to think my dh is trying to starve me?

(138 Posts)
superbagpuss Mon 29-Jul-13 19:08:17

today in my packed lunch

half a sandwich
bag of hula hoops
small tangerine
tiny twix

for dinner

one veggie burger
two scoops veggie and potato mash

this was the same size portion as DT age 4

I know I'm an adult and can buy/ cook my own food but wondered if I'm being greedy? is that another food for an adult?

Anniegetyourgun Mon 29-Jul-13 19:10:44

Those aren't meals, they're snacks.

Ezio Mon 29-Jul-13 19:11:06

that seems pretty normal for an adult, plus small portions mean small waist.

I think that was probably meant to be a snack and you were meant to buy lunch? The dinner is just an appetiser? There must be more to come.

I'd be faint and wobbly on those portions. How much does he eat himself?

Half a sandwich?! Who the fuck eats half a sandwich?!

maja00 Mon 29-Jul-13 19:13:12

Did he get yours and your 4 year olds' lunch boxes mixed up?

What did he have for dinner?

Onesleeptillwembley Mon 29-Jul-13 19:13:23

Really, Ezio? glad I don't live at yours. shock

Maybe he's nicking your food as he prepares it. I do it to OH.

I don't get the half a sandwich, what happened to the other half?

TeWiSavesTheDay Mon 29-Jul-13 19:14:47

A bit small, but not by loads. Most people eat too much.

You need to talk to your partner about why though, not us!

80sMum Mon 29-Jul-13 19:15:22

I would cut out the hula hoops and the Twix and replace them with something like yogurt, or small pot of bean salad or similar. Half a sandwich should be whole sandwich.
Evening meal should have more vegetables.

Ezio Mon 29-Jul-13 19:15:31

Onesleep Im on slimming world, small and make every morsel count, i have chocolate in my fridge i cant touch, stupid unwanted fat.

<gets in a strop>

Anniegetyourgun Mon 29-Jul-13 19:15:34

<wonders if Ezio is the OP's DH>

LifeIsSoDifferent Mon 29-Jul-13 19:16:03

shock half a sandwich?

I agree that this must be a starter and the main and pudding will follow soon

SpooMoo Mon 29-Jul-13 19:16:06

Your lunchbox sounds like a kid's lunch - not enough for an adult!

Anniegetyourgun Mon 29-Jul-13 19:16:10

oh, sorry, xpost grin

superbagpuss Mon 29-Jul-13 19:17:37

I didn't know if it was a lot and I was being greedy, I don't have a great relationship with food

half sandwich was one piece of bread folded over, could be as low on bread and I would want DT fed first

he had more mash then me at dinner but he doesn't eat a huge amount. I weigh more than him and always have done

I do have the option to buy food at work but we are on an economy drive at present

thebody Mon 29-Jul-13 19:18:39

if your in a diet maybe he thinks he's supporting you.

you know eat less excercise more! 😃😃

pointythings Mon 29-Jul-13 19:18:53

Not enough. Go for a whole sandwich, stuffed silly with delicious salady bits as well as some lean protein. Lose the Twix and have a yogurt instead, replace the Hula Hoops with some home made pita chips.

A veggie burger is fine for dinner, but have the mash on its own and then load up on salad or other vegetables. You should be eating somewhat more than your 4yo (though obviously not twice as much).

superbagpuss Mon 29-Jul-13 19:19:02

80smum I can't take yogurts to work as no fridge
the crisps and mini twix were a treat, normally don't have them at all

superbagpuss Mon 29-Jul-13 19:20:02

thanks pointythings but duh had already made dinner for me for when I got in so I had no say in what I had

Onesleeptillwembley Mon 29-Jul-13 19:20:09

Because you're on a diet and would be ok with that doesn't make it normal for most people, Ezo.

EndoplasmicReticulum Mon 29-Jul-13 19:20:09

That wouldn't keep me from the biscuit tin. I need a whole sandwich.

Was the veggie burger in a bun? Dinner might be OK if so, but I'd want some actual veggies with it too. And pudding.

passmetheprozac Mon 29-Jul-13 19:20:19

Were you full on these portions? What sort of work do you do? It really depends.

