To think that children should be inside at 7:30pm and not...

(96 Posts)
BlingLoving Thu 05-Sep-13 19:43:04

Running around screaming in the street? Our neighbour's children are friends with other local children and they all play together which is great. But it's after 7:30 on a week night. Surely they should be inside? I don't care what time other people's children go to bed but I don't want to hear yelling children outside my house at this time of night. And it's also hard on ds who definitely doesn't like it when he's trying to sleep.

So annoying. To be fair, they are usually inside by 7 but on the nights they Aren't it really gets me.

LynetteScavo Thu 05-Sep-13 19:45:02

YANBU.

My DC were out latish in the summer holidays, but I didn't expect children knocking on our door at 6.30pm on a school night.

I nearly told an 8yo it was the bedtime hour. (And my youngest is 8) grin

Yorkieaddict Thu 05-Sep-13 19:47:46

It depends how old the children are? Different children need different amounts of sleep, so I think YAB a bit U to think because your DS needs to go to sleep everyone else's do too.

hardboiledpossum Thu 05-Sep-13 19:49:05

Yabu

livinginwonderland Thu 05-Sep-13 19:50:18

YABU.

DevonCiderPunk Thu 05-Sep-13 19:50:25

Unless total bedlam out there then I think YABU; it is tough trying to get a littler one to sleep when kids are playing outside, though.

Lilyloo Thu 05-Sep-13 19:51:02

Yabu its hardly 10 o clock at night , its 7.30.

The last of the light nights will be coming to an end soon , kids will be stuck inside long enough then.

WipsGlitter Thu 05-Sep-13 19:52:04

Are you my neighbour?? All our neighbourhood kids were out tonight. DS has just come in!

catham Thu 05-Sep-13 19:54:11

oh come on, it's not even dark yet!

Bunbaker Thu 05-Sep-13 19:56:16

How old are the children?

In a couple of weeks time it will be getting dark by 7.30 so it won't matter anyway. At this time of year I encourage DD to make the most of any fine weather/daylight hours available.

wigglesrock Thu 05-Sep-13 19:58:49

YABU. My kids were out until 8pm last night, the weather is beautiful - their homework was done, dinner eaten etc. Not sure why it's any more acceptable for them to be out until 7.45pm on Fri night than say a Wednesday night. Mine come in just after 8, quick shower, in bed for 8.30, asleep 5 mins later!

12thDoctorsCompanion Thu 05-Sep-13 20:02:46

YANBU. tired kids at school the next day. during holidays and weekends is one thing but a schoolnight?

and if kids want to stay out later let them stay in their own gardens/out their own front door/street.

SybilRamkin Thu 05-Sep-13 20:03:08

YABU

TeamSouthfields Thu 05-Sep-13 20:03:46

Hate it when kids are still playing out at 7:30... They have skool in the morning!!!!

catham Thu 05-Sep-13 20:04:51

lol 7.30 is hardly half past ten!

Bunbaker Thu 05-Sep-13 20:06:23

Not all children need as much sleep though. DD has never been a child who needs loads of sleep. I was always envious of parents whose children were fast asleep by 7.30 (and for the next 12 hours).

DD is 13 and although I try to make sure she is in bed for 9 she often isn't asleep until 10 or even after that. She gets up at 6.30.

HeySoulSister Thu 05-Sep-13 20:06:45

Yabu.... Life doesn't revolve around your dc!

valiumredhead Thu 05-Sep-13 20:07:01

Its hardly lategrin

Bowlersarm Thu 05-Sep-13 20:07:26

Yanbu

Sirzy Thu 05-Sep-13 20:08:13

I am a stickler for bedtimes but even I don't think 7.30 is late especially not for older children.

ZeroTolerance Thu 05-Sep-13 20:08:54

What are they doing when they are "out"?

