to ask you all how to stop eating rubbish!

(57 Posts)
peppapigsmummy Tue 20-Aug-13 13:55:49

I was always big, even in childhood.

I lost all my weight, 6 st of it. Around 4 years ago.
it was hard...but easy, in that it was my only focus and I felt very dedicated.

Fast forward to having a toddler and im overweight by 3st. I have tried and tried to get into the swing of loosing but am gaining and loosing the same few lbs constantly and im so fed up with myself.

I eat when stressed..

I eat when im bored

I work so much I fail to prepare properly. .then get stressed.

I eat kids leftovers etc

have constant access to food.

pleeeease tell me how to get out of this vicious circle and feel able to say no and genuinly not want it!

I have six months before I get married and im never going to forgive myself if I look like this!

Alliwantisaroomsomewhere Tue 20-Aug-13 13:56:39

sad Watching with interest and a fat belly.

Stop buying it is a start. how do you do that though? <helpful.>

No real advice tbh, but wanted to let you know that you are not the only one. thanks

SaucyJack Tue 20-Aug-13 13:58:50

Buy fun sized portions of sweets/choc bars or kid sized crisp bags for starters.

It's not realistic (or even necessary) to cut out all treats altogether.

HeySoulSister Tue 20-Aug-13 13:59:56

2 things jump out to,preparation!! buy in food and meal plan
two,eating kids leftovers....what are you feeding them that is so bad for you?

maybe re evaluate your whole families meals?

squoosh Tue 20-Aug-13 14:00:03

The key to weight loss is being in the right, motivated head space. The person who can bottle that will make their bajillions.

IfYouLoveSomebodyLetThemSleep Tue 20-Aug-13 14:02:16

I'll probably get flamed for this, but the best thing you can do is just stop eating crap. It really is as simple as that.
Don't buy it, don't eat it. As your stomach gets smaller it becomes easier. Just takes a bit of discipline to start with.

HeySoulSister Tue 20-Aug-13 14:02:40

why do 'treats' seem to only consist of crap?

you have control over what goes in shopping basket. though don't get me started on how expensive fresh food can be!

expensive (out of budget) fruits are treats here.

OHforDUCKScake Tue 20-Aug-13 14:03:19

I just dont buy the stuff in the first place.

If I buy a packet of biscuits, I will eat the whole packet in one day.

So, instead I dont but them. The house has meat, fruit, salad, veg, corn snacks and the like so I graze on them if Im desperate.
Also no bread or pasta ever. Ever.

Obviously you have to buy that. Just never eat it.

peppapigsmummy Tue 20-Aug-13 14:03:35

heysoulsister..hypocritically I am very hot on their nutrition and rarely do they have treats. .but when they do so do I! but leftovers in general are no good are they. .eatingine then a little bit more!

I exercise reguarly but see no improvement because of my weight. Its so frustrating to know how simple it is....but like today. .im having a good day food wise. ....and then eat four biccys! whyyyyy!

goodasitgets Tue 20-Aug-13 14:04:06

I try to ask myself if I'm bored or hungry - usually by thinking am I hungry for healthy food or crap?
If its crap, I have a glass of water or a hot drink then go and do something else

peppapigsmummy Tue 20-Aug-13 14:05:21

We don't have these things at home, if we do they are OHs and hidden.

I sneak out and binge...........or eat the naughtness I find at work...eurgh

IfYouLoveSomebodyLetThemSleep Tue 20-Aug-13 14:05:42

Next time you reach for the biscuits try distracting yourself and having a glass of water.

KatoPotato Tue 20-Aug-13 14:05:54

I had to learn to enjoy every bite. I used to hoover up shite food mindlessly. Takeaways on a Saturday were just a given, white bread chips, the lot scoff scoff scoff.

I made the decision to stop being a fat pie just over a year ago. I'm now 4 and a half stone lighter.

I still enjoy a wee treat, but I enjoy it. I'm mindful of what I'm doing and listen to my body when to stop.

If a takeaway is on the cards I plan it, i look forward to it, it's a treat!

You soon learn what 100 calories look like, and how long they'll take to shift on the treadmill.

Like previous poster said, it's not realistic or necessary to cut anything out completely, be that snacks, treats or carbs (I can't get my head around that one!) but you honestly can change how you think about them.

