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this "festivals as fashion show" thing gives me the Rage

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dirtyface Sun 14-Jul-13 13:52:43

i am a music lover and as a teenager / early 20 something i used to go to festivals every summer

think the PROPER festivals, donington, ozzfest, reading festival etc. a fashion show they were Not. it was actually about the bands and music and just having a proper good time and not really giving a shit what you were wearing as long as you were reasonably comfortable. apart from maybe if you wore a t-shirt of your favourite band. not designer brands, a face full of make up, and artfully dishevelled "festival hair" hmm

but "nowadays" its just soooooo cool to be "seen" at festivals. it doesn't seem to be about the music anymore. it seems to be more about posing. this whole "festival as fashion show" bandwagon thing only came about in the last 5 or 10 years. and now ever summer, every vacuous shitty womens mag is saturated with "festival fashion" articles and what celeb twats like kate moss are wearing at glastonbury. as if the paps will be snapping you every 5 minutes in your generic hunter wellies and ray bans.

bugs the shit out of me (but as i said i am an old gimmer of 33 who doesn't go to them anymore anyway so what do i know grin )

I think if you still went to them you'd realise that the photos in the papers are not representative of the general look of the crowd.

Why did you stop going?

dirtyface Sun 14-Jul-13 14:10:01

well i have 2 dcs now and its not really practical

plus now i am older i hate camping and being grotty, i like my creature comforts too much grin

they were amazing fun when i was younger though

LadyBeagleEyes Sun 14-Jul-13 14:11:02

There's all sorts of people that go to festivals.
Why does it matter to you what other people wear?
And at 33 of course you're not too old.

I'm older than you, and DS and I are going to a festival on Thursday until Sunday. Maybe try a smaller one? Lots of them are really child-friendly.

dirtyface Sun 14-Jul-13 14:13:45

Why does it matter to you what other people wear?

it doesn't matter to me as such. people can wear whatever they want of course. i just find the whole festival fashion thing a bit cringey

StuntGirl Sun 14-Jul-13 14:29:08

I think you should get off your high horse, stop reading the fashion mags and actually go to a festival so you can see you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

When I'm at a festival the last thing I care about is what others are wearing. Unless its the guy in a Naruto robe and a Borat mankini. We avoided him like the plague for obvious reasons grin

CloudsAndTrees Sun 14-Jul-13 14:31:03

People are still enjoying the festivals just as much as you did in your day. If they are doing it slightly differently, so what? It's their festival now.

BoulevardOfBrokenSleep Sun 14-Jul-13 15:44:38

Just because the papers/magazines run articles on Buying A New Outfit To Wear To A Festival, doesn't mean people actually do it, y'know.

not really giving a shit what you were wearing as long as you were reasonably comfortable

Soooo....you'd be quite happy wearing your Bon Jovi T-shirt to watch Megadeth play? grin

PatsyAndEddy Sun 14-Jul-13 15:50:37

It's hard as we age not to become all 'back in my day it was about the music man' and import these hipster kids know fuck all about fuck all. It's because your day was your day as you've stepped back from the scene and now reminisce through rose tinted spectacles.

I'm the same age as you, two dcs and still go to one or two festivals a year. All I see is people enjoying the music.

WorraLiberty Sun 14-Jul-13 15:56:38

Can't you just stop reading the vacuous shitty womens mags? grin

bettycocker Sun 14-Jul-13 16:29:24

I don't go to festivals these days as I don't really like camping. I suspect they are much the same as they were when I used to go. People go for the music and to get completely wankered for the weekend.

FreyaSnow Sun 14-Jul-13 16:36:32

Thinks like Reading were never 'proper' festivals. They were always commercial, mainstream festivals. Proper festivals were all the free festivals that anybody could afford to go to which were effectively banned in the early nineties. Commercial festivals developed out of that tradition. Celebrities going to festivals and being photographed in the fashions of the day has always been a standard part of commercial festivals from the sixties onwards. It isn't a thing that happened in the last five years.

There isn't a right age to go to festivals. Everyone from babies to the elderly goes to festivals.

webwiz Sun 14-Jul-13 16:43:51

DD2(20) is at a festival now (she is working for her ticket) she has just taken a random collection of shorts and t shirts and a hoodie for if its cool at night. She didn't want to take too many clothes because then there wasn't enough room for the cans of cider.

