To think that this should not be every little girl's dream?

(135 Posts)
IForgotMyPencil Fri 02-Aug-13 18:34:19

Just been watching the 6 o'clock news on the BBC, where Fiona Bruce claimed it was "every little girl's dream" to be able to write her occupation as "Princess". Following on from the Duchess of Cambridge entering "Princess of the UK" as her occupation when registering her son's birth. Am I being unreasonable to think that there are other things little girl's should aspire to be? And for that matter, the BBC should not be enforcing the stereotype that all little girls want to be princesses! hmm

When I was young I wanted to be a boy. Why settle for princess when you can be king?! grin

Tee2072 Fri 02-Aug-13 18:36:33

Interesting. Huffington Post says Will filled out the form.

When my son was born, it was done on a computer...

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MiaowTheCat Fri 02-Aug-13 18:37:37

Don't go into Mothercare at the moment if you're easily offended in this kind of way - they're flogging sparkly pink babygros with "when I grow up I want to marry a prince"

I was irked.

Amrapaali Fri 02-Aug-13 18:38:27

Another brilliant reason to abolish the monarchy.

SalaciousBCrumb Fri 02-Aug-13 18:41:35

Agree with you.

Tee ours too - but then, the registrar didn't do a home visit for you or me - home visit means no access to the computer system!

SamuelAndOscarsMummy Fri 02-Aug-13 18:41:42

This sort of thing makes me glad I have boys!

SamuelAndOscarsMummy Fri 02-Aug-13 18:43:42

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kinkyfuckery Fri 02-Aug-13 18:45:06

Fuck that, I'm 29 and would love to be a princess - if for nothing else but to have someone train me how to wear heels grin

kinkyfuckery Fri 02-Aug-13 18:45:36

SamuelandOscarsMummy - your boys might still wanna be princesses yunno wink

NicknameIncomplete Fri 02-Aug-13 18:47:42

My 9 yr old wants to be just about everything when she grows up but being a princess doesnt get a mention.

foreverondiet Fri 02-Aug-13 18:48:43

I didn't think she was formally made a princess?

Tee2072 Fri 02-Aug-13 18:49:06

Ours was actually done in the hospital via laptop so, yes, remote access! And this was 4 years ago.

Panzee Fri 02-Aug-13 18:50:26

My niece stated she wanted to be a princess. We told her that as she wasn't a royal, she had to either marry a prince or stage a military coup. So it's not all about marriage. smile

FriskyMare Fri 02-Aug-13 18:50:51

Thought the same thing foreveronadiet, surely she is a duchess not a princess.

Grrrrrrrrrr

Prozacbear Fri 02-Aug-13 18:54:09

shrug DS told me he wants to be Africa when he grows up ... at least Princess is within the dimension of possibility.

But seriously, Fiona Bruce needs to retract.

Tee2072 Fri 02-Aug-13 18:56:15

That is correct, she is not a princess. That's why I think it's fake.

Surely he would put his rank, not his title?

Wbdn28 Fri 02-Aug-13 18:56:28

YANBU

VerySmallSqueak Fri 02-Aug-13 18:56:33

DD2's view on this is that she wants to be a vet and nah she doesn't want to be a princess cos there's just too much stuff and they'd all fuss over her. She's 7,so it's definitely not my little girls dream.....

Thank goodness.

TroublesomeEx Fri 02-Aug-13 18:58:39

I wanted to be a farmer's wife.

Never wanted to be a princess.

GameSetAndMatch Fri 02-Aug-13 18:58:58

i would think given some of the role models around a little girl would aspire to be eithera glamour model or go on x factor.!!

Fakebook Fri 02-Aug-13 19:03:03

I wanted to be a tomato....because of some advert back in the late 80's early 90's. it was really cool to want to be a tomato in our playground...weird!

IfIonlyhadsomesleep Fri 02-Aug-13 19:03:55

I would mind my dds genuinely aspiring to be anything that was as unlikely and impossible to work towards as being a princess. This isn't the Philippa Gregory style Plantagenet era. But I wouldn't mind my seven year old saying it. I believe that when I was seven I was a bit gutted that Prince Charles got married but relieved that he had two brothers. While she still believes in Father Christmas and the tooth fairy I'm not too worried.

