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Hornets. Now, I'm not being unreasonable...

(52 Posts)
Caff2 Thu 22-Aug-13 23:00:18

...but surely they are for existing, and what the bloody hell do I do about them?

We have two hanging around by our back door, they're massive and terrifying and I'm allergic to wasp stings. Is my epi pen proof against these bastards? And how do I kill them without getting close?

I need them gone!

Wasapea Thu 22-Aug-13 23:03:01

I feel your pain. I have a bad wasp phobia. Never been stung touch wood so no idea if I'm allergic. Can you squirt spray at them out the window?

Caff2 Thu 22-Aug-13 23:06:13

I've got spray stuff, but in my experience it winds up the flies. I can't express how massive and horrid these things are! It's like room 101 with your worst fear made real!

Sanctimummy Thu 22-Aug-13 23:07:34

DON'T do this in front of kids.

Spray aerosol, lighter. Instant flame thrower.

MikeOxard Thu 22-Aug-13 23:08:43

Eeeeeeeeeeew YANBU. Have you considered moving house?

Caff2 Thu 22-Aug-13 23:11:35

It's like we're in the tropics. No insect this large should be allowed in the UK. They're like helicopters with their buzzing. OMG. I'm going to try and kill the one that's got in with the "fly spray, run, try again and run" method. God they're massive!

Wish me luck...

Caff2 Thu 22-Aug-13 23:20:35

It's been sprayed ad it's NOT DEAD, but dp has taken it in the dustpan up the garden. It's friend is suspiciously quiet. Is it plotting?

Caff2 Thu 22-Aug-13 23:26:22

Oh my good god. The other one is slowly dying behind our kitchen bin. Because of the spray, i should think. Angrily. Seriously, it's about two inches long. I feel a bit sorry for it. But not that much! A bit though,how can I put it out of its misery?

ThePearShapedToad Thu 22-Aug-13 23:26:29

Definitely plotting evil revenge. Watch out for a surprise attack around midnight. I hate the yellow and black buzzing things, I KNOW everyone says you shouldn't flap your arms and run around screaming like a small child, but I still do it anyway blush
Thank your lucky stars you have a dp to deal with them for you. I have to bribe my male friends over with pizza to sort mine out!

Caff2 Thu 22-Aug-13 23:31:54

Brave partner has scooped the poorly one and dumped at end of garden with the other. Omg. That was horrible, and may have involved me squealing like a girl! ;)

Caff2 Thu 22-Aug-13 23:33:04

They may rally, and come back with friends when they've regrouped!

RustyBear Thu 22-Aug-13 23:33:31

I use an old washing up brush for wasps (the one I keep for cleaning the bird feeders) They don't seem to see it coming and get entangled in the bristles long enough for me to dunk them in a jar of water. But your beastie sounds as if it might need a dustpan brush....

Monty27 Thu 22-Aug-13 23:34:53

I had one buzzing in my bedroom the other morning. They are scary gits. I coaxed it back out the window in the end. My heart was in my mouth mind shock

Caff2 Thu 22-Aug-13 23:36:38

They're back, that's it, I'm shutting all the windows and going to bed!

Caff2 Thu 22-Aug-13 23:41:30

You actually cannot kill them. It's banging, honestly banging, on my window!

Adikia Fri 23-Aug-13 04:45:41

urgh, hornets are my worst nightmare, 1 got in my kitchen once so I went to my parents house and refused to leave until my Dad came round to get rid of it!

Mayanbob Fri 23-Aug-13 05:02:06

You forgot to apply a shoe to them when they were incapacitated.

arethereanyleftatall Fri 23-Aug-13 08:10:57

Whenever you kill a Wasp you need to be super quick. They release a smell at some point during dying and then all their friends come to help.

Can they still release it if you flatten them as soon as they're stunned, then clean them up with a wet wipe? confused Touch wood, I've not fallen victim to a revenge attack yet.

PrincessYoni Fri 23-Aug-13 10:03:39

I found a hornet in my bedroom last year. i have no idea how it got in as there were no windows open so it must have taken an Alice in Wonderland style potion, squeezed through the trickle vent then expanded...or it may have hitched a lift on me through the door <shudder>. Anyway, I trapped it in a glass with a piece of cardboard on top and walked it outside.

It was looking at me with its head to one side. It appeared pretty intelligent. I went about 100 yards from my house and released it under a tree where it flew off quite happily. I can't imagine the agony of a hornet sting though. Wasps are bad enough- now they ARE evil feckers.

PrincessYoni Fri 23-Aug-13 10:13:14

From Springwatch:

New queens and drones (males) emerge in September and October, but only queens survive the winter. The sheer size of hornets terrifies many an observer, but they are surprisingly unaggressive, the gentle giants of the wasp world. In fact, they are stunning in their own way, with very sophisticated behaviour. But if you think you've seen one, double check to make sure it is not a hornet hoverfly, which lacks long antennae and has much bigger eyes. This is Britain's largest hoverfly and does a great hornet impersonation from a distance.

