To really want a cold, cold winter?

(230 Posts)
Sparklymommy Tue 03-Sep-13 08:08:42

Just that really. I have enjoyed the summer, don't get me wrong, but I long for a proper winter. Christmas card scenes with snow and frozen ponds.

Sirzy Tue 03-Sep-13 08:09:37

YABU. I hate cold cold winters as that invariably means multiple hospital trips for DS. A nice mild winter will do nicely thank you!

My heating bill says yabu.

Fakebook Tue 03-Sep-13 08:12:43

YABU. Just keep your little wishes to yourself. Last year was horrible and it lasted until May. Was that not long enough and cold enough for you?

I'm hoping for a nice winter (without snow) that doesn't linger on into spring and summer.

BrownSauceSandwich Tue 03-Sep-13 08:12:45

Freezing weather --> struggling to get to work with both wrists intact. Ugh! Definitely unreasonable.

MrsDoomsPatterson Tue 03-Sep-13 08:12:46

It's ok if you don't have to get to work/school/anywhere in deep snow. Elderly folk who can't afford to heat more than one room or suffering from chest infections.

Nice to look at but in reality, it sucks.

DaddyPigsMistress Tue 03-Sep-13 08:13:11

High fuel bills
Trudging everywhere in the cold rain
Snotty noses
Defrosting the car
Country grinding to a halt

That's winter.

Yabu

Nancy66 Tue 03-Sep-13 08:13:23

I like the though of a biting cold winter. the reality though isn't as pleasant.

livinginwonderland Tue 03-Sep-13 08:14:09

No thanks, I can't afford the heating bills!

funkybuddah Tue 03-Sep-13 08:16:45

Im with the op, a couple of weeks of nice snow, couple of snow days but by January 1st it can start spring-ing up again cool frosty autumn too.

wonkylegs Tue 03-Sep-13 08:17:04

I'd like a lovely autumn, followed by a short winter with a few days of snow to keep me DC happy building snowmen, but otherwise mild.
Definitely not long and drawn out like previous years, my joints don't like it and ice makes me worried I'll fall and finally break my hip, also concerned about sky high bills in our new beautiful not so practical Victorian house.

siezethenight Tue 03-Sep-13 08:18:42

The only time snow and cold days are nice is Christmas Eve, starting about 5pm and Christmas Day and Boxing Day. After that its a huge thaw with high temps so the thaw does not ice up and back to being able to drive without skidding about like a lunatic. I have to drive every day up and down steep hills, walking is out of the question, its a 7 mile drive and no bus route. I hate driving those hills in the ice and snow, there's nothing like it to make you pee your pants, hold your breath to break the world record and want to cry as you realise - you have no breaks! The only upside of having to drive on it is, you are not at home therefore the heating is off.

StormyBrid Tue 03-Sep-13 08:20:06

Last winter involved throwing forty quid into the gas meter every week just to stay warm. You can have a long cold winter when I've won the lottery.

AndHarry Tue 03-Sep-13 08:20:32

Yes to a snowy Christmas as long as it's all melted and back to normal on Boxing Day. Snow is a PITA.

MonstersDontCry Tue 03-Sep-13 08:20:48

YABU. My DP works outside and I hate seeing him suffer because of the weather every winter.

Hawkmoth Tue 03-Sep-13 08:21:47

Not got Raynaud's then? envy smile

cq Tue 03-Sep-13 08:24:09

Cold, cold - yes. But short short please. Was nearly suicidal last May when still walking the dogs in a bloody ski jacket FFS.

sparkle12mar08 Tue 03-Sep-13 08:25:01

I would like a crisp cool winter. Not a truly freezing cold one like last year. And more importantly, that coolness must be dry. A crisp, cool, but dry winter would be my ideal. But only if it follows a proper autumn, dry, bright and breezy days with reddening leaves and just a hint of frosts to come.

ShadeofViolet Tue 03-Sep-13 08:25:37

The last few years DS2 and I have had to slide to school, my heating bills have gone through the roof and DD broke her arm last year falling over.

YABU.

I prefer a cold dry winter to a soggy wet one.

But I cannot afford a freezing one! However I'd love a cosy Christmas as you describe grin

IJustNeedANap Tue 03-Sep-13 08:28:27

YABU I hate it when it's to cold

Awomansworth Tue 03-Sep-13 08:29:59

YABVU.

You obviously don't live in a house with no gas supply... oil bill for last winter was not magical at all.

SilverApples Tue 03-Sep-13 08:33:53

I love the cold and the snow and ice, I don't want endless days of rain.
My DS struggles when the temperature is high, and he's had a long summer. His broken thermostat means he overheats, can't sleep and gets grumpy and irritable. He does try to recognise why, but he loves the cold.

I used to love a good winter but toddler ds has a dicky chest and has been in hospital before with it, winter for me now is checking the boy a few times a day - warm enough, breathing clearly, no rasping, no cold symptoms etc - trying to keep clothes on him, making sure his inhaler is handy/packed etc.

If it was just me I'd say yanbu but with my having an ill baby yabu.

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 08:34:42

Sliding to the bus stop in the mornings, standing freezing at the bus stop, heating bills sky high.

Although I like a bit of snow,as long as it doesn't hang about for weeks.

Oblomov Tue 03-Sep-13 08:34:45

No. I don't want that. It makes driving frightening. Slippery roads. School and work closures, at the first drop of snow.

NO THANKS.

SunnyL Tue 03-Sep-13 08:35:44

Im with you. Id love another winter with tonnes of snow. I can go skiing and sledging and throw snowballs. I love walking my dog in the snow too. I flipping hate the rainy winters we get when its milder.

Although i miss my old car when it snows. Quite frankly the best car ever to drive in the snow was my Fiat Seciento. Used to go do doughnuts in the empty car park at work. Cant help but scream wheeeeeeee really loudly when i drove that car.

RunFatGirlRun Tue 03-Sep-13 08:36:22

I used to LOVE winter until last year when we moved to Norfolk and a beautiful but FREEZING Victorian end-of-terrace in the middle of the coldest winter in living memory

our first fuel bill was so high we spent the rest of the winter terrified to put the heating on

Sometimes I was so cold I would just randomly start crying confused

I'd do the washing up really slowly because it helped me get warm

I remember lying in bed in a dressing gown and socks under several blankets at about 7pm in an attempt to get warm - and realising I couldn't read my book because sticking my hand out of the cover made it ache with cold!

So...yes. Hopefully this winter we can afford to heat the house properly.

IDKWYABUON grin

hmmm, I'm split on this one.

