To ask advice on drastic pubic hair removal- how do you do it?(183 Posts)
I realise it is not to everyone's taste, but I have decided that I would like to remove most of my pubic hair. I've read several threads in the subject, and I realise how controversial it is, but it's what I want to do.
I'm naturally pretty hairy, currently shave around sides, trim the rest.
I definitely want to remove everything 'underneath'; most, if not all of front, and I have a tricky 'between buttocks' bit to deal with.
I'm not sure whether to wax, shave or use cream- or maybe a combination.
I would really appreciate some advice from MNers who do this- what method do you use, how often do you do it, any other tips.
Total hair removal like what you are describing will mean a hollywood wax. It takes everything off, it is similar to a brazilian but that leaves a narrow landing strip on the front.
I would wax as it will leave you hair free for a few weeks (depending on hair growth). The hairs will grow back finer with bald patches but this will be after several continuous waxes. Do not shave in between & exfoliate regularly.
Trim all the very long hairs but leave enough for the wax to coat & grip.
Personally, I'd rather shave than wax. As far as I know, most creams don't advise using on "sensitive areas"
I don't wax at all and never have <ouch>
If you don't fancy getting your bits waxed then what I do when I'm deforesting, is trim everything as close to the skin as possible, then I wack a load of Veet cream on, let that do its thing. Following the Veet I then shave any remaining hair. Works a treat, but very faffy.
Why on earth would you want to remove any hair between your buttocks? Apart from anything else, I would have thought the regrowth would be agony.
Definitely wax - couldn't be doing with the itchy regrowth that comes with other methods! I lop it all off - jusr ve prepared to contort yourself into positions you didn't think possible
Thank you for the advice, I'm taking notes .
curlew, I'm afraid that I'm destined to have long straight pubes (you did ask). So those in and around bottom cheeks are very visible. Trimming makes them itchy anyway, so I figured I may as well remove them.
Having fast growing incredibly straight haIs hair feels like a blessing, I just wish this didn't extend to my pubic hair .
That should say head hair, not hals hair.
I wax (it really hurts but you get used to it).
Re growth after waxing is way better than shaving. The only issue you might get us ingrown hairs, so exfoliate regularly.
Immac..just be careful in certain areas then I use the cleancut intimate shaver which has no exposed blades but keeps everything smooth and fuzz free without any pain. Plus I don't fancy exposing my hooha to a waxing therapist I don't care how many she's seen!
Don't do it yourself! Go to a salon. I get a Brazilian about every 6 weeks.
I trim, Veet and shave.
If you're thinking of attempting this method, here are my top tips:
As screwedup suggests, it's best to trim la booshe as close as you can before even thinking about applying the Veet.
Veet isn't recommended for maintaining the lady garden but as long as you are very careful, you should be ok
this is the voice of bitter experience. I ever so slightly touched myself near the labia and I was in tears with the pain, I couldn't sit down all night and it was agony to pee for about a week! Buy the one for sensitive skin too.
So, what I now tend to do, is slip an old thong on, when I've finished trimming, as the gusset offers some protection and it also has the added benefit of acting like a fanny stencil, allowing you to 'mark off' where you don't want to go past IYSWIM?
When the Veeting is complete, shave any hair remaining that you want to get rid of and voila a naice topiaried lady lawn
I would get waxed in a salon - just too agonising if you do it wrong yourself!!
Or you can do what I did - save up (did take quite a long time) and get lasered. It is honestly the best thing I ever did. I was like a yeti before and now I simply don't have to think about it ever. Did it 5 years ago and have had to have one top up since with the reemergence of about 5 hairs. It is brilliant on three counts 1) I am no longer hideously hairy, 2) I found waxing my bikini line agonising and had lots of ingrown hairs which is simply not an issue anymore and 3) my wax appts were inevitably the day after those hot days when I wanted to swim and therefore couldn't because of the sideburns on my inner thighs. Tis life changing, honestly!
Do a very small test area if you use Veet or any other cream.
An allergic reaction would be agony.
I go to a salon as they can get to the hard-to-reach areas. Once had them do the back too - what a mistake! Unbearable itchy week of regrowth.
Are you the bum hair lady on the escalator from last month?
get some good quality razors and just shave it. its the least painful, least drastic and works for most people
I do what you want and have for years, I shave twice weekly. takes practice but I couldnt have a wax tooo painful.
