DD being fed spaghetti hoops for breakfast

(81 Posts)
Notimpressedhm Sat 03-Aug-13 11:40:48

DD is 11 and has gone for her intro/try out in preparation for her starting boarding school in September. She has informed me that she has had spaghetti hoops for breakfast, she has no problem with it but Aibu to think this is not acceptable? I would like to think she was being fed nutritionally the same as she would be at home confused

Sirzy Sat 03-Aug-13 11:43:00

Surely you found out what the food was like before deciding to send her?

If it was every day I wouldn't be impressed but once every blue moon fine. It's not that different from having beans for breakfast really.

AnotherStitchInTime Sat 03-Aug-13 11:43:07

Is that all she had? No toast, eggs, bacon etc... Did they have cereal on offer at all? The odd spaghetti hoops or beans as part of a wider breakfast wouldn't bother me, but on their own that is a bit odd.

What's wrong with spaghetti hoops? hmm

On toast, it's warm and filling.

Yabu!

Whothefuckfarted Sat 03-Aug-13 11:44:02

What's wrong with spaghetti hoops on toast for breakfast?

Just spaghetti hoops on their own.. hmm maybe question that,

Was there fruit on offer or cereal?

What were the lunch and dinner meals offered?

WestieMamma Sat 03-Aug-13 11:44:11

Why is it not acceptable?

<hides left over takeaway packet which was our breakfast>

HollyBerryBush Sat 03-Aug-13 11:44:26

Not a problem. What were you expecting? pop tarts? grin

BabyMakesMyEyesGoSleepy Sat 03-Aug-13 11:45:35

What brand of spaghetti hoops is more important. Cheap ones taste like perfume.

Spottypurse Sat 03-Aug-13 11:45:56

I'd be worried if it was left over kebab bought at 2am on the drunken stager home. But spaghetti hoops not so much.

Eyesunderarock Sat 03-Aug-13 11:46:09

My boarding school did vile food and not enough of it.
I suggest you check what is on offer for every meal over the course of a week. Although whatever they offer, she makes the choice. smile

CaptainSweatPants Sat 03-Aug-13 11:46:16

Sounds lush

That won't be all there was

They'll have been cereal, fruit, toast, probably cooked breakfast too, eggs on toast etc

If she chose to have that then it's up to her!!

well yes, what is the objections to spaghetti hoops please?

are, not is, oh the SHAME

Notimpressedhm Sat 03-Aug-13 11:46:59

She had it with toast, the other hot food choice was bacon or sausages and she is vegetarian. I did look at the food menu before we decided but they didn't have a breakfast menu. Last night for tea apparently was chips, beans and chicken goujons, i think I will just keep an eye on it.

First post, OP?

Spaghetti hoops with grated cheese, delicious! < ummm cheese, pulls a face like Homer Simpson>

Eyesunderarock Sat 03-Aug-13 11:48:04

Yup, I was a vegetarian at BS. Not good. You need to find out more.

BabyMakesMyEyesGoSleepy Sat 03-Aug-13 11:48:40

Anyone else really want hoops and toast?

curlew Sat 03-Aug-13 11:49:15

I would certainly expect better from a school. If it was one of the options available, then possibly, but even so.....

what does the prospectus say about menus?

Whothefuckfarted Sat 03-Aug-13 11:49:21

So the other hot food choice was meat which she doesn't eat, but you don't mention whether the was continental available, which I'll bet there most definitely was?

YABU.

BabyMakesMyEyesGoSleepy Sat 03-Aug-13 11:49:25

What cold options were there?

NeoMaxiZoomDweebie Sat 03-Aug-13 11:49:33

My friend went to Rugby and clearly remembers seeing massive cans of value beans etc in the kitchen through the window. Apparently the food was terrible.

CaptainSweatPants Sat 03-Aug-13 11:49:53

What did she have instead of chicken goujons if she's veggie?
Sounds standard for Friday

Sunday will be lush Sunday roast , yum

I wouldn't worry just yet

It's obviously not going to be as healthy as you cooking at home as it's mass catering like you get in canteens at secondary school for lunch

Sirzy Sat 03-Aug-13 11:50:35

Don't forget though as they only have a small amount of children there now compared to during term time the meal options will be more limited

CaptainSweatPants Sat 03-Aug-13 11:51:19

Curlew

Why?

