To be so frustrated with slack parents...(sunshine)

(92 Posts)
ShabbyButNotChic Tue 09-Jul-13 09:25:54

Basically i work in a school club attached to a primary. It is bloody hot today (16c and glorious sunshine at 7.15am) and also school sports day today. The kids will be on the field all day, with only a break for lunch. Luckily the school has a few gazebo type things set up for shade. It is supposed to reach 28 degress here today.
I was talking to the kids this morning, and of the 16 children that were there (aged 7-11) not a single one had suncream on! Only 2 had brought their (school issued) sun hats, and 1 child had remembered their (school issued) water bottle.

Ffs sake! They are small kids who are having sports day on the hottest day of the year! Its not like parents could have missed this info as it has been forecast/was hot by 7am, AND school sent a letter last week reminding parents to prepare the kids before school, and a bloody text last night! It really winds me up, as we are going to be all over the situation now today, making sure they dont burn, provide them all drinks etc.

Cant decide if this is more annoying than the parents who send their kids to school in 2foot of snow in ballet pump style shoes.....just look out the window and dress your kids properly for gods sake!!

Rant over...

maternitart Tue 09-Jul-13 09:28:06

YANBU, they've just delegated all responsibility to you.

Yanbu - people don't think. It was my village carnival on Sunday and several children needed medical attention for sunstroke and dehydration, including a 2yo who needed oxygen. Ds is 15mo and won't wear a hat so has to stay in his pram under a sunshade and have factor 50 in his hair. See so many kids getting too much sun this week.

Mumsyblouse Tue 09-Jul-13 09:40:25

That does sound crap. Are you sure none of them had sunscreen put on before school, that's what I do with mine, using one of those 8 hr formulas (as don't trust them to put on sunscreen/cover the right areas at school) plus one of mine is allergic to standard sunscreen.

I have also sent in the hats, but seen my dd1 walking up in incredible heat without it on a school trip, when asked why she didn't have it on, she said it made her hotter...

However, this is why I hated sports days and all that bollocks at school. No amount of hats, sunscreen and water makes see-through me feel good in the sun for hours. Shade and the indoors is the only way. So, the parents ABU or sending their kids in without prep and the school and society in general ABU for expecting small children to be out in the sun all day.

Mad dogs and Englishmen.

I hate this too!

I am so worried about sun damage my boys don't step outside the garden without sun cream and a hat and giant sorts water bottle.

Luckily sports day has been halved this year so they won't be out all day in the heat.

Some parents amaze me at their inability to dress their children for appropriate weather.

<Best put the MN disclaimer and note that obviously some children with sn may resist or not be able to wear a hat/cream etc.>

HeySoulSister Tue 09-Jul-13 09:45:03

But if you are going to have a hissy fit over all these dangers the children face by being in the dangerous outdoors.....kind of begs the question as to why school keep the kids out on the field ALL day!

All that sun protection won't stop kids being affected, only minimises the risk. School should rethink their plans to be outdoors all day long too

ShabbyButNotChic Tue 09-Jul-13 09:46:46

Thats it maternitart its the attitude of 'oh it will be fine'.. I mean yes we have a few spare hats, but there are 300kids in the school! Its madness, we simply dont have the resources/time to be sorting all the kids out! It would take up half the morning!
Also we cant provide suncream due to potential allergies etc and technically we are not allowed to put it on them anyway, though we would of course help the little ones.
englishgirl i agree that they just dont think. They see a bit of sun and think its great, but they wont think its great when their child has burnt/become ill.
Im really not into overprotecting kids etc but i always thought suncream at least was a must!

GobblersKnob Tue 09-Jul-13 09:46:59

The parents are obviously totally unresonable, goes without saying.

But I think today is too hot for a sports day where it will be carried out in full sun.

Altinkum Tue 09-Jul-13 09:49:37

The water issue is a non issue really, kids can go and get a drink from inside (or do what our school does and have individual water bottles)

Sun cream, well that's anther issue, sun cream needs reapplying every 4-6 hrs, our school sports day is at 1.30pm, so the cream will be ineffective by the time sports day starts. You're not allowed cream in the school and children aren't allowed to put it on themselves.

