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AIBU to think buggy snobbery is alive and kicking!

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bumpandkind Sat 13-Jul-13 17:56:53

I'm the owner of a (2nd hand) bugaboo bee which we bought simply because it was the best for public transport, small and light. Since entering the world of babies we have received an unexpected amount of comment both snobby and reverse snobby (ooh a bugaboo, yummy mummy are we)! WTF! Anyone judge or judges in secret?

LalyRawr Sat 13-Jul-13 17:59:27

I woold not know what kind of buggy people have unless they had a big sign telli me attached to it.

I have no idea what a bugaboo is. I have no idea what buggy I use!

Do people genuinely actually care about this stuff?

RandomMess Sat 13-Jul-13 17:59:43

I don't judge on brand name but I do on babies in inappropriate pushchairs ie not suitable for their needs, or no hood on scorching hot and sunny summer days...

WestieMamma Sat 13-Jul-13 17:59:47

Is a bugaboo a posh one then? I'll have to rethink mingling with the riff raff when I go out with mine then.

People will be snobby about anything as illustrated by the poster above who states that they have no idea what pushchair they have. Did you win it on a tombola? Choose it in the dark? Try reading the name on the side... I find that sort of too-cool-to-care nonsense equally irritating. It's like saying you have no idea where your shoes came from. And it's a load of bollocks.

DoraExplorer1993 Sat 13-Jul-13 18:08:59

Bugaboo is like the Audi of buggies. Yes, perhaps you got a great deal on it, but that doesn't stop people who don't/have never owned one thinking you're up your own arse.

EmpireBiscuit Sat 13-Jul-13 18:11:15

What does "the Audi of buggies" mean?

LalyRawr Sat 13-Jul-13 18:12:27

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noblegiraffe Sat 13-Jul-13 18:12:55

Audis have the reputation of being driven by twats who cut you up on the motorway and tailgate. Not a compliment!

EmpireBiscuit Sat 13-Jul-13 18:14:29

grin noblegiraffe

Sparklingbrook Sat 13-Jul-13 18:16:55

confused I am glad my DC are 14 and 11 I think. Buggy snobbery? Not in 1999.

Yes!!!
I've got a quinny buzz second hand as it suits my needs.
I've been told, it's chavvy!!! I got it as the tyres are excellent to walk the dog

WestieMamma Sat 13-Jul-13 18:17:30

Really? I didn't know this. I'm in Sweden where nearly everyone has either Brios or Emmaljungas. They're built like tanks and I can't lift them up a kerb let alone into the boot of my car. Everyone here looks at me funny and wonders why I'm using some inferior foreign junk grin.

Seems to me that people judge EVERYTHING baby related! What buggy you have, what car seat etc.

If you have the one you want then stuff them grin

I bought an uppababy vista - wonder what people think of me?!

I know sparkling. Not much in 2003 either. Mind you I was the gimmer who refused to spend s fortune and got a second hand can't even remember the brand on eBay thing for £25. Which I walked the wheels off.

Different strokes for different folks innit.

ComposHat Sat 13-Jul-13 18:20:58

if it is the Audi of buggies are they pushed by utter twats who tailgate other buggy users whilst bellowing into a mobile phone?

NotYoMomma Sat 13-Jul-13 18:22:04

I am obsessed with my icandy strawberry grin

it was my one extravagance and I love it.

when I see other people with them I give them a nod. I dont know if they know I consider us to be in a club lol

Sparklingbrook Sat 13-Jul-13 18:22:46

I feel like I missed out now Scone. sad My Graco travel system was my pride and joy. blush And it lasted two DC. DS2 should have had a new one shouldn't he? <panics>

NotYoMomma Sat 13-Jul-13 18:22:59

fairydogmother, they conside you well researched and wise wink

Sparklingbrook Sat 13-Jul-13 18:25:22

Is an icandy pushchair an Apple one Not? grin

So what's good and what's not in the world of buggies/prams/pushchairs and what's not?

My DP drives an Audi. I'm definitely not getting a buggerboo then as our cuntitude will double.

AmyFarrahFowlerCooper Sat 13-Jul-13 18:31:39

I don't judge brands because its different strokes and all that. I do slightly judge people who get a £700 pram on installments for the sake of having the brand name when they are already up to their eyeballs in debt (and complain about it all the time).

DoctorRobert Sat 13-Jul-13 18:32:09

I know what pushchair I have (Mothercare Spin) and that's it.

I don't know what kind of pushchair that is perceived as...and I wouldn't be able to recognise any other make of pushchair. I literally have no idea what an icandy or bugaboo or anything else looks like, and I couldn't care less.

It astounds me that people actually do care. It's a pushchair.

NotYoMomma Sat 13-Jul-13 18:33:27

I only like it so much because I also live in a street with strawberry in the name and dress dd in strawberry themed clothes.

apples... oh no.

I do realise I may have a problem confused

Pascha Sat 13-Jul-13 18:33:33

<hides small collection of buggys and invoice for the next one arriving next week>

Sparklingbrook Sat 13-Jul-13 18:34:20

Buggy collection? shock

NotYoMomma Sat 13-Jul-13 18:35:50

when I do see a motgercare pushchair I do usually wonder if ithas broken yet or silently congratulate the owners on the wheels not falling off and having to face the 'we shall never replace this' poor customer service brigade wink

onlyslightly joking

noblegiraffe Sat 13-Jul-13 18:38:48

My Loola Up is now on DC2. I have no idea of its social standing and was only vaguely aware of its name because I delegated the entire buggy selection process to DH.

Our pushchair was cheap in a ToysRUs sale. I genuinely don't know what make it is.

pantsjustpants Sat 13-Jul-13 18:39:51

I had a bugaboo cameleon for ds. I got several comments about how much it cost etc., but I bought it second hand and got a bargain. Fab buggy and I've had a few as ds is dc4. I've just sold it on as I bought a Maclaren, second hand again, for the car and that's what we use most now I'm back at work.

I don't judge, but I do notice and covet! Would have loved an Uppababy Vista, but my budget wouldn't stretch. I also notice grubby buggys, and would hoist my judgey pants high!

Sparklingbrook Sat 13-Jul-13 18:43:03

I have just had a look at the Mothercare website to look at some of the pushchairs. Boy are they fugly. I wouldn't want any of them. i think the Bugaboo Donkey is the fugliest.

Kat101 Sat 13-Jul-13 18:45:29

I have a MacLaren xt which has lasted 3 dc and is still going. Lovely and tall hood suitable for when the child is 2-3. Flat with a cosytoe when newborn. It's suited every need I have perfectly.

My now retired GP pushes his gc around in an 80's vintage buggy. The sort of item that would start at 99p on eBay. He is a millionaire.

If you have the money and want a particular expensive buggy then go for it. The status idea is nonsense IMO.

themaltesecat Sat 13-Jul-13 18:45:49

Only in England...

Sparklingbrook Sat 13-Jul-13 18:46:55

in 2013 maltese.

Wibblypiglikesbananas Sat 13-Jul-13 18:46:55

I think people do judge, but it definitely depends where you live. When DD was born, we lived in a relatively 'posh' area of SW London and everyone (apart from me!) seemed to have a Bugaboo Chameleon. I think it's also fair to say that a big price tag doesn't always equal great quality (see below!)

Roll on two years, I'm PG with DC2 and we're now living in the USA. Bugaboos are popular here, but there's a much wider range of prams and pushchairs available in general, ranging from really very cheap ($150) to $$$. Uppababy is massive here and have great products and fantastic customer service. I can't really judge too much as I don't know half the brands though and I'm currently looking on Craigslist for a second hand double - probably a Bob or Baby Jogger (v popular here). There seems to be a lot more selling on of baby stuff here than in the UK - even carseats, which seems crazy to me.

Personally, I bought an iCandy Cherry first time round and it was the biggest waste of money EVER. Wheels had a design fault, got replacements, they fell off every 100m or so... If I hadn't moved overseas in the meantime, I'd have taken legal action against iCandy as the whole contraption was dangerous, and given that including all extras, travel bag, bassinet, footmuff etc, we're talking the best part of £800, I would have expected way, way more. Conversely, my £80 Maclaren umbrella stroller is AMAZING. And interestingly, none of my Bugaboo-toting friends back home had problems with their products - make of that what you will. Sometimes a product's reputation and price tag is well deserved, other times it's a massive con.

hm32 Sat 13-Jul-13 18:47:31

I'm blissfully unaware of all this, as I rarely go into town shopping, and don't have many friends with children under 5. The friends I do have, are like me - get the cheapest you can that works, as it's only a buggy after all! If I didn't drive and walked miles with it, I would probably have spent more - as it is, it's a good seat for DS to sit in to watch things and occasionally travel in!

Wibblypiglikesbananas Sat 13-Jul-13 18:49:29

And I agree Pants - if I'm going to judge anything these days, it would be cleanliness rather than brand!

gaggiagirl Sat 13-Jul-13 18:50:32

I've got a pink deck chair on wheels affair it's called a tiny ted it was £5 I wonder now if its actually a buggy for dolls????????? I don't care I'm only the size of a 10 year old so it probably looks right me pushing it. My 6ft 3 fella on the other hand!!!!! Priceless.

deste Sat 13-Jul-13 18:52:14

I saw a Bugaboo Donkey today and thought it was great. I had to check out the name as I had no idea what make it was. It just looked very practical.

LustyBusty Sat 13-Jul-13 18:52:49

<wanders into thread>
WTAF is buggery snobbery?!?
<realises it's buggy, not buggery>
<wanders off to wash dirty mind>

Sparklingbrook Sat 13-Jul-13 18:52:56

It probably is deste. Practical and fugly. wink

gordyslovesheep Sat 13-Jul-13 18:55:41

it's proper shit isn't it - with dd3 we had a bugaboo bee - because I owned a Mini at the time and I went to an independent pram shop and tried loads of pushchairs - this was the only one that fitted - so I got it

I didn't buy it to have a label or be 'a wag wannaby' (as one friend put it) it was just fucking practical

I feel your pain OP x

Whothefuckfarted Sat 13-Jul-13 18:55:42

I always thought it was BMW's that were driven by twats, not Audi's grin I have a pliko pramette, not sure if it's posh/chavvy. It was £265 2nd hand with a car seat/umbrella/changing bag to match. I have no idea about any sort of other buggy.. except that my cousin bought a Cath Kidston pushchair for her wee one and someone commented that it was very expensive?

noblegiraffe Sat 13-Jul-13 18:59:03

If an iCandy is nothing to do with Apple, why does it have the i? That's just confusing!