Oh god don't even think about mucking about doing this yourself.
Book a lycon wax in with a good salon and explain what you want taking off. Or book a Hollywood (everything off) then say you want a small landing strip on the front left when you get there as you'll be in the Hollywood price and time bracket.
Lycon wax is the wax that goes on hot, and is left to cool on your skin before being removed. Material strips aren't used. The wax sticks to the hairs and not really the skin - more akin to a bit of a stinging feeling rather than any pain. I've never had any bruising or blotches like with trad waxing.
A good salon will do a Hollywood pretty quickly - will take you ages to do and you won't do as good a job. It's not embarrassing, the beauty therapist will be seeing many women a day!
With regards to I grown hairs - I am pretty prone to them. Tend Skin is a life changer! Buy some and use it no matter what removal method you go for.
Why on earth would you want to remove any hair between your buttocks? Apart from anything else, I would have thought the regrowth would be agony
Always gets taken off in a Hollywood. I've never noticed the re growth at all - it's not spiky and rough like with shaving.
I second whois and advise you to book a Lycon wax. Itis expensive but the best thing you can do for your bits. Other option is to do laser. Don't fall into the shaving trap...it only works if you have fine light hair and very little of it, otherwise it's an agony. I'm quite hairy so I should know!
Veet cream all the way for me.
No pain, no itching when it grows back.
I recommend the cream rather than the mousse, because that's messy and difficult to be precise with.
Tell me more about the lazer hair removal! How long does it take? How expensive is it?
Here is madness! LEAVE IT ALONE
Why should she leave it alone?
Do you feel the same about leg/armpit/eyebrow hair removal?
Then that is your personal preference
However, the OP's personal preference is to remove her hair so declaring it madness and ordering her to 'LEAVE IT ALONE', is a bit silly don't you think?
why do people seem to think its a better option to rip hair out by the roots rather than just give it the once over with a razor a couple of times a week in the bath/shower.
Its not a huge area. It takes minutes and you can just do it again when it starts growing back.
Ive had mine professionally waxed and within a week i had regrowth, so ended up shaving it anyway. Plus the last time I had it done ive had a nightmare with getting spots in the area which are refusing to heal because of the heat and humidity. Wish id stuck to shaving.
I think looking like a plucked chicken and paying for it is silly forgive me for my opinion
Then I'm sure the OP will bear that in mind and not send you a photo of her vagina, and force you to stare at it
Agree with Worra that it is obviously personal preference but other than that I am completely with Puppy. In fact I do (sometimes) do the underarm region and shin areas. I'm not proud of that but they are on public view from time to time. Why on earth would I want to make the area that is only ever seen by me and my DH look like a little girl's?
Okay I get that sometimes you need to do something about the upper thigh area, but surely trimming would cover that
not a problem for me as my upper thighs are so disgusting with or without stray pubes that they ALWAYS remain covered
Why on earth would I want to make the area that is only ever seen by me and my DH look like a little girl's?
Well firstly (and I can only speak for myself) I'm 44yrs old, I've had 3 vaginal births and if I had a little girl whose vagina resembled mine (with or without hair) I would book her an appointment with a gynecologist.
Other than that, (again, speaking for myself) it feels more comfortable, cool and wonderfully sensitive during sex.
Evieanne I used to get Hollywood waxes a lot.
At the moment I'm embracing the bush - but when I wasn't, I can assure you my fanjo looked nothing like any younger than it does not.
And OP, if your hair grows fast there is no point shaving. You will have about 12 hours of smoothness before the stubble starts!
Waxing is the way to go.
*My fanjo didn't look any younger than it does now.
Gosh what interesting posts Worra and Pun
And I would wax (ha ha ) lyrical about the the pleasurable enhancement afforded by pubes but that would be tmi again
I agree, these threads often throw out TMI
OP, I do mine myself and I go for the same results you want: all off underneath, bum, and landing strip.
I use the Nads microwave red hot wax. It's about £10 and lasts 3 full waxes. I've never had a professional wax but I get perfect results, although it takes me about 90mins. Just take 3 painkillers first and it's fine.
Bum doesn't hurt AT ALL. Only bit I find stingy is the area near the front of the underneath where the hair sort of changes direction (well, mine does anyway!)
Go for it.
Oh and if you get little red bumps after just slather sudocream on it.