Flobbadobs Sun 14-Jul-13 17:33:09

I have been to smaller festivals in the past few years and if you look at the official pictures like the ones on the websites you'd think it was sponsored by Boden! However I was there and I know that there was a mixture of allsorts of people and clothes (or in some cases lack of...).
I do know what you mean, the emphasis on the bigger festivals is all about the image projected by the festival goers but if you were actually there it would be different.

defineme Sun 14-Jul-13 17:39:46

I've been going to festivals for 24 years (39th birthday tomorrow!) and I think young things have always liked dressing up-I can remember girls in full wedding dresses Goth styley at my first Reading when I was 15.
The general masses have always dressed in a similar way-it just happens to be designer wellies and denim. hotpants for the last few years-no one seems to notice my ordinary jeans and primark wellies though.
I would never camp these days-I usually find the nearest premier inn-there's always loads of people doing the same.

SmiteYouWithThunderbolts Sun 14-Jul-13 17:58:54

You should go somewhere like Download or Sonisphere (whenever it comes back, sigh). Definitely very few fashion-conscious types there!

I must admit, I don't understand people who try to dress nicely at festivals. You get muddy/dusty, sweaty, smelly. Why go to the bother of worrying about wearing a frilly frock! I've never been to the likes of Glastonbury or Reading (well I did do Leeds about 10 years ago, but it was still a 'proper' festival back then) but the festivals I go to are much more about the music than the image.

Borisboohoo Sun 14-Jul-13 17:59:17

I know exactly what you mean OP. It was always dress for the weather/comfort/band tees when I used to go late 90s/early noughties then all of a sudden people were in 'going out' stuff. Took me by surprise and made me feel very old grin At Glastonbury a few years ago I saw into someone's tent as I walked past and they had a hanging rail (one of those metal wardrobe things on wheels) with all their clothes on shock

It's like students nowadays. We were scruffs and proud of it. They look really styled. It just highlights how lazy I am!!

TondelayoSchwarzkopf Sun 14-Jul-13 18:03:53

I'm 39 and used to work at music festivals back in the day mid-90s and they've always had their share of fashionistas IME, some more than others.

Difference is the fashion mags have caught onto them and use them as editorial to sell clothes. And there are a lot more mags and festivals.

I don't think it's news that music and fashion have a relationship with each other. Sonisphere is just as style conscious as Coachella - just with a different 'tribe' grin

Bonsoir Sun 14-Jul-13 18:05:12

The purpose of women's magazines is to provide a platform for advertising consumer goods like fashion and cosmetics to women. Ergo they think of any ridiculous editorial they can that will attract advertisers and gullible readers. It's not The Economist, attempting to enlighten you with Truth!

PatsyAndEddy Sun 14-Jul-13 18:45:27

I wear flowery dresses all the time, they do not require any effort, paired with all stars or dm boots depending on the weather, hair up, headband and sunnys, it's no effort!

DoJo Sun 14-Jul-13 20:27:30

I have noticed that there seems to be 'uniforms' at some of the festivals (only go when husband's playing) - a few years ago it was furry animal suits. then tutus and I'm assuming that this year it will be the ever present onesie. None of which are actually that practical to wear to a festival in the high temperatures of summer, but I just assume that they are all having their own kind of fun and let them get on with it.

HairyGrotter Sun 14-Jul-13 21:20:13

I'm a festival goer, adore them, do 3 a year (Download, Standon and Reading) and I like to play the 'name 3 songs of the band t-shirt you're wearing' all fun and games grin

I just let others crack on and giggle at some of the wonderfully ill prepared lovelies staggering about grin

PatsyAndEddy Sun 14-Jul-13 21:23:25

Oh that is such a wanky thing to do hairy although I do get twitchy at band ts on sale in primark!

HairyGrotter Sun 14-Jul-13 21:26:35

Meh, I'm 32 and a grouch wink most of the youngers enjoy it and take it with good faith smile

I only do it to obvious primark t-shirt/vest wearers, one even said 'oh I though the Ramones was a primark brand' confused haha she was lovely though and we had a giggle

PatsyAndEddy Sun 14-Jul-13 21:30:00

It should be 3 album tracks and the last time you seen them live!!

HairyGrotter Sun 14-Jul-13 21:31:25

I'll do that at Reading this year! I might be pleasantly surprised (I hope!)

Totally agree OP!