Kneedeepinshittynappies Thu 05-Sep-13 20:10:19

Depends on what they're up to I guess. I get quite confused at the moment as neighbours kids + friends are out till at least 9pm every night screaming and shrieking. My dc are only 18mths and 3 yo and it's getting really hard to settle then with so much noise. Friends parents also like to give their car horns a good blast when they come to pick them up, again can be as late as 10pm. I'm praying for darker, colder nights just so I can get my kids down at a reasonable hour and not have grumpy toddlers all day. So, in my biased opinion YANBU

catham Thu 05-Sep-13 20:10:58

mine is robbin the off licence

PinkSippyCup Thu 05-Sep-13 20:13:53

I really don't think the phase 'this time of night' can be applied to 7.30 on a warm summers night.

Schools round here don't go back until Monday. I can still hear some children outside playing, what's the harm?

gruber Thu 05-Sep-13 20:15:45

YANBU. I could have written kneedeeps post or yours. I am trying to settle a very grumpy DS and don't need shrieking kids outside my (closed) window. I have tolerated them all summer, now I really would like some peace now they're back at school. They can (--and do--) stay up whatever time, doesn't bother me, just don't play right outside my window- it's not even near any of the neighbourhood kids' houses!

Sorry, rant over...

Alibabaandthe40nappies Thu 05-Sep-13 20:16:06

YABu

Bowlersarm Thu 05-Sep-13 20:16:22

This is the sort of thread that makes me feel oh so pleased that we moved to the middle of nowhere....

Used to make us cross, DH more so when the kids were shrieking outside our house and kicking their balls into our cars, when we lived in London.

You need to move OP smile

kali110 Thu 05-Sep-13 20:16:55

Yanbu

MovingForward0719 Thu 05-Sep-13 20:23:03

Aw give it 4 more weeks and they will be stuck in for 6 months. I think yabu a teeny bit but I did used to think the same when mine were younger.

12thDoctorsCompanion Thu 05-Sep-13 20:24:56

Bowlers a lot of us would LOVE to live in the middle of nowhere but we cant afford it. still buying lottery in hope.....

ringaringarosy Thu 05-Sep-13 20:29:00

my kids are usually outside til 8-9pm or later in the summer,thats in the back garden though not in the street-who plays in the bloody street?

Bowlersarm Thu 05-Sep-13 20:29:39

12thDoctorsCompanion in one way I'm sitting in my quiet non-children-playing-outside-and-annoying-me-house smugly.

On the other hand our old London house has increased in value x3 since we sold it. And our country house........hasn't!

We should have put up with the noisy kids for a few years longer....

PipkinsPal Thu 05-Sep-13 20:32:17

Bling I'm with you. Get the same problem around here. It has been dark by 8.30pm and I have heard 2 primary children racing up and down the street on their scooters. Although they do shout and scream earlier in the evening now. During the summer it was constant up until 10pm.

It's not being outside as such that is a problem, it's if they get screamy/screachy. I can accept not everyone wants their kids in and bouncing off the walls at home when it is the last of the summer evenings. But the ones who are over tired, out of control and badly behaved piss me off.

Kids here go to school age 6 so plenty are still home some week days if parents aren't working full time. Because their kids get a lie in till 8am or later they're not so fussed about bedtime. But it's awful being the one who has to drag DD1 in because I know she has to be up before 7.

i have an issue with the screaming at any time of the day tbh. winds me right up!

don't think it's unreasonable for kids to be out playing at 7.30pm tho.
if they're right outside your house it's also not unreasonable for you to ask them to keep the noise down a little bit

everlong Thu 05-Sep-13 20:37:49

Ds aged 7 is in bed reading at 7.30!

How do these kids manage to get up bright and early?

FamiliesShareGerms Thu 05-Sep-13 20:39:11

YABU. 1930 is not that late, the evenings will be too dark to play out very soon, and no wonder there's a childhood obesity problem if children aren't allowed to play out on a lovely warn summery evening.