Pinupgirl Fri 23-Aug-13 10:13:55

I have a horror tale for you-getting ready to go out last weekend.Just about to put on my huge red petticoat-was a swing night-and what do I spy disappearing in the layers of chiffon but a huge wasp! I actually screamed.Dh was being a huge arse and wouldt help so had to get it on a bit of card and chuck it out window.I have also had one in my bed-vom.

Feminine Fri 23-Aug-13 10:21:04

If you happen to find the nest, pour boiling water down it at night.

We had to do this. Took care of them a treat.

Evil bastards had taken up a spot outside our back door. This was in the US ...they were like flying cocktail sausages!

Feminine Fri 23-Aug-13 10:22:57

Oh, feel a bit bad now I've read princessyonispost.

Still, they were not that peaceful in the American Mid-West!

Feminine Fri 23-Aug-13 10:38:00

are is so right about the smell.

A very long story...last year we stayed in a cabin in my Dad's garden. We lived there for 8 months. During the Spring, some delightful wasps started to build a nest in the roof. They used insulation and spit! Bit by bit they started to come in side our cabin. At first it was just one or two, on this day, my DH killed one ...out of NOWHERE came another one and stung me very badly on the ankle!

We had no idea (at this time) that we had been sleeping within inches of a giant wasps nest above our bed!

So, one day we noticed a patch of mould on the ceiling. DH decided to clean it off... a MASSIVE mistake! The roof gave way and hundreds of them came flying in. My Brothers took to killing them that evening, the following day was carnage. There were wasps all over the cabin in various stages of death.

The Queen still lived on.

Next day my DAD decided to "get rid of the nest" with the aid of just a broom. I remember watching him poke away in just his shorts, and my sep-mums summer hat!

As the queen died. The rest of them gave up, or flew away.

I admired their work ethic, that nest took ages and was very beautiful.

Just not above my bed.

LadyFlumpalot Fri 23-Aug-13 10:45:38

Had one of the fuckers in DS's bedroom last year. Was changing his nappy when I saw it. The only thing I had to hand was the pack of wipes which I slammed down on it. Of course it was woefully inadequate as a weapon so I was stuck with one hand on the wipes (the packet was vibrating with furious buzzing!) and the other hand on a very curious DS to keep him away, yelling for DH. He managed to get it out of tbe window in the end.

I am just at a garden centre buying a waspinator (and sat down for a cuppa while I consider buying multiple ones to give to family and friends). I don't know if they work yet but they have good internet reviews, they are basically things you hang up, they look like wasps nests and that make real wasps and hornets stay away.

34DD Fri 23-Aug-13 12:44:50

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

RustyBear Fri 23-Aug-13 13:42:14

My grandad used to cut wasps in half on the wing with the breadknife.

Never did fancy my nan's sandwiches....

sleeping, my lovely NDN has one in their tree just on the other side of our shared fence. I haven't seen a wasp in our garden all summer. Elsewhere, yes, but no where near the fake nest.

OHforDUCKScake Fri 23-Aug-13 16:25:42

Really MrsMango? We haven't been in our garden for 3 weeks because there's a nest near by (not sure where but at think its attached to my house) and the wasps are everywhere.

So I need a pretend nest. I can do that. <strokes beard>

HarrietSchulenberg Fri 23-Aug-13 16:34:53

Rustybear - my grandad used to pinch their heads as they flew past.

WilsonFrickett Fri 23-Aug-13 16:39:07

What's with all these ninja grandads? grin

I have never seen so many hornets as this year, it's crazy. DS is petrified so I have to try and stay calm I'm really not calm.

Yup, not a single wasp in our garden. Seen them at work, at the park, pub garden, but none in our back garden. They bought the fake nest thing as they got a real one last year very close to the house and had problems getting rid. Seems to have worked like a charm.

gymmummy64 Fri 23-Aug-13 18:50:50

I have to say these are brilliant. And very satisfying if not very eco-friendly

Adikia Fri 23-Aug-13 20:52:40

I'm going to get myself a fake wasps nest.

I think theres something about there being more hornets this year because of the unusually cold weather in spring and there being less wasps (which is also coz of the weather) and because we now have Asian hornets visiting (in some parts of England anyway) which are larger and more aggressive, they attack native bees.

Caff2 Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:47

Hornets made no reappearance, but I'm now flinching and flapping at harmless things like moths and crane flies! This is their legacy ;)

Oldraver Sat 24-Aug-13 00:19:23

I have only ever seen one hornet, I went to get in the car pulled the door shut and heard a buzzing.. turned my head and one of the big buggers was inches from my nose. I may of screamed just a little.

Caff2 Sat 24-Aug-13 00:23:11

The ONLY good thing about hornets is the noise. It lets you know about the bastards. But then, if they didn't exist, we wouldn't need the warning noise! Are they the worst British insect?