Ezio Mon 29-Jul-13 19:22:52

Maybe im tight for portion control Onesleep, on the otherhand that would be a crumb to my stepdad.

Food mountains are the norm on xmas day.

superbagpuss Mon 29-Jul-13 19:23:34

I sit at a desk all day
I also ate - breakfast bar, more dried fruit and half a flapjack - other half saved for tomorrow

I am always hungry so not a great barometer of portion size

diddl Mon 29-Jul-13 19:23:36

I find the half a sandwich odd, but that's all tbh.

What do you think you should have had?

formicadinosaur Mon 29-Jul-13 19:23:43

i had a sandwich ( 2 slices of bread) and a piece of fruit. No unhealthy treats. No idea what other people have.

itsonlysubterfuge Mon 29-Jul-13 19:24:12

When my husband was on a economy drive, he stopped eating. He made a fortune!

Onesleeptillwembley Mon 29-Jul-13 19:24:29

Yes, food mountains are for Christmas, but a normal meal is for everyday. Under no circumstances would they be considered normal by most people, as you can see from this thread.

Pumpkinnose Mon 29-Jul-13 19:25:57

I think given the other snacks you ate though that would be plenty for a day at a desk though?

lljkk Mon 29-Jul-13 19:26:00

Most adult women I know wouldn't eat more than that.
Okay, not in public, anyway.

itsonlysubterfuge Mon 29-Jul-13 19:26:19

For lunch I have two slices of bread and a few slices of ham or two eggs, I find this filling. I do sometimes have some crisps as well.

superbagpuss Mon 29-Jul-13 19:26:30

fair enough, so it was enough, it just didn't look that much

pointythings Mon 29-Jul-13 19:27:49

OP, when you wrote 'duh' for 'DH' was that a subconscious typo?

I'd be stocking up on salad leaves and piling them in the fridge to bulk out the silly meals your DH makes you if this is turning into a pattern.

I have a sandwich (2 slices) for lunch most days, no treats on the side, and have been portion controlling dinner by eating lots of veg and not having any second helpings any more, but taking all the enjoyment out of meals isn't a good way to manage food IMO.

thebody Mon 29-Jul-13 19:28:40

personally of you want to ditch the weight then cut out the bread and chocolate/ hoops.

make your own huge plastic bowl of salad, leaves, toms, cucumber, beet root. load up on fruit.

evening protein, meat or fish and loads of veg.

evening cycle or walk/jog.

tons of water.

go for it.

Alconleigh Mon 29-Jul-13 19:29:03

I have a cooked lunch from our canteen most days. Today was roast chicken, roast baby new pots and carrots. I don't eat bread, but even if I did I would be rav by 3pm if all I had was a sandwich and some crisps etc for lunch. On the other hand I often have a v light dinner, on account of the big lunch.

superbagpuss Mon 29-Jul-13 19:29:16

pointy things it was an autocorrect I didn't catch
I should eat more salad and veg, and normally do but today it wasn't cooked for me

I like the fact no one told me to make my own lunch, cook my own tea. grin

TeWiSavesTheDay Mon 29-Jul-13 19:30:36

I would tot up the calories of everything you ate today and then decide

Personally, I would think an adult needs 2 slices of bread for lunch and that there should have been lots of veg with dinner - but it probably wasn't far off.

superbagpuss Mon 29-Jul-13 19:30:55

the body
thanks but I'm not actively trying to lose weight - unless dh is hinting I should - I've gone from not eating at all to over eating over the years so have completely screwed my own judgement

TeWiSavesTheDay Mon 29-Jul-13 19:32:56

I think it was really nice he made your lunch BTW...grin I don't know anyone who makes their partners packed lunch!

maja00 Mon 29-Jul-13 19:33:56

I'd probably have two slices of bread and a decent filling (tuna mayo or ham and cheese) for the sandwich, and just the fruit for lunch.

I would want more for dinner though - some other veg with it.