FamiliesShareGerms Thu 05-Sep-13 20:40:50

Ringarosy, our DC play in the street because we live in London and back gardens are too tiny to play football in

everlong Thu 05-Sep-13 20:42:43

What age are these children OP?

I think if they're older than 8/9 it's not too bad but younger dc need bath and bed before that time in my books.

wearingpurple Thu 05-Sep-13 20:46:00

I let mine (8 and 9) play out till 7 tonight because it was a glorious evening and probably their last chance to enjoy it until 2014.

They've been in bed since 8, though. They get plenty of rest.

MammaTJ Thu 05-Sep-13 20:47:48

Those damn 12 year olds out till 7.30 at night!! Call the police! Or SS!!

hmm

Bunbaker Thu 05-Sep-13 20:47:57

"How do these kids manage to get up bright and early?"

Because not all of them need lots of sleep. See my earlier post.

ihearsounds Thu 05-Sep-13 20:48:29

My youngest was out at 7:30. He had already eaten his dinner. He was in before 8. Had his shower. Read a bit and now snoring. He will wake up for school. He wont be tired. Don't see the problem. I would rather he was out getting fresh air than cooped up inside a stuffy house.

forevergreek Thu 05-Sep-13 20:49:06

7.30 is early IMO. Ours aren't school age yet but toddlers and have just eaten dinner. They are playing with trains with dh atm and will head to bed probably around 9.30pm this eve. They have had a 2 hr nap today and will sleep in until 9am.

At 5 years most children have around 11 hrs sleep. Going to bed at 8.30pm and up at 8am seem perfectly fine for school. And allows them to play out on summer evenings

CoolStoryBro Thu 05-Sep-13 20:58:33

DS has football training until 8pm 3 nights a week and Cubs once a week. He's 8. 730 is really not the bedtime of the average 8 year olds I know. And, as others have said, in a matter of weeks, it will be dark early and they will all be home.

meisiemee Thu 05-Sep-13 21:01:04

Oh let it go as it is only a few nights before its too dark. The kids are just back at school and as long as its not 8:30-9:30 I would close the windows and let them get on with it. Good luck smile

raisah Thu 05-Sep-13 21:07:01

Some kids aged 8-10 have just gone in, they have been playing out unsupervised from 6 until just 20 mins ago. During the sunmer holidays I saw lots of kids hanging around the street corners until a lot later. I have never understood the attraction of hanging around the street corner, I woukd have been bored by it.

Kneedeepinshittynappies Thu 05-Sep-13 21:10:58

Mine are still at it, fwiw they have moved to garden but I can still hear them over tv. I have no issue whatsoever with kids out till whenever really, much better than inside glued to a computer. I just think that at some point it would be nice for our ignorant bastard neighbours to tell the kids to calm it a bit and stop screaming. Kids are 8 and 13 so old enough to understand a bit of consideration.

Kneedeepinshittynappies Thu 05-Sep-13 21:12:11

That's mind gone, car toot and all! Aaaaaaassseeehhhooollles! Feel much better now, thanks op!

JoInScotland Thu 05-Sep-13 21:12:47

Ah, I remember when our neighbour's kids used to kick their football into our old stone wall thereby 1) waking up my baby and 2) knocking the mortar out between the stones. We can't afford to fix it. The mother had said to please tell her if they did anything annoying.... I asked if they could play football at the park RIGHT BESIDE their house, the best park in our town.... she went mental at me. At the time, the boys were 8 and 10. We then had to live beside them for another 2 years while they boys continued to damage the wall by playing football at all hours, and the neighbour woman wouldn't even make eye contact with us. So relieved they moved in July!!!

comingalongnicely Thu 05-Sep-13 21:16:50

TBH 7:30 at night pisses me off just as much as 4:30 in the afternoon.

I don't want to hear kids screaming outside my house at any time of bloody day.

BUT - I was a kid, you were a kid & there will be kids long after your kids are dust. It's what they do. 7:30 is not a problem - it's still light! Just 'cos yours are tucked up, it doesn't mean the rest of them have to be.