Worra why would I want to see a picture of it? I'm sorry thats not my thing
The little sachets of Nair sensitive are excellent and pretty cheap too.
Only takes ten minutes. When you shower it off a gentle rub round with a muslin cloth works really well to take it all away nicely.
I can highly recommend Skin Doctors Ingrown Go lotion (boots sell it) to dab on your skin to help with ingrown hairs (as well as regular exfoliating/moisturising), a little goes a long way and be careful to not get it erm how can I say...on your inner bits as it's quite lethal!!
Go to a salon and ask for a Hollywood. Tell them it is the first time you have had one (and have a glass of wine before you go to take the edge off!)
The first time you get anything waxed is the most painful, because the hairs are quite firmly rooted, but it isn't that bad.
I don't know where you are geographically, but try and find a waxing salon, rather than a beautician that also does waxing. The places that just do waxes (try a sunbed shop, they tend to have them) are much quicker and well-practiced. The beautician/spa places can obviously do waxing as well, but will be a bit slower and take a bit longer.
Another vote for a professional Lycon wax. Please don't try to DIY a Hollywood on your first try, it would be agony. Lycon are definitely the least painful and most effective.
I've had 3 laser treatments (of a course of 5) on my lady parts and it's worked very well - I was told I was a good candidate. The more pale your skin and darker your hair (i.e. contrast) the more effective the laser will be.
It's hard for me to say whether it's worked 100% because I have to shave once every 4 weeks just before the treatment (no waxing allowed during laser treatment) but it seems to be barely growing back at this point - it's been 7 days since I shaved and the hair is probably a mm long.
I found waxing to be incredibly painful, but I have a low pain threshold.
I'm always and thrice with a fair bit of and throw in at these threads. Before MN I had absolutely no idea that so many women were walking around with baldy foofs. I did this once a quarter of a century ago when pissed silly and boy, did I learn my lesson
Anyhoo - unto each their own I guess but it's so not for me!
If you are determined, this is a professional job only. A friend of mine landed herself in A&E with a botched home bikini wax.
Also, I had a 10lb baby pulled out of mine with what felt like rusty barbeque tongs so I can't help but think it absolutely should be condemned to a lifetime of hiding behind a bushel!
I finished a laser hair removal course last yeah and it's the best thing I ever did. It worked well on me (I kept the middle bit though so not completely gone!) and I never have to think about it ever again <bliss>
Are you being unreasonable about what?
<< Drops sausage sandwich and goes in search of coffee >>
I shave I don't have it all off but it is quicker do it every few days in the bath I use the Gillette blue lady razors I have never had any itching or ingrown hairs I exfolliate (sp) even in the intimate areas
Totally agree with Malcolm - must be totally naive as I never knew this sort of thing went on, certainly it's not spoken of in my circle ! - was at an outdoor swimming pool yesterday and I must admit at looking quite closely at ladies in skimpy cut bikinis .
Also, Mumsnet threads are always filled with competitive busyness so who on earth has time for this faffing around?
Oh and if you get little red bumps after just slather sudocream on it.
yes sudocreme is your friend oh who said that these threads throw up TMI now you all know i smell of bum cream
Wax, but find the right waxer. Mine's been at it for decades, does the job in less than 10 minutes and it hardly hurts. Less experienced people have taken half an hour and it's been agony!
Love how the OP can say "I realise it is not to everyone's taste, but I have decided that I would like to remove most of my pubic hair. I've read several threads in the subject, and I realise how controversial it is, but it's what I want to do."
And some people still have to come on and have a dig.
Never heard of the Lycon wax, OP when are you getting it done and will you update? I want to know what it's like.
the thought of waxing makes me a bit queasy TBH i got my legs done once i almost passed out <drama queen emoction>
Oh - whatever you do, DO NOT EPILATE.
whatever you do, DO NOT EPILATE.
Go to a salon for a wax, but! Do some prep beforehand and make sure they do not "double-dip" the little lollipop sticks they use to apply the wax. I'm sure the chances of catching something gross are fairly slim, but there has been a documented rise of something molluscum (which sounds utterly gross) associated with salons that do not use one stick per application.