TeWiSavesTheDay Mon 29-Jul-13 19:33:56

Please, don't do the calories if you'll get stressed about it!

plecofjustice Mon 29-Jul-13 19:34:47

Well, your lunch was 446 calories according to my calculations, which is quite a lot for lunch, in my opinion. Most of that was the hula hoops - get rid and put some meaningful calories in their place.

It all depends on your build and BMR/TDEE really.

TheRealFellatio Mon 29-Jul-13 19:35:23

The dinner sounds ok but what's with the half a sandwich? confused

NoComet Mon 29-Jul-13 19:40:11

Your DH has obviously been feeding my DD2 recently. She's 12 not 4, but has always lived on toddler portions.
(Supplemented by copious amounts of yoghurt, ice cream and the occasional glass of coke).

She just finds food and eating boring and manages to race about trampolining and doing all manner of sports clubs on less calories than a normal person needs to stay still.

LondonMother Mon 29-Jul-13 19:41:46

Alconleigh, I'd be surprised if a sandwich (two slices of bread) and a packet of crisps wasn't about the same calories as roast chicken, roast potatoes and carrots.

superbagpuss Mon 29-Jul-13 19:43:43

plecofisco so in all I've eaten about 1200 calories today, I guess I'm on a weight loss diet whether I want to or not hmm

superbagpuss Mon 29-Jul-13 19:44:55

plecofjustice sorry blush

MammaTJ Mon 29-Jul-13 19:45:55

Ezio I am on slimming world too and eat loads! It is not the amount you eat, but the food you eat that matters! You make it sound like a miserable existence and it isn't!

There are loads of 'free' foods, that is foods you can eat as much as you like of, that should be the staple of your intake! You can even have some of that chocolate if you want it! I am having a bottle of wine tonight as I prefer that to choc!

OP, he is indeed trying to starve you! What did he have to eat himself!

zipzap Mon 29-Jul-13 19:46:25

Depends how much is he giving himself?

If it's the same then it's very different from serving up a much bigger portion for himself...

scottishmummy Mon 29-Jul-13 19:48:11

If you're so worried make your own lunch or supplement with something else

maja00 Mon 29-Jul-13 19:48:27

1200 is definitely weight loss amounts. 1500-1800 is more like normal I think.

Blimey, I'd have eaten that lot by lunch time. I'm 6' tall and pregnant though, so probably not the best example (scarily high TDEE atm). I also tend to avoid bread for lunch as I always feel hungry again an hour later. Salads for me, bit of rice/cous cous, lots of lettuce and veg, with a good portion of chicken, ham, eggs etc. Then either some fruit or a chocolate bar (if no rice). Before that I'll have had 2 breakfasts though, and probably snacked on fruit.

So no, certainly not enough food for this adult, not unless the aim was to make me start eating the furniture! grin

FWIW 1200 calories a day wouldn't make me lose weight, it would make me ill. When I start slimming back down again, I will probably be on around 2600 cals of clean nutrious food (lean protein, tons of veg, and full fat dairy), plus extra to cover any excessive calories burnt through work outs.

GettingVerySleepy Mon 29-Jul-13 19:59:30

Looks like a normal lunch to me. I would have had a whole sandwich rather than a half, but no hula hoops or twin, just a sandwich and fruit. Lately I've been having those m&s "fuller longer" salad things with stuff like salmon and couscous and beans in them. About the same calories as a sandwich but as the name suggests really do keep me full enough til dinner. Bloody expensive, though.

Talkinpeace Mon 29-Jul-13 20:00:06

my normal lunch is a single slice of bread sandwich and a piece of fruit
no chocolate, no crisps

I don't snack. Ever.

Suppers are larger, but I aim for around 1000 calories all up

most people eat far more than is good for them

pointythings Mon 29-Jul-13 20:03:49

OP, if your DH is hinting that he wants you to lose weight by giving you tiny portions then that's a bad thing to do - very patronising and passive-aggressive of him. Would you feel up to asking him whether that is what he's trying to do? Because it's seriously going to backfire. I certainly wouldn't put up with it.

Talkin 1000 calories is way below normal recommended intake for an adult woman. You may feel good and do well on so little food, but that doesn't mean it is good for others.