Will the acceptable time shift as yours get older & stay up later??

YABU

usualsuspect Thu 05-Sep-13 21:20:59

Yabu.

PrimalLass Thu 05-Sep-13 21:26:49

*What age are these children OP?

I think if they're older than 8/9 it's not too bad but younger dc need bath and bed before that time in my books.*

My 5-year-old is never asleep before 8.30-9. I'd never get her into bed by 7.30.

PrimalLass Thu 05-Sep-13 21:29:26

*What age are these children OP?

I think if they're older than 8/9 it's not too bad but younger dc need bath and bed before that time in my books.*

My 5-year-old is never asleep before 8.30-9. I'd never get her into bed by 7.30.

PrimalLass Thu 05-Sep-13 21:29:53

Oops, DP.

everlong Thu 05-Sep-13 21:32:09

My 7 year old couldn't cope with going to bed at 9pm on a school night. He is shattered after a long day at school, then homework when he gets home.

Crowler Thu 05-Sep-13 21:34:37

I'm absolutely mystified by this playing outside business. I have to plan all my kids' playdates and drop them off, pick them up - what am I doing wrong here?

I think 7.30 is a bit late to be playing outside, my seven year old goes to bed at 7:45. It would be hard for me to pull this off if he heard a lot of kids outside having fun.

BlingLoving Thu 05-Sep-13 21:35:31

The kids range in age from about 4-10. Frankly, I couldn't care less when they go to bed, I just don't want them yelling in the street (and I felt that even before we had ds).

A few minutes after I posted they were called inside and were playing in the bak garden. I have no issue with that as its less immediate and I think they have the right to be outside, just not 2 m from my windows. But there's also less screaming - perhaps because there Are only the two who actually live next door playing at that point so less over excitement.

I don't get the kid centric attitude that says they can disturb the neighbourhood until whenever. We don't let ds play in the back garden before 9. And we don't do noisy things like mow our lawn, front or back, after 7. I simply don't understand people who do. Even if you don't have kids, don't you just want things a little quieter at some point?

Oceansurf Thu 05-Sep-13 21:37:54

YANBU...

Mind you, just so you all know, you can tell the kids who have bedtimes later than 7.30pm.

I'm a teacher grin

usualsuspect Thu 05-Sep-13 21:41:55

I wouldn't expect everyone to be quiet at 7.30,no.

everlong Thu 05-Sep-13 21:46:03

In the holidays ds played out till 8 ish some nights when it was light and sunny. Just up and down on his bike not making any noise or being a nuisance but on a school night that would be way too late.

MammaTJ Thu 05-Sep-13 21:46:41

Oceansurf my DDs bedtime is 7.30, she is now 8 and in year 4. She will go to bed when sent, stay awake until goodness knows when. Most memorable recently was 12.15. She was trying to wake her brother, who sleeps well, come downstairs to sneak food (that she is limited on because of her heart condition) and watch TV. She finally settled then and woke again at 5. I am sure she presents as a child who has a later bedtime though.

FreudiansSlipper Thu 05-Sep-13 21:46:53

ds was in sainsburys at 715 tonight shock

but he is never in bed before 830 and up at 730

muchadoaboutsomething Thu 05-Sep-13 21:50:47

Ds is 3 and usually outside at 7.30, I'd love him to get to bed earlier, but if we try it fails, and he has a tantrum. He sleeps to sometime around 8 though and at 12plus hours sleep why sweat that one.

Misspixietrix Thu 05-Sep-13 22:06:07

I'm wondering If the OP is my Neighbour too? Her Kids are PFB though. I'm giving her until they turn 3 or 4 and then she will See how hard it is! grin OP YNBU because I See where you're coming from re School Nights etc but you are being a bit U too. I think 7:30 is okay. As others have said it will be dark in A few weeks. smile

mamalovesmojitos Thu 05-Sep-13 22:07:23

YABU

morethanpotatoprints Thu 05-Sep-13 22:09:08

YABU because soon it will be dark, cold and kids won't be playing out at all after school.

