To rant about my children's now ruined brand new clothes?

(276 Posts)
D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 15:31:27

I know I am BU but I am so pissed off I don't care.

My parents took my children camping at their expense for two weeks. This is awesome and I am incredibly lucky to have such a close and supportive family.

As the weather was hot and they've grown since last summer, I had gave them their holiday clothes for our holiday this year.

My parents have allowed them to go a play park in their brand, spanking new white shorts. They have not soaked the resulting stains as soon as they occurred, they've been through the wash twice with surf, vanish in wash and vanish spray on stain remover, nothing has touched it, they're now soaking in the sink with half water, half vanish. They're obviously going top need replacing angry

I know I am lucky that my kids got a free holiday and in the grand scheme of things they're only shorts, but I am so fucking annoyed that no-one thought to ask them to change into more suitable clothing for going to the park in the mud. They'd only worn the shorts once.

strawberrie Fri 02-Aug-13 15:32:22

I think you were U to send your kids on a camping holiday with a pair of white shorts!

cushtie335 Fri 02-Aug-13 15:33:11

Glad you know YABU. Who buys WHITE shorts???

whois Fri 02-Aug-13 15:33:44

Yes, you are being U. Two weeks free child care and a lovely holiday for the DCs is cheap at the price of a pair of new shorts.

Should have sent them in cheap primani for a camping trip!

TWinklyLittleStar Fri 02-Aug-13 15:33:57

I cannot imagine a single activity that would be done on a camping holiday for which white shorts would be suitable. Sorry but YABU.

thegreylady Fri 02-Aug-13 15:34:01

white shorts+children+camping=absolute idiocy smile

LynetteScavo Fri 02-Aug-13 15:34:01

You think you are going to be able to find new shorts in the shops now? Seriously?

I feel you pain, and top trump you my DM letting my DC paddle in a stream in their school shoes. Yes, I know I desperately needed after school childcare that day, and it was good of her to help me out but.....

LadyMaryQuiteContrary Fri 02-Aug-13 15:34:11

Just dye them and don't buy white shorts!!

CailinDana Fri 02-Aug-13 15:34:38

Why on earth did you buy white shorts? Children get dirty, it's a fact of life, if you buy them unsuitable clothes then you can't really blame anyone else when they predictably get destroyed.

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 15:34:42

They were white and light pink and they were supposed to be for going to the pub in hot summer evenings, they had dark denim shorts for the day time.

Will they ever come clean? It looks like they've got oil or something on them.

MammaTJ Fri 02-Aug-13 15:35:25

YABU! I would not have sent them campling in new white shorts/white shorts/new shorts!

purrpurr Fri 02-Aug-13 15:35:28

Not just white shorts but.. Matching pairs? As in, one pair of woefully inappropriate clothing per child?

Ragwort Fri 02-Aug-13 15:35:36

Who on earth sends their children camping in brand new clothes.

Actually who earth buys children white shorts?

Why should your parents have spent their holiday time soaking the laundry?

Kikibee Fri 02-Aug-13 15:35:40

If all a child free fortnight cost me was 2 pairs of shorts I would have bought them ages ago, you are def bu and you know it smile

PeppermintPasty Fri 02-Aug-13 15:35:45

Can you actually buy white shorts for children? shock

<<Checks Devil Dog is securely tied up before I unleash an AIBU>>

It might be that your DC insisted on wearing these shorts.
I know my DD is very decisive (read that as stroppy) when she gets an idea about what she wears. Though I'd say "No way" if she wanted to wear brand new white shoes in mud.

It's annoying but you might be able to salvage them.
As you say it was lovely for them to go on holidays.

thebody Fri 02-Aug-13 15:36:51

agree with the others! white anything in kids is a bit daft but camping!!!!

you are so lucky to have your parents and if you can afford another holiday then you ain't short of a penny are you.

stop whining, your fault entirely and have a grip!

ComposHat Fri 02-Aug-13 15:36:56

white shorts? white SHORtS?

Shakes head in disbelief!

purrpurr Fri 02-Aug-13 15:37:11

I don't even wear white and I don't make a beeline towards dirt like a moth to a flame. I always feel sorry for kids in white. It's just asking for trouble.

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 15:37:19

They always pick matching clothes, god knows why, I used to hate it when my mum dressed me and my sisters in matching outfits, my children, oddly, like this confused

I bought the shorts mainly for my holiday, which is a mudless beach holiday but had nothing else to pack for them to go camping in.

PrincessKitKat Fri 02-Aug-13 15:37:30

I'm 34 and can't be trusted with white anything, ever.

I think you had unrealistic expectations to send white shorts with children on a camping trip thinking they would return unscathed.

Did your DCs have fun? smile

Ragwort Fri 02-Aug-13 15:37:34

So a two week camping holiday for your two children (therefore giving you free childcare/time alone or to work - whatever) - and it cost you two pairs of shorts. Sounds fantastic. grin.

CailinDana Fri 02-Aug-13 15:37:51

Keep them as dusting cloths and let them act as a reminder not to buy white clothes for children!

LazyMonkeyButler Fri 02-Aug-13 15:38:19

Let them wear clean-but-stained shorts? It won't kill anyone.

I think you probably know YABU. Your DC had an extra holiday & you had a peaceful 2 weeks. What would have happened if the DC had accidentally sat in oil or something whilst wearing said shorts? Clothing accidents can happen anywhere (but white shorts for a camping trip are slightly optimistic) grin.

HollyBerryBush Fri 02-Aug-13 15:38:34

How much were they, because you will have spent more than the initial price on stain removers.

And try soda crystals. grin

HatieKokpins Fri 02-Aug-13 15:39:44

They will never come clean. You shouldn't have sent the shorts if you didn't want the kids to wear them!

Can you get a pack of dye and change the colour of them to something darker that will cover the stains?

You know yabu but its okay to have a moan.

White shorts on kids. grin Please at least tell me they were cheapy ones from Primark?!

LazyMonkeyButler Fri 02-Aug-13 15:40:15

A "mudless beach holiday" grin. Pah, your underestimate a child's ability to find mud anywhere grin.

PeppermintPasty Fri 02-Aug-13 15:40:20

Get thee hence to Primark or H & M for a nice pair of off white shorts from their bargain rails. £2 when I last looked.

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 15:41:09

Dd1 was determined not have fun, dd2, whose shorts are the most ruined had a whale of a time.

We already had the vanish. Dd1 insists on wearing long, flowing dressed to walk the dogs in. We use lots of Vanish. I normally soak things while the stains are still wet.

Soda crystals? I think we have some of those somewhere.

HoikyPoiky Fri 02-Aug-13 15:42:30

Oh dear, I think you will have to chalk this one down to experience. YWBU (very).

honeytea Fri 02-Aug-13 15:43:05

White shorts would get ruined no matter where they wore them, if they were at the pub there would be tomato sauce to drop on them and grass stains and drinks to be spilled. There is nothing wrong with children wearing dark shorts to the pub.

I hope you bought your parents a big bunch of flowers for being so kind and taking your dc away.

HellonHeels Fri 02-Aug-13 15:43:13

I wouldn't worry about it - just let them wear them as is, stains and all.

Isn't it a normal state of childhood to be wearing stained or dirt-infused clothes? Like on the persil ads?

HellonHeels Fri 02-Aug-13 15:46:06

Ah yes, your follow up post

Dd1 insists on wearing...

kind of gives a clue about why the 'wrong' shorts came to be worn and get dirty. I imagine your parents couldn't be arsed with any potential arguments about what your DDs should be wearing.

NotYoMomma Fri 02-Aug-13 15:46:13

yab ridiculous

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 15:46:27

honeytea, I looked after their zoo full of exotic birds for them and was on call to take in their aggressive whippet if the kennels kicked her out, as I always do when they go away camping.

The shorts are now sold out. They had lovely matching tops too sad They were from Tesco, I think. Or BHS. We bought all their stuff from either Tesco or BHS.

imnotmymum Fri 02-Aug-13 15:46:53

mucky kids equal happy kids and white shorts what were you thinking. They had nothing else to pack for camping ?? They were for pub lunch out. Red sauce, bolognese, curry ...its a minefield out there. Bleach?

I washed my guinea-pigs white towel with Ecover in a hot wash and hung it out in the sun.
All their little poohey marks came out.

<<I washed the towel at 60c not the guinea-pigs >>

Viviennemary Fri 02-Aug-13 15:46:58

I think YABU. It is annoying about the shorts. But kids can spill something on clothes even if they are in a 5* hotel. So white shorts aren't suitable if you expect them to stay pristine.

PatriciaHolm Fri 02-Aug-13 15:47:09

Can they not just wear them anyway?

Yabu. White shorts would get filthy on a mudless beach holiday too. I hope you didn't show your angry to your parents, because that would have been beyond yabu.

MummytoMog Fri 02-Aug-13 15:49:07

My DD would have insisted on wearing them if they were pink. But YABU to buy them in the first place ;)

LingDiLong Fri 02-Aug-13 15:51:22

I'd just let my kids wear them anyway. Are they both white and pink? If they're just white you could soak them in bleachy water.

White clothes for kids though - madness I'm afraid!