Sparklingbrook Sat 13-Jul-13 19:00:42

Exactly noble. Apple's iBuggy. grin

OMG it's real Who. shock

NotYoMomma Sat 13-Jul-13 19:01:07

even worse when you realise there is an icandy Apple lol.

apparently they have been around years

itchyandscratchy26 Sat 13-Jul-13 19:02:06

Personally I think reverse snobbery is alive and kicking, I know I've been guilty of it this week when at an outpatient appointment. I was there with my twins and another twin mummy wheeled in her babies in a bugaboo donkey. I asked her a few quick questions regarding her own twins, but I was then called into clinic with my own pair. The conclusion I came to was that she wouldn't be 'my' sort of person because of her choice of pushchair/status symbol etc.
Probably unfair of me, but there you have it.
DOI- my own twins are in a Babyjogger city mini double.

Wibblypiglikesbananas Sat 13-Jul-13 19:03:43

I think iCandy were around a while ago, before the whole iPhone/iPad thing took off. All their prams are fruit and veg (just like the Waitrose vans!). As I said above though, worst purchase I've ever made so would definitely not recommend, quirky fruity names or not.

Funghoul Sat 13-Jul-13 19:04:01

My quinny buzz is second hand, and bought because the seller wanted a stupidly low price for it. It came with carrycot, accessories and in amazing condition, and is also red grin
Never realised that the buzz was considered chavvy! Me and dp are far from! Think skull shirts, tattoos, piercings etc. The only time I judge is when, like today, I see someone with a tiny baby and no umbrella, no good, no shade for baby!

noblegiraffe Sat 13-Jul-13 19:08:49

Fruit and veg? Like the iCandy Cucumber? (Google sadly says no).

Mind you, I wouldn't have thought that Bugaboo Donkey was a real name either.

Sparklingbrook Sat 13-Jul-13 19:10:47

I have missed out on having a fruit and veg flavoured buggy by 14 years. <sob>

exoticfruits Sat 13-Jul-13 19:10:48

I am also blissfully unaware- my neighbour gave me her old one and I cleaned it up. They only get the baby from a to b. I have no idea what is considered desirable.

oohdaddypig Sat 13-Jul-13 19:12:11

Makeitup and fung - I have a second hand Quinny too (will ensure look suitably chavvy when pushing it;shouldn't be too hard)

Question - how the heck do you make the kid sit upright in it? No matter how tight the toggle is DC is still reclined at a daft angle (chilling out chav style maybe)

I love its off road tyres too <sad>

Sparklingbrook Sat 13-Jul-13 19:13:34

Apple to Pear upgrade confused Where the new baby completely blocks the view of DC1. Excellent!

oohdaddypig Sat 13-Jul-13 19:14:00

Ps surely the name "bugaboo" is enough to scream "yummy mummy"

scottishmummy Sat 13-Jul-13 19:15:30

I did know people who opined on buggy as if demonstrable measure of character (and prosperity)
imo,if it goes from a to b,safely transport wean, that enough
Everything else is personal preference, aesthetics,budget

mrscog Sat 13-Jul-13 19:17:33

I have an iCandy peach, because I really liked the assembly, wanted parent facing and it fitted in our car. Could not afford the £800 price tag so picked up an ebay bargain. Didn't give it a second thought until I started using it, since then I worry about people thinking we spent £800 on a pushchair and judging accordingly. No one has said anything though!

Sparklingbrook Sat 13-Jul-13 19:18:46

Ooh I never noticed mrscog, I should have closely inspected your pram. grin

Lutrine Sat 13-Jul-13 19:19:38

I saw a woman in John Lewis trying to sell a buggy, not sure what sort but she brought a mirror over and got the customer to push it in front of it whilst saying "oh that one really suits you! I can see you with that one!"it was so weird! I saw a buggy with squirrells on in kiddicare, wish I had that one instead of the black one my DH insisted on!

HaroldLloyd Sat 13-Jul-13 19:25:34

I've got a bugaboo and I certainly ain't no yummy mummy.

gamerchick Sat 13-Jul-13 19:26:20

I must admit I rolleyes when I see one of those ridiculous looking prams with the tiny seats and little wheels on the front. Especially at how much they cost new and just look like posh supermarket trolleys. It might be because I had normal prams 18 years ago and don't like change mind grin

scottishmummy Sat 13-Jul-13 19:26:29

What exactly causes you worry about strangers opinion Re:cost of pram
If someone wants to get in a tizzy about cost of buggy that makes them daft
Competitively claiming pram cost 27p and wean sleep in drawer is a bit of a mc sport

WestieMamma Sat 13-Jul-13 19:29:00

At risk of sounding like I live on the moon, can someone please explain the term 'yummy mummy' to me and why it's bad?

<Starting to stress about the unknown messages my second hand bugaboo is giving out>

scottishmummy Sat 13-Jul-13 19:32:23

Why don't you google wasting time stressing about what strangers think of buggies....time you'll never get back
Yummy mummy is a pejorative term for prosperous dolled up mum,stick thin,big sunnies,wag

DoraExplorer1993 Sat 13-Jul-13 19:33:28

You can tell how image conscious these bugaboo owners are, they strut around in public basking in the perceived glory of owning a bugaboo, yet on an internet forum where thrift is the name of the game, they all claim to have bought them second hand wink

Funghoul Sat 13-Jul-13 19:33:35

Oohdaddypig just had a play and seat seems more upright when facing forwards rather than parent facing. Do agree it could be more upright in the parent facing position

KenAdams Sat 13-Jul-13 19:34:30

I see what you mean OP, completely acceptable to judge people with Bugaboos on here but a sin to call Quinnys chavvy. Double standards are alive and well on MN!

mrscog Sat 13-Jul-13 19:34:53

Oh sparkling! I would have worried that you were thinking hmm a bazillion pound pram, Mrs Cog has more money than sense!

scottishmummy Sat 13-Jul-13 19:35:27

Perceived glory in owning bugaboo?oh joy I have a fleet of bugaboo
All bought new
How glorious for me to be held in such high regard

MrsOakenshield Sat 13-Jul-13 19:36:10

good to see the reverse snobbery is alive and well on this thread, certainly on page 1.

We got a Bugaboo Bee because I wanted one with an adjustable handle (I'm quite short, and on borrowed Maclaren's have found the handles a little too high for comfort), it's very narrow so good for public transport and our narrow hallway, it collapses to be pretty small to fit in our tiny boot, and you can put the car seat on it. Another bonus I've found is that having one handle is great for when your toddler wants to sometimes walk - easier to push singlehanded.

But good to know that because I tried out a few and made an informed decision I'm a twat or a yummy mummy hmm.

NoComet Sat 13-Jul-13 19:38:09

My DDs had a wheel barrow.

Very early mountain buggy, most people had never seen a 3 wheeled buggy before and joked it looked like a wheel barrow. Brilliant go absolutely anywhere, town or country buggy, it had many adventures including bouncing round the Scilly isles.

Sparklingbrook Sat 13-Jul-13 19:38:31

grin mrscog. I will be out scrutinising prams now.

IShallCallYouSquishy Sat 13-Jul-13 19:40:12

Well I've got a bugaboo bee. And it's bright yellow so proper in your face. And I love it. So ner grin

My very lovely parents kindly got it for me as a gift when I was pregnant. It was the buggy I wanted. I love how it looks and how easy it is. My DD is 13.5 months and shows no signs of outgrowing it. It will last me until she no longer needs pushing.

I'm certainly no "yummy mummy" (looks at dodgy roots, chopped toe nail polish and flabby size 14 body)

scottishmummy Sat 13-Jul-13 19:40:30

I shall be doing the bugaboo walk of pride,hoping folk know it reassuringly expensive

HaroldLloyd Sat 13-Jul-13 19:40:38

Dora I bought mine new as it goes, with ALL the accessories and your post is a pile of shite, really!

The only buggy snobbery I have ever experienced is the RAGE on here directed at people with large offroaders in town,
I have twins and a large dog and live in the sticks so obviously I have a large offroader.

Unfortunately I don't own a fleet of different buggies handily positioned at different points around the county, so seeing as I am starting my journey from the sticks, I do have to take my mud splatted behemoth into town. Sorry an' all.

TheRealMBJ Sat 13-Jul-13 19:41:35

I had a bugaboo chameleon with DS as all the research I did suggested it was best for our livestyle. He never went into the damn thing until he was about 9 mo, so for a few desperate months (while trying to convince myself the money wasn't wasted) I could be seen pushing an empty pushchair while carrying him in my Moby wrap.

By the time I was about to have DD, I decided not to bother, got a cheapish Maclaren (that I could collapse with one hand) and just slinged the baby and pushed the toddler. Now DD rides and DS walks. Wished I did this first time round.

No competitive cheap skatery here MrsO and scottishmummy. I just had no money whatsoever. Literally. I was living in a house with no cold running water in the kitchen when dd was born.

Fact is dc survived not having a naice pram. And they haven't ever asked about it.

scottishmummy Sat 13-Jul-13 19:46:07

Have the sling lot popped up yet to chirrup on about pram as mobile prisons

FobblyWoof Sat 13-Jul-13 19:46:41

It is but you don't have to pay attention to it, though I can appreciate it would be annoying if you get comments regularly.

