To be astounded that women use reusable cloth pads when on their period(320 Posts)
I had no idea that people did this - found out courtesy of a thread on another forum.
Okay, I gather that it's supposed to be more environmentally friendly than using tampons or sanitary towels (although surely there is energy involved in washing them)...but using & washing out pieces of rag in 2013? Seriously?!
I know it's an individual's choice, I get that. But AIBU to be just astounded by that choice?
But why are you astounded? Where do you draw the line? We do have quite a throwaway culture and everybody has different lines.
And I figure, I don't have to wash it and it's none of my business so why would I be remotely concerned about how other people manage their reproductive cycle? In fact it seems far more sensible to me than using sanitary towels and tampons when I think about it. Which generally I don't. I spend my time thinking about David Mitchell naked on a cracker.
Not sure they're all that great for having to change them when out and about either! Doesn't really bear thinking about!
Do you feel the same about cloth nappies?
YABU - I don't do so myself but it's good to have a choice. How do you think people in countries that don't have access to disposable sanpro manage?
I've never been 'on' my period.
I've never used washable cloths either but not surprised that green types do though.
I think having blood soaked cotton mouldering in your bin for a week is pretty rank, but each to their own.
You're quite easily astounded if this shocks you, tbh.
I've considered using them and would if periods were heavier but they are actually pretty expensive (as they are more than just "pieces of rag") and wouldn't be worth it for me.
You sound very judgmental. I've never used re-useable towels but I don't find it at all astounding that other people do.
Shop bought towels give me minge itch so I use tampons. If I didn't want to use tampons then I'd probably use washable pads.
And have you heard, some people actually use pegs to attach wet washing onto string hung up in their garden to get it dry instead of using a dryer, in 2013????
And I know this one family who don't have a car? I mean I think it's bordering on reckless.
yabu. no different to cloth nappies.
Yanbu. I don't know how anyone uses any sort of sanitary towel.. I have only ever used them after birth of dc but they are disgusting. Why would you want to let blood leak out of you! Mooncup or tampons are the only reasonable way!
No lets not use mooncups or washable protection ... lets bung it all in landfill and leave the residue for our grandchildren in 2053? Seriously?!
Just because you've lobbed something away doesn't mean its gone. By all means make a rational choice for disposable or reusable but don't go down the "its a bit ick" route and then ignore how "ick" festering landfill is.
Show wouldn't the cracker break?
I think its a good idea, better than filling up landfill with pads and tampons. I considered using them at one stage, but went for the mooncup instead, which is brilliant.
YABU. I just let it run down my legs and get soaked up by my socks.
Of course I don't.
But it's only blood, you know. Not nuclear waste. Would you throw away a shirt that someone had had a nosebleed on? (OK, so I imagine plenty of today's hyper-squeamish generation probably would.)
Snort at David Mitchell on a cracker. How that man can inspire lustful thoughts is beyond me.
Now, let's imagine Jason Isaacs on a chunk of tiger bread...
Sorry OP, got sidetracked there. Reusable pads aren't my cup of tea but I do admire people who are that committed to the environmental cause.
YABVU, I use them, they're not a 'rag' in the slightest, actually do some research and see what they look like. The energy used to wash them is nowhere near what it takes to make and ship the sanitary pads/tampons you use monthly, I throw them in with my cloth nappies. I feel better that I'm not binning/flushing waste that's going to pollute the environment for decades, simply because it's more convenient for me.
If that astounds you, you need to get out more.
Reusable stuff is brilliant for me. Tampons make me ill (runs,fever etc) towels to a lesser extent plus they itch. It'll be a cold day in hell before i stick a sink plunger up myself (ouch). im not bothered by my blood so reuseable pads are perfect.
the only choice i dont understand is free bleeding. that must be messy and smelly
YABU. I use a mooncup. It's fab.
I am astounded that people concern themselves with other women's choice of sanitary protection.
I've mooncupped for the past 3 years now but would use washable pads in a heard beat over plastic wrapped cotton wool compressed and mixed in with those weird crystal gel things.
Well, it's not for me, but then lots of people do things that I wouldn't.
Festering landfill is very ick. Luckily my county goes for incineration (which lots of people have other problems with.. but I live near it and it's really not an issue)
I use them as back up for my mooncup, like now, when it's all gone a bit Enoch Powell, and I'm emtying the bugger every hour, it's good to know there's a pad backing it up. I probably wouldn't use them as my main protection as I'm a bit too bleedy for that, but I just chuck them in the nappy bucket.
Yes. I also use cloth nappies.
Now, could someone explain free bleeding to me please?
I really want to try them but I'm on the pill at the moment and don't know what my periods will be like when they come back. Can anyone recommend a good place to get them, and an estimate of what I might need?
Oh and OP, YABU BTW. It's not for you, fine, but don't denigrate other people's choices.
David Mitchell. Jason Isaacs. I'm easily pleased - I'll have either. With or without the cracker.
Oh and OP, YABU.
I wouldn't use one personally. Happy with my natracare unbleached organic sanpro personally (no itch, no dodgy chlorine by-products etc), and already have far too much never-finished washing/housework to be adding bloody cotton pads to the list. But I can see why those who are more eco-conscious than me (and more organised) might like them.
I'm now picturing David Mitchell on a cracker.
What's it's being 2013 got to do with it? There are far more developing than developed countries in the world. We are fortunate to have the choice. As previous posters have said, disposable products go to landfill, probably in a country where there is little choice of sanitary wear. If you wash reusables properly I don't see what is so disgusting about them.
Does the OPs username not make you question the motives of this thread, or is it just me thinking that its a little weird?
Rowanred - why would you want to keep blood that is meant to be vacating your body inside it? I think tampons are pretty grim, I don't want a blood-soaked bit of cottonwool up my fanjo for a few hours at a time (when I used tampons I was always forgetting to change them, at least with sanitary towels you can't forget!).
I wouldn't use the washable ones because I hate being obliged to do loads of laundry but I am aware of them and they seem a very good idea!
Binky Yes, I did wonder. Might be coincidence?
Do I feel the same about cloth nappies? In all honesty, yes, a little bit. I don't really know why anybody would want to deal with washing nappies.
But I understand with nappies that there are other motivations other than just the environment - wanting your baby to look cute; wanting to fit into a certain style of parenting.
I know that I am being judgemental. I can't help it - I was just so surprised to learn that people did this. I knew about mooncups and thought that was the eco choice - but this just seems like a step too far.
to be astounded that someone does their period different to you? Yabu. And a bit ridiculous.
Be astounded by the national debt or by the amount of humans living in poverty or by the fact that harrods once sold a pot noodle for 30£
YANBU I agree with you that it is each to their own, but no, I don't understand that choice either.
Firstly I hate using even disposable towels and have only used them after having my babies. I use tampons by choice.
I remember what my Granny told me about having to use rags for sanpro when she was young, so I just don't get it.
Towels irritate me.
Mooncups are different IMO.
the fact that harrods once sold a pot noodle for 30£
Good grief, really?
Why use reusable pads when you can flush a wad of cotton down the loo and out to sea? No idea. None at all. It's almost like women don't want to pay loads of money each month to pollute the planet!
I know that I am being judgemental. I can't help it
Yes you can.
The Harrods Pot Noodle
it means not using anything at all, mummytomog. only for light periods i think
[Do I feel the same about cloth nappies? In all honesty, yes, a little bit. I don't really know why anybody would want to deal with washing nappies.
But I understand with nappies that there are other motivations other than just the environment - wanting your baby to look cute; wanting to fit into a certain style of parenting.]
Erm, what? I couldn't give a flying fuck about fitting into a certain style of parenting, and the terry nappies I use are practical, and not remotely cute. I just don't want to fill up landfill any more than I already do, and don't find washing nappies particularly arduous. I don't especially want to deal with nappies at all, but sadly they appear to be a side effect of babies.
I don't get how you can always/regularly forget to change a tampon though?
Nothing? Nothing at all? What the hell? If I did that it would look like the massacre of the innocents wherever I went. kerrist.
It's not for me, but YABU.
In 2013, we have washing machines that make quick work of washing just about anything and don't have to do it in a tub with a stick.
Thanks for the link ChazsBrilliantAttitude.
I am amazed.
TBH for us, cloth nappies were far cheaper then the disposable types - and better for my children's skin. So a financial and health motivation as well as an environmental motivation.
Similar reasons for women who use cotton sanitary towels - less likely to cause allergic reactions and thrush; as well as cheaper in the long run.
Nothing particularly astounding about it.
And David Mitchell definitely warrants more of my thought processes than what other people do for sanitary protection.
