Aibu to have had two user names on another site?

(67 Posts)
cacamilis Thu 01-Aug-13 13:20:03

I was a member on another chat forum and after been banned a couple of times for "daring" to question moderation or heaven forbid to speak my true opinion, I decided to create two user names, one where I could chat about everyday mundane topics and not have other posters drag up all my more controversial opinions from other more heated threads. Anyway I was quiet outspoken on a thread recently and insisted that I considered parents who let their older children (who has no illness/special needs) have soothers, were guilty of lazy parenting. Not only did they ban my outspoken account but also my normal one.
To be honest the site is pretty crap but there were a few posters on there whom I liked and we had a few ongoing discussions which I miss.

Anyway Aibu to think my quiet persona should have been left alone?

Tee2072 Thu 01-Aug-13 13:23:03

Depends on the rules of the forum. Here it would be no big deal, but you can have as many name changes as you want, so long as you don't sock puppet.

Perhaps over there you're only allowed one?

fluckered Thu 01-Aug-13 13:24:37

cacamilis I know EXACTLY where and what you are talking about. they did the same to me. I don't bother with it anymore. so boring. here is way better.

Sirzy Thu 01-Aug-13 13:24:57

A lot of forums have rules that people can't have more than one account in order to stop just what you did - people using one account to break the rules knowing they have a safe account.

cacamilis - jsut don't go there grin

stay here, you know you want to....

other sites are booooring

fluckered Thu 01-Aug-13 13:27:37

thing is this site has rules for few posters and different ones for different posters. it is not fairly moderated. guess that's what happens when regular posters are mods. they look out for their friends. don't give them a second thought.

cacamilis Thu 01-Aug-13 13:31:10

Well other posters regularly mention having a couple of user names, one for more personal topics or to avoid been recognised so it doesn't seem to be a problem unless you are outspoken.
Anyway I am not going back this time, it seems on there that when someone posts about a problem they are not asking for advice but want everyone else to validate their opinion and if you dare not to you get lambasted for not been supportive.

cacamilis Thu 01-Aug-13 13:32:15

Flickered are regular posters mods on rc? That would explain a lot.

If it was BC then it's against the terms of use so I'm not particularly sympathetic.

Even here, when people "legally" have multiple "personalities", there are rules about how you use them - both explicit and unwritten.

Tee2072 Thu 01-Aug-13 13:35:09

How do you know what forum she's talking about Fluckered?

cacamilis Thu 01-Aug-13 13:43:47

Mm Harry, did you mean RC, I don't know what BC is?
Well I think I followed the rules, I didn't name call or abuse just gave my opinion, this was the same on all threads I posted on. I and a few others are able to hold a debate without resorting to insults, it seems this is not appreciated. Other posters insulted myself and others who disagreed with the general consensus and resorted to a lot of name calling in order to get their opinion across. This didn't bother me and I wouldn't ever consider reporting it or making a big deal of it, but I find it strange that a forum bans users who have a different opinion. Surely they should only intervene if things get abusive?

fluckered Thu 01-Aug-13 13:45:03

because of the thread she mentioned and the way she described the forum. I read it at times. just look for the thread with a post count of more than 10 and its usually a fight lol. though sometimes that can be misleading as the post count goes crazy when a steam mop is being discussed. riveting stuff I tell you.

OHforDUCKScake Thu 01-Aug-13 13:45:24

Which site? My nosiness neeeeeeds fulfilling. Needs, I tell thee.

fluckered Thu 01-Aug-13 13:46:30

caca they are not consistent. so therefore can never moderate efficiently. they do not apply the rules across the board.

fluckered Thu 01-Aug-13 13:47:31

I wont say unless OP does as its her thread. though someone already mentioned the initials of the site. be beware as could cause this thread to be deleted as doubt bashing another forum is allowed.

usualsuspect Thu 01-Aug-13 13:48:11

If those are the rules of the site, then yes ABU.

If you are banned you are banned.

But if the rule is that you can only have one login, you can only have one login.

cacamilis Thu 01-Aug-13 13:49:52

Fluckered lol, steam mops and child benefit threads always get a rise.
The forum is an Irish site what I liked about it initially was that you could discuss local topics, but heaven help anyone who dares to hold a different opinion, all hell breaks loose.

usualsuspect Thu 01-Aug-13 13:49:58

You are allowed to talk about other sites on MN.