My FitnessPal is great and you can add me as a friend anytime ( username katoabes)

goodasitgets Tue 20-Aug-13 14:06:44

Oh and I low carb - so there is no crisps, bread, pasta, potatoes or sugar in the house which helps
If I'm desperate for something sweet I usually have no added sugar peanut butter on an apple, the more protein I eat the fuller I am

Try and have stuff prepped to snack on - roast chicken, chopped veg, berries

HeySoulSister Tue 20-Aug-13 14:07:24

well doesn't sound to me like you want to be losing weight!

what usually motivates you?

conantg Tue 20-Aug-13 14:07:30

Think positive. You used to be six stone overweight, you only have to lose half of what you lost before. Try to find time for three or four long fast walks each week. Walk fast. Cut out all fizzy drinks including so called low sugar ones. Log everything you eat on one of the apps you can download, and be honest about it. All of these suggestions have worked for me in an amazing way. Good luck.

Bowlersarm Tue 20-Aug-13 14:07:39

You do have to be disciplined and in the right frame of mind, or it will be too hard.

But the thing that works for me is no snacking. As simple as that. I eat fruit and yoghurt for breakfast or porridge maybe, lunch sometimes as early as 11.30/12.00. Then an evening meal at some point.

Don't eat anything between meals. Not 'just a.....', no cake at a friends, no muffin in a coffee shop, no finishing off kids food-it's better in the bin than on your hips. You know you won't starve because you have your next meal to look forward to.

Once you get in the habit it becomes easier. And once your stomach/appetite starts to shrink it becomes easier.

You have to be strong for those first few days/weeks though, before it starts becoming a habit.

NoComet Tue 20-Aug-13 14:08:27

Not buying rubbish - easy if DH didn't do it instead.
Not eating DC's left overs - again easy if DD2 wasn't so unpredictable. She's 12 and eats toddler sized to almost adult portions and you never know how much to serve her.

Not staying up late and being tempted to have a late night snack - damn you MN

peppapigsmummy Tue 20-Aug-13 14:13:15

but I do..I miss that body I worked hard for. I just struggle so bad now im working . Its like ive lost the ability to say no

I wish I understood myself.

HeySoulSister Tue 20-Aug-13 14:14:49

so its since you started working? do you work with food,or is it something else which is causing problems?

IfYouLoveSomebodyLetThemSleep Tue 20-Aug-13 14:19:42

You haven't lost it, you've just misplaced it smile

Whenever I go to eat something bad I stop and think "hmm, will this really help me look good in a bikini?". I also try to think of healthy foods as a treat, so instead of having some crisps I think "ooh I'll have a nice juicy pear, delicious!" Etc. thinking of good food as a negative will never work, you need to enjoy it.

NannyR Tue 20-Aug-13 14:24:08

What works for me;
- write down everything you eat for a few days

- measure out portions of things like pasta, rice etc and work out the calories in it until you get used to what a normal portion size should be. This was a big shock for me; I would routinely eat huge amounts of pasta thinking it was good for me/low fat.

- cut out snacking in between meals completely; don't replace junk with fruit or low fat biscuits, just don't eat snacks at all. If you eat plenty of protein and slow release carbs at meals you should be able to go between meals without grazing. This took me a while to adjust to but I feel much better now not having to deal with constant sugar cravings.

- what ultimately worked for me was going to see the GP for something unrelated, having a blood test and being told that my blood sugar was so high that if I didn't do something drastic about my lifestyle I would be diabetic in 12 months time.

- I found the NHS weight loss website quite helpful.

peppapigsmummy Tue 20-Aug-13 14:25:26

I think id out myself if I said. I love my job. just long hours out of the house..

peppapigsmummy Tue 20-Aug-13 14:27:39

I've never been a sugar person until pregnancy. I need to drop it like a hot potato but Iappear to be hooked.