What's wrong with spaghetti hoops?

BabyMakesMyEyesGoSleepy Sat 03-Aug-13 11:51:58

Neo you can't have cheap hoops and beans,some things are sacred grin .

Eyesunderarock Sat 03-Aug-13 11:52:01

I'd worry if they don't have a decent varied vegetarian option for every meal. I weighed well under 6 stone when I left at 16.

You'll be complaining about the cold baths and cheesy towels next.

curlew Sat 03-Aug-13 11:57:56

"Curlew

Why?

What's wrong with spaghetti hoops?"

Nothing- as part of a meal. But I would expect a more nutritious vegetarian option. Beans, for example. If that was all that was on offer, I would be concerned about other vegetarian meals too.

DumSpiroSpero Sat 03-Aug-13 12:00:52

In the grand scheme of things it wouldn't bother me occasionally, however...

My DH has been a head chef/catering manager in private schools (including boarding) for about 14 years and that sounds well below par in comparison to the menus he works with, more from a lack of choice POV than anything.

It may just be that they are going with 'fun' food as it's an informal taster weekend, but I'd be inclined to ask for more info particularly as your DD is vegetarian.

Can PM you a link to DH's current school menu if you like for comparison?

Lottiedoubtie Sat 03-Aug-13 12:02:08

If it's a 'taster' for 11 year olds it'll be kiddie meals all the way.

They mistakenly think the 11 year olds like it and will feel comforted.

There will have been continental and fruit on offer.

In September when they are catering for the full age range/staff it will be more varied, more nutritional and more 'adult' in tone.

What did the last inspection report say about food? Most BS have excellent chefs these days, it's become expected.

sweetestcup Sat 03-Aug-13 12:05:06

I would be very surprised if there wasnt cereal available!

LottieJenkins Sat 03-Aug-13 12:10:20

I went to boarding and we (house of 30 girls) used to get ravioli and spaghetti for breakfast. We also used to get the houseparents cat who used to bring dead things into the breakfast room and then climb on the table and lick the butter! [vom!!!] Those particular days there would be a rush on the flora!

Notimpressedhm Sat 03-Aug-13 12:13:09

Three was cereal but DD just prefers to eat a hot breakfast and I would like to think it was available for her healthily. The menu's for evening meals were mainly pasta based for vegetarians and I am fine with that.

diddl Sat 03-Aug-13 12:13:30

Spaghetti hoops for breakfast??

Surely it should have been farty beans?

SoupDragon Sat 03-Aug-13 12:15:03

IIRC, the main ingredient of spaghetti hoops is tomatoes.

Notimpressedhm Sat 03-Aug-13 12:15:38

I think I will relax about the spaghetti hoops and see how we get on.

Waffling Sat 03-Aug-13 12:18:44

Raise your kid yourself and cook her her breakfasts.

Easy!

difficultpickle Sat 03-Aug-13 12:22:19

Ds's school breakfasts vary from day to day but the range includes, eggs, bacon, sausages, beans, croissants, pain au chocolates, toast, cereal (including porridge), youghurts, fruit. He has breakfast at school every weekday even on days he isn't boarding as he says the breakfasts are better than he gets at home.

I think the food choices available are definitely very healthy but of course it is up to the child to choose healthy options. Ds says he is often the only one in his year choosing salad!

I think the meals are generally very good from what ds says and a good selection. All the meat is sourced locally from a butcher that also supplies the Queen. After school they get home made cakes and biscuits before doing after school activities and chocolate birthday cakes on their birthday.

Is this boarding school in the UK? I didn't realise they stayed open over the summer, ds's doesn't as the boarding houses are used by visiting choirs.

Eyesunderarock Sat 03-Aug-13 12:22:51

'What did the last inspection report say about food? Most BS have excellent chefs these days, it's become expected.'

I'm delighted that my experience is part of the long distance past. grin
There is no reason why children should be fed sub standard food, and their dietry needs should be met.

difficultpickle Sat 03-Aug-13 12:25:07

I would expect proper food to be offered at a taster day rather than 'fun food'. How on earth are you supposed to judge how it would be every day if it isn't representative?

CaptainSweatPants Sat 03-Aug-13 12:28:08

Waffling - so unhelpful

imnotmymum Sat 03-Aug-13 12:30:03

My kids often have spaghetti hoops on toast for breakfast.