All these starlets you see in "festival fashions" with perfect boho hair and toting designer bags aren't really participating in festivals, just prancing around the VIP area at Glastonbury. It's this kind of thing the women's magazines latch onto, not the REALITY which is hair caked in Batiste because you can't wash, wellies and a Kag In A Bag smile

PatsyAndEddy Sun 14-Jul-13 21:38:01

I did get someone a good one whilst wearing a keith richards top. Middle aged man set off on a rant about teeny boppers in stones clothes. Turns out I've seem them live twice (pre glasto) to his none! I wiped the floor with him on general knowledge of the rolling stones. Was a good way to spend half an hour in the pub and I earnt a free pint!

WireCat Sun 14-Jul-13 21:42:19

Op yanbu!

It's utterly shite!

<Old gimmer used to do glasters & Reading>

Tanith Sun 14-Jul-13 21:46:02

Did Reading and Glastonbury years ago - can't afford it now and I don't sit easy with the style these days.

Op, get yourself down to Beautiful Days in Honiton next year (sold out this). Much better atmosphere, imo.

StuntGirl Sun 14-Jul-13 21:50:57

I don't think it's news that music and fashion have a relationship with each other. Sonisphere is just as style conscious as Coachella - just with a different 'tribe' grin

Exactly.

www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/126/

(Oh how I wish this was a proper forum with proper image links...)

WireCat Sun 14-Jul-13 21:55:32

I can't fire the big festivals anymore. Makes me feel a bit sad sometimes if I'm honest! hmm

londone17 Sun 14-Jul-13 21:57:15

Yanbu op! Or am I just getting old lol?!

KatyTheCleaningLady Sun 14-Jul-13 22:04:58

If you guys want to see some... interesting... festival fashion, Google images of The Gathering of the Juggalos.

LynetteScavo Sun 14-Jul-13 22:13:07

Yes, but if you did go, you'd know they aren't actually like that.

Just like London, New York and LA aren't actually swarming with thin fashionable people, just ordinary people, going about their own thing.

(Notice I missed out Paris there)

But then, there will always be those with their pretty dresses and blow dried hair, where ever you go.

StuntGirl Sun 14-Jul-13 22:18:27

Ahhhh Katy I was a Juggalette once...no make up though blush grin

StuntGirl Sun 14-Jul-13 22:20:16

Oh god I can't believe I just admitted that haha. Luckily no one will really know what we're on about! grin

Itsmymove Sun 14-Jul-13 23:01:09

I was at a festival this very weekend and was just saying how 10/15 years ago us girls would take weeks planning our outfits/hats/jewellery!

I'm now 34 and opened the wardrobe, grabbed obligatory denim cut offs and off i went (and probably felt more confident in myself than I did back then!)

Now lying in bed and can still here the music for T in the Park ten miles up the road!!! envyenvy

dirtyface Mon 15-Jul-13 08:26:20

ha !! @ gathering of the juggalo's

i remember that band, had NO idea they were still around

ZillionChocolate Mon 15-Jul-13 08:43:35

HairyGrotter, perhaps this is the t shirt for you? Far more practical than play/jump/cat suits which seem to be recommended even though they're completely unsuitable for festival toilets, even back stage ones.

musicposy Mon 15-Jul-13 08:48:22

I'm going to a festival next week with DH and my two teens. I won't see my younger teen for dust (she's 13) as all her friends are going.
However, going seems to require buying cheap tutus and packing onesies. I'm not sure why as I'm an old gimmer! I will just be in my normal scruffy clothes.

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Mon 15-Jul-13 09:35:02

Yeah, I hate to say it, but you're on the periphery now, it's the next generation's turn, and you are the old gimmer. grin

I mean this nicely, I am older than you.

But that's life. You're not in your twenties anymore, and you're not supposed to 'get' 20-somethings, because you're not one.

If you're not careful, you'll end up sounding like someone's Mum, bemoaning the youth, and the fact that it's not like it was in your day.

It's mind-boggling how very short one's peak, prime-of-life years are. You blink and they're over. At 39, I am not part of it any more, and it does make me sad if I dwell on it.

But I'm damned if I'm going to go on about how rubbish young people are, and how they're doing it all wrong. Because all that does it utterly confirm how deeply out of touch I am. wink

SHarri13 Mon 15-Jul-13 09:41:52

I'm with you a bit OP, festivals ate fashinable now, people who wouldn't have dreamed of going 5 years ago are loving them now. But there's loads more of them, more music styles etc.