DontmindifIdo Mon 29-Jul-13 20:03:59

Another one saying that sounds fine for a day, other than needing perhaps another scoop of mash and a second piece of fruit in the day. Add it with the snacks you had today, that sounds about right. however, you need to have a better breakfast.

ZingWidge Mon 29-Jul-13 20:05:46

all I can add is that half a sandwich is called a HalfWidge.

(all rights reserved)

Talkinpeace Mon 29-Jul-13 20:06:09

dinner is 1000 calories - lunch is around 400 - my TDEE is 1500 calories
it works for me and I'm not losing weight.
At the weekend I supplement it with wine calories ....

Onesleeptillwembley Mon 29-Jul-13 20:11:09

Zing gringringringringrin

pointythings Mon 29-Jul-13 20:13:00

OK, talkin - misunderstood you. That sounds pretty sensible.

It's interesting - I've just calculated mine with brutal honesty and it explains why I've been very slowly losing weight since I stopped the second portion thing and started filling up on veg - now to limit the wine calories on weekends...

That sounds absolutely fine.
I have "half" a sandwich for lunch, possibly with some veg or salad on the side (depending on what is in sandwhich).
Never crisps or chocolate though.

Dinner sounds completely normal - a burger, mash and some vegetables. How much more would you have wanted???

Talkinpeace Mon 29-Jul-13 20:19:08

I do also fast (500 calories) 2 days a week - which leave space for that extra glass of something at the weekend ...

the basic meals are small, but the snacks with which you supplement them bring your intake up to around 1900 a day.
What is your TDEE?

JamieandtheMagicTorch Mon 29-Jul-13 20:21:14

That doesn't sound like too small a portion to me.

I think lots of people over-eat

ZingWidge Mon 29-Jul-13 20:37:20

btw you should all feel free to use the term HalfWidge.

wink @ onesleep

superbagpuss Mon 29-Jul-13 20:38:29

can I add again - the choc and crisps were an unexpected treat

I eat choc once or twice a month

have just downloaded a calorie counter and discovered I have eaten 1128 calories today so not near the recommended amount and at 10 stone my bmi is fine

asked dh about the half sandwich - it was a lack of bread issue

he's not making lunch for me tomorrow as there is nothing in

I'm never sure what to do about breakfasts. I leave house at 7 so no time to eat first as its too early. no kettle, microwave or kitchen at work and food outside my budget so I am either having a piece of fruit or breakfast bars which I know aren't the healthiest things around

SoftKittyWarmKitty Mon 29-Jul-13 20:40:36

Have you asked him why he didn't give you enough? Tomorrow, make your own then you can control what's in it. Nothing worse than being at work all day and not having enough to eat.

superbagpuss Mon 29-Jul-13 20:41:11

talkinpeace what's a TDEE?

Talkinpeace Mon 29-Jul-13 20:46:34

TDEE is "Total Daily Energy Expenditure" - it gives the right amount of calories to aim at for your height, weight, age, sex and activity levels ....
calculator here

as the 2000 on the side of the cereal box is based on a 1950's woman doing housework all day without a washing machine, vacuum cleaner, dishwasher etc etc
it therefore overestimates how much the vast majority of women need to eat ....

SoftKittyWarmKitty Mon 29-Jul-13 20:46:43

Cross posted smile. Right, you/DH (whoever does shopping) have to plan ahead so you have enough of the basics in, like bread. If you don't have enough bread in, could you do a salad instead?

Breakfast-wise, fruit is fine - you could always take a yogurt too. Or get up 10 mins earlier and have something before you leave.

If there's nothing in and you're on an economy drive, does that mean you'll have no lunch tomorrow?

Can we swap husbands? Mine cooks most of our meals, but he's such a bloody feeder!

superbagpuss Mon 29-Jul-13 20:51:58

BMR 1448
tdee 1737

hope that means something to some one

soft kitty - I have emergency packet soup in my work drawer, just have to pay for hot water

and dh has just become a sahd , I'm trying not to micro manage him too much and letting him find his own way

sleepdodger Mon 29-Jul-13 20:55:00

I think that's normal
I am size 10 and 5'5
During week usually breakfast is banana
No lunch
Large coffee like skinny latte
Proper cooked dinner ir tonight was lasagne and loads of green veg
Then I'll often everyday have a bar of chocolate whilst watching tv

BringBackBod Mon 29-Jul-13 20:55:20

I would replace the tiny twix with a proper size twix bar.

