To think this is not an appropriate film for baby club?

(85 Posts)
DfanjoUnchained Tue 27-Aug-13 08:07:51

I was looking forward to going to baby club and checked what they were showing and was quite taken aback to see it was the movie about a porn star.
The story of Lovelace the star of 'Deep Throat' confused

Aib a bit precious, or is this inappropriate? What parent would want to watch that with their small baby?

Tiredemma Tue 27-Aug-13 08:08:28

It must be a mistake surely? Its an 18???

pinkdelight Tue 27-Aug-13 08:11:04

They're not for the babies. Those screenings for under-12 months are films for grown-ups who can't get out to the cinema without the sprog. I'm no fan of Lovelace but I don't see the problem really. Kids Club is where you go for U rated films.

redexpat Tue 27-Aug-13 08:12:44

What pink said. I saw American Pie the reunion and The Inbetweeners at baby cinema. Definitely not for the babies!

DfanjoUnchained Tue 27-Aug-13 08:12:56

It's not really the rating, it's more that its basically a film about a porn star and will show lots of pornographic scenes. I just don't understand what mothers would want to watch this with their babies. Seems a bit yuck to me.

Tiredemma Tue 27-Aug-13 08:17:27

I really didn't know that cinemas did this! I'm intrigued. Currently 37 weeks pregnant so will be looking out for this in future!

BeauNatt Tue 27-Aug-13 08:18:22

If all the babies are under 1 (which is normal for parent and baby screenings ime) they usually show something for the parents. You're entitled to dislike that particular film but there's nothing inappropriate about the setting, the babies won't know what's going on.

ThedementedPenguin Tue 27-Aug-13 08:19:18

I think YABU. If it was toddlers and up yes I'd agree but babies aren't going to have a clue.

whois Tue 27-Aug-13 08:21:38

* I just don't understand what mothers would want to watch this with their babies. Seems a bit yuck to me.*

Well the film isn't for the baby. It's not meant to be some interactive kids club where you loud parent "look mummy's munchkins, that's a PENIS, that's right a PENSIS."

That is a film that some adults will find interesting, it's not actually a porno but a film about a porn star. Big difference. If you find it 'yuck' then just don't go.

DfanjoUnchained Tue 27-Aug-13 08:26:28

It's not meant to be some interactive kids club where you loud parent "look mummy's munchkins, that's a PENIS, that's right a PENSIS

Haha.

Isn't the plural penii? grin

I guess our children see so much sexual content from so young that we need to get them started early. But I understand they don't get what's going on.

AngryGnome Tue 27-Aug-13 08:26:39

Same as everyone else has said - the film is for adults not the babies. They won't know what they're watching. I you don't like the film that's fair enough , just don't go. I watche sopranos box sets whilst I was bf for hours on the sofa at home - hardly kid friendly tv, but as ds was a baby it didn't matter. I didn't fancy spending hours on end watching Disney classics!

AngryGnome Tue 27-Aug-13 08:28:08

What do you mean you 'need to get them started early'? confused

DfanjoUnchained Tue 27-Aug-13 08:28:11

I think it'll be full of dads and babies as I can't see what mums would want to watch that for a treat to the cinema

Hassled Tue 27-Aug-13 08:28:27

God I wish they'd had these when mine were little - it sounds like such a good idea.

DfanjoUnchained Tue 27-Aug-13 08:28:41

I was being sarcastic, obv Angry

Hassled Tue 27-Aug-13 08:29:38

You realise the Lovelace film is about a porn star, but it's not actually porn? I saw a review thing - looked quite interesting.

DfanjoUnchained Tue 27-Aug-13 08:31:35

Funny, because everyone on their FB and twitter are all saying what I'm saying, i.e 'what a strange choice for a lunch time mother and baby club', and 'is that even legal?'and just find it a bit distasteful.

But mnetters think its fine.

[Shrug]

LaVitaBellissima Tue 27-Aug-13 08:34:18

I watched Black Swan, I thought the same really, not entirely appropriate but better than watching the endless Disney films that I have to now!

meditrina Tue 27-Aug-13 08:35:06

I can remember watching 18 cert films at a 'baby' screening.

It's not a kids club (U and the occasional PG); it's a club restricted to adults and under-1s specifically so that any cert film can be shown.

Ours always showed something fom the main listing. Presumably, that's what has happened here?

wigglesrock Tue 27-Aug-13 08:41:20

Then don't go. Again with the infantalising of women who've had children? You know what my taste in films didn't change just because I've had children. It's a biopic about a woman who made porn films. Shall we all watch Bambi? Oh God no, the mother dies - someone might find that unsuitable.