Yes to snow (loads) and frost and clear starry nights.

No to sky high heating bills, feeling cold all the time.

You can tell autumn is knocking on the door with the threads about!

Monkeyandanimal Tue 03-Sep-13 08:38:48

I'd love a cold cold winter; IMO you are less likely to get ill when the weather is bitingly cold than when it is just cold and damp. All the bugs are more likely to get wiped out by cold crisp air, whereas they just breed and multiply in damp conditions if it is not cold enough to wipe them out. whenever we have a mild winter we all get ill much more in my family.

CatAmongThePigeons Tue 03-Sep-13 08:38:58

A cool crisp winter- fine. A cold wet/icy one- no thanks. The hills around here are lethal with the merest hint of ice, but luckily we rarely get ice/snow. We only had three ground frosts last year, it was surreal watching the weather in other parts of the country.

soverylucky Tue 03-Sep-13 08:39:19

Frozen pipes and no water for a week - no thanks.

A couple of snow days on a weekend or over the Christmas holiday is enough. I used to long for very cold winters. Now I have experienced several of them with young children I know that the reality is horrible.

MortifiedAdams Tue 03-Sep-13 08:40:13

YANBU. I want a proper winter!!!

SoonToBeSix Tue 03-Sep-13 08:42:15

Yabu I have arthritis the cold is painful and gas expensive

MyNameIsSuz Tue 03-Sep-13 08:43:09

I'm with you, I love winter! I'm already excited at the prospect of a chilly and crisp yet sunny autumn, and can't wait to crack out the coat and boots! Only issue this year is DS is just starting to walk, so if it's icy I think we might have some trouble...

knitted dresses, boots, scarfs, soup
are the good things about winter

i prefer the summer though

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 08:46:38

I've loved this summer.

I will be sad when it's over.

Backinthebox Tue 03-Sep-13 08:46:48

I work in aviation, and after 15 years am still constantly amazed by how our country struggles so much in the snow! Any snow at all can cause unbelievable disruption, and we are expected to happily get on with it - some years when it has snowed people at work have missed Christmas, funerals, etc.

I should hate the snow, it's a pain. Nevertheless there is something very compelling about it! I'd like a couple of weeks of proper winter too.

brightnearly Tue 03-Sep-13 08:47:00

No thank you! Last winter was enough! And it's never like in Finland or Russia, too wet and miserable...

RussiansOnTheSpree Tue 03-Sep-13 08:49:32

YANBU I too want a properly cold and long winter. But no floods this year please.

YABU.I love the winters back home (Finland) but I can't afford to heat the house and I will be careering around with a pram and so on, and getting to work will be a nightmare.

Meglet Tue 03-Sep-13 08:53:22

Noooo, YABU! My heating bills are huge as it is.

Snow doesn't really affect us as we're in the town centre and can walk to work / shops / school. But cold winters cost money so boring and mild will do me.

BuskersCat Tue 03-Sep-13 08:56:39

YANBU, we can afford to heat the house this winter. Am looking forward to being warm

insanityscratching Tue 03-Sep-13 09:05:07

No YABU I hate the snow and the cold. Travelling is a nightmare and the heating is costly. I don't mind the bright and frosty days though, find them much better than wind, rain and fog

RussiansOnTheSpree Tue 03-Sep-13 09:06:59

I want it to be properly cold so that I can be properly warm!!!!

hermioneweasley Tue 03-Sep-13 09:07:51

YABU. Do you live in a bubble, OP?

TheNaughtySausage Tue 03-Sep-13 09:12:51

I used to wish that then after three awful long cold winters and snow in April this year I am really hoping for a short one this time.

Although YANBU about a snowy, cosy Christmas grin

YABU

my second baby is due on 2nd Jan, I could do without getting snowed in / falling on ice!

Lovecat Tue 03-Sep-13 09:16:39

`YABU - wasn't this six month winter we've just had long enough? Our heating bills were ridiculous, no way can we do that again!

SilverApples Tue 03-Sep-13 09:17:32

We all live in a bubble Hermione, we all handle things differently with different issues. This is just a fun thread, isn't it? smile

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 09:26:01

Well,not being able to afford to heat your house is no fun.

But we all have a romantic veiw of the seasons,the reality is often very different.

Sparklymommy Tue 03-Sep-13 09:26:37

Aaw, got engrossed reading the Weasley thread, come back and all hell has broken out! grin

For those of you complaining about heating bills- we have no central heating (shock! Horror!) and no gas. Our electric is on a prepay meter and yes, it does get expensive when the fire is on constantly, but it doesn't take much to warm our small lounge and we have a couple of heaters I move around the bedrooms to take the chill off and lots of hot water bottles/ blankets!

I too have a child with asthma, and a mother who lives with us with severe asthma but to be honest as a pp says, you are less likely to get ill in bitingly cold weather. It doesn't have to be a long winter, just a couple (maybe 4) weeks of freezing cold and snow. Crisp and luscious.

Sirzy Tue 03-Sep-13 09:28:11

Tell my asthmatic DS he is less likely to get cold in bitingly cold weather. He is nearly 4 and since he was 8 weeks old EVERY time it has snowed he has ended up being admitted to hospital including a stay in HDU.

Sparklymommy Tue 03-Sep-13 09:28:28

Pretty sure last winter was quite mild really. Wet. I'm not a fan of wet to be honest. Snow- yes/ rain not so much!

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 09:28:40

I will allow you 2 weeks of snow over Christmas grin

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 09:30:07

Last winter was freezing, especially the week my boiler broke and cost me an arm and a leg in repairs.

LickleLemon Tue 03-Sep-13 09:32:34

A bit of snow over Xmas would be nice but no I hate scraping ice off my car early in the morning and the way my asthma kicks off in the cold.

sparkle12mar08 Tue 03-Sep-13 09:33:47

Are you in the very south east or west Sparklymommy?! Last winter was the second coldest since the 1960's If I remember correctly! That's the second coldest in living memory for many of us!

valiumredhead Tue 03-Sep-13 09:34:55

In with you,I like winter just hate snow for more than 2 days!

LadyClariceCannockMonty Tue 03-Sep-13 09:35:56

I am an advocate of all the seasons, in their place, at full strength.

Sweltering summers with beautiful evenings, lush and golden autumns, bright, breezy, springs full of flowers and snow, frost and clear freezing blue skies in winter.

So no, YANBU and I want one too!