Waffling Sat 03-Aug-13 12:34:28

I'm sorry, yes, I was unhelpful. I guess if you want to opt out of parenting your child the least you can do is assure you can pay for the best quality care.

Notimpressedhm Sat 03-Aug-13 12:39:50

Waffling yes at nearly 10k a term I would like to think I am paying for the best standard of care.

difficultpickle Sat 03-Aug-13 12:40:50

Breakfast choices at ds's school:

Fruit Juice
Assorted Cereals
Croissants With Jam
Grilled Sausage
Bacon
Croque Madame
Boiled Eggs
Spaghetti
Poached Eggs
Poached Eggs
Grilled Kipper
Full English Breakfast
Poached Eggs
Baked Beans
Toast and Preserves
Fresh fruit selection

I assume 'spaghetti' must be spaghetti hoops.

Lunch choices:

Lentil & Tomato Soup
Cream Of Mushroom Soup
Broccoli Soup
Vegetable & Pearl Barley
Chicken And Sweetcorn Soup
Lamb Potato And Mint
Barbecue Chicken
Pizza Slice
Homemade Meatballs
Fish Fingers
Lemon Chicken
Roast Beef
Pie
Herby Diced Potatoes
Sweetcorn
Penne Pasta
Fried Cod & Tartar Sauce
Noodles & Bean sprouts
Roast Potatoes
Green Beans
Grilled Lemon Courgettes
Potato Wedges
Roast Vegetables
Chips
Green Beans
Cauliflower Cheese
Yorkshire Pudding
Broccoli
Lambs Liver & Bacon
Glazed Carrots
Peas
Mixed Vegetables
Sautéed Cabbage
Sweet potato Risotto
Mushroom Filled Pancakes
Potato Wedges With Quorn Chilli
Macaroni Cheese Bake
Pasta Of The Day
Jacket Potato
Lemon Jelly
Rice Pudding & Jam
Steamed Syrup Sponge & Custard
Apple Crumble
Mousse
Citrus Sponge
Fresh Fruit Selection

Dinner choices:

Hot Hog Roast
Beef Stroganoff
Toad In The Hole
Southern Fried Chicken
Pork Rarebit
Club Sandwich
Pork Sliced served in a
Braised Rice
Mashed Potatos
Baked Potato
New Potatoes
Mixed Salad
Hot Roll
Mange Tout
Peas
Caesar Salad
Leeks
Fries
Tandoori Chicken
Cheese toastie
Prawn Cocktail
Apple Charlotte
Chocolate And Orange Sponge
Cup Cakes
Hot Eton Mess
Crepes
Chocolate Chip Cookies
Fruit Bowl

Not all these choices are available everyday but that is the menu over the week and there are three menus so you will only have the same choices every three weeks.

difficultpickle Sat 03-Aug-13 12:43:00

I've not bothered to look at the menus before this thread but it explains why ds was rather unimpressed at the lovely breakfast options we had at a smart hotel last weekend. It was a treat for me but from looking at his school menu it was clearly the norm for him!

Notimpressedhm Sat 03-Aug-13 12:44:06

Bisjo yes that does sound considerably better than our chosen school menu.

imnotmymum Sat 03-Aug-13 12:48:52

and at £10000 a term lets hope they plough their money into the education and resources

SoupDragon Sat 03-Aug-13 12:50:27

I'm sorry, yes, I was unhelpful. I guess if you want to opt out of parenting your child the least you can do is assure you can pay for the best quality care.

Your comment wasn't "unhelpful", it was nasty and bitchy.

HTH.

No worse than cereal.

theodorakisses Sat 03-Aug-13 12:58:56

We used to live in a boarding school, I was head of boarding and my husband was head. the boarding standards scrutinised our menus and whilst we had chips etc some days, we had a duty to educate the kids to make choices and carefully monitored them throughout the year. There will always be one or two who would eat nothing but sugar sandwiches but generally they chose a wide variety of foods, mostly healthy. The other thing is that they are very active when full boarding and do seem to want to eat a lot.
The try outers often didn't make great choices and would choose chips and beans etc, but once they had been with us for a few weeks would learn that we watched them and would send them back if they only had the crap, also the novelty wore off. You may find that she was feeling a little overwhelmed by the choices, was a bit hurried by the regulars who knew exactly what there was and where and just grabbed something that felt familiar. You are completely within your rights to worry, not least because you are both going to be feeling a bit anxious about this change. I expect the school do manage their boarders diet better than this and the issue is how they deal with your concerns, if you approach the houseparents and find them anything less than interested and supportive, i would worry.

