to think anyone contributing to a Christmas thread in July needs to find a life?

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MardyBra Wed 31-Jul-13 16:36:43

They're popping up already.

Instead of planning Christmas now, go out and enjoy the summer.

I need to hide the Christmas topic until December, don't I?

ssd Wed 31-Jul-13 16:38:11

maybe the need to plan for Christmas financially and find the threads useful?

Christmas talk can start in December.

I do not wish to talk about it. I dont want to see it in stores til then. I have birthdays to get through first

OvO Wed 31-Jul-13 16:39:48

Ahhh the Mardy Christmas complaining thread. Must be time to start planning as soon as this pops up.

Arisbottle Wed 31-Jul-13 16:40:03

I start thinking about Christmas around the 20th December so it is not smoke thing I understand if I am being honest.

Ssd is right though that some people have to budget .

TylerHopkins Wed 31-Jul-13 16:40:16

It's raining near me today and it's making me feel all Christmassy!

As an online retailer my Christmas starts in the next week or so. Planning, buying and selling stock. Last year August - November was my busiest period ever. I though August would be quiet due to the hols but it was mad.

MardyBra Wed 31-Jul-13 16:41:02

Glad to be of use OvO.

AnnabelleLee Wed 31-Jul-13 16:41:05

If you need to plan financially for Christmas, save some money for it. Doesn't mean you need to be talking about gift choices and dinner arrangements.

Yanbu, OP.

I'll give you mid-way through November. TBF however, some of us live in different countries and do need to plan Christmas months in advance. I have to think about posting parcels in September because my last post date is in October. Doesn't mean the rest of you have to suffer, though.

SoupDragon Wed 31-Jul-13 16:41:13

Instead of planning Christmas now, go out and enjoy the summer.

Instead of starting threads whinging about people planning Christmas now, go out and enjoy the summer grin

Sirzy Wed 31-Jul-13 16:41:38

If I only started thinking about Christmas in December then DS would get very little as I need to spread the cost out. I also buy things when they are reduced so I need some idea what I am getting.

Nobody is forced to read or post on any thread so if you don't like christmas threads then ignore them.

needaholidaynow Wed 31-Jul-13 16:41:58

I've already started my Christmas shopping.... blush

Just eases the pressure later on what with us having a low ish income and everything.

Squitten Wed 31-Jul-13 16:42:33

I have to plan for Xmas now. I'm having DC3 in late Oct/early Nov and then have DS2's birthday 4wks later. If I don't plan Xmas now, my kids won't have one!

MardyBra Wed 31-Jul-13 16:43:00

But you might buy something now and change your mind nearer the date about what the ideal present might be.

MardyBra Wed 31-Jul-13 16:43:54

I take on board the financial planning thing.

Isn't this a Christmas thread?

drinkyourmilk Wed 31-Jul-13 16:44:33

My income is set to drop dramatically. I'm rubbish at saving. Therefore I've just about finished my Xmas shopping.

"To think anyone contributing to a Christmas thread in July needs to find a life"

That's so insulting.

For some Christmas is a big deal - often it's the only time that some families all come together. For others it's an expensive time of year and starting early makes it more affordable.

It's not a thread I have any interest in but then neither is the craft thread or the camping one. However, I'd never tell those on it they need to find a life. Just don't read it.

OvO Wed 31-Jul-13 16:45:05

I buy Lego and playmobil all year when I see it on offer, then put it away for Christmas. It would be daft not to buy at half price.

Sirzy Wed 31-Jul-13 16:45:16

That's the risk you have to take. I tend to leave the ""main" present to closer unless its a bargain but buy stocking filler types in sales.

AnnabelleLee Wed 31-Jul-13 16:45:22

you need to plan in july or they won't have one? What on earth do you do at christmas that needs 6 months of planning? Buy a few gifts, order a turkey. Done.

wonderingsoul Wed 31-Jul-13 16:45:36

you dont have to read it..so whats your problem?

MardyBra Wed 31-Jul-13 16:46:53

"you need to plan in july or they won't have one? What on earth do you do at christmas that needs 6 months of planning? Buy a few gifts, order a turkey. Done."

Exactly.

wonderingsoul Wed 31-Jul-13 16:47:08

annabelle... id love to live your world.

i v allready started buying presents.. stuff that i know they will love 6 months down the line lego liess then half price grin
because other wise my children. parents wont get any.

ENormaSnob Wed 31-Jul-13 16:48:17

But arent the threads in the christmas topic?

In which case surely you could just not venture in there?

MardyBra Wed 31-Jul-13 16:48:28

This is an annual traditional bunfight iirc.

MardyBra Wed 31-Jul-13 16:49:46

"But arent the threads in the christmas topic?

In which case surely you could just not venture in there?"

Yes I'm just rehiding it. It got unhidden around mid November last year.

TeWiSavesTheDay Wed 31-Jul-13 16:49:49

If you've got a tight budget starting now is very sensible! Unfortunate but true fact.

soverylucky Wed 31-Jul-13 16:50:10

I always start buying as early as possible. It makes it affordable for me.

ENormaSnob Wed 31-Jul-13 16:50:39

I have started buying as im on mat pay and likely to have shit all money come dec.