Although slagging off other sites always gets on my wick.

If you have a problem with another site,take it up with them.

fluckered Thu 01-Aug-13 13:51:31

but the rule isn't that you cant have more than one login. there are no limits as far as I am aware. you can not name change like here so people do openly admit to have separate accounts to discuss sensitive material. but they blanket ban all attempts to register or if you do and are no longer causing trouble as they see it, they still ban once they have linked ip addresses. ah, at the end of the day its their forum they can do as they will. I gave up a long time ago.

ImTooHecsyForYourParty Thu 01-Aug-13 13:51:34

Were you pretending to be two different people?
Cos that's generally frowned on and I am not surprised they banned you.
Mnhq would ban you if it came to their attention that you were maintaing two different people on here.
Particularly if you make each one live in a different place, have a different number of children, be a different age etc.
Its a lie.

cacamilis Thu 01-Aug-13 13:54:28

To be honest I don't know if it is the rule I don't think it is, I was previously banned for offering the opinion that the moderation was not up to much and on another occasion for stating I thought that weeks mass banning was unfair.
I don't think I got banned this time for having two usernames but because I said giving older kids soothers was lazy parenting, this caused an uproar with the masses.:-)
Sorry for mentioning the name, didn't realise it wasn't allowed.

fluckered Thu 01-Aug-13 13:54:31

I wish I could usualsuspect. Attempts to re join and in very civil contact with them directly once they linked an ip address to a name I used for months and never caused an agro was banned. I was never actually banned. I flounced lol and asked them to remove my posts. then when I tried to rejoin after some time I kept getting banned. All I was told was the decision was final when I asked why. but like I said, I don't mind. I have here and other forums.

Runningchick123 Thu 01-Aug-13 13:55:00

Problem is with that other similar website (if its the one I'm thinking of) is that they don't ask you to verify your email when you sign up so you could sign up as Mickey Mouse with a fake email address and you would then be able to join the chat, so there's nothing stopping people from having several different logins which is a recipe for disaster. Despite this total lapse in sign up security the site is totally over moderated and you are not allowed any swear words because all the posters are treated like 5 year olds by the mods.
Anyhow, if its the forum that i think it is then the OP is much better for having had her accounts deleted as its too much sparkles and fairy dust and not much intelligence going on over there.
Much better to post on heregrin

usualsuspect Thu 01-Aug-13 13:56:32

Multiple log ins are not accepted on any forum I've ever been on.

Not to say posters don't do it, but if you are caught out then yes all accounts will be banned.

fluckered Thu 01-Aug-13 13:56:48

caca don't worry about it. their loss. I love MN as you can debate, you cannot delete without contacting MNHQ with a valid reason so no going off in a huff because no one agreed with you, no tickers, soppy signatures, fluffy pics or huns and xxxxs, and opinions from all walks of life that make you think.

fluckered Thu 01-Aug-13 13:58:29

with this site to register you must have a valid email address as it sends a link before registration is complete. for years people have said they have multiple (probably no more than 2) log ins for different topics and as far as I am aware it was allowed. obviously if it was to troll they should be banned but it was not a black and white rule.

usualsuspect Thu 01-Aug-13 13:58:36

You would cause uproar on here with your opinions on dummies tbh.

Runningchick123 Thu 01-Aug-13 13:58:53

Another forum allows an unlimited number of anon log ins which allows people to post without giving away their regular user name - just as bad as being allowed multiple logins.

fluckered Thu 01-Aug-13 14:00:51

but at least here usualsuspect you can debate the topic and even if it gets heated you are not banned or the OP deletes the thread.

cacamilis Thu 01-Aug-13 14:05:29

No not pretending to be two different people, I can hardly remember my own real life facts so I wouldn't be able to maintain a second makeup one.

No on my second identity I gave my true opinions, not flowered up with "sorries". I didnt give any personal info or back story, just my opinion.
I didn't feel I could give my opinions on my true user name because it would be dragged up in every thread I posted in. You know like I might be discussing my diet on a weightless thread and next thing someone would come on and drag up that I thought living in an estate wasn't something I would like to do!!

Tee2072 Thu 01-Aug-13 14:09:53

BTW my son is 4 and sleeps with a dummy.

