Stupid fucking bastard car driver

(69 Posts)
Eve Sun 07-Jul-13 17:14:57

.... A game keeper as well, on 30 mph speed limit on a country road.

Drove into back of my best friend when she was on her horse, horse had to be put down & she's in theatre with a broken back.

He was beautiful, he was her world, I loved him.

ImTooHecsyForYourParty Sun 07-Jul-13 17:17:49

Poor woman and poor horse.

I hope she's going to be ok.

Bloody stupid man. I see it all the time, idiots driving far too fast on narrow winding country lanes and then slamming on the emergency brakes when they go round a corner and there's a horse, or a cyclist, or a tractor.

How stupid do you have to be to not understand what may be round a blind bend on a country road hmm

when is she expected to be out of theatre?

EricNorthmanIsMyMaker Sun 07-Jul-13 17:18:43

So sorry to hear that & hope your friend recovers.
How the fuck do you not see a horse in front of you????
Is he being done for driving like a knob?

gordyslovesheep Sun 07-Jul-13 17:19:05

Oh no sad oh how awful - how sad x

dexter73 Sun 07-Jul-13 17:20:10

That sounds horrific. I hope your friend makes a good recovery.

Methe Sun 07-Jul-13 17:21:10

How awful sad

kinkyfuckery Sun 07-Jul-13 17:21:22

Oh fucking hell! Hope your friend is ok, please keep us updated.

How horrid hope wish her a speedy recovery

GibberTheMonkey Sun 07-Jul-13 17:22:23

Oh your poor friend
Poor horse, poor her
I hope she's ok

Mama1980 Sun 07-Jul-13 17:22:57

How awful hmm when is your friend going to be out of theatre? X

McNewPants2013 Sun 07-Jul-13 17:24:38

What a fucking loon, I hope the person responsible is banned from driving.

Hope your friend is ok and wish her a speedy recovery.

Rip to the horse xxxxx

SucksToBeMe Sun 07-Jul-13 17:30:54

Poor horse. What was he thinking???? I've all but stopped riding my horses down the road. My mum lost her best friend when they were both 16 riding down a quiet country lane. A drunk driver killed her outright. He was doctor and didn't get a custodial sentence.

I hope your friend will be ok, she will need a good friend like you to support her.

FrankSpenser Sun 07-Jul-13 17:36:09

Sentencing is far too lenient with regards to dangerous/reckless driving IMO.

I do hope there are no lasting lifelong repercussions because of your friends broken back. I wish her speedy recovery.

digerd Sun 07-Jul-13 17:42:38

sad angry shock.

angry what a cunt.

Hope your friend is ok. So sad about the horse, I have a friend with horses and they take up such a special place in her heart, they're like her children. I hope he gets brought to justice and your friend recovers.

* assuming the driver was a man.

gallifrey Sun 07-Jul-13 18:01:45

How terrible, that is every horse owners worst nightmare, poor horse and poor girl sad

RandomMess Sun 07-Jul-13 18:02:46

How utterly tragic and uneccesary

OodPi Sun 07-Jul-13 18:07:59

So sorry to hear this sad

This is dreadful, I'm so sorry OP. My Mum broke her neck in a similar accident 5 years ago.

I pray for your friend and her poor horse thanks sad

Branleuse Sun 07-Jul-13 18:48:15

oh god, how awful :'(

MissStrawberry Sun 07-Jul-13 18:50:40

What a shock for you all sad.

NatashaBee Sun 07-Jul-13 18:51:17

How awful. I hope he goes to prison. Everything crossed for your friend to recover quickly.

Plomino Sun 07-Jul-13 18:51:43

On god I'm so sorry . I've had some very very near misses , even though go I and all of my horses go out with a full set of hi vi. - jackets , tail guards , fluorescent mesh sheets , leg guards , even my back protector has hi viz on it .

And I've still had several near misses , including one who hit my stirrup and ripped it clean from my foot . People just don't see horses on the road . Or if they do , they either see them but don't take any account of them , or expect to be able to whizz past them with no safety margin and no consequences . It's not like we go on the roads for the love of it .

