to want to buy a house with space in the kitchen for a fridge..?

(87 Posts)
MrsRajeshKoothrappali Thu 25-Jul-13 21:45:45

Viewed four houses today.

Two of them didn't have a space in the kitchen for a fridge. One of which was a brand new fitted kitchen done up to sell.

In one house you had to walk from the kitchen, through the dining room into a conservatory to access the fridge and in the other you had to walk through the utility room into the garage to get to it.

I thought it seemed too much of a faff and said that I needed the fridge to actually be in the kitchen, or at the very least in an ajoining room.

Estate agent looked at me like this: hmm

Am I totally spoilt and unreasonable. Or is wanting a fridge in the kitchen pretty standard?

Am starting to doubt myself..!


gordyslovesheep Thu 25-Jul-13 21:47:52

buy mine - it has space for a fridge freezer and a tumble dryer/washing machine/dish washer grin

whois Thu 25-Jul-13 21:48:03

I had a minor strop when house hunting a few years ago "I am NOT buying a house where I have to go down to te celler to get to the fridge" and the estate agent made out I was being U too...

As it happened I managed to find a lovely house with room for a fridge in the kitchen. How annoying when cooking to keep having to walk to another room or down to the celler?!?

whois Thu 25-Jul-13 21:49:03

Oh yes, it also had room for a washing machine, separate tumble dryer and a dishwasher. Unfortunately it's not in london where I live now! Gah.

MrsLouisTheroux Thu 25-Jul-13 21:49:50

Have the fitted kitchens not got fitted fridges?

linzi248485 Thu 25-Jul-13 21:50:11

I had to have a door taken out and plastered over to fit a fridge/freezer in and I still don't have room for a dryer that is in a cupboard.

softlysoftly Thu 25-Jul-13 21:51:21

I'd find that really odd! Where are you looking --so I never go near wierdoville-

softlysoftly Thu 25-Jul-13 21:51:52

Strikeout fall

ComposHat Thu 25-Jul-13 21:55:25

having looked at flats in Edinburgh some flats have space for a draining board and the sink snd the washing machine and fridge are in a cupboard in the lounge

Milliways Thu 25-Jul-13 22:06:35

YANBU. My built in fridge broke before Christmas but we are lucky to have a spare in adjoining lobby. Drives me mad keep walking around things, through a door to get to fridge. (That one is on its last legs too!)

JADS Thu 25-Jul-13 22:07:25


Our kitchen is a small galley and we have a fridge, freezer and washing machine. When we moved in there was no freezer space so that was a prioity when we redid the kitchen. If the kitchen had been refurbed then I would say those 3 bits would be a minimum.

Did it have a dishwasher?

Melfish Thu 25-Jul-13 22:14:58

YANBU I have a galley kitchen too, had to take out one side of useless cupboards to make a space for a fridge/freezer. Sadly have not got enough £ to take out pointless dishwasher and bore hole in wall for my garage-living tumble drier. How do people cope with just a tiny fridge and icebox with kids? I thought fridge/freezers were fairly universal.

MrsRajeshKoothrappali Thu 25-Jul-13 22:15:42

Nope. No dishwasher.

No intergrated fridges either.

Just weird treks to faraway rooms to get your cold stuff.

And with the garage one it didn't even leave space for a car..!


Minshu Thu 25-Jul-13 23:21:28

I rented a house where we could only have the fridge in the adjoining but non-insulated utility room. It was a right pain, especially with 1 yo DD trying to fall down the huge concrete step every time I opened the door. YANBU

Jan49 Thu 25-Jul-13 23:21:55

I moved house last year after more than a decade of living in a house where the fridge-freezer was in the dining room because the kitchen was small. It was a pain in the neck. The kitchen had been designed to fit a tiny fridge under the drainer where most people want a washing machine now. I'm now in a house with a kitchen diner so I have a fridge in the kitchen and can also lay the table whilst keeping an eye on food cooking on the hob. It's brilliant. I'd never buy a house where there's no room for a fridge, except if you're going to alter it.