The ability of dc to spill things on clothes is in direct proportion to the paleness of the clothes times the expense of the clothes divided by the amount of angst it will cause the parent and added to the distance away from the washing machine - Einstein said that, I think.

ImNotBloody14 Fri 02-Aug-13 15:52:05

I'm sorry- i really am but this is grin

I cant believe you thought white shorts would come back from a 2 week camp unscathed! And even moreso that you are blaming anyone other than yourself for being so silly.

There was no chance at all they were coming back clean. You know that really dont you? grin

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 15:52:34

I've only just noticed. I haven't had time to do their washing until today due to covering holidays at work.

I haven't seen my parents so haven't mentioned the shorts and they've offered to help me out with the impending puppy doom I about to face, so even if I wanted to be annoyed with them I can't because they are just so bloody nice and helpful, damn them angry wink

I really liked those shorts.

TheYoniWayisGerard Fri 02-Aug-13 15:52:43

Bleach them. I bleach anything white and stained of DDs. Oh and YABU, but you know that.

MissSingerbrains Fri 02-Aug-13 15:55:12

Hang them out in the sunshine, hopefully that will bleach them! Works for lots of things.

Apart from that, YABU, sorry smile

jacksgrannie Fri 02-Aug-13 15:56:42

You can get stains out if the article is all white and is a normal fabric (cotton/linen/polyester or similar).

I have just done this with my own white broderie anglais top (seafood sauce all over sleeve - Vanish didn't touch it).

I got some household bleach and diluted it with cold water in an old china bowl (so not neat - fairly well diluted). I put about a tablespoon of bleach in a cereal bowl size receptacle. Then I dropped the stained part of the top into the diluted bleach. 5 minutes later - hey presto, stain gone, top perfect.

Alternatively, put the whole garment in a large bowl.

Obv would not work with colours or patterns.

As a grannie, can I just say I think you are being unreasonable. Two weeks camping holiday for two children - would have cost ££££s if you'd had to pay for it and the children must have had a wonderful time. I hope your mum is not a mumsnetter and reads this or she may not offer again!

Weegiemum Fri 02-Aug-13 15:57:16

Wondering now at the idea of putting my rather stinky guinea pigs through a 60* wash? Or should I be kind and go for 40*?

OutragedFromLeeds Fri 02-Aug-13 15:57:49

Slightly off topic, but why do your DC's require a 'pub outfit'?!

What sort of pubs are you frequenting where they turn away kids wearing denim/dark coloured shorts?

Caboodle Fri 02-Aug-13 16:00:33

Yabu- free holiday! Also, white is fine (my boys wear lots of white, we use lots of bleach) but white with a pattern -uh oh

imnotmymum Fri 02-Aug-13 16:01:16

No she meant a going out outfit mine have them when we go camping

5318008 Fri 02-Aug-13 16:01:19

Think about why you like your girls in pale colours, why you get them flowing dresses. Examine your opinion, why ought they not get grubby, do you discourage physical play, v subtle stuff. Pink stinks etc.

UnexpectedStepmum Fri 02-Aug-13 16:01:19

DH and I have no family in this country, and have to pay for any babysitting. We go out together maybe three or four times a year. Having people take DCs on holiday for free, for two weeks? You are RUINED.

On a practical note - dye the shorts. You can get dye packs in Wilkinsons or big Tescos, and you put them through he washing machine with salt. Choose a nice dark colour, because as one or two people have already noted, light colours are not practical for kids!

EndoplasmicReticulum Fri 02-Aug-13 16:02:18


White shorts? I don't buy myself white shorts. On my children they would last approximately 30 seconds.

I did have a thought about this while sitting in the local park playground yesterday. It's often muddy there. Many children seem to come to play in pink leggings or party frocks or white trousers, flip-flops, sparkly sandals, and end up in a right state.

My children also end up in a right state, but they are wearing grubby denim and trainers.

Buy some machine dye, dye the shorts purple.

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 16:02:20

They are patterned so I can't use bleach and upon having just put in my next load and noticed they've allowed my sister to wash their cerise play suits (which were expensive and were packed with strict instructions to only be worn at the pub disco and then put away again) with indigo denim shorts I am now very annoyed.

They playsuits are now being Vanish washed while the shorts soak then I will wash them again on a hot cycle and hope for the best.

I will have to say something if I cannot save the play suits I'm afraid.

Ragwort Fri 02-Aug-13 16:02:31

I've just sent my DS off camping and deliberately packed his oldest, scruffiest clothes.

However, as a Scout Leader we do have to spell out to parents not to send their children with designer labels/expensive clothing etc etc. One boy came hiking with his brand new trainers costing £100 and told us he wasn't allowed to get them muddy hmm - you can guess the state of them after a five mile hike grin.

hermioneweasley Fri 02-Aug-13 16:03:14

I agree with the perso who said that 2 weeks Childcare and a free holiday is the cheapest bargain available if t cost to the price of a pair of shorts! YABU and massively ungrateful.

Your parents sound ace, why would you even waste head space on being pissed off over shorts? What a strange choice.

pictish Fri 02-Aug-13 16:03:21

So...your oarents took your kids away for two weeks at no expense to you, and now you are whinging about some stains on their clothes??
Perspective please!

And white shorts on a camping trip? Don't be daft.

orangeandemons Fri 02-Aug-13 16:05:13

My dd loves white shorts. They get absolutely filthy! I just wash em with Vanish. They come up fine.

Redlocks30 Fri 02-Aug-13 16:05:18

noticed they've allowed my sister to wash their cerise play suits (which were expensive and were packed with strict instructions to only be worn at the pub disco and then put away again) with indigo denim shorts I am now very annoyed.

Are you for real?!

You do know you're being silly don't you? Sod the playsuits. DD2's teacher spilled an entire bottle of Tippex all over dd's brand new school shoes once. I rubbed it off with nail varnish remover and she had slightly grey shoes for the rest of that term. Nobody died.

MrsApplepants Fri 02-Aug-13 16:05:43

I love white cotton shorts for DD, i use neat bleach on any stains, love watching them disappear. Easy peasy

Dahlen Fri 02-Aug-13 16:05:50

YANBU to be pissed off that new clothes are ruined because it costs money to buy more, but you know that YABU to be pissed off at your parents for letting it happen and for sending white shorts on a camping trip in the first place. wink

I have very outdoorsy-type children, who ruin everything they ever wear. I now have one or two best/party outfits and the rest is cheap stuff that they can stain/scuff, etc. I rarely buy shorts because the UK hardly ever gets that warm. Instead, I keep last years's old/too-short trousers with adjustable waists and cut them off for knocking-about-in-type short.

Ragwort Fri 02-Aug-13 16:06:27

Seriously D0oin - you must be mad to send inappropriate, or even 'special' clothing with your children for a free holiday, and expect people to follow your instructions about when and how they wear the outfits. Just get a few bits and pieces from a charity shop and let the children enjoy themselves.

SmiteYouWithThunderbolts Fri 02-Aug-13 16:07:11


It's not as though they haven't tried to clean them. It sounds like your parents have gone to considerable lengths to make good the damage.

Get some perspective and don't ever do anything so daft as sending kids camping with white shorts again.

EndoplasmicReticulum Fri 02-Aug-13 16:07:15

Having read the bit about "cerise play suits for the pub disco" I have come to the conclusion we have very different ideas about dressing children.

Although I do have boys, they probably wouldn't go for a cerise play suit.

badguider Fri 02-Aug-13 16:07:52

I think you were crazy to even buy these kind of light coloured clothes for your kids in the first place, but even more crazy to send them away on a CAMPING holiday!

Nobody soaks laundry on a camping holiday...

Am confused about the washing of the cerise playsuits though... and your sister's involvement? why is your sister doing your family's washing? confused

EvieanneVolvic Fri 02-Aug-13 16:08:00

Okay I know you're a regular so I am assuming this is not a wind up and I will just say this

I will have to say something if I cannot save the play suits I'm afraid.

No you won't! You may CHOOSE to say something but that's not the same thing. The only thing you HAVE to say is DP you are brilliant and Evieanne wants to share you

thebody Fri 02-Aug-13 16:08:36

Jesus you sound like one spoilt little madam op.

Scruffey Fri 02-Aug-13 16:08:44

White shorts will not come back unscathed from a camping holiday. They can still be worn stained, I'd just wear them stained.

I think white clothes should be illegal anyway grin

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 16:09:50

I was being a bit tongue in cheek about the shorts, I was peeved that I'm now going to have to go and try and find new shorts somehow and might have mentioned it jokingly to my parents, but no, the play suits I am genuinely really annoyed about.

I won't ask for them to be replaced of course, but I will point out that they are now ruined and were expensive.

I always wash dark colors separately particularly if they are new.

5318008 Fri 02-Aug-13 16:11:25

Ahh just clocked OPs name, I am out.

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 16:11:44

My sister lives near where they were camping, so went home half way through to do some washing.

They went to visit my sister.

DidoTheDodo Fri 02-Aug-13 16:12:09

Special shorts for going to the pub????

Crinkle77 Fri 02-Aug-13 16:12:57

yabu. You knew they were going camping and would probably get mucky. You should have sent them in clothes that did not matter if they got them dirty.