Please send my most heartfelt wishes to your friend and wish her the best for her recovery . I know how she feels losing a horse in tragic circumstances and I wouldn't wish it on anyone .

WireCat Sun 07-Jul-13 18:52:07

Oh my goodness. How awful sad

WireCat Sun 07-Jul-13 18:52:41

Oh Plomino, I bet you wish you could arrest them on the spot x

98percentchocolate Sun 07-Jul-13 18:59:19

I'm so sorry about both your friend and her horse. I hope that you receive some good news about your friend soon xxx

Booboostoo Sun 07-Jul-13 19:36:02

How horrific! I am so sorry for your friend and her poor horse. I hope she at least makes a full recovery.

I've given up hacking on roads after too many near misses. I've had my foot hit in the stirrup twice by drivers going past soooo close!

LRDLearningKnigaBook Sun 07-Jul-13 19:39:14

Oh, no, how awful. sad

I hope your friend recovers. Poor horse.

BlackeyedSusan Sun 07-Jul-13 19:40:13

oh love. wishing your friend the strength to recover, the drs the skill to help, and you to support your friend.

what a waste due to stupidity.

Oh how awful. I came round a country corner yesterday and saw horses up ahead, also in a 30mph limit. So I slowed down, put my music off (car window was open) and crawled past and kept crawling till well clear. It's not difficult to do.

RoooneyMara Sun 07-Jul-13 19:51:10

I am so very sorry.

PLEASE all of you who ride, please be careful, I mean I know there is nothing you can do to prevent stupidity such as on the part of this driver, but still, I worry so much about people on horses on twisty roads.

The thing is as a motorcyclist I know plenty of people who ride like tits on country roads, assuming nothing is going to be there round the corner.
I always find those roads terrifying even in the car. NEVER go faster than the speed you'll be able to stop at if something is RIGHT there.

So probably better to beg the car drivers among us to be careful, n'est-ce pas sad

maddy68 Sun 07-Jul-13 19:55:39

how sad, Hacking out on a beautiful day like this too how tragic
people do drive too fast on country lanes but they generally have a speed limiit of 60 which is ridiculous - the law shoul dbe changed

saintmerryweather Sun 07-Jul-13 19:55:49

oh my god thats horrific. i hope your friend makes a full recovery. rip horse x

RoooneyMara Sun 07-Jul-13 19:58:05

I agree Maddy. 60 is ridiculous. These roads are narrower, often have far less visibility and there are more likely to be horses, tractors etc.

Whoever made up the rules is a twit.

Deadhamsterssmell Sun 07-Jul-13 19:58:06

So tragic, R.I.P horse and I hope your friend has a speedy recovery.

Has the accident been reported to the BHS? I think they collect such information, though I could be wrong.

I find that the worse drivers around the narrow country lanes are those that know them well. I keep my horse at a big, rural livery yard; all the local farmers and game keepers know it is there and that we have to use the narrow roads, yet most still don't drive sensibly. Often looking surprised when they meet either horse or car.

Of course I'm not saying all farmers and game keepers are the same.

everlong Sun 07-Jul-13 20:00:41

Oh that's absolutely horrific sad
Your poor friend. It doesn't bear thinking about.

KingRollo Sun 07-Jul-13 20:04:02

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TidyDancer Sun 07-Jul-13 20:06:07

Oh no. sad

Poor horse and your poor friend. I hope she makes a full recovery and that the cunt driving is jailed and banned from driving for life.

BarnYardCow Sun 07-Jul-13 20:11:30

I wish people would slow down and assume that there is something around the bend, the sentences are not long enough. Best wishes to your friend.

Oh my goodness your poor friend. Sending my best wishes x

MrsDeVere Sun 07-Jul-13 20:45:40

Poor horse. sad
How awful.
Your poor friend I hope her recovery is quick and uncomplicated.

But I know she will be devastated.

People moan about townies driving badly in the country but IME its people who think they know the roads well enough who drive like idiots.

My late father ran a company which did horse drawn carriage drives for paying customers. A woman came round a corner too fast with stereo on (so couldn't hear the hooves) and ploughed straight into one of the hdc's. My Dad did everything he could to help the horse survive but six months later (same day as my eldest ds died) he had to have the horse put to sleep. That was one of my Dad's worst days.......... sad
OP I hope your friend has a speedy recovery.

