Sep-13 09:57:18

"Things like that happen SO rarely."
'but do happen all the time'.
Not sure of your point, Stephen.

As for my comment, the point is that your examples were at two extremes – someone who could identify make and model as well as colour and licence plate against someone who just said 'no'. Not particularly realistic, IMO –I think most people would be somewhere in the middle and identify the colour and size and maybe the plate or some of it, if not the make/model.

StephenFrySaidSo Wed 11-Sep-13 10:01:42

"–I think most people would be somewhere in the middle and identify the colour and size and maybe the plate or some of it, if not the make/model."

and like I said, that's good. the more information the better.

"Things like that happen SO rarely."
'but do happen all the time'.
Not sure of your point, Stephen.

you have misquoted my comment. I didn't say "but do happen all the time" I said "but do happen all the same.

which was my point- rarely isn't never.

DeWe Wed 11-Sep-13 10:32:42

Our neighbours offered ds a ride round in their new sportscar. He was very excited (age 6). They'd just had it delivered and came out to find him prowling round it admiring it from all angles, so they offered him a ride with the roof down. He doesn't know about car makes particularly (if it was planes it would be a different matter!) so wouldn't be impressed by saying it's a BMW, but was just loving the car.
If the neighbours had said to me he wanted a drive in their BMW I wouldn't think of it as snobby, just that he was loving their new car.

I can only identify cars (other than Beetle and Mini) if I can read the name on the back.

LadyClariceCannockMonty Wed 11-Sep-13 10:50:27

Sorry, Stephen, yes, I misread it! blush

What I was trying to say about your 'black Vauxhall' comment was that your two examples, of the two ways you seemed to be suggesting people would respond to the question, were both extreme. I don't think a lot of people would have NOTHING to say about the physical characteristics of a van, but you seemed to be suggesting that, unless someone could identify make and model, they would simply reply 'no' to the question, which I really don't think would be the case.

LisaMedicus Wed 11-Sep-13 11:12:51

I am nearly fifty and I wouldn't recognise a BMW. Actually I wouldn't recognise a Ford Focus and that's the car that DH drives.

Are there classes I could take?

YoureBeingADick Wed 11-Sep-13 11:26:14

lisa I can sign you up to my intensive 1 week course if you like wink

lady fair enough, it wasn't what I meant but If that is the way it comes across then I understand your comments.

TrinityRhino Wed 11-Sep-13 12:24:21

I love my beema
but not because its 'a bmw'

I dont care what anyone else thinks of my car
I love it because I love the way it looks (old old style, mew ones are too rounded), sounds, feels

I've always wanted one and I love love love it and it is called ' the beema'
grin

TrinityRhino Wed 11-Sep-13 12:25:08

I'm a car person though
always have been

used to help dad fix al our cars
learnt how engines worked before I learnt to drive
etc

PeerMon Wed 11-Sep-13 16:42:04

Someone I work with always refers to her car as 'my Mercedes'.

For example, on the phone to the garage, she says 'I need to book my Mercedes in for a new tyre' rather than just 'my car' hmm

GhostsInSnow Wed 11-Sep-13 16:47:18

I drive a battered old Clio and a 1982 TR7. DH has a Ford Focus. Because he has one car his is 'the car'. Because I have 2 and I often need to make clear which I mean I am guilty of saying 'the 7' or 'the Clio'. This isn't to be pretentious in any way. Both are rather ancient cars, but if I just say 'the car' to friends and family they will always ask "which one?".
blush

IShallCallYouSquishy Wed 11-Sep-13 16:50:39

Love this. I love the "what's a BMW?"

We have a BMW. We also have my 10 year old seat Ibiza with debts in it. We usually manage with "your car or my car?"

My poor DD slums it in my car 95% of the time. I feel I'm doing her a great disservice now and must henceforth start asking her if she would like to go in "the beefa or the beemer" and being 15.5 months old of course she will say "why the beemer of course mummy"

grin

GhostsInSnow Wed 11-Sep-13 17:29:24

I fear I was perhaps the worst parent in the world because when my 2 were in primary a few years ago I drove a Morris Minor which absolutely mortified the pair of them.

They did get off lightly really, at the time I was offered a classic hearse which I loved to bits but DH talked me out of it as they went to a Catholic School and the car park was shared with the church. blush

friend and I have two bed flats which we call our apartments but its tounge in cheek.
I also call my 206 the Bentley.