IslaValargeone Sat 03-Aug-13 13:00:56

£10k a term? Good grief, where is she?

That aside, I think spaghetti hoops for breakfast is rubbish tbh, but I am wondering if it was just 'fun, comfort food' for their try out day?

antimatter Sat 03-Aug-13 13:01:29

out of interest OP - what hot breakfast does your DD have at home every day being vegetarian?

KoalaFace Sat 03-Aug-13 13:01:30

Waffling ouch! Did you board as a child or something?

Bisjo shock That menu is crazy. I always imagined at boarding school there'd be an elderly cook making chicken fricassée and semolina! Too much preteen fiction!

Notimpressedhm Sat 03-Aug-13 13:08:45

Antimatter she usually has either poached, boiled or scrambled eggs, quorn sausages and occasionally pancakes topped with fruit

KoalaFace Sat 03-Aug-13 13:12:42

NotImpressed Do you do a hot breakfast every day? That's very impressive!

Waffling Sat 03-Aug-13 14:01:29

Meh - unless you're ill (which I hope the OP isn't) then there's no excuse for it.

Lazyjaney Sat 03-Aug-13 14:02:36

Antimatter she usually has either poached, boiled or scrambled eggs, quorn sausages and occasionally pancakes topped with fruit

Blimey, I hate to think of the standard of lunch and dinner menus required! Good luck in your search for a school with enough Michelin stars OP.

Btw, it does help to look at the A* ratings too.....

trinity0097 Sat 03-Aug-13 14:22:47

Our school kitchen will cook vegi sausages etc, but only if they know that a child is vegetarian, once your daughter starts they will know and expect her for breakfast. Did she ask for a vegi alternative? When we have vegi children in for breakfast, or gluten free ones, their sausages are kept hidden in the hot plate rather on show so that someone else doesn't eat them.

candycoatedwaterdrops Sat 03-Aug-13 14:26:46

The school are going to LOVE you. grin

£10,000 a term, really? shock

Notimpressedhm Sat 03-Aug-13 14:51:00

Youstayclassy near enough 10k a term yes, this includes all excursions and trips plus 1 music lesson per week

difficultpickle Sat 03-Aug-13 14:55:36

Koala that is a menu for one week. There are two others with a different range of food. Ds says the food is very good indeed. He likes food that he hated at his previous school because the cooking is so good. It has made a real difference to how well he has settled into his new school. I hadn't really thought about food before but it is something I will be looking at when we consider senior school options.

Boarding is a different environment from home which makes it even more important that the food they have is good quality and enjoyable to eat. I've been on business trips where the food has been utterly dreadful and it coloured my view of the trip and that was only a week. I can't imagine having to put up with that every day during term time for several years.

Lazyjaney all the breakfast options the OP stated are available at ds's school and it doesn't have any Michelin stars that I know of. I don't think the OP has unreasonable expectations at all.

IslaValargeone Sat 03-Aug-13 14:56:24

Is that with Yehudi Menhuin?

£10,000 a term, bloody hell!

Picturesinthefirelight Sat 03-Aug-13 15:05:13

Blimey my two get cereal or toast for breakfast and that's it.

Dd won't be boarding but at the school she's going to (she spent a week at their summer school last week they had a choice of cereal, toast, eggs, sausages & beans.

DumSpiroSpero Sat 03-Aug-13 15:07:36

FGS - the OP doesn't need an excuse to do what she thinks is best for her child - boarding schools are hardly the dens of corporal punishment and buggery they used to be.

The one DH used to work at was fabulous, and there was plenty of opportunity for the kids to see their families.