ImNotBloody14 Fri 02-Aug-13 16:13:19

Why do you need to buy new shorts? Do your dc only have one pair? They dont need brand new clothes for eating out on holidays. They really dont.

OrmirianResurgam Fri 02-Aug-13 16:13:52


Sorry. ha ha ha ha!

<wipes tears of mirth>

Ha ha ha ...

white short.... ha ha ho ho.....

<happy sigh>

You dipstick! <meant in an affectionate ruffle the top of OP's head sort of way>

<walks away quietly chuckling>

Tuppenceinred Fri 02-Aug-13 16:14:30

Dye the shorts. Who in their right mind buys white shorts for kids on holiday? grin

DidoTheDodo Fri 02-Aug-13 16:15:45

Oh, you're Andy Murray's mum and he's been getting all sweaty at Wimbledon.

lisad123everybodydancenow Fri 02-Aug-13 16:18:26

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Oblomov Fri 02-Aug-13 16:18:59

First white shorts. Then cerise playsuits. grin
You are one of those people who just can't see the bigger picture. i.e that your parents took your kids on holiday for a week camping.
God I wish I had someone, ANYONE to take my kids, for more than a few hours, at a playscheme, for example.

Op, you are one of those people to whom, my life is so very different, that I can not relate to you alt all.
I find you picky, ungrateful and narrow minded. On this particular issue, at least.

Icelollycraving Fri 02-Aug-13 16:19:32

Although Yabu,I sympathise. Ds wears white t shirts smile

muddymarvellousdarling Fri 02-Aug-13 16:19:41


White shorts & DC don't mix.

When my DC go to their GPs I pack old/primark clothes as I know they will end up stained or don't come back at all.

You should be glad your DC had a great holiday.

I did also learn the hard way and sent DD with an expensive dress and it came back with holes in

OutragedFromLeeds Fri 02-Aug-13 16:19:50

A few friendly tips;

1. Don't buy white clothes.
2. Don't buy clothes for DC's that are so expensive you are going to be upset if they get ruined.
3. Camping holidays are not the place for new clothes.
4. DC's do not need new/expensive clothes to attend a disco/pub. They're kids no-one, should be judging them on what they're wearing.

deste Fri 02-Aug-13 16:20:38

For the white shorts put them on the line on a sunny day and spray on spray bleach, I guarantee the stains will come out of them. The pink pair, buy new ones. I won't tell you how unreasonable you are being because you probably know by now.

Ragwort Fri 02-Aug-13 16:20:50

I've never understood why children (or anyone for that matter) needs 'new' clothes for holidays - it's just buying into the materialistic attitude of always needing 'new' stuff.

Its a blessing in disguise - God saw fit to ruin not only one pair of white and pink shorts but 2 to save the poor kids from looking all matchy matchy!!!


Fallout1977 Fri 02-Aug-13 16:22:46

Oh well we live and learn.

AlistairSim Fri 02-Aug-13 16:23:49

Can we re-focus, please?

I really need to know why the guinea pigs have their own towel.
[In my head, it's because they go swimming. They have little hats and arm bands too]

I thought the g pigs had been in the paddling pool, maybe - with tiny little buckets and some bubbles.

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 16:26:19

They needed new clothes because they've grown, of course. Children tend to do that from time to time hmm

The poor kids pick their own clothes and choose to be matchy matchy.

They will need more shorts because I only bought 2 pairs, now they only have one left. If they were only a little bit stained I wouldn't be bothered but they are very, very, very stained, the whole of the back of dd2's are literally black.

theoriginalandbestrookie Fri 02-Aug-13 16:26:23

You "say" away if you feel you have to and watch your DCs free two week holiday with their doting GPs fade into the mist.

Children should be able to play in all their clothes and when they get dirty, they get washed. I'd just be delighted they were out in the fresh air getting muddy rather than stuck inside in front of a screen.

Tabby1963 Fri 02-Aug-13 16:26:46

My parents live hundreds of miles away, they have never even babysat for my two let alone took them away anywhere. You are lucky!

If your parents take the kids away camping again, visit some charity shops and get cheap clothes suitable for camping (even white, it doesn't matter). That way everyone benefits; the charity; you; kids; grandparents. What's not to like?

rockybalboa Fri 02-Aug-13 16:27:58

White shorts?!?!? Are you MAD?!?

imnotmymum Fri 02-Aug-13 16:29:14

So what has happened to the playsuit exactly? Dark colours together? Wow I am a bad housekeeper. Strict instructions !! ha ha

rockybalboa Fri 02-Aug-13 16:30:09

I love the idea that your kids have designated shorts "for going to the pub on summer evenings". How on earth would you expect your parents to have figured out that bizarre rule? Is there a reason why kids can't go to the pub on summer evenings in dark denim shorts?!

ImNotBloody14 Fri 02-Aug-13 16:31:44

Ok so go to asda/ charity shop etc and pick up a two pack each of shorts for them to either keep as good for eating out or wear for play on holiday and keep the pair they have that arent white for good- this doesnt have to cost a lot of money to fix. Its not an issue really.

2468BONJOVI Fri 02-Aug-13 16:31:54

I have never, ever, ever, ever ever ever ever wanted to say this on mn before. But now I really want to say:

Is that all you have to worry about?

Anyway, the white shorts: the waitrose stain remover powder is very good. sook in that, then hot wash with bio washing powder and another scoop, then white shorts on the line to bleach. If there are still stains and you think they are oil, use swarfega on the dry fabric and wash again

the (ahem) Cerise Play Suits (snigger) - I think there is a powder that takes dye out specifically for colour transfer in the wash?

Sirzy Fri 02-Aug-13 16:32:51

You sent clothes with instructions how and when they should be worn? Seriously?

You sound like the type of parent who insists children look immaculate and then stop them doing things out of fear they will get messy! Madness!

StayAwayFromTheEdge Fri 02-Aug-13 16:33:08

White Shorts and Camping grin[grin}grin[grin}gringrin

Seriously what were you thinking? Of course the clothes were stained - they were living in a tent!

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 16:33:40

The play suits both have splotchy purple/indigo marks all over them.

The shorts were clearly a 'dressy' outfit for evenings, not for playing in the park in.

lljkk Fri 02-Aug-13 16:33:42

Lot of fuss for 2 pairs of shorts (I think it's just 2?). What did they cost to buy new?

2468BONJOVI Fri 02-Aug-13 16:34:08

Next time your daughters go away without you, you will have to send a proper lady's maid. this problem arose because you were trying to stint on untrained staff. If you had sent their usual gel, she would have administered their clothes properly and would have laid out their "going to the pub in summer evenings" shorts on the bed at 8pm, and removed them when they came back. She would also have hand washed their "cerise play suits"

I know the OP is a regular, and generally a reasonable poster, but I have the absolute rage over this! 14yrs, and all I've had is two school trips and a weekend my brother had them last year. 'I'm very grateful but...' is not nearly enough of an acknowledgement of how bloody lucky you are to have the support of family like this.

StayAwayFromTheEdge Fri 02-Aug-13 16:34:54

Smiley fail grin

We camp every year - dark clothes that we don't mind getting ruined. If it isn't too hot the children are permanently in waterproof trousers to protect what is underneath.

Sirzy Fri 02-Aug-13 16:35:05

Do people really get dressed up in the evenings when camping?

jacksgrannie Fri 02-Aug-13 16:35:54

Grandma's perspective here. Be very very careful OP. You are coming across as very spoilt and ungrateful. For goodness sake, the children can still wear the clothes can't they? Are you going to some chic French hotel inhabited by the Beckhams and they need to fit in? I pity your poor parents (probably terrified you are going to "say something"). Totally your own fault for sending them camping with inappropriate clothes.

StayAwayFromTheEdge Fri 02-Aug-13 16:36:22

You do not need dressy clothes on a campsite - Did your parents ever take you camping? With the best will in the world your clothes get dirty.

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 16:36:27

I assumed so Sirzy, but I've never been camping. I always have to stay home to look after the aforementioned aggressive dog and exotic birds.

theoriginalandbestrookie Fri 02-Aug-13 16:37:08

The only time I have been camping I ended up wearing the same clothes for the 3 nights we were there. I felt so permanently dirty despite showering, that it seemed a waste to bother changing.

Perhaps my trip would have been enhanced with a special outfit for the campsite disco, who knows.

blueballoon79 Fri 02-Aug-13 16:37:15


I'm a single mum to two DC's both with a disability and so far this summer I'm incredibly grateful to my parents for babysitting for me for 2 nights.

That is all, 2 nights and I'm thankful they did it because I got a much needed break and let's face it, they didn't have to bother at all!

If I'd packed two pairs of unsuitable coloured shorts which had both got ruined I would think it well worth the cost of two nights break!

Your parents have taken your children away for two whole weeks and paid for them and all you can do is whine and moan about two pairs of shorts!

You sound unbelievably spoilt and ungrateful. Awful.

cansu Fri 02-Aug-13 16:37:28

If you sent really expensive clothes then its kind of your fault. If they are cheapish clothes then balanced against the fact that your kids have had a free holiday and you have had two weeks rest from looking after them then this is very good value. Tbh if someone offered to take care of my ds for two weeks for free and all it cost me was a few new clothes I wold be ecstatic. To enable you to get a bit of perspective for my ds who is severely disabled to have a holiday of seven days costs 2500 pounds of which I have had to pay 1000 pounds.