Mrsoake...Because blood smells? It has a funny metallic smell and it's just not very clean to walk about with a blood soaked pad between your legs! Personal choice obviously but I think sanitary towels( of all sorts!) are grim!
A certain style of parenting?
By using nappies?
I have no problems with using washable San pro, which I do to back up my mooncup. It is comfortable, cheap, isn't perfumed and as a bonus is more environmentally friendly.
The thought of entombing my nethers in perfumed, itchy, hot plastic - not to mention the hair wrenching sticky wings - makes me positively wince.
I use cloth because it's better for DD's skin, there's no nasty chemicals in them, I can sell them on once she's done with them, they cost less in the long run to use, they don't take up tons of room in my bin, they keep her cooler in summer and I hate the smell of sposies.
I don't know one person who uses cloth who does it to 'fit into a certain style of parenting'.
how is it cleaner while stuck up your fanjo?
We're supposed to adopt a parenting style?!
I use a mooncup. Before mooncup came out I had to use cloth towels as I react badly to disposable towels and tampons.
Tbf towels have improved in recent years but I find they feel dirty and unhygienic compared to disposable towels.
To the poster upthread who wanted to try reusables try here..
I would advise starting off with only 4 just to see how you get on and then building up more as and when you feel like it.
Yabu. I use cloth pads. Far less revolting than tonnes of soiled plastic pads sitting in a landfill somewhere and more comfortable too.
wow over £10 for a bit of pretty fabric and wadding all in the name of being green.
I bet the loo roll you use each day has a lot more environmental impact than a properly disposed of tampon
Sockreturningpixie thanks! We use cloth for our son too so I'll just throw them in with the nappies. Quite excited now!
I cant possibly imagine anyone would leave one in the washing basket for a week! surely they are rinsed out immediately at home and washed on the next hot wash in the machine? FWIW it must be preferable to filling landfil with used disposables.
I don't have these, but my periods have always been very light and I mostly don't bother with anything at all so I effectively do the same by washing my pants.
10 pounds? In the link they are half that price.
Also if you rinse pretty quickly its better than letting them stink out your bin surely? Same as cloth nappies, they stink less
sorry, don't get the hump, humps.
Taking sea sponge from the ocean cannot be environmentaly friendly.
Didn't look at the smaller ones as they would be no good for me
I use a mooncup personally, but would choose cloth over plastic sanitary towels.
Same as choosing cloth nappies over plastic ones - nicer against the baby's skin and cheaper.
I have very sensitive skin. I use cloth pads and cloth nappies for DC... I didn't realise it was ever considered anything other than 'your body/kids, your choice' until MN.
I'm not rank, I swear! Just sensitive skin and cloth is easier for nappy changes in my family. I'm not trying to fit into a parenting lifestyle... In fact most of what you'd associate with cloth is the sort of parenting I just wouldn't do!
I'm another one who uses nothing. My periods are so light I can dispose while on the loo for a pee, no leakage ever.
I would use cloth but my flow is so heavy I have to wear super plus tampons and a pad, and change them every half hour to an hour on the first 2 days. It just wouldnt be feasible to change that often if I was out and about with cloth, I would have to carry a shopping bag just for my sanpro.
I have to admit to being surprised that people used reusable sanitary products as well, but only because like many others out there I'd been fooled by the manufacturer's into thinking it was a choice between towels and tampons only. Once you think about it, reusables make quite a lot of sense.
To balance ecofriendliness with cost and ease of use, I much prefer my mooncup though.
Ok never heard of free bleeding. How can that work? I'd be terrified to sit down. Surely it gets on your clothes unless your flow is really light and/or you're wearing really big granny knickers?
Someone please explain this to me.
I'm astounded that people don't, to be honest. I think its bizarre that so many people want to put highly bleached processed cotton up their foof, or scented plasticy pads glued to their pants.
I wouldn't dream of so rudely saying so though.
I used cloth San Pro for a while and found it easy to wash, it was washed daily along with dd3 and dd4's cloth nappies. It certainly wasn't festering for a week at a time. I preferred it at the time as it feels much nicer against the skin compared to the plastic feeling of disposables plus I didn't get thrush which I found I got using disposable pads.
My imse vimse pads were a lot less than that and I gout blood during my periods. Waffly, I am VERY jealous. Thanks to the mooncup, I kept a record for a couple of months and then stopped because it was depressing me. I'm not prepared to do any of the things that would make them less heavy, but the mooncup makes things manageable. It was life changing for one week a month - so much less stress and cost, far fewer embarassing stains on my trousers, awkward moments where I had to try and deal with said stains without anyone noticing, trying to dry my clothes on the hand dryer in the lav at work etc etc etc.
Imse Vimse pads are the dogs bollocks, and responsibly produced. Their nappies and breast pads are good too. I could never understand why people use disposable breast pads. They just don't seem to work and they SMELL. My reusable pads did me for two babies and then did my mate for her son as well. So that's nearly two years of breastfeeding between us out of the same pads.
I used to use them as a backup along with a mooncup, before I got a mirena fitted. They're practical, eco friendly - it's really not that big a deal to wash them. If you've ever leaked onto your pants/clothing/sheets did you chuck them away or wash them? It's just blood.
I don't use anything, I'm very fortunate to have ridiculously light periods anyway, and I've had a coil for the last nearly ten years so only bleed very infrequently.
When I've had to wear pads to deal with lochia I've ended up with terrible thrush. I think with a heavier flow I'd definitely use reusables.
Washing sanitary towels and nappies! I think I'm going to be sick! How can you do that to yourself? And your children? All that laundry!
^very heavy on the sarcasm^
Get a life, op.
Not checked all the pads but i just looked at the type i would require.
This is what they are made of
Honour Your Flow pads
Bamboo velour: 80% oeko-tex certified bamboo/ 18% organic cotton/ 2% polyester
Bamboo fleece: 70% oeko-tex bamboo/ 30% organic cotton
Bamboo silk: 72% bamboo/ 28% silk
Cotton flannel: 100% natural unbleached cotton
Cotton velour: 100% organic cotton
Wool: 100% wool (may be jersey, may be interlock, depending on my mood!)
Polyester fleece: 100% polyester
Thread: 100% polyester
Poppers: nickel free metal with painted coloured tops
Silk and polyester are not what i think of a green and environmentally friendly
There's a massive difference between buy sanitary pads that contain silk and polyester, that can be washed and reused for years and buying packs of disposables every month made of even less environmentally friendly material that use a lot of energy to make and transport, on top of the environmental impact of eventually disposing of them in landfill.
If you're trying to insinuate that they're not environmentally friendly because some contain silk and some contain polyester, you're grasping at straws.
2% polyester compared to 98% renewable materials, and thats what you focus on? It's a lot better than flushing tampons out to sea.....
Most of my period is usually light enough not to need anything much - I might use a pantyliner if I'm out of the house around teatime, when I tend to spot a bit. The change to this type of cycle coincided with me investing in a mooncup, which I've only used a couple of times because, when I am heavy, my foof is so tender and bloated that it makes me feel queasy.
Cantspel, polyester might consume limited oil resources, but that's limited by it being used time and time again - unlike tampons and disposable pads.
cantspel you are clutching at straws with your arguement.
If you don't want to use them, then don't. Is anyone forcing you to?
KobayashiMaru i dont flush tampons out to sea and most women i hope would not be flush a tampon or any other sanpro.
I've never understood why people go to great lengths in an attempt to diminish the credentials of washable and reusable goods (nappies, san pro)
Would you argue that disposable clothes were better for the enviroment than reusable, washable clothes (yes, even when factoring in the washing costs?)
I think not.
So why is it so different with nappies and san pro?
Didn't look at the smaller ones as they would be no good for me
These are designed for and very good for major heavey and post natal use and are £6.75 they also have other designs in the same range a tiny bit cheaper.
The only thing that would convince me to try them would be on environmental grounds. As i am not convinced that they are as green as claimed i looked into their construction. Do you blindly make choices without exploring the matter further?
Plus calling san pro a fairy hammock is just a bit too twee for me. And as for jam sponge, well no way would i buy sea sponge let alone a product called a jam sponge.
Would you argue that disposable clothes were better for the enviroment than reusable, washable clothes (yes, even when factoring in the washing costs?)
No. Because clothes don't generally get covered in excrement or bodily fluid.
You might be surprised how many people do flush them out to sea
"An estimated 2 billion sanitary protection items such as condoms, tampons, razors and cotton buds are flushed down British toilets each year."
These are also for heavey flows but Ime are not as good for post natal use due to width they are also under £5
Most people flush. And your arguments are specious.
So cantspel I assume you put your tampons in the bin......... where they get buried in a hole in the ground?
Much better than chucking them in the sea
No. Because clothes don't generally get covered in excrement or bodily fluid.