MissMarplesBloomers Fri 02-Aug-13 19:04:23

Little girls DO often think they want this though, its part of exploring their role, discovering pinkness, girly stuff & rejecting it as the phase passes (with the help of more positive role models & totally not making a thing of it. )

Like (some) boys, bashing each other & breaking heads of things, playing with their willies (ok maybe that doesn't change?!)

I have 2 DD's, always swore we wouldn't go down the Barbie route, but age 3 &5 we were ankle deep in pink fluffy nonsense.
But they also liked Thomas the Tank & lots of other "boy" things .

By 5 & 7 it had passed & now they are 2 very individual young women at 16 & 18 who are tomboy grunge & hippy chic respectively & not a pink item in sight.

There are some kick-ass Princesses out there (Fiona in Shrek) & I think Kate will not be the submissive Princess of the past.

One of the D of C's official titles is Princess William of Wales, so, yes, she is a princess. She cannot, and will not, ever be 'Princess Catherine' as only daughters of the reigning monarch, and the daughters of his/her two eldest sons can call themselves 'Princess X' (e.g. Beatrice and Eug), or 'Prince Y' if it's a son. That's why Zara and Peter Phillips and Edward and Sophie's kids aren't 'Prince/Princess'. The Queen signed a special widget to enable William and Kate's kids to be styled Prince or Princess. Diana, contrary to popular belief was never officially 'Princess Diana'. She was Diana, Princess of Wales.

I need to get a life, don't I? hmm

Sparklymommy Fri 02-Aug-13 19:15:15

Elphaba you just saved me typing all that out!

As for little girls wanting to be a princess, it's not all bad. My oldest (10) is our carnival princess for the second time and equates this as ticking it off the list of been there, done that! She is a dancer, and whilst we do the pink and glitzy we also do the dark and sinister.

IfIonlyhadsomesleep Fri 02-Aug-13 19:16:27

And I would wish for financial security for my daughters (and son -there's plenty of scope for them to marry princesses) and to have babies safely with one to one care from a midwife. So-I guess I wouldn't mind if dds became princesses-no one says they can't achieve other thing too, surely?

IForgotMyPencil Fri 02-Aug-13 19:18:57

I just think that little girls can aspire to be someone that changes the world, and that being a princess is not the way to go about that. Nothing Kate has done since marrying her husband has changed the world, yet women of much lower titles have changed it for the better, for example, Rosa Parks. smile

Prince George might be gay, and by the time he's marriageable age, same-sex marriage will be well and truly entrenched in law. So we might not get a princess after Wills and Kate but we might get a queen (or two) succeeding Will after all! grin

Weegiemum Fri 02-Aug-13 19:29:46

My girls sat "whaaaast?"

They'd rather have a "career" apparently!

Turquoisehat Fri 02-Aug-13 19:30:11

Iforgot - your last post doesn't make sense. Why can't a princess aspire to change the world? And Rosa Parks died a few years ago, so hasn't done anything since Kate became a princess.

My dd wanted to be a princess when she younger, now she is seven and wants to be an author or a social worker. I have no problem with that.

Flobbadobs Fri 02-Aug-13 19:34:37

The best thing about children born now is that they can aspire to be anything they want to while they're growing up. Girls can want to be a princess, hell I knew a boy who wanted to be one many years ago, he's now a mechanic..
Reality kicks in for the majority when they're older and they get a sense of what they really want to do and what they excel at.
DD1 loves all things Disney and pink. She also loves Adventure Time and the Simpsons, playing cricket and gardening. Currently she aspires to be a farmer.
Giving our children the freedom to choose means just that, letting them choose and go through phases of whatever it is this week. This is why I didn't worry when DS had his phase of only communicating through train noises. He wanted to be a steam train, not a driver, a train!
Children need to be left to be just children sometimes instead of having adult ideals pushed onto them.