Talkinpeace Mon 29-Jul-13 20:58:18

BMR = Base Metabolic rate : the number of calories you'd burn if you lay in bed all day
TDEE = the number of calories your body needs to stay at your current weight. Eat more than that and you gain weight, less and you lose.

To put that into real terms, 1737 is roughly
tea and a yoghurt for breakfast
a halfwich filled with tuna or ham (not cheese) and salad and a couple of pieces of fruit for lunch
unlimited tea and coffee during the day
a vegeburger, plenty of veg and then fruit or yoghurt for pudding and maybe a very small glass of wine or a couple of squares of chocolate
no snacks

superbagpuss Mon 29-Jul-13 21:00:19

talk in peace
thank you for a very detailed answer
I don't eat meat, so if cheese is bad I guess I need to cut out the sandwiches? normally I use packet soups to fill up and lose weight

Talkinpeace Mon 29-Jul-13 21:06:52

If you are not a meat person, you are probably better ditching the sandwiches - as cheese is (wonderful but) a killer!

A tupperware box with lots and lots of strips of veg - carrots, peppers, cherry tomatoes, courgette and then a tub of hummus to dip them all in - will take you ages to eat, be really good for you and is surprisingly cheap if you fix all the veg yourselves
and maybe a hard boiled egg or two

Packet soups are really high in salt and hidden sugars .... a thermos of real soup taken from home is a good alternative

another option is to make up your own veggie / vegan pates for in sandwiches (Rose Elliott books had them)

thebody Mon 29-Jul-13 21:07:26

really sorry super, thought you were at slimming world but was another poster!

I just know that if I cut out carbs it drops off. also drinking water is great.

ZingWidge Mon 29-Jul-13 21:07:30


widge, please smile

it's always a widge.

and so on

even cakewidge

WorraLiberty Mon 29-Jul-13 21:10:34

That'd be fine for me OP

But I'd probably want a whole sandwich

pointythings Mon 29-Jul-13 21:11:09

talkin is that tea with milk and/or sugar? What difference does having everything black with no sugar make, if any?

OP, roast vegetables are lovely in sandwiches and can be bulk made in advance. If you use a few interesting spices, you will only need the tiniest smudge of olive oil to make them delicious, and you can then top up with leaves and tomatoes for crunch. You can use wraps for variety.

frillyflower Mon 29-Jul-13 21:16:10

I often have a halfwitch for breakfast and the other half for lunch. So today half a pret smoked salmon sandwich for breakfast and the rest for lunch. Bit of fruit and couple of squares of dark chocolate.

Dinner was roast halibut with spinach and 4 small boiled potatoes plus small glass of red wine.

I am not on a diet. That's a normal day's food.

MissDuke Mon 29-Jul-13 21:17:01

Op, I think you are being unfair to dh. Surely you could have got more food yourself at some point today? You say you never eat chocolate, so it is clear he was being thoughtful by giving you a treat to make up for the half-cheesewidge (Is that right Zing?)

Have a really decent brekkie, preferably involving eggs, to get yourself off to a good start!

slightlysoupstained Mon 29-Jul-13 21:29:41

Am a bit puzzled by the TDEE thing - surely if most women aren't doing enough physical activity to warrant eating 2000 calories a day, the most healthy thing to do is not to eat less, but to be more active, somehow?

Is it just because it's harder to find time for more physical activity than it is to eat less?

ZingWidge Mon 29-Jul-13 21:34:00


yes, that is acceptablegrin

but a halfwitch is just scary frills please don't say that again!
I do not like the idea of an incomplete flying cackling creature!