I love pushchairs. Love them, but I just like looking at them, I don't give a fig how much they cost!

chillinwithmyyonis Sat 13-Jul-13 19:47:12

I hate people that get on buses with icandys and similar monstronsities. (coming from user of a petite bugaboo gecko and I am not a twat).

MrsOakenshield Sat 13-Jul-13 19:50:09

Scone I wasn't looking for a naice pram. I was looking for one that did what I wanted it to. Sorry that I had a choice in the matter, sorry that you didn't. Of course DD would have been fine, who's saying otherwise? What exactly is your point?

wonderingsoul Sat 13-Jul-13 19:50:48

i like push chairs.. like some owman like handbag or shoes.

i care and look.. and even sometime mention to who ever im with that buggy over there is nice.

i dont judge the people pushing them though.

i just like buggys...

and to the op with mother care spin... i went with a friend who was expecting to go buggy shopping.. i fell in love with it. how cool that it spins grin it was almost enough for me to want another baby.

WestieMamma Sat 13-Jul-13 19:53:26

Wish I could be mistaken for a yummy mummy sad

Oh well, back to being a short, round, pauper, student, couch potato mummy.

Daddy pig- dd is ten months and my problem is having her at a silly angle so she lies back, when I have her upright she tries to make a break for it.
I'd like her to still face me but she screams blue murder! I'm quite offended actually

scottishmummy Sat 13-Jul-13 19:56:30

Yes I had running water,and I had the dosh for bugaboo
Should I have denied myself pram of choice on basis someone else didn't have one
Can't see what the point is in retelling,other than illustrate being skint?

Fraggle3112 Sat 13-Jul-13 19:58:54

I have An iCandy peach, was a present from my parents and I love it! I have come across some snobbery but I don't care! I also have an Audi so maybe I should have had a bugaboo instead and gone the whole hog!

MummytoMog Sat 13-Jul-13 20:12:17

I tried explaining to someone that you really get what you pay for with buggies (and I buy mine second hand) and got a rant for half an hour about consumerism. I should have let her try pushing 35kg of toddlers in the cheap double buggy while I pushed the bugaboo donkey with one hand then.

I really miss my Stokke though sad they didn't do doubles when DS came along (and I'm really not sure about their double buggy anyway).

MiaowTheCat Sat 13-Jul-13 20:15:19

To be truly buggy elite you have to look like you don't give a shit about what you're pushing... ie knackered phil and teds or knackered maclaren.

HaroldLloyd Sat 13-Jul-13 20:17:13

I should walk around kicking my pram shouting YOU BASTARD then? grin

MummytoMog Sat 13-Jul-13 20:18:32

I can't believe someone called the beloved Donkey fugly shock admittedly I tried to talk my friend out of buying one for her twins, but for a pair of lazy ass toddlers, it's awesome. I wish we'd had it when DS was tiddly, instead of the daft Peach.

I had a knackered P and T. It didn't work very well. Ya know, because it was knackered. Which was a problem with the pair of giant, lazy toddlers.

[goes away to stroke the Donkey]

scottishmummy Sat 13-Jul-13 20:19:59

Ah,yes the we eschew consumerism crew with wonky cart to prove how hip and right on they are
That too is contrived,the hey we care not for frippery,by having a manky pram

HaroldLloyd Sat 13-Jul-13 20:22:59

I'm just off to buff my pram up. I'm going to have gleaming wheels for my daily twat parade tomorrow.

DoraExplorer1993 Sat 13-Jul-13 20:23:42

And I thought I was overspending when I bought a £250 silvercross travel system a few years back. There is an element of getting what you pay for, but there's definitely an element of 'being seen' with a premium brand amongst some people. Hence my analogy with Audis - yes maybe you didn't buy one because you're a twat, but that's the reputation they have and you decided to buy one anyway, so that does say a little bit about you, and really you can't moan about it as you should have known accusations of snobbery would come your way.

HaroldLloyd Sat 13-Jul-13 20:25:27

I don't associate with people that are silly enough to judge people on such total arse as what pram they have so luckily I never have this problem.

ThreeEyedRaven Sat 13-Jul-13 20:26:02

Lolz, this is highly entertaining.

I am only just starting to look into these things and was considering a Phil and Reds, everyone at Glasto seemed to have them and they looked sturdy with big wheels.

Where do they fit in with the social pecking order of pushchair snobbery?

scottishmummy Sat 13-Jul-13 20:27:05

Pram with a reputation?what like goes with anyone?a pram that turns tricks
In the way you're striving to emphasise how little you sent,that's v contrived
And someone who spent 27p will think your £250 a blingy overspend

HaroldLloyd Sat 13-Jul-13 20:28:42

Most people would have spent less on their prams than you, you big old show off Dora.

Impatientwino Sat 13-Jul-13 20:29:07

I have a bugaboo and an Audi shock

I'm nice honestly and I never cut people up on motorways..honest!

(in the Audi obviously not in the bugaboo!)

Raise Sat 13-Jul-13 20:29:27

Quinny needs to be outward facing to get seat in most upright position.

My poor Dd was so deprived, her buggy was from the lost and found. Sis gave it me, left on one of their flights and sat in their office for months on end. They were about to throw it in the bin. It was brilliant, no name tag on it anywhere, but it folded like and umbrella and lay flat and was light as a feather. We used it till it had to be thrown away from collapsing in a tired heap.

DoraExplorer1993 Sat 13-Jul-13 20:32:50

I don't think £250 is cheap, it's more middle of the road IMO, I was a bit shocked to learn about prams going for £600+ though. My point is merely that certain brands have a reputation, so if you buy them anyway that does say something about you, even if you have a non-blingy reason for your purchase smile

HaroldLloyd Sat 13-Jul-13 20:36:13

Phil & teds - I was put off when a child minder told me kids on lower deck can put their hands on dog poo on the wheels.

scottishmummy Sat 13-Jul-13 20:36:17

Dora,you've been outdone by the lost and found buggy.kudos to squinkies
Your £250 spend..it says you're kind of person who spends £250 but really wanted bugaboo
And spend lot of time dissing bugaboo to quell disappointment

shufflehopstep Sat 13-Jul-13 20:36:32

I have a mamas and papas pramette that I got for free from someone who was getting rid of all her baby stuff and didn't want any money for it. I have heard from other mums at work that it's quite a good one but to be honest, I didn't do any research into it. I find it hard to believe just how much snobbery there is about a lot of things. It's stupid.

scottishmummy Sat 13-Jul-13 20:37:48

Free is v good kudos
Use it liberally,to illustrate your emm freeness

Joskar Sat 13-Jul-13 20:39:37

We have a bebecar travel system. Is that an Audi or a Cincequento?

Does it matter that we pulled out of a skip?

WestieMamma Sat 13-Jul-13 20:39:46

I didn't know my pram had a reputation when I bought it. Honestly I didn't. I live in the arse end of nowhere Sweden where choice is limited. I tried the ones on offer in the shop. The bugaboo was the only one I could lift that also had a carrycot for sleeping. Saw the price tag. Scraped husband up off the floor. (Approx £2000 here shock) Then found a second hand one on Blocket (sort of like Swedish ebay) for £350.

Never in a million years did I think of it as some sort of status symbol. New baby hormones must still be playing up as I feel all sad now and don't want it any more,

<goes to find comfort in icecream>

SHarri13 Sat 13-Jul-13 20:39:52

I have a bugaboo bee and love it, really pleased with it. I'd get an Audi too if I could afford it so there. You think I'm a twat, I'd probably think you're one too so we're even.

scottishmummy Sat 13-Jul-13 20:40:42

Out of a skipgood, yes v good.bray that loudly when you see a bugaboo

DoraExplorer1993 Sat 13-Jul-13 20:42:02

My earlier post 'dissing' bugaboo was intended as tongue in cheek, hence the winking smiley.

Bugaboo weren't around AFAIK when I got my travel system, or hadn't taken off they way they have now anyway. I don't have a strong opinion on this one way or the other and don't judge people for owning certain prams, maybe they're rich and don't even notice the price, or maybe their desperately pretentious and have £50k of debt, you just don't know. But these reputations do exist, so no point buying into the brand and moaning about the reactions you get off some judgey types smile

DoraExplorer1993 Sat 13-Jul-13 20:43:17

please excuse the wrong use of 'their', that was meant to to "they're"

threesypeesy Sat 13-Jul-13 20:45:00

I must admit I have a wee glance at others buggies, I gothrough quite a few as I get fed up with them. Just bbought dd3 a concord neo a few weeks ago and absolutely love it its a great buggy to push no idea if its a snobby buggy or not though. Bugaboos are lovely though would probably buy one if I was ever going to buy another buggy bit dh has said the neo is her last....spoil sport so he is.

scottishmummy Sat 13-Jul-13 20:46:14

These threads are formulaic.over populated by bugaboo haters,and angst owners
Naturally -all- most of the bugaboo will have been acquired 2nd hand for tuppence ha'penny
Well as soon as strident baby wearer turns up,they'll chastise prams as mobile prisons

IdaClair Sat 13-Jul-13 20:46:59

I have no idea what a bugaboo looks like. I have never actually bought or used a pushchair so I have very little clue about them in general and not the foggiest on brand names. I don't see the appeal of buggy pushing, but maybe that's just me. I generally think they make life harder than it needs to be in lots of situations, and I'll admit I don't like it when I'm delayed or inconvenienced by other people using them (buses, trains, lifts, car boots, pavements, tight spaces, cafes and so on being prime problem spaces to put a buggy into)

But brand names? No

poppingin1 Sat 13-Jul-13 20:48:15

I had a bugaboo bee plus all black when dd was born in 2011. I secretly loved that i seemed to be the only person around with an all black one as it had just come out. This was mainly because so many people in my area own a bee and i like to be individual. In all seriousness, i did get it because i live on London and it was the best lightweight and smallest full feature stroller available at the time for running around a very crowded city.

When my daughter was a year old the baby jogger city mini gt came out. My dd didn't need the reverse seat anymore and as she was getting bigger i felt she needed something sturdier and higher up. She never really loved sitting in the bee either but loves the baby jogger. It is cheaper than the bugaboo but i suppose both brands are seen as statement buggys.