HappyMummyOfOne Fri 02-Aug-13 19:35:05

Its just fantasy, children say they want to be many things but change their mind many times. Better a princess than a celeb.

Children often end up copying their parents so some will make a difference and become doctors, teachers etc. Others will have other jobs and many wont work.

IForgotMyPencil Fri 02-Aug-13 19:38:21

Of course you can be a princess and achieve great things, but the reporter made it sound like becoming a princess is the most you could aspire to be, which I think is untrue! smile

expatinscotland Fri 02-Aug-13 19:40:39

Barf! What about every little boy's dream?! DD2 wants to be a detective inspector. Sounds better than Princess.

WaitMonkey Fri 02-Aug-13 19:41:45

I totally agree with you. But I still want to be a princess

UnexpectedStepmum Fri 02-Aug-13 19:43:19

I wanted to be an astronaut. DD wants to be a lollipop lady.

DiseasesOfTheSheep Fri 02-Aug-13 19:43:26

I wanted to be a sheep dog. Not much has changed, to be honest!

OctopusPete8 Fri 02-Aug-13 19:44:08

When I was little girl my fave film was jaws, I wanted to chase man eating sharks on a boat...not sure thats any better haa,

KingRollo Fri 02-Aug-13 19:45:44

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MrsKoala Fri 02-Aug-13 19:46:47

I wanted to be a bond girl or failing that one of those dolly birds which walk around a boxing ring holding a number between rounds. At school we had to say what we wanted to be (when i was about 5) so i stood up and said this. All the other girls said nurses. The teacher looked shock . As i got older i added page 3 girl to the list blush

(in case you are wondering, no, sadly i didn't achieve my dream, thank fuck)

Flobbadobs Fri 02-Aug-13 19:47:37

kingrollo given your username obviously you were born to be royalty!
(I used to love that program..)

Shrugged Fri 02-Aug-13 19:47:52

Unexpected, I wanted to be a lollipop lady, too. Then I wanted to be the guy who walks backwards in front of airplanes at airports waving two ping pong bats to get them on the stand.

ImNotBloody14 Fri 02-Aug-13 20:00:03

I wanted to be the tango man and run round tangoing everyone- 'you've been tangoed' grin

lljkk Fri 02-Aug-13 20:02:23

At 5 I didn't aspire.
I was convinced I'd grow up to be a bag lady at best.
DD was well into being a princess though.

ImNot That was the best advert ever!

Remotecontrolduck Fri 02-Aug-13 20:05:37

I think you are putting massive emphasis on something that is just fun for kids

Most little kids want to be a prince or princess at 4 or 5 don't they? And then the next day they want to be an astronaut....

By 15/16 most want a proper career, it's just a childish fantasy. Maybe one or two girls still want to be one. I don't particularly care, I'm happy we live in a society where girls can be whatever they want tbh.

You're over thinking it, hugely.

ComposHat Fri 02-Aug-13 20:05:50

I dont have a daughter but if i did andI actually gave a gram of fuck about what occupation they wrote on a certificate, id want it to be a worthwhile career they enjoyed rather than Royal brood mare/sexual helpmeet

squoosh Fri 02-Aug-13 20:06:36

I wanted to be a cat burglar.

squoosh Fri 02-Aug-13 20:07:35

Fiona Bruce does simper on as though it's 1953, although to get where she is she must be extremely career minded herself.

Capitola Fri 02-Aug-13 20:07:43

Bit of a tangent, but you'd think they would get someone with decent handwriting to complete the form.

ConstantCraving Fri 02-Aug-13 20:08:53

DD (3) wants to be a train or a chicken when she grows up confused.

squoosh Fri 02-Aug-13 20:10:19

It is a bit scruffy looking!

ImNotBloody14 Fri 02-Aug-13 20:12:52

It really was SP! They should have them back on again like the retro fruit pastilles ad.

BoulevardOfBrokenSleep Fri 02-Aug-13 20:24:53

DD wants to be a Rescue Princess this week.