Estate agents are trying to persuade you to buy the house so they'll never admit that it's a downside. They'd rather you think you're making a fuss about nothing and then buy the house and then realise too late that you were right all along.hmm

BackforGood Thu 25-Jul-13 23:27:34

YANBU. Having a fridge in the kitchen is not open to question in a normal person's life. Not even a question I'd think to ask / something I'd look for specifically on the details, I'd just assume it was.
I even though my SiL was mad for having her fridge in the 'dining' end of a large breakfast kitchen she was installing, rather than the 'working' end, and that was all in the same room!

clam Thu 25-Jul-13 23:32:13

We went to view a house once, where the owners had spent a fortune doing it up and it was vile too. The kitchen was brand spanking new, but we asked where the fridge was. The estate agent opened a few cupboard doors and then called the office to ask if anyone there knew. Then he phoned the vendors - no, the fridge (a massive F-you American-style one) was in the garage, which involved unlocking a triple-locked back door, walking across a bit of garden and then unlocking the garage side door before you could get the milk out for a cuppa. Can you imagine doing that in your dressing gown first thing in the morning in winter?

We didn't buy it! Saw the house still for sale a few months later, but with the pictures amended and they had a little counter-top fridge stuck right in the middle of the worktop.

RobotLover68 Thu 25-Jul-13 23:33:03

I lost count of the number of houses we looked at and my DH would say "where's the fridge?" He noticed straight away it wasn't in the kitchen (but he is a kitchen designer and was looking out for things like that)

BackforGood Thu 25-Jul-13 23:36:58

Am amazed that there's more than one house without a fridge in the kitchen shock
I assumed the OP had just been very unlucky and hit some strange design by a bit of bad luck!

ClartyCarol Thu 25-Jul-13 23:43:00

Our fridge is in the (adjoining) utility room. It's a bit of a pain but you kind of get used to scooping up everything you need in one go instead of schlepping back and forth.

I wouldn't go beyond an adjoining room though.

MaryBateman Thu 25-Jul-13 23:46:27

Our kitchen it is tiny. It's more like an alcove off our mahoosive dining room. It has the cooker, sink, dishwasher and plenty of cupboard space but no room for our American style fridge/freezer thingy. I can stand in the middle and touch all the worktops and cupboards without stretching. Not planning to sell anytime soon but perhaps we should think about knocking through.

And I've lost all perspective on what a small kitchen looks like after watching Escape to the Country. Apparently a small kitchen is about the same size as a tennis court.

MrsRajeshKoothrappali Thu 25-Jul-13 23:51:03

They'll be calling me in the morning asking for feedback.

Will it be okay to say that I'm not interested because of the weird fridge/kitchen scenarios?

Or will I just sound like a twat?


Still liked the other two houses..!

MaryBateman Fri 26-Jul-13 00:00:07

Yes it's fine and no you won't sound like twat!

steppemum Fri 26-Jul-13 09:03:50

yes definitely tell them

We had this, one house had large kitchen, with breakfast bar, all newly done etc. There was easily place to leave the last cupboard in the row out for the fridge, but no, the fridge was next door in the utility room. Which incidentally meant that the utility room was then overcrowded and you couldn't access the washing machine properly!

Also one or two houses where large kitchen and very very small under the counter fridge.

I found myself double checking in every house - where is the fridge/how can I fit in a fridge

I have come to the conclusion that people just don't cook, so don't notice

Hobbes8 Fri 26-Jul-13 09:10:30

We once tried to buy a kitchen from b&q and were told we couldn't fit in a fridge, even though we currently have one. Perhaps all these home owners did the same?

CharlotteBronteSaurus Fri 26-Jul-13 09:15:01

our fridge is currently in the dining room, but there is a Grand Plan to knock through, and reunite it with all the other kitchen appliances, who miss it dearly.

daisychicken Fri 26-Jul-13 09:16:26

Why but why would you not have a fridge in the kitchen?! I can understand not having the washing machine in a kitchen but in a garage (assuming no room for a wonderful utility room), I can understand a second fridge under the stairs/down the cellar/in the garage but not in the kitchen?! Mad!