At least i wont have to worry about it and i wont be starting a begging thread wink

OvO Wed 31-Jul-13 16:51:04

Why do some of you not grasp that even the cost of buying a few gifts and a turkey is a LOT to some people. That to even give your closest loved ones one modest gift might take a lot of a persons income, so they need to spread out the cost.

Not everyone has the sort of wage that means they can use their last pay check before Christmas for everything plus normal bills.

MardyBra Wed 31-Jul-13 16:51:08

And I'll get all thread-police-y on anyone who starts posting aibu to ask you about your Christmas bargains/traditions/turkey-basting tips?

TylerHopkins Wed 31-Jul-13 16:51:34

Those who buy early will have a stress free Christmas and won't end up running around like headless chickens grin

ENormaSnob Wed 31-Jul-13 16:52:34

Just because its now unhidden doesnt mean you have to click on it grin

MardyBra Wed 31-Jul-13 16:52:36

grin
Well that's set the cat amongst the pigeons. I'm heading off into the sunshine...

Sirzy Wed 31-Jul-13 16:53:02

Exactly Tyler. Other than fresh food I had everything purchased by the start of December meaning I could enjoy -laughing and people panicking the build up to Christmas

AnnabelleLee Wed 31-Jul-13 16:53:17

Still no getting why people won't get presents if you don;t get them in july. I save money monthly for christmas, then buy stuff later. I don't see why thats hard to do.
Sure, if you want to, if thats how you like to do it, fair enough, none of my concern, but I'm not buying the "its the only way I can possibly do it" bit.

MardyBra Wed 31-Jul-13 16:53:53

"Those who buy early will have a stress free Christmas and won't end up running around like headless chickens"

Oh yes, thinking about it, I inflicted you all with a stressed-out-Mardy-out-Christmas-shopping thread last year. grin

ValiumQueen Wed 31-Jul-13 16:54:05

YABU. You are entitled to your opinion, and to hide the topic, but not to insult people.

Arisbottle Wed 31-Jul-13 16:54:09

Aside from money , I am not sure what there is to plan this early. Christmas dinner is Sunday lunch with a bigger bird and you just bung a present for each child under the tree.

I love to do the Christmas food myself so start cooking around Oct/ Nov but nothing needs doing now.

wonderingsoul Wed 31-Jul-13 16:54:35

becasue that lego set i brought for £15 will have been full price come december..

its not really hard to figure out..

usualsuspect Wed 31-Jul-13 16:55:24

I did think I needed to hide the Christmas topic today.

Thanks for reminding me.

Arisbottle Wed 31-Jul-13 16:55:27

We tend to buy our presents and food on the 23rd and 24th December, I have never run around like a headless chicken, in fact we always have time to have a leisurely lunch and get pissed on mulled wine,

MardyBra Wed 31-Jul-13 16:55:30

"Christmas dinner is Sunday lunch with a bigger bird and you just bung a present for each child under the tree."

Exactly.

Edendance Wed 31-Jul-13 16:56:11

Went into the Christmas section in harrods last Friday... Christmas music and everything!!

FobblyWoof Wed 31-Jul-13 16:56:13

Considering DC2 will be born no later than two days after Christmas it is the kind of thing I need to start thinking about now grin

ExcuseTypos Wed 31-Jul-13 16:56:18

Surely it's only the same as people planning and booking their summer holidays in January.

TylerHopkins Wed 31-Jul-13 16:56:58

We need a constant stream of things to complain about. If it's not the weather then it has to be the cost of Christmas grin

Sirzy Wed 31-Jul-13 16:57:12

I do that too excuse - I have a holiday booked for may next year!

Arisbottle Wed 31-Jul-13 16:57:56

But people have to book time of for their holidays well in advance, holidays are expensive as well. Surely people spend a lot less on Christmas than a holiday.

TeWiSavesTheDay Wed 31-Jul-13 16:58:02

Starting early is more about buying everything on sale for me. I know the budget is really tight this year, and Just got a load of pjs for £2-3 each. If I bought them in December it's more like £8-10 a pair.

OvO Wed 31-Jul-13 16:58:07

Clearly I do Christmas way better than some of you. My children will love me more.

Turkey and a present. Tsk.

<tosses hair and struts off>

defineme Wed 31-Jul-13 16:58:44

I use all the bargains I get off that thread for birthday presents-saves me a fortune.
I love planning for stuff that's nice like holidays, but it doesn't mean I'm not having a life whilst I'm planning stuff: on the contrary-I'm doing the stuff I planned 6 months ago!
I do find it hard to get stuff for Christmas because dc change their interests, but I do pile up stuff for other people likes nieces-does it really matter what time of year I bought the board game?

wonderingsoul Wed 31-Jul-13 16:58:45

sirzy im putting a deposit down next week for a week hoilday in casiter that we will go on for next summer hoildays next year.. but hey i should just save up and pay on the day... missing out on BIG discounts that out now.

defineme Wed 31-Jul-13 17:00:44

I don't plan the meal-dh does that and we just have chicken as we hate turkey so it's no stress. I do like to organize tickets to skating and theatre though-they're sold out by November.

Arisbottle Wed 31-Jul-13 17:01:13

I don't even pretend to do Christmas that well.

if you come to mine you will get fed and watered. if I gave birth to you there is a gift under the tree . Job done.

wonderingsoul Wed 31-Jul-13 17:01:14

exactlly tewisaves-- things are generally on sale or have bigger discounts than they do at christmas.

i cant see how people cant get their heads around it.