MrsDeVere Fri 02-Aug-13 16:38:55

They won't ever be the same again.
If you've used laundry bleach already and washed them twice, you've had yer lot.
The stain is set.

If you dye them it will be patchy and some dyes cost more than a pair of shorts.

Deep breaths, move on smile

I haven't had respite for 10 years. If I could get it fir shorts I would craft em myself out of finest unicorn fur.

But I do get 'the rage' about stuf like this myself. I hate myself for it but I can't help it.

ProphetOfDoom Fri 02-Aug-13 16:39:00

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 16:40:15

Will get some Shout. I don't think we have a Sainsbury's but I am sure my mum works near one, I'll ask her to call in and get me some.

lljkk Fri 02-Aug-13 16:42:16

I think Doonme is getting unfair flack (but then, you should have known better & posted your vent in Chat not AIBU).

Come on Doonme, tell us how much in total did you pay for the ruined items?
Even if it was 30p each, if I liked them, I'd be peeved about them all being ruined.

How old are the children, too?

oscarwilde Fri 02-Aug-13 16:42:18

Have you got any Napisan lurking in the back of the cleaning cupboard? Might salvage the pink shorts.

YABU and you know it, however I can appreciate your irritation at the ruined clothes and people not using their heads to pick something appropriate for the venue/occasion.

The playsuits ? Have they got stains from the denim? Sending clothes that have not been washed before/run in the wash/need special washing - lesson learned I think.

Are you going overseas for your holiday? You'll be able to buy summer clothes there if everywhere in the UK is sold out.

fromparistoberlin Fri 02-Aug-13 16:42:24


i actually think you are, especially with that username!!!!!

'Hi mum. I know you've already taken the kids off my hands for a fortnight and tried to wash their clothes etc, but I'm too busy cursing you on an online thread to go to Sainsbury's, so please will you go for me, whilst I carry on moaning about you for a while. Oh, perhaps you could pick up some white shorts and several expensive cerise playsuits whilst you're there, too?'

Sorry OP - I know that you are usually completely sane on here, but this thread is so hard to take seriously.

ProphetOfDoom Fri 02-Aug-13 16:42:59

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

OutragedFromLeeds Fri 02-Aug-13 16:43:43

I think the ruining of the cerise play suits is almost certainly a blessing in disguise. In much the same way it was if your parents wouldn't buy you a shell suit in the early 90s....

Tuppenceinred Fri 02-Aug-13 16:43:46

You're being really silly op. Just go to Primark, Matalan or EBay and get some cheap shorts. Or, just dye the stained white ones a dark more sensible colour. As for the playsuits... get over it, honestly.
If you moan about any of this, or make passive-aggressive "jokey" comments to anyone you're being an ungrateful mare.
I think your children have had a great time, playing happily without you hovering over them worrying about special and expensive outfits being worn at the wrong time or getting dirty. Next time buy cheaper and chill.

jacks365 Fri 02-Aug-13 16:43:57

Rewash in the machine but instead of using fabric softner use lemon juice instead then dry in sunlight. I can't promise but I find it effective for most stains. I've camped with the dc for years and they literally lived in skorts from tammy. I never bother with posher clothes.

dexter73 Fri 02-Aug-13 16:44:38

I will have to say something if I cannot save the play suits I'm afraid.
I'm voting this for MN quote of the week grin!!
Thanks for this thread - it has really made me laugh!

Ragwort Fri 02-Aug-13 16:44:51

Just how much did these shorts cost in the first place, you must have spent a fortune on stain removers so far? hmm

Don't ask your mum to get the stain remover - that's really rubbing salt into the wound (pun intended grin).

CBA to read whole thread, but they are ruined for best - give the kids some fabric pens and let them colour them on a rainy day smile Kills 2 birds - kids have fun and the shorts look colourful smile

You had 2 weeks on your own. WOW - my DM is begrudgingly looking after DS for 1 day next week, so I can work. YADBU.

FadedSapphire Fri 02-Aug-13 16:45:23

How about hot washing the cerise play suits with the white shorts.
Hey presto- nice pink shorts.
Problem solved.

UnexpectedStepmum Fri 02-Aug-13 16:45:56

DH and I have no sane family in this country and have been out alone together a total of five times since DD1 (3 and a half) was born. We are unlikely to have two weeks away from DCs for at least fifteen years.

If you do have to say something to your generous parents, and they somehow interpret that as spoiled and ungrateful, my two affectionate, practically dressed children would love some surrogate grandparents. They could wreck as many of their clothes as they want it's all hand me downs or eBay buys anyway

Shutupanddrive Fri 02-Aug-13 16:46:14

Are you serious? shock
You can't be

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 16:46:26

I don't remember exactly how much they were, but they were from Tesco so I imagine they were around a tenner and yes, I really liked them.

Yes, the playsuits have got stains from the denim. I was not expecting them to wash anything at all. They told me they had no access to washing machines, but then my sister decided to go home for a night to do some washing.

If I'd known they were going to do washing I'd not have sent the playsuits at all, they are the kind of thing I wouldn't trust my mum to wash in a million years. She bleaches or boils everything, she ruined countless pairs of jeans when I lived there despite me begging her to let me do my own washing.

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 16:47:40

I wasn't going to ask her to pay for the stain remover, I was gonna give her the money for it.

2468BONJOVI Fri 02-Aug-13 16:47:59

OP, you are now sending your mum to get the stain remover?
and your sister was doing the washing?
the jokes about the lady's maid seem a bit more on point now

There is such a divide between those who have people to help them and those who don't. I used to think people who moaned about it should grow up, well I still think it is not really on to moan about it. but seriously people who don't have to pick up their own shopping and have time to prioritise animals don't have any bloody thing to complain about

And you don't need to throw the shorts away, fgs. If you have learnt anything it is that your daughters need clothes that can be worn for mucky play

That isn't the point.

2468BONJOVI Fri 02-Aug-13 16:49:57

but.... if the cerise play suits were not for playing in.... why are they called that? why are they not called disco suits?

magimedi Fri 02-Aug-13 16:50:04


You are lucky enough to have a Mum who obviously loves her GCs & takes them on holiday for a week & you moan about a couple of supermarket pairs of shorts getting spoilt.

Grow up & count your blessings, I don't think I've ever read such an unreasonable post in AIBU ever.

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 16:53:27

I don't drive BonJovi and my works right near the nearest Sainsbury's which is in the next town to ours. That is why I was going to ask to her to call in when she walks past it to get to her car. She parks in Sainsbury's car park while she is at work.

And I don't know why they are called play suits, I guess you would have to ask River Island that one.

I did not ask my sister to wash any thing, I had no idea she was going to go home to do washing.

IloveJudgeJudy Fri 02-Aug-13 16:53:53

YABSoU. Your DC get taken away for 2 weeks at no expense to you and you're moaning about a couple of bits of clothing? I cannot believe this is for real, apart from you've been on this board for a long time.

You knew your DC were going camping, not to a 4-star resort on holiday. You should have sent them with clothes you didn't mind getting dirty if you're so precious about them. You really can't say anything about the playsuits, really.

Put a colour catcher in the wash with them. Don't let them get dry after you've washed them. That quite often helps.

Sirzy Fri 02-Aug-13 16:55:03

So you are upset because they didnt clean one thing and they did clean another. They can't win can they!

LingDiLong Fri 02-Aug-13 16:56:36

See, you say the shorts were 'obviously' for evening wear but it wouldn't be obvious to our parent's generation. 'Posh' clothes would have been dresses for girls not shorts.

Seriously, your parents and sister didn't do anything that terrible. Kids clothes do get ruined quickly unfortunately. And I think you were unlucky with the colours running, I do umpteen washes a week and I always lump all coloured stuff in together. They weren't outrageously careless, really they weren't. It's not like your parents handed them a tin of emulsion or bleach and let them play with it.

For future reference, 'evening wear' on a campsite is pretty much the same as day wear - old, muddy, creased clothes sported by kids who haven't had their hair dressed in a couple of days. Kids tend to run feral when camping.

ProphetOfDoom Fri 02-Aug-13 16:56:39

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

OnTheNingNangNong Fri 02-Aug-13 16:59:03

I would turn down the next invitation your parents offer to take your children away. Goodness, what a load of fuss.

2468BONJOVI Fri 02-Aug-13 17:00:35

But that is still quite an imposition. If you ask someone to go into a sainsburys and pick up a particular thing, that is a good 20 minutes by the time they have found it and paid for it, or more. And their feet might hurt. I would struggle to ask dp to do this to be honest, let alone anyone else. I am not having a go, I just often wonder at how people live. Is this normal? Is this why I feel alone and depressed? [sob]

I am going to sit down and write a list of things to sort my life out

1. Get some people I can ask to do things, like buy things it would be inconvenient for me to get
2. Get some people who will take my children away for a lovely active holiday for 2 weeks
3. Get my children some matching white shorts and some matching cerise play suits
4. Have a second holiday planned (for them, my first) which is so smart that they need new white shorts and cerise play suits

mumeeee Fri 02-Aug-13 17:01:42

YABU white shorts wouof get dirty anywhere. Also why do they have to have different shorts to go to the pub in? I never used to change my DDs into different clothes for the evening.

maja00 Fri 02-Aug-13 17:06:11

Kids clothes are for kids to play in, surely? Especially on a camping holiday.