I remember looking at a 2 bedroom house but the second bedroom couldn't fit a single bed in it! So why was it marketed as a 2 bed house?!

I would tell the estate agent! (and the only way I'd consider a house like that is if it needed a new kitchen immediately)

ZillionChocolate Fri 26-Jul-13 09:17:07

I have my freezer in the utility room and an additional fridge in the garage as our under the counter the fridge is a bit small. No way I could live without a fridge in the kitchen. Next time you're cooking, see how many times you go in the fridge. Could you be arsed with going in another room for that?

MrsRajeshKoothrappali Fri 26-Jul-13 09:17:13

Have just arranged another viewing for Tuesday in another property.

Price is low, yet it looks perfect.


No mention of a fridge in the kitchen - not a sausage. Can't see one in any pictures either.

And the washing machine is located in the garage. Not a mahoosive problem, except it means that you wouldn't be able to fit a car in.


Going to view it anyway because there might be some wiggle room somewhere but still feeling a bit confused about it. I've moved many times and squidging in the white goods has never previously been a problem.

I mentioned it to the estate agent who told me that 'many people frequently use their garages for doing laundry now' except me, anyone I know and anyone I've ever met.


popgoesthecat Fri 26-Jul-13 09:18:36

our house was the same too, no room for fridge/freezer and the estate agent told us to knock down the cupboard under the stairs to put one in! we spent most of the first three months with a ff standing in the middle of the kitchen grin. our neighbours were the same and put theirs in the cupboard under the stairs.

In the end i took out two cabinets and replaced them with a separate larder fridge and freezer - ruined the look of the kitchen but who would design one without them! most odd

PeterParkerSays Fri 26-Jul-13 09:23:09

I guess, to be fair to the estate agents, they're just trying to sell what they've got, and they can hardly say "I agree, it's a bit crap that there's no room for a fridge" as it wouldn't get the house sold and commission coming their way.

For me, the greater question is how the current owners came to buy the houses in the first place - why didn't the lack of a fridge put them off?

OnFoot Fri 26-Jul-13 09:25:47

I've lived in 2 houses where the fridge and freezer are in the internal garage, next to the kitchen. One was employer-provided accommodation so we didn't have a choice and the other is a rental where it ticked all the other boxes and we needed to move fast so I accepted it, knowing it was relatively short term. In both places it has annoyed me hugely and on a daily basis. I can't understand why anyone designs or accepts installation of a kitchen with no fridge.

Our new house will have a fridge-freezer where it's supposed to be - in the kitchen!

I would definitely give honest feedback to the agent. The owners should always be given true reasons in my opinion.

More to the point, it wouldn't really matter if you were being unreasonable - you're buying the house, and what matters to you is relevant even if it doesn't bother other people. You're entirely right to think about what would annoy you. And going to the garage for the fridge annoys me several times a day!

LineRunner Fri 26-Jul-13 09:28:00

I agree with you about needing a fridge in the kitchen.

And I wouldn't want to be doing family laundry in a garage in the middle of a long cold winter.

The trouble is the houses are like dolls' houses, these new builds.

JessicaBeatriceFletcher Fri 26-Jul-13 09:29:36

I have a small galley kitchen. It has a washing machine, a slim dishwasher and a fridge with a small freezer (2/3 height of a standard fridge freezer). Ideally, I'd want a tall fridge freezer and less fridge space, but as a single person I can make do with this. I could have a full size fridge freezer but I'd have to lose a wall unit which would be a pain.

I would NEVER buy a kitchen that didn't have room for a fridge with some freezer compartment that's bigger than an ice box. Would happily have a chest freezer in a garage etc but fridge? No.

wfrances Fri 26-Jul-13 09:30:36

mines not in the kitchen
its in the utility room with the washing machine
mainly because its too big (6 of us)
it would be easy to put a normal size one back in though

PeterParkerSays Fri 26-Jul-13 09:31:36

People don't do their laundry in the garage - they often have their tumble drier in the garage - not the same thing at all.