Judge away...

musicismylife Thu 01-Aug-13 14:10:36

If you have a problem with another site, take it up with them.

She can't, she banned.

AlfalfaMum Thu 01-Aug-13 14:10:44

We had a big influx of banned members from rc last year I think?

I'd say yabu for having two usernames, it's underhand and can be used for all manner two-faced nastiness.

usualsuspect Thu 01-Aug-13 14:11:10

So will you use different user names for different opinions on MN?

fluckered Thu 01-Aug-13 14:12:30

gosh that's too much like hard work having two log ins. besides mine does it automatically in work - only site not banned thank fuck!!

cacamilis Thu 01-Aug-13 14:15:27

You are not allowed to take it up with the moderators, you get no replies and it is a power trip for them which they will not get from me.
Tbh I kept meaning to leave but I had started an ongoing thread months ago re healthy lifestyle and kept going back to chat on that.
The uproar wouldn't bother me, I like a good debate. I found the resorting to name calling tedious, the art of debate was missing. Also the term judgemental was whipped on a regular basis, some posters felt that it added substance to their post.;-)

usualsuspect Thu 01-Aug-13 14:18:40

Goady posters are not tolerated very well on MN either. wink

xylem8 Thu 01-Aug-13 14:20:23

She can't, she banned.
Why not just switch the router off for a few hours (which will allocate a new IP address)and then re-register with a different email?

cushtie335 Thu 01-Aug-13 14:22:51

This is the accepted rule on most forums to avoid "sock puppetry". I did it myself on digital spy because I was sick of seeing the same clique getting away with some awful, inflammatory posts and others being banned for next to nothing. I was more or less "me" in one persona and the other was a bit of a troll if I'm honest. I kept it going for months until for a laugh one day I decided to get into an argument with myself. They eventually spotted it and banned both accounts, but it was worth it for the lols.

cacamilis Thu 01-Aug-13 14:35:09

Yes having two user names could be hard, but I rarely used second user name, I mainly used it when my opinion was against the norm as it was easier than been followed around every thread I posted in by an aggrieved poster. This happens a lot, new posters are often accused of been a troll if they don't share the popular opinion and lord help you if someone else who agrees with you joined around the same time, you are then accused of been the same person or friends.
No I won't have two user names on here, it wasn't something I was comfortable with at all, but I felt I had to as having previous comments thrown up at me months later was irritating. I probably should have just stuck with the one and sucked it up.

cushtie335 Thu 01-Aug-13 14:37:37

More than troll hunters is people who trawl through your posting history and use it against you, even when it's really tenuous. I have no idea how to see someone's posting history on MN, and if people name change than it must be even harder. Most of the time I don't even notice the name of the poster, it's the actual post they've made I'm interested in.

cacamilis Thu 01-Aug-13 14:45:46

You do need to verify the email account and turning off the wifi not working. I know if I were bothered I could get around it but I am done.
Usual suspect, is giving a true opinion considered rowdy on here too?
I want to be clear I was not trolling by any means just sometimes giving a different opinion for example there was a thread where the op asked if it was ok to let her four year old play out on the green unwatched,another poster said no four was too young and the op was been negligent and should wait until her child was five like she did with her little one. I pointed out that five was very young too and I thought this was negligent, it went down like a tonne of bricks, lots of name calling and following around ensued, this is what I was trying to avoid with the second user name.
I am making myself laugh now, I really don't know why I didn't get out sooner. Lol

usualsuspect Thu 01-Aug-13 14:49:50

No there are lots of true opinions on here.

Start a thread on lazy parents giving their older children dummies and see what happens.

cacamilis Thu 01-Aug-13 15:00:13

I wouldn't have any interest in starting such a thread, the person who started it was apparently in bits because her child had managed to give it up herself at age 4. I agreed with someone else that it was well time for it to be gone, it went down hill from there.

fattymuatty Thu 01-Aug-13 15:16:53

I think it's a bit pathetic and two faced tbh. Have the balls to say what you want yo say under your own username or don't say it all. I am a member the site you are talking about and you don't have aw hun at everyone, I certainly don't but at the same time if you want to call someone a lazy parent you can't expect that they are going to be thrilled to hear it. That's life no one wants their parenting choices judged. It is two faced though to aw hun on one thread and blast on another under another username.

cacamilis Thu 01-Aug-13 15:27:06

I never ever "ah Hun" it wouldn't matter what user name I had its not me.
It's a pity that many users on that site will not allow other posters to give a different opinion, as I said they usually resort to name calling, shouting troll and dragging the argument into the next thread you post on. If certain posters on that site acted more mature then I wouldn't have felt the need to give opinions under a different name.
I would never expect another poster to be thrilled to hear something critical about themselves but I would expect them to be able to hold a proper debate, sadly this is very much lacking on rc.

