Would you report SIL who is driving 2 weeks after c-section?

(166 Posts)
mrbloomrocks Fri 06-Sep-13 20:26:32

She has not been signed off to drive by the GP, she reckons it was more strain on her scar to walk everywhere confused. That's not the point though is it? Her insurance wouldn't be valid, if she has an accident she could tear her stitches?

Who would I report it to anyway? The local police?

vitaminC Fri 06-Sep-13 20:30:39

I had no idea driving licences were suspended by doctors as a result of giving birth! Wow!

I thought it was just a recommendation to patients not to drive too soon, to allow the scar to heal (and as a way of discouraging patients from going out and about too much, too soon, and overdoing it)!

Really, OP, do you have nothing better to do than telling tales on new mothers? shock

melliebobs Fri 06-Sep-13 20:30:39

No I wouldn't as it depends on your insurer. I'm with TESCO and they said as Its something I didn't have to declare to the DVLA it's not a problem. But before I got behind the wheel I made sure I was comfortable to emergency stop

Why would you report her?

I was driving 2 weeks after a c section with the full knowledge of both my gp and insurance company.

Insurance just wanted to know the gp said it was ok, and gp only wanted to know i could perform an emergency stop without hesitating due to pain and lift the baby in their seat without discomfort. How do you know the gp has said no?

My GP said it was up to me to decide when I could safely drive.

It was a lot less than 6 weeks, that's for sure.

Mamafratelli Fri 06-Sep-13 20:32:16

Good grief give her a break. The advice is so she doesn't split open her scar when doing an emergency stop.

On second thoughts please call the police and see what they say when they stop laughing

Mintyy Fri 06-Sep-13 20:32:25

Quite. Who would you report it to? She risks doing herself an injury if she has to do an emergency stop.

Perhaps you had better find out who she insures with and report it to them eh?

<ffs>

Wibblypiglikesbananas Fri 06-Sep-13 20:33:16

I suppose you don't know the ins and outs of her surgery. I know that's the recommendation but here in the US, it's down to individual Drs and their discretion so she could well have been told she's safe? Wouldn't it also depend on her insurance company and policy wording? I wouldn't interfere to be honest - and like you say, who do you report to? You'd just end up looking vindictive.

OnTheBottomWithAWomensWeekly Fri 06-Sep-13 20:33:20

Report her to who? She can drive whenever she likes, what the fuck is it to you?

HicDraconis Fri 06-Sep-13 20:33:22

My advice to people following LSCS is that they should refrain from driving if they find it painful to do an emergency stop. They should also check with their insurance company to make sure they're covered.

How do you know you SiL hasn't called & clarified insurance cover? If she can do an emergency stop painlessly what's to report?

If she can't do an emergency stop due to pain then she's putting other road users / pedestrians at risk however.

FeedTheBirdsTuppenceABag Fri 06-Sep-13 20:33:38

Goodness i think its a bit of an urban myth the six week drive ban, we called our insurance and they couldn't have given a monkeys! They said whenever it was fine by me!
Lots of times on here women who have had one have said they drove much quicker.
I am sure after such a huge operation she wouldn't be able to physically drive if she wasn't ready.

Therefore I think she is ready and YOU should butt out.

smile

You really need to find something better to worry about!

PavlovtheCat Fri 06-Sep-13 20:33:44

<rolls eyes>

mykingdomforasleep Fri 06-Sep-13 20:33:46

When I rang my insurance company to double check they were bemused I was even asking them... my GP also said when ok to do emergency stop tho I did wait six weeks.

vitaminC Fri 06-Sep-13 20:33:57

Oh and as this is AIBU: YABVVU! HTH!

honeybunny14 Fri 06-Sep-13 20:33:58

Dont know why u would do that and shes just had a baby im abit shocked :O

TwoMuchTwoYoung Fri 06-Sep-13 20:34:43

Yeah report it, that would be a lovely kind thing to do.
I drove after 3 weeks so I could visit my sick baby in scbu.
You sound like a knob

SoulTrain Fri 06-Sep-13 20:34:44

I drove four weeks after mine, why the hell do you care anyway?

It's not a decision for the GP to make, as long as your insurance company agrees, (which mine were more than happy to) then it's fine.

Why are you trying to make an already challenging time worse for her?

MollyHooper Fri 06-Sep-13 20:34:45

You don't like her much, do you?

<captain obvious>

quietlysuggests Fri 06-Sep-13 20:34:53

Listen OP, just tell us, WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?

ll31 Fri 06-Sep-13 20:34:59

Wow op, I think the phrase get a life, was mare for you....

VivaLeBeaver Fri 06-Sep-13 20:35:04

You don't have to be signed off by your gp. Your insurance will be happy as long as you feel you can perform an emergency stop.

I was driving two weeks after and could happily have performed an emergency stop. You're not at risk of splitting your stitches either.