Talkinpeace Mon 29-Jul-13 21:35:11

the 2000 is for somebody my height (5'5") .... anybody shorter needs less
Also people drastically overestimate the calories they burn through exercise. If I have a real gym week, and adjust my TDEE accordingly, it rises to the grand total of 1950 (that is with swimming five miles and doing 8 hours of yoga / gym classes PER WEEK)
Cutting out the odd meal (I never eat breakfast) is much easier.

WafflyVersatile Mon 29-Jul-13 21:35:34

Pret a Manger sell half sandwiches.

Talkinpeace Mon 29-Jul-13 21:37:00

cakewidge --- is that half a cake grin

WafflyVersatile Mon 29-Jul-13 21:41:16

sorry that should be halfwidges.

ZingWidge Mon 29-Jul-13 21:42:14

cakewidge is


WafflyVersatile Mon 29-Jul-13 21:42:19


A cakewidge would be:




Of course any decent widge should be





eurochick Mon 29-Jul-13 21:42:30

I think it was a bit light on calories overall and not very filling (the lunch in particular).

There are a lot of things you could substitute for the calories in the Hula Hoops and the Twix that would fill you up a lot more.

WafflyVersatile Mon 29-Jul-13 21:43:34

This is why I am fat.

I don't want to get by on a halfwidge, some carrot batons and chocolate counted in squares.

ZingWidge Mon 29-Jul-13 21:44:42

thanks waffly

<shamelessly monopolising thread to obsess over any widge related matters>

ThirtyLove Mon 29-Jul-13 21:45:09

Your lunchbox sounds lovely, I'd be well happy with that... Especially the Twix.

WafflyVersatile Mon 29-Jul-13 21:45:57

Have you checked what the four year old had in her packed lunch?

She might have gotten


and have a very sore, bloated tummy and detention for being drunk and disorderly.

ZingWidge Mon 29-Jul-13 21:47:20

when on a diet chocolate is only allowed in the form of choc chips.

one tiny piece 3-5 times a day. little pills of happiness.

tabulahrasa Mon 29-Jul-13 21:47:23

I'm a bit hmm at the fact that it's the same portion size as a 4 yr old's...

If people think that's enough food for a grown woman - then surely it's way too much for a 4 yr old? Somebody's portion is wrong somewhere, surely? (personally I think it's yours, but either way, one of them is wrong)

ZingWidge Mon 29-Jul-13 21:48:35

A+ waffly you are a good and eager student!

racingheart Mon 29-Jul-13 21:51:10

Talkinpeace I'm amazed at your estimates. On MFP the food you've listed would come in at around 1200, not 1700 unless you put lashings of butter or mayo on the sandwich. Or unless unlimited tea and coffee means about ten cups.

On MFP on a 1200 cal day I have fruit for breakfast, a big salad with some protein for lunch and a small, healthy main meal including carbs, with lots of teas and coffees. Another 500 cals would allow quite a lot more carbs.

racingheart Mon 29-Jul-13 21:52:58

Meant to say, I mean amazed at the estimates as in - I wonder if I've been getting mine wrong and under-estimating. I am losing weight but fairly slowly.

purrpurr Mon 29-Jul-13 21:54:55

Oh Zing, your widge-based exuberance has really made me giggle this evening, thank you very much :D

frillyflower Mon 29-Jul-13 21:59:53

Yes Pret sell halfwidges (sorry about the witch thing). But I buy a whole widge and divide between meals.

Small meals are the way to go IMO. Then you don't have to either starve or spend all day doing Zumba.

ihearsounds Mon 29-Jul-13 22:08:03

Wouldn't say he is trying to starve you. Instead he's sending you on a carb overload, so you will be feeling hungry when you shouldn't really be, because realistically with less carbs and fat you would have eaten enough.

Talkinpeace Mon 29-Jul-13 22:08:22

ah, yes, my tea habit : 2/3 of a pint of milk a day = 100 calories

a decent slice of giraffe bread = 100 calories
a spoonful of mayo = 30 calories
2 slices of ham = 200 calories
spoonful of chutney = 30 calories
banana = 80 calories

pasta at supper = 300 calories
meat or fish = 300 calories
vegetables = 100 calories
sauce / cheese = 300 calories
fruit for pudding = 100 calories

to stay slim you have to underestimate your exercise calories and overestimate your food calories ..... then you have leeway for weekend wine

WildThongsHeartString Mon 29-Jul-13 22:21:14

I'm shock at a DH making a packed lunch! We have been together 17 years and NEVER not once has my dh even offered to make my lunch. I make his every single night.