FrussoHathor Thu 01-Aug-13 15:28:00

caca I ran stepped away from another site because I got stamped on disagreed with by a large number of other users.
I think you have learnt the same lesson I did. Some people will agree with you and others won't. A fight will usually insue when users differ, Often with other users adding wood to the fire, and at the end of the day the OP will still do what they want and so will others sometimes it's just best to let it go and walk away.

cacamilis Thu 01-Aug-13 15:33:20

You summoned it up nicely frussohator, it's a pity it took me so long to see it and that I invested so much in one thread. Oh we'll lesson learned.

MalcolmTuckersMum Thu 01-Aug-13 15:35:10

I thought they were talking about Soothers - the cough sweet. I had no idea they were controversial.

I'll get me coat................

FrussoHathor Thu 01-Aug-13 16:35:31

MTM ooh not the cough sweet. Have to be over 7 for them. wink

choking hazard shock

cacamilis Thu 01-Aug-13 16:47:19

Some posters called them "dodies" that caused things to become extremely heated.
Do Amy of you own a steam mop you could recommend? (Wink)

usualsuspect Thu 01-Aug-13 16:56:48

Why are you telling us what people posted on another site?

I couldn't care less tbh.

cacamilis Thu 01-Aug-13 17:03:14

Am I meant to care weather you could or not usual suspect? I must have missed that memo!

FrussoHathor Thu 01-Aug-13 17:14:39

It's always more fun over here caca

Talkinpeace Thu 01-Aug-13 17:21:33

Mumsnet bans you from having a live account when another has been stopped from posting.
They just don't always communicate it clearly - and in my case took 2 years to notice my new account

Ebay is the only forum I know that has no limits at all on the number of IDs one can have

cacamilis Thu 01-Aug-13 17:41:54

Did they try and ban you when you were finally "outed" talkinpeace?

Frussohator it is more light hearted over here I have been dipping in and out for a while, I like the fast pace better.

FrussoHathor Thu 01-Aug-13 18:32:54

I agree caca I came over on a piss take thread invasion about 3 years ago and never went back. grin

fluckered Thu 01-Aug-13 18:35:24

caca they are all pissed you "deleted" your thread without warning them! lol

cacamilis Thu 01-Aug-13 19:18:27

Oh lord, I asked the admin to delete my posts not the thread, I had a lot of personal info on that thread and didn't like it been left on without me having the option to delete.
Rc admins probably deleted the whole thread to get a buzz going, it's been dead on there this last while.
I loved that thread as did many others, a lovely bunch posted on it, now it's gone I def will not be looking back.

fluckered Thu 01-Aug-13 20:05:58

caca if you started that thread then if you asked them to remove your posts the thread would go too.

AnnabelleLee Thu 01-Aug-13 20:46:25

Rollercoaster is one big fluffy hun-fest. Any opinion other than "u no ur bubz hun lol" will get you banned.

cacamilis Thu 01-Aug-13 21:36:09

I did stipulate to only remove my post not the thread. never mind some saddo has seen fit to enlighten them that I threw a hissy fit and demanded the thread to be removed. Sure why let the truth get in the way of a good story.grin grin

ArtEFischlerReisson Thu 01-Aug-13 21:45:30

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cacamilis Thu 01-Aug-13 21:51:08

lol, how much time did you put into thinking up that reply?
Your indignation made me laugh thanksgrin

Talkinpeace Thu 01-Aug-13 22:33:51

I was not outed
I emailed MNHQ to ask if I could use my real name (having been stuck with the "2" for a couple of years)
and I've never made any bones about TiP being my alter ego
after a bit of shenanegins TiP2 was closed (could do with having the pics deleted MNHQ) and I got my lovely TiP name back

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