When I first had a wax, I went to a salon in Singapore whose strapline is about never double-dipping, and when I came back to the UK the woman in the salon was just using the same stick! Ugh. So now I check them out beforehand, and won't go to one that puts the same stick back in the same pot. If you're in London, you can try the Ministry of Waxing on Floral Street in Covent Garden - they are not cheap, but they are very, very good. All they do is waxing, so they've got a lot of experience.
This article has some sensible suggestions:"
I shave mine off. Once every two days I do a quick run over with the razor and regular shaving cream. Takes me about 5 minutes to shave legs, pubes and underarms in the shower because it's just maintenance once it's been done the first time. Easy (and cheap!).
I'm just shuddering at how you wind up in the hospital as a result of a wax job.
How does this happen? Was it - a burn? Ouch.
I'm not having a dig- I just think it's such a shame that women feel they have to go through this- that they think that their adult woman's bodies are somehow not good enough.
Curlew, I agree - my baseline starting point for these kinds of decisions is that mother nature knows best.
But there is no possible way I would even consider going in a bathing suit with a hairy bikini line. Or hairy armpits. The campaign against women's body hair has been successful, at least in my mind.
OP has never said her body isn't good enough. She states she is aware it is a controversial topic to some and has decide this is what she wants to do. She asked for advice on how to do it. Being called silly and mad and told she'll look like a child or a plucked chicken is just femanazism at it's worst. A grown woman has made a decision about her own body, let's all deal with it.
Body Shop walnut scrub is great for keeping smooth after hair removal. Came back to add that and got sidetracked.
There has been no campaign against women's body hair! It's been something that has been happening for thousands of years. Sugaring is ancient Egyptian. Threading is ancient Indian.
In ancient Egypt hair was removed to prevent lice and you may have noticed that Ancient Greek art shows figures of men and women without pubic or armpit hair.
Most and many men also shave their beards and sideburns and don't keep long hair. Is this also done for them to retain a child's facial features?
I think it's ridiculous that a simple choice of removing or keeping body hair turns into a fight against women. Women are intelligent enough to make their own decisions. No one is being conditioned.
Lots of places will offer to permanently remove hair from your nether nooks and crannies by using laser treatment. Including, it transpires, my beauty therapist, who informed me of this fact while running her laser gun over my (facial) upper lip.
Apparently, the marvellous thing about these laser guns is the way they clean themselves. Mmmmm.
It tickled me that the link to this thread was:
To ask advice on drastic pubic hair removal- how do you do it? (69)
I know that it was childish and that I've ruined it now. Sorry.
I ought to add that my laser lady does sterilise her laser guns carefully. Which is just as well
IMHO Veet is the easiest way to remove it all.
Only takes 10 mins, can be used on all my bits without irritation, can be done without making an appointment and best of all I don't have to bare my fanjo to anyone.
Hair does grow back quicker than waxing, but I am a pain fearing wimp.
You could try using Veet at first and see if you like the bare look or not. But you really cant use the Veet to get into those nooks and cranny's so you will have to shave them. Then if you like the feel of it, think of having it waxed.
Just a word of warning though - I don't know if they have changed the ingredients in Veet, but all of the varieties I have tried just don't work as well as they used to. It could be that, or I did find that after veeting for a while (few years) the hair has definitely grown out thicker and coarser (so it could be that the veet is the same, just cant handle my forest as well ).
I wax now (Hollywood) and would never consider shaving or Veeting again. You need to ask around, and if the waxing salon says they do Hollywood or Brazilians with strip wax THEN DONT GO THERE. You only want a place using hot wax - NO STRIPS! Strip wax is too harsh for the area and can end up with bruising.
Curlew, why do you think there is pressure for women to have to have it done. There is no pressure that I know of, its my body and I like it so I do it. The fact that my dh likes it too is just another benefit but I do it for me. Each to their own, if you don't like it, don't do it. Am wondering why you posted on the thread though if you are so anti.
Epilate most then razor for the more delicate areas.
You ladies who have lasered, did you do the full area that OP is suggesting? Do they laser the underneath and crevice of doom?
Saider, I've learnt a new word Femanazism wow every days a school day
Does lasering hurt? And what Zola said, do they do a thorough job?
I'd get yourself to a waxing salon and ask for the hot wax, go elsewhere if they don't do it. I've done it myself at home a few times but it's not been worth the sticking-together incidents, blood blisters and patchy results. Shaving gives me a rash and horrid, itchy regrowth. If waxing give yourself 2 days before a grand reveal just in case of soreness or redness
Lasering doesn't hurt that much (it's absolutely nothing compared to waxing). It takes about 1 or 2 minutes per session. They do a little blip on your skin for about 1 or 2 seconds, and there can be a searing bit of pain at the very end.