I quite fancy secret garden party but I'm not sure I'd come with the aftermath.

SHarri13 Mon 15-Jul-13 09:42:18

*are fashionable.

JRmumma Mon 15-Jul-13 09:56:45

I think the whole essence of festivals has changed. I attended about 2 a year from 18 years old for about 10 years but stopped going a few years ago as they just aren't the same anymore. They now seem to be full of the sort of people id rather avoid, those who are there to be seen etc. That's fine, but its not me so ive bowed out.

I also font think you can say you've 'been' to a festival if you aren't camping for the duration. That's a big part of the experience.

BitOfAFatCowReally Mon 15-Jul-13 10:09:15

It's a bit sad that people consider themselves too old to go to festivals just because they're in their thirties. Or forties. Or fifties! Etc. Etc. Touch wood, we've all got a good few years in us yet and we are allowed to have fun.

bakingaddict Mon 15-Jul-13 10:10:33

I made the mistake of being at Westfield this weekend. Lots of young girls with denim cut-offs and flowers in their hair for the Wireless concert

Thing is most festivals are frequented by vast numbers of young people and young people seem to be very tribal in nature. I guess they have yet to develop a real sense of self-confidence so will wear whatever their friends wear or copy celebrities in crappy mags

ARealDame Mon 15-Jul-13 10:12:13

Thanks for original post, interesting thread.

I am in my 50s and going to my first music festival soon, lol!

It does sound like festivals are more mainstream, and numerous! When I was young, there were very few music festivals. Certainly, it was a tiny minority that went to them in the 80s - and no-one that I ever knew.

Though DonDraper does have a point, I still think its OK to comment on the impact of negative things, including increased commercialism. Noticing developments, both positive and negative, are inevitable. But good to dwell on the positives too?

And nice idea to find smaller, more alternative, family-friendly festivals?

dirtyface Mon 15-Jul-13 10:25:23

yeah thats what i mean sharri - they have become fashionable, i think thats what irritates me grin

and i think that a lot go just because of that. not all, but lots i bet

happyyonisleepyyoni Mon 15-Jul-13 10:59:16

I'm going to my first festival for 20 years this weekend with DH, two tweenagers and a toddler. Can't wait!! Unfortunately, I still look 40 even in "festival fashion".

One thing that has not changed is that there is always someone moaning that things aren't what they used to be in the good old days!

HairyGrotter Mon 15-Jul-13 11:04:59

Zillion, you are a legend! I'm so getting one of those bad boys ha!

HairyGrotter Mon 15-Jul-13 11:15:05

Also, I do take a onesie, but only to sleep in as it does get chilly in the tent at night. I'd never be seen in it outside the tent! Also, as a previous poster said, trying to attempt to go to the toilet in a onesie is insane.

I'm taking 5 year old DD to her first festival in two weeks and I've taught her to 'owl' over the toilet, it's an invaluable lesson for her! Can't wait, I'll be going to festivals till I'm well into my 70's if possible, with she wee in hand!

LookMaw Mon 15-Jul-13 11:15:51

There's a festival in the town I grew up in this year, when three of my favourite bands are playing (Edward sharpe & the magnetic zeros, white denim & the mystery jets). Pretty much everyone I know is going because Mumford & sons are playing. And the rest are going because it's something to do.

It has really boiled my piss because it sold out so quickly I couldn't get a ticket, and I don't feel like the bastards some people actually deserve to go because they
have no interest in the great music that's gonna be there!

I'm sure I'll see loads of statuses and pictures on Facebook though. Along the lines of 'watching some weird band play waiting for Mumford n sons yaaaaay!' and moody side on profiles of their faces in raybans drinking rekorderlig.

Bitter? Me?

Flobbadobs Mon 15-Jul-13 11:23:46

Hairy someone did the name 3 songs thing with DS when he wore a Stones t-shirt (given to him by a friend). He named 5 grin. He was 10 at the time, loves the Stones and bizarrely AC/DC with a little Noah and the Whale thrown in... His playlist is rather eclectic!
Did anyone watch the documentary about Glasto a couple of weeks ago? It covered the less commercial, more 'alternative' areas mainly over the course of about 20 years. It looked to me like it was all about image even then!

vladthedisorganised Mon 15-Jul-13 11:25:06

You can always rest easy in the knowledge that your original clothes will become 'retro' soon enough.