If I took some children camping and they came with supermarket clothes I would assume they were just every day clothes for playing in.

LingDiLong Fri 02-Aug-13 17:06:33

Bonjovi - are you for real? You wouldn't ask your partner to pop into a shop and get something for you?? What's that about?

sparkle12mar08 Fri 02-Aug-13 17:06:52

Seriously D0oin, let it go. Let It Go. Family support is invaluable and you would be cutting of your nose to spite your face it go go in heavy footed about this, especially in your situation.

2468BONJOVI Fri 02-Aug-13 17:09:47

Lingdilong - I could ask dp - I just wouldn't. I have done when I was really scratching my head about something and he does do it, but it doesn't come easily to me

Both of us have very little spare time. If I asked him to do it, it would be his lunchbreak, which is his only time. I would ask him to to do this only if I couldn't see another way

3littlefrogs Fri 02-Aug-13 17:10:37

My DC only ever went on camping trips with clothes bought in charity shops and at car boot sales.

When they came home the clothes were all binned.

I thought everyone did that.

lljkk Fri 02-Aug-13 17:11:06

If it's the worst thing that happens all year you'll be thanking your lucky stars.
Lessons learned and all that.

HappyMummyOfOne Fri 02-Aug-13 17:12:19

YABVU, your parents did a lovely thing and you've "jokingly" mentioned the ruined shorts. Is that all you really have to worry about? Never mind a huge thank you to them and arranging a thank you etc.

I never understand play clothes and best, children get dirty and stained. If you dont want it to happen dont buy clothes in light colours. DS wears whatever he likes as long as suitable for the weather. If it gets stained, so be it. He will outgrow it anyway so it doesnt have to last a lifetime.

Most adults would struggle to keep white shorts or trousers clean never mind children.

HerculePoirotsTache Fri 02-Aug-13 17:13:42

YABU. Children and pale coloured shorts do not mix. There are worse things to worry about and you are incredibly lucky that your DParents took them on a fun holiday.

Rooners Fri 02-Aug-13 17:14:40

OP, with all due respect you are buying the wrong things with the wrong attitude. The expectation of controlling what and when your kids wear when they are not actually with you is nuts to start with.

Having some kind of design on what will be worn with what, and for which precise activity, is equally bonkers.

I may be thinking differently due to having boys, BUT I buy things with the complete expectation that they will get worn for goodness knows what (at present it is 'coal mining' in the back garden - ds1 has dug an actual trench) and with whatever is to hand, for whatever activity is partaken in on any given day.

But we don't do posh or pubs or proper holidays really...I don't 'dress them up' for anyone or anything, though they look smart when they're meeting a relative or something like that.

I just fail to understand the logic in your decisions re clothes. They're not Sindy dolls, they are children and they will wear the wrong stuff and they will get dirty whatever they are doing.

Your folks have done them a massive service in taking them on hols
I think you need to write this off as literally a small price to pay.

ComposHat Fri 02-Aug-13 17:20:47

Given your petulant display, it is highly unlikely your parents will be taking your kids camping anytime soon, can they take me instead? I really don't mind how many pairs of shorts get knackered either.
Also I really want a disco suit! bit like Travolta's in Saturday Night Fever!

MardyBra Fri 02-Aug-13 17:22:03

I can't work out if this thread is a parody or not. grin

SoupDragon Fri 02-Aug-13 17:26:28

MN: Yes!
OP: No I'm not!

[happy sigh]

Get some colour run remover for the play suits.

Bleach the shorts - even if they end up plain white it's no loss.

Have a glass or two of wine.

FannyMcNally Fri 02-Aug-13 17:28:19

Haha good one op! I nearly believed this thread until the play suits fiasco grin

MardyBra Fri 02-Aug-13 17:35:21

Maybe it's a reverse...

EuphemiaLennox Fri 02-Aug-13 17:44:05

My kids have going out clothes and clothes for scruffs.

If theyre doing something messy outdoors I don't let them wear the 'good' clothes. This needs policing by me as the kids seem totally oblivious to the distinction between the types of clothes and will just wear whatever they fancy. (incidental DH is also oblivious to the distinction)

BUT when they go to stay with my parents, I totally accept that I will have no control over What so ever what they wear and when and that I can't expect my parents to police this in the way I would because
1) they don't know 'the system'
2) 'the system' actually only exists in my head and neither the kids or my parents can read my mind
3)my parents will let the kids choose whatever they want to wear as they just like them to be happy and don't give a toss.

So they wear embarrassing scruffed clothes to restaurants and lovely shirts to walk the dogs. Some things have been ruined.

My mother however is very good and always makes a good attempt to wash and rescue all clothes, but then she's not camping.

When things gets ruined my mum tells me and I go 'oh dear' and roll my eyes at ds2 who rolls his eyes back at me.

YABVVVU not too mention ungrateful and lacking in perspective.

Is this thread helping you see that at all??

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 17:49:49

My children are allowed to get dirty, but if the shorts had gotten that dirty while I'd been there I'd have soaked them in a bucket full of hot water and vanish before the stain dried.

The play suits have washed okay. You can still see splodges if you look really hard for them but I'm fine with that.

The shorts are now in the washer with actual bleach, the jeans that were there with them are not my children's. I'd thought they were the jeans MIL bought dd2 for her birthday but they're not they belong to my neice. My sister has given me permission to bleach them, since I can't make them any worse.

The mud/oil is off a wet slide, they landed in that mulchy wood stuff when it was wet. They were at the pub when it happened. They have slides and mud at the pub. I didn't know this, I've never been. If they go again they won't take any nice clothes for an evening, they'll only take play clothes.

We do have a Sainsbury's across the other side of town. My mum is taking me on Sunday, if the stains don't come out, so long as I buy them some parrot food while we're there because they are running out. That's fine.

We've also arranged to go to a charity dog show together so that my dog can whoop their dog's butt in the cutest dog show, so I think they still love me even if I am slightly controlling over what my kids wear.

Soupy I said right at the start that I was aware I was BU but that does not mean I can't be annoyed that their new clothes were ruined. I haven't said I expect or would even ask for them to be replaced. I don't even think I've blamed my parents. I am just pissed off that the shorts are ruined.

EuphemiaLennox Fri 02-Aug-13 18:41:51

Er, I think you quite clearly did blame your parents and were considering saying something.

EuphemiaLennox Fri 02-Aug-13 18:42:12

Er, I think you quite clearly did blame your parents and were considering saying something.

FannyMcNally Fri 02-Aug-13 18:42:25


FannyMcNally Fri 02-Aug-13 18:43:31

I was going to post something but then the mention of the parrot threw me...

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 18:45:56

The parrot is evil. He goes in moods with me and needs bribing into not attacking me with grapes and bananas when I look after him.

Anyway, I have a puppy now. I don't care about shorts anymore. I've a lovely, cuddly puppy to console me grin

You bribe him with grapes and bananas, or he attacks you with grapes and bananas? smile

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 18:49:52

I bribe him with fruit and he nicked my peanut butter on toast when I went round there for my breakfast before the gym so he wasn't on his own too long, the evil, toast napping fecker grin

cq Fri 02-Aug-13 18:50:35

I know just how you feel, OP.

Years ago my DD pestered and pestered and pestered for this lovely (expensive) white t-shirt while on holiday. Gave in to pester power which I NEVER normally do.

Went to the pub for lunch and she promptly got ketchup all down it.

I can still remember the feelings of rage. It was completely unreasonable, and I was mostly mad at myself for buying her the damned thing. Still doesn't help the rage.

Have a wine

I did make her carry on wearing the cursed thing until she grew out of it evil witch - but then I felt like a crap mother for dressing her in stained clothes.

So yes, YABU, and you know it, but that doesn't stop the feeling, I know.

ouryve Fri 02-Aug-13 18:52:08

Why on earth did you buy white shorts? What are they supposed to do in them? Sit still and look pretty?

xylem8 Fri 02-Aug-13 18:54:04

Op have you ever been camping?Soaking stains isn't really something you can do that easily!
keep damping them down and hanging them in the sun.The sun bleaches anything

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 18:56:24

No, I've never been camping. I said that earlier, my parents can only go away when I am available to mind all the exotic birds and be on standy-by in case the aggressive Whippet gets booted out of the kennels for biting people, so I never get to go camping with them.

Capitola Fri 02-Aug-13 18:57:38

I can't imagine caring that much over shorts. Just let them wear them, even if they're not blindingly white.

soverylucky Fri 02-Aug-13 19:03:37

Does anyone thing YANBU? Camping = cheap, old clothes - even to the disco if need be.

atlassneezed Fri 02-Aug-13 19:04:31

Just leave them in a bucket of water with a little bleach on them for half an hour and then do a hot wash (or add some bleach straight to the really bad stains). That always gets my kids white, stained polo shirts looking completely white again (sorry for sounding like an advert!). I have done this loads of times to really dirty, deep stains and it never fails to lift them.