I freakin love Christmas ...

Isn't it sort of the equivalent of planning your summer holiday in winter?

ExcuseTypos Wed 31-Jul-13 17:02:48

In my house Christmas is much more Han a Sunday roast and a few presents. It's lots of overnight visitors and everything that entails, decorating the whole of the house, lots of drink parties, village events, meals out, presents for family, friends, teachers, etc etc, special food for the whole week, drinks, etc etc. I also have my DDs birthday on the 23rd dec.

I don't start planning until November but if people want to start early- good on them for being so organised.

lunar1 Wed 31-Jul-13 17:05:19

I think the op is secretly a huge Christmas fan and has her decorations up already.

I am posting on the christmas because I enjoy planning and getting a bargain, but you are the first I have seen to post outside the Christmas topic.

Arisbottle Wed 31-Jul-13 17:07:39

We do most of that, but it doesn't take much planning, certainly not to start now.

Decorate the house - the children do that. decorations in the loft, give them some money to buy extras and they can raid the woods for anything else.

Drinks parties - online order - although booze is not something we lack!

Meals out - you phone and book a table.

Presents - if I have birth to you, you get one. If the children want to buy presents for teachers etc that is up to them to sort out.

Food - I do start cooking in October/ November - but I am always cooking, preserving , baking in advance anyway.

Flobbadobs Wed 31-Jul-13 17:08:57

I have about half my present shopping done. Plus the gifts for the 4 birthdays we have in December. I don't actually want to think about Christmas that much in December until the day itself!
I have a great life, I just like to be organised occasionally
YABU. merry Christmas grin

thismousebites Wed 31-Jul-13 17:11:55

YANBU bah humbugconfused

wonderingsoul Wed 31-Jul-13 17:13:26

flobbadobs-- i also have a birthday in nov and dec.. but even with out them id start shopping now..

i find the 2needs to get a life" really quite vile and uncalled for really. quite easly offend and insult thouse who have limted funs into making them feel worse.

ENormaSnob Wed 31-Jul-13 17:13:44

Early bird catches the worm grin

Mrsrobertduvall Wed 31-Jul-13 17:21:47

How many presents do you all buy? shock
or more to the point, how many do you buy for?

I think that's why people shop so early.....I only buy for dcs and dh.
They will tell me what they want...I will buy it. Or rather dh will buy it himself as it will be something wanky for golf, and I transfer the money.

Dh and ds may be away in Oz anyway from Xmas day (fingers crossed)

Arisbottle Wed 31-Jul-13 17:23:09

Five children, two presents each so ten in total.

ArghFFS Wed 31-Jul-13 17:29:15

but Christmas is awesome. we should already be counting down the days

FeegleFion Wed 31-Jul-13 17:30:35

Bah Humbug!

Mardy YADNBU in the slightest.

Even seeing the word brings me out in hives. Despite the fact that it would be sensible for me to start now or dare I say earlier? I just don't like Christmas.

It's money spent on often unwanted/ unappreciated gifts and mountains of food that's guaranteed to feed 500 more than the 6 or so it's intended for, stress, forced happy extended families and a massive anti-climax before the post 'festivities' deep clean commences and everything is packed or in my case stuffed any old way away and it can be forgotten about for another year...

...except 'next year' seems to be getting earlier and earlier each year.

For me, and I am fully aware I am in the minority, it's Bah bloody Humbug!

FeegleFion Wed 31-Jul-13 17:34:07

X-Humbugs with thismousebites grin

MardyBra Wed 31-Jul-13 17:36:15

"Isn't it sort of the equivalent of planning your summer holiday in winter?"

I don't do that either.

Arisbottle Wed 31-Jul-13 17:46:17

I don't either mardybra but not because of some kind of ethical or moral stance but just because we are not very organised.

StuntGirl Wed 31-Jul-13 17:54:02

Soo....don't read them?

Starting the first whinging AIBU of the year on it might be considered a bit sad too....

Yabu, I'm already deciding what dds are getting as I like to have all 3dds in for septmber, I worry if I leave it too late I wont get what they want, people who leave it until last minute stress me. I just can't be disorganised it's to frustrating

christmas is all about mountains of presents, good food and loved ones how cany anyone moan about that, it takes planning, doesn't mean your not enjoying the summer or life laptops can be used in the garden while catching some rays!!

soverylucky Wed 31-Jul-13 18:18:13

I have two children to buy for, dh, parents and a lot of siblings and 10 nephews/nieces. I don't buy them anything expensive but they all get something.

It's the most wonderful time of the year, tra la la

I hate summer. I burn even though I reapply factor 50 every half an hour, I get hayfever which in turn can trigger my asthma. It gets humid which triggers my asthma and excema and there are thunderstorms which regularly cause me to have to visit hospital with my asthma. At least at Christmas time I can stay indoors and drink copious amounts of wine hot chocolate and not have to shave my legs.

Also, the summer holidays means everywhere is crowded with other peoples children (a pet hate of mine) and I have to look at lots of mens burnt moobs. Roll on Christmas ...

iclaudius Wed 31-Jul-13 18:26:29

Agree op I think if you spend half the year chatting about one day half a year later - something is wrong . Very wrong

specialsubject Wed 31-Jul-13 18:29:29

what would be more reasonable is for people who are on a tight budget to forget about retailmas, and stop buying useless crap for all and sundry.

if you need to spread the cost or go without other stuff, you don't have enough money for tat and tinsel. The kids don't need all the clutter either.