That's the excuse I use anyway! "It's an original 1995, daaahling.."

ImNotBloody14 Mon 15-Jul-13 11:28:11

1) you sound envious of those that are still getting to festivals

2) why does it matter what the wear or whether they are there for the music or just a good time with mates?

HairyGrotter Mon 15-Jul-13 11:30:14

I do have a few original Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Mudhoney t's but don't wear them because I loom a bit of a div.

My daughter has a few band t's, I got pulled up on her wearing her Deftones one, and the guy was a bit short about it saying 'she doesn't know who they are, why would you force her to wear it'...erm, she's named after a Deftones song, she can fucking own that shit.

I love talking to young and old about their music taste, and I like seeing people discover new music, myself included, hence I love festivals.

BackforGood Mon 15-Jul-13 11:32:55

So, if you are annoyed by the "festivals as fashion show" why are you buying / reading the magazines that are promoting this ? confused

MarmaladeTwatkins Mon 15-Jul-13 12:16:29

"2) why does it matter what the wear or whether they are there for the music or just a good time with mates?"

Because tickets are limited and there are actual music fans who's quite like to go but don't get a look in!

If you want to have a good time with your mates, there's always Alton Towers.

MarmaladeTwatkins Mon 15-Jul-13 12:21:11

Also, "having a good time with mates" seems to consist of sitting on one of your mate's shoulders to get on telly, taking selfies of you looking like a twat in your contrived Topshop flower headband/fringed t-shirt and trying to emulate the pictures of Chantelle Houghton at V last year.

<grumpy old cow>

LookMaw Mon 15-Jul-13 13:26:13

Haha Marmalade, you articulated my feelings so beautifully then.

KellyElly Mon 15-Jul-13 14:05:45

People can actually be into the music and 'shock horror' dress fashionably. the two aren't mutually exclusive you know wink

MarmaladeTwatkins Mon 15-Jul-13 14:18:25

Yeah, but, I am willing to wager that most of them aren't. They're just there because going to a festival is the in thing to do.

Watching T in the Park on the telly and some dufus was on her mates shoulders, aware that the camera was on her, so she started trying to sing along only she didn't know the words.

LieInsAreRarerThanTigers Mon 15-Jul-13 14:21:24

I am nearly 46 and have been to at least 1 festival a year since 1989. I always loved to dress up in my most hippie colourful rags and have been to festivals pregnant, breastfeeding and using cloth nappies, and with children of all ages (whoops did lose the 2 year old once but found him again).

There are ALL kinds of festivals for ALL kinds of people. I have had enough of the big commercial ones and go to the smaller ones now, like Beautiful Days, Larmer Tree (this week - can't wait!), Chagstock and had some fantastic times at Big Green Gathering over the years.
It is a shame if everyone is wearing high street fashion ,one of the fun activities at festivals is people-watching, whacky outfits, groups of friends in themed fancy-dress, etc.

I LOVE festivals!

KatyTheCleaningLady Mon 15-Jul-13 14:22:54

From the photos I've seen online, attendees at Bloodstock look kinda fugly. And there are plenty of old people. It's definitely not a hip festival.

I'm looking forward to it!

keskiviikko Mon 15-Jul-13 14:24:43

Mainly one of the reasons I rarely go to festivals in the uk anymore. I'd rather spend the same amount for a ticket and travel and food for the weekend and go to Hellfest in France or one of the Finnish festivals than have to go through the horror of download again. Even Rammstein couldn't get me back there!

keskiviikko Mon 15-Jul-13 14:26:21

Katy Bloodstock is a good chilled out festival. My husband says that it's like a bunch of hippies all wearing black!

superstarheartbreaker Mon 15-Jul-13 14:31:51

I do love Glastonbury but it has gone all posh with Kate Moss , Prince Harry and Tory Mps hanging around. When I started going in 1995 it was a proper crusty fest/massive rave in a field. I do like the fact that noone tries to sell me drugs there anymore but for some people that may be a down side!
I do like dressing up a bit at festivals though.

happyyonisleepyyoni Mon 15-Jul-13 14:33:16

I went to Glastonbury in 1992 and there were people moaning then that it was too mainstream. It were ever thus!

MarmaladeTwatkins Mon 15-Jul-13 14:37:51

And the thing is, the more these teenyboppers go to the festivals, the more the festival organisers think that acts like The Rizzle Kicks and Rita Ora should be on the bill.