AuntieStella Fri 06-Sep-13 20:35:29

I'd you drive when under medical advice not to, you invalidate your insurance.

After a C-section, it always used to be 6 weeks (imposed by the insurers). Now, it's a bit more flexible, if a doctor has given OK to drive.

Driving without insurance is indeed an offence. And driving whilst medically barred is dangerous - just think of the possible consequences if you cannot perform an emergency stop.

If she has medical clearance and therefore valid insurance then there is no problem.

Calloh Fri 06-Sep-13 20:35:52

Driving post c-s is almost always fine. Why would you report?

If you can walk to the car I don't really see why you would be unable to put your foot down on the brake pedal. Usually you just have a phone consultation with your GP and then tell your insurance company

Even that seems ridiculously annoying to me.

AmpullaOfVater Fri 06-Sep-13 20:36:07

CALL 999 NOW! They will send a helicopter to track her movements and then set up roadblocks etc.

phantomnamechanger Fri 06-Sep-13 20:36:16

MIL has just had some abdominal surgery and was told the driving ban was not only about the risk of straining yourself, making things worse in an accident, or delaying your recovery, but also because it takes a very long time for the GA to wear off completely - but 6 weeks ? confused
The hospital told her to check with her insurers and they said to wait till she had had her signing off/discharge appointment - it was 6 weeks in her case.

WillowB Fri 06-Sep-13 20:36:53

YABU

I was driving 2 weeks after section. Insurance company were fine with it. This 6 weeks stuff is a myth based around the old 6 week check stuff. My doctors don't even offer a 6 week check for the mum!

I think you should mind your own business really

FoxyRevenger Fri 06-Sep-13 20:37:26

Wow, what a nightmare of a sister in law you must be!

phantomnamechanger Fri 06-Sep-13 20:37:31

calloh I think its also about the twisting about your middle to reverse etc

mykingdomforasleep Fri 06-Sep-13 20:37:31

...and the worry is not that your scar would cone open, it's that you may not brake as quickly or as hard as required if it hurts to do so.

phantomnamechanger Fri 06-Sep-13 20:38:09

calloh I think its also about the twisting about your middle to reverse etc

SuperiorCat Fri 06-Sep-13 20:38:27

Like Two I drove after 2 weeks to be able to get to my DD who was in hospital.

I checked with the insurance company who said fine unless medically advised against.

The guidelines are to stop the scar opening if you have to do an emergency stop.

RescueCack Fri 06-Sep-13 20:39:51

YABU. It's an urban myth. All insurance policies have a clause that states you aren't covered if you know that you can't emergency stop for any reason. Surgery would be a good reason not to pay out if they could prove that you were

1) involved in an accident
2)because you couldn't emergency stop
3)due to pain from surgery.

I could equally not be covered in an accident because I had an ingrown toe nail that made me tentative on the brakes. We all have a responsibility every time we get in the car.

I believe that if you have a sneezing fit and it results in an accident you are expected to have pulled over after the 2nd sneeze. Otherwise you can be prosecuted for dangerous driving - a lot worse than not being insured! But really, who would??

There's no law about c-sections, no need for GP to sign you off, no criminality. But please, report her. They'll probably want to know...

NatashaBee Fri 06-Sep-13 20:40:05

Report her? No. Offer to drive her around/fetch her shopping? Yes.

My MW said that as long as I could thump my foot down on the floor (i.e. emergency stop) I was good to go.

MYOFB.

I seriously think you should consider minding your own business, and considering the reason why you would want to report your SIL for doing sod all wrong.

YABU and you know it.

candycoatedwaterdrops Fri 06-Sep-13 20:41:31

The 6 weeks 'no 'post C-section and any other major abdominal surgery are guidelines. Also, you sound very spiteful!

phantomnamechanger Fri 06-Sep-13 20:41:57

that comment about sneezing is daft - who's going to know how mnay times you sneezed? unless you are a coach driver or something.

Onebuddhaisnotenough Fri 06-Sep-13 20:42:08

Get yourself a hobby OP.

Or a grip wink

Sianilaa Fri 06-Sep-13 20:42:17

YABVVU.

I rang my insurance after my second section and they couldn't have cared less, said it was up to me when I felt up to it and I didn't need to be signed off. I recovered really well and was driving within 10 days post-section with no problems and no pain.

UterusUterusGhali Fri 06-Sep-13 20:42:17

I shagged my husband 4 weeks after a vaginal delivery.

Would I get reported to the Parent Police?

MissStrawberry Fri 06-Sep-13 20:43:04

I doubt it is against the law.

When I had my emcs in 2001 I rang the GP to ask when I could drive and was told to ring insurers. I rang the insurers and they said it was up to me. They won't commit.

I drove at 5 weeks 5 days and ime it was harder lifting the pram in than the actual driving though I took it very steady and didn't rush to drive again.