What does that have to do with environmental friendliness? The piss and crap gets flushed out the washing machine into the sewers, just as it does when you use the toilet. It has no bearing on whether they're environmentally friendly or not.
Why don't you calculate the amount of non degradable materials in half a dozen washables used for 5 years v the amount in the disposable sanpro used in the same time frame (including packaging / plastic wrappers etc) and then tell us which is the greener option.
No i put mine in a clinical waste collection bag. Not an option for most women but one i do have that option and use it.
Cantspel I don't believe you have done much research because you seemed to assume they were all more expensive then most of them are.
Agree about the twee names, as it happens.
Ha OP. Your clothes might not. I have small children and heavy periods, so my clothes get covered in poo, wee and blood quite often actually.
Chaz you dont need to buy into the fancy packaging and individually wrapped san pro in little twee bags tied with ribbon.
Supermarkets own do me fine and cost me less than a pound a month.
Why do people use the expression 'on your period' - gross, about as bad as 'falling pregnant' - which I never understood anyway .
Millions of women around the world have no choice about what sanitary protection to use, and another point about expensive sanpro - it is something to think about donating to foodbanks/womens' refuges etc. Many women don't have the 'luxury' of choosing what (if any) sanpro they can buy. .
So the supermarket own don't come in a plastic bag then?
Menstrual blood is NOTHING like excrement, you
weirdo troll ignoramus.
I use re-useable pads, in fact I'm going to have to buy some more when I stop breastfeeding. I
bloody love them.
Why would you use a sticky, sweaty, shiny bit of plastic crap that attaches to your pubes and costs far more money, when these cotton, thin, beautifully made items are available.
I just don't get it.
'But I understand with nappies that there are other motivations other than just the environment - wanting your baby to look cute; wanting to fit into a certain style of parenting'
is just so pathetic I don't know where to begin. Are they seriously the only reasons you can think of?
Oh and don't think that we don't KNOW this is a ridiculous goady thread that will feed the Fail tomorrow, or the Jeremy Vine or Wright stuff etc etc
I think people who do free-bleeding must just have very light periods, it would be too much work cleaning sheets etc otherwise? And would- always be a concern about ruining someone's couch..
yes but one bag rather than one for each pad. Using the minim packaging needed and i assume when you send off for your reusables they come in some sort of packaging as well.
I used them when I had little babies, regular pads made my eczema flare up in places I didn't need to scratch I used to soak them in a bucket and throw them in with a load of cloth nappies as needed.
Now I'm back to tampons as usual. Tried the mooncup with some success, but not when I was out an about, too many overflow problems for me.
I would go with re-usables if I wasn't so lazy and disorganised. And I would definitely go with David Mitchell, as well (I love the fact that, should he google himself right now, he would find a MN thread about reusable towels! ).
Mainly cardboard or brown paper
MummytoMog I have a toddler and heavy periods myself, but seem to avoid getting my clothes covered in poo, wee and blood.
Maybe that's because I use disposable nappies and tampons
Ooh (just reading the thread now) I left one to fester once, by mistake.
I had a visitor and had to be very quick so I rolled it up and shoved it in a bag i keep in the bathroom, and forgot it was there.
Do you know what happened? It went brown, dried out and waited there perfectly inert till I found it a month or so later.
Really - there's not much of an ick factor with sanitary pads. They are far less icky than nappies, and I use reuseable ones of those without a problem as well.
£1 per month over 35 years is still £420. My mooncup cost me £20. I expect to replace it twice, maximum. I don't know the detail if carbon footprint comparison but imagine its pretty significant. I'd imagine similar for reusable towels.
Cloth nappies cost c.£500 incl washing costs vs disposables at £2500-£3500 and have c25% of the carbon footprint if line dried and 50-60% if tumbled.
I've ordered my reusable breast pads too, LO due in 2 weeks...
But ALL of that aside. Why do you care how other women deal with their menstrual blood? On every level I can fathom, YABVU
Interesting first post and interesting username.
I don't know why people are bothering to respond to you after your comment about cloth nappy users wanting to appear to be a certain type of parent.
You just come across as unfeasibly stupid, tbh.
Jeremy, for the first time this year as a mother of three, I used disposable nappies for my baby. They were awful. Nearly every single one of them leaked. I was changing him all the blooming time.
I bought some reuseables to replace our old ones about a month ago, and have had ONE tiny leak of wee since then. ONE.
This is a 6 month old breastfed baby. ONE leak. The disposable ones leaked CONSTANTLY. And were blooming expensive as well.
Oh and don't think that we don't KNOW this is a ridiculous goady thread that will feed the Fail tomorrow, or the Jeremy Vine or Wright stuff etc etc
I wasn't trying to be ridiculously goady. As I said in my OP, this is something I read about on another forum and I was just shocked by it. Perhaps I am leading a sheltered life but I had no idea people did this. I was merely interested as to whether anybody else shared my surprise.
Not first post, have NC-d. Pombears, Yoni, etc.
Quite often they don't add extra packaging to reusables, just put them in an envelope. Additionally, packaging once v 60+ lots of packaging over a 5 year timescale.
I really don't understand why you are arguing against the obvious, a reusable product that lasts for years is going to use up less materials that the use of disposable products over the same timescale.
If you don't want to use them for whatever reason then that's fine - its entirely your choice but I don't understand why you are trying to run down the environmental benefits of reusable products.
I used washeable pads for years. Comfortable and eco. Whats not to like. Sadly they vanished during a house move. I still have no idea how and I cant afford to pay out again.
"On your period" sounds really grim and (dare I say it...) common.
Wow Jeremy, do you have like totes amazing babies that don't wee in your face when you change them? And are immune to vomiting and diarrhoea bugs? This weekend my two year old wee'd on me twice while I was changing him, my four year old managed to poo on my arm while being helped to use a strange toilet and my period started unexpectedly while I was driving across country. So yes, blood, wee and poo. I have however washed all of those clothes and intend to reuse them. What a freak. You must be ASTOUNDED.
Someone further up wondered why so many people were ready to be convinced that washable nappies etc were not eco friendly.
There is huge industry relient on convincing women (and even with nappies, it is mostly women who make the decisions) that there is no ecological benenfit to using washable nappies/washable sanpro.
Most of the arguement against washable nappies/san pro, seems to stem from 'urgh, that's yuck'.
Well there are many yucky things in life. Even if you use disposible nappies, you will still be cleaning up poo/wee/vomit etc. If you or a loved one are ill/old , then you will probably be dealing with lots of things many people consider disgusting.
ds got the poo out of his disposable nappy and ate and wiped himself and entire crib in it while he was supposed to be sleeping. I dare say I got the odd bit on me while cleaning it up
I have no view either way about how other women deal with their own menstrual flow, and I barely have any since Mirena Coil, but I do take issue with this 'just stick it in with the next hot wash, it won't hang about for a week' nonsense with regard to reusable pads. In this house, there are no very hot washes, everything gets done at 30 degrees, and I only do 2 loads most weeks. This means reusables would definitely hang around for a week and possibly longer here. I feel my washing habits are much greener than many of yours!
No cardi, you just have lower standards .
"On your period" sounds really grim and (dare I say it...) common
Oh we can't have that can we.
Are you usually JeremyPaxman OP?
Well then you hand wash them in the sink after boiling a kettle. not difficult to work out, is it?
Well, if you're going to actually judge me (really? ) as opposed to just being surprised for making an ecological sound and healthy choice (rank chemicals/bleach near/in my fanjo for days a month? No thanks!), I shall judge you right back for destroying the planet.
I used cloth nappies too. Why on earth wouldn't you?
Absolutely I do, Mintyy. However, I contend that, as with people who think reusable pads are ick are not being reasonably green, so are people who wash things endlessly and pointlessly before they are dirty
do they actually need a hotwash? Blood comes out better with cold water right? And blood (your own blood) isn't unhygienic?
2 loads a week? I sometimes do 2 a day!
I never heard of them until 5 mins ago.
I'm not shocked.
I don't think I would use them as I prefer tampons, but I would try them out, sounds interesting.
and anyway sometimes my bedsheets or knickers or even jeans get soaked through - should I throw them away too OP?
or is it ok I continue to wash my soiled clothing or bedding and use them again?
what an odd thing to be shocked about.
I've been considering it, normal pads and tampons really irritate my skin and my body seems to be disagreeing with the mooncup now. Nowt to do with being green/environmental/certain groups, all to do with being more comfortable. Anything to make that time of the month more comfortable.
Hmm, yes I think I have above average green credentials but I do 7 loads of washing a week for a family of 4, everything on 40 degrees, sheets, towels and tea towels at 60 degrees. And believe me, I am absolutely not inclined to wash things pointlessly, I wash them when they are dirty.