All in all, it's really manageable.
I can't vouch for how thorough it is because I'm only half way through my course.
That wasn't very clear.
The total session takes about 2 minutes. This is comprised of about 30 laser blips on your bits, each of which is maybe 2 seconds. The very tail end of each blip can be painful, but not all of the blips are painful.
Crowler is that 2 minutes to do the entire area, Hollywood wax style?
No, not hollywood - that would probably be more like 4/5 I'd guess and probably more like 80 blips.
I've just looked up lasering and 1st result is £450 for 4 sessions for a Brazilian. I'm paying £42 a pop for waxing, probably every 8-10 weeks. Hmmm, interesting
Wow snoot 42 pounds...
Is that normal price of Brazilian in UK or do you go to quite an exclusive salon?
Groupon! Use Groupon!
I paid (I think) 120 for 5 sessions? London.
How much is laser removal?? [curious]
I have pale skin and dark hair, shave my legs and it's just pointless as you can see the stubble in my legs waiting to sprout!
Am tempted by waxing (legs and other areas) but am such a wuss.
When I was young (longer ago than I like to think about) this kind o f hair removal, if contemplated (which it never was) would have struck us all as very extreme, likely to be painful and certainly not worth bothering with.
I can't see the change which has happened over the last few years in this respect as a positive development, I'm afraid. Perhaps we'll have corsets back next. After all, female waistlines left to their own devices are so ugly, aren't they? It'll be our "free choice", after all.
Hmm, groupon eh? I'll have a look, thanks for the tip
I think £42 is fairly normal, hope so anyway! That is for a Hollywood, think the Brazilian is a couple of pounds less. The hot wax is more expensive than the other sort as well. This is a smart high street salon probably near enough to London to be expensive but not close enough to have much competition.
Be careful with shaving. I had to deal with a patient once who had an appalling genital abscess from an infected nick/hair follicle. Her Bartholins Glands became blocked too. She was completely unaware of any injury/nick but you are meant to have hair there and so its removal plus any injury/point of entry to infection means double the chances of problems. Have it done professionally for a while and do not shave.
I wont grumble about my 11 pounds for Hollywood and eyebrow wax again...
I am assuming you are a medic, mignonette. My mother is a GP and has mentioned seeing infections as a result of shaving, waxing and other forms of hair removal down below.
Can of aerosol and a lighter works best.
I am a RNMH and once worked in a GU clinic doing bank shifts. That is where I encountered the monster abscess. your Mum must have seen some corkers too Karlos
Cu am in fits of laughter at your comment. Nearest thing to once setting my fringe on fire after leaning over a bunsen burner...
I tried the 'salon' wax but they made me keep my pants on so no hope of hair free bum for me! Quite possibly went to the wrong place.....
Thank you all for your advice. I decided to shave the sides, left a wideish landing strip, and used Veet on the underneath bits and around bottom.
I was a bit worried about the Veet straying into very sensitive areas, so I was extremely careful.
I'm very happy with it. I have no itching so far, but I guess it's too soon to comment on regrowth......
Wow, £11 for eyebrow and Hollywood? Where on earth are you? I paid £6 for a cheapy eyebrow thread and she cut my under-brow area, I think the thread broke? It's been a week and I've still got a scab. Not impressed.
Those of you that laser...is it really that effective? That you literally never have to wax/shave etc again?! Amazing!
Do they do the underneath?
I made the mistake recently of using Veet inbetween waxing appointments, it itched like crazy when it was growing back.
I am going to investigate laser I think. I had a swollen Bartholin's gland at one point, never thought it could have been due to waxing...
I had laser just on the tops of my legs, so it was a very undramatic bikini line treatment. Yes, fabulously effective, absolute dripping with sweat agony level. Am definitely in the market for something more like a Brazilian but scared of the humiliation.
Karlos I agree with you why do women put themselves through all this and surely its not for men. I always believed that you didn't look at the mantlepiece when poking the fire
I don't think anyone has said they do it for men...it's a personal thing.
I hate that 'mantlepiece/fire poking' saying though
Zola was it really painful?!?!
snoot I'm in Johannesburg. Its the going rate here....