NoelHeadbands Fri 06-Sep-13 20:43:28

If course I would report it!

If you check out your local police force website there's usually a special number to ring and report. It's usually near the section for reporting Welshmen who've crossed the town boundary carrying a bow and arrow and the man who walked sheep down the city road on a Tuesday night.

Neitheronethingortheother Fri 06-Sep-13 20:43:39

Do people really do things like that? And would you tell her you had reported her or would you just be two faced about it and chat away to her the next time you met up with her. As another poster said if would you not offer to drive her or do her shopping so she wouldnt need to drive?

olivo Fri 06-Sep-13 20:47:06

Sorry, no time to read the rest of the thread but absolutely not. I was driving after 2 weeks, my dr said she trusted me to know, my insurance co were happy with that. It is an absolute myth that you have to wait six weeks, it really depends on your insurance co.

Fairylea Fri 06-Sep-13 20:47:20

Yabu.

You don't need to tell anyone or have be signed off by anyone! If she feels safe enough to drive I'm sure she's probably fine. Lots of people feel completely back to normal after 2 weeks.

I nearly died during my c section and lost 3 litres of blood and had 3 transfusions and a drain in the wound so it took me 6 weeks to get back to driving safely but I was an extreme case!

Calloh Fri 06-Sep-13 20:47:22

Phantom that's true - twisting may put more strain on it, but surely its mainly the neck or you move your shoulders and hips and not pull the abdomen?

it always seems to be about concern that women would avoid braking hard to open scar.

Either way I find it very frustrating and have had it reiterated by midwives. To me it isolates women at a tough time, adds further ludicrous feelings of incompetence and helplessness to those who had a c-s and doesn't seem to have much grounding in medicine.

MissPlumBroughtALadder Fri 06-Sep-13 20:47:38

What the hell is wrong with you? In whose interests would it be to 'report' her? I'm not sure to whom you would report her anyway, as there is no law or ban or whatever you appear to believe she is driving in contravention of.
I was driving less than three weeks after a section. No discomfort at all. It was far easier on me than pushing the pram.

candycoatedwaterdrops Fri 06-Sep-13 20:47:47

If I found out a relative was driving 2 weeks after major surgery and with a newborn, I'd be shocked.....and offer to drive and get them something, not report them!

Bugsylugs Fri 06-Sep-13 20:48:00

I guess you have read DVLA guidelines which are that you can drive again when medically signed off and have informed your insurance. So to those saying nil to do with a Dr are a bit wrong.
Maybe give her some support offer to drive etc as I am sure she is tired

propertyNIGHTmareBEFOREXMAS Fri 06-Sep-13 20:48:43

Yabvu.

Charlottehere Fri 06-Sep-13 20:49:32

Eh?

Bowlersarm Fri 06-Sep-13 20:49:35

Omg no, of course I wouldn't report SIL. You aren't a friend of hers, are you sad

Rufus43 Fri 06-Sep-13 20:50:36

Nope, drove at 2 weeks after both my c sections. Insurance company I'd it was ok as long as I could do an emergency stop.

You are being very unreasonable!

But if you report it do come back and let us all know how it went

pinkpeoniesplease Fri 06-Sep-13 20:50:40

You are really not a very nice person OP. How about you try and help the poor woman?
I'm glad you're no friend of mine...

WayHarshTai Fri 06-Sep-13 20:50:44

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somersethouse Fri 06-Sep-13 20:51:12

YABU and you sound quite nutty.

NoMoreWasabi Fri 06-Sep-13 20:51:40

I also called my insurers who said there was no rule and as long as I felt Ok to drive that was fine.

waltzingmathilda Fri 06-Sep-13 20:53:21

Tear her stitches? mine came out after 5 days and I was fine (and legal) to drive after 10 days.

you are indeed a nasty piece arent you?

olivo Fri 06-Sep-13 20:53:50

I'm confused, why do you need to twist to reverse?

Hulababy Fri 06-Sep-13 20:54:12

She may not be doing anything wrong - her GP or MW may have told her she is find to work. It really depends on what she has been advised.

I was told I could NOT drive - and was told that if I drove whilst being told my medical professionals I was not fit to drive then my insurance could be invalid. Therefore I did not drive until i was deemed fit to do so by my GP.

It can be a real issue on your scar if you have an accident or have to do am emergency stop I believe, if driving too early.

Really? Beak out!

You're a charmer aren't you OP?

K8Middleton Fri 06-Sep-13 20:55:35

Yeah you should totes tell her mum on her!

Or get a life.

NotYoMomma Fri 06-Sep-13 20:56:02

no way! hiw interfering can you get?!