DfanjoUnchained Tue 27-Aug-13 08:48:12

Women can enjoy whatever films they like, this just seems a bad choice for a lunch time showing with baby's.

TinyTear Tue 27-Aug-13 08:50:59

My first Baby Club film was The Woman in Black, an horror film about a child killing ghost... nothing wrong with that...
She slept all of the film anyway

HandMini Tue 27-Aug-13 08:52:17

this just seems like a bad choice for a lunch time showing with baby's - disagree strongly. I really enjoyed the fact that our baby cinema screening showed 15 / 18 films - I couldn't get out in the evening to see the films I would have chosen and really enjoyed having some adult entertainment no porn connotations please! in an otherwise baby filled day. The idea that there are certain "suitable" films for mothers or for lunch time viewing is ridiculous.

WaitingForMe Tue 27-Aug-13 08:52:56

I think it's great that they're showing all the things they'd usually show and have no idea why being a mother would change my taste in films - I think it sounds interesting.

BeauNatt Tue 27-Aug-13 08:55:27

The point of the film screenings is that new parents can't get out to an evening screening. So it's a great choice for a lunchtime baby screening. Get a grip OP.

RabbitFromAHat Tue 27-Aug-13 08:55:51

Disagree very strongly. It's a good film which is mostly about domestic abuse. As a serious film fan, are you really saying that I should be expected to give up my cultural interests because I have a baby (that will pretty much not even be able to see the images on screen, let alone make sense of them)? Really?

If it makes you uncomfortable it's possibly because there's so much emphasis on the representation of motherhood as a kind of 'sanctified' state, which is of course bollocks.

DfanjoUnchained Tue 27-Aug-13 08:57:28

Ok so you all would enjoy watching a film about a woman forced into gang-rape and porn while cuddling and bf your little ones. I must be the odd one then! grin

BeauNatt Tue 27-Aug-13 09:08:24

You are missing the point on purpose. Some people might want to see that film. The only chance they will get to see it in the cinema is with a baby in tow (a baby who will not notice the contents of the film).

Don't go. Problem solved.

TheBleedinObvious Tue 27-Aug-13 09:16:52

Yabu

It is baby cinema, most of the babies are pre crawling and sleep through most of the film anyway.

Once your baby is crawling and sleeping less it becomes impossible to enjoy the movie so mums stop going.

Pobblewhohasnotoes Tue 27-Aug-13 09:19:59

I saw American pie reunion and hunger games at baby cinema. It's not for the babies, it's to get out and see a film.

meganorks Tue 27-Aug-13 09:22:19

Surely any baby would only be thinking 'mmm milk' to any nude females.

By your reasoning no 18 would be suitable - they all have some form of sexual content or violence.

AFishWithoutABicycle Tue 27-Aug-13 09:26:37

I wouldn't watch it.i don't agree that a baby wouldn't know whats going on and I would feel uncomfortable. A baby wouldn't understand whats going on but images of sex or violence can still effect them IMO.

ThedementedPenguin Tue 27-Aug-13 09:31:27

Clearly it depends on the age of the baby.

Going by my ds I wouldn't of been able to go past 6-7 months as he would of been wrecking the place and not sleeping.

However up to that point babies eye sights are developing so probably wouldn't have a clue, plus would likely be asleep. I know this doesn't apply to all babies.

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 09:35:55

it is the pron aspect you find repulsive which is fair enough but you cant say oh it is ok for one film and not the other I am not sure thee will be any deepthroating <eww> in the film it is a story of her very sad life, it is just a film that you find bad taste (excuse the pun) but it means that parents who want to go and see it can, it isn't a porn film

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 09:36:12

there*

neolara Tue 27-Aug-13 09:37:21

When I was at the going to baby cinema stage, one of the films being shown was Vera Drake. Now that really was inappropriate, I thought.

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Tue 27-Aug-13 09:38:00

If the film's not to your taste, then don't go, but I'm glad that the cinema here has recognised that women don't need their viewing censored for them just because they are new mothers, and are offering them the choice to still go and see films for grown-ups if they want to.

EmpireBiscuit Tue 27-Aug-13 09:38:52

OP: AIBU
others: YABU
OP: no I'm not

wink

waltzingmathilda Tue 27-Aug-13 09:39:07

I think it'll be full of dads and babies as I can't see what mums would want to watch that for a treat to the cinema

I thought I could be deliberately provocative, but at least I'm not thick.