Sun hats, is a easy one, however kids won't/don't like or wear them.

quoteunquote Tue 09-Jul-13 09:49:52

Don't take children who are not correctly dressed for activity out in the sun, they will get burnt,you wouldn't allow them to put their hand in a fire, it is no different, so just keep them in the class room.

Shame for the children who did make the effort to be prepare.

they need long sleeves, large brimmed hats, sunblock, shade( what the school is proving is not adequate and water, or it is very high risk,

Cancel the sport day, and send a letter out to every single parent who child did not arrive with the correct kit for the day, explaining they are responsible for the all the children missing out.

In future make it a school rule, trainers, shorts, sweatpants, long sleeve top, t-shirt ,wide brimmed hat, water bottle and factor fifty sunblock must be kept in school,in a bag, that what our school does as we get a lot of sun, and teacher will not take children out without them.

ShabbyButNotChic Tue 09-Jul-13 09:53:00

mumsy yes these kids were at morning club so were at school at 7.30. I asked them all just casually, like "are you excited for sports day? Got your suncream on?' Everyone of them said no.
soulsister i wouldnt call it a hissy fit i would just presume that it was the norm to try protect your kids from the sun, and was shocked at the number that werent. School are taking precautions by putting up gazebos for shady sitting areas, asking all kids to be creamed, bring hats and water, and providing cold water bottle top ups throughout the day.
The head has also surprised the kids and staff this morning with a massive box of ice lollies that they can have mid morning. Because he realises they will be warm, unlike their parents did!

NoComet Tue 09-Jul-13 09:53:05

Why everyone has to go out and bake on sports day is beyond me.

Why can't year grouos go out for 30 minutes, do their races and come back in, why dies everyone have to watch if they don't want to.

Why must we come and cook too???

NoComet Tue 09-Jul-13 09:53:54

why has the spell check vanished on my kindle????????

ShabbyButNotChic Tue 09-Jul-13 09:57:03

altinkum they do have water bottles, they are taken home at night, kept on desk during day. They forgot them. We obviously have water fountains etc in school but a child cannot be sent fron the field to get a drink, they have to go with a member of staff, as they have a tendency to wander.

Lancelottie Tue 09-Jul-13 09:57:13

And why do children suddenly become heat-proof at secondary school?

Rules for DD's primary: 'Children must bring a sun hat or cap for break times.'
Rules for DS's secondary: 'No caps are allowed at any time.'

ChunkyPickle Tue 09-Jul-13 09:59:59

I do think that it's silly not sending the kids in with hats and water bottles.

BUT

I also think it's pretty awful if the school does have water and shade freely available - even sunblocked and in a hat I would be in trouble if forced to sit in direct sun on a school field without a fresh drink!

Our school field had trees around the edge that we were encouraged to sit under, and we were all periodically trouped off for drinks of water at the fountain. Back then we didn't normally wear hats, water bottles were for cyclists, and there was no such thing as 8 hour sunblock, so the school had to think about these things.

Altinkum Tue 09-Jul-13 10:00:03

Shabby wonder off where?

In that case I'd get a flask with some plastic cups, the water issue really is a non issue, school has water, it can be piñon a flask and given out really simple.

I really don't get the issue on this one tbh.

ChunkyPickle Tue 09-Jul-13 10:00:39

school doesn't have water/shade available

primallass Tue 09-Jul-13 10:02:01

It's too long for them to be in 28 degree heat whether they have lotion etc or not. That needs rethought today.

primallass Tue 09-Jul-13 10:02:35

It will be really hard on their eyes too.

HeySoulSister Tue 09-Jul-13 10:02:53

Gazebos?? Well they aren't going to offer much protection really. Ice lollies, well it's just water and sugar... A cool tongue for a few moments.

School shouldn't be keeping them out all day

Dolallytats Tue 09-Jul-13 10:02:57

It's not just sports days either. My DS is in reception, so a huge part of his day is still playing outside plus normal playtimes/lunchtimes outside. Out of the class of 30, only 4 children have been sent in with bottles of suncream to be topped up (much to my DS's annoyance, I am one of those who sent a bottle in-he's totally unimpressed!!He is very pale skinned and always comes out of school with bright red cheeks so I certainly wouldn't risk not putting it on him). The teachers don't mind reapplying it, but most haven't bothered sending anything in. I don't understand!!