Also, with four small kids, pretty much all the clothes in this house have had fluids or poo on them at some point...or maybe that's just how it feels some days
while potty training .
I do clothes at 30 degrees, but nappies do go on at 60 I'm afraid. Pads get chucked in with whatever is going on to wash as it doesn't seem to make much difference. We only do two nappy washes a week now that we've only got one in nappies (THANK THE LORD) and I tend to chuck towels in as well.
Fit in to a certain style of parenting - sorry but the poster who wrote that is not BU - it's the bf/cloth bumming babywearing/try and make other mums feel inferior club. I know because there's a clique of them here (where I live) who will come up to you and coo over your sling then ask if you cloth bum or use CSPs. And I say this as a bf/sometimes clog nappy using sling user. Some I was given bamboo breast pads there's no going back they are lush disposable ones do stink. To that end even though the local csp pushers irritate me beyond belief I might give them a go when I get periods back.
I also free bleed but I had v light periods
Yabu. Where do you think disposable ones go? Landfill is very icky. I read somewhere that there will have to be landfill mining in the future because we will have stuffed so many of the planet's resources in the ground. I don't want my grandchildren climbing around in landfill trying to separate blood soaked plastic and gel filled pads that don't decompose from more valuable materials. Mooncup clearly the way forward though, even better than washables
Mintyy I cheat a bit by only having 2 people in the house (me and DD) and I have substantially lower standards regarding the washing of sheets and towels than most on MN (I know this from threads devoted to these subjects). I am happy with my standards, though, and we both seem healthy and not smelly! I do more loads some weeks, but very, very rarely more than 3.
I wash most things on 30, I do nappies on 40 (as per instructions that came with them) and if I were using pads they would go in a cold soak, then into the usual wash with everything else.
Seriously they don't need to be hot washed. Cold water gets the blood out, I leave mine in the bathroom sink normally as I live with just my children (and they have another sink to use) but will probably get a small, covered bucket to use at some point. They can just go in the machine really with other clothes.
I have never run a hot wash on my machine, I think I did a 60 when we bought it because the book said so.
Cardi we have similar standards Lot to be said for singledom!
I wash my sanitary towels and cloth nappies on 40, with eco-friendly washing powder and I line dry them, apart from my cloth wipes which get chucked in with my other tumble dried clothes to keep them soft, never had an issue with them not being clean/smelly.
Oh and it adds up to an enormous total of 2 extra washes a week, I wash them every 2-3 days. Seriously, it's not that big a deal.
They are not for me but I think they are a good idea if you find them suitable.
I used reusable baby wipes and wish I had known about them 21 years ago when I had DD. It took me five DCs to discover them
But periods are fecking awful enough for me without making them that little bit harder. So I will pass on the reusable pads. Good for anyone who does make the effort though.
I don't talk about the cloth nappies (unless asked) because I got SO sick and tired of the 'oh but they leak and they smell, my mate bought them for hundreds of pounds and gave up after a week' brigade. Whatever you need to say to yourself to justify the sposies is fine, I don't care, I do care if you try to denigrate my choices to make yourself feel better. Honestly, why are people so hard on each other? I don't think anyone is lazy for using disposables, I just prefer to use cloth. So why do I get made to feel like I'm hippynutnuts/pretentious for using cloth nappies by other parents who've never even tried them?
Sorry. I digress.
I've stopped using disposables, tampons made my periods more painful and towels would give me the most horrendous nappy rash.
Since switching to a mooncup and washable pads my periods are lighter(could bleed through a superplus in less than 20 mins some days) less painful and i no longer spend my period wishing i had nice long nails.
I've saved a shit load of cash too, not having to spend a shedload for tampons and towels each month.
Been using reusable for about 2yrs and have spent a grand total of 25 pounds, i expect then to last at least 10yrs.
Ooh I forgot the reusable wipes - cheeky wipes are luverly
I think there is a place for disposable nappies/San pro and reusable ones. My personal opinion is if you mainly use reusable disposable is ok every now and then. I don't wear plastic pants, and really what's the difference? I understand some people are more squeamish than others but saying our blood is disgusting (paraphrasing) is Victorian at best. I really think a lot of people need to grow up a bit.
I also suspect this thread was started by someone hot and bored. It'll be ff/bf next.
It's weird how menstrual blood is considered 'unclean' whilst semen is regarded as no big deal.
I don't use them and think they sound gross tbh but it's none of my business what other people chose to use.
Fwiw the pill I'm on stops my periods altogether which is my preferred solution!
While we're all here: I bought some lovely new Fuzzy Bunz pads recently. They're so unbelievably soft, and the fleece really does feel dry.
The only thing is they slide around a bit. Any suggestions? I'm considering adding my own double sided tape, or velcro.
(I already use a mooncup, these are for those filled-hourly-but-can't-get-to-a-loo days)
I love threads like this
Op expresses surprise at something fairly normal, and asks why people do it.
Several people post comments saying yup I do that for reasons xyz, and I think it's great. Live and let live though, I get it'd not for you.
BUT YOU'RE ALL FUCKING WRONG!!!!! Ad infinitum
Makes for a fabulous discussion.
Haven't read the whole thread, but YABU. I used reusable pads for several years whilst working from home, as I became allergic to almost all brands of disposable ST after having DD3!
No more work than washable nappies (which I also used with DD3, for the exact same reason - v. sensitive skin meant she was allergic to the "lotions" in all but the cheapest, brandless nappies which just aren't absorbant to be usable), and no itchy, painful rash to deal with meant it was definitely worth it for me.
Yes no one seems to bat an eyelid at semen going all over the sheets, clothes etc.
Actually can anyone recommend some really good reuseable pads please?
Mine are getting on a bit!
Ooh! I can! these are soo lovely and comfy but they do shift around a bit. The bigger ones seem better.
They're like lovely soft fanny cushions. Make my old Wemoon ones feel like sand paper!
i'm astounded that you are astounded to be honest OP
why is that astounding? it's just another method of dealing with periods.
not everything has to come packaged in oodles of plastic to be used once and shipped off to india to fester for years while children wade through it
Ooh thankyou. They look gorgeous. mine used to be a bit tricky to attach as well, wondering what better methods of attachment there might be out there!
The ones with double poppers tend not to shift about.
I might add a second popper, then. I was thinking about maybe some of that non-scratchy Velcro you get on baby bits. (Not that I've just spent a fortune on these things or anything!)
I think this is a really weird thread.i dont generally care what someone does about their flow.
You should! What if you're missing out? My friend hated me after I mentioned the moon cup after we'd known each other 3 years. All those periods, all that discomfort. Had we just said "Hi I'm UBW and I use a moon cup" from the outset, she'd have been so much more comfortable. But no, women's bodies are "icky" and taboo, and we must be slaves to the disposable sanpro industries.
(Paragraphless rant intended. Slightly tongue in cheek. My friend doesn't really hate me but was genuinely gutted to have missed out for so long)
I use Charlie Banana pads. They are so freaking comfortable and way, way more effective than disposables. I used to use just a moon cup, but as I've got heavier after children, I need some extra protection. They're so amazing, I sometimes don't bother with the Mooncup now.
I can't quite bring myself to dry them on the line though....
I use reusable nappies, they are fab! Got them brand new off ebay for about £2.50 a nappy (it was a bonus that they came in lots of pattens and colours).
Reusable Wipes are awsome too! Would hate to give them up
But my best sanpo is the coil, no periods (before was a mooncup)
Hang on, I've got a coil and a mooncup, and yet I still need pads. I'm feeling shortchanged...
You don't need to use a hot wash for reusable sanpro.
Rinse as thoroughly as possible, Soak in cold water with a level teaspoon of salt then put in with a wash. Thats all I do, generally goes on a 30 degree and comes out fine.
The whole argument against washable sanpro centres around the "yuk" factor, the idea that our natural body functions are grotesque rather than just, you know, things our body does. Hence we get those sodding awful scented pads because we obviously stink for 5 days a month.
I'll tell you one reason that I switched. I read a thread on here about them and a poster mentioned how her cramps had eased up after switching. I had awful cramps, gave them a try and they worked. The first time. I will never go back now, the very small amount of time that I 'shock, horror' touch my own menstrual blood when rinsing the pad out is well worth the money saved, the easier periods I have and the lack of environmental impact my choice has.
YABU to just dismiss it, do some reading up.
I use cloth because shop bought stink, feel plasticky and feel uncomfortable.
OP, you do realise that there are members on both MN and the forum you saw the post on don't you?
Why dont you set up an appreciation club?