They attack bees? Bastards! I really don't like them now. sad

amandine07 Sat 24-Aug-13 05:46:18

YANBU!

Bloody hornets, wasps & bees- I hate them all!
I know bees make honey and some sort of important role compared to wasps/hornets (maybe they do & I need to be enlightened?!)...but I cannot stand these buzzing bastards!

amandine07 Sat 24-Aug-13 05:47:11

Before anyone says anything- IADNBU!!

digerd Sat 24-Aug-13 07:32:05

I have had 2 wasps nests in my loft in the 15 years I have lived here.
I leave them alone if they leave me alone. But the last time they began to get through the air gaps in the ceiling lights into my bathroom, the most dropping down right above the loo.
After sitting on it with a towel over my head and lap, decided I'd had enough and called in the exterminator. He had to come twice as the nest coverered a 6' length of the wall and after 2 weeks many were still alive.
My fearless DB went up into loft and marvelled at the intricate lace work and stamped on the dying ones left.

Did have hornets living in the side of our house in Germany by the patio, but DH said leave them alone and they won't bother you, unlike wasps that land on your lips to lick the beer off them. shock

FourGates Sat 24-Aug-13 08:09:59

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Adikia Sat 24-Aug-13 15:38:49

MrsMango, some species of hornet do yeah, it's Vespa velutina that are most worrying, they wait outside the bee's nest and bash against it a few times then as the bees come out to defend the nest the hornet kills them by snapping or biting their heads off then once its killed all the bees it destroys the nest to eat the larvae, there are very few of them in the south east of England so far, but they managed to invade France pretty quickly after a single nest was accidentally shipped there from Asia. because they aren't native there's nothing to stop them flourishing.

Normal European hornets just eat fruit and won't sting any worse than a wasp, and are slightly less evil than wasps (although most things are slightly less evil than wasps) and an epipen will work on them.

I once accidentally went too close to a wasps nest as a child and some got stuck in my hair, I developed a terrible fear of anything that buzzes for years, thanks to my mums colonies of bumble bees I can now cope with bumble bees, and I'm ok with honey bees once they stay till long enough for me to realise they aren't wasps but wasps and hornets still terrify me, the hope was learning about them would help but it didn't.

CrabbyBigBottom Sat 24-Aug-13 17:23:35

Was it a native UK hornet, or could it have been this? If so, zap it with the spray and take a photo of it and/or send the dead body to DEFRA.

The invading ones are a huge threat to our honeybees and the wellbeing and sanity of any normal person, terrifying bloody bastards.

CrabbyBigBottom Sat 24-Aug-13 17:30:56

Adilkia got there first; Vespa velutina is the Asian Hornet in the link.

I'm a community first responder and got sent to a call that came through as 10yr old fallen into a wasps' nest - 50+ stings and allergic reaction. shock shock The whole way there I was absolutely shitting myself visualising an enormous cloud of angry wasps buzzing around the patient! Thank fuck there were no wasps, the allergic reaction was a mild one and despite falling right into a nest and having to have all his clothes removed because they were all over him, he only had one visible sting! shock shock

Adikia Sat 24-Aug-13 18:09:54

They're horrible aren't they Crabby? The museum near me as a collection of insects pinned in displays and the Asian hornet is definitely one I never want to see a live one of, the only one that scares me more is its larger relative

Poor kid, he must have been terrified!

CrabbyBigBottom Sat 24-Aug-13 18:32:11

I wish I could describe my face whilst reading that Adikia - it was a mixture of shock hmm angry and shock. Why doesn't MN have a scared and disgusted emoticon... surely that would be well used on here. wink I'm so glad the UK doesn't have many truly terrifying creatures.

The lad was amazingly sanguine under the circumstances! His mum was the one with tension etched on her face. grin It's the only time I've ever seen paramedics arrive at a run (across a playing field on a very very hot day!) - usually their default pace is a leisurely saunter, whatever the emergency. grin

Did you read about the japanese honey bees defenses against hornets? That's impressive. They smother them, heat them up and push up the CO2 levels to kill off the scouts without raising any alarms for other hornets to pick up on. Clever bees!

Poor kid, I would have freaked out if that was me.

aliciaflorrick Sun 25-Aug-13 06:45:58

I don't mind hornets, and get them a lot here in my home in France. They're not aggressive like wasps. I generally get them upstairs so herd them into a bedroom, close the blinds and open a window. They aim for the square of light and leave. Saying that, it was in the newspaper last week that they'd destroyed a nest of Asian hornets in the village next to mine.

CrabbyBigBottom Sun 25-Aug-13 09:18:51

Wow I didn't read that far before I got freaked out by the thought of giant hornets that kill 30-40 people a year in Japan crosses Japan off my wishlist of places to visit!

Bees are bloody amazing!

The lad was obviously very shaken but remarkably calm. He'd slipped down a steep bank in woods, rolled all the way down it and landed right in the wasps nest. shock Makes me shudder just to think of it!

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