HeySoulSister Tue 09-Jul-13 10:04:19

lancelottie I wonder this too!

Mumsyblouse Tue 09-Jul-13 10:04:56

Is it realistic for a teacher and perhaps one assistant to apply sun cream properly for 30 children every lunchtime? It takes me a good 5-10 minutes to do my two on a hot day (arms, legs, face). I am just not sure they would realistically have time.

MerryMarigold Tue 09-Jul-13 10:05:32

It is not Sport's Day but I sent my ds without suncream (he doesn't burn - half Asian - and has eczema so we don't use it unless we're in the sun for hours so 30 mins play and 1hr lunch will be fine). I also sent him without water as he took one yesterday and did not drink it so it is still in school. He did have a hat though am I redemeed?. There may be reasons some of those kids didn't have what they should have had.

ShabbyButNotChic Tue 09-Jul-13 10:06:23

Wander off round school, they go in for a drink, then have a wee, then play with the water in the sink, then have a look at the displays in the corridor, then before you know it they have been gone 15mins and people are looking for them.

Its mainly the disruption with regards to the water tbh, school will now have to provide extra beakers, kids will be getting up and down for a drink, water will be spilt/flicked at each other. If they had all brought their bottle they could stay sat down, drink the amount they want and we wouldnt have to go round picking up a million cups.

The field does have trees round the edge, this is where the gazebos are being put next to so the shade will be quite a big patch.

Im on a break at the minute and the head has just told me they are thinking of stopping at 12 then doing the rest tomorrow morning, when its supposed to be cooler smile

Altinkum Tue 09-Jul-13 10:06:31

Dolly at our school you aren't allowed to send your child in with sun cream and the school won't put us cream on.

Wee made a huge fuss about it.... It's being out on the list for te next meeting hmm

Mumsyblouse Tue 09-Jul-13 10:06:52

And- I must admit I do follow the stay in the shade/don't go out in the hottest part of the day philosophy of prevention rather than cream at all times. But I for sure do put cream on on sports day although the way our sports day is done, they are only out for 1.30-2 hours each stage (stage 1 morning/stage 2 afternoon), because it's fairly obvious children shouldn't be sitting out in the sun for 7 hours on a day like today.

Mumsyblouse Tue 09-Jul-13 10:09:05

Shabby I think that is the right answer, not all the children have to watch all the races, either stop at 12 and do two mornings, or split them up so half watch one set, half watch the other, and no-one is out for more than an hour or so. They don't need to be out all day long.

RussiansOnTheSpree Tue 09-Jul-13 10:13:13

The problem actually with the school. What sort of ass backward school goes ahead and runs a sports day on a day as hot as this?

JuliaScurr Tue 09-Jul-13 10:14:21

dd's primary had suncream attached to the wall by the door to the playground smile
the kids helped each other put it on

ShabbyButNotChic Tue 09-Jul-13 10:16:53

And he has made the decision! Y5 and y6 carrying on, stopping at 12, then y3 and y4 tomorrow morning smile
To be honest staff have been suggesting this for years, even when its not hot the little ones are still totally shattered after a full day.
We suggested two mornings/a year group per day, but always had arguements from parents who had children in different years etc but hey ho you cant please everyone.

Regardless of sports day though i still think the children should be more prepared as they would still have at least 90 mins outside with lunch/playtime. But i also see the school is BU by trying to go ahead with a full day initially smile

libertine73 Tue 09-Jul-13 10:18:51

No YANBU kids should be able to play out int he sun even when it's really hot, and they can....*with sun screen and a fucking hat!*

LydiasLunch Tue 09-Jul-13 10:20:31

I am a cm and I had four kids arrive ten minutes before we left for school last week, no sun cream, no hats, no water. I have bought cheap hats for the kids because they are out in the sun and they have all been left elsewhere. I can put cream on them with enough time but can't magic up extra hats every day. And I shouldn't have to.