For me i spent extra on these items not for any other reason than them having all the convenient features they have. I dont drive so having a top of the line stroller to me was important for convenience because you do get what you pay for. The extra features make everyday a little more convenient when you walk or take London transport everywhere.

There is snobbery and there is reverse snobbery. Frankly i think its all a bit silly. I have a friend who also lives in London who was very judgy because i also bought a super lightweight travel maclaren as well as changing my original buggy. She would often point out that she had always had her original buggy with an air of superiority. Now she wants a maclaren like mine because she thinks it would be easier on her when taking public transport with a toddler and was asking me about mine. I didn't point out how snobby she was about me buying one.

For me i paid more not to be a snob, but genuinely because you get what you pay for, and i wanted convenience.

PlainOldVanilla Sat 13-Jul-13 20:48:28

I wouldn't say I'm a buggy snob but I am deffo a buggy perv! I'm always looking at them for a new target

DoraExplorer1993 Sat 13-Jul-13 20:50:27

I'm impressed at how quickly your prediction came true scottishmummy.

WestieMamma Sat 13-Jul-13 20:52:10

IdaClair I had to have a pram because of my disability. I cannot use a sling because it hurts my back too much. I then had to find one which was light enough to lift, bearing in mind my back problems, but also sturdy enough to lean on as I won't be able to use my rollator at the same time.

poppingin1 Sat 13-Jul-13 20:52:29

I also 'wore' my daughter daily during her first year and bought a top of the line carrier for that too.

Money well spent for all the convenience and peace of mind.

FridaKarlov Sat 13-Jul-13 20:54:47

Prams are Satan's wheelbarrow! Feast your eyes on my £300 sling lovingly woven from the virgin locks of Aztec maidens.

M0naLisa Sat 13-Jul-13 20:56:11

I am currently using the most top selling pushchair in the UK at the moment and i couldnt give a toss what anyone says or thinks!! grin

itchyandscratchy26 Sat 13-Jul-13 20:56:28

To me, the yummy mummy stereotype means something different to the WAG/bling picture. I associate it with bugaboo, boden, pink linings changing bags and competitive NCT groups. Which is why I didn't pick a donkey.

M0naLisa Sat 13-Jul-13 20:56:42

But i must add, i wont be changing it, it will stay with me until DS3 is walking and i no longer need it - cost enough haha

scottishmummy Sat 13-Jul-13 20:59:43

A sling must be fashioned from the flaxen hair Of a faerie,borrowed from sling library
Anyone regaled us with the quasi-intellectual benefits of baby wearing,increase brain power
until one has a baby velcroed to you,with its garrotted legs akimbo one cannot know fulfilment

Sleep404 Sat 13-Jul-13 21:03:50

I get serious buggy part envy. I drool over bits of other people's buggys and imagine putting all the bits together to make one super efficient, great looking buggy. Then I imagine how many millions I'd make seeing as how none of the existing buggy makers can make one that is perfect.

Emilythornesbff Sat 13-Jul-13 21:04:32

Does anyone really think that bugged are actually a bad thing?

Or is that TIC?

I have 3 "carriers", a pram and a pushchair. blush
Oh, and a very cluttered hallway.

5madthings Sat 13-Jul-13 21:04:43

I have a bugaboo, bought it when ds2 was little, he is now 11 and I have used it for another three children. Was it expensive..yes. But it was worth it, still in great condition despite being used everyday. I walk everywhere and its been a real workhorse. Only problem I had was the fielkd on school run when we had snow so I got a nipper 360 which is also fab.

Just get one that suits your lifestyle, its worth spending a bit if you will use it a lot, particularly if you will use it for more than one DC.

YoniSingWhenYoureWinning Sat 13-Jul-13 21:05:36

This thread is like a parody of Mumsnet.

"How DARE you say people with a HippopotamusMoonbeam are twats?! I have a HippopotamusMoonbeam and I am extremely down to earth thank you very much! This is a clear-cut case of reverse HippopotamusMoonbeam snobbery and you should all be ashamed!"

WestieMamma Sat 13-Jul-13 21:05:43

I imagine how many millions I'd make out of my innovative swivel baby car seat.

5madthings Sat 13-Jul-13 21:05:45

I also have a variety of slings... Shoot me now grin

DontmindifIdo Sat 13-Jul-13 21:06:44

Surely the bugaboo donkey is popular because there aren't many rear facing doubles that don't involve your DCs having to be in some sort of stacking system? Most non-stacking doubles do seem to be forward facing or only rear facing until they are in the seat unit (so for the next couple of years). It could seem smug because you've obviously made the choice that rear facing is worth spending an extra £500 on compared to the forward facing doubles you can get, and if you've not made that choice you might think the other mother is judging your choice.

Personally, I have an old iCandy cherry I got when I had DS, it's still fine for DD although I made the mistake of taking it off road a lot with DS so not sure it'll last for DD. I do wish I'd bought a bugaboo as my friends who are on their DC2 who also did a lot of off road walking with DC1 still have a buggy that will last for another couple of years. I might well have made a false economy buying the cheaper iCandy.

Oh god but for true smugness, you need a 'baby wearer'

WestieMamma Sat 13-Jul-13 21:09:04

I have a bugaboo, bought it when ds2 was little, he is now 11 and I have used it for another three children. Was it expensive..yes. But it was worth it, still in great condition despite being used everyday. I walk everywhere and its been a real workhorse. Only problem I had was the fielkd on school run when we had snow so I got a nipper 360 which is also fab.

You could have got special snow wheels for your bugaboo. I knows because I live in Sweden where they're essential.

Sleep404 Sat 13-Jul-13 21:09:21

Website, DH had that idea 5 years ago and told everyone how he was going to patent it. Alas someone got there before him sad.

Emilythornesbff Sat 13-Jul-13 21:10:01

grin @ yoni

Sleep404 Sat 13-Jul-13 21:10:20

Westie blush damn auto correct

scottishmummy Sat 13-Jul-13 21:10:41

I have snow wheels for bugaboo
Good for snow and all That

Sleep404 Sat 13-Jul-13 21:11:39

Is it really called a Donkey confused? Which bright spark thought that was a good idea?

Emilythornesbff Sat 13-Jul-13 21:12:02

grin 5madthings

5madthings Sat 13-Jul-13 21:12:06

Yes but they didn't have them here I would have had to order them from Holland and it was going to take 6-8wks, the snow would have been gone by then so I got the nipper on 34hr delivery. It is great but I do love my bugaboo frog, feels like part of the family we have had it so long!

WestieMamma Sat 13-Jul-13 21:12:08

There's a swivel car seat already? shock

How did I miss that?

Oh yeah, I remember. Because I live in the arse end of nowhere. sad

nkf Sat 13-Jul-13 21:15:09

I too thought it said buggery snobbery.

scottishmummy Sat 13-Jul-13 21:15:26

Plenty swivel eyes on mn,ESP with regards to bugaboo
Gets all the mine cost tu'ppence crew going.they'd never be such profligate spenders
only to be witheringly cut down by baby wearers.who despise prams

WestieMamma Sat 13-Jul-13 21:15:38

I have snow wheels for bugaboo
Good for snow and all That

So do I. Bit pointless really because although I live in a place where snow can reach 6ft in depth, I refuse to leave the house until spring. Seriously, who goes out when it's -20 in the sun?

MrsOakenshield Sat 13-Jul-13 21:15:50

well, Dora, I didn't know when I bought my Bugaboo, that they had any kind of reputation. All I knew was that it seemed suitable for what I wanted, that a couple of friends who had one were happy with it, and that it was within budget. So, actually, I don't expect anyone to regard me in a particular way on the basis of what pram I'm pushing.

And I only know one Audi driver. His wheelchair fits nicely into it.

stopprocrastinating Sat 13-Jul-13 21:17:02

I also love pushchairs, much more than handbags or shoes.I don't judge though. Currently coveting a baby jogger summit.

Tried slings, but DD prefers her pushchair.

nkf Sat 13-Jul-13 21:19:04

I wish it had been about buggery snobbery. That would be some thread. Are you sure it isn't? Buggerypoo rather Bugaloo?

hottea7 Sat 13-Jul-13 21:19:22

My nan and grandad bought me a bugaboo donkey for my babies last year, had to get my dp to take it up to the school with the babies for the first time I was to bloody scared!

scottishmummy Sat 13-Jul-13 21:23:18

Scared of what?the school gate mafia roughing you up,stealing your pram
You're seriously over thinking this.its a pram not a staffie on a rope
Motherhood is competitive,mums find reason to dislike something about you.not necessarily pram

MoveItMoveIt Sat 13-Jul-13 21:26:28

I have a mamas and papas moove and a maclaren for the carboot but I do really want a bugaboo bee, simply because its small and compact and has the option to face both ways. Plus I love the yellow colour grin

FeckOffCup Sat 13-Jul-13 21:32:11

I really wish I had got an icandy instead of a graco travel system, PILs had offered to buy the pram and I didn't want to seem like I was taking the piss by going for one of the more expensive ones. I love checking out buggies but not to judge, I have buggy envy, I would have a different one for every day of the week if money and space were no object. Who cares what someone else thinks of your buggy, I've recently had to get rid of one (it broke) that I'm pretty sure most people on this thread would judge/eyeroll at.

TheFallenNinja Sat 13-Jul-13 21:40:19

I bought the Mothercare Trenton System. It's built like a soviet era tank, can carry a weeks shopping and I'm pretty sure would convert into an iron lung / decompression chamber/ panic room.

It takes loads of room up at play group and I'm sure is the next possible replacement for the British Army land rover.

It's mint smile

I used to know the make/model/specs/price range of almost every pram I saw when dd was younger as we went through loads of them - mainly mid price strollers/buggies from 50-100 quid - and I loved it.