But I'm thinking I can spin that into Zoological Researcher Into Endangered Species (Bling Optional).

IneedAyoniNickname Fri 02-Aug-13 20:29:10

Ds2 (6) wants to marry Kate Middleton (on the basis she can ubmarry William) and therefore become King. He doesn't quite understand the line of ascension grin

When I was 7 I was going to marry Prince William and be a princess. Now that I'm 28 I've out grown that because I've realised that Harry is the one

LynetteScavo Fri 02-Aug-13 20:31:09

I never wanted to be a princess, it never even occurred to me. Who'd want to marry someone ugly like Prince Charles (which was they way to do it when I was a little girl).

I wanted to be a pop star, or a brain surgeon (I thought cutting up brains would be cool), but people kept telling me I'd have to work really hard to be a brain surgeon, so pop star sounded easier.

fuzzpig Fri 02-Aug-13 20:35:03

YANBU. DD (6.1) really loves Disney (all of us do in this house TBH) and enjoys dressing up and all that but she has never said she actually wants to be a princess. In the past she has said artist, writer and dress designer (should really start saving for a sewing machine hmm).

I did ask her again just now and was convinced she would say princess as we just watched Enchanted for the first time. But she just shrugged and said I don't know.

That said I think teenagers wanting to be a celebrity (famous for being famous, not specific careers like acting etc) is more harmful, if it leads to an attitude of "why bother working hard", than a brief childish fantasy of being a princess.

Alisvolatpropiis Fri 02-Aug-13 20:39:21

Well, it's a dream I suppose.

Is they anything wrong with little girls of dreaming of being a princess? It would be fine if she was dreaming of becoming a doctor wouldn't it? When in reality neither are very likely for the majority.

Alisvolatpropiis Fri 02-Aug-13 20:39:32

*there

HollyBerryBush Fri 02-Aug-13 20:44:38

Yes Kate is a Princess, she takes her husbands rank, and is an HRH also. She chooses not to use it in the same way Camilla choses not to be known as Princess of Wales for obvious reasons.

ChippingInHopHopHop Fri 02-Aug-13 20:46:37

Don't we have a feminism board precisely for this kind of stuff??

squoosh Fri 02-Aug-13 20:49:06

What's your point Chipping? hmm

Where is the list of Permitted Topics for AIBU?

Tee2072 Fri 02-Aug-13 20:54:42

But she doesn't use it, Holly, so why would she put it on the birth certificate?

DesperatelySeekingSedatives Fri 02-Aug-13 20:54:42

That is a bit meh isn't it? I dont think I ever wanted to be a princess. The thought never crossed my mind. I remember wanting to be a nurse just so I could stick needles in people (I was a horrible child) and a spy but not a princess.

DD has gone from wanting to be a "policeman lady what does ballet" when she was 3 to wanting to be a vet who is also an author and illustrator now aged nearly 6. She likes to dress as a princess but doesnt seem to want to be one when she grows up. possibly because it would involve marrying a boy and boys are "yucky".

DesperatelySeekingSedatives Fri 02-Aug-13 20:56:37

"That said I think teenagers wanting to be a celebrity (famous for being famous, not specific careers like acting etc) is more harmful, if it leads to an attitude of "why bother working hard", than a brief childish fantasy of being a princess."

yes to this ^

MammaTJ Fri 02-Aug-13 20:57:11

DD1s dream job when she was little was to be a formula 1 racing driver.

DD2 does indeed want to be a princess, as does DS! grin

holidaybug Fri 02-Aug-13 21:00:11

I'd still love to be a princess

Growlithe Fri 02-Aug-13 21:01:24

Oh let little girls enjoy fairy stories whilst they can. I'd like DD(5) to grow up and do something amazing, but I don't mind just now her life being filled with silly girly pink stuff.

I've got DD(9) to remind me they grow up and out of this stuff soon enough. She told us when the baby was born that it was really unfair that be gets to be king because he's just a baby and we don't know if he is any good yet. She wants to know why the king/queen can't get voted in. When she was 5 she wanted to be a princess too. See, their brains don't turn to mush because they like to wear plastic tiaras when they are little.