Do enighten us further as to that comment? Do you think all the daddies will be beating their meat whilst watching this film? Mummies could go bean flicking to you know.

Have you retained the information it is a biographical story of a person NOT a porn movie yet?

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 09:39:12

there was no baby cinema when mine were babies I think it is a great idea and means new parents can go out see a film and have sort of normality to their life .

WilsonFrickett Tue 27-Aug-13 09:46:10

You know OP, it's not compulsory to go?

Personally I think it's a great idea. Adult women want to go and see adult films. Other adults not so keen on potentially crying infants. So adult women get to go and see adult films in the morning, with their babies who won't know anything about it. Perfect.

And as many, many others have said, it's not a porn film.

ShipwreckedAndComatose Tue 27-Aug-13 09:47:42

If you don't like the film then don't go. Clearly the cinema believe that enough people will want to see this film to make it financially viable. Their film choices are decided by market forces.

Films should not be censored just because women have become mums.

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 09:54:22

tbh the other films mums have mentioned they saw at the baby cinema are not that appropriate for babies either american pie swearing sex boobs randomly flying about, OP If you feel so strongly about the lovelace film then why not others ,

meditrina Tue 27-Aug-13 09:58:18

I took one DC with me when I saw Fahrenheit 911 at a baby screening.

It was for the parents, not the babies (it just mean 'moderate screaming, pacing, jiggling OK).

Anyone actually seen Pornland? I thought it was a biography of a woman being groomed/coerced into pornographic/abusive acting. As it shows how even the apparently 'successful' porn actresses are treated, and shows the vileness of the industry, perhaps there wil, be voices calling for the film to be censored. Bit like there were with Fahrenheit 911.

thegoldenfool Tue 27-Aug-13 09:59:47

it is totally what baby cinema is for - the mummies who can choose or not choose based on their tastes

YABU

i had to learn not to go to scary movies though, jumping 5 foot in the air whilst cuddling DD not a good idea grin

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 10:01:18

just wondering do they turn the sound down as the surround sound sometimes makes me jump so id imagine a little baby would be sensitive to noise

LovesBeingOnHoliday Tue 27-Aug-13 10:03:42

Most of these babies will be asleep or being fed Tgey will not even know where Tgey are

MrsOakenshield Tue 27-Aug-13 10:04:05

my one and only trip to the parent and baby screening was to see Eclipse. As DD was sitting up and watching (she was about 7 months, whereas most of the other babies were much younger) I did leave as I thought it was a bit much (also she chocked on some cucumber grin). However, I did spend many a night bfing her whilst watching Being Human and True Blood - should I not have?? Cuddling my baby whilst watching sexy vampires rip the shit out of each other or shag each other senseless? Hey ho.

GreatSoprendo Tue 27-Aug-13 10:06:19

Im surprised they are allowed to show it. We regularly go to baby cinema, but at our cinema they say they are only allowed to show films rated 12a or below. I'm assuming Lovelace is more than a 12?

That said I would be fine with my DS seeing it at baby cinema - he's 5 months old and loves the noise and lights and colours at cinema but is obviously oblivious to the content!

GreatSoprendo Tue 27-Aug-13 10:08:20

Yes mrsjay - at ours they have the lights on a little and the sound turned down just a little. Although when Gatsby got shot at the end of The Great Gatsby it was very loud and resulted in c.75 screaming babies!!!

meditrina Tue 27-Aug-13 10:10:49

It is legal, depending of the terms of the cinema's licence. Ours has a specific variation which permits under 1s at designated screenings to be admitted to any certificate film. And I think this is the commonest arrangement.

If your local cinema has a more restrictive licence for the showings it might be because that's all they requested, or because they permit children older than 1.

TheBuskersDog Tue 27-Aug-13 10:15:19

To those who wouldn't go and watch an 18 film with their baby, do you apply the same rules at home, have you stopped watching adult themed films and tv?

CMOTDibbler Tue 27-Aug-13 10:15:36

I went to see the remake of Wickerman at baby screening. Ds's only interest was in my boobs anyway.

TravailsInHyperreality Tue 27-Aug-13 10:19:28

I do think they turn the sound down mrsjay - we had to ask for the operator to turn it up twice the last time we went to Big Scream.

