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Oh dear think was a bit unreasonable but now not sure if I should apologise??

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Last night neighbours across the road from us (very quiet little street) were working on their classic motorbike and revving it really loudly. Obviously windows open due to weather and this is about 20yards from our bedroom windows. We live in a bungalow and it was so loud you couldn't hear the tv at normal volume etc. It was past 7pm and we have 2 dc's. At about 7.30ish DH went out and asked how long they would be as it was keeping DS1 awake (2 1/2), they said sorry mate, we'll stop. Anyway they carried on for another half hour so at 8 I went out and politely asked them to stop revving the motor as Ds1 was upset and tired and Ds2 (5 weeks) was screaming by now. they said sure but lo and behold within 10 mins started again. Got to about 9pm and I lost it.
I stormed out the house (in my nightie I must add!) and shouted that if they didn't stop revving the f**** engine I would wrap it round their f**** necks!
They looked very shocked and stopped, I stormed back into house.

Now I don't think I was BU in asking them to be quieter late in the evening in a family area. However I never, ever swear!! DH was really shocked as he has never heard me shout or swear - I just lost it and for that I think I was BU. In my defence I have a 5 week old baby and DS1 was really upset so I was very mad but still..... should I apologise? They are our neighbours and though we don't really have a relationship with them I don't want animosity??

Chottie Wed 10-Jul-13 20:46:24

I can understand where you are coming from. I would go round with a bottle of wine or some beers and apologise, admit I lost it and explain about having a toddler and a newborn and how everyone is really tired.

Don't let a situation develop, life's short and you all live close together. Most people are reasonable if you explain.

pictish Wed 10-Jul-13 20:47:02

Ach - I wouldn't overly worry tbh. You had asked nicely and they had agreed to stop, so it wouldn't have come as a complete surprise.

Stick a big bar of Dairy Milk through the letter box with a post-it on it saying 'no hard feelings?'

notanyanymore Wed 10-Jul-13 20:48:50

Haha I did that when dd1 was a baby. Spoke to the chap and appologised about 3 years later, he didn't mind! (I also once ran out into the garden shouting and shaking my fist at a RAF jet, oh the shame blush )

TheCutOfYourJib Wed 10-Jul-13 20:49:44

No you weren't being unreasonable at all. I would have done the same.
I can't believe you had been out twice before, asked nicely and they still didn't stop.
Why did they say yes and then carry on?
Revving motorbikes is a horrible noise and I don't think you should apologise, they should.

ArtexMonkey Wed 10-Jul-13 20:51:25

I think sometimes when people are taking the piss, it doesn't hurt for them to see exactly how much they are upsetting you or pissing you off. It really doesn't. But otoh losing your temper etc is not good either, but PERFECTLY understandable under the circs. I think if you reach out it will give them the opportunity to say sorry too, then you'll be all peace n love again.

notanyanymore Wed 10-Jul-13 20:51:59

Really? People would by them presents because they acted like total dicks and finally got told to shut the fuck up?? I never knew I was such a bitch until i started reading MN.

Lizzylou Wed 10-Jul-13 20:52:50

Yanbu!
I was wicked witch with some people when ds' s were small. Sleep is important!
Well done, they were totally out of order.

MyHumpsMyLovelyBabyBumps Wed 10-Jul-13 20:52:58

She should bring wine and sweets? confused for what ? Them lying to her and waking up a 5 week old? Theyre lucky that's all they got

maddening Wed 10-Jul-13 20:53:19

I wouldn't apologise, they should be apologising!

Brilliant, grin you probably scared the shit outta them, one hormonal raging woman in her nightie, I'd have run indoors if I was them.
Don't apologize, they were being idiots, just smile and wave or say hi each time you see them like nothing happened.

pictish Wed 10-Jul-13 20:53:50

Well I'd rather not have awkwardness with neighbours. Is no biggy.

ThePowerof3 Wed 10-Jul-13 20:55:04

They probably knew they were taking the piss after all you asked nicely twice, I'd say you were unreasonable if you ran out there straight of the bat shouting the odds but you didn't. I wouldn't worry about it

Pixieonthemoor Wed 10-Jul-13 20:55:50

Apologise?? Hell no!! If you had stormed over and yelled/sworn with no notice then you would be U. But you asked politely and nicely TWICE!! Frankly they should be apologising to you! Tosspots.