Glastonbury was like the Smash Hits Poll Winners Party.

Monstermuncher Mon 15-Jul-13 14:40:15

Its a sign of the times I think. I live close to a university and so I see lots of students on a daily basis. When I was a student it was all doc martens, stripey tights and massive holey cardigans (whether you were male or female really). Today's students wear designer stuff and do their food shopping in m and s. Its all changed and I feel like an old gimmer most of the time but people are so much more image obsessed these days. Who had heard of selfies and duck faces a few years ago?

MarmaladeTwatkins Mon 15-Jul-13 14:48:50

And and and they seem to watch more of the shows through their iPhone screen, because they are busy filming it, lest there be a single second of their time NOT uploaded to fucking Instagram or FaceSpace.

Harumph.

dirtyface Mon 15-Jul-13 14:51:10

<wonders if marmalade twatkins has worked out who i am>

<am on her facebook>

blush

MarmaladeTwatkins Mon 15-Jul-13 14:58:37

wink

KellyElly Mon 15-Jul-13 15:20:46

MarmaladeTwatkins You sound like a granny grin. Big commercial festivals who want to make money are going want whoever is topping the charts on their bill - Tine, Rita Ora, Rhianna, JayZ etc. They are going to want to attract a younger crowd because it's THEIR time to be at festivals!

KellyElly Mon 15-Jul-13 15:20:54

*Tinie even

MarmaladeTwatkins Mon 15-Jul-13 16:06:37

But, Kelly, this "thing" of having teenybopper bands at festivals like Glastonbury is a very recent thing! They aren't, or weren't, about what's topping the charts.

In 1999, The Corrs played Glastonbury and loads of folk were grumbling about them being too poppy for it.

Also, when I first went to Glastonbury in 1994, it was a real mix of ages, and was so the years I went after. I remember dancing to Orbital in the dance tent with a 62 year old woman! It isn't anyone's "time" to be at a festival as they shouldn't be about who or what is fashionable (which makes the point of this thread made) but about people of all ages appreciating the music.

<carries on knitting and muttering>

ImNotBloody14 Mon 15-Jul-13 16:11:37

Umm festivals arent an exclusive event- the tickets are available to everyone the same way. Should there be an exam to decide who deserves tickets before others? How ridiculous- people wearing fashionable clothes having a good time eith their friends arent doing anything wrong. Unless its just because they dont do fun how you do and so must be banished from public places hmm

MarmaladeTwatkins Mon 15-Jul-13 16:15:50

"Umm festivals arent an exclusive event- the tickets are available to everyone the same way"

Yeah well they shouldn't be. <cunt>

ImNotBloody14 Mon 15-Jul-13 16:16:51

grin

Oh you're just playing with me now!

MarmaladeTwatkins Mon 15-Jul-13 16:18:02

grin

There should be questions that people need to answer on the ticket hotline. And within a certain time to make sure they aren't Googling.

I am HARSH.

ImNotBloody14 Mon 15-Jul-13 16:24:03

You need to chill- you should take some time off. Go to a festival or something wink

MarmaladeTwatkins Mon 15-Jul-13 16:25:20

Going to a festival would NOT make me chill. I would be on a murder-spree of flower-haired/Hunter-wellied gap yah students within minutes of entering the compound. grin

ImNotBloody14 Mon 15-Jul-13 16:33:57

grin

do you think this might be your own personal issue? just a wee bit?

<runs>

KellyElly Mon 15-Jul-13 16:38:44

MarmaladeTwatkins It's not like like One Direction or Taylor Swift are playing though is it. It's not exactly teenie bopper stuff. It's rap/hip hop music that is outselling pretty much everything else in the charts. When I was a young teenager The Levellers, The Black Crows, The Prodigy, Oasis, Pulp, Radiohead were all topping the charts and have all headlined Glasto. Back in the early days so did Bowie - all massive artists of their time. Music has just moved on and the festivals are reflecting this. You may not like JayZ but he's not exactly teenybopper stuff - he's been about for years along with Snoop, Nars etc who've all played Glasto now. Also I'm not saying a 60 year old woman can't go and rave at a festival but the 'super festivals' have always had more young people at them (late teens - 30 somethings) and they did in the late 90's and 2000's when I was at them too!