Rooners Fri 02-Aug-13 19:06:20

I understand that you're upset and yes I probably would be too...I get annoyed with my sister, my parents, in fact anyone who cares for my children when I am not there.

However I have to rein it in as then my kids would never have any fun, or experiences apart from the ones I do with them

I think it is a control issue and I do get it but I think you have to use perspective and give up a bit of the control when you hand them over, and kind of get over it a bit. smile Otherwise you'd be miserable.

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 19:06:34

They're in the washer on 60deg with bleach now. The puppy is sitting on the printer hmm Maybe two cat sized dogs won't be such fun after all.

LittleBearPad Fri 02-Aug-13 19:10:27

Just assume that camping means getting dirty so old clothes from now on.

Turquoisehat Fri 02-Aug-13 19:20:43

Am i the only one shaking my head here? 2 pairs of Tesco shorts ruined, but your kids had a great time playing and bonding with their grandparents for 2 weeks.

Even by my standards (and I admit to being controlling) you sound like very hard work.

But I feel like I need to ask - Is laundry your hobby?

lljkk Fri 02-Aug-13 20:18:34

I think the shorts were stained & the playsuits were ruined by being washed with something that ran colours. OP probably spent around £30 on clothes that barely got worn.

That is why I scrounge kids clothes from jumble sales & charity shops.

lljkk Fri 02-Aug-13 20:19:38

Xpost, I don't think 60 degrees is good idea, you'll just be baking the stains in. I would have tried napisan myself.

StayAwayFromTheEdge Fri 02-Aug-13 20:21:17

Hot water and Vanish are not readily avaable on a campsite. I expected the shorts to be Boden or Joules at the very least, but this degree of anxiety over a ten pound pair of Tesco shorts is mystery to me. Buy some new ones out of the money you have saved by not feeding them for two weeks.

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 20:23:55

They've sold out or I would.

I didn't know about baking in stains? sad I've just put them on another hot wash because the first one didn't work.

See this is why I hate stains, I don't know how to deal with them. What's napisan? Will it work on baked in slide mulch?

The puppy is trying to photocopy herself now. I need to clean up but she appears to be glued to my leg grin

piratecat Fri 02-Aug-13 20:39:38

to be honest the amount you are spending on detergent, leccy, sweat and washing machine wear and tear, you'd be better off binning them and buying a couple pairs off ebay.

bit crazy, all this angst.

lljkk Fri 02-Aug-13 20:46:55

Piratecat has a point.
You've baked the stains in by now, honestly, they're rags. Give your puppy a hug & forget all this.
Puppy's annual jabs will cost way more than value of the ruined clothes, anyway.

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 20:50:45

She's not my puppy yet so I'll only be paying for the nice things like fancy collars the rescue can vaccinate her grin

I don't want any old shorts I want those shorts and they've sold out. I liked those shorts.

There must be a way to get the stains out? Or fade them enough that they're a greyish hardly noticeable color and not jet black?

FunLovinBunster Fri 02-Aug-13 20:54:30

OP you need to get a life.
Certifiable over reaction.

imnotmymum Fri 02-Aug-13 21:09:20

I like those shorts...seriously how do shorts differ they are eehhmm

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 21:11:44

They had a pink pattern that matched the matching t-shirt.

Plain pink shorts would match I guess, but it won't be the same.

babybearsmummy Fri 02-Aug-13 21:11:49

Wash them and stick them on the line in full view of the sun... The sun bleaches the stains right out!

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 21:13:24

We don't have a washing line and our yard hardly gets any sun.

TheAccidentalExhibitionist Fri 02-Aug-13 21:17:13

Have one of these [buscuit]

jacks365 Fri 02-Aug-13 21:18:12

Stick them on a windowsill that gets full sunlight instead then its what I do with stains in winter. However I wonder if this could be creosote from the wood in which case nothing will work sorry.

TheAccidentalExhibitionist Fri 02-Aug-13 21:18:12

Bollocks, meant biscuit grin

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 21:21:18

A window might work. I will soak them overnight in vanish and then I'll leave them to dry in the window.

Would playground wood chippings have creosote on?

I'm dieting Accidental and don't much like biscuits anyway but the puppy will have some.

LegArmpits Fri 02-Aug-13 21:21:32

Jesus Christ OP.

Turniptwirl Fri 02-Aug-13 21:26:03

White shorts for kids are always a bad idea

White shorts for a camping holiday when you aren't there to sort them out is a really really really bad idea!

Yabvu considering it was a free holiday for your kids!

wonderingsoul Fri 02-Aug-13 21:32:04

I've tried really hard to muster up some sympathy for you...

Just can't do it.

Your kids had two weeks away having fun with grandparents.

You had two weeks of no real child responsibilities.

All This OVER two outfits.

Get over it and stop being so bloody spoilt.

Buy some new ones from eBay if you can't find Anakin store.. I'm sure your be able to use your holiday to get over this terrible crime.

O... and it's your fault for sending white clothes and fancy clothes to a campsite.

ScrambledSmegs Fri 02-Aug-13 21:53:22

You need Biotex.

DH cycles to work. He has no mud guard. Most of his pairs of white pants have this horrific grey mud stain all over them where the dirty water has soaked through his clothes - yes, it really was general grime, nothing else! Nothing I did could get it out until I soaked them in Biotex for about 24 hours.

I swear I could see the grime coming out. It was amazing, and a little bit gross.

YABU about the white shorts/camping with GPs thing though. My DM can't tell the difference between DD1's day clothes and night clothes, to the extent that I have some wonderful photos of DD1 and her GPs at the Olympics last year, wearing her pyjamas confused Your kids had a lovely time, you had a break. That's good enough, yes?

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 21:55:26

Biotex? Will I get this in Tesco or will it need ordering from Amazon?

The kids are home, they've nicked my puppy angry

exoticfruits Fri 02-Aug-13 22:03:12

I feel sorry for children who have to watch their clothes. Unless they are at a wedding or similar they need clothes they can roll around in, climb trees etc. For camping I would either get them really cheap or second hand and never, never white!

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 22:05:01

They don't have to watch their clothes because I don't let them go down wet slide in white shorts, I'd have sent them back to the tent to get changed.

ScrambledSmegs Fri 02-Aug-13 22:13:34

Er, not sure. I got it at the cornershop. It looks like this.

Toohottohandle Fri 02-Aug-13 22:16:47

White shorts shock
Never let alone camping!
I stay clear from white anything childrens clothing

exoticfruits Fri 02-Aug-13 22:17:06

I can't see why they need white shorts-a bit useless if they can't do anything except look nice in them!

Toohottohandle Fri 02-Aug-13 22:17:50

Also i wouldnt of sent my kids away with someone else with brand new clothes

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 22:19:23

Thanks Scrambled. I've just ordered some on Amazon but will check Tesco too.

exoticfruits Fri 02-Aug-13 22:19:51

If you go camping you need really old clothes-there isn't going to be any occasion on it where you need to look smart. If you haven't got old then get some second hand ones.

MrsKeithRichards Fri 02-Aug-13 22:20:45

You liked the shorts, your kids, quite rightly, probably couldn't care less

exoticfruits Fri 02-Aug-13 22:20:50

Perhaps the grandparents will get some second hand and never have to put them in the clothes they bring with them-problem solved.

nancy75 Fri 02-Aug-13 22:25:31

Can't understand the shock at buying kids white clothes, don't any of you lot own a washing machine?

Op you need fairy liquid ( the stuff you use to wash dishes) and a nail brush. Put the fairy straight on the stains, give it a scrub, soak and then wash in the machine.

Sirzy Fri 02-Aug-13 22:28:04

I have no problem with children wearing white clothes. Sending them on a camping trip and then complaining when they get dirty is ridiculous though!

StayAwayFromTheEdge Fri 02-Aug-13 22:28:51

They are on a campsite - they get dirty, they need to wear clothes that are allowed to get dirty all the time. The clothes should never have been there in the first place.

Pinupgirl Fri 02-Aug-13 22:46:53

I dont know why posters are surprised by op's attitude-she has form for going la la la and not listening-see the numerous threads about the dp. 10 quid shorts? Lol-they were'nt even that expensive.

magimedi Fri 02-Aug-13 22:48:44

No, I've never been camping. I said that earlier, my parents can only go away when I am available to mind all the exotic birds and be on standy-by in case the aggressive Whippet gets booted out of the kennels for biting people, so I never get to go camping with them.

This is all about you - not the fact that your parents gave your DCs a great holiday.

I know I am going to get flamed or deleted for this but, Dooin, you are being so unreasonable & moaning about the small stuff & you seem to do so in every thread you start that I have totally run out of sympathy for you.

Get a grip/man/woman up & enjoy life a bit more.

Please stop being such a dedicated whinger about the things that don't matter.

ClartyCarol Fri 02-Aug-13 22:51:48

Bloody hell, I think it's been established that white shorts and muddy play areas don't mix. Stop bashing the OP.