Jellybeanz1 Fri 06-Sep-13 20:57:22

My dh doesn't drive and I found it painfully hard struggling with the supermarket bags following my emergency c section. I thought the rumour of a ban was to protect me but with no close family or friends around to help, in desperation I phoned my insurance who told me to go to the doctors and send a note in. I got the impression they didn't care and felt I had dropped myself in it. When I was at the doctors he asked me to stand up and stamp really hard on the floor with my right foot! It didn't sink in till I was walking home with my 'permission slip' that I was miming an emergency stop!grin

ExitPursuedByADragon Fri 06-Sep-13 20:58:19

Yep. Report the bitch.

gordyslovesheep Fri 06-Sep-13 20:58:49

I drove after 2 weeks - my Dr said as long as I could to an emergency stop , I could, I was fine

You seriously are panting to report your sil to the police? Going by this thread you're not very nice!

Offer her a lift as a penance!

Whowouldfardelsbear Fri 06-Sep-13 21:00:29

I drove after 2 weeks. It was either that or manage a toddler and new born in a pram up a steep hill for a mile anytime i wanted to go out or even get to the nearest shop.

Did the foot stamping thing first.

YABU

FeedTheBirdsTuppenceABag Fri 06-Sep-13 21:01:09

Auntie stella speak for your own insurers mine couldn't give a monkeys and were also bemused by me asking! My doc couldn't give a monkeys either, he didn't even ask about the scar, or the section!

Maybe all this was in the day when the little woman had to be given the all clear and now they realise that we are responsible and we do know our own bodies?

Pachacuti Fri 06-Sep-13 21:02:26

Most insurance companies don't have rules about being signed off by a doctor (there's generally a catch-all clause about being fit to drive, and getting the OK from a doctor is a good way of "proving" that you are, but it's not normally explicitly required). And most GPs will OK you after two weeks anyway if you did ask them.

You sound like a bit of a nightmare SIL, to be honest.

SugarplumKate Fri 06-Sep-13 21:03:06

Presumably she is driving so she can shop, get to appointments, transport other children around rather than simply fancying a spin. Why don't you offer her some help instead? I'm sure she would appreciate it and may find she does not need to drive.

WayHarshTai Fri 06-Sep-13 21:03:46

I'll rephrase that.

OP, your post makes you sound like an utter, utter bastard.

(sorry HQ)

FeedTheBirdsTuppenceABag Fri 06-Sep-13 21:04:55

Op when are you going to tell her you want to report her, when you hand over your baby present?

Methe Fri 06-Sep-13 21:05:57

I was driving 10 days after my section fully signed off by my gp ( who had a cursory glance at my incision site) and with my insurers aware.

I had a baby in NICU. I needed to drive.

If someone had reported me I'd have thought the an absolute cunt and it would have been the last thing I had to do with them.

StephenFrySaidSo Fri 06-Sep-13 21:06:38

i'm guessing this was a wind 'em up an watch 'em go one seeing as OP hasn't returned.

MakeHayIsAWhaleNow Fri 06-Sep-13 21:06:47

Yes, yabvu - it's a myth that you are not covered for 6 weeks. They have no issue at all (according to two lots of insurers that I have called post cs to clarify). As pps have said, as long as you are ok to lift both feet off the floor to do an emergency stop (not an issue for me as I had an automatic at the time) then you are safe.

Good for her for getting out and about. Reporting her would be very wrong.

mirry2 Fri 06-Sep-13 21:06:51

I didn't know I had to get clearance from your GP or my insurance company. I was told it was better not to drive, not that it was forbidden, and nobody said it was incase I split op my scar. I thought it was because I'd had a major operation and might become a bit woosey

FeelingWeirdNow Fri 06-Sep-13 21:07:12

Keep your beak out.

You sound like you just want to cause trouble.

What is your agenda??

dementedma Fri 06-Sep-13 21:07:16

Sheesh.'I had 3 cs and never ocurred to me to ask either gp or insurance if I could drive. I just did, as soon as I possibly could.
Its really no big deal

MakeHayIsAWhaleNow Fri 06-Sep-13 21:07:31

stephenfry I'd say you might have a point there....

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Fri 06-Sep-13 21:07:33

I dutifully waited 6 weeks and then rang my insurance company to get the all clear, who were bemused and said it was up to me and I would have been fine to drive earlier if I felt OK and hadn't been told not to by a doctor. They really don't care and there is no blanket 6-week ban.

marriedinwhiteisback Fri 06-Sep-13 21:08:10

Unanimous thread. Uncorks champagne.

OP 20 odd years ago I had my throat cut from side to side for a serious operation. I was back in the car after two weeks and probably more cautious in buisy. Places like Hammersmith roundabout!

A couple of years ago after hhobbling (and driving) on a fractured ankle for four weeks when I eventually went to a and e and the nurse gave me crutches pending an emergency apt with the consultant the following morning I asked if I could drive. She said if she gave me the crutches and the box was ticked that she had and if the insurers checked my insurance was invalid. So, OP, I said "and if I've a pair of crutches at home and promise to use them?". And she said "then I don't tick the box"

FFS OP - get a life or three - not sure whether to laugh or cry.