FoundAChopinLizt Tue 20-Aug-13 14:27:53

Are you Mary Berry? grin

Betrayedbutsurvived Tue 20-Aug-13 14:27:58

First, stop considering food as "a treat". You are not a dog. Second, sit down and plan your healthy meals, for the week if you can, but for tomorrow is a start if a weeks worth is too daunting. Third, prepare said meals in as advance as far as possible so you're not tempted to have crap instead. Finally, read up on the damage that processed food is doing to your body, believe me the weight is the least of it. I can highly recommend Michael pollen as a starting point. Honestly, get through a month or so with no crap, at all, and you genuinely won't want it ever again.

blueemerald Tue 20-Aug-13 14:29:22

I find with boredom eating that having little hobbies help. For example, I learnt to knit and crochet so I do that when watching tv rather than snacking. I also hula hoop when watching TV if I'm feeling virtuous wink it doesn't burn a large (or even medium sized) amount of calories but you can't eat and hoop!

I know someone who covers her leftover food in washing up liquid or salt (in restaurants) to stop herself eating once she's full. Seems a little wasteful to do that at home to me but she used to compulsively over eat (she'd get up in the night to eat the leftovers out of the fridge) ad has now retrained her appetite.

HeySoulSister Tue 20-Aug-13 14:29:25

out yourself? well I was wondering if you were a Tesco checkout worker or something....deli counter worker etc

ShabbyButNotChic Tue 20-Aug-13 14:31:35

I could never stop eating treats totally, but i do put on weight easily so they are rationed. I tend to be 'good' mon-fri then eat what i want on a weekend. But i found over time that the good habits stick and you dont fancy the bad stuff as much. Also a treat doesnt have to be crap food, im just as happy with a bowl of grapes as i am with crisps. I also only buy treat size chocolates.
I do have a session every now and then (usually round that time of the month) when i think nothing of eating a chinese, then a bag of popcorn, then a bag of buttons, but as long as its not every day it doesnt matter too much.

I find a lot of my snacking is lazy, so try to always have things in the fridge eg carrot sticks and dip/chopped up pineapple/yoghurts/chopped peppers, then i can just grab something. I am a grazer and would happily not eat proper meals for days, so if i didnt prepare things i would eat chocs/crisps etc.

OHforDUCKScake Tue 20-Aug-13 14:37:25

OP do you have an ipad or iphone?

I found myfitnesspal brilliant. I lost weight and didnt at all feel like I was missing out. Its quite fun in fact. And certainly eye opening!

TooExtraImmatureCheddar Tue 20-Aug-13 14:39:55

One of my downfalls is free food. Yesterday I did low-carb all day, then when I got home Mum had left a bar of Toblerone as a thank-you for dog-sitting. Today I restarted, had scrambled eggs before I left the house, went to a work meeting and was offered the choice of scone, flapjacks or brownie. I said oooh, a brownie would be lovely. Why? Why? Why did I not go 'thank you, it's very kind but no'? Then having already buggered up today when someone came out of a catered meeting with trays of leftover sandwiches etc I had a mini sausage roll. Free food is not free carbs/calories, depending on which you're following! <tries to convince self>

peppapigsmummy Tue 20-Aug-13 14:44:01

heysoulsister. I work in childcare.

Sophita Tue 20-Aug-13 16:01:47

I managed to stop smoking by putting the money in a jar and eating too much chocolate so then I tried to loose a bit of weight with a similar tactic. The jar came back out, and everytime I wanted to crack and do a run to the cornershop for a kitkat, I'd put the money in the jar instead. I'd buy myself daft presents in the supermarket (nail-polish or a magazine or a bunch of flowers) instead of buying biscuits. I think as long as I still felt like I had treats, it didn't matter so much that they weren't edible!

whitesugar Tue 20-Aug-13 16:08:46

Go for a brisk walk every day before your wedding. Don't wait til you feel in the mood. Accept that you will probably never feel like going and go anyway. Doing exercise will help improve your approach to eating. Someone told me recently about an App called map my walk which counts distance, calories used etc. Apparently this is a big motivator. My teenage daughter is downloading it for me now. Your post reminded me about it. If you need advice about downloading post back and she can tell you how. Apols if I sound patronising about downloading, I am clueless.

Enjoy your wedding day. I wish I was getting married to someone who loves me!

mumat39 Tue 20-Aug-13 16:17:36

Hi OP, no words of wisdom here. I'm the same. Try most days to 'start' but have usually failed by lunchtime.