Sidge Fri 26-Jul-13 09:37:54

I wouldn't buy a house where the kitchen had no room for a fridge.

But the garage with no room for a car wouldn't bother me - I don't know anyone apart from my FIL who actually puts their car in the garage! Mine is full of crap and there's a little utility room at the back of the garage where my washer and tumbler are, as well as a chest freezer.

When you think about it it's a bit weird to have a washing machine in a kitchen - why wash clothes in an area you prepare food? It makes more sense to have the fridge in the kitchen and the washing machine elsewhere.

miemohrs Fri 26-Jul-13 09:45:54

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

MadBusLady Fri 26-Jul-13 09:52:51

Fucksake, imagine trekking back and forth to the garage for milk every time you want to make a cup of tea!

I've never come across this, but I have seen swish brand new fitted kitchens with about 30cm of worktop space, because the cheapo developer has just put in basic appliances and some wall cupboards, wacked a fake granite worktop over it all and you're expected to swoon at the shiny.

And the agents don't see it because they are generally pimply twelve year olds who've never made anything in a kitchen other than a glass of Coke. Tell them how it is, the knobs.

NoComet Fri 26-Jul-13 09:55:25

I have a reasonable sized fridge freezer in the kitchen, it still drives me nuts getting big stuff from the garage freezer.

BackforGood Fri 26-Jul-13 10:00:59

You seem perturbed about the not being able to get a car in the garage, but I think that's pretty common, tbh. A very small % of householders have their car in their garage these days.

The fridge though - now that is ridiculous.
I prefer the washing machine / tumble drier out of the kitchen if there's room elsewhere. That's a personal preference though, but surely everybody needs the fridge in the kitchen.

Pascha Fri 26-Jul-13 10:03:34

You'd love PILs house. There is a small under-counter fridge in the kitchen, a larger fridge-freezer in the adjoining utility (its just two steps away) and

A whole shed in the garden dedicated to all things freezer. 2 double and 1 single chest freezers.

Their electricity bill must be huge.

CogitoErgoSometimes Fri 26-Jul-13 10:05:09

YANBU If there's no fridge and no dishwasher etc., it barely qualifies as 'a kitchen'. It's just a room with a cooker and a sink.

clam Fri 26-Jul-13 10:05:11

I went to see some new-builds in the US a couple of years back. It's quite common there for laundry rooms to be upstairs, and kind of makes sense really. If you keep all your clothes up there, why schlep up and downstairs with them all the time? The massive washers sit in a tray type of thing, in case of leaks/floods.

gintastic Fri 26-Jul-13 10:06:32

YANBU. We've just finished having an extension built for a large kitchen. Prior, I had to go outside to the shed to get things from the fridge. Was awful - to the extent that I occasionally ordered takeaway because I couldn't bring myself to get all togged up in rain gear to go get the chicken.

I luffs my new kitchen very much indeed!

FatalFlowerGarden Fri 26-Jul-13 10:10:35

My fridge freezer is in the hall, next to the front door. Tiny rented flat, galley kitchen. It drives me mad, and I hate that the first thing people see when they come round is the bloody fridge!


wasabipeanut Fri 26-Jul-13 10:15:40

This is mad. Are houses now often so small and/or badly designed that fridges are a distance away from where you actually need them to be?

We have a galley kitchen but it does have an integrated fridge. Washing machine and additional fridge freezer next door in utility room. My old really titchy house which also had a galley kitchen managed fridge, freezer and washing machine. We even managed to cram a space saver dishwasher under one draining board.