Only on mumsnet have I ever even heard of anyone:
a) using a mooncup
b) using disposable sanpro
c) using the term ' sanpro'
d) using the term 'free bleeding' (aka 'can't be arsed to stay hygienic)
I really do lead a sheltered life, is anyone with me on this?
Also to the poster who was trying to make a feminist point about semen not being a big deal - wtf? Who the he'll is happy to go out covered in semen? Do people really just put on semen stained clothes without washing them?
jesus woman it's a bit of blood - I really don't get the hysteria
when your child was born did you wait for them to be sterilized and scrubbed before holding and kissing them - because they had come out of your front bumbum
You wouldnt like my idea of washable period knickers then.
Just read this thread with fascination!
I hate disposable pads, they make me sore.
I don't like tampons, I can't seem to insert them.correctly, so I can feel them - for this reason I'm not sure that I want a mooncup.
So maybe washable sanpro is the way to go?
So users, how often do they need changing? And what do you do with dirty ones when out and about? Can you wash them with your normal clothes wash? (i can't see why not but am unsure as most people on here have said they wash them with nappies which are long gone in this house!)
I do and believe it or not they are lovely, very soft and comfortable and don't smell like normal pads or give you thrush
That's because on Mumsnet their are literally thousands of people discussing lots of things every day so you're probably bound to discover something you've not heard before.
I had my Mooncup long before I had Mumsnet.
I discovered cloth pads without the magic of interwebz too.
However since Mnet I did not realise that thousands of things that people do leave thousands of other people confused and dumbfounded, or even at times discusted and appauled.
what amazes me is that someone who lives near my work hangs them all out on her line just over the fence from where we all park, right at eye level, obviously she has no problems with this, just seems a bit "public" to me! (remember the thread last week about lady not being allowed to take bag to loo at work and hiding sanpro up sleeve? we don't generally like to have the world know when its that time, do we?)
I started using washable pads about 3 years ago. I've never liked insertable sanpro, so a mooncup was out. I decided to try them because of the environmental impact, but there were several other benefits.
1. My periods were lighter when I switched to cloth pads.
2. They felt much nicer against my skin.
3. There was very very little odour.
4. They were easy to clean (I have a small bucket of salted water with a lid in the bathroom. Used pads go in there to soak overnight. Once rinsed out in the morning there is very little blood remaining. The pads then get chucked in the washing machine.
5. Due to numbers 1 and 3, once a used pad is rolled up and put into a non-plastic carry case, there is no embarrassment or worry changing them through the day.
6. A lot of waste is saved from landfill.
7. Energy and plastics are saved in manufacturing them (I choose wool-backed fleece)
8. I support a small-business when buying them.
9. Money is saved in the long run. (Mine were £2.50 each. I have 6 and one carry case).
I now only use disposable if on holiday with no washing machine and I notice a huge difference when I do. My periods are heavier, have an odour and I feel less comfortable.
To me, there is no competition.
And the fact that its not (normally) acceptable to talk about bodies in public. (If you feel bound by normal societal/cultural customs)
"or even at times discusted and appauled" LOL (you missed the ' in times )
Yes you are, look into it before you judge it. I use cloth on my LO and he has never had nappy rash and it won't take 500 years to break down. Same with pads.
I am SO tired of people being precious and squeamish about periods. It's pathetic, sorry.
Cloth pads are great, they feel a zillion times nicer than disposables - very luxurious, in fact. Better for you and better for the planet, plus cheaper too.
Gordy, you just lost the argument because you called it the front bum bum...
some Qs for the knowledgeable please
does anyone have a teen DD who happily uses these? I think my 13 yo (just started) would use them happily because of the eco business, but would others at school be repulsed or laugh? do they really not smell or make you sweaty? do they not smell if you have to carry used ones round when out of the house, in this heat? are they thicker/visible under tight clothes? is there any reassuring leak proof backing? TIA
"what amazes me is that someone who lives near my work hangs them all out on her line just over the fence from where we all park, right at eye level, obviously she has no problems with this, just seems a bit "public" to me! "
don't you hand clean knickers on the line? I do- why wouldn't I? everyone wears them nothing embarrassing about that so nothing embarrassing about a woman of childbearing age using sanitary protection.
I do hang knickers on the line of course, carefully behind other items, as I do not want the neighbours judging them, ogling them or discussing them on MN! (LOL) and I would probably dry them indoors if my line was right next to a public car park, TBH!
why on earth do you care what people (strangers!) think of your knickers?
I'm sure more knowledgeable women will be along in a minute. To answer your questions:
1. Unfortunately, unless she is very confident and among like-minded peers, some may laugh at them.
2. You can get them with a UPVC backing, but I have never tried them so don't know if that impacts on smell/sweat.
3. Unless she is wearing skin-tight Lycra, they won't show. Another plus is that you don't get the rustle when changing them in a toilet cubicle.
You could get her some to try in the evenings/overnight and weekends and see how she gets on. If she loves them then she may use them during the school week too, or may prefer the conventional while with her peers.
I don't let strangers see me in my knickers, so I don't want them seeing my knickers at all.
I have "nice" lacy ones and big baggy stained period ones, I don't want pervs leering at them or cats bum mouths on here about them!
Maybe I am just more private than you?
Thanks for your post incredible, anyone else care to add to it?
I wear my knickers over my tights when the need arises- pitfalls of being a superhero
really though I don't think of knickers in terms of 'private' clothing. to me they're just another necessary item of clothing like socks or a t-shirt. I don't get the embarrassment factor. I have jeans with paint stains on them, shirts with food stains on them, nappies (when ds was in them) with various shades of poo on them and knickers with period stains on them (I do wash my clothes BTW but you know not every stain goes ) I hate that women are made to feel embarrassed of having periods.
Scented bag to pop them in? Just a thought
I am going to do some googling.
I like the sound of these things
Cant quite cope with a mooncup though...I know, ,I know!
charlie banana's come with a black zipable pouch for them to go in if you need to change them at school and bring dirty ones home.
I love my charlie banana's they are so soft and breathable. I used to hate the last day of my period because I felt so hot and sweaty. now I don't at all. Also the smell that I thought I had from my always ultra has totally gone and there is NO smell at all from my charlie banana's.
I love them so much I would go on an advert for them. They have pretty butterflies on them, but you can also get them in plain black or plain white.
If someone wants to oogle over my washing line, be my guest. But they will also see my DH's laundry and my DS's nappies drying do might be a bit of a turn off
I'mnot I do the superhero knickers thing too sometimes!
see, OP I never knew anyone else doing that, but I'm more than happy to learn
Tee it's called sarcasm - hth
thank you NKU (you don't work for them do you?)
This may help http://www.charliebanana.com/3-Feminine-Pads-Butterfly-Regular-Box_p_19.html
I mostly use a Mooncup but also use washable SanPro
DS's old Fluffle liner and soft flannels folded in three
They get rinsed before being washed so no smelly bloody rags hanging around
I also have no problem pegging them out on the sock thingy
you can make your own easily if you sew at all, for much cheaper. I'm sure there is a tutorial online somewhere.
Thats the reason i use muff fluff.
No chuff chafe with reusables. I also use a jam sponge or two. And cloth nappies on my kids.
I got terribly excited and bought some about 3yrs ago which had a gorgeous floral pattern and poppers to hold them on.
I was told that the blood would soak out.
It did nay soak out.
I threw away half a dozen stained floral cotton pads about a month after buying them...
Yes Gordy, so you should recognize it in return.
Besides, Dee just really won the internet. She's taken your prize. Sorry.
They do make extra slim pads especially for young users, a small wet bag with a zip is ideal for used storage and keeps in any smells (not that I've ever noticed any) none of my older girls have ever been laughed at or ever had a problem with them.
thanks sock - another Q if I may - do they really stay nice and soft and comfy - only someone else on here was on about just using folded soft flannels - now, our flannels are never soft and fluffy when washed - we have very hard water and they come out as stiff as cardboard - that's hardly gonna make for comfy sanpro.
I started using cloth pads a couple of months ago and you couldn't pay me to go back to disposable ones. No more sticky pads glued to my bush, none of that weird smell you get when the blood reacts with the chemicals in the pads, no rough plasticky edges chafing in this sweaty heat. Plus the extra super ginormous cloth ones are the only thing that's coped with my postnatal gushing periods overnight. I haven't had any trouble just bunging them in with the nappies to wash, and they come out pristine and don't stain the nappies.
I went on to washable san-pro when I was washing nappies and have stayed with them for the last 8 years.
I really like how comfortable they are. supersoft Minkee, velour etc
weenotions are good
and I like having dark colours instead of the white of the disposables.
I saw a pic in a magazine once, years ago, of all the little bits that get left behind (inside you) with tampons - so went off them.