(pulls on flame-proof shorts...)

soverylucky Wed 31-Jul-13 18:33:27

I agree in a way special I just get one or two things a month. I would never get into debt. I don't buy tat either. I just find it easier to spread it throughout the year.

MrsBungle Wed 31-Jul-13 18:36:48

I love Christmas and am happy to talk about it anytime!

I absolutely understand why people would start shopping now. Christmas is expensive. I don't understand why people get worked up about this! Dh is the same. Can't mention Christmas until December!

Mrsrobertduvall Wed 31-Jul-13 18:44:50

Buy less for fewer people.

Plan to do 5:2 diet on Christmas Day and Boxing Day.

Job done. grin

(I think we are the only household to be mince pie/turkey/chocolate free over Christmas)

buzzgirly Wed 31-Jul-13 18:46:05

I love Christmas, it's the best time of the year. If you have a problem with it just don't open any of the threads - quite simple really.

MadeOfStarDust Wed 31-Jul-13 18:52:11

For me it's Christmas most of the year round.... I make decorations from felt and beads - to sell in November at the Christmas fairs.... - gives me enough money for new materials and pay for my Christmas and the kids piano lessons....

weebarra Wed 31-Jul-13 18:58:22

Personally, I use that thread to keep an eye on bargains. I saved a lot of money last year. With DC3 due within the next month, we'll be on a tight budget, so I find it's best to plan.

Flobbadobs Wed 31-Jul-13 19:02:46

Look. Those of us who like Christmas, enjoy the preparation and want to buy nice presents (not tat, how very dare you!! grin) on a budget do so and want to discuss things online. Thats presumably why MNHQ don't shut down the Christmas thread on Boxing Day and open it again in November. It's open all year round. Horses for courses people, I find threads that annoy me on a regular basis but don't shout about it, I'm sure most of us are the same.
Hide the damn topic if it annoys you so much and stop assuming we're sad people with no life!!
Lammas Blessings to fellow Pagans )o(

DesperatelySeekingSedatives Wed 31-Jul-13 19:08:22

I buy stuff now to spread the cost personally. Not all by any stretch but stocking fillers, cheap things for other peoples' kids that sort of thing.

I'd happily go and "enjoy the summer" except its raining right now and has been all this week. there isn't much to enjoy.

The only christmas threads I've seen are in the christmas topic, so very easy to avoid for those who have no interest yet or don't celebrate it. Just don't click on "christmas" and you wont see them. Sorted.

How very unkind Mardy.
I have a life thank you very much.
Hide topics you find distasteful if they bother you that much, no need to insult anyone.

Cheeseatmidnight Wed 31-Jul-13 19:18:08

Rude! I am a crafter so have Christmas orders in now.

ihategeorgeosborne Wed 31-Jul-13 19:19:05

I have to confess that I bought my 2 yr old ds a garage the other day as it was on sale, reduced from £29.99 to £9.99. I thought it was a bargain. It will be his main christmas present. I plan to get him a set of hot wheels to go with it. Job done. That's one child sorted!

morethanpotatoprints Wed 31-Jul-13 19:26:01

I have started buying bits as ime these are the things that end up costing the most. I also have few times to shop without my dd so have to make good use of those times.
There are many reasons why people start early, nobody is asking you to contribute to the threads, nor start your shopping.

GemmaTeller Wed 31-Jul-13 19:28:51

I've spent the last week photographing my christmas stock.....

BeaWheesht Wed 31-Jul-13 19:31:44

I have a life as much as anyone else on MN and I have contributed to the Christmas thread.

Ds and Dh both have birthdays at Christmas and I'm rubbish at saving up. Also my kids are usually non stop ill from October onwards. I wouldn't buy clothes / big presents Before November time but I've bought 1/2 price horrible histories sets, a 1/2 price playmobil set and some books.

MardyBra Wed 31-Jul-13 19:49:10

OK, I've obviously got a few backs up with my ranty wording of the thread title, so I apologise for that.

But with regards to the rest of the OP, I really, honestly, cannot see the point of spending six months plotting and planning for one day of the year.

Gemma, that's understandable that you're photographing now, as you obviously have a large base of tempting to write something derogatory but scared I'll offend again customers, who'll be wanting to buy from you months in advance.

Lilicat1013 Wed 31-Jul-13 20:17:23

At the moment my life is miserable, I am dealing with post natal depression without medication (I am epileptic, anti convulsion and anti depressants don't mix). My older son is autistic and going nuts because it is the holidays, every single day he attacks me and his baby brother. He screams constantly and is trashing the house.

I don't drive (due to epilepsy), I can't take them out anywhere on public transport as my older son can't cope and can't be out any longer than the time between bottles because I can't give my young son a bottle while out as it would mean taking my eyes of my older son who would run.

When my husband works the children are the only people I see all day and the only option of things we have to do is the park or the pet shop, over and over again because that is all that is do-able without help.

The heat increases the risk of seizures so if it is too hot we don't leave the house, my older son hates this and his behaviour deteriorates further.