I have also lost and gained pretty much 10lbs on every diet I have tried and then put that back on and then some and am basically heavier than I was even when I was two weeks overdue with a big baby. blush

It's like I don't have an off switch. Someone upthread said if they buy biscuits they'll eat them in a day. I eat packs like they were crisps, so I could finish a pack in say 10 mins. I also hide that I've eaten stuff, and have been know to go out on the pretence of needing nappies justo get a few chocolate bars.

I am waiting for some CBT/counselling sessions so that I can work on my anxiety and depression. I don't know why I do it to myself either. Another summer has nearly passed and I've spent it feeling disgusting.

The only thing I know is that sugary stuff gives me comfort. And I can feel my shoulders relax as I stuff my face.

Sorry I can't help, but just wanted to share this with you so you know you're not the only one.

I am ashamed of myself, but really can't stop doing it o myself.


Famzilla Tue 20-Aug-13 16:51:43

If you have a smartphone, download 'my fitness pal' and log everything. Don't miss a cheeky biscuit or a sneaky glass I wine.

Through keeping a food diary like this, pledging to eat clean and going to the gym I have lost 4 stone since DD was born 5 months ago.

My problem was that I was in denial as to how bad chocolate & biscuits were for me and I was being absolutely ridiculous with portion sizes.

No faddy diets, no cutting out essential food groups which leaves you tired & miserable, no membership fees or complicated point systems. Just clean eating & exercise.

Also, Sunday is cheat day where I eat whatever I want all day. I never eat as much as I used to though, my whole outlook towards eating has changed.

Don't reward yourself with food, you're not a dog.

jaabaar Tue 20-Aug-13 17:08:01

Felt exactly like you. Lost 3st had baby and now back on. It was quite easy to loose the weight first time. This time I just couldnt get my mind into gear for 2 years.

The only think that worked for me was talking to myself (well silently).
I wake up and say to myself: im refusing to eat fattening crap. Im not hungry. I just dont want it.

Repeating this a few times before even getting a temptation has made it easier.

At the end u just believe it that u dont want to eat any rubbish

EauRouge Tue 20-Aug-13 17:15:44

Myfitnesspal is brilliant, I've been using it to cut down on sugar. Sugar is addictive; the more you eat, the more your blood sugar level crashes and you crave more. Don't buy biscuits, cakes etc. Switch to high cocoa content chocolate, you only need one square for chocolate cravings then. Get in lots of high protein snacks like nuts (raw, not roasted with tons of oil and salt) and seeds. They will help you feel full for longer.

And water, lots of water.

specialsubject Tue 20-Aug-13 17:35:37

don't buy the junk.
serve less to the kids. If they want more, they'll let you know. That way the leftovers can be covered and put in the fridge, not wasted.

NoComet Tue 20-Aug-13 17:58:20

DD2 never ask for more savory food, she just helps herself to more ice cream if hungry or munches an apple if I veto icecream quickly enough.

GameSetAndMatch Tue 20-Aug-13 18:01:42

I managed to lose a bit by bit by the following, as crisps and snacks are my weakness.:

ONE fun size choccy thing every 2 days.
ONE packet of crisps (try and buy the less than 5 fat)a day.
Handful of nuts (almonds).
ONE alchy drink a week.
ONE fizzy drink once a month.

secret is not to deprive yourself but cut down gradually. I find now if i reach for a second choc i feel sick!

mumat39 Wed 21-Aug-13 11:58:08

Famzilla, wow, that's a massive weight loss in 5 months! Congratulations!

Can I ask, what do you mean by eat 'clean'


KatoPotato Wed 21-Aug-13 12:02:27

If you can't pick it or kill it, don't eat it!

squoosh Wed 21-Aug-13 12:10:16

Phew, I presume Wispas are ok then as I pick them off the newsagent counter?

<hopeful face>

HeySoulSister Wed 21-Aug-13 12:19:12

google 'clean eating'

its basically nothing at all processed,all fresh food.....veg,meat,fish,eggs,fruit,nuts etc. worked for me too but gets expensive.

Busy yourself? I have lost loads of weight by stopping caring about losing it and starting putting all my efforts into something else...for me it was having baby and being left with no time. I am busy all day and a lot of night so don't think about eating. Get outside as much as possible. Plan to go out for a walk when you get home or sit in garden or whatever, just do something that tales your mind off it.