3boys3dogshelp Wed 10-Jul-13 20:55:50

I've been there op! I completely lost it with my (lovely) mil when she rang to see how I was and woke the baby. Ds1 was about 6 weeks old and really unsettled, I'd finally got him to sleep after a marathon walk with the pram and parked him next to the phone. How she was supposed to know that from 200 miles away I have no idea!!
I would apologise for swearing but be careful not to go too far - baby or not 9pm is very late to be revving engines on a residential street - you don't want them to blame it all on you.

Pimpf Wed 10-Jul-13 20:58:21

No way should you apologise! They should apologies to you.

But I would make sure that next time you see them you smile and say hi and keep being friendly towards them. If you apologise they may think your a push over and start up again, they def don't think that of you ow - well done you

badfaketan Wed 10-Jul-13 20:59:23

YANBU.
It's the kind of thing I might have done with a 5 week old.
However,I would still apologise for losing it with them.
My neighbour yelled at me about a parking thing once,something like a workman at my house blocking him in.I think he was right but I was pregnant at the time and he upset me.He apologised a few days later and I respect him for that.

You could possibly apologise for swearing, nothing else!

notanyanymore Wed 10-Jul-13 21:02:16

I know what you mean pictish I just think people don't deserve gifts for being unreasonable in the first place. Its a fair point though, OP when you next see them maybe take the opportunity then to say 'sorry for running out screaming at you the other night, my baby and son had been upset for hours by all the noise and it had all got a bit much.'

I'd apologise as well, take a bottle of wine and invite yourself to join them! grin. No hard feelings all round and the scare will have done them good. In a few years you'll all have a good laugh about it.

I feel I should apologise for the shouting and swearing but I should politely be clear that their actions were upsetting my children and hence me,
I hate conflict and leaving things uncomfortable.
I came back in the house last night and burst into tears!! Hormones definitely still awry!!

ThePowerof3 Wed 10-Jul-13 21:04:32

My DM recalls me glaring at her for turning the pages of a newspaper over when DD1 was born!

HenriettaPye Wed 10-Jul-13 21:05:06

There's no way I would be sending wine or chocolate over confusedconfused

Nor would I be apologising!! They were totally in the wrong. Ok maybe swearing at them was a bit much but IMO it was justified!

MissStrawberry Wed 10-Jul-13 21:07:31

notanymore has the best idea I think.

YWNBU btw.

twinklyfingers Wed 10-Jul-13 21:08:46

No don't apologise. I don't think you were bu in losing it either, they lied twice and kept your dcs awake.

Next time you see them smile and shout hello and be as sweet as pie. By the sounds of them they'll just go along with that. But they will forever know that the lovely woman next door has the potential to go ape if the mess her about!

Lastofthepodpeople Wed 10-Jul-13 21:10:22

Absolutely YANBU. You asked nicely twice and told them the reason. They were being really rude.

TondelayoSchwarzkopf Wed 10-Jul-13 21:10:41

I don't think you need to apologise. If they are big enough to ride motorbikes, they're big enough to have their antisocial behaviour called on. And it seems like it had the right effect.

If you were a man you wouldn't be feeling all sheepish and apologetic about it. You would be pleased that you took action and it delivered results.

spangledboots Wed 10-Jul-13 21:10:48

If they're usually nice people then I would apologise but otherwise I'd just leave them to it.

Lizzylou Wed 10-Jul-13 21:11:34

Yup, notanymore has it.
But they should really be apologising for being so bloody inconsiderate.

Yama Netherlands Wed 10-Jul-13 21:17:51

I would just nod in their general direction next time you see them.

JerseySpud Wed 10-Jul-13 21:19:44

Hell no i wouldn't apologise.

I applaude you.

BeCool Netherlands Wed 10-Jul-13 21:21:42

They were being rude by repeatedly lying to you. So although your swearing was out of character I think your rudeness needs to be balanced with theirs. So don't sweat it. grin

But a cheery gentle apology would probably clear the air.

Dubjackeen Mexico Wed 10-Jul-13 21:23:07

No, I wouldn't apologise. They were asked nicely, and said they would stop. It's a crap noise to listen to, at any time. Maybe they will be a bit more considerate next time. I'd behave normally towards them, i.e. say hello, or wave when you next see them. If you apologise, they may just see you as a pushover. Keep the wine for you and your husband. 😉

There is absolutely NO reason at all why you should apologise, unless you would like to stay on speaking terms with your neighbours. I think it would be worth it, personally. It sounds like you normally get on well with them, why let one incident spoil it.