In this sort of situation you should always think What would someone who wasn't a complete cunt do?

I was told not to drive till I felt happy to do an emergency stop if I'd gone by that I'd have driven home from hospital! I waited 2 weeks.

Capitola Fri 06-Sep-13 21:10:30

Seriously OP? What is your agenda?

I suspect this is a wind up...

caramelwaffle Fri 06-Sep-13 21:10:47

Out of interest:

What is the law regarding this in England/Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland?

Also ROI?

HarryStottle Fri 06-Sep-13 21:11:10

Think you have a lot of reporting to do- to the police, the insurer,
school or nursery if she's delivering older children there, the supermarket and any other car park providers that she's parking in, social services (obviously); the local NCT, neighbourhood watch, her GP, her midwife, her health visitor, and the NSPCC. I think that covers it.

Akray Fri 06-Sep-13 21:11:48

YABVU

I drove 5 days after c~section ~ DH is self~ employed and could not afford not to work and we have no family to help out ~ it was the only way I could get other DC to school and back.

I felt silly for calling doc and insurance ~ they were completely uninterested.

No one would get in a car with DC, especially a new~born if you thought you were at risk.

VivaLeBeaver Fri 06-Sep-13 21:13:14

I've never done an emergency stop but I can't believe if I did that I'd use my uterus to aid the stop in any way. Men seem to manage emergency stops without a uterus perfectly well.

The only other stuff that's cut is skin and fat....again neither of those will help that much in performing an emergency stop.

Obv if you're so tender you're totally hobbling about then it may be a struggle. But ime most women walk out the p/n ward on day 2 without hobbling.

slurredlines Fri 06-Sep-13 21:14:32

"She has not been signed off to drive by the GP"

When I asked my GP whether I could drive again after my c-section she knew not the fuck what I was talking about. She referred me to my midwife, who (along with an obstetrician from the hospital) had sought advice about this and they confirmed that it was nothing whatsoever to do with them and that people should check with their own insurers.

I checked with my insurers and they were as bemused as the GP.

I drove 3 weeks after my c-section and was fine.

Incidentally, I've also had a forceps delivery and driving was far more of a challenge after that than the c-section.

I REALLY want to know who you were going to 'report' your SIL to, though. Who????

As an aside, I've noticed that this is an urban myth rolled out by the judgey mcjudge anti c-section brigade as a (made up) reason as to why vaginal birth is better than c section.

OP, may I just offer you a great big...

....PARP.

CoffeeTea103 Fri 06-Sep-13 21:14:38

You are one nasty person. She is family and just had a baby!!

mrbloomrocks Fri 06-Sep-13 21:15:15

I'm here, not posting & running. Well I'm glad I asked as I actually was under the impression that there was this 6 week rule and that she was therefore doing something wrong. I've spoken to her about it and she's also under the impression that she's not supposed to be doing it! So I can now tell her that as long as she feels fine she can go ahead & not worry about it. Maybe it was an old ruling that you had to tell your insurers and it's no longer the case? Her scar has flared up a bit actually but I suppose that could have been from all the walking around.

She is very independent, took out her own catheter in hospital, discharged herself & was home the next day cleaning her whole house top to bottom, ironing etc. I thought she should be taking it a bit easier and was worried that the driving was the icing on the cake & that informing someone might be the only way to stop her from causing herself any more harm. But I now realise that was stupid.

And the AIBU crowd didn't disappoint! grin

ExitPursuedByADragon Fri 06-Sep-13 21:18:26

Go girl

mirry2 Fri 06-Sep-13 21:18:35

mrbloomrocks you've taken it all very well. good on you.

BrianTheMole Fri 06-Sep-13 21:19:25

Why would you do that? Don't you like your sil? And your brother? Don't they like you? Actually you don't need to answer that, I'm sure they already sense your animosity towards them. Why do you think she's not allowed to drive?

StephenFrySaidSo Fri 06-Sep-13 21:20:06

" So I can now tell her that as long as she feels fine she can go ahead & not worry about it."

oh she asked your permission did she? hmm

BrianTheMole Fri 06-Sep-13 21:20:37

Ha! Just seen your post. Well done op for taking it on the chin.

LookingForwardToSalmon Fri 06-Sep-13 21:21:05

Nah

I did it, just rand the insurance company up and they basically said 'we don't give a fuck, just don't crash'

StephenFrySaidSo Fri 06-Sep-13 21:21:27

i'd say cleaning the whole house would cause her far more difficulty after a section than driving tbh!

NoelHeadbands Fri 06-Sep-13 21:21:32

So what was the general consensus do we think?

Could someone tot up the votes and see whether we thought OP was being U or not U?

slurredlines Fri 06-Sep-13 21:23:05

"She is very independent, took out her own catheter in hospital, discharged herself & was home the next day cleaning her whole house top to bottom, ironing etc"

Leave her alone.