But I would have liked a long sweltering summer rather than the sorry excuse for one we've had.

maybe3x Tue 03-Sep-13 09:38:33

Yanbu, cold but dry with a week or two of snow around Christmas please, and all over by the end of Feb would be great smile

I'm an Autumn bird, love this time of year grin

Pascha Tue 03-Sep-13 09:40:45

Yes to 2 weeks of snow over christmas, preferably to clear up on 2nd Jan so everyone can sod off back to work/school, and DS2's birthday on 5th Jan isn't compromised.

Autumn should run from late sept to early dec, then winter from early dec to mid feb, then a nice early spring.

mrsjay Tue 03-Sep-13 09:42:12

frozen ponds FROZEN pondsgrin how about frozen streets and pavements people grabbing bread and milk from shops by the trolleyful and the council run out of grit AGAIN that is what our cold winters are like

TheSmallPrint Tue 03-Sep-13 09:42:29

Last winter was mild?? shock My monthly bill for gas went from £90 a month to £175 a month because of last winter!

I don't want a winter at all, I hate snow and ice, I live in a very hilly part of England with it's own micro climate and once it freezes here it's like that for bloody ages even when everywhere else has defrosted. After 9 years of snowy winters here I am actually considering buying a 4WD before the end of autumn and I thought that was something I would never hear myself say as I hate them.

mrsjay Tue 03-Sep-13 09:43:14

we had ice here for weeks last winter it wasn't mild it was freezing

miffybun73 Tue 03-Sep-13 09:43:40

YANBU, I agree. I'd love some really freezing cold, but sunny weather.

emuloc Tue 03-Sep-13 09:49:13

No no and no I really cannot afford to heat my home all winter. I dread to think of the prices going up again like they normally do just in time for winter!

Sparklymommy Tue 03-Sep-13 10:01:21

I am in the southwest yes.

I like snow! Haha! And we don't get enough of it down here.

That said I don't want people to suffer, just like winter to be wintry and summer to be summery. This summer has been the best for years! Now for a decent, cold , crisp winter please!

valiumredhead Tue 03-Sep-13 10:03:01

Lady-sorry excuse for a summer? Where do you live?! It's been gorgeous weathershock shock

MrsApplepants Tue 03-Sep-13 10:03:45

Yes, ice and all the road accidents that brings is just brilliant isn't it. Having to pay high energy bills, also fun.

YABU

jojane Tue 03-Sep-13 10:04:50

A nice sunny September followed by a cool crisp October and November with rain overnight. December can be cold but dry with snow on Xmas eve, Xmas day and boxing day, tailing off towards new years eve. Jan and feb can be cold but march and April must be sunny with rain overnight, may and june must be warm and July and August must be hot.

MalcolmTuckersMistress Tue 03-Sep-13 10:06:03

Fucking hell OP, don't you remember last winter? It started in about May 2012 and didn't end until the beginning of June this year!

Winter can get to twattery.

RussiansOnTheSpree Tue 03-Sep-13 10:06:16

It was freezing in the South West last winter, we had some of the very coldest weather! Also, the wettest. Which ruined it.

I am old, and I grew up without central heating. As did DH. You wear lots of jumpers. And you carry round a hot water bottle at all times, and you have blankets ad wooly socks and gloves indoors and it's brilliant.

Love a cold winter, me.

mrsjay Tue 03-Sep-13 10:06:30

I think that we should have proper seasons it has all seemed int he last few years but I hate the snow and ice It can be freezing and sunny that is my ideal winter

Bowlersarm Tue 03-Sep-13 10:07:19

Well if you are going to order in a load of snow for about two weeks over Christmas and school holidays when we don't have to move from the house, then I'm with you.

But if it is four months of having to drive in icy conditions, then I'm not. We have loads of accidents along our road when the weather is good, but when it's wet there are loads of car crashes. DSes catch train to school so that would be nightmarish if they get stuck somewhere. I don't mind being cold, but I don't want lives at jeopardy!

Beastofburden Tue 03-Sep-13 10:09:40

what jojane said

LadyBryan Tue 03-Sep-13 10:11:07

Erm didn't we have one last year? The 10 foot of snow we had suggests we did.....

BalloonSlayer Tue 03-Sep-13 10:14:46

Remember when we were all moaning in July about the shops not having any summer stuff in when we all wanted it?

They listened and all the shops now have flip flops etc still in which is great for the fag-end of summer.

BUT I WANT BOOTS! BOOTS, YOU HEAR ME? BOOTS!

September is boots shopping time. And I am justified in getting some this year as my last year's ones have got a hole in them.

MissHC Tue 03-Sep-13 10:15:55

No, no, no to a cold winter. DC1 due in November and I don't fancy having to sit in the house every day on mat leave because of snow/ice/etc.

SilverApples Tue 03-Sep-13 10:16:52

I'm all for putting jojane in charge of the weather.

georgettemagritte Tue 03-Sep-13 10:18:54

YABU - ended up spending over 200 pounds a month on heating to keep rickety old rental house warm enough for newborn last winter. Dry mild winter this year please!!

LadyClariceCannockMonty Tue 03-Sep-13 10:19:31

valium, I'm in the Big Smoke. Yes, we've had some nice hot weather, but it's been punctuated with too much rain and cold (there were cold spells in July and August and this week is no great shakes so far).

We didn't even have remotely pleasant weather, bar the odd day, until about June.

I'd like an actual summer, where it's warm and sunny, that runs fairly unbroken from about June to the middle/end of September. British weather is just too up and down.

TooMuchRain Tue 03-Sep-13 10:21:55

YANBU, I love a short sharp winter with lots of snow - especially if I am on holiday and don't have to worry about how on earth to get to work

Latara Tue 03-Sep-13 10:24:00

YABU - my gas bill is high enough thanks and i'm still waiting for my home to be insulated!

SoleSource Tue 03-Sep-13 10:28:26

YABU second to poo, snow is the most disgusting substance on earth for us.

DS is blind and walking for him is out of the question especially on ice.

Last winter was mild? Really? I'm up in Fife - the coldest night here was -18c. That's not mild, especially as I was out working in it. We had snow here right up to the middle of May!

A short sharp bit of winter, yes. Then nice and mild please. YABU

melika Tue 03-Sep-13 10:31:44

no don't feel we have had enough sun yet, just had solar panels fitted, so another 2 months of good weather please!

PoopMaster Tue 03-Sep-13 10:32:16

YANBU - we FINALLY bought a sled this spring and DD1 (2yo) will be big enough to go on it with me smile

...though YABU as DD2 will only be 6mo and a right pita to cart around on slippery surfaces...

jacks365 Tue 03-Sep-13 10:33:11

I seem to recall struggling through 5 foot deep snow drifts last year to get the dc to the bus to school or to get to the shops. The water supply is spring water so no comment on that. I could do with not repeating last year. The dc did get lots of practice at skiing so they enjoyed it at first but even they got fed up.