OP, you are being unreasonable. Don't go to the film which is not a porno. End of.

forevergreek Tue 27-Aug-13 10:25:50

Yes they usually turn the volume down and the lights up a bit ( so you can actually see to walk around/ leave if you need to)
I went every week virtually with ds1. Dh tool long lunch breaks sometimes to join us

gordyslovesheep Tue 27-Aug-13 10:27:27

everyone on facebook??? what even me?? don't remember that

OP you have completely misunderstood what the baby cinema is - it's not cinema FOR babies - it's a special slot for ADULTS to see films whilst accompanied by their small babies - who wont be actually watching the film - hth smile

LadyClariceCannockMonty Tue 27-Aug-13 10:33:35

'Funny, because everyone on their FB and twitter are all saying what I'm saying, i.e 'what a strange choice for a lunch time mother and baby club', and 'is that even legal?'and just find it a bit distasteful.
But mnetters think its fine.'

Maybe 'everyone' on FB and twitter, like you, haven't seen the film, or read/heard much about it, but the people commenting on here have and therefore think it's 'fine' because they have an idea of the content?

Which is more about the downside of Linda L's porn career and her subsequent career in anti-porn and feminist activism.

Also, 'The point of the film screenings is that new parents can't get out to an evening screening.'

This.

MortifiedAdams Tue 27-Aug-13 10:37:45

Well, im.not.paying to take a newborn to see fecking 'PLanes' or some.other kiddy film.when they cant even see two feet infront of their face.

These screenings are for parents. The baby will sleep, poop and feed. THats it.

Tiredemma Tue 27-Aug-13 10:39:48

I think this club is a brilliant idea.

I remember the cinema refused to play the Sex in the City movie due to 'sexual' content for a mother and baby screening, yet were quite happy to show the Indiana Jones movie which was really violent . . . we were all a bit hmm

ButchCassidy Tue 27-Aug-13 11:13:58

I will be going.
Why would being a mum holding my baby stop me watching films that interest me.
YABU

WilsonFrickett Tue 27-Aug-13 12:14:35

kiwi if it was Sex and the City 2, maybe it was just on grounds of good taste?? Worst. Movie. Ever. wink

OnIlkelyMoorBahtat Tue 27-Aug-13 13:06:55

Just because a woman has a baby, doesn't suddenly mean she's only interested in baby things. Or is the OP suggesting that mothers shouldn't be allowed to be interested in such films? A baby is not going to be following the film, for heaven's sake!

LadyClariceCannockMonty Tue 27-Aug-13 13:18:11

Quite, Wilson grin

pinkdelight Tue 27-Aug-13 13:46:48

From the queues at the local Odeon, Lovelace has a mainly female audience. It's not Deep Throat and it's not for men to whack off to. As I said, I'm not a fan, but it's always worth looking a little closer at what a film's actually about before leaping to conclusions / censoring what's appropriate for whom. We don't need another Mrs Whitehouse!

SarahAndFuck Tue 27-Aug-13 13:47:19

I thought the film sounded very sad. The man in the interview I read wrote a book about her and said he believed she never wanted to be anything other than a wife and mother and her abusive husband and then the culture in Hollywood forced her into a porn and prostitution life she never wanted to live.

It's meant to be about her life, not a recreation of her porn films, so even if they have scenes of her acting in them, they would hopefully not be presented in a porn way. If that makes sense. It's not a porn film, even though it's about a woman who made porn films as part of her career.

The little I've read about her and this film made me feel very sorry and sad for Linda Lovelace. And I do think the film might be interesting and very sad. Your baby won't care though.

OnTheBottomWithAWomensWeekly Tue 27-Aug-13 13:48:34

I don't understand why having a baby with you makes any film suddenly unacceptable. What difference does it make if I have my baby with me or not?

JADS Tue 27-Aug-13 13:49:21

YABU OP, but I do kind of agree with you, so I am BU too!

My DS took DN to see the Hurt Locker at a baby club screening. I thought that was weird, but they made the explosions quieter so that was OK confused. You have research saying that under 2s should never watch any TV because they grow up to be violent but babies being exposed to 15/18 films is OK {tongue-in-cheek}. I actually don't think it will do the baby any harm btw, I would just find it odd. And I wouldn't judge anyone who took their baby to one either.

When BF, I used to watch Ugly Betty a lot which I think is a 15 and I am therefore a massive hypocrite, Dh wasn't allowed to play Fallout New Vegas though which is an 18.

I thought even though the films were meant to be for parents they still had to be a u or pg.

OnTheBottomWithAWomensWeekly Tue 27-Aug-13 14:10:57

There is no research that says under 2s wtaching tv will make them grow up violent. I think you're conflating about 3 separate issues there.

MyThumbsHaveGoneWeird Tue 27-Aug-13 14:27:39

Another person here who spent the early breast feeding days working my way through True Blood! Can't beat a bit of gratuitous hot vampire sex for keeping you company during night feeds grin. But you know what? It's totally fine because tiny babies just don't notice. And when they do start noticing it stops being fun and you stop doing it.