Rufus43 Fri 06-Sep-13 21:23:16

madamecastefiore grin

caramelwaffle Fri 06-Sep-13 21:23:38

Perhaps she (and you) are getting confused with the rule that women MUST take two weeks off work (plus more if working in certain workplaces/industries) after giving birth...?

mrbloomrocks Fri 06-Sep-13 21:23:41

Ha ! I think I was definitely BVVU! I love MN, tells it like it is.

caramelwaffle Fri 06-Sep-13 21:25:26

Heck - I'm on the Wisteria Lane white picket fence

Bowlersarm Fri 06-Sep-13 21:25:57

Naughty, naughty OP

DontmindifIdo Fri 06-Sep-13 21:26:17

OP - tell her to call her insurance company! Some do insist on a letter from a medical professional (either GP or midwife) but most don't, but expect to be told. I spoke ot my midwife at day 13 post C-section, who said in her opinion I was fine to drive. I called my insurance company, htey said as long as I was sure it was ok, it was fine, and they didn't need any proof of this, but they did put a note on my file and i think if I'd had an accident and not told them it could be a problem.

DontmindifIdo Fri 06-Sep-13 21:27:22

Oh and BTW - no one ever told me I couldn't drive! Not the consultant, not the hospital staff, not the midwives, it only came up when I asked about it. If you didn't know there was some mythical 6 week not driving rule, you'd but unlikely to know...

HoopersGinger Fri 06-Sep-13 21:30:06

You sound like a very public spirited member of the community OP. Tell your sis in law about your current dilemma and then plan a visit where she drives around a quiet street and you dive unexpectedly from behind a hedge into the road. She can test her responses and if her scar splits when she has mown you down you can, at least, have the last laugh.

It's not illegal it could just invalidate her own insurance , I drove 3 weeks after my c section and cleared it with my doctor and Insurance. You have issues OP

eatriskier Fri 06-Sep-13 21:32:01

For the first time knowingly, I haven't RTFT (flame me if needs be, I probably deserve it). But in my case my GP was very insistent both times I could not drive until 6 weeks after. Which I took rather nonchalantly as I can't drive anyway. I found it odd as some friends who could drive found their GPs saying it was ok before the 6 weeks.

But YABU from what I gather from medical professionals and drivers

NoelHeadbands Fri 06-Sep-13 21:34:57

grin @ Hoopers

Calloh Fri 06-Sep-13 21:39:26

I love Madamecastefiore's advice. It should be printed on speech bubbles and stuck all over the place.

OP you took that impressively well!

mirry2 Fri 06-Sep-13 21:42:38

I'm not sure I understand how a scar can split from driving. It's a horizontal cut, very low down and just above the pubic bone (well, mine is) not a vertical one.

OTTMummA Fri 06-Sep-13 21:56:11

How did she take her own catheter out? They have a little bubble filled with fluid to anchor it in up there which has to be emptied out by syringe before it comes out.
I should know I nearly tore my urethra trying to do it before!

Pachacuti Fri 06-Sep-13 22:03:33

It's right where the lap bit of the seatbelt sits, mirry, so in an emergency stop situation you'd have a lot of force applied directly on the scar. I doubt it would split entirely open but wouldn't be surprised if that caused some problems.

Flatasawitchestit Fri 06-Sep-13 22:08:53

I was driving after 12 days as I had no choice, baby being transferred to another hospital and they wouldn't let me travel with her.

Why you would report anyone let alone family is beyond me.

Ezza1 Fri 06-Sep-13 22:26:02

Oh, I read it that she took her own catheter <in> to hospital. Taking one out would make more sense... blush

Anyway OP - who was it you were thinking of reporting her to?

MajesticWhine Fri 06-Sep-13 22:30:08

I don't think it's necessarily because the scar might split, I think it's incase you don't slam on the brakes in an emergency, because your scar feels sore, and you don't want to hurt it.
But no of course I wouldn't report.

ChippingInNeedsSleepAndCoffee Fri 06-Sep-13 22:31:47

Oh do fuck off.

Lovecat Fri 06-Sep-13 22:32:45

Damn it all to hell! I was all set to respond on page 2 and then I got distracted and the OP came back all reasonable like. sad

I was soooo wanting to post

Bitch, are you on glue???

grin

eatriskier Fri 06-Sep-13 22:36:47

pachacuti I really need you to stop posting on anything, everytime I see you all I can do for the rest of the day is sing 'do the pachacuti'. Its driving my family nuts grin

lovecat I am disappointed that comment wasn't made early on too

wigglesrock Fri 06-Sep-13 22:40:28

You should check with your insurer, but there is no law against driving if your insurance policy doesn't cover you. You are obviously financially liable but if you have an insurance policy in place in the first place it's not against the law. I'm sorry I've made that very "wordy" but I hope you know what I mean smile

queenofdrama Fri 06-Sep-13 22:42:30

Yanbu. Your sil is a selfish bitch.