HeySoulSister Thu 05-Sep-13 22:22:13

Yabu....YOU say not before 9 and not after 7.... Why do you expect everyone to adhere to your timings?

TheUglyFuckling Thu 05-Sep-13 22:30:57

On a school night our dcs are showered and in bed by 7.30pm and they can read until 8pm, bu they're usually asleep by then. It's what they've always done and it means we get a peaceful evening to ourselves and they get all the sleep they need (they're up by 7am).

Jinsei Thu 05-Sep-13 22:37:27

Mind you, just so you all know, you can tell the kids who have bedtimes later than 7.30pm.

I bet you can't. Not always.

My dd has always slept late, regardless of what time she goes to bed. Quite often, she'll just lie awake thinking about stuff. Tonight she didn't drop off until around 10pm.

She'll be fine in the morning, and all day at school. I know, because I've asked her teachers - I used to worry about her lack of sleep. The teachers have all expressed surprise at my concerns, and say that she tends to be one of the more alert children, always full of energy and enthusiasm, always ready to concentrate. You'd probably assume that she has an early bedtime, but she doesn't, and I've stopped worrying now. She just doesn't need as much sleep.

ziggiestardust Thu 05-Sep-13 22:46:15

YANBU. I think the majority of primary age children should be in bed at, or before 9pm, so they need at least an hour of relaxing before bedtime, plus perhaps a quick snack and chat with mum and dad, especially if one parent works late.

To be quite frank; no one wants to hear kids screaming and screeching outside their houses in the evenings. It's really annoying. Really annoying.

FreudiansSlipper Thu 05-Sep-13 22:53:30

how can you tell children who have bedtimes later than 730?

ds has never slept 12 hours. nursery or school have never mentioned to me that he is tired (apart from when he came down with a bug and puked up later that day)

HeySoulSister Thu 05-Sep-13 22:54:57

Lol at being able to 'tell' who has bedtimes past 7.30!!

FreckleyGirlAbroad Thu 05-Sep-13 23:51:39

Wow, this makes me realize how glad I am sometimes to live abroad, where the kids are usually coming out to play around 7pm. One of the reasons I love the street we live in is that all the kids play out in the evenings, parents go out and join them and sit on the kerb keeping an eye on the kids and no-one complains about the noise. It doesn't keep anyone awake as primary age kids don't usually go to bed here until at least 9pm, and I'm a rache and can vouch for the fact that kids do not fall asleep in lessons or under perform because of this. Can't wait until my little one is old enough to join the others playing outside.

FreckleyGirlAbroad Thu 05-Sep-13 23:53:03

Rache* teacher actually!!!

So shut your window?

I grew up in a little cul de sac, and at 3am one school night, My dad got us up, put us in coats and gloves and we went out into the middle of it and threw snowballs as it had been snowing really hard and the snow was fresh and soft, we were shrieking our heads off (there were 4 of us).

The neighbours kids faces popped up at their windows, but they were not allowed out sad

Secretswitch Fri 06-Sep-13 00:08:57

My five year old is fed, read and in bed by 7pm. She has be up by 7am for school. My teens self regulate, I am generally asleep before they are.

Ours (7 and 9) are often still outside at that time (not screaming I might add), I'd rather they were out playing than cooped up inside. We went out for a bike ride after 7 the night before last. They don't need an hour of quiet relaxing before bed (lights out at 9 on weekdays here), the fresh air and exercise tires them out nicely.

NoComet Fri 06-Sep-13 00:18:10

YABU

Alibabaandthe40nappies Fri 06-Sep-13 06:56:31

Ocean what a load of bollocks.

My DS1 went to bed no earlier than 8 all reception year.

I helped out with reading all year and saw all the kids. He was bright eyed and bushy tailed while some others crawled around the classroom yawning.