The mantelpiece analogy is horrid also is "fire-poking" all you are getting up to?!? Surely your imagination could take a guess at another pass time that might be improved by depilation?
lollylaughs I'll certainly bear that in mind if I ever get to South Africa! If you ever come to the London commuter belt I'd get yourself tidied up first
Oh snoot you will have to enlighten me there must be a whole world of things I know nothing about, and that ripping out my pubic hair by the roots wii make my life 100% better
Yes, it was EXTREMELY painful. A friend of mine went to the same place and also found it agony, but then she went to another clinic (still laser, not IPL) and said it was much less painful. Maybe it was something to do with the equipment or settings.
So do you need stubble in order to laser? I did look into it before and was put off by it not working so well on blond hair, maybe that's better now?
Yep. You need to shave the night before because the darkness of the hair conducts the light of the laser down to the follicle.
Lol at the imagined results on my fufu! I've got brown hair up-top and white-blond hair underneath, obviously there's graduation at some point, I'm not a badger! I'd look like I'd got quite a jazzy Mohican effect going on
i still don't understand how the outer labia get waxed, shaved or veeted without sever pain/tugging. I know everyone is different down below, but how can veet or a razor be used on the outer bits, without the cream getting near sensitive bits.
Fakebook if thats the case then could you please explain why people felt the need to wear merkins then.
Weren't merkins used to conceal functional baldness to combat crabs? Often by prostitutes? Also to conceal signs of STDs if I remember correctly. Not sure they were particularly there to be attractive per se but rather to conceal and to normalise.
Some wore them and some didn't Darkesteyes
I don't think my mum has ever seen anything quite as hideous as you describe, mignonette, but enough to cause her to advise me to leave well alone down there (not that I needed the advice).
but you ladies keep right on going. Risking infection to conform to ludicrous porn-based expectations of female appearance is terribly liberated of you, after al.
Used to shave with a regular razor until I almost took a chunk out of my labia in an absent-minded moment (sort of cut a wedge into it). Bled like crazy and almost made me faint because I thought I'd cut a piece off.
Now I use those electric shavers made for the purpose, with a safe guard in place. They work wonderfully! I did find it itchy and a bit ingrown the very first couple times I did it, but been doing it for years now and never a problem any more, just like shaving legs/underarms.
Those talking about lasering - I had about 8 sessions (sides and top of bikini line but not right on the, er, middle) and you can have the whole lot off if you want to. I considered this but this just imagined I might look a bit scary down there when I'm 70 so I went for everything but one small bit in the middle.
Mine is practically completely gone. I say practically as every couple of months I might have literally 2 or 3 hairs, but they are little soft ones and not pubey like <tmi>
Pain, for me, it was quite painful but I still don't think as bad as waxing. And whoever it was who was talking about the blips, yes i agree, it's like little sharp stings one after the other. I said to my therapist to do 3, then stop for a few seconds and repeat as I found that more bearable!
I would recommend researching the right place to go too as there are so many different places/lasers. I went to a clinic that was specifically hair removal/tattoo removal etc, not a beauty salon. Although they may be just as good, it's a lot of money to pay if it doesn't work.
I feel like I've fallen down the rabbit hole all that money spent!
Mad question. ... I have pale skin, dark hair, very, very quick to restubble up.
I have found epilating my underarms to be revolutionary, no more 5 o'clock stubble, or those annoying dark patches where you can see it ready to sprout back in the slightest cold draft. .. should I really, really not consider epilation for my nether parts? Is it really that bad?
The problem I had with epilation was skin I hadn't adequately stretched becoming ensnared in the twirling mechanism . It also takes much longer than waxing and so is more painful. I regularly epilate my legs and sometimes, in extremis, the pant-moustache area if I have to swim and have no time for a waxing appointment. My epilator is however about 10 years old and I'm sure they're better now. I've also only epilated my underarms once which led to the skin getting stuck in the mechanism so you're obviously much better at it than me!
I think perhaps it's the laser that hurts and IPL does not (I had IPL).
I have a homedics me - and after a year I have minimal regrowth underarms legs bikini line - had a lot of hair underarms before. I use epilator every couple of weeks and then laser, very quick as hardly any growth after 2 weeks. Haven't dealt with down there yet but do plan to - but think will get first waxing done professionally don't fancy epilator at home on it. Alternatively laser can be done after shaving. And also with epilator alone got loads ingrown hairs but don't with homedics....