She didn't, Tee. Someone else decided what would be entered there, presumably the one/s who knows best when it comes to the archaic pointless protocol of these things.

FairPhyllis Fri 02-Aug-13 21:09:54

Those particular boxes on the birth certificate used to say 'Father/mother's rank or profession'. So they have filled it out correctly because their ranks are respectively Prince of the United Kingdom and Princess of the United Kingdom. If for example you were a peer you could write your rank in there.

She is a princess of the United Kingdom by marriage and is therefore Princess William of Wales rather than Princess Catherine. But because William is a royal peer (a duke) he uses his peerage title because being a peer is higher than being a commoner (albeit he was a royal commoner - and yes that's a real thing), which is what he was before. And she follows his lead.

Wannabestepfordwife Fri 02-Aug-13 21:12:35

I wanted to be a gangsters moll or Pamela Anderson I used to run round in my swimming costume with my mums bra stuffed with socks underneath so I would be relieved if dd wants to be a princess.

babybythesea Fri 02-Aug-13 22:02:00

Well, my four year old did indeed say she wanted to be a princess.
Along with three other things: a mermaid, a detective and a cockatoo.

At least 'princess' takes the list of achievable careers (at least in theory) to 50% of her total!

Didactylos Fri 02-Aug-13 22:57:24

I wanted to be a viking
then when realised that wasnt an option, an archaeologist
then an assassin or a Ninja

I sadly have achieved only one of these life goals

VileWoman Fri 02-Aug-13 23:13:43

I wanted to work in a bank, my sister wanted to be a writer, DD1 (5) wants to be a scientist, DD2 (4) wants to be a pirate. I think that is actually worse than wanting to be a princess! So Fiona Bruce is wrong, every little girl's dream is not to be a princess.

Elsiequadrille Fri 02-Aug-13 23:17:04

You're quite right in everything you say! Yanbu.

FreudiansSlipper Fri 02-Aug-13 23:18:44

angry

not thankfully it is not every girls dream to marry a rich man and do very little but turn up places looking nice

sadly it is what too many young women aspire too

Angelfootprints Fri 02-Aug-13 23:22:19

Well I wanted to be just like princess Ariel.

Alisvolatpropiis Fri 02-Aug-13 23:24:26

I always want to look nice, so I do it's not that hard rfor anybody really

I also want to be rich. Granted I would prefer that be rich from my own money but if I met and fell in love with a rich man - am I meant to sack him off because I am not rich myself?

Bearing in mind that to me and my (not by any means poor) family, the Middletons fall into the "rich" category regardless of their royal connections.

mrsjay Fri 02-Aug-13 23:27:55

I agree with you whole heartedly but I dont think little girls who love princesses are any less IYSWIM, and TBH my dd loves Kate she seems a lovely person and not the traditional simpering princess

My DD wanted to be a paleontologist when she grew up, so is living proof that Fiona Bruce is wrong.

I take full responsibility - I hate pink, loathe the monarchy and don't have a romantic bone in my body so what hope did she have of marrying William?

mrsjay Fri 02-Aug-13 23:28:53

DD wanted to be princess jasmine when she was wee

marienbadmadsad Fri 02-Aug-13 23:33:42

Like most girls in my class I wanted to be a nun or a ballet dancer.

edam Fri 02-Aug-13 23:34:25

Elphaba, what's with the only daughters of the two eldest sons get to be princesses idea? I'm sure in generations past every grandchild of a male child of the sovereign got to be a prince or princess. Hence Prince Michael of Kent.

FreudiansSlipper Fri 02-Aug-13 23:34:40

i am sure many girls want to be a princess at some point and like to play at being a princess, many boys (and girls) want to be a racing driver but it is not mentioned in the news in the same way i have yet to hear Lewis Hamilton won today and every little boy dreams of doing the same one day

mrsjay Fri 02-Aug-13 23:34:42

I wanted to be a zoo keeper im not

babybythesea Fri 02-Aug-13 23:54:07

"I take full responsibility - I hate pink, loathe the monarchy and don't have a romantic bone in my body so what hope did she have of marrying William"

Me too Laura. And yet DD, at 4, loves pink, is fascinated by the princess, tells me hearts mean love, wears dresses rather than trousers (the prettier the better) and asked for lipstick the other day.