Oblomov Fri 06-Sep-13 07:04:28

What a load of rubbish. Ds1 needs hardly any sleep and gets up earlier than Me. Ds2 begs to go to bed.
I need loads of sleep.

What are the noise rules in your area? Surely the "quiet time" is not 7.30pm to 9am? In most areas it is more like 10pm to 6/7am.

We live abroad in very orderly and rule abiding Germany, and the kids walk to school from 6.30am onwards (secondary school kids who have a bus to catch for a long journey) and the primary school kids walk to (in our case as we are rural) the bus stop at 7am, chatting and calling out to each other. No noise til 9am is ridiculous - even in the UK the kids have needed to at least briefly be outside on the way to school before 9am!

YABU with your timings - you are expecting 13.5 hours of quiet outside!

moanymandy Fri 06-Sep-13 08:31:03

7.30?! count yourself lucky! They are running around outside my house until 9pm some nights and before the summer holidays it was the same on school nights! shock

BackforGood Fri 06-Sep-13 08:52:10

YABU.
7.30 is hardly a curfew time.
It's part of living in any community - people have different ways of living their lives. They, nor you have any right to complain until it gets to 'unreasonable' levels - which, with children playing, would have to be a LOT later than 7.30

Crinkle77 Fri 06-Sep-13 08:52:15

I think you are being a little unreasonable. The kids in my street are little annoying screaming all the time but they are just children having fun. There probably won't be many nice evenings left and the nights are pulling in fast so let them have a few more days fun while they can. It won't be too long before they are kept in cos it's too dark. I have to say I am depressed at the nights pulling in and am really enjoying the last of the nice weather.

PrimalLass Fri 06-Sep-13 22:10:55

To be quite frank; no one wants to hear kids screaming and screeching outside their houses in the evenings. It's really annoying. Really annoying.

I just can't imagine getting really annoyed by the sound of children just playing outside.

PipkinsPal Sat 07-Sep-13 16:15:20

PrimalLass - no? Well you are lucky. Its not the playing its the screaming and shouting on top of their voices. They never shout outside their own homes, just move down the road to neighbours and annoy the hell out of them. Children have the right to play but I also have the right to peace in my own home. Double glazing doesn't block the noise out either.

PresidentServalan Sat 07-Sep-13 16:24:07

If they are noisy then they shouldn't be out! It's not even about waking smaller children up, it's just annoying!

Viking1 Sat 07-Sep-13 16:32:28

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

PipkinsPal Sat 07-Sep-13 16:40:22

I think that's the difference in agreeing to disagree. You have children thereby you can "switch off", I don't and I can't.

goodasitgets Sat 07-Sep-13 16:46:57

I don't care what time they are out until. I do care about the endless screaming
People say oh it's just children playing. I've seen the consequences of a child that screamed all the time, and when one day she was screaming and did need help we got there too late

judgejudithjudy Sat 07-Sep-13 21:40:05

yabu - wanting the whole street to be quiet because your pfb cant sleep. if you dont like the noise then move to the middle of nowhere. tbh i love the sound of happy children ;-)

kali110 Sun 08-Sep-13 23:51:40

Can understand op. got no problem with kids playing but their right to play doesnt trump my right to not have to put up with constant screaming.i ised to go to bed at 9 on fridays so i coud get up for work on sat at 430am. Kids would be screaming up and down my road till 10 keeping me awake.
I shouldnt have to (nor can i afford it) move. They shouldnt be screaming at the top of their lungs. I personally don think kids under 12 should be out till 9 and 10 on their own for ages either for their own safety.

SilverStreak7 Mon 09-Sep-13 12:51:42

I really wish that's all I had to fret about ! Its hardly late and as others have pointed out the evenings will soon be drawing in now and no kids will be playing out . .Some of you people should perhaps go live on some remote Island with no neighbors to disturb your dc or yourselves.

ghostspirit Mon 09-Sep-13 13:10:18

right its 7.30 all of you be quite. your keeping my children awake shhhhh

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