GreenSkittles Mon 15-Jul-13 17:08:40

My next door neighbours teenage daughters and their friends went off to a festival last weekend in the obligatory denim shorts, band tees and wellies.

Wellies.

In a heatwave.

MsRinky Mon 15-Jul-13 17:38:52

I will admit to snickering at the youngsters who wear wellies in the blazing sunshine along with their Topshop festival fashions.

But I wore Doc Martens solidly for about a decade from 1989, so probably looked just as stupid.

whois Mon 15-Jul-13 17:48:15

Aw people like dressing up - be it something funny or something pretty.

At glasto this year the 'uniform' seemed to be denim shorts, with or without leggings depending on the time of day and wellies. Actually quite practical! Short summer dresses (with/out) legging also pretty popular and practical.

Don't see the problem - in your own way 'back in the day OP' you were still subscribing to the uniform c it was just a different one back then!

float62 Mon 15-Jul-13 17:57:30

The main difference now is the hugeness of festivals like Glastonbury and the introduction of commercialism and therefore cost. They've definitely become more mainstream. Speaking as someone who had a 'magic' time in 1979 at Glastonbury, but started to go off it by 1981 (commercialism was creeping in, not a criticism btw as it's so successful, just my taste) and some festivals used to be Free. Stonehenge early 80s anyone? But that started to get a bit out of hand when the hardcore 'Anarchists' took it over from the 'hippies, et al' and understandably the Free Festival was made illegal. I never saw Hawkwind play there unfortunately so bought tickets for the Rhythm Festival last summer for me and DS (then 10) but the bloody thing got cancelled. I would still go to one with DS (or without given half a chance!) if I found the right one.

HairyGrotter Mon 15-Jul-13 19:29:07

I think I'd wear a maxi dress if I wasn't planning on getting 'involved' in the pits, but for me, I need practical clothing as I like to get stuck in.

Despite weather, I'm usually in my wellies but they are just black Dunlop ones, I can't afford the wedge hunter ones wink

StuntGirl Mon 15-Jul-13 19:36:56

It's not like like One Direction or Taylor Swift are playing though is it. It's not exactly teenie bopper stuff. It's rap/hip hop music that is outselling pretty much everything else in the charts. When I was a young teenager The Levellers, The Black Crows, The Prodigy, Oasis, Pulp, Radiohead were all topping the charts and have all headlined Glasto. Back in the early days so did Bowie - all massive artists of their time. Music has just moved on and the festivals are reflecting this. You may not like JayZ but he's not exactly teenybopper stuff - he's been about for years along with Snoop, Nars etc who've all played Glasto now. Also I'm not saying a 60 year old woman can't go and rave at a festival but the 'super festivals' have always had more young people at them (late teens - 30 somethings) and they did in the late 90's and 2000's when I was at them too!

This!

In 10 years time fashion will change and your daughters will be on here going "In my day it was some practical denim cut offs jazzed up with pretty floral headbands. These kids today in their [whatever fashion of 2023]".

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Mon 15-Jul-13 19:46:44

Exactly, StuntGirl.

MarmaladeTwatkins Mon 15-Jul-13 20:00:26

"In 10 years time fashion will change and your daughters will be on here going "In my day it was some practical denim cut offs jazzed up with pretty floral headbands. These kids today in their [whatever fashion of 2023]"."

But no! There weren't any "festival fashions" then! You just dressed for the weather. Hot = few vests/shorts. Raining = jeans/vests/jumpers/waterproof and boots. No make-up, no "done" hair. You had a wash with a wet wipe and maybe rubbed a bit of talc into your roots on day 4 if things were oily.

I went to V a few years back to watch Pixies and I shit you not, there was a GHD Hair Pod there and a nail bar.

Charlie Brooker is right, it is the plastification of everything until everything resembles everything else.

And I don't take your point about Bowie being comparable to Chase and bloody Status. grin

Goldenbear Mon 15-Jul-13 20:57:27

I agree with you OP. I am 35 and the last festival I went to was Glastonbury in 2000. It was the last year that you could easily 'climb the fence' and I think that had an impact on the 'look' of the festival goers. Certainly, my friends and I did not wear any make up, have a shower or have a clothes rack in our tent.

StuntGirl Mon 15-Jul-13 21:08:10

But no! There weren't any "festival fashions" then! You just dressed for the weather. Hot = few vests/shorts. Raining = jeans/vests/jumpers/waterproof and boots. No make-up, no "done" hair. You had a wash with a wet wipe and maybe rubbed a bit of talc into your roots on day 4 if things were oily.