Dooin - just to add to the array of cleaning suggestions I found the Ariel stain remover in a tall blue bottle to be good on ground in grass stains. I have found unfortunately that the black, oily type stains are virtually impossible to lift right out, but that Biotex sounds good. My dc are always filthy at the end of the day so may get some myself. Have found the sun bleaching generally only works properly with tomato stains. To the pp who said her dd ruined a white t shirt with ketchup - I would've got that out no bother wink.

beela Fri 02-Aug-13 23:06:13

hahahahhaha, is this real?

hahahaha, yes, yabu.

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 23:15:21

The white shorts were bought for pubs in Turkey, where the play areas are all lined in that bouncy rubber stuff. I assumed pubs on campsites would be like pubs abroad, clean with a kids disco that kids dress up for, which is why I sent them.

They also had no old clothes that fit them and I was working too many hours to go trailing around charity shops. I'm not sure where you all live but around here our charity shops are not that great and don't tend to have many kids clothes in.

I've never complained about them being given a free holiday. I have said several times that I don't expect and would never ask for my parents to replace the shorts or even pay to clean them.

I'm pissed off that clothes they've only worn once have been ruined. That, imo, is normal.

Also my parents have a generator and a shower tent thingy with a flushing toilet, they spent many hours telling me all about their shower tent thingy and generator, so being able to soak stained clothes seemed, to me, like something they'd have been able to do whilst camping, but I might be wrong, I've never been camping and I've never seen a tent with a shower or a toilet. They also took the caravan but again I've never been camping, we've only ever stayed in those massive caravans, so I don't know if the little tourer vans have sinks/showers but I'd assumed they do.

No-where have I said anything about being pissed off about their holiday, I said right from the start that I am very lucky to have such a close and supportive family. I also said that I knew I was BU, but I was still pissed off. Of course I am pissed off, they've worn them once and now I have to find time to go and buy new shorts because I only bought what we need and not a single stitch more, so they will need new shorts. The shorts are not slightly stained, the arse of them is jet black.

Magi, of course that paragraph was all about me, I was explaining why I'd never been camping with them, I'm not going to make it about my neighbour am I? confused

LittleBearPad Fri 02-Aug-13 23:21:37

Just order some new shorts on the Internet and move on. They'll turn up be early next week at the latest.

Why would a pub on/near a uk campsite be like a tourist bar in the Med? Are pubs near you like this?

OutragedFromLeeds Fri 02-Aug-13 23:22:25

Dye them black seems the obvious solution then. Or take them to a dirty pub and have them roll round in the woodchips so they're the same colour all over.

BellaVita Fri 02-Aug-13 23:24:12

If you have boiled those shorts they will look like limp rags now...

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 23:25:49

The pub on the only ever campsite I have been to was like that, yes. They had a kids games room and did kid's discos from 7pm - 9pm every weekend evening and every evening over the summer holidays. The kids all got dressed up for the discos.

They also had a laundry room, a shop that sold sachets of Vanish and showers and sinks in the caravans. I never looked in any of the tents, because that would have been rude and odd, so I don't know what equipment they had or did not have.

OutragedFromLeeds Fri 02-Aug-13 23:34:09

I'm still not sure why they need new shorts? They were bought for the express purpose of wearing in Turkish pubs, surely they could wear something else instead? What about the playsuits? Do they not have any other dress/skirt/trousers to wear instead? Do they have so few clothes that the loss of one pair of shorts means they have nothing to wear? Is there a strict shorts-only rule in Turkish pubs?

I'm so confused!

Mendi Fri 02-Aug-13 23:34:31

White shorts. For camping.

Regardless of your idea of "dressing up for evening", if the white shorts were especially precious, I'd say YABU for sending them. Certainly a massiveYABU to make a fuss about it.

But you know that.

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 02-Aug-13 23:52:00

Because I only bought the exact amount of clothes I'd need to only have to waste one day washing things.

They don't need new shorts. Washing up liquid has removed most of it. Thank you that poster. They're now soaking in bi carb to try and get rest out but they're only slight grey-ish now, so they can be worn.

Bogeyface Fri 02-Aug-13 23:55:44


Everyone knows that allowing children to play in white shorts is a recipe for disaster. Anyone knows that washing anything with new indigo jeans is a recipe for disaster.

And btw, I would never pack for my children going away with me thinking "oh, this will be a cheap week, I only have to write off £100 worth of clothes".

FFS, I have read some crap on here, but really....

Bogeyface Fri 02-Aug-13 23:58:42

And it wouldnt be quite so bad but if an MNer posted saying

"MIL is taking the kids away for a holiday and I told her not to worry about washing, she should just bin the kids clothes at the end of the holiday! After all, the clothes cost me far less than 2 weeks childcare. AIBU?" we all know what the response would be!

MidniteScribbler Sat 03-Aug-13 00:11:17

My DS will never go camping with his grandparents. He'll never even know them. They'll never babysit for him, never take him to a pub, never take him on two weeks holiday. And if they were alive, and he could do any of those things with them, I wouldn't want them to waste a single minute of that precious time by worrying about washing kids play clothes.

ItsNotATest Sat 03-Aug-13 00:34:32

Can we have a link to the cerise play suits?

<looks all innocent>

StayAwayFromTheEdge Sat 03-Aug-13 00:37:22

I realise when you have gone wrong - you should never camp anywhere where they have a pub on site!

Beastofburden Sat 03-Aug-13 00:39:02

People don't soak clothes on holiday, especially not grandparents who are busting a gut giving young kids a good time. If the kids were older you could say, I have packed you one smart outfit each in case you need it, don't ruin them. But if they are too young for that, too bad.

You can't control everything in life. You have now spent hours and money faffing around with various ways to clean these shorts. it will probably rain for the rest of the holidays now. Let it go.

SavoyCabbage Sat 03-Aug-13 00:46:11

You are placing far too high value on what your dds wear and look like.

I had tomato stains on a tablecloth that I couldn't get out with vanish, lemon juice of full on undiluted domestos, but they faded away to nothing in the sun.

paperclipsarebetterthanstaples Sat 03-Aug-13 00:53:14

You sound like my lovely but slightly cooky friend who has specific cinema outfits, stuff only to be worn to quiz nights, set clothes for lunch out...

Honestly, don't stress the small stuff.

Ham69 Sat 03-Aug-13 01:02:21

Is this a joke? Did your kid's have a lovely time? FFS, surely that's all that matters.

Swallowing Sat 03-Aug-13 01:02:26

So your children's clothes mean more to you than the fact that they had fun?
My children are always filthy, because they are having fun in puddles, mud, sand, paint, etc. I couldn't give a shit about whether they have brand new, sparkling pristine clothes, because they are happy (and very very dirty) I feel sorry for your kids. Don't say anything about how your family do the laundry. You are insane

bragmatic Sat 03-Aug-13 03:44:51

If I bought white shorts for my children, and sent them off to a pure white tiled room to dive into a swimming pool of bleach, they'd still find a way to stain them.

TotallyBursar Sat 03-Aug-13 03:58:34

Didn't you post about turning your mobile off because dd1 was using a borrowed phone to moan and disagree with what her grandparents wanted her to do? Sil's phone I think...

They dealt with 2 weeks of your instructions, on top of the clothes lists, a stroppy little madam and trying to give them a good time. I'm not surprised they didn't feel particularly inclined to find a way to soak the arse of some shorts - with all those more-than-basic laundry accoutrements you keep to hand behind the sanny- shorts one would assume you deemed suitable for camping, they even followed your evening wear instructions. Amazingly enough anywhere outside can be dirty.
So you end up having to be cross with your dc for wearing them outside of their bedroom or...yourself for all the reasons above.

Playsuits accidentally got stained when your family tried to do you yet another favour.

Even petsitting (with the dog in kennels) you come out very much on top in the arrangement.

Fakebook Sat 03-Aug-13 04:23:11

This has probably been said 200 times before but, white shorts for camping? Seriously?

nooka Sat 03-Aug-13 04:28:02

wtf are playsuits? Am I the only one that finds the idea of two little girls in perfect non play possible outfits slightly unsettling?

The OP's idea of camping seems pretty diametrically opposed to my experience, but then I don't really get the idea of camping near a pub anyway. Sounds more like going to a Butlins type holiday camp.

sashh Sat 03-Aug-13 06:07:56

bye some dye

exoticfruits Sat 03-Aug-13 06:22:23

Yes- just dye them a different colour.
I am not keen on camping anyway but I would want to be on a campsite well away from it- one with a kiddies disco sounds like hell!

Jan49 Sat 03-Aug-13 06:23:51

YABU You should be very grateful to the gps for taking your dc away for 2 weeks. Please don't say anything to them about the stained clothing.

I'm a bit puzzled about the importance of the shorts. You're talking about possibly losing one pair of shorts per child. Just how much difference could the loss of those make to the amount of clothing they have available to wear on your holiday with them? Were they each going to have one pair to wear for the entire holiday? confused

SpooMoo Sat 03-Aug-13 06:29:29

How old are your kids OP? Do they choose what to pack and what to wear? The outfits you describe sound like they are older.