Christmas planning gets me through the day, it reminds me there is something to look forward to and that things are going to get easier.

marriedinwhiteisback Wed 31-Jul-13 20:19:18

I've just started my summer holiday but I luffs christmas and I think about it every day. DS was born Xmas Day 1994 - it's a very speshul day and I always luffed it and luff it more now - every time I look at the big lumbering lad I think about christmas. Having a Christmas day birthday in the family takes some planning OP!! S do the presents, the wrappping, the cards, the posting, the shopping, the decorations, the food, the visitors, the parties, the joy. The church services, the concerts, the mulled wine, the baking. Someone tell me how many more sleeps. But of course forst we have to get back from hols, get dd back to school, ds to uni harvest festival, half term, advent, oh it's fab and I love it all smilea

marriedinwhiteisback Wed 31-Jul-13 20:22:11

Oh Lillcat - massive hugs -. Hope it gets better soon.

Lilicat1013 Wed 31-Jul-13 20:39:33

Thank you so much, Marriedinwhite, we are starting with Home Start now so I am hoping things will get easier.

It is just August to get through then he is back to preschool, he loves his preschool they are wonderful to him and he is so much happier in a routine.

MardyBra

I need to hide the Christmas topic until December, don't I?

Yes.
<peace and harmony>

PeanutButterMmm Wed 31-Jul-13 20:55:11

Shops sell everything half price all the time nowadays. It is not like the days when everything got really expensive before christmas with sales after christmas. All year round is the sales now and with online being cheaper too so those saying they are buying now when it is cheaper are talking nonsense.

Just put some money by each month and be done. The only time I could see it being sensible to buy now would be those who have very large families to buy for so take the stress from buying all at once. Although both mine and my dh have all our families birthdays in december (which was weird) so I have to buy double. I can't say I have ever panicked about presents though, it all gets done.

SuckAtRelationships Wed 31-Jul-13 20:58:00

Last year I HAD to start planning in July to afford it (was on benefits then)

Today I mentioned it because I bought my first pressie. It was by accident really. I was buying a birthday present and saw something else that would be great for the person so thought I would get it while it was still around and it could be a Christmas present! grin

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 31-Jul-13 21:08:23

I love Christmas, I love everything everything about it. I look forward to it and I think about it all through the year.

You may think I'm mad / daft / weird but I think the same about people who talk endlessly about pushchairs / clothes / feeding options / any manner of things that people discuss endlessly all year round on MN.

Live and let live. And don't forget that tomorrow is August, the month that Costco get their Christmas stock in - ding-dong!

LongGoneBeforeDaylight Wed 31-Jul-13 21:09:23

Presumably posting about people posting on Christmas threads in July is doubly sad then.....

muddymarvellousdarling Wed 31-Jul-13 21:14:26

I've got some great presents in the sales over the past weeks.

If I see something that I think someone would like I buy it.
I like to be organised. grin

I can't be doing with all the rush buying during December.

trixymalixy Wed 31-Jul-13 21:20:36

I buy stocking fillers etc all through the year if I see good deals. I got loads of stuff for £1-£3 in tkmaxx yesterday, zoobles, moshi monsters and Melissa and Doug stuff. If I saved and waited until December to buy it they would have cost me 7 times the price.

Patchouli Wed 31-Jul-13 21:21:09

Only 4 more paydays til xmas...

MadBannersAndCopPorn Wed 31-Jul-13 21:21:34

I'm expecting dd2/3 (have a dsd) on December 22nd (so Christmas day knowing my luck).

I'll be starting to buy for Christmas very soon as I don't fancy waddling round the rammed shops in fear of my water breaking at any given moment.

I'm never likely to go camping but somehow seeing camping threads in WINTER doesn't enrage me.

It's so much better doing a little bit of shopping for presents and planning now because it's;

(a) better value
(b) has more thought put into it
(c) less stressful

Otherwise you running from the nativity play to random shops buying the first thing you see, spending a fortune and giving Great Aunt Maud a chainsaw or somesuch.

Hide the topic Mardy, please!

amothersplaceisinthewrong Wed 31-Jul-13 21:23:40

I have to think about it now as I need to book b&B/hotel for family members and its cheaper to do it now.

Caster8 Wed 31-Jul-13 21:29:24

Sometimes in life you can do both! Christmas and hot summer days!

No, I havent been looking for Christmas presents personally. Do pick up bits when I see them though, whatever the month happens to be.

PoppyWearer Wed 31-Jul-13 21:29:28

I take no offence, OP. I've been merrily contributing to the Christmas threads for the past few weeks due to having no life/poorly DCs and being stuck indoors, also a LOT of birthdays to buy for, now all done thanks to Reastie and her amazing bargain thread.

I like having things planned early so that I can relax and try to enjoy the Christmas period, without having to spend half of it in shopping centres!

everydayaschoolday Wed 31-Jul-13 21:30:21

sorry, but I'm in the YABU camp. I agree with all the bargain hunters (I have a 'christmas cupboard' and a spreadsheet of all purchases against intended recipient - I appreciate this is v sad smile).

But the bottom line is that I genuinely enjoy all the organising and planning. Our christmas festivities and traditions start on 1 Dec and run through to New Years with activities, holiday etc. It's not about the money, it's forward planning to give my kids lots of happy memories without me being stressed out doing it. And I fully enjoy the whole of december without having to lift a finger doing christmas chores (they're all done). To me christmas isn't a present each and a turkey.