Owllady Tue 03-Sep-13 10:33:51

I live rural and dread it being so bitter sad

GooseyLoosey Tue 03-Sep-13 10:34:57

Cold would be fine, but not long. The last winter went on forever.

Owllady Tue 03-Sep-13 10:35:21

and we have oil in the country, it's not like having gas where you pay for it (in most cases) afterwards. We have to pay upfront and it's expensive and some companies wont deliver in snow depending on the lane access
and then the electric goes off for hours at a time and the phone lines go down
it's bloody miserable

<plays small violin>

CatAmongThePigeons Tue 03-Sep-13 10:35:56

It was really mild in my part of the SW, the moors had snow, but we didn't even have a frost, we are sheltered in my part. I miss the north of the County in winter, they had proper snow!

The rain can sod right orf tyvm.

HotCrossPun Tue 03-Sep-13 10:37:35

Winter is by far my favourite season.

Coming home from work feels like such a treat. Its nice and dark outside, twinkly lights, soup, scarves, proper full length pyjamas, Christmas trees, etc.

Although this winter I will be very, very pregnant, so I'm hoping for a short one!

allmycats Tue 03-Sep-13 10:38:26

Where do these people live who did NOT have a long, bitterly cold winter.
You can have what you want sparkly as long as you pay my gas bill and get my son from his home to work everyday in the Scottish Highlands.

Sparklymommy Tue 03-Sep-13 10:39:35

Aaw, I am so jealous of all you that had snow last winter. I bought a sledge in November (because we had been promised snow). It is still unused. I'm not looking for a LONG winter, just a couple of weeks over Christmas and new year and then spring can come. I'm with jojane when it comes to the weather.

I don't want lives to be lost, just a decent wintry scene with hot stews, hot chocolate and comfy Jumpers!

Manchesterhistorygirl Tue 03-Sep-13 10:42:14

It can snow on Christmas and Boxing Day and that's it! Yes it's gorgeous to look at, but getting out and about? Nope.

SoleSource Tue 03-Sep-13 10:43:22

usual grin

highlandbird Tue 03-Sep-13 10:49:52

A cold crisp winter, great, less illness and less mud...a cold, COLD winter, no thanks, cba with weeks of no water and diesel freezing in car meaning I can't go out and in the generator meaning we can't have central heating on. Oh and ice on the inside of the windows in the morning, brrrrr!
YABU!

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 10:51:10

It's a beautiful day here, is it cold in London today?

I'm in the Midlands.

NoComet Tue 03-Sep-13 10:52:12

Proper snow when all our outside Christmas lights are up looks magic.

A couple of days with school shut at the end of Jan. when everyone is bored of being back is always appreciated.

Lots of drawn out cold, please no, my boiler drinks oil.

Also DD1 is doing GCSEs, so I'm honour bound to try to get her to school if it's open. Half hearted snow that disrupts the buses on our lanes, but not the main roads is a nightmare. Likewise DH can work from home if it's really bad.

3ft or more please!

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 10:52:14

And this summer has been the best in years.

My toilet froze over last winter. DP enjoyed cracking the thin layer of ice with morning pee hmm

No repeat of that thanks!

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 10:56:07

I've hardly had my cardi on all summer, so it must have been warm.

It's only 13 weeks since winter finished - are you a goldfish grin?

crescentmoon Tue 03-Sep-13 11:04:46

i just donated my snow boots to the charity shop last week, i bought them to get through the very cold and snowy winter of 2010 but have hardly worn them since. sod's law being what it is this has probably guaranteed a freezing cold winter this year, and it if it so then im just going to hibernate through instead!

TheSmallPrint Tue 03-Sep-13 11:15:56

I'm in Bucks and it's a glorious day today. But this is the familiar story very close by.

TheSmallPrint Tue 03-Sep-13 11:16:48

-19.6 degrees in 2010 - feel free to come and spend you winter here! grin

Abra1d Tue 03-Sep-13 11:18:13

I'm with silverapples, short, sharp snowy spell fine by me, but not the months of endless cloud and grey we had here last year.

RobinSparkles Tue 03-Sep-13 11:20:08

It can be cold and snowy for the whole of December of it wants, but after the 1st of January it can fuck the fuck off!

Thepowerof3 Tue 03-Sep-13 11:21:15

YABU, we just HAD one like that last year

woozlebear Tue 03-Sep-13 11:35:57

Oh you load of moaning minnies! grin

YANBU. I want a lovely cold winter too, but not just long gloomy cloudy wet cold, proper crisp frosty cold. My favourite weather.

People worried slipping over - get some yaktraks. Brilliant things. (Really, the problem with british snow is that there's not enough of it. So it snows once and then stays on the ground for a week getting compacted and re-freezing every night until it's an ice rink. A nice fresh layer would help a lot smile, or if it was so cold during the day it stayed nice and dry and fluffy not all wet and squishy).

everlong Tue 03-Sep-13 11:39:12

YabsoooU.

What about all the people who struggle to pay for fuel?

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit Tue 03-Sep-13 11:43:00

I just want proper seasons. Cold and snowy winter (no rain), proper spring, with light spring storms, lovely warm and sunny summer, cozy autumn with changing leaves and light frosts. I'm sick of this year round drizzle and grey and either warm and sticky and gross, or cold and wet and gross. I think I need to move to New England or somewhere like that.

LadyBryan Tue 03-Sep-13 11:55:07

Ok. How about compromise. I'll allow a white Christmas.

But I'd rather not be snowed in alone with DD for 4 days next winter grin

furfoxsake Tue 03-Sep-13 11:56:37

I want one too so YANBU.
Had a log burner installed in April and am dying to use it in anger, Day After Tomorrow stylee.

Plus my Summer has been crap.

spiderlight Tue 03-Sep-13 12:11:21

Oooh, yes please - I love proper crisp cold winter weather! I've just been ordering DS a lovely sherpa fleece hoodie and browsing sledges on Amazon grin

valiumredhead Tue 03-Sep-13 12:26:26

I really don't think it's that hard to warm up even with fuel as expensive as it is. You do have to adapt granted, wear jumpers and thick socks, electric blanket or hot bottle, maybe heat fewer rooms. When I complained about the hot weather I was told to suck it up, now it's my turnwink

valiumredhead Tue 03-Sep-13 12:27:44

People forget how to dress for the weather imo they want to walk around inside with at t shirt on and bare feet and expect to be warm-yes Dh, I'm talking about you!