BeaWheesht Sat 03-Aug-13 06:29:40

Wow. You don't know you're born OP.

exoticfruits Sat 03-Aug-13 06:35:05

You don't give ages, but a word of advice for the future- if they go on Cub/Brownie camp or a school residential do NOT send any good clothing- they will do the equivalent of wipe the floor with them!

exoticfruits Sat 03-Aug-13 06:35:57

And the leaders/teachers will not be the least bothered and it won't cross their mind to soak them.

Poppy4453 Sat 03-Aug-13 06:42:50

Who buys white? Silly choice of clothing.

WeAll Sat 03-Aug-13 06:52:10

Why is everyone so against white?
DS had some white trousers with an adjustable waist that lasted from when he was 2, rolled up, when he was 3, actual length, and now when he is 4, rolled up again as shorts. They've always washed fine.
He has just managed to stain them, after all that time, with something I can't get out. I am going to dye them black for next year!

WeAll Sat 03-Aug-13 06:55:13

I think the problem is as someone else mentioned, that you are buying your DDs clothes to look pretty in, in which their normal actions are limited.
Maybe buy more generally suitable clothes all round next year.

I feel sorry for them, being sent to change if somewhere looks too grubby. Learning to always hesitate before having fun in case they spoil clothes. It's a share really.

merrymouse Sat 03-Aug-13 07:11:52

Do children never spill drinks at these Turkish pub discos?

VBisme Sat 03-Aug-13 07:15:27

Yes YABU I hope you've thanked your parents for looking after your children for 2 weeks.
That's incredibly generous of them, they sound lovely.

ChinaCupsandSaucers Sat 03-Aug-13 07:29:52

You allow your DCs to choose their own clothes, then place restrictions on when they can wear them and expect other people to enforce them - oh, and you expect others to follow your clothes washing routines.

Are you my DSC mum?

merrymouse Sat 03-Aug-13 07:52:13

Anyway, I suggest sticking to your guns and upping the ante next time by sending white gloves.

YABVU to be "fucking annoyed" - you need a new perspective on life !
And to appreciate your parents taking your DC on holiday for 2 weeks !!

mathanxiety Sat 03-Aug-13 08:13:57

For the cerise playsuits, buy some biotex laundry cleaner and soak the items for a good 12 hours in biotex in a bucket of water, then wash on warm with stain remover sprayed all over the blotches, and if they come out of the wash still looking a bit blotchy repeat with the biotex. Line dry or hang indoors away from heat.

Next time send old, sensible clothes for a camping holiday and do the packing yourself. Buying new anything is guaranteeing they will be ruined. It is Murphy's Law.

I hate it when people destroy laundry -- this was something exH used to do with bleach on the odd occasion when he got to the pile first. But camping and nice clothes do not mix even when there are laundry facilities.

Nooka, no you are not the only one. It's a shame to see children inhibited from fun by second thoughts about their clothes. It's usually girls that are hobbled in this way.

They don't have to watch their clothes because I don't let them go down wet slide in white shorts, I'd have sent them back to the tent to get changed.
This takes all the fun and spontaneity out of it and is a strange lesson to be teaching children. They really are being taught to watch their clothes and think of their clothes first before any other considerations; it's not a simple matter of 'There's the slide. Let's slide on it' for children who are going to be reminded of what they are wearing and then sent off to change.

See this is why I hate stains, I don't know how to deal with them. What's napisan?
I don't know how you've managed to get two children to the point where they can go off on a camping holiday without knowing about setting stains with heat, or about napisan.

I hope your children are so distracted by the puppy that they are missing all this drama about the clothes and it won't give them some sort of complex.

youarewinning Sat 03-Aug-13 08:41:35

OK so YABU, You know that, we know that.

But I get how you feel because I'm the same blush

DS goes with my mum to a campsite each year for 2 nights, they stay in a static and it does have a 'club' for the evening.

I send shoes/clothes/T-shirts that are OK for mud/ paddling and that I don't mind getting ruined and some smarter but nothing precious clothes for the evening.

It drives me mad that she tells him to put his trainers on - he only ever has 1 pair - and then takes him somewhere with a river and practically forces him to paddle in them - as in won't let him take them off. He has Velcro up plimsolls 2-3 pairs at £5 each for this sort of summer activity. He then chooses his day clothes to put on but she'll insist he wears the ones he's worn to the club because they'll already be dirty.

Sounds like a pathetic thing to get annoyed about and probably is! BUT........... my whole family has been going to this campsite for over 60 years and we 'all' my cousins and siblings etc had day clothes and smarter evening clothes and were made to shower and get clean for the club and have shoes that we could get wet/muddy and shoes we weren't allowed to deliberately ruin.

Mum told me "only send things camping you can afford to replace and don't mind getting ruined"

Year before last I only sent crocs and 2 pairs of plimsolls and old clothes that were stained already - she kept getting him to change shoes and by the first evening asked him where his trainers/ smart clothes were for club. Mummy didn't send them so nanny bought him a cheap pair. When she asked why I just replyed "only send things camping that you can afford to replace and don't mind getting ruined"

TBH I think the main reason it makes me feel stabby is that 363 days of the year I am a LP, I cope alone and although I'm very laid back I look after things because I can't afford to just buy more - then I lose that control for 2 days, and feel some misplaced anger that by not considering my feelings I'm not missed.

Told you it was stupid grin

ToysRLuv Sat 03-Aug-13 08:42:12

YABU and ridiculous

Did the dc only have the denim pair and the white pair? On a two week camping holiday (I would fall at my DParents' feet if they did that for me, btw)? You need at least 3 normal useable pairs for play and no fecking white ones. Kids' clothes get ruined. That at is a fact of life and you prepare for it rather than restrict play. Plenty of time to fanny around "looking good" and sitting around daintily, posing for photos later in life (should they wish to do that).

BTW, having had pet birds and a parrot I can let you all know that taking care of them for 2 weeks is no work at all.

You are very spoiled op.

imnotmymum Sat 03-Aug-13 09:53:36

So OP how is shortgate this morning all clean ...

HildaOgden Sat 03-Aug-13 10:09:39

Get a grip.

All this fuss over young children getting clothes dirty?Go over and read some of the threads of parents with terminally ill children,and count yourself lucky that your children are healthy enough to get a pair of tesco shorts dirty while they enjoy a childhood summer holiday with their grandparents.

Wbdn28 Sat 03-Aug-13 10:20:12


Passthesaltdear Sat 03-Aug-13 10:24:29

Ridiculous that you would even be botheredshock two weeks child free how ungrateful you are

Mumzy Sat 03-Aug-13 10:42:46

I think the OP's NN gives us a clue as to why she's so upset about the clothes. I agree with the posters who say put it down to experience and next year get some sacrilege clothes from primark or charity shops which won't bother you if they get ruined.

llittleyello Sat 03-Aug-13 10:45:50

Sweet Jesus

CeliaFate Sat 03-Aug-13 10:51:56

You know you're being unreasonable. You're also ungrateful and have no perspective. Your kids had fun, with their family at no expense to you while you had 2 weeks child free time.
I hope you had the good manners not to mention anything to your parents.
I am [shocked].

thebody Sat 03-Aug-13 10:55:07

this is one of the funniest mumsnet threads ever.

TheSecondComing Sat 03-Aug-13 10:57:22

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

McNewPants2013 Sat 03-Aug-13 10:58:48

the amount of time, money and energy you have wasted over a pair of shorts in unbelivable.

I would have just thrown the shorts out and got on with my life.

CeliaFate Sat 03-Aug-13 10:59:29

My sil once rang me to "just let me know" that her children's brand new trainers were dirty after playing in my garden and her dd was not allowed to remove her bobble as she'd now lost it and could I find it please?
Strangely, I never offered to babysit again!

Mumzy Sat 03-Aug-13 11:20:51

Someone also mentioned on this thread the guinea pigs with their own towels!!! What that all about???

pictish Sat 03-Aug-13 11:41:08

Celia grin <shakes head>

Aye - I have to say I have told dh about this OP, and we have laughed a lot!
Special going-to-the-pub-in-the-evening white shorts on a camping trip. The idea that under the same circumstances, you would have soaked them straightaway. Never been camping obviously. hmm grin

The misplacing of priorities and lack of gratitude! Astonishing!

The suggestion that doing laundry is your hobby. grin

All have made us laugh. grin

Seriously though OP, I envy you. To be so spoiled for familial support as to consider the loss of a pair of supermarket shorts as being worthy of note and complaint, in the face of a two week break at someone else's expense, is a very fortunate place to be.
Whatever else may be going on in your life, that is special.
Be careful you don't abuse it.

TotallyBursar Sat 03-Aug-13 13:47:44

I see. Thank you TSC

Balaboosta Sat 03-Aug-13 22:24:51

This is a control issue. If you want control take your kids on holiday yourself. Of course YABU.

foreverondiet Sat 03-Aug-13 22:34:05

Sorry Yabu to send white shorts on a camping trip. Try bleaching failing that dye them....

Lesat Tue 27-Aug-13 14:20:50

I LOVE my dd wearing white and ending up whatever colour!! It doesnt matter if her clothes are new or not!! It shows she has had a GREAT time and thats all that really matters.

SHarri13 Tue 27-Aug-13 15:57:19

Just sun the stains out!

My daughter and son would obliterate a pair of white shorts in the house never mind on a camping trip

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