I know that's not everyones cuppa - so just hide the thread if it's not your thing. <at least we post in the Christmas Topic wink>

Ericaequites Wed 31-Jul-13 21:31:12

I am making 7 quilts 230 cm square as Christmas gifts, and three wardrobes of doll clothes for little cousins as well as Christmas clothes for two of these children. Their parents are broke as church mice, but can afford lots of drink and a holiday in Las Vegas. Someone has to give them a decent holiday...
My mother is growing vague, so I hope to have everyone for Christmas lunch. It's only a roast for eight, but then I need not shovel out my folks' house.

Complaining about christmas threads in the christmas section is like complaining about aibu questions on aibu. If you don't want to talk about christmas then avoid the section!

YABU.

LostLion Wed 31-Jul-13 21:42:36

Why be so condescending?

There are tones of topics and threads on MN that I have no interest in....I don't go about insulting those who can't decide between a pink or purple handbag on the style and beauty forum though. If your not personally interested than don't engage.

SoleSource Wed 31-Jul-13 22:12:45

Another Christmas thread, yawn

GemmaTeller Thu 01-Aug-13 09:06:25

Last week when it was 30+ degrees I decamped to the garden in my bikini and did my christmas spreadsheet, my present list and a list of things to make as presents.

PeanutButterMmm Thu 01-Aug-13 09:16:37

Doesn't anyone else enjoy christmas shopping when the shops look christmasy though?

I don't mean running around in december in a mad panic, shops put their stuff out as early as september now although that is way too early!

It is nice walking around in november when the shops look pretty, november doesn't feel ridiculusly early nor does it feel last minute. There are plenty of bargains to be had at anytime of year nowadays and I also have lots to buy.

LuisSuarezTeeth Thu 01-Aug-13 09:30:34

Aw Mardy you just wanted to be first, dintya? grin

Merry Christmas!

wanderings Thu 01-Aug-13 10:27:31

Christmas choir practice has begun.

This year I have quite enjoyed playing a few Christmas carols in July; it meant that I could play songs about the birth of a King, instead of the birth of the royal King!

PeanutButterMmm
Yup, LOVE going round the shops when it's all Christmassy, but I do only two trips to the city, everything else done online.

Trip one, take DC to buy little presents for each other (pound shop, as they get plenty as it is) and to see the lights/tree, have a meal out.

Trip two, I go alone (midweek) to have a mooch round the shops and a gingerbread latte. Everything I need has already been bought, so there is no rush or pressure. Just a lovely bit of people watching and soaking up the atmosphere.

I'm only on this thread because you mentioned christmas. I start planning in september.

Crinkle77 Thu 01-Aug-13 12:59:05

Someone on facebook put a how many days there was to xmas and I felt like telling them to eff off.

insertsomethingwitty Thu 01-Aug-13 13:03:32

I start buying my presents now. At the moment I can afford to buy them. I worry if we left them until the last minute and then we have some sort of financial crisis the children will end up with nothing. At least I know now that even if I don't have a spare penny on the day because of some unforeseen emergency they will at least have a few gifts to open.

specialsubject Thu 01-Aug-13 13:12:55

As others note, each to their own - but it saddens me that it is summer with long days, flowers, lovely weather etc etc and people are spending time thinking about one day five months ahead. Live for now.

it will be dark and possibly miserable on Dec 25th, four days after the shortest day. The tinsel and sparkle does enliven a rubbish time of year - but why think about it now.

and all the pressure to buy each other clutter is so, so sad too.

Arisbottle Thu 01-Aug-13 13:35:23

It just seems that for some people Christmas has become a chore, so onerous that it needs spreading over the year, rather than a lighthearted festival over a few days to brighten a dark time of year.

GladbagsGold Thu 01-Aug-13 13:38:50

Don't feel sorry for me. I love Christmas. I love summer. I love planning. I am sooooooo in my element right now smile

PeanutButterMmm Thu 01-Aug-13 14:22:23

I do agree about the clutter. All those little £2 bits of tat that will be looked at for 2 seconds then tossed aside all so children think and come to expect they must have more and more.

I do a small stocking with 5 or 6 things in which are either useful, keepsake or edible. Stuff that won't be tossed aside or left to clutter up the bedroom and be thrown out later on. It also means they don't expect too much and appreciate things more. All this "must buy and build up the £2 crap now" is just so meh.

Make christmas more about being with family with nice food and a few presents is what I say. All this build up and panic buying in july is taking the joy out of something that you can choose to make a lighthearted holiday.

If it feels onerous then by all means leave christmas until later in the year. I am enjoying planning my christmas now, and I dislike shopping in december. Each to their own, what harm does it do?

And why have a thread to slate people doing what they want to do when it doesn't negatively effect others?

Arisbottle Thu 01-Aug-13 15:13:42

I think the over commercialisation of Christmas and the pressure to have a perfect day does impact others.

KellyElly Thu 01-Aug-13 16:32:23

It's too hot to think about Christmas! I have thought about it financially though to be fair.

fuzzpig Thu 01-Aug-13 17:17:20

But it's not Spending 6 months planning - it's not like people are devoting all their time to it, anymore than people posting on say the pushchairs board spend all their time thinking about pushchairs and nothing else confused

Tis just a bit of fun.