By the time i had ds 6 years later I couldn't give a crap - his pram was a massive german thing from eBay which I loved even if it was nick named the monster truck grin he's had 3 strollers since then and hated them all. He does love his petite star bizzi which I got bnib off ebay for £50 instead of £130.

Dd2's pram is a chicco nunu rrp 330 I got it for 165 including delivery. The twin pram for ds and dd2 is a graco duosport rrp 180 I got it for 95 bnib.

I like nice prams/pushchairs but the most important part to me is that they suit what I need and for ds to have a bumper bar he loves his - once I've found what I want I bargain hunt for a while until I find a great deal/time 'runs out' and I have to buy.

I couldn't be arsed judging someone else's pram mine take too much of my mind up winkgrin

Sparklingbrook Sat 13-Jul-13 22:00:01

This thread is such an eye opener, I had no idea. This must be a very modern thing-pram envy. Or I was too frazzled/tired/stressed in 1999 to notice it.

CruCru Sat 13-Jul-13 23:15:06

Thing is, buggies have only recently become interesting or desirable. I remember looking at some in the early nineties and thing how horrid they all were. Sort of grey / beige with cheap nasty looking fabrics. They looked like those grey shoes marketed to old people.

Earlier someone said what about P+Ts. As far as I can see that leads to a load of people who haven't had kids close in age judging you as you clearly don't value having your youngest being able to see up (I am planning to get one as I can't fit a side by side in the hallway).

MummytoMog Sun 14-Jul-13 00:45:04

I bought my Donkey new. It's the only new pushchair I have ever bought out of at least ten. Je ne regrette rien.

HopHopHopSkip Sun 14-Jul-13 00:57:17

I "judge" on how practical it looks (eg huge wide thing I'll think that must be irritating to go shopping with) but not on price or brand.

I spend the most time judging mine atm as 9 m/o DD has piles of food wiped over it within about 5 seconds recently blush

My first pram was a Bugaboo Frog, £250 2nd hand with all the trimmings. Got it as I wanted something with big tyres practical for dog walking and wanted to look cool tbh

Got a 10 year old Maclaren Quest for £15 and sold the Bugaboo, used the Quest until the wheels fell off, literally.

Bought a P&T Sport which was great to do the shopping in as we didn't have a car.

Bought a 15 year old Maclaren Triumph in perfect nick for £30 which we use all the time.

Found an Out 'n' About Nipper next to a bin, one of the tyres was popped. Thrilled as I was pg again (MC in the end), replaced the tyre. Car broke again so was great for shopping. Great for when I look after DS's pals. Still use the Triumph as a main buggy.

So basically I have gone from yummy mummy to bin scrounger within a couple of years, and everything in between. That's the way to do it. wink

megsmouse Sun 14-Jul-13 01:26:24

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

YoniSingWhenYoureWinning Sun 14-Jul-13 01:42:50

I unashamedly covet the most showy, ludicrously priced buggies on the market and didn't buy one only because dh wouldn't let me I am so sensible with money

MrsMook Sun 14-Jul-13 02:05:07

I got the pram that was the best fit for my needs and desires (SC linear freeway). Still going strong for DS2. Bonus, I have a seat on top so can put DS1 up there when he's tired, yet still have DS2 laid down, parent facing and have a better view than the back of a seat. (DS1 is curious/blooming nosey, and DS2 is of the same mold. The more of the world they can observe, the happier they are.

I don't really care what people have as long as they pick something appropriate to their needs. I was trying to make small talk with a mum at BuggyFit- it was hard going, so as we had the same pram, I asked her what she thought of it. I unblocked a torrent of verbal diarhorea about how heavy and big it was and it didn't fit in her car and she had to keep borrowing her boyfriends car... Err, well, it's pretty obvious it's a big pram- that does tend to be one of the criteria people check first- does it fit in my car (or suitable for public transport), so sorry, no sympathy, more fool her. (It looked very new- not a random eBay bargain).

CheungFun Sun 14-Jul-13 02:43:44

If I do see someone with an iCandy or Bugaboo I do try to have a nose at it as they're so expensive bought new, just because I was too scared to properly look at one in the shop when I was pregnant in case I really 'had to have it'!

I think they're very nice, and if you can afford one, why not?!

McGeeDiNozzo Sun 14-Jul-13 04:01:44

I like sleek ones like Quinnys that you can fit on buses without causing too many problems.

Unfortunately, I own a tank.

Pitmountainpony Sun 14-Jul-13 04:59:16

Dora.google Audi ad 90 s.
You will find that it is BMW s historically driven by twats....something this infamous advert for Audi made clear for ever.
Audis are driven by the discerning we are led to believe.

AlexReidsLonelyBraincell Sun 14-Jul-13 05:22:13

My Bugaboo Cameleon is still going strong with DC2, and we walk a lot.

It appealed to me as I liked the carrycot bit for when they were tiny, the adapters to fit the car seat on, and the parent facing/outward facing pushchair bit for when they're bigger.
It also reclines well for sleeps. The adjustable handle is handy too. My two year old still goes in it for longer trips

There is some inverted snobbery goes on with them, but I didn't care. It suited our needs perfectly and though was an expensive initial outlay it is still in such good condition well be able to pass/sell it on to somebody else.

Everyone ends up with a Maclaren in the end anyway. grin

DontmindifIdo Sun 14-Jul-13 05:57:46

Not everyone ends up with a mcclaren! Actually amongst mummy friends they are rare things, but then the only ones I know who bought one are mums who bought cheaper buggies to start with that didn't really last or suit their needs. Everyone I know with an iCandy or bugaboo just used that until their dc was walking without needing a buggy. I did end up having to buy a cheap umbrella fold for nursery run as they would only store buggies that folded in one piece, and I hated pushing it.

MissTweed Sun 14-Jul-13 06:14:46

We very nearly bought a bugaboo after looking at it in depth at mothercare. After thinking about it we couldn't bring ourselves to buy one as I know what people would think of us if we did. I am a professional and work with many mothers that could afford numerous bugaboos if they wanted but not one has one! 3 wheelers, like baby jogger GT are more common. It is the science industry so not 'fashion' lead and maybe we just all like practicality over trendiness.

MissTweed Sun 14-Jul-13 06:30:12

Bugaboos are good though and I was really tempted... Another buggy fitted the bill better though and just happened to be £400! Cheaper!

noelstudios Sun 14-Jul-13 06:30:41

Oh my god, the day I could put my twins in a bashed up second hand maclaren was amazing. We could go on the tube and buses and everything. Awesome. I am a reverse snob, I find that people I know who've spent a fortune on a pram are also the ones who think the world is interested in every minute detail going on Facebook. Tedious and boring.

Kafri Sun 14-Jul-13 06:41:31

I have an uppababy vista which I love but unfortunately DS doesn't grin

Which of the bugaboo models is it that's really wide and has the basket next to the pram seat instead of under. Why why why would anyone WANT to make their pram wider. Surely it just makes navigating shops, doorways, narrow pavements more of a PITA??

I saw a girl the other day with an iCandy (not sure which fruit) yelling at her baby who was screaming that she 'can't fucking feed you til I get some money from somewhere'

Kafri, that's horrifying. How old was the baby.
My friends mil bought the bugaboo you describe. She didn't ask for it and my friend hates it :-( it's a really sought after colour too and she's finding buggy snobbery/envy is alive and well. Some rather nasty 'Kate Middleton' and money than sense comments.
She actually avoids using it alot, she can't even sell it hmm
She bought it for her in early pregnancy when your still trying to even work everything out let alone thinking of prams.
When we go out I push hers and she takes mine.

While we are on this subject can I ask how you find doors? No one ever helps with doors do they? I always do with out fail. In the local shop they queue right by the door, yet no help, nor do they move so you can get by into the shop, because they are queuing!

TobyLerone Sun 14-Jul-13 07:14:35

I am actively avoiding buying a bugaboo because I think they're common. So there grin

What's the consensus on Stokke?

BergholtStuttleyJohnson Sun 14-Jul-13 07:32:35

I have a 60 quid pushchair, it's fine. I live in a fairly affluent area (though I'm not affluent). My pushchair is noticeably shitter than everyone elses but I've never been judged on it. I've never judged anyone else either. It's a pushchair.

CuppaSarah Sun 14-Jul-13 07:55:39

I have the Evo Graco. I absolutely adore it! I went to a giant mothercare when I was very pregnant and decided whichever travel system I could use easily while 8 months pregnant would be the one for me.

I never get the envious looks whilst walking around that icancy and bugaboo users get. That is, until they see me set it up or collapse it. I remember a woman looking down her nose and my lovely lovely Evo, as she tried to deconstruct her icandy. I walked 5 minutes up the road, got DD in the car, buggy down, in the car myself and drove past her while she was still struggling with it.

I really really try not to buy into the snobbery. Instead I just get extremely smug about how practical I am.

Twattybollocks Sun 14-Jul-13 07:56:23

I am a self confessed pramaholic, but based more on design and practicality than on what people think of me (I really couldn't give a rats ass about that) I've had loads of different ones, currently a stokke owner as I love the look of it, love the high seat, love the easy pushing, and love the huge basket (its the crusi) I love that I don't need a highchair in cafes etc, and when she was smaller, eating out was always so easy as she never cried because she could always see everyone at the table because its so high up. I also love the fact that I can change the fabrics if I get bored of the colour and fancy a change, or there is a summer kit for really hot weather and a winter kit for really cold weather.
I also have the sheepskin liner which is lush and my baby always looks so comfy and cosy in there. Yes it was expensive, but I can afford it. Yes it's big folded but I have a big boot so its not a problem. The back wheels are fairly wide, but it still fits through a standard door.
I had a bugaboo for my second baby, which I liked but its so low down that I found with this baby she couldn't see me with the hood up, so she cried, and with the hood down the sun was in her eyes and she cried.