<wanders off muttering to self>

WildThongsHeartString Mon 29-Jul-13 22:21:53

And dinner!

Fuck sake...

ZingWidge Mon 29-Jul-13 22:23:54


I'm glad!

I tend not to joke about people's usernames, but yours just begs the question : do you like purrwidge?grin grin grin

Talkinpeace Mon 29-Jul-13 22:28:36

Wildthongs OP mentioned up thread that her DH is currently a house husband. I think its really sweet that he makes her a lunch ... they just need to agree on the content grin

pooka Mon 29-Jul-13 22:31:06

The lunch would be enough for me. Though I'd rather have a whole sandwich and not the hula hoops or the crisps.

The dinner is a bit sparse. Maybe 2 veggie burgers would do it. Extra green veg too.

purrpurr Mon 29-Jul-13 22:32:23

Zing! Ha. I officially luffs you! I had purrwidge for my tea. You'd think from everything this message contains that I am roughly twelve years old, but I'm at least double that.

racingheart Mon 29-Jul-13 22:36:16

Talking - aha - that's naice ham you're listing. I should have known. The kind of ham I occasionally buy (don't really like ham) is about 30 cals a slice. Full of water and salt and no pig.

StuntGirl Mon 29-Jul-13 22:41:42

Well aside from the half a sandwich it sounds fine to me. (The chocolate and crisps I guess are because of the half a sandwich then?)

I'd have added a load of veg to the dinner but yeah, sounds ok to me.

What would you have had instead of that's not enough for you?

Talkinpeace Mon 29-Jul-13 22:41:49

yup, I don't eat much, but what I do eat I try to have naice quality - perk of my 'little job' - shopping in Waitrose wink

ZingWidge Mon 29-Jul-13 23:16:26

purr I ♡ you back!

I love purrwidge with maple syrup in the morning. Sometimes I add ground almonds to it.

btw you should totally namechange to PurrWidge grin

slightlysoupstained Mon 29-Jul-13 23:26:05

I'd happily eat twice that lunch & dinner. Starting to realise why I always always got comments in breakroom about the size of my lunch when I worked in a mostly female workplace.

frillyflower Tue 30-Jul-13 06:27:58

I agree that people seem to underestimate size of portions they are having. I went back home to see my family recently and ate with DB family. Struggled to eat the mammoth amounts of food but everyone else just thought it normal - and that included one person on invalid portion as recovering from major illness.

Invalid portion would be 2 days food in my house!

When I lived at home I was quite fat! Was delicious of course but I prefer the halfwitch manner of eating and smaller clothes sizes!

ZillionChocolate Tue 30-Jul-13 07:01:04

OP if there's no fridge at work, could you get a little cool bag and the freezer block cool packs? If it's hot weather, (part) freezing your drink might also be an option, as it'll defrost during the morning.

fridge porridge (purrwidge?) for breakfast! Can't link as I'm on my phone, but it's basically oats, natural yoghurt, tiny bit of milk, and flavours, all shaken up in a jar. Make it the night before and keep in the fridge. flavours can be fruit, ground linseeds, cocoa, peanut butter, ground almonds, maple syrup etc. You can even make a batch for the week and just add fresh fruit the night before. Tasty, healthy and filling.

MammaTJ Tue 30-Jul-13 08:20:59

Mugshots are good and filling for lunch, as a better than packet soup option. The sweet and sour one is lovely. Quite chocked you have to pay for hot water though.

purrpurr Tue 30-Jul-13 08:37:06

MrsMango that sounds lovely!

superbagpuss Tue 30-Jul-13 17:40:00

thank you for all the ideas

I had no packed lunch today and ended up eating a lot less as chained to my desk sad

still looking forward to dinner, no ideas what it might be as DC have already eaten - sometimes I get dinner cooked to order grin

alreadytaken Tue 30-Jul-13 18:00:31

dinner sounds rather mean, some extra vegetable would have made it fine. For lunch I'd have a whole sandwich, fruit but not the snacks. Sounds like he was low on bread and bulked it out with junk. A mixed salad with the half sandwich would have been both healthier and more filling.