HeySoulSister Tue 09-Jul-13 10:22:03

Ah let yes 5 and 6 struggle... Makes sense hmm

HeySoulSister Tue 09-Jul-13 10:22:23

*years

RoooneyMara Tue 09-Jul-13 10:23:03

Sun cream is very difficult.

So are hats. At home I struggle to make my children keep a hat on SO they come in from the garden, that's what I have to do.

I can't imagine a teacher being able to enforce hat wearing among 30 kids. There is no option to stay in on sports day.

I sent mine in all day sun lotion...but I am not sure if it has any effect by say 2pm, when it's been applied at 7am and they have been swimming in the interim hmm

One of the many problems with schools tbh.

ShabbyButNotChic Tue 09-Jul-13 10:27:07

soul sister they arent struggling. Yes its hot but not ridiculously so, the really hot weather is due this afternoon. I see them running round this morning as no different to them playing out over the hot weekend we have just had. I presume they run around on holiday? They are fine. If they were dripping in sweat and shattered that would be different but they are perfectly ok in this morning sun.

FaddyPeony Tue 09-Jul-13 10:29:03

YANBU. This is just so lax and would make me livid. Sunburn is very serious! I'd want some kind of suncream policy drawn up asap I think. I agree that it's hard to enforce hats but parents should at least be sending them in - same with water bottles.

I do not understand people, parents especially, who don't look at or listen to the weather forecast.

HeySoulSister Tue 09-Jul-13 10:29:43

Yes but you said they didn't have hats/sun cream/water?

FaddyPeony Tue 09-Jul-13 10:31:59

Lydia I'm actually fuming on your behalf. I've just sent dd to her CM in about 5 layers of suncream, with a giant water bottle, two choices of hats, and a choice of light long-sleeved vs. short-sleeved T-shirts. Lord knows I am a shit parent in many ways but this really isn't the stuff to cut corners on. Sunburn and sunstroke in children is so fucking dangerous.

ShabbyButNotChic Tue 09-Jul-13 10:33:00

The children i had at morning club had no suncream, i havent asked all upper school but assume it wouldnt apply to them all. About half of them have a hat on. They have shade to sit in, school has provided water. They are going before the hot afternoon.

HeySoulSister Tue 09-Jul-13 10:35:27

Well sounds like its sorted shabby

Hope they all have a great day smile

sneezecakesmum Tue 09-Jul-13 10:36:54

You are being very unreasonable. Don't you realise it's the schools job to educate, raise, instil values, wipe bums and generally parent the children because some parents can't be arsed!

WeAreEternal Tue 09-Jul-13 10:37:58

I think far too many parents assume that the school will supply drinks/hats/suncream to children who don't bring some with them.

There is a little (6) in DS's class who was badly sunburned at the weekend, all her face, her back and chest, arms and even where her hair parts are all burned. Her face and arms (that i could see) were bright red yesterday and looked so sore.
Her mum has let her play in the garden all day on Sunday with only shorts on but didn't think she needed sun cream as its only England.

I think it is so neglectful, it only takes a few minutes to rub some suncream on them, and hats take no effort at all.

hatsybatsy Tue 09-Jul-13 11:19:28

it is bad when parents can't remember hats, water and sun cream for sports day.

BUT - I don't think sports day should be cancelled because of hot weather. They manage in far hotter parts of the world than this - the one year we have hot weather we should cancel the kids fun??

our kids sat outside for 3 hours yesterday- some of it was shady, some in direct sunshine. school provided water and squash in cups to top up the kids own bottles and parents were allowed to top up kids drinks/sun cream as necessary. Fun was had by all.

HoneyDragon Tue 09-Jul-13 11:32:10

Hmmm I got the cant arsed face from a TA because she had taken it upon herself to ask which children were not creamed.

She then took it upon herself to have a word. I pointed out that as I knew the weather was hot and they had an outdoor activity I had dressed Ds accordingly in long sleeves and a brimmed hat. Ds is also olive skinned.

I also pointed out the long sleeves were because they had swimming in the morning and the school don't allow the children time to apply cream afterward, before walking back to school.