Dubjackeen Mexico Wed 10-Jul-13 21:24:03

No, I wouldn't apologise. They were asked nicely, and said they would stop. It's a crap noise to listen to, at any time. Maybe they will be a bit more considerate next time. I'd behave normally towards them, i.e. say hello, or wave when you next see them. If you apologise, they may just see you as a pushover. Keep the wine for you and your husband. smile

Turniptwirl Wed 10-Jul-13 21:26:58

Next time you see them just say you know swearing was a bit OTT but your tired and upset children not being able to sleep made you a bit ratty. Hopefully they will also apologise for keeping up the noise after being asked (and agreeing) to stop. I would make it clear you're only apologising for swearing though, not the actually getting cross and telling them to shut it bit

tedmundo Wed 10-Jul-13 21:27:02

Bloody hell op.

You have a 2.5 yr old and your DH has never heard you shout? Or swear (under your breath of course!!). You must be the most balanced person ever!

Don't apologise. And dont give them gifts for goodness sake. Drink the wine yourself. You deserve it for being the closest thing to a saint I have ever heard of!

congrats on the 5 week old btw. They are YUM at that age.

cees Wed 10-Jul-13 21:27:06

YABU if you go over and apologise, they were asked twice nicely and proceeded to take the piss so they should be coming round yours with wine and chocs to apologise for their shit behavior.

Dejected Wed 10-Jul-13 21:32:47

Please don't apologise. They had been asked, they had said they would stop, they knew you have young children, yet still they carried on. I'm not surprised you shouted at them.

Jan49 Wed 10-Jul-13 21:34:46

I think you should apologise for the sake of good neighbourly relations and explain about having a new baby and lack of sleep. Otherwise you could end up feeling awkward any time you see them.

But YWBU for objecting to them making a noise in the evening. It was only 9pm when you finally lost it with them, so not late. 7-9pm is not "late in the evening".

Are you a friend of the woman who didn't like the neighbours mowing last night?! I think people who are so sensitive about noise disturbing their kids in the early evening need to put their kids to bed later. If you put your kids to bed in the early evening then surely you need to either get them used to sleeping with background noise or be willing to do things yourself to cut down the distractions, such as shutting windows, rather than expecting your neighbours to be quiet.

In a few weeks, it will be raining and cool and everything will be restored to normal.smile

ShellyBoobs Wed 10-Jul-13 22:10:44

7-9pm is not "late in the evening.

^^ This.

As I said on the law mowing thread, many people don't get home until 7pm or later, so it's a bit much to think that there should be silence at 7pm just because you've got PFBs.

Having said that, they shouldn't have apologised and said they were going to stop if they had no intention of doing so. You certainly don't need to apologise on those grounds alone.

If it's any consolation to those who think they're having a bad time with evening noise, farmers are currently cutting the fields behind our house and there's loads of machinery roaring and buzzing up and down with spotlights on!

OH went out 30 mins ago to speak to some of them over the wall at the bottom of the garden...

...To see if they want a drink, as they've been at it non-stop since about 7pm. Who would have thought cutting and collecting grass was so difficult. smile

EndoplasmicReticulum Wed 10-Jul-13 22:12:59

YANBU.

The revving is extremely irritating. We have "midlife crisis man" across the road who is always bloody revving. He can't just get on the thing and drive off, oh no, it takes 15 minutes of brrrrm bruummm brurrrrrm first. At 7am on a Sunday.

You asked nicely twice. They said they would stop but were still at it 2 hours later. I'm not surprised you lost it.

reggiebean Wed 10-Jul-13 22:24:09

YANBU for being upset, but I think it could have been handled better. For the sake of neighbourhood peace, a bottle of wine and an explanation wouldn't be a bad idea.

BreadNameBread Wed 10-Jul-13 22:36:03

I would go around and make a peace offering. I think you were right to have a paddy at them. You had politely asked twice and they had ignored your, very reaonable, request. Sometimes an 'outburst' works better.

However, I wouldn't want to fall out with my nieghbours. It's not worth the aggro. I would go around and half heartedly apologise for swearing. Hopefully, your nieghbours will then also apologise for being knobs and peace will reign again.

skittycat Wed 10-Jul-13 22:49:19

Personally I think both sides are unreasonable. 7:30pm is by no means late on, and in my opinion is an unreasonable time to be asking neighbours to be quiet because your children want to sleep... your neighbours lives shouldn't revolve around your children.