GettingVerySleepy Tue 30-Jul-13 18:18:53

Talkinpeace, I think you're way overestimating your calories (unless your portions are absolutely massive) but I can certainly see how that would work to allow weekend wine and still lose weight!

Talkinpeace Tue 30-Jul-13 18:23:17

which ones am I overestimating .... most are based on MFP rounded up to the nearest ten

Talkinpeace Tue 30-Jul-13 19:11:15

OK, just put my lunch into MFP. I underestimated

Medium slice of nice Sainsburys bread : 110 cals
Half tablespoon of mayo : 45 cals
Banana : 100 cals
Tuna mayo filling : 200 cals
(and that is on a halfwidge)

I was wrong about the Waitrose ham : its only 45 cals a slice ....
but pasta is 300 cals per 70g uncooked ....

Xmasbaby11 Tue 30-Jul-13 19:13:45

Sounds like kids' portions! Poor you! A word is needed.

GettingVerySleepy Tue 30-Jul-13 20:05:38

Talkin, besides the ham (and the fact of having mayo assuming a tsp at 30 calls PLUS chutney as well) I was referring to the pasta dinner which with the meat, sauce, vegetables and pasta itself adds up to 1000 calories. That seems more like a restaurant pasta meal for a treat rather than something you'd have at home on an average evening.

GettingVerySleepy Tue 30-Jul-13 20:07:25

Oh and 200 calories of tuna mayo is an awful lot to have on just one slice of bread as well.

GettingVerySleepy Tue 30-Jul-13 20:10:48

Here is a random tuna sandwich on myfitnesspal, neither the highest nor anywhere near the lowest. It is 380calories so half a sandwich would be 190. No need to have a massive amount of tuna mayo AND some more mayo as well I wouldn't think, as in your estimate.

Talkinpeace Tue 30-Jul-13 20:14:25

One supermarked smoked haddock fishcake - which is what I had with my supper last night is 250 calories

Tonight I had 4 home made sticky chicken wings = 470 calories
and 2/3 of a cup of cooked basmati rice = 75 calories
and broad beans = 75 cals
and two large glasses of wine = 370 cals

70g of uncooked pasta is not a lot ....

if you think my estimates are way over, I would suggest you start checking your meals (per gramme) on MFP

Talkinpeace Tue 30-Jul-13 20:17:34

I never, ever, rely on other peoples estimates of what they put in their food
I do MFP from ingredients
start with a slice of bread
then a teaspoon of spread
then a part of a tin / pack of filling

most people underestimate what they are eating and overestimate what they need
on the 5:2 maintainers threads, many of us are holding steady at BMIs under 21 ..... trusting other people's calculations of our calories is not the way to get there

GettingVerySleepy Tue 30-Jul-13 20:18:04

That is a totally different meal from your 1000 calorie pasta meal and of course if you have two large glasses of wine the calls will add up! I do actually weigh my food on a digital scale and enter it daily into mfp which is maybe a tad bit obsessive I admit but at least I can be confident in my estimates. Anyway just trying to help and I'm sure your way is much more fun and less geeky/sad than mine grin!

Talkinpeace Tue 30-Jul-13 20:20:00

once you have a handle on it, you can get much lazier about MFP
and I fast to give myself leeway

but getting back to the OP
sorry you had a desk lunch today - hope you and your DH can come up with some fun lunches over the next few weeks

GettingVerySleepy Tue 30-Jul-13 20:20:58

Just saw your last response maybe you are overestimating your portion sizes then because a half a tuna sandwich is very unlikely to be 355 calories to take just one example unless you stuff them much fuller than most people do! Anyway you seem happy wi your way and of course if you're overestimating you will lose weight so carry on!

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