WallaceWindsock Wed 21-Aug-13 12:28:20

You work in childcare and don't want to out yourself?
shock shock You're Supernanny aren't you shock

justgivemeareason Wed 21-Aug-13 12:31:12

When are you doing your overeating? Like the poster above, keeping busy and going out and about really helps. Now it's the summer holidays and I am taking the children out for the day, I am so busy I don't think about eating. Fortunately I have a busy job too and don't have time to eat a lot. Being at home a lot, it is too easy to raid the fridge. I have always wondered when very overweight people find the time to buy and eat so much. They must prioritise that over kids, work, chores, socialising, everyday life really. What do you prioritise in your life?

Grumpywino Wed 21-Aug-13 12:50:43

I eat low carb which does mean avoiding processed rubbish. I see food as fuel and honestly have no interest in eating chocolates, bread, biscuits etc. They are wasted calories that do me no good at all. I get confused by people who are anti smoking yet stuff themselves with junk! I eat when hungry, and stop when full. I like to eat food that is palatable but I have worked hard to stop thinking of food as a treat or a reward. I work very long hours in a stressful job but always take the time to prepare food to take with me. I do love wine though......

Drink more. If you're hungry, have a drink of water or tea first. Then decide if still hungry after half an hour.

Work out your weaknesses - is it a vending machine or coffee shop? Don't carry cash and avoid them at key times eg lunch. Set up meeting for key snack times.

Give your kids smaller portions. If they have left overs then you're making too much.

Take lunch into work a couple of times a week and leave your wallet at home. Gradually you'll get used to eating less that way.

Don't shop when hungry.

Don't buy snacks.

Meal plan so you don't have excess food.

FastWindow Wed 21-Aug-13 12:54:06

I find it hard not to snack, so I've compromised. I eat unsalted nuts from Tescos, they come in bags with raisins so you get a bit of sweet as well. Why don't you do that old thing of sticking a picture of yourself with the six stone gone on the fridge and cupboard? Also agree with eating clean food - didn't know that was what it was called but basically food that is as close to its original state as possible.

DrinaDancesInParis Wed 21-Aug-13 13:07:23

Another vote here for MyFitnessPal.

But you must do it properly and write down EVERYTHING that passes your lips. (You bite it, you write it!)

For, say, the first week, don't necessarily make any changes. Just seeing what eg 4 biscuits and that packet of crisps does to your calorie count is eye opening. I found after seeing in black and white what I was eating, it was easier to control myself. Also knowing I have to log EVERYTHING makes me much less likely to eat that second biscuit. It makes you accountable to yourself.

I found I naturally started eating tons more fresh, healthy food because I could eat so much more and take up so many fewer calories. And, I actually enjoy food more now. I eat mindfully, so I really enjoy every mouthful, and there's no guilt attached, even when I have so-called "bad foods" like chocolate. If I do indulge I never hate myself for it, it's just part of the balance. I log it and keep it in moderation.

Good luck!

DrinaDancesInParis Wed 21-Aug-13 13:11:29

Sorry meant to add I've lost three stone doing this over the last year and a half and I'm now on "maintenance" calories. It isn't a quick fix, but a life-long change.

Congratulations on your engagement! I'm sure you will look beautiful on the day, whatever size you are.

sherbetpips Wed 21-Aug-13 13:19:15

The problem isnt just the eating its the buying, dont buy it and you cant eat it. Lots of fresh veg and healthy food in the house. Total and utter ban on soft drinks, crisps, cakes, biscuits anything like that. If it is there you will eat it - you know yourself well enough. Also no leftovers, ask the kids to scrape there scraps into the bin and dont cook too much in the first place - especially pasta, etc. It scraps tempt you have a squirt gun to hand so you can 'ruin' them by spraying with vinegar or something else stinky. My SIL did this trick as she was hooked on left overs.

yellowballoons Wed 21-Aug-13 13:21:07

Am wondering if you would benefit from those "delicious, home cooked, prepared and delivered to your door, weekly meals" or whatever it is that is advertised.
It would suit your busy life, mean you would look forward to your meals, and they are all ready calorie counted for you.

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