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It is bloody stupid of Aldi to have kitchen knives on display out of their box at child height?

(38 Posts)

Well?

SilverApples Mon 02-Sep-13 17:15:15

Agreed, it does sound like an accident waiting to happen.
My local Sainsbury's don't, they are all displayed over a metre up.
Have you emailed customer services?

RainbowCake Mon 02-Sep-13 17:16:05

Well my DC would be with me and know better than to touch knives.
But can't see why they wouldn't display them higher.

I said to a member of staff that it seemed dangerous (yes, I'm a busybody, but a toddler sitting in a trolley could easily have grabbed them if the parent looke away for a second) and she said 'we're not told we can't do it, so...'

They're not loose pointy knives out though are they, they're packaged up in a box/pack. If my DS got into a packet of knives and hurt himself I'd be cross with myself not the shop.

spongebob13 Mon 02-Sep-13 17:21:11

so did you just put them back in the box and shove them in?

SilverApples Mon 02-Sep-13 17:22:28

On display out of their box Yourhand.
That's what the title says.

No, they were out of their box. You could just pick up an individual carving knife.

There was no empty box to put them into but I did move them to the back of the display so they were harder to reach.

HeySoulSister Mon 02-Sep-13 17:24:16

Also don't have high shelves do they?

And people should take more responsibility for supervising their kids.....

CocacolaMum Mon 02-Sep-13 17:24:34

if they are out of their box its because someone else left them that way - they should be boxed and tbh some responsibility has to be taken by the person taking the toddler into the supermarket?

spongebob13 Mon 02-Sep-13 17:25:18

but that's how aldi and lidl are ... they are notorious for tools as well all close to hand. I see your point but if that's the shop layout then its up to the parents to be vigilant. but I wonder how things would fare out if god forbid there was an accident?

The staff member made it clear they were as they were on purpose. And yes of course parents need to take responsibility for their children but does that mean the supermarket don't have any responsibility?

I would have thought it was illegal to display them like that (it sort of like having a loaded gun just lying around isn't it?) but the staff member said it wasn't. Quite defensively, because I imagine I looked pretty horrified.

Exactly-the potential for an accident is always there but this just seemed to be really inviting it.

HeySoulSister Mon 02-Sep-13 17:30:27

Guns are illegal, buying knives aren't!

You sound a bit ott op.... I mean, for a start, define 'child height'

Oops sorry I apologise. blush

Out of their boxes I reckon they are a magnet to toddlers and nutters!

I didn't think sharp knives could be sold without packaging, never mind displayed at child height.

Tee2072 Mon 02-Sep-13 17:31:41

I can't believe it's legal since you have to be, what? 18? To buy a knife?

I do think parents bear some responsibility but perhaps an email to corporate?

buss Mon 02-Sep-13 17:33:49

how high up were they?
Our aldi had knives recently but the container that held them was fairly tall - about waist height on an adult.
It's still the parent's responsibility though.
An unsupervised child is more likely to be hurt by a shopping trolley.

spongebob13 Mon 02-Sep-13 17:34:25

define child height? wtf?

spongebob13 Mon 02-Sep-13 17:36:39

buss aldi/lidl don't have shelves for that kinda stuff they are just in cage like massive floor ones. my 4 year old can easily reach in over them. but that's where I think its on me and to make sure he is by my side.

SilverApples Mon 02-Sep-13 17:38:16

Ahhh, the range of parenting approaches on MN is always invigorating!
I love the idea of a supermarket where all children are under the watchful control of their parents rather than building castles with the sliced loaves and duelling with random knives.

Oh of course that's true about guns being illegal. I think I assumed it was illegal to display them loose because in every shop I can think of they're displayed behind glass doors and if you want to look at them you have to get a member of staff.

As for child height...well, just above waist height on me, so if say your average 7 year old could reach for them, and perfect height for a child in the trolley seat.

Tee yes you do have to be 18.

SilverApples Mon 02-Sep-13 17:39:24

Give customer services an email.

fluffyraggies England Mon 02-Sep-13 17:40:16

Found this on the site governing trading standards re: selling knives:

To avoid committing these offences, it is advised that the legislation is brought to the attention of all staff via regular training. It is important that you can prove that your staff have understood what is required of them under the legislation. This can be done by keeping a record of the training and asking the member of staff to sign to say that they have understood it. These records should then be checked and signed on a regular basis by management or the owner.

Knives should be displayed where staff can see them.

Last sentence is interesting.

Yes spongebob, I was a bit confused about that too.

Yes it is fluffy. They were in the middle aisles surrounded by the usual array of stuff and there were only a couple of members of staff around. I highly doubt they were always in somebody's view.

Have tweeted them. Will find their email address if I don't hear back. It may well be perfectly legal but I still do think it's stupid!

LayMizzRarb Mon 02-Sep-13 17:48:31

What about bleach, toilet cleaner, alcohol, aerosols? Should they all be on the top shelf too?
Sorry, but parents need to be in control of what kids are doing. It amazes me every time I go to Homebase or B&Q the number of pre school kids running up and down the aisles. I once saw a toddler escape by an inch after trying to climb on a display of paint tins, and bringing the whole lot down. I ran to see if the little boy was alright, and it took a good minute or two for the parents to turn up.
The mother walked off muttering about how they could make the display safer.

AnnaBegins Mon 02-Sep-13 17:48:37

So these ones then, the ones sold with protective covers on? Agree they should be where staff can see them, but given there are staff everywhere restocking shelves every time I go into Aldi they probably are!

No, not those ones. No protective covers. They're in a knife block so you pull them out by the handle.

LayMizz I think with household chemicals it depends on their lids. If they have child safe 'press down then turn' type lids then I don't think they'd need to be on a high shelf. If a toddler could just open them and drink bleach then I do. But I think they all have child safe lids nowadays!

I get the feeling some people think I'm over egging this. I'm not exaggerating the situation or the ease with which anyone could pick them up. I'm saying it as it is confused

I am quite prepared to be told I'm being unreasonable-I'm shocked if that's the case though.

SilverApples Mon 02-Sep-13 17:55:20

I was always careful with DD who had jaws like a hyena. She'd pick up a plastic bottle and bite through the side. grin
Child-proof tops? Ha!

firawla Mon 02-Sep-13 17:55:39

sounds dangerous, not even just children but any member of public could grab the knife and threaten someone?!? seems a bit off just to leave them in grabbing distance

spongebob13 Mon 02-Sep-13 17:56:18

I don't think yabu tbh. i'd be interested in their reply if you happen to email them and get one. its made me think what happens if.

SilverApples I know it's not funny but that is a great image!

Thanks spongebob. Was beginning to doubt myself!

fluffyraggies England Mon 02-Sep-13 18:32:13

Oh i don't think you are BU OP.

Lots of things on sale around a supermarket could be potentially dangerous. A child would have to be unsupervised for a few moments for it to open and drink a harmful substance for eg. though.

But a big sharp knife has the capacity to be very dangerous the moment a child closes their fingers over it. Or, as you say, OP, to be used or stolen as an instant weapon in the heat of the moment.

I'm surprised so many posters are prepared to say that the principal of 'parent should be watching' trumps the risk to a small child from sharp knives within their reach. The child, after all, is not at fault if they have a parent who's not paying attention.

HeySoulSister Mon 02-Sep-13 18:34:50

if someone wanted to use it as a weapon then it being 'child height' would make absolutely no difference

They're separate issues aren't they soulsister? I don't think anyone's suggested they're related.

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