I haven't worn a dress since she was born, apart from my sister's wedding day. I don't own any make up at all and haven't since my late teens. I like wellies and being outside. DD has taken me by surprise - I don't know where it comes from. It is who she is at the moment though!
My mum thinks it's hysterical and tells me with glee that I have a real little girly girl. I know - it is weird!

MidniteScribbler Sat 03-Aug-13 01:46:26

Could be worse. Late night television one night had a woman being awarded playmate of the month or some such rubbish. Her parents were crying and said "this is so much more than we could ever have dreamed she would achieve." hmm

WafflyVersatile Sat 03-Aug-13 01:54:35

No it shouldn't.

IT would give me a kick to write Princess of the UK on a form mind. grin

nooka Sat 03-Aug-13 01:56:35

It's just a dumb cliched thing to say really. Many little girls do dream about being a princess, but not in a real Princess of Wales when I'm grown up type way, more a fairly tale and right now context (with no writing involved I suspect).

FloweryOwl Sat 03-Aug-13 02:40:22

The other day I asked my three and a half year old dd what job she would like when she was older and she told me she would like to be 'the spongebob that walks around Blackpool Pleasure Beach.'

EugenesAxe Sat 03-Aug-13 05:44:19

I agree with RemoteControl - the BBC seem to have been delivering what's (IMO) a non-important item of celebrity news with a squidgey introduction that will appeal to the masses.

'Princess on Board' or clothes saying 'Daddy's Princess' - let's face it, a lot of people buy into it all. Of course it doesn't mean the BBC genuinely think that, or that it reflects reality.

Edam I'm not sure where I got the two eldest son thing. Maybe it's a recent thing, part of the queen's downsizing of the family? Neither of Edward's kids are prince or princess, but they've been given token titles.

edam Sat 03-Aug-13 10:15:56

YY Elphaba, I've wondered how on earth Edward's children are only Lady and Viscount while the other grandchildren (of sons) are princesses or princes. It's the first time it's ever happened, as far as I know.

Only reason I can think of is the downsizing of the royals. Seems a bit unfair on Louise and whatever her brother is called, though, to be treated differently from their cousins.

Apparently the reason he's an Earl, not a Duke, is that he will inherit the Edinburgh title from Philip.

IneedAyoniNickname Sat 03-Aug-13 10:18:50

My mum told me that Edwards children aren't prinxe(ess) as their mum wouldn't allow it. Not sure how true that is though. She's a royalist, and has tons of books about them so I've always assumed she knows what she's talking about.

IneedAyoniNickname Sat 03-Aug-13 10:19:37

At least I think she was talking about Edwards children confused

mrsjay Sat 03-Aug-13 10:20:01

Her parents were crying and said "this is so much more than we could ever have dreamed she would achieve.

god sake I wonder when her playboy dream started that is really chilling crying over your dd getting her bobs out

mrsjay Sat 03-Aug-13 10:21:15

Edwards daughter is lady louise she was a flower girl at the wedding not sure what the little boys title is ( is his name james ?)

mrsjay Sat 03-Aug-13 10:22:08

princess annes children do not have Titles she took the HRH away from them whent hey were children so they are just Zara and Peter Phillips

Bowlersarm Sat 03-Aug-13 10:23:28

Edwards children are titled. Do mean princess Anne's children, Peter and Zara? They don't have titles.

IneedAyoniNickname Sat 03-Aug-13 10:24:57

Oh yea! sorry my mistake, I should listen when she rabbits on educates me. It was Zara and Peter she was talking about blush

WineNot Sat 03-Aug-13 10:33:26

Sophie and Edward chose to have their children titled in the style of the children of an Earl, not a Prince. So, although they are/were legally entitled to be Princess Lousse/Prince James, they are instead Lady Louise and Viscount Severn.