Twattybollocks Sun 14-Jul-13 08:02:16

I don't judge other people's pushchairs (unless they are filthy dirty or unsuitable for the age of the baby, like that poor newborn I saw being pushed round town in an umberella type thing that didn't fully recline, poor baby was slumped sideways with its tiny precious head resting on the metal side of the pushchair screaming its head off, possibly because it couldn't see its mother, possibly because its head was hurting I don't know (or maybe it was just hungry or needing a nappy change, possibly nothing to do with the buggy). I know a lot of people can't afford expensive rear facing pushchairs but I would think that this woman with her hair extensions, 2" thick makeup and iPhone probably could afford something slightly more suitable, and anyway there are cheap umberella things that lie completely flat for tiny babies.

Kafri Sun 14-Jul-13 08:21:32

makeitup my DS is 7m and hers looked probably slightly older so I'd guess 9/10 months.

My DS tolerates his pram for a short period but then gets whiny and screamy. He hates being constrained in anything - his car seat, pram, jumperoo, sling, high chair - he's a bloody nightmare bless him.

My pram (uppababy) folds really easily - push a button, push handle down, pram folds down. Simple as really. It's light and soft to push and is good on different surfaces so it was a practicality choice for me. I do quite like the iCandy models but they were even more expensive than my vista so decided I didn't want to spend any more. Just hoping DS gets more tolerant of it as he gets older. He's getting bloody heavy now.

Paintyourbox Sun 14-Jul-13 08:22:42

I have a Bugaboo (that we bought new) and drive an Audi shock

I can't believe people get snobby over things like a pram! We bought it because it suited our needs and we could afford it. Why not? Same goes for the car.

Interesting that on MN it's acceptable to say "everyone with a Bugaboo is a twat" but not acceptable to say "all benefit claimants are scroungers"

Both are generalisations and both are wrong! Double standards perhaps?

DontmindifIdo Sun 14-Jul-13 08:35:01

Kafri, the bugaboo with the side bit is the donkey, if you only need one seat you can put a basket in its place, which lets face it, if you have a double as you've got two close in age (rather than twins) most end up using the spare seat while oldest isn't in it for any reason as a glorified basket...

Baby Jogger City Mini GT. That is all. No other pushchair should exist and God knows I've tried them all!

YY paintyourbox - I completely agree. The inverse snobbery here is astounding sometimes.

Kafri I'd have been open mouthed with shock!!!

MiaowTheCat Sun 14-Jul-13 09:15:01

I'll admit I did judge one woman locally with her brand new immaculate Donkey. She's got the cream colour set on it and I judged thinking - you're either going to drive yourself insane trying to keep that clean or it's going to be manky by the time the kids are a year.

You don't half get shitty looks and snarky comments with a phil and teds though in double mode. I had to laugh at the woman the other day though who did a double take and noticed the second seat and commented "Oooh how clever, a bunk bed buggy"

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 09:21:32

I thought the basket on the Bugaboo Donkey was to put a newborn in-I thought it was a double. blush

IceAddict Sun 14-Jul-13 09:22:51

I had a second hand Jané with ds. Loved it but quite big. Bought second hand phil & teds when dd was born, hardly used it and swapped it for a £27 argos stroller when she was big enough. I didn't care which pram I had as long as it did the job and my baby was safe and comfy. I cant understand the fuss about prams they do not excite me in the slightest.

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 09:43:18

I am old but 'Phil and Teds' just reminds me of 'Bill and Ted's' with Keanu Reeves. grin

MummytoMog Sun 14-Jul-13 09:47:22

The side basket is actually really useful! The Donkey in single isn't any wider than the iCandy Peach, which has those annoyingly wide back wheels (I discovered after I bought it). I fricking love the side basket. And you can fit a small child in it at a push. Or a dog.

When I had PFB DD, I lived just up from Shoreditch High Street. I had a Stokke xplory, and I absolutely loved it, but I walked everywhere and didn't have to get it on the tube much or in the car. It is amazing having the baby up high and close to you, the basket is great for shopping, it's very manoeuvrable but it is a big bugger and never fitted in my car very well. It's a bit of a Shoreditch pushchair IMO.

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 09:49:53

I would shove the newborn in the basket in that case Mog. grin

Can't wait to go out and about and do some pram spotting. I might get a little notebook and write them down like train spotters do.

I have a stokke xplory, which was 2.6 DS's, and is now being used by 6 month dd. I adore it. On here, it gets a lot of 'its so fucking ugly' comments, on the street all I get is, 'how marvellous that she's so high up, isn't it lovely, and so clever!'

Tbh I don't give a shiny brass shit what someone does with their baby as long as it's not dangerous.

MrsFruitcake Sun 14-Jul-13 10:24:27

I've had so many buggies over the years that I've lost count, but I really must say that generally, the more expensive one is, the more shite it'll be and having spend £600 on one and also £49 on one, I can tell you that they very best pushchair I ever had was a Britax Vigour 4+ which was £149 off Ebay new. grin

NomDeClavier Sun 14-Jul-13 10:28:44

I have a BJCM because it lies flat from birth, had a carrycot for when DS was tiny and the car seat fitted on AND it folds amazingly. It awed plane staff the first few times I flew with it. I also have slings for practicality when travelling, a huge Silver Cross carriage pram waiting for DC2 and my DB's (as in from when he was little) Maclaren at my parents. If I get a double (DS will be 2.8) I will get a BJCM double....it's just brilliantly practical. Couldn't give a fog about the brand name or the coat but I do have pram envy for nice looking ones, including the Bugaboo cam is carrycot mode, because if the BJCM has a flaw it's that it looks flimsy with just the carrycot.

Pobblewhohasnotoes Sun 14-Jul-13 10:32:28

I have a bugaboo bee and I love it. It's an easy to use, practical pram, which is why I bought it.

Pascha Sun 14-Jul-13 10:35:54

I'm getting a Micralite Twofold tomorrow. I quite like that its very very ugly. Its nifty and that will do me.

AlexReidsLonelyBraincell Sun 14-Jul-13 10:36:43

<Puke> at mummy friends. I don't have 'mummy friends', I have friends who happen to be mums. I don't like cupcakes or Cath Kidston either wink

And <arf> at (paraphrased) "the only people who buy McLarens are people who've bought cheap and narsty fall apart buggies to start with".

hmm Who knew that prams were such a contentious subject? grin Crackers.
<backs away from the thread>

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 10:38:42

Wait for me Alex I will come with you. My mind has been boggled by the world of prams in 2013. I had my DC just at the right time I think.

AlexReidsLonelyBraincell Sun 14-Jul-13 10:49:35

Come on Sparkling we'll go and eat cake away from this madness. grin

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 10:51:39

Yes let's Alex, at a cafe with no prams as I may start to look at them. grin

<scurries after sparkling and Alex>

OnTheNingNangNong Sun 14-Jul-13 11:19:24

Bloody hell, pram snobbery, who knew?

I have a shitty Mothercare my 3. It's the weight of a Challenger II tank and is no where near as reliable. It's a good pram for the hill walking I do, but it's cheaply made crap.

Although I found the iCandy Apple a lot flimsier for double the price.

I do love my 7 year old Silver Cross stroller. It is amazing!

Pobblewhohasnotoes Sun 14-Jul-13 11:25:19

I learnt on mn that you shouldn't give a shit what prams people have, unless it's a bugaboo or iCandy, as obviously people only buy those for the name. One of the most stupid things I've read on here.

gotthemoononastick Sun 14-Jul-13 11:33:47

You have seen nothing yet...we grannies show off and preen when we are allowed to push too!!I brought crowds out onto the pavement with our lovely Stokke,complete with umbrella and the precious one sitting chest high,being performance grand-parented!

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 11:41:07

<runs back to thread> OMG if in ten years time DSs possibly have children what on earth will the pram thing be like then. shock

I am not pushing a DGC of mine in a fugly buggy for anyone. <worries>

gotthemoononastick Sun 14-Jul-13 12:05:36

Laughing at Sparkling!!Only advice is to start saving now.You are worth it though! The grandmother thing is an unexpected ,irrational ,fierce love story.

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 12:11:14

Yes moon forget the Uni fees I need to start saving for the fugly buggy. shock It seems the 2 costs may be quite similar amount wise.

Kafri Sun 14-Jul-13 12:14:44

I was rather shocked. Think my jaw hit the floor.
Seriously though, I hope little in got fed.

Wrt the donkey, I guessing naive in that I haven't thought about a second child. DS was an ivf baby so don't like to make assumptions that there'll be a sibling so have only thought about things from a 'one child' perspective.

needaholidaynow Sun 14-Jul-13 12:26:58

Don't get buggy snobbery.

I had a Silvercross travel system with DS1. I'd never get anything like that again purely because it was too big and heavy and like the OP had the use public transport. Lovely pram though I must say. With DS2 I was bought a dinky mamas and papas one as a gift off in laws. I love it. Perfect for manoeuvring around whilst trying to control a 2 year old at the same time!

At DSD's school I have a giggle to myself at the mum's who walk around thinking they're something with their posh prams. It's a pram. A Graco (you know, the "chavvy" pasty pram make) would have been just as adequate!

It's like shopping at Next instead of Asda because Asda is like, waaaaay out of your league!

scottishmummy Sun 14-Jul-13 12:54:23

Well you're contradicting yourself.for someone doesn't get buggy snobbery.youre inverted snob
So you snigger at ^posh prams^(how do you know it's posh) but feel smug at own thrift
You seem to v much get buggy snobbery as your post attests.you exhibit all attribute of buggy snob

I'm just bloody glad I bought the vista now! grin

scottishmummy Sun 14-Jul-13 13:11:03

Buy the pram you want.its no deeper than that
If you judge someone by their pram,that's your issue not theirs
Pram is a product,nothing more than that.

CruCru Sun 14-Jul-13 13:57:58

Hmmm. This is interesting. I have a 2010 model Vista (now looking very battered), a Bugaboo Bee (new, I am very pregnant and wanted something lighter so it was my birthday present) and a Maclaren XT (great pushchair, lives in the car boot). Planning to get a P+T when the second arrives.

Presumably I would be judged differently depending on which I pushed?