And that was the fashion of the time. Now it is different (or some). Lots of people still rock up in whatever and no make up/hair products. And of course people wore make up at festivals back then! You're looking through some very rose tinted glasses there marmalade grin

CheapBread Mon 15-Jul-13 21:20:46

Agree with OP. When, this year even the Tesco magazine had a page on 'festival fashion' and the One Show was broadcast from Glastonbury I declared the party officially over.
It's all about selling you shit.

And no celeb spends a morning desperately refreshing a browser for tickets and they do not stay in tents.

MarmaladeTwatkins Mon 15-Jul-13 21:24:40

It wasn't fashion! It was just clothes! Practical clothes! I wore other fashionable things outside of a festival situation (remembers PVC jeans and cringes) but I just wouldn't have worn them at a festival.

I have the pictures of my first time at Reading in 1995 and we all look homeless. grin

Wasn't 'looking homeless' just 90's grunge though? Inside-out jumper with cuffs hanging out and Rimmel black cherries lipstick? No?

StuntGirl Mon 15-Jul-13 23:02:25

Yep travelin

And I bet they don't wear their chiffon dresses and sky high wedges to the festivals either, there will be 'going out clothes' they leave at home too.

Rose tinted glasses, I'm telling ya.

MarmaladeTwatkins Tue 16-Jul-13 09:07:19

"Wasn't 'looking homeless' just 90's grunge though? Inside-out jumper with cuffs hanging out and Rimmel black cherries lipstick? No?"

Maybe. I don't see your point, though!

We just used to pack as if we were going for a weekend's camping (which we were) Would you ponce around a campsite in your naice clothes and a full face of make-up or would you dress sensibly, for the elements?

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Tue 16-Jul-13 09:58:00

In my day, it was all combats, vests, flip flops during the day, and trainers at night. Functional, but undoubtedly fashionable (hard as that may be to believe now). Plenty of people wore make-up.

Same as the fashions now, as far as I can see. Cut-off shorts and hunters. Functional but fashionable. Just not our fashionable, because we're not 20 anymore.

MarmaladeTwatkins Tue 16-Jul-13 10:00:02

Erm, I'm still fashionable, thanks! I just wouldn't spend upwards of £300 to ponce about a field looking like a flower fairy that's been attacked by Topshop.

ARealDame Tue 16-Jul-13 10:03:56

There's an antsy article on Glastonbury by Suzanne Moore writing in the Guardian, a couple of weeks ago. Look it up online, its quite funny (sorry can't do links).

Ladymuck Tue 16-Jul-13 10:11:20

No hope for me. 42 and looking at my Neon Orange Hunters and wondering whether there is any chance of the weather being cool enough to wear them this weekend (Latitude, pretty much the Boden of festivals).

dirtyface Tue 16-Jul-13 10:22:26

looking like a flower fairy that's been attacked by Topshop

pmsl

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Tue 16-Jul-13 10:26:53

Who says anyone's spending upwards of £300? The glossy magazines...?!

I'm sure some people probably are spending a wodge on their festival weekend away, just as some people probably did in our day, too.

Pus ça change...

Ladymuck Tue 16-Jul-13 10:30:23

£300 won't even get you a night in a yurt...

MarmaladeTwatkins Tue 16-Jul-13 10:32:03

I work in fashion retail. I get to serve the overgrown Bratz dolls that come in to buy their "festival wardrobe" <shudder>

Hunter willies cost £70 there or there abouts. They've all got 'em.

Come on. Look at this picture and tell me they're not irritating as fuck wink

MarmaladeTwatkins Tue 16-Jul-13 10:35:21

And here is the line-up for Reading '96, to pluck one out of the air

I can't see anything approaching the 1990s equivalent of Rizzle Kicks or Jessie J on there. Yes there are big acts on there but they're all veering towards the alternative side of things.

HairyGrotter Tue 16-Jul-13 10:39:07

Hahaha that picture makes me chortle! Ready to mosh with my mesh bodysuit and cut off shorts!

That first picture cannot possibly be a UK festival. Palm trees?

MarmaladeTwatkins Tue 16-Jul-13 11:39:26

Yeah it looks American but dressing like a wankah traverses the Atlantic...

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