So I'm on the fence. I think the school should address activities better to keep them out very strong sun, but parents should equip children properly too, to whatever extent the school allow.

And I agree with the other poster who pointed out many secondaries don't let students wear hats at break times. That annoys me.

I agree that parents should make sure their dcs have sun cream, water bottles and hats, but its bloody irresponsible for the shool to make them sit outside all day in the sun. Advice is to stay out of the sun during peak Uv hours (I think its 12-3pm?)

Sorry, didnt see the update, sounds like a better plan!

SoupDragon Tue 09-Jul-13 12:21:19

Glad the head has reconsidered the plans. All day on a field is far too much.

I know other countries have far hotter weather, but in the UK we are just not used to it (nor our pale skin- for those who have it)

SoupDragon Tue 09-Jul-13 12:24:11

I don't think sports day should be cancelled because of hot weather. They manage in far hotter parts of the world than this

And in far hotter parts of the world the children are used to the heat

our kids sat outside for 3 hours yesterday...Fun was had by all

Three hours. Not all day.

BlueSkySunnyDay Tue 09-Jul-13 12:33:42

I think all day out in this weather is expecting a bit much but to be fair when school scheduled it I doubt they were expecting a heatwave.

Our school do infants in the morning and primary in the afternoon and that's long enough. The children sit under gazebos, take their water out with them and get an ice lolly half way through. The parents sit in the shade under the trees.

I totally sympathise with you, it does seem like a percentage of parents delegate all responsibility for their child to the school and just carry on with their lives as they were before children. I do sometimes forget to put lotion on my very fair son but only when the weather takes me by surprise - this week he has had lotion on every day.

He has a juice box in his lunch but flatly refuses to drink water as he only likes it really cold. I got round this yesterday by freezing the water bottle, he took it to school as an ice cube and apparently by lunch it was such a refreshing cold drink that for the first time ever he finished the bottle.

BarefootShirl Tue 09-Jul-13 12:51:15

I know I'm about to get shot down but here goes!

I totally agree that many parents now seem to regard it as OK to hand over their parenting duties to the school and expect them to take responsibility for providing everything that I believe should be the parent's role - hats, drinks, suncream,etc. FFS, if you have DC then you should be prepared to take responsibility for everything that goes with it!

However, in the last few days I am aware of (a) a sports day cancelled because of overnight dew on the grass - H&S!!! (b) a sports day where the head banned parents from attending - too stressful for the kids! (c) a sports day cancelled because it was too hot. Is it just me or have we now decided that wrapping DC in cotton wool and protecting them from every eventuality is the best way to prepare them for life in the "real world"? The Olympics were supposed to be a great opportunity to get more people, especially youngsters, into sport but all I see is people looking for every opportunity to stop this happening.

Rant over.

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Tue 09-Jul-13 15:17:08

can I suggest that any you connected to schools that do not have a sun policy look at the sunsmart site and suggest the school take on board their recommendations. Schools... can you send out guidelines to parents as part of this? [[ www.sunsmart.org.uk/schools/schools-and-sun-protection here]] lots of good idvice and resources too.

superstarheartbreaker Tue 09-Jul-13 15:22:12

Sports' day is shite and should be banned altogether. Op yanbu.

LaGuardia Tue 09-Jul-13 15:23:01

School sports days totally suck. I would have turned up to school naked if it had meant I didn't have to take part.

my dd is allergic to most suncreams, but i still slather her in the best one (with least reaction) and dose her with piriton on school sports days!

IneedAsockamnesty Tue 09-Jul-13 15:53:05

Even factor 50 sun cream only allows you to be in the sun for 50 mins without burning and to be completely effective has to be applied before you go outside in the sun

GobblersKnob Tue 09-Jul-13 16:14:38

Factor 50 allows you to stay in the sun for 50 times longer than you could without suncream.

You would be right about 50 minutes if you could only stay in the sun for 1 minute before starting to burn

quoteunquote Wed 10-Jul-13 13:30:12

Sports' day is shite and should be banned altogether

Why?

miffybun73 Wed 10-Jul-13 13:34:21

YANBU.

sunshine401 Wed 10-Jul-13 13:37:06

why would the children be out on the field all day???

xylem8 Wed 10-Jul-13 13:39:37

And why do children suddenly become heat-proof at secondary school?