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit Tue 03-Sep-13 12:29:00

I love all the slippers and jumpers and woolly hats and mittens and just the cozyness of winter. Plus, more flattering on lumpy bits.

RunFatGirlRun Tue 03-Sep-13 12:29:46

See I used to think that Valium - until this last winter. I work from home and my study has 2 large windows and 2 external walls. I had thermals, a tracksuit, a dressing gown, a quilt wrapped round me, a woolly hat, and these massive slipper boot things, and I was still so cold I couldn't concentrate sad

I eventually gave in and bought an additional heater for that room - but was then so worried about fuel costs we turned the central heating down and just lived in that room for 3 days grin

I still do like winter though. I reckon this year I'll be more prepared for it...

valiumredhead Tue 03-Sep-13 12:33:23

External walls do make it cooler I agree. I feel the same in the summer though, can't bare it,I love 20 degrees and that's it!

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit Tue 03-Sep-13 12:34:09

Anything above about 23 degrees has me lying on the floor asking to be put out of my sweaty misery.

RunFatGirlRun Tue 03-Sep-13 12:37:28

grin It's weird how much my feelings have changed - I was always counting off the days until autumn, much to everyone's annoyance...but I swear. We had -12 degrees here and money worried and no escape to an office, and at once point I remember crying and thinking "I can't remember what it's like not to be cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooold" <sound of tiny tiny violins>

Now that we're not busted broke and I know a bit better what to expect from flipping Norfolk in January I am looking forward to it. Crisp walks on the cathedral lawn followed by hot chocolate and whatnot

I don't know why I'm posting since I can't make my mind up confused

SirChenjin Tue 03-Sep-13 12:49:03

Rather than wishing for a cold winter OP from the SW of England, why don't you move up here to Scotland? The NE gets it really bad. You too could have months of sub-zero temperatures, ice, fog, horizontal freezing rain, snow, sleet, sky high heating bills, long-awaited plans cancelled at the last minute because of the weather, public transport at a standstill, horrible driving conditions, an increase in hospital admissions, high demand for homeless shelters, school closures that you have to use valuable annual leave for or take unpaid leave, twice daily car scraping....

Oh yeah, winter's a fucking laugh a minute.

CheungFun Tue 03-Sep-13 12:54:29

Nooooo! I've just learnt to drive and I will be terrified if I've got to drive in ice and or snow! A nice mild winter for me please smile

Although it can snow Chrisas week as I've booked the week off work!

samu2 Tue 03-Sep-13 12:56:31

Noo! I get depressed in the winter and I am so cold blooded that I spend most of winter being miserable.

valiumredhead Tue 03-Sep-13 13:09:37

Sir Chen-you could always move further South?grin

TheSmallPrint Tue 03-Sep-13 13:28:02

Valium did you not see our -19 degrees?? grin

cumfy Tue 03-Sep-13 13:29:47

Scottish holiday ?

BonaDea Tue 03-Sep-13 13:33:02

Yanbu.

Proper summer and proper winter.

sonlypuppyfat Tue 03-Sep-13 13:33:27

Don't want huge heating bills , but I seem to be an age where this summer has been a living hell I only have to move and I have been soaking in sweat. My face has been the colour of a turkey cocks arse. I'm hot in the winter its been awful

goodasitgets Tue 03-Sep-13 13:37:02

No thanks grin
Work will get busier with people constantly falling over, and if I can't get to work then mountain rescue will come and get me

Betrayedbutsurvived Tue 03-Sep-13 13:38:27

Yeah bring it on. Who cares about the elderly, homeless and those in fuel poverty who could easily freeze to death when there's picture post card Christmas scenes on offer.

melliebobs Tue 03-Sep-13 13:39:07

YANBU I've friggen hated this hot summer. I'm so glad I work in a gym so have extra cold air con! Winter I love. Freezing cold, crunchy ground frost n clear skies. Lovely. Rainy winter not so!

valiumredhead Tue 03-Sep-13 13:40:07

Plenty of illnesses made worse by the heat too.

Sirzy Tue 03-Sep-13 13:41:52

Yup that makes DS ill too.

Much as I love winter (well I think I still do I have lived away so long) This winter will be my first one living in UK for a long long time, a mild one would help us settle back in without me having to listen to Dh whine about the cold. so crossed fingers for a mild one from me. I'll be back this week.<happy dance>

RussiansOnTheSpree Tue 03-Sep-13 14:12:10

I didn't notice anybody caring much about the people for whom this horrendously hot summer has been torture.

valiumredhead Tue 03-Sep-13 14:18:37

Quite Russians

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 14:58:20

Well TBF, you don't spend so much money on heating bills in summer.

Nor do you take your life in your hands sliding down the hill to the bus stop

Nor do buses stop running.

RussiansOnTheSpree Tue 03-Sep-13 15:19:20

Well, TBF, you don't end up in A&E for 6 hours watching your 9 year old child being put on a drip and being given a battery of neurological tests because she has collapsed with heatstroke in winter.

You don't get sunburn in winter (unless you go skiing)

You don't spend a complete fortune on factor 50 suncream in winter

You don't get hayfever in winter

You don't get sunstroke in winter

You can't get away from the heat in summer, but in winter you cn wear lots and lots and lots of layers

It doesn't matter whether you can run for the bus or not, in summer - you ca't travel safely on a bus in extreme heat if you are likely to throw up or collapse (or if your child is).

So. To sum up - it's unreasonable for someone to have a go at people for wanting a cold winter on the basis that they don't care about others, since tht basis is never applied to people wanting a hot summer; it's also unreasonable to say that a hot summer doesn't bring specific icy related problems and imply that those are the only problems that matter. They aren't.

This summer has been bloody awful for my family, and I am perfectly entitled to hope for a nice long cold winter.

Sirzy Tue 03-Sep-13 15:21:49

I don't like very hot or very cold weather. Both cause too many problems!

heronsfly Tue 03-Sep-13 15:24:26

Yanbu, I would like a proper cold winter too,not just soggy days full of wind and rain, but real crisp days grin.
My favorite threads on mn are the 'snow' ones,everyone is always so Naice, I keep checking to see if there is a long term weather thread yet.

cerealqueen Tue 03-Sep-13 15:25:26

I like the romantic idea of it.... snow, and frosty mornings and lots of fires. In reality, huge heating bills, a boiler that may not be up to it, illness (I was the sickest I've ever been last February) whilst looking after two under 5.