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 14:03:45

A pram for a birthday present? Isn't that like having an iron or a vacuum cleaner? grin I would not be amused.

CruCru Sun 14-Jul-13 14:15:44

Perhaps a bit, I didn't want anything else though.

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 14:19:21

grin Cru fair enough. Just make sure it's nice jewellery next year?

Madmum24 Sun 14-Jul-13 14:34:24

I do judge, simply because the new models are plain bloody awful looking. I can't look at a quinny without thinking some genius turned a computer chair into a hideous pram, they also look so fragile to me (proved correct by my shake check) And I just googled bugaboos and can't believe people pay so much money for them!

First buggy was a mothercare stroller (I never walk very far so refused the silver cross pram my mother insisted she had to buy because her parents bought her one) and it was great, used it until dc3 when the axle broke and subsequent ones were carboot sale jobs.

Yesterday whilst out in the town I saw a huge thing with double brakes on the handle, I mean unless you live on the side of a mountain and your baby weighs 25kg why would anyone need brakes?

I hate those buggies where the newborn lies underneath the toddler, it makes me feel claustrophobic just looking at them.

I laughed at a very smug recent FB status "Everyone is criticizing me for spending HUGE amounts on my babes' nursery equipment, it's not my fault I want them to be as safe as possible"..........ROFL!

scottishmummy Sun 14-Jul-13 14:43:45

All which places you in the back in olden times,prams cost 27p.no fripperies or features
People pay what they can afford,there are many prams all with features like brakes
For the more prosaic there's free cycle,skips,to locate your perfect thrifty bone rattler

HazleNutt Sun 14-Jul-13 14:46:00

So do you reverse snobs also look at new expensive cars, snigger and feel smug, as it's just a car and your ancient rusty banger does the same job? It probably does, but a new Mercedes or Audi is still significantly more comfortable to drive. If someone wants a more expensive model of anything and can afford it, why is it a problem for anybody else really?

Madmum24 Sun 14-Jul-13 14:53:26

No, a car is completely different. Cars have many different features, buggies do not. Anyway I personally don't care if someone pulls a buggy from a skip or spends £50,000 on a gold plated one with Chardonnay embroidered into the bucket seat with gold thread. I might think it's ugly though

5madthings Sun 14-Jul-13 15:00:06

Well all buggies have to have a break by law and yes they are needed. Even on a slight slope a buggy can roll away from you if you let go of the handle.

And they do have a variety of diff features, from lying totally flat, to attaching carrycots, carseats, buggy boards, converting to a twin pushchair or being suitable for beach, off road etc. To better sunshade or raincover. Adjustable footrests and all sorts of other extras.

We paid £500 for a bugaboo frog. Have used for four children and over ten years. Thats a pretty reasonable inbestment imo.

5madthings Sun 14-Jul-13 15:00:33

Brake... Bloody auto correct.

Madmum24 Sun 14-Jul-13 15:04:06

By brake I didn't mean a brake on the wheel that all buggies have, I meant two handbrakes on the handle like a bike. Surely no one goes that fast?

AmyFarrahFowlerCooper Sun 14-Jul-13 15:10:41

Some people run with prams. I'd find a brake like that quite useful having moved to quite a hilly area. It would make it a bit less tiring knowing I could press the brakes to have a rest from the weight of dd, shopping and pram when we go up and down some of the steepest ones. Plus going down the steep hills can make it tricky not to pick up speed and a brake would make it easier for me to slow down and less worried about the pram suddenly careering down onto the road at the bottom.

AmyFarrahFowlerCooper Sun 14-Jul-13 15:11:13

Oh that sounds like I run down the hills. I don't I walk.

5madthings Sun 14-Jul-13 15:12:05

Some buggies are used for jogging etc and having the brake on the handlebar makes it easier to use. Plus when going downhill yes it can be helpful to have a brake just to slow the puahchair/stop it running away with you.

Madmum24 Sun 14-Jul-13 15:18:35

One brake, fair enough, but two?

WaitingForMe Sun 14-Jul-13 15:19:08

All this has really passed me by! DH and I went to the Baby Show, played with loads and bought the system we liked best (Mamas and Papas Sola - rear-facing options, buggy bit lies flat).

I've had a few compliments and I love it. I've looked at friends' prams and buggies and liked some and not others. How have I missed this issue? I must be the most oblivious person out there!

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 15:19:34

Don't some have a wrist strap too? Like on the Wii?

I have the Icandy Peach Blossom (double), it was bought second hand for me and it is bloody amazing. We got it for practical reasons, I have a teeny baby and a massive toddler who throws himself about when he gets too tired, he wouldn't sit in a back seat in a double and having both of them in our side by side was just dangerous, this way I can have the baby in the back in a carry cot and the toddler still gets his good view and can be laid flat when he's tired.

Amy Our Emmaljunga Herqules has a hand and footbrake (one that actually works), maybe the other EmmalJungas do as well.

AmyFarrahFowlerCooper Sun 14-Jul-13 15:25:26

I'm picturing it like on a bike, one accessible for each hand? That makes sense to me. Double the ease of applying it.

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 15:27:10

Why would you apply a handbrake on a pram except perhaps on a very steep downward hill?

There's only one, this is it.

Sparkling That's what we used it for, we live half way up a steepish hill, was also useful in taxis.

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 15:30:12

That's brilliant Schro. No runaway buggy. smile

AmyFarrahFowlerCooper Sun 14-Jul-13 15:33:02

Ooh thanks schro I'm jealous now! grin

Pascha Sun 14-Jul-13 15:33:04

The wriststrap is a legal requirement in Australia.

The wrist strap!

Was in the park the other day with a friend. A couple passed us, he was pushing the buggy but SHE was wearing the wrist strap.

We didn't know whether to be shock or grin, it was like having a dog or runaway toddler tied to the handle.

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 15:35:49

Have the wristraps ever been involved in actually saving a potential tragedy? If the buggy is going in the river for instance, you are going with it?

Amy They don't make them anymore so they're usually dirt cheap on Ebay/Gumtree.

I really don't get the whole wriststrap thing. confused

5madthings Sun 14-Jul-13 15:42:46

Wrist strap quite useful when you have to let go of pushchair unexpectedly to grab your toddler etc. They are also a legal requirement. I use the one on my pushacjair for securing bags of shopping, scooters etc so they have their uses!

WestieMamma Sun 14-Jul-13 15:42:47

I really don't get the whole wriststrap thing.

Explanation of the wriststrap thing

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 15:43:42

Are Buggy Boards in or out? I had one circa 2002 so I am guessing 'out'? I haven't seen one for ages....

5madthings Sun 14-Jul-13 15:44:45

Still in sparklong you can get ones with seats now. I have one i used for the boys, the bugaboo one was very good.

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 15:45:01

I get that Westie but TBH I wouldn't have thought to wear the wrist strap on a flat station platform. Just goes to show. sad

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 15:45:45

Seats 5? Seats? shock

shock

Pascha Sun 14-Jul-13 15:52:50

Mine has an integral buggyboard which stows away when not in use. Just the thing for us.

thegreylady Sun 14-Jul-13 16:13:11

Oh gosh-wrong again! We bought dd a bugaboo for dgs1 because we read reviws and thought it was the best one.We had offered to buy it and dd thought it would be nice for us to choose so gave us a list of features she wanted.She said she loved it-I didn't mean to be snobby at all.Mind you it did two lively boys before being passed on to a friend.

AmyFarrahFowlerCooper Sun 14-Jul-13 16:17:32

Ooh all these things I wish I had! I could do with wrist straps too. I have nightmares of tripping on the hill and dd rolling down onto the dual carriageway at the bottom sad I might have a nosy on eBay later for all this things. Grrr ing at you all for reawakening my pram addiction grin

5madthings Sun 14-Jul-13 16:22:42

babyworld.co.uk/reviews/kid-sit/

Yep buggy boards with seats, mine had to stand but it meant I always managed to get away with not buying a double pushchair.

Grey my mil bought our bugaboo, I loved it and was very grateful, I am sure your dd was as well.

Grandparents buying prams/push chairs is quite common I think. My mil wanted to get is a gift and she came amd helped choose etc, it was nice for her to be involved and much appreciated by us smile

tanukiton Sun 14-Jul-13 16:33:49

I don,t know the make of mine !! The first was a Japanese brand lovely light rear and forward facing collapses with one hand. I ran over it in the garage sad . The second was second hand from a friend built like a tank, can fit a 2 year old and 5 year old in it when going round the airport. I could go and check... but can,t be arsed

Freudianslap Sun 14-Jul-13 17:15:19

Slightly off topic but I have noticed similar amounts of snobbery about changing bags, the mind boggles......

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 17:18:11

Changing bags? shock Noooo. Oh blimey. What do you have to have now?

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 17:20:01

This one maybe?

Pascha Sun 14-Jul-13 17:27:16

Nah. Don't care about changing bags. I use a knackered old rucksack so my hands are free. If I can chuck it in the bottom of my lovely posh pushchair all the better.

YY to changing bag snobbery here.

I get comments on mine alot, it's a pink lining one I found in a charity shop for £3.50! I'd no idea, I just like it and thought it was way more practical than the one I had and cheaper. I sold my old one on eBay aswell!
I was a winner alround I think.

I love my pink lining bag purely for the strap comfortableness and all the pockets inside!

WestieMamma Sun 14-Jul-13 18:00:17

I bought this bag new and make no apologies for the price.

gingermop Sun 14-Jul-13 18:23:06

I hav to admit to being a buggy snob, I hav a bugaboo cam and a bee. I love them. just told my best friend whos preg she best not get a graco, lol.
but then one of our cars is an audi so were complete wankers in our house
grin grin grin grin

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 18:55:39

I am shock at all these multiple pushchair households. One tends to do-then straight into the McClaren stroller asap? Well it was acceptable in the 90's.

Once the posho buggy stage is over is it straight onto reading levels in Reception or is there an interim competitive bit?