JumpingJackSprat Sun 07-Jul-13 20:56:38

God thats awful, twat of a driver! It scares me to ride on the roads, i hate it because although i trust the horses i ride there is just not enough focus on horses on the roads in driving lessons and the majority of people round us do slow down it only takes one. so sad about the horse and best wishes for a speedy recovery for your poor friend.

PlainOldVanilla Sun 07-Jul-13 20:58:53

Oh my god that is awful! Your poor friend and her poor horse sad it's heart breaking! I hope that idiot gets a big kick up the ass from karma!! And loses his license.

Can your friend sue? I know that's not exactly a priority at the moment but it rages me that this arsehole could get away with doing something like this

minouminou Sun 07-Jul-13 21:00:27

Any news?
I hope he gets the book thrown at him and is made a huge example of.

mumof5plusazoo Sun 07-Jul-13 21:00:56

Oh no that's awful. I hope your friend is alright.

MyNameIsButterfly Sun 07-Jul-13 21:03:07

How terrible. RIP horse. speedy recovery to your friend

youarewinning Sun 07-Jul-13 21:04:53

That's terrible. I hope your friends operation goes well. So sorry to hear about the horse.

catsmother Sun 07-Jul-13 21:16:04

I'm so sorry for your friend and her horse. I hope she recovers with no lasting (physical) repercussions.

The people who drive like that are utter selfish and arrogant wankers who think they're above the highway code and consideration for others. On any road you should drive as if you don't know what might be round the next corner, but obviously on country roads there are different "hazards" to consider such as horses, tractors, cows sometimes, sheep, often lots of cyclists (because they feel safer there than on urban roads), walkers etc., and they can all be easily obscured by overhanging trees, high hedges, twists and turns. So you bloody well drive with CAUTION ... what's so hard to understand ? Sadly though I've come across a lot of dickheads in my time who seem to think country rounds exist only as their own personal racetracks - they're seen as "challenges" ..... how soon can you get from A to B and so on. This isn't just car drivers but motorcyclists as well who (IME, accept they're not all like that) particularly relish the thrill of the bends.

I really hope the guy concerned pays for this.

Agree, I hope the driver receives a fitting punishment, though that will sadly not bring back your friends lovely horse. How awful.
Sending her vibes that she will recover from her injuries xx

LessMissAbs Sun 07-Jul-13 21:25:04

Oh Christ, how awful. I'm so sorry.

Eve Sun 07-Jul-13 21:27:17

Thanks all,

Reasonably elderly, sun was in his eyes apparently. He was driving a Hilux at quite a speed.

Had to sort out disposal of horse this pm, Got. A friend to come with me & take some of his tail as I know my friend will want some.

No spinal damage we hope. Her daughters are distraught but her ex came straightway to look after them.

Will still be 6 months before she's even beginning to be mobile.

Her house is council, daughters are 16 & 18... & not earning, will they lose home, what happens with rent? As my friend will be in hosp & not able to earn.

There has to be a safety net in place for this sort of thing, Eve. They can't take their home away from them!

Can her ex stay with the kids at all? How awful sad

youarewinning Sun 07-Jul-13 21:38:25

Contact housing office first thing tomorrow. If she's not earning a penny housing benefit should cover her rent. If she's employed so will get income and then ssp she should get a means tested housing benefit. Also help with council tax etc. also if not earning at all she should get other income support type help - and in some cases you can get dla for short periods if its known to be a disability that will last a period of time.

As far as elderly driver and sun - slow down then. Surely someone with many years on them can muster even that much common sense?

TheSmallClanger Sun 07-Jul-13 21:40:06

As long as the rent is paid, it shouldn't matter if your friend is in hospital. She cannot help being in hospital, she is not subletting and she hasn't gone to live somewhere else.

I'm sorry you're having to deal with this, and hope the book is thrown at the driver.

youarewinning Sun 07-Jul-13 21:40:22

Different benefits depend on if she's at home or in hospital - but importantly the council will not evict her - they'll come up with some rent payment plan.