The Princess Royal refused all tiles for her children so they are, officially, Mr Peter Phillips and Mrs Michael Tindall.

George, as the great grandson of a monarch, was not automatically entitled to be a Prince, until the Queen issued Letters Patent before he was born, I believe.

mrsjay Sat 03-Aug-13 10:33:52

Prince Edwards son is James,viscount of severn confused

tabulahrasa Sat 03-Aug-13 10:34:54

The thing is while of course there are other things that little girls should aspire to be and a lot more useful and achievable things and of course not every little wants to be a princess...

Does no one else think that it must be a bit of a perk to be able to put that as your occupation? It'd amuse me no end.

mrsjay Sat 03-Aug-13 10:35:06

re instead Lady Louise and Viscount Severn.

I should have waited for ^ ^ that and not googled

WineNot Sat 03-Aug-13 10:35:28

Ooh, and OP... I don't think anyone seriously believes that it should be every little girl's dream to be a Princess.

I think it's the media going totally over the top. Again.

mrsjay Sat 03-Aug-13 10:36:09

Does no one else think that it must be a bit of a perk to be able to put that as your occupation? It'd amuse me no end.

DD was telling me last night about it and DH said but he is a RAF pilot I said but look how cool the brth certificate will be grin

feelokaboutit Sat 03-Aug-13 10:38:42

The worst thing about all of this is that William and Kate obviously believe the fantasy, upheld only by the media, money, and outdated bowing and scraping types with vested interests. Take away all of that and you have a less than averagely intelligent, bog standard young couple who have had a baby. "Prince and Princess of the UK" hmm - sounds too much like the movie "Enchanted". They're certainly not anything to do with my UK or that of thousands of other hard working people who have to sweat to make ends meet angry.

Sorry, rant over.

WineNot Sat 03-Aug-13 10:39:07

Yeah, I wouldn't mind being able to fill it in as my occupation...

Only if I could wear a crown while doing it though [big grin]

Boosterseat Sat 03-Aug-13 10:40:15

I wanted to be a princess and a mortician.

I drew a picture when I was 8ish of me in a black gown and tiara with a little saw "for taking the top of people's heads off so I can weigh the brain.

Fucking strange kid me.

WineNot Sat 03-Aug-13 10:40:34

I'm not going to bite.....
I'm not going to bite.....
I'm not going to bite.....

WineNot Sat 03-Aug-13 10:41:08

boosterseat grin

Boosterseat Sat 03-Aug-13 10:43:04

my uncle was a coroner, I was bloody fascinated.

tabulahrasa Sat 03-Aug-13 10:47:43

"Yeah, I wouldn't mind being able to fill it in as my occupation..."

I wouldn't want to actually be a princess...but being able to legitimately put it as my occupation on a form? grin

Though to be fair, I work for my self employed DP and I did try and persuade him to change my job title to Emperor of the galaxy of X company, but he was having none of it.

Morloth Sat 03-Aug-13 10:53:52

I don't want to A queen, I want to be The Queen.

One of my high school teachers once decided to complete a form with 'Lord' in place of 'Mr', just for shits and giggles. All correspondence thereafter from that particular company was addressed to 'Lord Brian'. grin We, naturally, used that title henceforth.

Question: 'His Royal Highness Prince' are actually printed under 'Name'. Does that technically make those his first four names?? There's no space on a birth registry for a baby's title, and William has His Royal Highness blah blah blah under 'Name' as well.

I give up on who gets what titles. Totes confused.

JustforMe Sat 03-Aug-13 11:04:39

I think the monachy should be returned to having sole power I wonder what that would be like for a quick change lol.
I would also like to write that on the form it would be cool

edam Sat 03-Aug-13 11:16:37

Childhood dreams are interesting - I actually got mine. Kind of. I wanted to be a writer and I am, but I wanted to be a novelist and have ended up being a journalist. So I do write, but features, not books, and facts, not fiction.