HazleNutt Sun 14-Jul-13 18:59:19

Of course buggies have different features too. I tried several, read the reviews, asked friends and got a 'snobby' one. Is it necessarily x times better than the cheapest buggy to justify the price difference? Probably not. I got it because I thought this was the best one for us. And honestly, if I make enough money to afford it, it is likely that I'm also not a total idiot paying only for the brand name.

pleiadianpony Sun 14-Jul-13 19:09:04

Bloody hell. This bullshit didn't cross my mind when i got pregnant. I thought i was just having a baby. The people who have said that to you op are tedious beyond belief and should have a word with themselves.

MiaowTheCat Sun 14-Jul-13 19:22:57

Don't some have a wrist strap too? Like on the Wii?

I like having a wrist strap on the knackered buggy tank - we live at the top of some very steep hills in all directions and on at least one occasion last winter I slipped and almost lost my footing and it's a nice little bit of reassurance to have around my wrist. Once I get off the hill onto the flat parts I don't bother with it though.

LookingForwardToMarch Sun 14-Jul-13 19:38:14

Whats wrong with graco? blush

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 19:39:02

Nothing Looking, absolutely nothing.

LookingForwardToMarch Sun 14-Jul-13 19:44:04

Ah good grin

Dd (5mnths) loves rides out in her graco!

Never considered pram make to be a subject where I would care what people thought...

(Hormones just made me sensitive today ha)

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 19:47:51

I thank Graco for saving my sanity when I purchased their swing. It meant I could put DS1 down and do stuff/eat etc. I have a soft spot for Graco. My travel system was everything I needed too.

Push your Graco with pride Looking. smile

LookingForwardToMarch Sun 14-Jul-13 19:50:35

Shall do Sparkling! grin

Rosiebells Sun 14-Jul-13 19:54:36
Pascha Sun 14-Jul-13 20:38:23

but why must every child end up in a MacLaren? I don't get that. Umbrella fold strollers with small wheels don't appeal to me at all because they don't suit my lifestyle. I live in the country and drive a car. I don't need a small fold suitable for urban streets. I need large wheels and good suspension.

Thats what has driven my choices really. What suits me at the time. When it stops suiting me I sell and get another one with a different set of criteria.

KatyTheCleaningLady Sun 14-Jul-13 20:42:22

I am sort of mystified by the buggy obsession in this country. I know you walk a lot more, but it just seems like such a BIG DEAL over here.

I just got buggies and then umbrella strollers off Freecycle. Didn't give a crap about anything but that they were clean and free.

I also have an allergy to other mothers in the sense of going to play groups or the school gate. It's my insecurity really, although I probably try to pass it off as snobbery. But, anyway, looking at what other mums were doing and comparing myself to them was something I always actively avoided.

Iwantmybed Sun 14-Jul-13 20:50:15

Strangely I don't really give a shit about pushchairs. Theyre just bloody overpriced pushchairs and do the same thing. I've got more stupid things to waste my money on. I've hardly spent anything on baby things, mostly second hand or the cheapest version if new. Both babies have not suffered because of this.

CruCru Sun 14-Jul-13 21:02:47

You know what's funny? Once we're all done with buggies, we'll need something else to cart PE kits, coats, tennis rackets, art projects etc. Enter the shopping trolley. There's already a bit of snobbery about these. As far as I can tell, Rolsner are the Bugaboo of shopping trollies.

<evil cackle>

frissonpink Sun 14-Jul-13 21:03:27

shock

Just watched that youtube video with the woman and the pram.

Jeez. How the hell did the baby survive?! I feel sick just thinking about it sad

foreverondiet Sun 14-Jul-13 21:14:32

My DS2 was bring pushed around today in a 9 year old Maclaren triumph which was already last years model when I bought it for DD -couldn't help noticing all the v expensive buggies in the park. Doubt DS2 is bothered? Don't understand buggy snobbery - could easily afford new one but don't see point smile

AmyFarrahFowlerCooper Sun 14-Jul-13 21:45:29

Isn't it also snobby to be all "mines a hundred years old, look at all these silly people spending their money on expensive new prams, as if the children even notice" like quite a few people are doing?

AmyFarrahFowlerCooper Sun 14-Jul-13 21:46:14

"I could eaaaasily afford one, dear, but buying new prams is beneath me!" is how a few are coming across. That's snobby too.

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 22:07:43

So. You can't have a new one, you can't have an ancient one, you can't have a posh expensive make or a not posh inexpensive make. What is allowed? confused

Pascha Sun 14-Jul-13 22:13:49

A sling smile

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 22:24:05

grin New or second hand Pascha?

Madmum24 Sun 14-Jul-13 22:40:02

sparklingbrook it must be fairtrade and organic and handwoven straight from the alpacas back.

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 22:45:47

Oooh. Nice Madmum. grin

HaroldLloyd Sun 14-Jul-13 22:46:56

I agree with you there Amy.

This pram sneery rubbish should end. You can tell absolutely nothing about a person by their pram what silly nonsense.

People all spend money on different things.

Pascha Sun 14-Jul-13 22:48:54

<hides sling collection as well blush>

scottishmummy Sun 14-Jul-13 22:53:28

Gosh how peculiar,all these pricy prams,bags so readily available 2ndhand for tuppence ha'penny
To the mnetters who desire bugaboo etc but can readily snap up for less
Funny that

Sparklingbrook Sun 14-Jul-13 22:53:49

I am fascinated by all this. Can you tell? grin

So. Cots, highchairs, and carseats. Any snobbery there?

notanyanymore Sun 14-Jul-13 22:55:07

Ooh I've been looking for a thread like this... I have no understanding of the whole buggy thing. My DSis is mad for them, I've got more of a 'its got wheels and a seat, we're good to go' kind of mentality. However when I was expecting DD3 I wanted a buggy I actually liked the look of rather then just the most practical/cheapest one I could get hold off. Ended up with a second hand Silver Cross 3D, because it looked nice and had 2 handles so I could stick my handbag on one of them. Since joining MN I've learnt about buggy snobbery! So, could anyone tell me what my buggy says about me? I'm dying to know now!

scottishmummy Sun 14-Jul-13 23:00:30

Depends what spin you put on the accompanying story of pram
2ndhand for 27p,or freecycle,or found it youre trying to be right on,care not for branding
Claiming a tesco trolley will suffice and in your days there was no choice.as above
If you're simply happy with pram,irrespective of cost then surprisingly normal

notanyanymore Sun 14-Jul-13 23:03:10

Bought it from a second hand baby shop on holiday. complete impulse buy as it was sunny and I got over excited

LookingForwardToMarch Sun 14-Jul-13 23:04:20

Whoohooo!!

I have never, ever been described as surprisingly normal!

Thanks Scottish, you just made my day. grin

I have soooo picked my pushchair replacement shopping trolley

CruCru Sun 14-Jul-13 23:33:43

Looks nice.

cerealqueen Sun 14-Jul-13 23:51:01

We had a Quinny, it had its uses, sturdy, great for naps but useless on public transport. I had no idea prams were a status issue till I saw some celeb had it too. I now have £40 Babydan ToGo and love it.

Before people judge though, sometimes it is worth shelling out for a higher end buggy as the resale value will be quite high.

Twattybollocks Mon 15-Jul-13 07:33:06

Actually the really good pushchairs hold their value very well, because 3,4,5 and even more years later they are still good pushchairs. Other pushchairs are very expensive new, but you can pick them up second hand (literally after a couple of weeks use) for peanuts.

Lots of buggy snobbery where I live. I have a Bugaboo Cameleon and love it. We have it though because for our needs it is simply the best buggy.

cjdamoo Mon 15-Jul-13 10:50:26

ds 4 had 3 prams the mclaren xt that was ds1s a graco travel system that I loathed with a passion but dh bought and a fancy pants mamas and pappas Ultima system 9 in 1 thingy with bouncy big wheels that I loved but weighed more than an elephant and was a pita to get downstairs from our flat didnt fit in the boot or on public transport.

dd got a cheapo reverse handle jobby because I was over prams by this point

frissonpink Tue 16-Jul-13 13:56:51

Highchair snobbery?

Well...I own an IKEA Antilop and a Brothermax Scoop.

Love them both equally grin

(Brothermax Scoop was a present. Ridiculously £££ but absolutely fab, and wouldn't hesitate to recommend it. Plus it looks stylish and DD loves sitting in it. However, silly price for a highchair really!)

JohFlow Tue 16-Jul-13 14:04:24

Who cares about keeping up with the Jones's?

It's a buggy and functional for your baby.

Why put pressure on yourself. They will be out of it an about a year anyway x

usuallyright Tue 16-Jul-13 14:04:45

I've got a MacLaren XLR. What does that say about me?

Sparklingbrook Tue 16-Jul-13 14:09:17

no idea what that is usually so it's fine by me. grin

Bit hard to be snobby about highchairs I suppose unless you take them out with you frisson. grin

Fillyjonk75 Tue 16-Jul-13 14:23:23

I got Maclarens because we'd already spent a lot of money on a travel system with a pram/pushchair but wanted something lighter. I thought about what I would be using it for - shopping - to not need to open double doors to get into a shop, needed to be light, fold up easily and go in the car and also fit down narrow pavements or into a restaurant without feeling we are taking up too much space.

The larger pushchairs and prams did my head in as a non-parent so I wanted to get something as neat as possible.

I think you can choose a bigger/more expensive buggy for practical reasons too though and some of them share many of the features of the Maclaren.

But I'm afraid I do judge people a bit for choosing things for form/showing off over function in general, whether it's a blingy pushchair, a ridiculously priced handbag, nasty loud entrance gates with stone lions on a modern house, an impractical gas guzzling car or a pair of heels you can't walk in and make you look daft. I am a snob though, I admit it.

Sparklingbrook Tue 16-Jul-13 14:28:00

This is where anything 'designer' goes right over my head. I wouldn't know a real Prada from a fake and really have no interest. I am also rubbish at cars, I don't know what they are just whether they are fugly or not. grin

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