It's not what I'd choose for DD, who'd hate it, but after an overdose of Enid Blyton I was begging my parents to send me to boarding school by the age of 8! They didn't, and I'm sure it wouldn't have lived up to my storybook expectations but that's obviously not the case for OP and her DD who are perfectly entitled to choose their own path

Primadonnagirl Sat 03-Aug-13 15:13:40

I think you are over reacting based on just one days offerings. Veggie or not there's always going to be some days that she doesn't much fancy what's on offer..when you've revealed the other options she was hardly going to starve. Beans can be just as bad if packed with sugar and salt. I really think you are worrying over nothing in the grand scheme of BS potential problems!

thebody Sat 03-Aug-13 15:14:21

Gosh my teens go to the local comp and the menu range is like a Jamie Oliver recipe book. fabulously tasty and all home cooked and healthy.

money for old rope these boarding schools then.😄

Picturesinthefirelight Sat 03-Aug-13 15:15:56

I would never ever have thought I would contemplate boarding school for my dd but I'm currently feeling bad that we can't afford for her to board at a specialist school where several children board on full scholarships (she has bursary not scholarship so boarding not covered)

livinginwonderland Sat 03-Aug-13 15:35:43

I went to boarding school and they will provide veggie sausages/bacon for kids once term starts. I was vegetarian for a couple of years and all you had to do was ask for vegetarian sausages and they'd get you some - they just didn't keep it out front because they didn't want other (meat eaters) people to take them!

sweetestcup Sat 03-Aug-13 15:36:04

Still think you are complaining over nothing OP if there was cereal available. But you wont have the same level of control that you would have if she was at home. Never understood the point of boarding schools either, I would miss my kids too much but each to their own, if I had £10,000 it would be a private school I would pick.

slapandpickle Sat 03-Aug-13 15:42:54

Beans would be better for every day, it's important for her to get her protein somewhere. however I have been known to feast on a tin of value spaghetti with croissants dipped in, the combo is DELICIOUS and I suggest everyone tries it.

frogspoon Sat 03-Aug-13 16:20:19

Most decent boarding schools have a full varied range of food and alternate through popular choices. So maybe spaghetti hoops today, but perhaps veggie sausages yesterday and scrambled eggs tomorrow?
Also as it was just a taster day, there will be fewer students in school, therefore probably a smaller selection that average was provided. If you are still worried, contact the school and ask for a breakfast menu.

I'm going to be teaching in a boarding school in September, if you are interested, this is a selection of what the school is offering:

Every day: Cereals inc porridge, bread, toast and preserves, coffee, tea and juices, yoghurt and fruit
2 days a week: continental breakfast including pastries, cheeses and meats
Hot foods available on the remaining 4 days (not everything every day) include sausages, bacon, black pudding, eggs, french toast, beans, spaghetti hoops, hash browns and bubble and squeak.
On Sundays they have a brunch including full English, as well as weekly options such as omelettes, chocolate croissants, homemade sausage rolls, smoked haddock, baked brie wedges, chicken wings and paninis.

(unfortunately I will not be a live-in staff, so I will not get to sample this delicious food!)

Picturesinthefirelight Sat 03-Aug-13 16:46:00

I was wrong, they didn't have a cooked breakfast option dd has just told me but that might be because it was out if term time & also being a dance school they don't want to dance on a heavy breakfast.

Every day there was toast, cereal & fruit with jams & marmalade. Then each day there was another item eg bagels, breakfast waffles, croissant, muffins.

Dd was in her element she thought the choice was fantastic.

Lottiedoubtie Sat 03-Aug-13 18:02:33

frogspoon play your cards right and lots of non-resident staff get breakfast IME ;-)

trinity0097 Sat 03-Aug-13 18:14:13

Frogspoon I am a non resident in a school with some bording and have every breakfast at school, and if I want to stay for supper this isn't a problem, I just have to sign up by lunchtime. Breakfast is also available on days that we don't have any boarders in.

My (non-vegetarian) DD will happily make herself beans on toast for breakfast. Healthier than alot of the cereals out there.

slapandpickle your value spaghetti'n'croissants combo sounds like a meal born of desperation when you are starving and the cupboard is empty delicious wink

frogspoon Sat 03-Aug-13 20:27:40

My (non-vegetarian) DD will happily make herself beans on toast for breakfast. Healthier than alot of the cereals out there.

Check the brand of beans you are getting, many are packed with sugar and salt, more than a bowl of cereal (obviously depends on the cereal!)

A serving of heinz baked beans (half a can) contains 10.3g of sugar and 1.3g of salt

A serving of kelloggs corn flakes with milk contains 9g of sugar and 0.55g of salt

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