I now work on a magazine where we have book reviews and it has completely put me off ever trying to write fiction. There are TOO many bad or mediocre books in the world, judging by the pile of tosh hopeful publishers send to my office.

EugenesAxe Sat 03-Aug-13 18:20:44

WineNot - laughing here due to a random set of coincidences... namely your typo of 'tiles' instead of titles, and that it was Princess Anne that refused them.

Reason being, my mate's DM has a loo-book of posh language (we refer to it as Highspotty (houseparty) although that might be it's actual name), that features the words:

Prizzers Air - Princess Anne and
Tiles - towels

HSMMaCM Sat 03-Aug-13 18:26:13

DD age 14 wants to be a princess/prime minister/surgeon/dancer

Is that ok?

foreverondiet Sat 03-Aug-13 22:52:59

Elephaba - that's not quite right - all grandchildren of the monarch down the male line are princes and princesses - so that's why Princess Anne's children aren't as they are female line grandchildren. Edward and Sophie's children are technically prince and princess but there was an agreement for them not to use the titles.
But yes I suppose she is Princess William of Wales as she can use her husbands title.

FiftyShadesofGreyMatter Sun 04-Aug-13 06:20:21

So why did the Queen issue a wotsit so that baby George could be a prince? What would he be if he was not a prince and was that not good enough for Will and Kate? confused
What diff does it make to the fact that he is 3rd in line to the throne? even more confused

ComposHat Sun 04-Aug-13 09:46:04

Yes Anne and Mark Philips never had a title to refuse for their children. Their children were not grandchildren of the male line.

DanceParty Sun 04-Aug-13 10:18:47

They're certainly not anything to do with my UK or that of thousands of other hard working people who have to sweat to make ends meet

Bet you'd be glad feelokaboutit if you were in danger and Wills rescued you in his trusty helicopter grin

Oh, and as far as I know, Wills actually worked for his money when flying - it's called a wage you know. Same as other pilots. Oh, and he paid tax and national insurance. Oh, and paid rent on his house in Wales.

feelokaboutit Sun 04-Aug-13 10:49:28

Yes, but that's a token. He apparently has personal wealth of up to £12 million, and a father with a far larger pot of assets / income. Where does all of that come from?

Also, why, when you consider this wealth, is the taxpayer paying for the £1 million refurbishment of Will and Kate's flat (as well as other royal excesses - HUGE amounts on their travels):

www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jun/27/kensington-palace-refit?

edam Sun 04-Aug-13 12:07:27

Compos - apparently the Queen offered to give Mark Phillips a title, and again to give their children titles, but Anne refused. Princess Margaret's husband was a commoner but was made Lord Snowden on marriage so their children have titles.

IslaValargeone Sun 04-Aug-13 12:17:06

My dd has wanted to be a fairy, Prime Minister, a vet, a doctor, a spy, someone who works in an office and has Earl Grey tea brought into them and yes at some point a princess. I'm not going to overthink things at this stage.

DanceParty Sun 04-Aug-13 12:22:42

Oh blah blah blah blah grin

Thisvehicleisreversing Sun 04-Aug-13 12:24:31

MrsKoala I told my teacher I wanted to be a page 3 girl too grin
In my defence it was around the time Sam Fox was very popular and I just thought she was amazing. She was all happy and smiley with a song in the charts so I thought that looked like a good thing to do grin

I'm not a page 3 girl. Or a pop star.

feelokaboutit Sun 04-Aug-13 13:07:04

The fact that they are effectively partly living off handouts we fund and partly off inherited wealth of dubious origin while people are having to go to food banks to eat, is a contradiction worth mentioning...

I know they do their bit to contribute, but that doesn't change the fact that they are ridiculously over-privileged and (in my opinion smile) an anachronism.

PearlyWhites Sun 04-Aug-13 13:10:11

My dh filled in a form last year

Pigsmummy Sun 04-Aug-13 14:55:52

I am 38 and would love to be a princess when I grow up.

ComposHat Sun 04-Aug-13 16:00:21

I'm 33 and would like to be a child prodigy when I grow up.

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