OnTheBottomWithAWomensWeekly Fri 06-Sep-13 22:43:06

is she? whys that then?

queenofdrama Fri 06-Sep-13 22:45:33

Why are so many babies born via c-section nowadays anyway? Have womenkind forgotten how to give birth?

StephenFrySaidSo Fri 06-Sep-13 22:48:45

far too obvious queen. try harder. grin

blush Confused as to why this is an issue and i wonder what business is it of yours whether she drives, walks or cartwheels around town...

Pachacuti Fri 06-Sep-13 23:11:56

<hums "I drink from their skulls..." innocently in the direction of eatriskier>

queenofdrama Fri 06-Sep-13 23:14:24

Cos she could potentially cause an accident? Innocent lives at risk?

HoopersGinger Fri 06-Sep-13 23:14:27

YABU. BAYOG?

I drove 6 days after cs. I rang insurance company who asked if I could do an emergency stop. .. I confirmed I wasn't very good at doing them before cs smile) (ive crashed a few times. .. im a rubbish driver smile they didn't even mention asking gp and said it was fine.

queenofdrama Fri 06-Sep-13 23:18:20

Ha ha ha. I can give birth naturally with a NO pain relief or intervention. Just like the zillion mothers before me. Ain't I smart?

<survival of the fittest>

noblegiraffe Fri 06-Sep-13 23:27:05

How the fuck did she clean her house the day after a c-section? I had a great recovery and I was still cautious about even sneezing the next day. shock

AnaisB Fri 06-Sep-13 23:30:06

Well done queen, and just to think you life is now at risk cos a lazy c- section mother is driving. Better stay at home and protect those genes.

queenofdrama Fri 06-Sep-13 23:34:02

Yep, I better. Too many loons with fresh, deep 5 inch abdominal scars about.

RawCoconutMacaroon Fri 06-Sep-13 23:35:29

I was signed off as fit to drive by doc 9 days after my section (left hospital after 30hrs, no pain killers after first 2 days).

Some people heal faster, some people might have had a lot less bruising due to a skilled surgeon... There are many variables.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

LoopThePoop Fri 06-Sep-13 23:41:34

There is no signed off.
You can't BE signed off.
You can drive yourself home from hospital UNLESS it has been mentioned in your records you can not drive for some reason

notanyanymore Fri 06-Sep-13 23:45:02

Queen HAHAHA you didn't need a c-section to save the lives of you and your baby. How hilarious! Me and dd were right shitters to have required one not to die! Funny funny funny! If your so interested in survival of the fittest why are you breeding?

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

eatriskier Fri 06-Sep-13 23:47:29

Damn you pachacuti <hums along>

I did a full week's shopping 4 days after my first c sec. Prescription pain relief is a wondrous thing...

KatyPutTheCuttleOn Fri 06-Sep-13 23:50:31

My GP said that it was up the individual to take personal responsibility and that they would not say yes or no and that people had to make their own decision whether or not it was safe. He suggested going with what the insurance company said - which was if the GP said no then I wasn't covered. As the GP said it didn't make much difference what he said, the insurance company would try and wriggle out of paying anyway!

KatyPutTheCuttleOn Fri 06-Sep-13 23:52:15

wiggles isn't it driving without insurance? Or is just having an uninsured car that is an offence?

pigletmania Sat 07-Sep-13 00:02:18

Oh thats god she has your permission then! The 6 week rule probably applies to her straining the scar area and healing, not her ability to drive safely! Yabvu and not very nice!

echt Sat 07-Sep-13 00:18:17

How would the danger of bursting stitches as a driver making an emergency stop be any different from being the passenger?

Echt, you have a very good point.

eatriskier Sat 07-Sep-13 00:28:39

echt I think its because you can hold your belt into an "under the bump" position as a passenger which you can't as a driver. I'm sure the issue isn't the direct outer popping of stitching but inner stitching popping.

echt Sat 07-Sep-13 00:30:48

Still don't get it. So are c-section passengers warned to hold the belt under the bump for six weeks?

Pachacuti Sat 07-Sep-13 00:49:39

I was certainly advised to have something under the lap belt to protect the incision site for a while (I don't think a timeframe was specified).

DropYourSword Sat 07-Sep-13 00:50:29

Is no-one else wondering how she took out her own catheter!?

It's held inside by a small inflated balloon type thing!

Pachacuti Sat 07-Sep-13 00:52:44

As it was I had whooping cough just after my c-section and carried a pillow around with me for weeks to hold over the incision site when I had a coughing fit (which was a lot).

The whooping cough ruled me out of driving for a lot longer than the c-section.