Musicaltheatremum Sun 07-Jul-13 21:44:06

Get hospital to do her a sick note. Claim SSP get receipts for everything so that when he gets charged you can put in claim for everything she has lost. What an idiot. Poor poor horse and friend.

LouiseSmith Sun 07-Jul-13 21:44:10

How awful poor horse, and poor lady.

I hope they throw the book at him!

ImagineJL Sun 07-Jul-13 21:44:38

She should get a significant amount of compensation from driver's insurance.

McNewPants2013 Sun 07-Jul-13 21:46:54

Go to the CAB and get some advice.

Surely there is plans in place for this.

britnay Sun 07-Jul-13 21:52:46

Was she and her horse wearing hi-vis?

Incapinka Sun 07-Jul-13 21:55:17

If the sun was in his eyes high viz wouldn't have made any difference... Poor lady and poor pony on such a beautiful day too. Good luck with her housing office. Sure they should be able to help

TweedWasSoLastYear Sun 07-Jul-13 23:01:25

Poor Friend and poor horse . I really hope it didnt suffer and the idiot driver gets a custodial sentance.

The sun in the eyes sounds unlikely , mid afternoon , mid summer sun is very much high in the sky , unless you are in the southern hemisphere .

The ' sun in my eyes ' seems to be a std get out of jail clause for drivers who hit cycles as well . Sun in your eyes meant your foot was unable to operate the brake pedal did it Mr bad driver?

I have seen some really good imitation Police Hi Vis vests with POLITE written on them. well worth it if riding on roads , and yy i know it shouldnt be neccessary.
Hope her kids are coping , accidenst can be very traumatic for family members

minouminou Mon 08-Jul-13 00:04:09

You're being a brilliant friend to her.

OodPi Mon 08-Jul-13 07:32:58

Hope all goes ok sorting the horse today. You are such a good friend helping with all this.

If friend isn't up to dealing with council etc get her go authorise you to and help her sort benefits if she doesn't get sick pay. Make sure she puts in a claim against the driver for everything she can!

yoshipoppet Mon 08-Jul-13 09:48:57

How frightening for all connected to your friend. I hope she is OK. I know someone who had a similar accident, her horse was killed and she broke her back. She is not only walking but has also ridden again, although it took many years of recovery.

SamuelWestsMistress Mon 08-Jul-13 10:38:03

How utterly dreadful. I've had a few near misses in the past and also know a lady who was in the exact same scenario as your friend. Art teacher from school drove into her horse, killing it and breaking her back and she wasn't mobile for 6 months. Driver also blamed sun in her eyes, but it was a cloudy day. Despite that she got away with it. Luckily the lady made a full recovery and is still riding now. She got herself a beautiful mare who she competed very successfully on.

There are always adverts on television, especially in the summer for motorcycle safety. I don't know why the BHS don't get the chance to promote safety either. Even if they had government backing and perhaps were able to combine it with cycle safety. I think vulnerable road users are often ignored when it comes to campaigning safety and its simply not fair.

I really hope your friend recovers well and manages to cope with the loss of her special horse. You sound like a good friend and I'm sure you will see her through.

froubylou Mon 08-Jul-13 10:58:17

Your poor, poor friend. Had a similar accident not far from us recently. lady rider was killed in that one. Heartbreaking.

We have ponies and I refuse to let DD ride on the roads. I hacked all over our area as a kid but its just not safe anymore. The police currently have a bee in their bonnet about the 'Polite' hi vis riding range. Disgusting that police resources and effort are being put to use to discourage riders wearing gear that may just keep them safer.

You are a very good friend for dealing with the recovery of the horse and taking some of his tail. I hope your friend makes a full and speedy recovery.

With regards to practical stuff re housing etc is she a member of the BHS? Or are you? They have a fabulous free legal advice line for members and I'm sure they will be able to help with insurance claims and dealings with the council etc? If you are not a member and are horsey, which I assume you are, make yourself one (its about £6.00 per month) and give them a call.

Some drivers are incredibly inconsiderate around horses and cyclists, in fact other road users in general and should have their licenses removed. And someone that causes this should be dealt with in the harshest possible way.

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