However, with your neighbours agreeing to stop and then restarting, they have been unreasonable.

If I were you I would have a quiet word with your neighbours and just explain your frustrations.

babybythesea Wed 10-Jul-13 23:20:48

"My DM recalls me glaring at her for turning the pages of a newspaper over when DD1 was born!"

Oh god - I did this two or three nights ago. DD2 (12 weeks) has had a few unsettled nights. DH came to bed and started to read a paper about 10 minutes after I'd got her to sleep. And then he coughed. I was so sure he'd wake her and so desperate for him not to that I smacked him on the arm and had a (whispered yet still slightly demented) go at him. He was a bit surprised at the force of my reaction! I did apologise but also said if he woke her he would be on rocking the baby duty for the hour or more it took her to doze off again.

Lora1982 Wed 10-Jul-13 23:32:37

Surely any apology would have them thinking that you're apologising for swearing AND shouting. You should not be apologising for shouting, if it was me I wouldn't be apologising for either

IneedAsockamnesty Wed 10-Jul-13 23:49:15

People mistakenly believe that ANY noise no matter the volume or annoyance is ok between 8 and 11 that's not the case during those hours your noise still has to be moderated to a reasonable level if its not its a neighbour nuisance and could lead to action against you.

Constantly revving engines for several hours will be considered unreasonable in the vast majority of incidents.

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Wed 10-Jul-13 23:55:40

Apology for shouting and swearing, yes. Wine or chocolates, absolutely no need! They were at fault here too!

It might be no bad thing in the long run as now they should know how annoying it can be.

BrianTheMole Wed 10-Jul-13 23:58:20

I wouldn't apologise. They totally ignored you and carried on with it. Someone revving an engine for that long would really piss me off, never mind the kids.

mumofweeboys Thu 11-Jul-13 00:08:31

Im in the no apology camp. Iv also stormed outside in nightie to scream at a bunch of teenagers who were sitting on my garden wall screaming and giggling. Had asked them nicely to be quiet but when they woke ds2 for the third time I lost the plot. They looled ahoxked and then they moved lol. I blame sleep deprivation.

MidniteScribbler Thu 11-Jul-13 02:27:02

There is a huge difference between the volume of a mower for fifteen minutes while grass is being mowed and the volume of a large motorcycle being revved for two hours. DC or no DC, that noise is unreasonable in a residential area.

MusicalEndorphins Thu 11-Jul-13 02:52:01

They owe you the apology.

xylem8 Thu 11-Jul-13 02:52:19

i think yabu noise from 7 to 9 pm is not unreasonable especially as this is not happenng every evening.why didn't you shut the windows and put on a fan ? Typical of the way mners thnk the whole neghbourhood, nay world, should revolve round their brats

TigerSwallowTail Thu 11-Jul-13 03:02:24

I have a 5 week old and an older son too so completely understand your frustration, but if it's really playing on your mind then maybe chat to them tomorrow about it?

ChasedByBees Thu 11-Jul-13 03:03:56

Weird nasty post xylem. [Hmm] makes you sound like you have issues.

Revving engines for hours to the point where you can't hear the TV in a house across the road is unreasonable.

YANBU and no way would I give them a gift to apologise.

JeanPaget Thu 11-Jul-13 03:08:49

I don't think noise from 7-9ish is that unreasonable tbh, but I can see how frustrating it would be with v. young kids.

Personally I would take the 'you'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar' approach and go round and apologise . I, cynically, think they'll be more likely to be considerate in the future if they like you/feel sorry for you...

I do think maintaining friendly relations with your neighbours is important and makes life much more pleasant.