I think * steppemum* is right and that people that don't cook just won't notice.

catsmother Fri 26-Jul-13 10:17:09

I've lived almost 9 years in a house where there isn't a fridge in the kitchen. As it stands, the only space left for one would be for an under the counter model - which are pretty small - and no room for a freezer. The room itself isn't too small but to fit a typical fridge freezer in we'd have to completely remodel the kitchen - which we can't afford to do. So - the fridge freezer lives in the dining room - which is up a small flight of stairs ..... after all this time I've kind of got used to it but it is a pain in the bum trying to carry several things down at once without dropping them, and packing shopping away without the benefit of dumping your bags on the unit before sorting it all out is also a minor nuisance. As is doing drinks ........

Stupid me thought we'd "sort" the kitchen out "soonish" so the lack of a fridge didn't put me off unduly but unfortunately life has got in the way since and I have no idea when/if it'll ever get sorted out. I do find myself getting irrationally annoyed with the previous owner every so often for getting such a stupid arrangement put in - but he was a single bloke so probably didn't think most people would want an upright fridge/freezer actually in their kitchen.

catsmother Fri 26-Jul-13 10:18:04

Though this thread has at least offered me a bit of mild reassurance that I'm not the only person in the country with a weird kitchen .......

LRDYaDumayuIThink Fri 26-Jul-13 10:23:13

We don't have a fridge in the kitchen. We have a tiny, ridiculous dishwasher that is too small to put fullsize plates in unless you stack them right at the edges where the swinging bar can't hit them.

We have a fridge stacked on top of the washing machine in the cubbyhole by the bathroom, which means that as a 5'5 woman I can't see into the top compartment and can't reach to the back of it.

It is quite annoying and I do think whoever decided to use the space like that was more than a bit nuts, but it's not so bad as you'd think. However I think if you're buying, you should be able to tell them what you want and expect them not to put on fake surprise when it's something ordinary like a fridge in the kitchen!

There should always be room for a fridge in a kitchen.

I had a 7'x7' kitchen, in it I managed to fit enough cupboards for food and pans, plate rack, d/washer, cooker and a fridge. The washer, dryer and freezer were kept in an outhouse..

I wouldn't buy a house without room for a fridge.

Faithless12 Fri 26-Jul-13 10:27:06

YANBU. We've been to quite a few houses that either don't have a fridge in the kitchen or only have a tiny undercounter fridge for a family.

I looked at a refurb house which we quite liked till we noticed no place for the fridge. You would have had to rip out brand new cupboards to make it fit. Muppets.

nosleeptilever Fri 26-Jul-13 10:32:07

YANBU! British house design has always confused me. under counter fridges? washing machine in the kitchen? No eaves so no place to shelter when entering and exiting house... (I'm Canadian)
Currently have a galley kitchen which was obvs designed by a non-cook. My dh renovated it so it's as good as it can get without knocking down walls but the fridge is still under the counter directly opposite the back door next to the cat food and litter tray (blech). I'm constantly pretending to shove the kitchen wall back about 4 feet so I could stop banging my elbows on it. DH doesn't think it's funny because it would cost a bomb to extendsad .
I literally dream of a kitchen diner with a proper sized fridge freezer and dishwasher (no room now) and a separate utility room for washing and drying laundry. sigh.
Hold out OP and tell those estate agents the truth about fridges!

gintastic Fri 26-Jul-13 10:34:20

nosleeptilever - we spent then money (£56k) and it was properly, properly worth it...

noisytoys Fri 26-Jul-13 10:37:37

Where I live close to London, there was a trend about 10-15 years ago for house owners to split their houses into as many flats as they could cram in, so there's no room for any storage full stop, room for cold food storage would be an absolute luxury. As a pervious poster mentioned its not unusual to not even fit a bed in a bedroom. I would think that was an essential

orangeandemons Fri 26-Jul-13 10:44:43

What happened to the Work Triangle? The amount of paces between fidge, cooker and counter should be about equal

orangeandemons Fri 26-Jul-13 10:46:15
LeGavrOrf Fri 26-Jul-13 10:49:09

When I moved into this house the kitchen was arranged in such a STUPID way that the fridge and freezer had to be in the utility room, which was at the back of the house so a real traipse. It was like that for two bloody years and drove me mad, It was so annoying to have to go back and forth, and then again when I inevitably forgot something.