Maybe a snowy three days at Christmas and then it all melts for a mild winter.

cerealqueen Tue 03-Sep-13 15:28:31

I do have a better winter wardrobe than summer tho!

Bubbles1066 Tue 03-Sep-13 15:41:02

I prefer winter to summer as I burn easily, hate suncream (brings me out in a rash), get awful prickly heat etc. But the cost of gas and a dodgy boiler mean I don't want it that cold. A perpetual early Autumn would suit me fine.

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 15:41:54

It's,so bloody dark in the winter though.

Dark on the way to work,dark on the way home.

Bubbles1066 Tue 03-Sep-13 15:44:45

And my Mum nearly ended up in hospital with severe dehydration due to her health issues and the ridiculous heat so the cold is definitely better for her. I wonder what's worse for health, extreme heat or cold?

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 15:45:44

My mum won't leave her house in snowy weather for fear of falling on ice.

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit Tue 03-Sep-13 15:46:13

I love the darkness of it. Not being woken at the arsecrack of dawn by the sun, and it feels all lovely and snuggly and you don't even feel guilty going to bed at 8.45 with a hot water bottle and book, because it's already dark!

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 15:47:18

I would think more elderly people suffer more in winter than summer.

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 15:48:24

Not so nice getting up and shivering at the bus stop in the dark though grin

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit Tue 03-Sep-13 15:49:48

True. Trudging through the snow to the tram isn't the most fun, but it's better than being on the tram with 800 other very sweaty people and no air circulation!

Bubbles1066 Tue 03-Sep-13 15:57:13

Yes the fear of slipping is a big one in winter. My DH broke his wrist in a fall last winter. I suppose you can warm up though with lots and lots of clothes and go and sit in the library if all else fails (my local library is hotter than the sun all year around) but it's really hard to cool down if you don't have air con in a heat wave. When I lived in Florida I barely noticed the heat thanks to air con. It makes such a difference. Permanent spring or Autumn is the only answer I think!

Yes, lovely long cold winter here too please. I've spent the whole summer being told I can't complain about the hot weather because "everyone loves it". Well we bloody well don't all love it. So everyone who hates winter can shut up moaning about it. They'll get the same sympathy from me that I get from them. Bugger all.

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 16:01:12

Ok then, I will send you my gas bill grin

wanderings Tue 03-Sep-13 16:01:26

Shareholder in energy company, perhaps? wink

YABU. The last loooooooooooooooooong winter was quite enough, thank you, with its very high heating bills.

Only if you have my ice cream bill grin These kids have bankrupted me this summer!

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Tue 03-Sep-13 16:04:37

YANBU. As long as it is a proper winter. I want to see ice skating across the Thames. Temperature never above zero. Proper cold and dry so no ice, no slush, no frozen slush, just beautiful powder snow like you get in the Alps.

Although that would be crap for making snowmen.

reelingintheyears Tue 03-Sep-13 16:08:38

We rarely get decent snow here the Saaarf coast but I was oop North in March and the snow was fabulous, loved it.
Crisp and cold is ok too as long as you can afford the heating on.

Those pesky kids eh GwedolineMary grin

RussiansOnTheSpree Tue 03-Sep-13 16:09:18

usual The hot summer apparently killed hundreds of elderly people. Although I do have my suspicions that just as when an old person dies, and it's cold, they put it down to the cold rather than being old, the same thing happens with the heat. But, see here for example www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/18/heatwave-claims-hundreds-lives_n_3615883.html

The very hot summer of 2003 (I nearly died. I was 9 months pregnant - both I and DD2 were very lucky) saw people dropping like flies all over Europe. sad

Loads of old people die in cold weather too. In fact, they die in indifferent neutral weather as well. As do vulnerable young people. Using 'concern' for the elderly as an excuse for having a preference is a bit disingenuous. I do not dislike heat because elderly people I do not know might die as a result of it. I dislike it because it makes me and my children seriously ill. I like cold winters because they suit my constitution better (even though I am probably the neshest person you will ever meet - one of the reasons why I am susceptible to heatstroke, I don't feel hot even when it is way too hot for me).

I really haven't got a problem with people saying 'yuck I hate the winter'. I have a huge problem with people saying 'but what about the elderly' when what they really MEAN is 'I hate the winter'.

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 16:13:37

Fuel poverty is a very real problem. if you choose to ignore it ,that's up to you.

ChubbyKitty Tue 03-Sep-13 16:16:38

Yabu unless you're going to pick me up when I fall on my bum.

No one else in the street gives a crap, it's v embarrassing.

orangeandemons Tue 03-Sep-13 16:21:16

I read somewhere that this winter is going to be very badsad.

I hate it, it makes dds eczema much worse, and I'm always freezing. I'd like a nice mild winter, this year and every year.

IsaacCox Tue 03-Sep-13 16:28:16

YANBU. I've hated this summer. It was -18 on my wedding day in 2010, I loved it! I think I was born in the wrong country, I'd live somewhere where it's snowy 365 days a year. I long for the winter.

It's hard to get real statistics on it and obviously they are subject to interpretation and determining the actual cause is tricky but the
NHS reckon there are 25000-30000 excess deaths due to cold weather each year and 2000-3000 excess deaths in 2003.

Considering as one set of figures is every year and one is during our most extreme heat spell recorded, I think even with fudging figures massively there will be a clear difference.

Have to say, that really surprised me, i wasnt sure what I'd find hunting around.

Cold makes me feel poorly, I always get a severe inflammatory arthritis flare and my circulation is very poor. Not life threatening, but life affecting.

DaleyBump Tue 03-Sep-13 16:41:58

I'm really worrying about getting another cold winter. I'm expecting a son in November/December and it was so cold in our flat last year that we could see our breath and I was sleeping with two tops, leggings, trousers, two pairs of socks and a hoodie on. If it's as cold as last year, we'll have to stay with my mum until the worst passes for the sake of the wee one.

RussiansOnTheSpree Tue 03-Sep-13 16:47:01

kitten My circulation is appalling (I have a hereditary condition). It's one of the reasons why heat affects me so badly.

You can mitigate the cold (although, yes, you have to buy extra clothing, gloves, socks, blankets etc. It certainly doesn't require central heating though). You can't mitigate the heat. That's the bottom line, really.

Squitten Tue 03-Sep-13 16:48:56

I hate the heat so I'm definitely an autumn/winter person but we live in a very hilly suburb so when everthing is covered in ice it's absolutely lethal! DC3 is due end of Oct so I'll be carrying a newborn around in it too.