I don't especially like the mooncup - although I do use one if I need to for swimming or whatever, I'd rather not use it all period.
I use washable sanpro and a mooncup.
I went out for the day with my DD (16) who got her period unexpectedly
I had a brand new Minkee washable in my bag.
She came back from the loo going OMG.
OMG what ?
OMG this is so soft and comfortable.
They mean you can give 2 fingers ( or one) to an entire industry devoted to telling women how smelly their bodies are , how their natural function should be hidden (discreet ) scented ( fresh)
I will never change back to chemical laden, scratchy, environmentally toxic products
Does that astound you OP ?
Long before the Internet joined in the fun!
OP, I wonder what you'd do in my situation. I'm allergic to disposables. Maybe you think you'd just put up with that.
I also have a health condition that (among other things) gives me five-week periods. All the time. There isn't a cure for my condition, not even in 2013, and it can be hard to stop the excessive periods without using drugs that give me unpleasant side effects. That makes the allergy a lot harder to put up with.
My health condition also makes me more prone to recurrent infections and thrush during my period. All five weeks of them. Maybe you think you'd just use tampons instead. Or even a mooncup. If you're that open-minded.
Because of scar tissue caused by my condition and repeat surgeries, I can't use tampons or mooncups. They cause me pain. What would you do then? Shoot yourself?
Actually, as you've probably guessed, I use cloth pads. I started using them out of necessity, but I've been completely converted, because - for me - they outperform disposables in every respect. THey really do make that time of the month (or that 70% of the year) easier for me - less pain, less hassle, greater comfort, greater protection. The washing isn't a big deal, yes, even five weeks' worth - I don't have to do extra loads above my normal. I'm not grossed out by it because I spend my life dealing with blood, and if it bothered me, I'd probably be deeply depressed by now. So I use cloth pads, because I love the change they've made in my life. Because I'm worth it .
It would be so easy for me to start up an AIBU thread with a load of offensive generalisations about women who use disposables. I could even end it with 'I know it's an individual's choice, I get that. But AIBU to be just astounded by that choice?'
What I don't ever do, though, is judge other women for any choices they make to make things easier for themselves during their periods, whether that's using disposables or dancing naked in the garden. I do, however, judge you for lack of compassion, lack of empathy, lack of good manners and general ignorance when you start a thread like this. Yes, ignorance, because it should still occur to you that there might be many reasons why people make a different choice to yours, even if you haven't experienced them. The same goes for all the people who leap on the bandwagon. It's 2013, yes, and using washable sanitary protection isn't what we should be beyond. But we should be beyond starting pointing-and-laughing-type threads at the silly people who don't know it's 2013 and don't know they're being gross. We should be beyond acting with unkindness, bad manners, all these things. If you're just after a reaction then you're probably lapping this up, but I'm saying it anyway for the sake of the 'OMG GROSS!' people who maybe haven't thought it through.
For the people who asked questions about teenagers, if you're worried about friends laughing at school, they don't need to know and they won't be able to tell. They don't smell, and I find them easy to change when I'm out and about, even for a whole day when my period's heavy. I do everything wearing them that I did wearing disposables, and some things that I didn't.
Cloth pads work very well for some people and less well for others. It's worth buying one to try it out. Sorry for the mammoth post.
well said thecat and thanks for your comments re my Qs about teenagers
I have the same problem with flannels but I think its more to do with how the fabric works because I don't have that problem with pads even ones made of cotton flannel the only reason I can guess at is on a washing flannel loads of looped fibres stick up but on the pads they don't I'm guessing that's why they don't go hard.
Oh what ever you do do not wash them with fabric softener it makes them feel weird and not absorb anything
Try a couple of the cheaper ones like minki regular (think I linked to that brand earlier) they are really soft double poppered have a visible waterproof backing ( ideal if your nervous before you get used to them) and see how she gets on with them before you buy more.
And have a look on YouTube as they have loads of tutorials and reviews mainly done by teenagers
I loved cloth nappies. My son loved his cloth nappies - he would squeel and complain about the 'horrible scratchy paper nappies' if someone put a disposible on him. I find tampons give me thrush if I use them throughout, so I tend to use them if I am out for the day on my first 2 days. I ALWAYS use cloth sanpro at night, the night pads have far more coverage! and will use them in the day if Im mainly at home. I cannot say Ive ever found it disgusting, smelly, inconvenient....
Ive tried the jam sponge. Probably for lighter days it might be an option. I dont relish washing it in public. Ive never braved a mooncup, even though I have one. Im a cloth and occassional tampons kind of girl.
Oh and mine go on the line, as did DS's nappies, and DD has already stolen some of my tiny ones because she found them 'comforting' when she suffered from chronic thrush due to longterm antibiotics and needed to use creams. she has asked for her own set when she starts her periods.
thank you sock - I think I am more and more inclined to encourage DD to give these a go - she likes to wear a panty liner every day just in case because things are rather erratic/unsettled - so that's a lot of waste (obv she changes a couple of times a day) and I worry about her being all sweaty and chaffing or brewing an infection of some sort
our council have just launched a massive recycling scheme with coloured wheelie bins (I know, about time) and I think she feels a little odd that just about all our rubbish is now down to her sanpro!
I don't get what is so astounding.
I kept meaning to get some but never got around to it. Now I have a mirena and no more periods. YAY!
It is just blood, it isn't a big deal.
Wouldn't you just give them a quick rinse and then chuck them in the wash in the next appropriate wash?
What is the drama?
This was probably answered on the thread, but I can't find it: how do you cope when out? What do you store the soiled pad in until you wash it?
As I get older I find tampons uncomfortable and mooncups just don't interest me, but I am tired of the cost of disposable pads. I would love an alternative.
a lot of them come with a special bag or pouch, or you just roll it up and put it in a plastic bag.
She may very well find that using reusable ones if nothing of any need happens then she won't need to change more than once a day at times when she's not bleeding.
Disposables can create additional discharge and sweating in many users.
I use reusable san pro and Nappies. In fact I make them too. 5 years ago the thought of it would have had me vomiting in my cereal But now No looking back and my sanpro has little sealable wetbags just like my daughters nappies.
You know what's minging? This:
One woman will use over 11,000 disposable sanitary products in a lifetime
22 tampons or towels are used, on average, each period
In the UK alone, 4.3 billion disposable sanitary products are used every year
These items, their packaging, applicators and backing-strips will end up in landfill or in the sea.
Tee, they don't get a mingy as disposable do. I used to just roll then up and pop them in a little make up bag.
Then, when I was lucky enough to be blessed with a free roaming toddler I put them in a nappy sack in a make up back .... Just in case
Do I win second prize....is it a pony? Or a years supply of ladies monthlies products and a huge bag to hide then in?
Tee the one I bought folds up into a square when you've used it. The poppers on the wings you flip back and that holds it together with the used bit tucked inside
Thanks everyone. I'll have to investigate further when I get back to the UK.
Gordy, I apologise if my joke in some way upset or offended you.
To the user asking about waterproofing: Look for pads with a PUL layer if you're worried about saturation. I made some pads and some breastpads with a layer of PUL in and no sweaty ickiness or thrush, which I can be prone to so it would have happened if it was going to.
PUL is what they use for nappy wraps and is breathable.
Thanks to whoever posted the link to Imse Vimse ( too lazy to scroll back).
I ordered some and they are lovely, beautifully made and nice and cool .My others are fleece so a bit warm.
Not like "rags" at all
It's not grim. It is blood, from my body. What's grim about that? No more "grim" than washing shitty nappies.
And actually, they are very comfortable & since I have been using mine I have not suffered thrush half as much as I used to. I made my for minimal outlay & because they are laundered properly, they are like new.
The initial outlay if you buy them, can be expensive, but you have to cost that against what you would spend on disposable products over the life time of your periods. I save at least $20 a month with mine.
it's all gone a bit Enoch Powell
I think a lot of it comes from the thinking that using cloth pads/nappies, using slings instead of prams etc is going "backwards". They invented disposables for convenience so why go backwards and use washables? Prams are all singing all dancing, why go backwards and use a bit of cloth? Isn't that a massive inconvenience?
This isn't what I think, just what some people seem to think.
I don't see what's so dreadful. Presumably they're washed between uses, and you can store them in a wet bag if you need to change to a fresh one, when out and about.
Aw, bless OP: you want to keep on giving money to large corporates to do environmentally unfriendly things to produce itchy disposable pads.
Just carry on. Those of us who know better just feel a bit sorry for you.
We just rinse 'em out in cold water and add them to the next appropriate wash. Why would you keep them in a bin for a week?
I think that's why they were referred to as "rags" up thread ,women did literally use rags in the past until disposables were invented.