I got a big American fridge in the end and knocked the kitchen about a bit to fit it in. 2 bloody years! That's what comes of having a partner who is a builder and his 'yeah in a minute' approach to DIY. grin

YANBU. Any kitchen lacking either sink, cooker or a fridge, is not fit for purpose. I wouldn't even consider buying.
Perhaps if I was renting, and everything else was perfect, I'd put up with the inconvenience if it was to be temporary. But buying? No.

coraltoes Fri 26-Jul-13 10:50:18

basically a kitchen is for food prep. if said food cannot be stored in a kitchen what you have there is a FAIL.

You wouldnt put up with a sofa in a room that isnt the living room cos of lack of space, or a bath in another room than the madness

meganorks Fri 26-Jul-13 10:50:19

My house doesn't have room for a fridge in the kitchen. Previous owners had one through dining room and in sun room. Condition of us buying the house was that I could get a fancy smeg fridge and put it in the dining room so next to kitchen. In the end got a smeg-a-like fridge that was half the price but still looks cool so ok to have in dining room.

LeGavrOrf Fri 26-Jul-13 10:52:35

I would definitely tell the estate agent, it would be a deal breaker for me.

As someone said, every time you make a cup of tea you have 2 pain in the arse journeys, and it is very, very annoying. Especially if you live with people who 'forget' to put the milk/cheese/butter/whatever back.

That is the prime reason I now drink my coffee black.

coraltoes Fri 26-Jul-13 10:56:09


i dont think british house design is at all like you describe. I have a tall fridge freezer. Oven is chest height (in wall), washing machine in utility, with tumble drier etc. The trouble is land is at a premium in cities in the UK, so people wont build houses as wide and airy as in Canada. Oh any my house isnt modern...about 200yrs old. so its not like i built it bespoke to accommodate my kitchen needs.

Regardless as the property shows will demonstrate on TV there is nothing a brit likes more than extending their property to create more space. Only obstacle is cost.

Didactylos Fri 26-Jul-13 11:04:18

I once rented a very nice flat- it had been the showhome for the apartment block and had been left with the show flat decor - so good quality finishes, very clean and it had been designed to maximise space. It was quite quirky decor, but had a wee balcony, nice curtains and a million colour matched vases hmm
there was a fridge and dishwasher and washing machine in the kitchen
but - no bins! and no space suitable for one in either bathroom or kitchen
also no space for a desk or bookshelf and none of this sort of useful/functional furniture. Or any place to put shoes or a shoe rack . I spent the whole year with mobile bins eg you had to move them out the way when you used the bathroom or kitchen and most of my books/ work on permanent display on the massive dining table

I would not buy a house without fridge in kitchen unless I was planning to alter it substantially

raisah Fri 26-Jul-13 11:09:32

Unfortunately mine is the same, space only for an integrated fridge with the main fridge/freezer in the garage. It wasn't too much of a problem before children but is a bit of a faff now. We just couldn't afford to buy a house with a large kitchen in 2005 as the prices then were ridiculously high. The estate agent at the time said we needed to pay an extra £15k for a large kitchen with fridge space! Or an extra £20k for a house with a kichen large enough for a table & fridge! It was that type of foolish talk that led to the ridiculously high prices and the subsequent housing crash.

NorbertDentressangle Fri 26-Jul-13 11:10:55

YANBU - it would drive me mad having to go to a different room/building to go to the fridge. I hate to think how many times a day I get something out of or put something into the fridge.

We were at a friends the other day and I noticed that their fridge freezer isn't in the kitchen. It seemed odd as the kitchen/dining room is a huge extension they had built at the end of their house so the kitchen was new and to their specifications yet the fridge was at the other side of the dining area IYSWIM.

I once lived in a rented house (pre-DC) where the washing machine was in a separate building/ garden room and that was a big enough PITA doing your washing a couple of times a week.