TeWiSavesTheDay Thu 01-Aug-13 17:37:12

Just because people are thinking about it now doesn't mean they're buying masses of 2 pound tat. I tend to have stockings with a few useful things in them too, which means I have certain things in mind I'm looking out for and I want them at the best possible price.

If I can have the same stocking contents for £10 rather than £25 at RRP by looking out for bits in July instead of December then I think I'd be daft not to give it a go!

needaholidaynow Thu 01-Aug-13 18:05:14

Why do some of you not grasp that even the cost of buying a few gifts and a turkey is a LOT to some people. That to even give your closest loved ones one modest gift might take a lot of a persons income, so they need to spread out the cost.

Well said. What's wrong with planning ahead??

Arisbottle Thu 01-Aug-13 18:07:12

I think people said they understood the need to save.

Allthingspretty Thu 01-Aug-13 18:29:22

Ybu
It pays to get bargains in the sale and means that you can enjoy Christmas without as much hastle.

trixymalixy Thu 01-Aug-13 18:36:03

I'm not buying £2 bits of tat. I'm buying quality stuff when I see it on offer e.g. Melissa and doug wooden stamp set RRP £10 for £2 that DD will love.

marriedinwhiteisback Thu 01-Aug-13 18:38:06

35 degrees here, on the terrace, glass of wine. Loving this thread - remembers the few bits I bought reduced by 80% for dd's stocking on about 27th Dec last year!! Makes note to order xmas cards when we get home and check date of carol concert with vic because I always do the mulled wine and mince pies afterwards smile

jeanmiguelfangio Thu 01-Aug-13 18:57:35

I have nearly finished my Christmas shopping, I have to budget so I tend to get most of it in the summer sales. People don't know any different and it means I can afford meaningful gifts that people love. I also buy my brother sheet music in charity shops so you have to look all year for that. I also buy a new board game every year in a charity shop for a bit of fun, can't really afford a brand new one

Murtette Thu 01-Aug-13 20:09:25

If I do the bulk of my buying over the course of the next few months, I have the pleasure of spending Christmas weekends doing lovely Christmassy things with the DC or friends & spending my evenings cooking & baking rather than having to elbow my way around shops in a panic trying to find something, anything that X person may like and getting caught up in the general Christmas frenzy. I find I feel sucked into the commercialisation of Christmas if I start to think about it now.

trixymalixy Thu 01-Aug-13 21:33:37

Same here Murtette. I can't bear being up late on Xmas eve frantically wrapping presents like we did one year. Never again! I like to have it done in advance and have a nice relaxed Xmas eve.

Arisbottle Fri 02-Aug-13 09:00:19

Even if you shop on Christmas Eve the shops close at 4pm. I have more children than most and I like wrapping presents so go over board but even I only take about an hour to wrap my gifts.

fuzzpig Fri 02-Aug-13 09:02:39

I don't like shopping in December either - social anxiety doesn't mix well with a crowded mall!

Dillydollydaydream Fri 02-Aug-13 09:05:17

I can't entertain Christmas until at least September but that's mainly because my 3dc birthdays are july/aug/aug so have lots of expenditure then with birthday presents, parties and uniforms. When they're all out of the way then it's Christmas planning.

fuzzpig Fri 02-Aug-13 09:06:41

I normally wrap throughout December (I don't do it earlier anymore as I found it got rather the worse for wear after being in the cupboard so long) but like to have it done before Xmas eve. Last year DH and I spent that night building the playmobil (has to be last minute as nowhere to hide it when built) and arranging all the figures round it, while drinking baileys and watching Wite Christmas, it was fab!

NuggetofPurestGreen Fri 02-Aug-13 09:19:35

I think the over commercialisation of Christmas and the pressure to have a perfect day does impact others.

Agree Arisbottle. I hate this about Christmas too. But I'm a total bah humbug anyway.

BiddyPop Fri 02-Aug-13 09:25:15

DD wants to do a specific trip that she has done twice before but it is extrememly popular and I missed booking the tickets last year (I ration it to every second year - but when I looked for tickets in August they had sold out in July). So this year, I am looking out for the day they go on sale so I don't miss them again. It's not that expensive, but just special and magical, and DH and I enjoyed it too.

So things like that NEED to be planned in advance.

And then there are all the other things I want to have organised - it's as much about having a plan in my head and knowing about organisations to be in touch with, what their deadlines are, what their requirements are and so on.

Having a list of different activities to keep DD busy during the month (which is very busy workwise as it happens, I have some small relief over the summer). Things that are important to do - like cleaning out old broken toys, making sure we have nice clothes to wear for different occasions (not just tracksuits which she'd live in!), and giving her some time and space and the materials to make cards for her cousins and granparents. Making sure i know where there are carol services and when. And what other things we can do in the spirit of Christmas, the birth of Christ, as well as just family fun things.

All of these things take planning. Quite apart from shopping for the multitudes (large family on both sides), making sure I have things packed for travelling or have rooms ready for guests (or both!), and keeping on top of the housework (as I said, it's a very busy time at work) and having fun things for when DH is at home (he spends a lot of time travelling so I need to schedule some things for his time here).