At my DCS secondary school sunscreen and caps are obligatory for outdoor PE in summer .The school has a supply of suncream and hats (and detentions!) for those who forget!
The school were very irresponsible to have the children out all day long in yesterday's heat

CloudsAndTrees Wed 10-Jul-13 13:49:48

I don't think schools having sports day on days like today is a bad thing, they have to be held sometime.

Children outside in this heat all day is probably not a good idea, but parents would still need to take precautions even if the sports day only lasted two hours. If they don't, they are still likely to end up with burnt children, and there is little the school can do about that.

On the other hand, we have had parents asking if their reception children can be kept inside all day because of the sun, which is next to impossible unless we hire an extra member of staff.

thebody Wed 10-Jul-13 13:55:11

Sports day should be banned????

Is that because your pfb doesn't win all the races then?

Lets ban all tests and exams shall we then?

thebody Wed 10-Jul-13 13:57:21

Golly how did we survive sports days in the 70s/80s.

No sun cream, maybe a hat and a water fountain.

Oh hang on as seen in friends reunited we all didn't die if sunstroke and dehydration( that's British for thirst).

burberryqueen Wed 10-Jul-13 14:00:36

the sun is far more burning these days than there was in the 70s 80s, there is a massive hole in the ozone layer over the British Isles.

schools are being unreasonable to make small children race around in the midday sun, no country that has a hot climate would even dream of it.

thebody Wed 10-Jul-13 14:03:57

Burberry, our friends live in Dubai and we looked around the school. It was sports day in June at 90 Degrees.

It's a myth.

aldiwhore Wed 10-Jul-13 14:11:41

If there's no shade I would request that my children either be allowed to stay inside or given authorised absence.

No amount of long sleeves, sun cream or hats can stop people feeling utterly miserable in the heat. If I can't get shade when I am out and it's hot and sunny, I don't go out.

YANBU op in that parents should take all reasonable precautions, but schools also have a duty of care.

The children at my sons' school weren't allowed outside when it snowed because of the health and safety implications despite the children being prepared and dressed appropriately, but suddenly when it's hot (and the dangers are probably higher) they do a complete U-turn.

My family is fair skinned, blonde and ginger, it's not just direct sunlight for prolonged periods that causes misery, it's the heat too.

I think there is a middle ground here. Parents provide the right kit, schools provide the right environment, and in this case it means providing shade.

Our PTA have recently bought 12 wind proof gazebos but they didn't use them on sport's day!

aldiwhore Wed 10-Jul-13 14:12:51

I got heat stroke in the 70's at Primary School on sport's day, it did happen, but it was put down to 'one of those things'.

melika Wed 10-Jul-13 14:13:27

Our school used to do infants in the AM and juniors in PM, so why would they all have to be out there all day. We were all sent a letter about hats, suncream and water bottles etc. well in advance. School should bring spares.

thebody Wed 10-Jul-13 14:15:33

Aldiwhore, and probably a slap for being so careless as well.

Good old days.😜

CloudsAndTrees Wed 10-Jul-13 14:17:20

My school has some shade, but we can't force children to stay in it for the entire lunch hour.

ShabbyButNotChic Wed 10-Jul-13 14:18:58

They did end up cutting it in half and doing 2 mornings. Lower school did theirs this morning, shade and water were provided yesterday and a great time was had by all. Head is looking at keeping this routine in future smile

LilacPeony Wed 10-Jul-13 14:19:27

YANBU but the school are unreasonable to have them outside in hot sun all day long too.

LilacPeony Wed 10-Jul-13 14:20:09

Oops crossed post

burberryqueen Wed 10-Jul-13 14:21:26

Burberry, our friends live in Dubai and we looked around the school. It was sports day in June at 90 Degrees
l bet it was the British school....grin

pigletmania Wed 10-Jul-13 14:21:26

Yanbu at all , but just as sports day would be cancelled for bad weather, it should be cancelled if weather is too hot, especially for littled ones!

janji Wed 10-Jul-13 14:22:01

Yanbu. When I was a head we bought in a job lot of extra sensitive sun cream and sent all parents a slip to return giving us permission to allow their child to apply it to themselves at breaks and lunch.
We actually had two children once who had been admitted to hospital with 3rd degree burns after a weekend of unprotected outdoor playing!