WellThatsLife Fri 26-Jul-13 11:13:38

We have a space for the fridge-freezer but the designers didn't put a plug near it? We have to stretch an extension from the nearest socket

notallytuts Fri 26-Jul-13 12:12:56

I lived in a house as a student where the fridge was in the living room. It joined onto the kitchen though and the kitchen was tiny so it was never an issue, it was about 3 steps. I've lived in houses since where the fridge has been in the kitchen, but further to walk grin

At home we have a small fridge under the worktop in the kitchen, and a big fridge freezer in the utility room (not that close to the kitchen). Its never struck me as an issue but I guess I grew up like that! I'm not sure I'd tolerate it in another house

MaxPepsi Fri 26-Jul-13 12:33:39

I'm not an envious person at all, apart from when it comes to kitchens! envy

Our kitchen is fit for purpose, but not fit for MY purpose. But at least the fridge is in there, where it should be!

I dream of a huge kitchen with plenty of workspace and an adjoining utility room where I can do my laundry in peace without the dog nicking the mucky washing and where I have room for a dedicated beer and wine fridge!

Onesleeptillwembley Fri 26-Jul-13 12:50:38

What an odd thing to do. However, it may be a godsend if you're dieting. grin

CunningAtBothEnds Fri 26-Jul-13 13:33:23

Yanbu our second rented place had no real space for a combi just under counters right PITA until we got them fridge freezer was in the lounge/diner, looked odd!

House we have just bought ironically hasnt space for upright 50/50 but current owner has that in the conservatory, Which is literally just off the kitchen (about 4 footsteps from
Kitchen door) and it has space for an undercounter fridge in the actual kitchen so im thinking that i'll only really trek to conservatory for wine freezer grin

My 1st house had a small kitchen, the previous owners had fitted a dishwasher where the fridge should have been and put the fridge under the stairs. It worked fine.

CandidaDoyle Fri 26-Jul-13 13:50:42


I once went to view a house I was convinced would be perfect for us. It was all going so well til the homeowner took us to show us the garage at the bottom of the garden - which I then realised was the only storage place in the entire house for the vacuum. Fail.

MrsRajeshKoothrappali Fri 26-Jul-13 14:00:19

I'm still waiting for the estate agent to get back to me about whether or not there's a fridge in the kitchen of this other house we like.

It's not mentioned. All other appliances are named.

Until yesterday this is something I honestly never thought about, now it's 'an issue'.


The bloody agent I'm waiting for is the one who thought I was 'too fussy' in another property because I suggested the damp extension ceiling might just be a problem..!


House hunting is tedious..!

but i take exception to everyone who says you need a dishwasher. hmm

in our kitchen, we have a fidge/freezer and a separate freezer.
and acooker and a washing machine.
it's too small for anything else.

my mum and dad used to have the washing machine in the conservatory - which made proper sense, as it was next to the back door for hanging out in the summer, or the conservatory could be used for hanging out in the winter.

no problem with washing machines being in garages either, if they're attached to the house

Pobblewhohasnotoes Fri 26-Jul-13 14:16:53


When we bought our house we had to remove a wall cupboard to fit in a fridge freezer. I miss having a dishwasher, one day when we get our kitchen done...

MadBusLady Fri 26-Jul-13 14:36:23

I just don't understand the "too fussy" thing - do they think they're going to embarrass you into handing over that amount of money rather than be perceived as "too fussy" by some twat you've only just met? Maybe some do, but I'd be amazed if it was a widely successful strategy on huge ticket items like this. But they seem convinced this kind of wheeler-dealerism works, I guess because the market hasn't exactly leaned out the profession over the last decade. They'll sell houses no matter what. They might as well put it down to lucky underpants as anything they say or do.

I didn't like most of the ones I've met much, can you tell?