(I don't recommend whooping cough just after a c/s, by the way, just in case any of you were considering it)

MistressDeeCee Sat 07-Sep-13 03:17:46

OP I'm assuming this is your brother's wife. I'm sure if she's driving she knows what precautions to take to protect the incision site. & unless your brother's complaining and worrying about it to you - albeit I'd think its his wife he would discuss with and not you, and if she's still driving its pretty likely he's ok with it - then, what's bothering you?

I actually think 2 weeks is a little soon. I'd maybe just have a chat with her about being worried. But in a concerned way. Wanting to report her = you are a troublemaker.

Ubud Sat 07-Sep-13 03:30:04

There sure are a lot of women out there who need to get themselves a life and some hobbies instead of spending their time twitching the curtains.

ItsNotATest Sat 07-Sep-13 03:37:37

It's nothing to do with protecting the incision site. You will do that instinctively, that is the issue.
You should only drive after any surgery when you can do an emergency stop, ie put your foot hard on the brake without any hesitation or reduced power. The way to find out is to actually try it.

CairngormsClydesdale Sat 07-Sep-13 04:19:58

I drove 10 days after mine. We're not all lazy bed-bound wimps you know.

Oh, and I once drove home the day after abdominal surgery. 100 miles.

You're clearly really fucking wrong about this, why not give her some unsolicited advice about raising her baby? I'm sure she'd appreciate it.

MrsMook Sat 07-Sep-13 04:32:01

In my area the check is at 8wks to time in with baby jabs. I'd had to stop driving 3 weeks before the birth as I thought ice-crusted roads and a bump rubbing the steering where were a bad combination (my road was covered for a month). Between that, recovering from very restrictive SPD, Carpal Tunnel, the EmCS being after a long labour and other complications following the birth, I was in no rush to drive. By week 5 I could walk to the local shops and catch a bus which seemed like bountiful freedom compared to the previous 8wks. My main concern was that driving was a way to facilitate straining myself by lifting the pram/ shopping bags etc, so I was happy to hold on until I felt fairly normal. The only awkward patch was when DS had a hospital ap at 6wks, but it was a time that allowed me to catch two buses there (DH was working away). If that hadn't have worked out, I would have driven. After the patience, the check-up was "are you OK?" and that was about it despite the catalogue of compications I'd had. (I requested more liver function tests as I wasn't happy about the previous result). The Dr seemed amused that I asked about driving as I thought you were supposed to wait to be cleared (but was aware that many don't) After my VBAC it was 4 wks before I drove between a combination of sitting and being able to lift my right leg enough to drive from the SPD. I was less capable of walking anywhere than I was after the CS.

My insurance company made me laugh. When the snow came down, they sent out a blanket email about preparation for driving in snow and safe driving. On it, they reminded people that they should declare if they had a bump. I decided not to declare my bump as I was about to give birth to it and wasn't driving it around grin

OP glad you were motivated by concern about her well-being. Not CS related, but is she aware that to much lifting and abdominal strain is a bad idea until your stomach muscles have come together (applies to any birth). My friend was very quick to resume normality and her fitness programme (she happened to have a CS but this isn't directly relevant) but now has physio many years later as her muscles are still too separate.

PoppyAmex Sat 07-Sep-13 05:13:59

How the hell did she "clean her house top to bottom and ironed the day after she discharged herself from the hospital"?

The day after my c-section I got up, had a shower and that was the extend of my activities!

TheDietStartsTomorrow Sat 07-Sep-13 05:45:35

If you're so concerned then offer to be driver for the next four weeks. You can pick up her groceries, buy nappies, do the school run, chauffeur to and back from doctors etc. then she wouldn't need to drive would she? And your concern would be addressed.

GrassIsntGreener Sat 07-Sep-13 06:01:44

Hah! I live in a tiny village, no public transport and not a single shop or amenity.

Family and friends were great but I couldn't expect them to ferry me about for 6 weeks. Staying in wild have been very detrimental to my health.

What should I have done in that situation?

Madmum24 Sat 07-Sep-13 06:20:24

I drove about 4 days after my 2nd c/s. Walking was much more difficult, kids still needed to go out etc. Your insurance is only invalid ever when you have been medically told NOT to drive, so technically you can drive on the next day if you feel up top it. Actually I had 3 c/s and was given advice not to push a shopping trolley for 3 months, but never regarding driving!

Christmasberry Sat 07-Sep-13 08:34:01

Do you not like your Sil? I drove after two weeks with my first two sections and three weeks after third as I didn't feel ready, she wouldn't drive if she didn't feel up to it.

Sokmonsta Sat 07-Sep-13 09:01:54

I was told to check with my insurance company but the hospital cleared me to drive when I left the hospital 2 weeks after a section. Insurance company said its just the hospital covering themselves and they didn't need to know. They were happy for me to drive as long as I felt able to.

As it happens I didn't drive until 5 weeks after because I didn't need to.

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