I use a Mooncup and washables depending on what mood Im in and the Imse Vimse ones are far superior to any disposable Ive used .Soft and comfortable and no chemicals or that fishy smell associated with disposables. Tampon strings really make me itch. The problem is unless you have tried them you have no idea how much nicer they are !
I've used washable pads for years, some I bought and some I made. They are beautiful soft bamboo velour in gorgeous colours.
I use a two-part storage pouch/bag when out - clean pads in one side, used in the other - and keep a zipped PUL lined bag in the laundry basket for dirty pads.
It's for the evnronment but also me - who knows what vile chemicals are in those crystals; I don't want them sweating next to my nether regions for 1/4 of my life. I also find the cloth pads much comfier, and they hold more.
DD will be using cloth as soon as she needs to.
I'm glad you like Enoch Powell - I'm trying to popularise it ;)
Imse Vimse are lovely! I wish I had more of their nappies, but you don't see them second hand often and I never buy new nappies (CHEAPSKATE).
Ive just ordered some more for DD
Oh washable pads !
She has been out of nappies a while
Luxurymoon stock fab pads including some teen-sized ones
How good are they for quite heavy periods? Genuine question.
Mooncups or resuables I'm referring to btw.
They are great for whatever your flow. You can get them in a range of thicknesses and lengths and could add more layers if needed.
Also, you may find that your periods are lighter once you switch.
They are brilliant .
Have very heavy periods and they are way better . I don't experience any leaks with my Mooncup and generally find washables much more absorbant. I can go overnight on my heaviest day with my Mooncup.
Think about it -manufacturers of disposables want you to buy as many as possible not less !
I am actually astounded that the OP's has such a retro take on life.
Where have you been for the past decade? The world has moved on from disposable living. It is very passe.
The thought grosses me out but women must have used them up until fairly recently in history? Along with all sorts of other bits of fabric for mopping up/wiping away bodily fluids.
I've used them (can't use tampons or Mooncup) but I was too disorganised to keep up with the washing and was inclined to forget about my bucket of cold water where they'd be soaking! If it wasn't for that I'd still use them. Come to think of it I'm going to get them out and try again now I've read this.
They beat disposables on everything except for the organisation required to wash them, IMO. They were much much more comfortable - soft and clean and not rustly or sticky and plasticky. It's so good that you can change them silently when out and about (just unpopper the old one, fold in on itself and repopper to make a neat sealed square, then popper the new one in place). It's only the same as some people do if at a friend's house with a disposable - I tend to fold neatly seal them up well in a little bag and take those home too as I'd feel too embarrassed leaving one in a friend's bin.
Some of mine were black cotton and just fetl more invisible then and not like huge hospital style dressings!
I understand why people think it's icky at first but they're not "rags" at all, they washed brilliantly so they were like new every time. Felt great too.
I think there's a place for disposable paper products where past generations have used cloth.Take paper tissues - I hate it when someone with a cold uses the same manky cloth hanky all day and never washes their hands. I think sanitary protection is a good case where disposable paper is good for those who like it but absolutely not essential for hygiene though, so for those who like it it's a great thing for the environment to use cloth versions.
My only problem with reusable would be that now that the Dcs are older, the washing machine isn't on every day and very rarely on a high temp wash, which I presume you would need? I would have them lying about for a few days I until the wash goes on which would be a bit gross I think.
Why do people (me AND women, which is even weirder IMO) get so horrified by menstruation?
I got a fright as a child when mum clumsily explained to me the reason she bought 'those things' was because she bled out of her vagina. (Bad wording mum!)
But I'm an adult now. I've given birth. I don't get the disgust. It's just nature. It's not like I'm wandering around with a leaf to cover my fanjo ffs.
it's the bf/cloth bumming babywearing/try and make other mums feel inferior club
I didn't use cloth nappies. I didn't babywear, I did bf my second dc, but only until she was 5mths & I am not trying to make any one feel inferior.
I didn't start using them until my youngest was 2, almost out of nappies. It came about because I was getting recurrent thrush & while googling, I found that disposable sanpro could be a cause. Indeed, I had noticed that it usually happened during my period, so decided to try washable sanpro, and have been free of thrush ever since.
if you feel inferior because I use washables, that isn't my problem. I use them for comfort, not because I want to prove a point.
Funny how things go in cycles, I can remember my mother telling me how lucky we are today to have disposable pads and tampons because as a teenage girl she had to wash out her own rags and it was a chore and an inconvenience and did make you feel dirty.
But heyho, thats the cycle of life, people now choosing to feel like that. Madness.
What's the consensus on which makes work best?
I don't feel like that !
They are not "rags" and I have a perfectly good and modern washing machine . They are nicer, softer and more comfortable than disposables.
I prefer them .
Noone in RL would even know that I use them or a Mooncup.
My favourite are Homestead Emporium but everything I've tried has been better than disposable in terms of reliability
So users, how often do they need changing? Change as often as needed, you will know how often this is
And what do you do with dirty ones when out and about? I have a wet bag that I use while out & about
Can you wash them with your normal clothes wash? ^Yes, I do. I rinse them, then soak them in cold water until I do a wash (usually a day, 2 at most). They go into a laundry bag & into any wash.
Mermaid why would you throw them out because they were stained? You're only going to bleed on them again...
I use cloth nappies, mooncup and reusable wipes. Have toyed with the idea of cloth toilet wipes instead of loo roll (since I've the nappy bucket on the go anyway) but DH vetoed
And I have similar washing habits to cardibach.
I don't especially enjoy having periods and it's one time in my life when I think I should have a level of convenience and comfort. I've used reusables and didn't like them. I much prefer disposables. As for disposable nappies and landfill. Didn't they do a study a few years ago which said the energy used washing cloth nappies is a big a drain on the environment as pampers in landfill. I can well believe it.
I used cloth nappies with dd1 and my washing machine was always on.
I guess you would be washing more with nappies, as they are constantly used. Washable sanpro is (usually) only used for a week or so, so no need for the washing machine to be constantly on. Also, because they are smaller, they don't really need their own wash. They fit in with other stuff easily.
dementedma, mine don't go on a hot wash, 30 or 40 is good enough. Even a cold wash would be OK, if you rinsed them, soaked them etc.
usually, that study was totally flawed, they calculated based on one child, washing at 90C, tumbling and ironing iirc. Lanfill and energy use are different problems too.
Anyway there's nearly nothing left in them for the machine to have to deal with, after a good rinse and a cold water soak.
My dn goes in for frequent nose bleeds but I can't see paper clothes and bedding being the answer!
Fabric that (clean) blood has been on, but has then been washed out of again, must be fine, or we'd all be throwing things away left right and centre.
And I am a really fussy bugger about hygiene - I think pants with skid marks are far yuckier than washable pads and yet no one blinks an eye at washing those and reusing them.
Ah, the oft quoted but never linked to mythical study that proves reusable nappies are as bad for the environment as pampers.
Just stop and think about it for a minute.
Once you have had a lovely soft piece of cloth next to your fanny then you just dont want disposable stuff
I like being hippy and its far more comfortable, cheaper in the long run and less waste.
Leo Hickman in the Guardian debunked that one usuallyright
''To say that throwing them away is no worse than washing them is, to me, as logical as saying that there's no difference between taking your clothes off at the end of the day and tossing them in the bin''
Personally I couldn't give a fuck how other people deal with their periods. I have more important things to think about.
I wouldn't personally choose to use these as I didn't choose to use cloth nappies. But I accept it is probably better for the environment. Mooncups sound dreadful messy things. I'd never consider using one.
I didn't even know that you could get disposable sanitary pads in 2013 , I'm going to have a look as I think they sound a great idea. I didn't get along with the mooncup but these could be a good alternative.
OMG, they even make cloth tampons! I am really that I had no idea that they did these!
really? how does that work?
hmmm, I'm not sure about something not sterile being inside for hours.
yes, I know a penis isn't sterile either, but neither it is there for hours!
As far as I know tampons are not sterile.
Does anyone know where I can buy organic cotton reusable pads?
I don't see any problem as long as they are being washed properly, in the old days women had to do that. In fact, my mother taught me how to do them in case I did not have money to buy disposable.
Google it minimalist, I just did, there's loads of companies out there
"Mooncups sound dreadfully messy things"
Try one - far cleaner, nicer and more convenient than tampons.
omg. af cane in unexpectedly early whilst staying at family's and I had to borrow some disposable sanpro. ugh ugh ugh. is like dealing with a massacre and soooo uncomfortable and sweaty. tampon just vile and tripled my cramps. remembered why I like mooncup or cloth if mooncup not a possibility.