KnappShappeyShipwright Fri 26-Jul-13 15:27:22

We're renting a 1970s semi with a ridiculous kitchen without space for a single electrical appliance, someone has built a lean-to on the side so we can have a washing machine, tumble dryer, fridge freezer and dishwasher. It didn't seem too bad when we looked round the house but a year on it drives me round the bend. I wouldn't buy this house for that very reason (well, that and the noisy neighbours, lack of amenities in this town...).

Goodness knows what the original occupiers were expected to do, every single house in our road has been extended to make the kitchen usable.

LessMissAbs Fri 26-Jul-13 16:42:41

How bizarre. These properties are probably hard to shift and the estate agent probably knows that. Are you sure there wasn't a tiny fridge hidden somewhere in the kitchen?

I've done up and sold many properties and I have no interior design training but this is so basic - why on earth would you think a property would sell without a fridge in the kitchen?! If its a small kitchen, you must somehow fit in sink, drainer, cooker and fridge, all located close together preferably built in or silver. These are the bare essentials.

Better still if you can fit in a dishwasher, tall fridge freezer, washing machine and tumble dryer. Actually I have a dilemma about my current project, as the washing machine and tumble dryer are in attached outhouse ie you have to go outside to access them although its a storage room attached to the house. I like it because you get no noise when both are on, but I don't think its quite right and we can make room in the (medium sized) kitchen to put them in there. Interested in hearing views on this.

steppemum Fri 26-Jul-13 22:36:03

LessMiss - I would not be interested if I had to go outside. Not so bothered by them being in the back of a garage for example if there is a clean floor (eg piece of lino) in front of the machine.
Is there no way of making a doorway through to your storage room and creating a utility room?

And my ideal utility room has a sink. A dirty sink (ie a sink in which I can wash football boots and paint brushes) is the icing on the cake of my perfect kitchen/utility room combo.

(memo to self - get a life!)

ShadowMeltingInTheSun Fri 26-Jul-13 23:12:02

YANBU. It's perfectly normal to want a fridge in the kitchen. I'd be really put off a property if it didn't have room for a fridge in the kitchen.

Washing machines / tumble dryers in garages etc wouldn't be a deal-breaker. A lot of garages are teeny tiny and hard to fit modern cars into anyway.

MadBusLady Sat 27-Jul-13 08:41:24

Ooh yes, a dirty sink.


Didactylos Sat 27-Jul-13 10:47:52

a family member is a builder who designs kitchens as part of their job, normally for renovated property so within the confines of an existing space, and the whole idea is to get a layout thats easy to work in - in practice this is normally starting with a triangle of 3 points where cooker, fridge/freezer and sink are, because these are the 3 places youd be walking to and from if preparing a meal. Dishwasher,washing machine etc position less essential

starsandunicorns Sat 27-Jul-13 11:04:42

I live in a flat above shops my kitchen is tiny as.there is a cupboard for the massive boiler in kitchen my front is on street level and we have a small space to enter so you open the front door and you see my normal sized freezer turn lwft for the stairs when you are at the top you see my fridge which is in a cupboard in the hallway walk two paces and you are in the kitchen it has a cooker a sink a washing manchine and some cupboards and two small work tops its L shaped the cooker is so close to the cupboard where the boiler is I cook sideways as cant stand oppsite the cooker as the wall is behind me the you can only just squeeze by to get to the plate cupboard the tumble dryer lives in dds room its cosy

starsandunicorns Sat 27-Jul-13 11:09:42

Mine is a counicl flat next door has no cupboard in the kitchen and a new little combo boiler so can get his fridge in the kitchen his dc vist each weekend and when they see me tge first thing they ask is hows your tiny kitchen stars grin

dizzy77 Sat 27-Jul-13 11:30:58

Whilst I'd check it, I don't think my fridge would be included in estate agents particulars about the kitchen, as its free standing and we'd take it if we moved. Unlike the oven, sink, washing machine etc.

YANBU though. One of my key criteria was a "social" kitchen: not necessarily large but close enough to other people I wouldn't be squirrelled away somewhere. Still dreaming of that utility room.

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