I wish I lived near your cinema. My mother and baby screening options this week are a crappy looking snail cartoon called Turbo or the One Direction movie sad

MyThumbsHaveGoneWeird Tue 27-Aug-13 14:31:16

Did anyone else find that the look of bliss the vampires got as they bit into a person was really similar to the look a breast feeding baby has when they latch on? Or was I just sleep deprived and a bit dillusional?

LadyBigtoes Tue 27-Aug-13 14:39:01

I loved baby cinema and the fact that they put on loads of normal films aimed at adults, that I could enjoy - all sorts of stuff. I would have been most peeved if it had been sanitised for me.

However, I did see one ad for a baby cinema that was showing "We Need to Talk About Kevin" shock - now that does seem less like something I'd want to attend as a new mum...

pinkbear82 Tue 27-Aug-13 14:39:53

Op I don't think you Abu. I get its the topic of the film, not the rating that is strange. Wouldn't be my cup of tea to sit and watch with a bunch of strangers.
But get that some would be more than happy. However, it strikes me as a very select choice and not something that would hold mass appeal.

What ever floats your boat.

WilsonFrickett Tue 27-Aug-13 14:42:01

shock Ladybigtoes that's certainly not a new mummy film! Can you imagine!

LadyClariceCannockMonty Tue 27-Aug-13 14:42:30

pinkbear, if you wouldn't want to watch the film 'with a bunch of strangers' then that's a different issue. It has nothing to do with the presence or otherwise of a baby. hmm

It's also not a particularly select choice – it's a fairly mainstream film.

StillSeekingSpike Tue 27-Aug-13 15:06:23

====> Off the point- MyThumbs- that is an absolutely brilliant point about breastfeeding and vampires. I am stunned nobody has thought of that parallel before. YOu could easily get a PhD out of that thanks

pinkbear82 Tue 27-Aug-13 16:31:52

Lady - absolutely that's my choice, hence why I wouldn't go. Nice of you to agree with me on that point. hmm

I didn't say anything about the babies being there. I'm fairly certain that my 12 wk old wouldn't come back to me in future years and say she remembers watching a film about a porn star making millions..... Just the same she won't remember she watched dumbo either.

ermumof2 Tue 27-Aug-13 16:44:49

Yabu , the film is for adults , babies wouldn't have a clue what's going. on on screen , it's not going to do them any harm , and it is a film about Linda Lovelaces life , not a porno film.

meditrina Tue 27-Aug-13 16:53:20

"I thought even though the films were meant to be for parents they still had to be a u or pg."

You thought wrong. "Big Scream" type screenings (for adults plus a baby under 1 year) have permission to show any cert film.

It is only if children over 1 are admitted that they then become "Kids Club" type screenings, up to 12A.

If your local cinema is only showing U and PG at 'Big Scream' screenings, that is a local decision (perhaps because they have not yet applied for permission?) not because it is impossible.

LadyClariceCannockMonty Tue 27-Aug-13 17:11:41

pinkbear, I know you didn't say anything about the babies being there. That was my point. That's kind of the point of this thread – the OP doesn't think it's an appropriate film to watch with a baby, not that it's not an appropriate film to watch with a bunch of strangers.

MyThumbsHaveGoneWeird Tue 27-Aug-13 23:33:37

Thanks StillSeekingSpike! grin grin

Have just been inspired by your enthusiasm to have a good look on google scholar, and you are right, there is nothing! I am totally going to become the world expert. After I have had this next baby. If I don't forget.

Yonionekanobe Wed 28-Aug-13 09:26:54

Big Scream was fantastic when I had DD. the one activity in the week that was for me. So much so that DD1 is having her morning with grandma on a Thursday when DD2 arrives so I can go again!

As others have said Lovelace is a film about domestic violence and the stark contrast between a public persona and the life behind the screen. Meant to be quite harrowing. DH has no interest in seeing it whilst I would like to.

Tee2072 Wed 28-Aug-13 09:32:39

It's not a porn film, you know. It's a movie about a porn star. If it was a porn film and full of sex scenes a la porn, it would be rated NC17 or X.

You're being way beyond PFB and a bit daft.

The babies won't know or care.

DontWannaBeObamasElf Wed 28-Aug-13 10:06:57

I actually really want to see that film. Linda Lovelace led an interesting life and it'd be good to see how Amanda Seifried portrays her. If my local cinema shows it in baby club then fantastic.

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