So yes to winter, no to snow and ice!

Too hot makes me faint smile but its better now its controlled with medication.

Problem is I can put on as many layers as I like, but my hands and feet stay cold, I need active heat to warm them up.

You need to move to the States where you can glide from airconditioning to airconditioning!

valiumredhead Tue 03-Sep-13 16:54:55

Liking the winter weather doesn't mean people are ignoring fuel poverty.

OrmirianResurgam Tue 03-Sep-13 16:57:16

Don't care as long as we get some sunshine. Winter makes me miserably depressed these days.

JerseySpud Tue 03-Sep-13 17:02:35

YANBU i am so with you there :D

JerseySpud Tue 03-Sep-13 17:10:05

I hate summer. I hate the heat, the humidty and i'm aware i live in totally the wrong place.

I hate the light nights and light mornings, i hate the fact that no matter how i dress i'm too hot. I hate how its too hot to share a bedroom with my husband.

I love winter. I love being able to wrap up warm. To get the kids to sleep before 10pm at night.

Its an each to their own i think, there are problems with both major seasons for elderly and young alike.

And yes, i've also heard this winter is going to be a hard one.

Sparklymommy Tue 03-Sep-13 17:13:49

Lots of interesting arguments for and against a cold winter then!

RussiansOnTheSpree Tue 03-Sep-13 17:49:26

Exactly, valium. It's a ridiculous thing to suggest.

SirChenjin Tue 03-Sep-13 18:06:45

I disagree. I think liking the winter weather means that you haven't fully grasped the misery that months of cold brings to thousands in the UK.

(Oh, and I'm from SE England - I would give anything to move back to a warmer climate, but sadly jobs and family keep us up here)

Catinthebed Tue 03-Sep-13 18:10:11

YABVU the last very cold winter we had to keep our dog and cats in as it was -24C some of the coldest days. To get our Dd (11) to school (and for us to get to work) we had to leave her at bus stop in -24C. Her school has no lockers so she has to either not bring a coat or carry it all day.

In addition many animals died in last years severe winter in NI. Many farmers went bankrupt.

sonlypuppyfat Tue 03-Sep-13 18:10:19

I'm with you jerseyspud I've never felt so ill as I have this summer

LadyClariceCannockMonty Tue 03-Sep-13 18:10:53

'I disagree. I think liking the winter weather means that you haven't fully grasped the misery that months of cold brings to thousands in the UK.'

Utter bobbins. I do grasp that, thanks very much, because I'm not an imbecile. I can also grasp – yes I can! – that if winter brought me misery because of poverty/illness/etc, I probably wouldn't like or look forward to it. However, it doesn't and therefore I do.

Catinthebed Tue 03-Sep-13 18:14:54

Oops Dh says it was actually -18 C

RussiansOnTheSpree Tue 03-Sep-13 18:16:01

SirChenjin Pants. I might just as easily say that liking warmer weather means you haven't fully grasped the misery that months of heat brings to thousands in the UK. But neither statement is true. You are trying to dress up your preference with some kind of moral superiority it just doesn't have.

RussiansOnTheSpree Tue 03-Sep-13 18:17:24

cat I'm not shedding any tears for farmers.

JerseySpud Tue 03-Sep-13 18:24:50

sonlypuppyfat Summer is evil

Betrayedbutsurvived Tue 03-Sep-13 18:25:04

Why the assumption if you don't want a cold winter, you must want a hot summer? I'd like pleasantly warm but not too hot summers and mild winters please.

Backinthebox Tue 03-Sep-13 18:25:57

Catinthebed It didn't reach -24C at any point last year, even if it might have felt like it occasionally. Record lows

As I said, other places are colder for longer, but cope much better. The UK is terrible at dealing with extreme weather, and I would say we need to start getting better at it, as we are getting more of it. I'd rather take the cold than the wet and flooding we had when it wasn't snowing last winter.

RussiansOnTheSpree Tue 03-Sep-13 18:30:30

Betrayed I don't think it's an assumption, I know many people like mild climates all the year long. It was just the way certain posters jumped on those of us who want a cold winter trying to use a spurious moral argument, which one never sees used against those who want hot summers - because it would be ridiculous so to do, just as ridiculous as it is to try and use it against those who want cold winters. It seemed so nutty using a spurious moral argument to push a preference that the only response was to demonstrate this by using the same technique on something which is often perceived as something 'everyone loves' - the fabled and rarely seen 'hot summer'.

I expect there are some people with medical issues which are exacerbated by mild climates too, come to think of it.......

'I didn't notice anybody caring much about the people for whom this horrendously hot summer has been torture.'

LOL. I didn't think it was especially warm. It was okay. I got a few odd unpredictable evenings without having to lug my coat about but really, it wasn't exactly abroad weather.

valiumredhead Tue 03-Sep-13 18:33:00

Starlight-and I copied just fine in the winter, it would need to be much colder for me to complain.

valiumredhead Tue 03-Sep-13 18:33:15

Coped

RussiansOnTheSpree Tue 03-Sep-13 18:33:55

See? StarlightMcKenzie thinks those of us who ended up hospitalised because of the heat this summer, and the hundreds of people who died as a direct result of it, are worth a LOL.

It;s about what I'd expect from someone who uses that acronym though, so, whatever.

Hospitalised? What on earth for? Did a bush fire pass through your viallage?

It WASN'T hot. In fact most of it was wet. Humidity is a pita I suppose and can cause issues, but an average of 21 heat degrees really does not.

2468Motorway Tue 03-Sep-13 18:37:32

Agh commuting in winter is utterly grim and dangerous. I hate it and always need to keep leave spare, for just in case I can't make it (don't even live very rurally). YABU

RussiansOnTheSpree Tue 03-Sep-13 18:41:00

It was hot. Shouting at people won't change that. It was the hottest summer since 2003. The government issued warnings, it was so hot. The air quality was terrible. I and my DD2 were both in hospital for heatstroke, different days. She was properly frightening ill, I was forced to go to A&E by my office. I also know kids with CF who had to go into hospital because of the effects of the appalling air quality.

You are extremely rude and also clearly somewhat ignorant.

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 18:42:12

So it's ok to win the argument by saying hundreds die in hot weather,but not ok to mention how hard winter is for a lot of people.

Have I got that right?

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 18:43:39

Lol

TeamSouthfields Tue 03-Sep-13 18:45:10

Ooooooooooh me too !

air quality is not heat.

Heatstroke is but this country has plenty of shade. It's free, unlike heating. It's really about the decisions you made rather than the actual heat itself.