(because this is one of the only places I can rant about such things. Even my sister gets very when I 'go all hippyish' on her)
Minimalist I have Minki fleece for the winter and Imse Vimse Organic cotton ones for the summer. Easy to find if you google.
OMG am a genius- Seasonal sanpro ,bet always haven't thought of that !
Thanks for this thread all, I've just had my coil out so sadly am back to having periods after 6 lovely menstrual-free years.
My mooncup has been dug out and dusted off, but I have a very light flow for a day or two at the end and have always used eco disposable panty liners before. But now I've ordered some reusables and am very excited about them! I did use cloth nappies for both DDs so I was aware of them from nappy websites and had toyed with the idea before. Now is the time!
shit do the Imse Vimse ones come without the leak proof lining? I was after ones that were 100% natural but really liked the look of them.
I'm really excited about using them. Disposable ones are sweaty.
I think the pantyliner ones do but if you are someone with reasonably heavy periods I cant imagine them without - it would leak straight through.
They are still much less claggy than disposables.
I just bought some inspired by this thread... Can't wait for them to arrive!
Double get an old container(with a lid) and some salt to give them a good soak in cold water before washing.
Bit icky I know, but does anyone know how absorbent they are? I need to use a superplus tampon with a night time pad, and still need to change every hour for the first 2 days. Would these cope?
double what brand did you buy?
Leo Hickman in the Guardian debunked that one usuallyright
I've just read that. I was expecting a convincing piece of journalism which might alter my opinion.
I feel exactly the same.
And certainly when I was using cloth nappies, the washing machine was on all the time. To the extent that it died and we had to buy a new one.
Justforlaughs I use night pads for my really heavy days - I change every two hours and they're still fine with no leaks. Why don't you buy a couple and see how you get on before committing to a full set.
It was a MN thread that inspired me to buy mine several months back. I never liked tampons but they were the easiest thing to use. But when I say easy, sometimes I was too dry and inserting it was painful, at other times it would suddenly become full at an inopportune moment, and alternatively you know you can't take one out if it's not wet enough, all awful painful moments. Pads were noisy to wear, noisy to put on and noisy to remove as well as being smelly, so not an option. These cloth pads are wonderful. I don't feel it because it's cloth. They contain everything and they don't smell. I rinse them each night and then put on a stain remover and put them through a quick 30 minute wash so I never have a collection of dirty ones in the house. I bought 6 and this usually sees me through though at some point I will buy some more. I probably would have been embarrassed to do this if my OH weren't such a feminist, he really supported the change and if I go to bed without taking the pad out of the machine he will hang it up for me. I am not particularly eco friendly, a hippy or anything counter culture. I haven't told my friends as I assume they'd be as shocked as I would have been, and perhaps as judgemental as others out there. To each her own!
Gladrags - without much research as were easy to buy but now worried I've not bought the best brand...
Its a bit trial and error Double
I have some I prefer over others and only buy 3 or so of a new brand.
What did you get ?
They're called 'gladrags'
Gladrags look good, double! But as mentioned before, it is trial and error.
I made mine, need to make some more soon & love choosing fabric for them.
Good luck & I hope they work for you!
I went to university with a girl who thought non-applicator tampons were shrieky, hysteria-inducing abominations because they involved you touching your own bits.
Years later she friended me on FB and was moved to post a status update, this time shrieking in a what-fresh-hell-is-this?! manner, about mooncups.
Honestly - what is it about menstruation that sends some people completely bonkers...? It is something that I generally give zero consideration to and it just bamboozles me that other people seem to care so deeply about how other women manage their cycle. It's weird. You're weird, OP.
And I say this as a non-green, tampon-devotee.
DonDrapers my mother also thought tampons would ruin your virginity. I never wore tampons until I moved to London and my Polish friend told me about them (to use them when we went to the gym for a swim). It could have been a cultural thing for them.
I only used them once or twice, I don't like things going up my vagina apart from DH of course
I meant it could have been a cultural thing for your friend, some of my muslim friends are not familiar with a tampon too. I was raised catholic.
If someone's had a mooncup, but wanted to use washables as back up, how many would you need to get?
Yes indeed OP it is 2013 and it's about time women had decent sanpro and better options available. For me the better option has been the Mooncup and I'm glad (thanks to MN) that I switched. I think more and more women will start to use non-disposables because they are better.
How can any one compare the old rags that women used to use and wash in a cold bucket of water to the nice and soft washable pads of today? Not to mention that we have these things called washing machines...
Originally disposable sanpro was created as a way to use up the leftover and overstocked gauze and cottonwool left over from WWI. I actually think that sanpro was better in the early 90's before all the plastic covers, plastic applicators, scented and bleached products and those horrible gel beads.
Last year I had a horrible incident with a pantiliner. I'm used to the cheaper type (like Carefree) that is basically paper on top and paper fluff in the middle. When it get's wet it's just well, wet paper. I was going out to our pool with DH and DS (6 at the time) and since I was just finishing my period and wearing a white bikini and put a pantiner on. I didn't realize I had grabbed an Always one that was a free sample.I laid out by the pool when they were swimming then hopped in for a couple of minutes just before we left. My crotch started burning and I got out right away with DS. We couldn't figure out why he had what looked like tadpoles all over his body and stuck to his hair. When we got back inside (crotch still burning) I found out that the liner contained gel beads, and instead of just getting wet it had kept absorbing water until it torn apart. I ended up with a yeast infection, bladder infection, and antibiotics . Horrible.
One of the other benefits of the Mooncup is not having to empty a boaksome bin of used sanpro and the end of your period. No more going to the loo clutching your handbag, no more bladder and yeast infections, and no more need for horrible pantiliners at the end of your period. Oh, and no more dried out menopause style fanjo caused by tampons at the end either.
Maybe, Lavidaenrosa, though like me she is a Kiwi and we're a non-God-fearing, heathen lot, who really do not having cultural idiosyncrasies like that!
Tampons were fine, it was just non-applicator ones which sent her doolally.
WRT the mooncup. I am using one for the first time and like it a lot. However, it's a bit... noisy when I take it out. Farty, squelchy, whatever. It's loud. I'm dreading rather the removal in a public loo. Tips? Or is this something I just grin and bear!
Great post Honeystep
Washable sanpro and a mooncup are way superior to chemical laden, uncomfortable ,disposable ,smelly, marketed at me with discreet and scented ( aka be ashamed and you smell bad) bollocks and they end up either in the sea or landfill.
You need to break the seal Miss
Btw, for those of you who are handy with a sewing machine and have material left over, there are several charities that take donations of reusable sanitary pads to send to girls in Africa who either make do with newspaper, or free bleed outside. One set of pads would really help a young woman be more comfortable for many years.
I used disposable towels and tampons for my first 20 years of menstruating.
I now use cups and washable towels, I do this because I find they are much BETTER.
I have experience of both and know which I prefer. So many people have ZERO experience of anything but disposbles and yet know that the reusable route is 'horrible' or 'disgusting', how? How can you know this?
Can I just ask how you ladies go on with washables at work if you have to have bags etc searched? I use washables apart from the days I do a shift of more than 3 or 4 hours as I don't know what I would do with a used one as we have to have our bags thoroughly searched and pockets emptied etc. Hate using disposables now as they make me all itchy and sore!
Still waiting! Post is sloooow. I think I made a mistake cos I got two packs of three, so wondering if I kept one not touched they'd take it back if I didn't like the size/ fit? The advice I saw on here about those with two poppers less likely to move around, well that's annoying as the ones I bought have one popper! Ah well
Itsnot you have bags searched when you leave?? Gosh. I think I'd get a waterproof bag for my used ones and tell them what's in it. I am shameless though.
I have a special bag made my the same company that makes towels, one side is waterproof one not, so I keep clean towels in one side and used ones in another. because they fasten onto your pants with poppers, you can popper them into a little square with the used side inwards.
Anyone who wanted to insect the contents would be welcome, doubt they'd delve in there more than once though
"Inspect the contents" reminds me of my mother's tale of a bag inspection at school, and the teacher finding a long- lost cottage cheese sandwhich... he never probed deep in that bag again!
When I return to normal cycles, I think I'll be investing in reusable san-pro/ moon cups. Little need at present due to having a young baby. It's only recently I've heard of the sanpro, but that will be a doddle after having a toddler in reusable nappies! Given the number of leaks I've had into underwear that's been washed, that's not a major difference. It's like the "eeuugghh, poo!" reaction to reusable nappies- I wouldn't ditch clothes that have been poonamied into anyway.
Yes the temptation to let them look is quite strong but I just don't think I could do it! The problem is, if there's a small bag which I don't want searching, the company would probably assume I was trying to conceal a stolen iPod or something!
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