And at the same time, I want to make sure that, despite the chaos of the Christmas season (work, festivities, organisation etc), that there is some space in there for ME - to unwind, relax and enjoy the season too. Family issues can cause plenty of traumas (it's a big one with some members being very well able to be particularly hurtful and prevent anyone else from enjoying anything fun), and I need to make sure I have time to retreat from it all. I need to make sure that we have things to keep DD occupied and also that we have a plan for everything we do and ways to leave if we are having problems (DD has aspergers and ADHD so can get very overwhelmed even at things that she is really looking forward to), and make sure I am choosing things that will be less troublesome in terms of her sensitivities to noise and light, or that we have breaks built into events so that she can go to and enjoy some of the things that most other kids would enjoy.

So if I need to work around all of those issues, perhaps you can understand why early planning is needed. Quite apart from budgeting (and while I am lucky to afford a reasonable Christmas for all, I am not made of money and need to get good value - as well as trying to get something that is meaningful for the recipient) and purchasing aspects.

But luckily, there is a great bunch of like-minded people on the Christmas board who think about similar issues. Away from the main traffic and not imposing themselves on everyone else who is not yet ready for it. While at the same time, trying to live with the spirit of Christmas in their hearts all year round.

Arisbottle Fri 02-Aug-13 09:31:31

I am not bah humbug about Christmas, although I am not particularly religious it is one of my favourite times of the year. We decorate the house and the garden, I judge a decorating competition in the village that we live in, we tend to have a house full and I start cooking in September - although I spend a lot of time in the kitchen all year anyway.

I just don't understand the piles of presents that need buying months in advance.

AwwCrumpets Fri 02-Aug-13 09:32:58

Last year I had my dd Xmas all bought in September at little cost and bought little bits for relatives.
I regretted getting my dd so much so this year iv picked four things that I know she will play with like arts and crafts materials which is mega cheap on eBay and I could actually make a crafts hampers for my nieces and nephews so win win as there's 4 of them and I don't know their tastes.

All four things I will be looking on eBay for as she is still so young she won't know the difference if its 2nd hand or not,as long as its boxed/wrapped and good as new.
I picked up a elc cash register for £2 out charity shop it works and I know she will love it just for the microphone on it.

I started planning last week but I'm really only buying for children this year and won't be having Xmas dinner at my house.

fuzzpig Fri 02-Aug-13 09:46:11

Buying in advance doesn't necessarily mean huge piles of presents. For me, it gets the present bit out of the way and I can choose something really ideal (I tend to panic and overbuy if I'm surrounded by huge stressed out crowds, due to above mentioned social anxiety), so December is left for crafty stuff, decorating, watching movies and cooking.

I totally agree there is too much pressure on people to be perfect at Xmas, I used to really feel this. Xmas was awful as a child and I always dreaded it, so I wanted to make it better for my DCs. I am a lot happier since realising that it doesn't have to be perfect to be a happy Xmas. smile

jenniferalisonphillipasue Fri 02-Aug-13 09:47:24

Yabu

I have 4 dc's under 8 and a large family. They all get nice gifts rather than tat as I buy them in the sales. They would have tat if it was left until December. The whole build up to Christmas in December is manic with children (school plays, carols etc) that if I wasn't organised now it would be very stressful.

Hide the thread if your not interested.

AnneEyhtMeyer Fri 02-Aug-13 10:00:25

For me, buying early doesn't mean buying lots, it means buying well. Each present I buy is well thought out and usually but not always bought whilst on offer. When I have left it until December I have panic-bought a lot of crap. Buying early works for me.

I like spending December doing fun festive things rather than trawling around the shops.

Capitola Fri 02-Aug-13 10:10:29

I love Christmas but in my life, all talk, preparation and thinking of it is banned until 1 December.

50shadesofknackered Fri 02-Aug-13 12:09:02

I love talking about and planning christmas so I love the christmas threads. Why do you care? This is the only christmas thread I have seen outside of the christmas topic and its started by someone that thinks that the people talking about christmas in July need to get a life confused I wouldn't talk about christmas in Chat or AIBU because I know that lots of people aren't interested. Maybe you should stop wasting your life by reading threads that are of no interest to you!
(Wow! You can tell I love Christmas, I used the word about 10 times in one post)

differentnameforthis Fri 02-Aug-13 13:19:31

Perhaps it is you that needs to get a life, op? Surely people can comment on what they like & if you don't like it or it offends you, don't join in.

We have something called Christmas in July here in Australia. People celebrate Christmas at this time of year because it is cold & darker as it is winter, which is when Christmas traditionally is. Not ion the baking 40 degree heat of our summer Decembers. I know a couple of families who do it, some places even do fake snow, and restaurants do Christmas in July dining specials. And yes, they go all out, tree, decs etc.

I don't do it. But equally, I don't get offended by it either.

PeanutButterMmm Fri 02-Aug-13 20:51:14

Just because someone doesn't do their christmas shopping in july doesn't mean they leave it until december so I do not get it when people are saying "i have to start now because december is too busy" hmm

I don't start mine now nor do I leave it until december. It is always either black or white on mn.

PeanutButterMmm Fri 02-Aug-13 21:03:19

I have never started christmas shopping before september is out and rarely ever pay full rrp for anything related to christmas or presents. Nowadays everywhere has offers and sales as well as online being cheaper. In fact I have bought things in november in a sale only to find it cheaper still in december. Some things are worth waiting to buy later as these days shops are so keen to get custom away from online they discount things heavily in november and december.

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