Hotest summer since 2003 really doesn't mean very much at all. Why is it more significant than, say, the hottest summer since 1974, or the hottest summer since 20012. I suspect next year will be the hottest summer since some other arbitrary date.

You just need to acclimatise, which admittedly is difficult since our summer wasn't very long (it rained throughout half of it), but it's just about being sensible right?

valiumredhead Tue 03-Sep-13 18:46:45

Yeah I don't know what all this 'it wasn't exactly abroad temperatures' is all about. It was, most definitely.

Sparklymommy Tue 03-Sep-13 18:47:45

Calm down ladies! All have a biscuit

It was hot here. For about three weeks we were hitting 30*.

People suffer in all extreme weather. Hot and cold.

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 18:47:49

Some of it was hot, most of it was pleasantly warm though.

JerseySpud Tue 03-Sep-13 18:48:10

Well here it was hot. It was our hottest, driest summer.

http://www.thisisjersey.com/news/2013/09/03/warmest-sunniest-and-driest-summer-for-years/

So yes.

Basically people die in winter. People die in summer. People also die in spring and autumn (who would have thought it?) Summer is hard for some because of the summer holidays, winter is hard for others because of the cost of heating.

So therefore no matter what, if you want it to. Life sucks.

JerseySpud Tue 03-Sep-13 18:48:35

to me anything over 20oC is too hot.

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 18:48:41

Don't worry ,Sparking.

Mnetters will argue about anything grin

valiumredhead Tue 03-Sep-13 18:49:41

How patronisinghmm I lived abroad for years,I was born outside the UK,I can cope just fine. It's not just a case of acclimatising at all. It's horribly muggy here and out houses aren't set up for the heat.

I agree OP I like my winters cold and my summers mild. I want a proper autumn, dry with nice red and golden leaves and cooler weather.

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 18:49:59

Sparkly*

valiumredhead Tue 03-Sep-13 18:51:07

Anyway,I can't wait to buy my new autumn scarves and gloves, high light of my yeargrin

valiumredhead Tue 03-Sep-13 18:52:02

Tits-oh yes, long walks kicking dry leaves, lovely!smile

RussiansOnTheSpree Tue 03-Sep-13 18:53:22

usual Nobody is trying to win an argument. Some people are saying they like cold winters, some people are saying that it's rank lunacy to like the cold, both viewpoints are fair enough, everyone is happy, then someone comes along and starts trying to use the 'will nobody think of the OLD PEOPLE' card to try and get some moral backing for their preference. Which is ridiculous especially since, as I pointed out, plenty of people suffer in the hot weather too.

Their can be NO moral argument either for or against a hot summer, or a cold winter. But the people who are desperate to pretend their preference is something more noble than just what they like won't have it.

Doesn't stop them being ridiculous though.

And I'm not even slightly surprised you used that acronym. It;s exactly what I'd expect.

You can't see the dog poo you're also kicking up though

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 18:55:31

Another acronym for you ,DILLIGAF.

valiumredhead Tue 03-Sep-13 18:56:00

At least it's solid from the frost.

SirChenjin Tue 03-Sep-13 18:57:55

<DM alert> (but it's from the Office for National Statistics, so it's OK) shows 24,000 people died from excess winter deaths in 2011.

How many do you reckon for deaths related to the summer? 1000 at most maybe?

That is why I hate winter and I hate what it does to people. Anyone who wants a really cold winter obviously doesn't experience them often enough in the UK.

Sparklymommy Tue 03-Sep-13 18:58:20

A fan of bill bailey usual? grin

RussiansOnTheSpree Tue 03-Sep-13 18:58:44

Well, love, you used it to get a reaction, so I'd say most definitely yes, you do. To a positively infantile extent, in fact. grin

SirChenjin Tue 03-Sep-13 18:59:31

Oh, and I'm not being 'noble' there, before anyone jumps up and down. LOL.

susiedaisy Tue 03-Sep-13 19:00:22

I say yanbu
My bank account begs to differ!

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 19:01:37

I think you need to chill, see what I did there.

PA won't win your argument either.

valiumredhead Tue 03-Sep-13 19:05:42

How many people for from the heat in UK

cantspel Tue 03-Sep-13 19:10:03

We had one or 2 hot days this year not exactly desert conditions and then just periods of nice warm weather.

In winter you get months of endless cold, wet days.

Piles of wet washing to get dry. massive heating bills, defrosting the car for 15 minutes every morning before you can start the day. Cracked pipes, snow days, short dark days, having to cook something hot and filing everynight because a salad a cold meat just wont do and cold feet every night in bed.

No i dont want a cold, cold winter.

valiumredhead Tue 03-Sep-13 19:10:26

Ha ha I posted what I meant to googlegrin was trying to find out heat related deaths

CruCru Tue 03-Sep-13 19:12:36

This is a funny sort of thread. It's all pie in the sky - we don't get a particular sort of winter or summer by wishing for it.

I would prefer not to have snow at Christmas because I've always got to travel to some random bloody places to see people during the 12 days - or we have people coming to us.

Reminds me though - I must get DS some new thermal long johns - he's outgrown his old ones.

usualsuspect Tue 03-Sep-13 19:17:48

Good job that's all you were googling,Valium

Bowlersarm Tue 03-Sep-13 19:55:15

Haha valium your googling is like mine-very waffly

MamaBear17 Tue 03-Sep-13 19:59:27

It seems you are U! I must be too though, because I want a cold, snowy winter too!

iklboo Tue 03-Sep-13 19:59:39

No snow or loads of ice thanks. DH is self employed. If he can't drive, he doesn't earn and we lose money from the household.

LiegeAndLief Tue 03-Sep-13 21:56:55

I think there's people living at opposite ends of the country here talking at cross purposes (although admittedly some of them seem to living in a weird micro climate). I am genuinely curious about where you live if last winter was quite mild and you have just had a couple of hot days this summer and it has been mostly wet.

FWIW, I live in the SE. Here the weather has been glorious all summer, bar a little bit of rain. At the beginning of the summer it was getting on for 30 degrees for weeks. The winter was shit, it rained for about 6 months and then there was snow on the ground for weeks.

I was brought up overseas and have no problem with hot weather - I think the problem here is we are not very well set up for it (likewise snow!). The houses generally get very hot, our bedrooms were over 30 degrees at one stage, and ds's school in low ceilinged portacabin type buiding was pretty miserable too.

Snatchoo Tue 03-Sep-13 21:59:35

YANBU! I hate summer. I love winter - especially snow.

I am aware this makes me unpopular grin

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