OhMerGerd Thu 11-Jul-13 04:27:16

If they have any common sense this will have made them stop and think about the impact their actions have on others in the street. I did it once, nightie, mad hair and a pen and notepad thrust at neighbour asking him to write the note explaining to school why dd1 was going to absent after a night of no sleep when he had some sort of mini rave at his house which finished at about 4.30 am. I knew he'd have just got into a good drunken stupor by 6.30 when our alarms went off and exhausted, fuming and demented used pretty much the same language. He was shocked but I did lose some of the respect he had for me by losing it.
In your case it wasn't that late - yes 9 pm is getting on but if the first ask had been at 9 and you lost it at 11 you probably would have retained the moral high ground. As it is I think they're possibily feeling a bit wtf and perhaps an apology that is clear about what you're apologising for might be a good neighbourly thing.
Something like 'I'm emabarrased I used such bad language the other night and would like to apologise for swearing at you. We're terribly exhausted with a newborn and the noise of the revs was so loud it was making us all jumpy and the babies were frightened by it and crying. I appreciate that you'll want to enjoy some of this good weather in the evenings and I wonder if we can agree that while it's so hot and we've got to have the windows open if you've got something noisy planned past say 8.30pm you'll let us know so we can try to move the children to another room? '
That should indicate that you don't think sweary shoutiness is acceptable ( or they may start using that tone on you), explains exactly how the noise affected you and that you're prepared to compromise. If they agree to forewarn you the very act of having to stop, think and prepare to knock your door to say they're going to be noisy will make them evaluate whether they are being reasonable occassion by occassion. If they don't agree and get all shouty sweary you're back in the right and can deal with it more formally without worrying that you are being unreasonable.

CalamityJ Thu 11-Jul-13 04:48:10

I would apologise for swearing to improve neighbourly relations because once the respect has gone they could do it all night between 7-9 every night and there's not a thing you can do about it. So regaining that neighbourly respect with some reasoning behind your actions may help them listen to you and not do it in future. I would say something along the lines of having a toddler and a newborn has left you sleep deprived hence outburst or they may think they live next to a loon Then say you understand it needs to be done but if there's anyway they can save the revving for the weekend/ work in the garden or just do it as early as possible or just for half an hour then that gives them a few compromises to think about. But be warned if you act as some say on this thread they don't have to compromise they can do what they like so it is up to you to be reasonable. BTW a sodding yappy dog was barking outside my DD's bedroom window as the owner had a chat to another dog walker for half an hour and the only reason I didn't shove the bloody collar down his neck have a word is cos I was already in my nightie. And this was 7pm too. Understand where you're coming from but not everyone else does or should.

McGeeDiNozzo Thu 11-Jul-13 04:52:39

You'd be within your rights not to apologise, but for the sake of maintaining cordial relations with your neighbours - which is all too rare in this day and age - yes, I would apologise, and I might do it with a bottle of plonk too. If that makes me a softie then so be it.

MummaBubba123 Thu 11-Jul-13 04:55:04

I'm in awe. My husband has heard me shout and swear... often (but not in front of the children).
You're a saint!

PigOnStilts Thu 11-Jul-13 05:09:35

Sod them and their bottle of wine, you did ask them three times!!

Lizzylou Thu 11-Jul-13 07:04:11

xylem8, well you are quite the charmer, aren't you?
People who respect others would perhaps listen when someone with a young family came and asked them to quieten down. Once. Twice.

xylem8 Thu 11-Jul-13 07:51:01

i don't get this 'you told them threetimes business' .why on earth do you think theyhave to do as you say? they are probably at work all day ,and evening is the only opportunity they have to work on the bike.neighbourliness works 2 ways.why do your rights trump theirs?

IneedAsockamnesty Thu 11-Jul-13 08:06:29

If they did start doing it every day all day or even lots it would be very very easy for them to be issued with a noise abatement order.

Noise from vehicles being revved lots for no good reason at any time of the day or night are a very very common reason for them being issued.

IneedAsockamnesty Thu 11-Jul-13 08:09:56

Xylem,

Her 'rights' trump theirs because the neighbourhood right to not have to put up with nuisance neighbours is an actual legal right but their right to make antisocial noise does not exist.

People in the community have a responsibility towards other members and to live in a reasonable way.

RobotBananas Thu 11-Jul-13 08:16:51

Do not apologise!

We've got several people in our road with bikes. Most oftthem are considerate. The twat who revs his bike at 7am on a Saturday and Sunday makes me want to kill him, and there's a group of lads that gather at the bottom of our road revving their engines. They do this all day (can't really complain about that) and well into the evening, the shits.

xylem8 Thu 11-Jul-13 08:17:14

but they are not doing it all day os everyday so i can t see the relevance oe the above two posts

xylem8 Thu 11-Jul-13 08:21:09

sorry i meant socks two posts above. She doesn t seem to get the difference between occasional noise and regular noise

RobotBananas Thu 11-Jul-13 08:23:03

One inconsiderate person making a lot of noise in a family area when everybody has their windows open? They would have been disturbing the whole street! Its not just about children sleeping - OP said she couldn't even hear the tv because they were making so much noise.