AllSWornOut Thu 12-Sep-13 08:14:50

May I just point out that the vehicle identified in the theoretical kidnap scenario is an Astra, so if someone described it as a "black van" the kidnappee would be buggered.

And Renault's need servicing every 6 months because they're shite <unlike my car Saab which can't be serviced at all now they've gone bust hmm>

My brother couldn't care less what car he has. I quite like cars and take time choosing.

However, he's the one with the Porsche, Mercedes and Range Rover and my car is a 10 year old one that used to be DH's.

It's not fair, he can buy expensive cars and chooses silly ones!

YoureBeingADick Thu 12-Sep-13 10:32:17

you can get astra vans wink

JesusInTheCabbageVan Thu 12-Sep-13 19:21:45

I fear I was perhaps the worst parent in the world because when my 2 were in primary a few years ago I drove a Morris Minor which absolutely mortified the pair of them.

When I was in secondary school my mum drove a white Lada AND it had a big hole in the floor which we could see the road through grin AND once she left it in the garage too long and the steering wheel went mouldy.

Amazingly, someone actually paid money for it when she eventually sold it.

GhostsInSnow Thu 12-Sep-13 19:37:08

Hahaha brilliant.

The Mog had no carpets as it leaked, to alleviate said leak I drilled a hole in the footwells in the back. This worked marvellously until one day DD dropped a full bag of 'millions' in the footwell which then trailed a la Hansel and Gretel all the way home through the hole.
Also, if you hit the hump onto the car park at the right angle/speed it was possible to get both kids bounced into the roof (sprung rear seats).

Had to crank start it one day as well on the school car park. Anyone would have thought from the looks on their faces I was chopping up small puppies.

I sold it at profit, had 3 years of extreme fun and a great time embarrassing the kids who must have a selective memory because they talk about it fondly now.

lol jesus.
my friends mum had a brown and orange lada she used to drive us to school in.
needless to say I was always conveniently bending down to tie my laces when we arrived at the gate!

NeoMaxiZoomDweebie Fri 13-Sep-13 06:57:31

Can I hijack to ask all you car types some advice please? We have just got enough cash together to buy a cheap swcond hand car after years with none....a friend advised me not to buy anything french....is je racist or sensible? Another friend said you MUST get desil...why?

marriedinwhiteisback Fri 13-Sep-13 08:05:19

We bought our ds a 55 plate polo for just over 2k at christmas. I like driving it. I have driven citroens for 12 years now without any problems - totally reliable although they feel "tired" once they reach about 8 but on a vfm ratio I think they're great. The petrol/diesel issue is mileage dependent. Diesels are more expensive but cheaper on fuel. Ultimately if you are buying second hand it depends on the deal you can get. Check out "honest John" on the telegraph website for advice.

marriedinwhiteisback Fri 13-Sep-13 08:08:52

My DS drives GWiz. The DC refuse to get in it but it avoides the congestion charge and where at his work they used to fit in (not DH) four big estates they can squeeze in 7 City cars smile

PigletJohn Fri 13-Sep-13 08:12:06

Japanese brands are generally more reliable and better built than others, the reverse is true of french brands.

Diesels are generally more economical on fuel if you mostly do long journeys. If you do mostly short jourheys some diesels need more frequent maintenance.

MusicalEndorphins Sat 14-Sep-13 03:32:44

This is exactly what I got from the OP's situation.
GhoulWithADragonTattoo Wed 11-Sep-13 09:57:13

I actually think this is a joke. The neighbour knows that her car is actually old and scruffy but that normally BMW is regarded as a prestige brand. So she jokes that your DD wanted a go in a BMW (even though actually not anything special in this case). I think it's quite amusing. It would be a snobby thing to say if the BMW was pristine smile

2kidsintow Sat 14-Sep-13 20:35:15

I teach in an affluent area and overheard a child telling a TA that they were going shopping 'in the audi'. TA asked, tongue in cheek 'shopping at aldi?' Child was very shock at the thought of shopping in aldi.

LesserSpottedFuckwit Sat 14-Sep-13 20:57:16

I had a Saab a few years ago. We did call it the Saab (probably wanky) but oh it was a lovely car after long years of driving horrendous shitboxes. Everything worked and there were no holes in the floor. Lovely comfortable seats too. I miss that car. I don't have one at all any more.

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