HumphreyCobbler Wed 10-Jul-13 14:25:10

My dc's school did their annual walk up the mountain (a small mountain grin) yesterday. All was fine. Hats/sunscreen/water obligatory. I don't think cancelling sports day because it is hot and sunny is acceptable.

The OP is completely reasonable however, people should prepare their children properly.

3littlefrogs Wed 10-Jul-13 14:26:02

Why schools insist on having sports days at all is beyond me. If they must have them, they should take place in spring or autumn.

EDMNWiganSalfordandBlackpool Wed 10-Jul-13 14:31:49

YANBU

My dc school are doing a sport related day at the local secondary school and will be out in the sun all day, my dc were the only ones with hats/water and all the kids were asked if they had cream on and only mine said yes.

[impressed as I am usually the slack parent]

PrincessScrumpy Wed 10-Jul-13 14:40:37

Yanbu. These are basic things. dd doesn't take sun cream as I put it on before school and her play times are only 20 minutes outside each time. Our school does sports day for younger ones in the morning so sun cream will still be fine, by juniors I'd expect her to be able to apply it herself without the teacher's help.

EDMNWiganSalfordandBlackpool Wed 10-Jul-13 15:10:49

Ours did sports day in the morning for infants and afternoon for juniors.
The opposing half of school had to sit outside in the heat and watch. So all of the kids were outside in the field with no shade from 9.30 - 3.30 apart from Lunch.

Raum Wed 10-Jul-13 15:13:22

They are small kids who are having sports day on the hottest day of the year!

Perhaps the school needs to alter the day it's happening then..

Dahlen Wed 10-Jul-13 15:24:54

I take your point in principle, but IMO the school are being negligent if a child does not have access to shade and fresh water at all times. A gazebo and those rubbish plastic water bottles ubiquitous to all schools don't cut it.

Access to shade and fresh water are a bare minimum even for animals in pounds!

You could wear the biggest sunhat and the strongest SPF and still go down with heatstroke, especially if you are intermittently participating in races with only a plastic bottle filled with less than half a litre of almost-instantly-luke-warm water to keep you and dehydration apart.

I rarely put sunblock on my DCs. Both of them hate the feel of it on their skin and one tends to react to it (even the hypoallergenic ones), a problem that gets worse the more it's applied. One hates wearing hats. Despite this, my DC have never been sunburned or suffered heatstroke, despite spending all day on the beach in many instances. This is because the ability to get out of the sun and hydration are far more important and effective.

TBH, although I do send my DC in with hats and apply suncream, I would expect the school to have factored in water supplies and adequate shade when risk assessing its sports day. My local primary has always managed it.

MaybeBentley Wed 10-Jul-13 18:18:47

Is it the same parents, by any chance, who don't send a coat in the middle of winter or on damp days because they've been chauffeured from door-to-door?

Bonsoir Wed 10-Jul-13 18:24:05

I don't think that there should be any school events where DC are out in the sun all day - I have horrid memories of school sports day and fêtes where I felt ill from heat exhaustion. As an adult, I just don't do that to myself or my DC and have learned that it really is stupid to go out in the midday sun, ever.

LilacPeony Wed 10-Jul-13 22:10:33

So all of the kids were outside in the field with no shade from 9.30 - 3.30 apart from Lunch. That's terrible. Are they ok?

DS2's middle school had sports day all day today, kids from year 5 to year 8. They weren't allowed inside apart from lunch, there were no where near enough gazebo's for shade, no hats, weren't allowed inside to fill up water bottles, and weren't allowed in to use the toilets. Also there was nowhere to keep suncream. Not to mention an utterly disgraceful display of "first aid" that involved yanking a child with a torn thigh muscle to his feet by his wrists. Thankfully he finishes there soon....

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