OP - I bet your other neighbors were cheering after you'd finally got them to shut up. smile

RobotBananas Thu 11-Jul-13 08:25:07

And even if they needed to check the engine,they didn't need to be doing it for 2 fucking hours.

Inconsiderate twats.

8thplace Thu 11-Jul-13 08:32:08

I think you should make up with them too, and apologise in a jokey, embarrassed way.

Just imagine how horrible they could make your life if your not getting on.

I have always made huge efforts to get on with neighbours and good neighbours are worth their weight in gold. Don't let it become a big ishoo. I would probably pop over with the DC in tow so they have a visual on your point of view and if they have met your DC they are more likely to work with you in future. IME.

diddl Germany Thu 11-Jul-13 08:36:23

Maybe apologise for swearing?

Here, it's no noise after 8pm.

Revving engine-fucking annoying!

Situation resolved, he came round this morning with a big bunch of flowers apologising, saying he and his brother had got a new 'toy' and got carried away. His wife and 2 young children were away for the night and he admitted he would have been livid if it was others and his dcs were upset. said he would have apologised last night but ended up doing 18 hour shift yesterday. I apologised for my outburst and said how truly embarrassed I was and how out of character, new baby, etc, etc. ended up with agreeing a play date for our toddlers as they are quite similar ages and neighbours are new to area so he was hoping his wife could make some friends here.

Thanks for everyone's opinions, I do feel in communities everyone should respect each other, and in a family area with lots of young children, noise is part of that.

xylem - what a random, nasty post. Fine to feel differently, but please don't call my children 'brats'.

Areyoumadorisitme Thu 11-Jul-13 09:07:12

That sounds like it worked out perfectly smile

atrcts Thu 11-Jul-13 09:34:06

Ps - forgot to say they were not being fair to tell you they would stop, but then fail to do so. Very poor behaviour, have to say. But that's a different issue! ��

BeCool Netherlands Thu 11-Jul-13 10:29:09

great result - and a very nice apology from neighbour. it sounds like you may have made new friends smile

pictish Thu 11-Jul-13 10:51:25

Oooh what a happy happy result!
Great!

And THAT is why it is good to hold out an olive branch in these situations. Better to get along than not. Does it really matter who sets the ball rolling (though in this case I'm glad it was them) - so long as it does.

Lizzylou Thu 11-Jul-13 13:19:12

Fantastic Yellow, I am so glad it all turned out well smile

holidaysarenice Thu 11-Jul-13 17:19:29

Half past seven!!! YABU!!

And I bet they thought you would be a complete wanker if they said sorry we'll be a while yet.

The world does not revolve around your very special ickle wickle kids!!

krasnayaploshad Thu 11-Jul-13 18:30:42

OP,
Great result & YANBU anyway. For those saying it was OK for the neighbours to be making noise as it was only 7pm, I assume they didn't read the sentence stating you couldn't hear your TV!
Kids or no kids, it is unacceptable for neighbours to be making so much noise in the evening that everyone else can't have enjoyment in their homes.
Er, holidaysarenice the thread has moved on. Read the OP's update & there was no need to be so rude.

Mehrida Japan Thu 11-Jul-13 18:56:24

Glad it worked out well OP.

Can't believe some people think that sort of behaviour is acceptable.

Moxiegirl Thu 11-Jul-13 19:16:13

Ah that's nice smile
And revving would piss me off if it was non stop over two hours whatever time of day and even if it wasn't keeping my children awake!

aldiwhore Thu 11-Jul-13 19:19:31

Many a great friendship has started with unreasonableness on both parts. Great outcome.

SoleSource England Thu 11-Jul-13 19:36:52

YABU for continuing to worry over a pair of prats.

Do not apologise x

SoleSource England Thu 11-Jul-13 19:37:47

Oh bugger!

Debsndan Thu 11-Jul-13 20:06:35

Great result! <warm fuzzy>

Glad it worked out well OP. smile

CalamityJ Thu 11-Jul-13 23:00:30

Great outcome. Well handled OP

Pimpf Fri 12-Jul-13 22:51:50

Fantastic outcome all round.

whois Sat 13-Jul-13 00:17:46

I would apologise for loosing my temper. Also, if they are normally quiet and considerate you don't want to cause a fall out over one night of noise.

Whothefuckfarted Sat 13-Jul-13 08:59:07

YWNBU

Mia4 Sat 13-Jul-13 10:58:13

YANBU, they were taking the piss and fobbing you off. Revving bikes is very irritating, we get one outside the house who does it for hours-fucking irritating.

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