"but you ladies keep right on going. Risking infection to conform to ludicrous porn-based expectations of female appearance is terribly liberated of you, after al."
Thanks, you just keep on fighting the good fight, conforming to the feminist stereotype that if it's not your opinion it's the wrong one and women are so fucking stupid that if they don't tow the party line it's because they're too thick to make their own minds up. Girl fucking power.
Well said Saidar, what is the term, feminazi or similar? I chose to take control of my feminity and I shan't be told what to do by man or woman!
"I shan't be told what to do by man or woman!" HUZZAH!
We are people at the end of the day. Yes we are condition by society, for society to exist to some extent we must be conditioned. I like being naked but I didn't go to work in the nuddy this morning. I just hate the idea that we're all so thick that we can't be aware of the social conditioning and decide as adults to do it anyway.
FWIW I look sod all like a porn star, I'm the main wage earner in our house, my DP is a SAHP who does the lion's share of the housework. Screw gender norms or labels, we do what makes us happy as people. Feminism helped me get here, and I am grateful for all the sacrifice that got me here, but leave my bush out of it.
"but you ladies keep right on going. Risking infection to conform to ludicrous porn-based expectations of female appearance is terribly liberated of you, after al."
I shave down there. Same as I shave my armpit hair and my leg hair. I've been doing it for years. Started shaving before I had a serious boyfriend, before I'd seen porn, etc. I just prefer not to be hairy. That's my personal preference and hasn't been influenced by anyone but myself.
My body is a woman's body. I have stretch marks, a jelly post pregnancy belly (8 years after the event), and a childbirth damaged nether region. I definitely do not look like a child or a porn star, nor would I want to.
I think some of the po faced, judgy posters on here have been incredibly rude. The OP specifically stated that she didn't want a debate or judgement.
Yay! Lets stop ignoring them and answer back, we're empowered women are we not?
I was iffy about total hair removal having been raised by feminists to believe it was somehow paedophilic. Utter balls! I have two children and my body bears the battle scars. I prefer to be smooth down under, it's easier to dress and feels better to me. It's really not any one else's business but I am certainly not ashamed. Feminism is about having the right to make choices, not being dictated to and meeting other people's expectations strong woman face
Easier to dress, the mind boggles I've never heard that people can't get their clothes on because of a hairy minge, you can always tuck it in your socks
"you can always tuck it in your socks"
If that's what's comfortable for you then do it, I'll go to the barrier for your right to do it.
Do people not swim? Or wear fancy underwear? Or are pant moustaches de rigueur in some parts?
Sorry, sinking to their level, but really!
No one has ever gone running screaming at the sight of a stray hair! its all natural and there for a reason.
"Thanks, you just keep on fighting the good fight, conforming to the feminist stereotype that if it's not your opinion it's the wrong one and women are so fucking stupid that if they don't tow the party line it's because they're too thick to make their own minds up. Girl fucking power."
You're free to do what you like. I'm free to form an opinion. Sorry if you don't like it, but if you're comfortable with the notion that women ought to be free to rip their pubes out by the roots, but not comfortable with the notion of others having an opinion about it, then the one with the problem, with the greatest possible respect, is you.
Oh and btw ... easier to dress?
Yes, I've often noticed those pesky pubes getting in the way when I try and zip my jeans up.
Are you people quite mad?
I currently have no sex drive (pregnancy hormones), not had sex for months, no man will see my bush for months to come (don't give a crap what the MW thinks), however I am removing all my pubes as I hate the feel when they get hot and sweaty. not conforming to any norms here, I just feel much better with no hair.
Anyone had this - I used to shave, never an ingrown hair to be seen. decided to try waxing, bloody loads of ingrowns. Not waxed for a year now, try and leave it as long as possible between shaves but am still getting ingrown hairs. Have broken my pube follicles! Anyone suggest where I should go next to avoid ingrowns.....?
But these threads always turn into a debate, because those who disagree with women choosing to remove their body hair can't seem to just shrug and say "each to their own, the thread's not relevant to me so I won't post on it."
Put simply, it is nicer to lick something smooth than something hairy. I may not speak for everyone, but DH certainly agrees, so it serves me quite well to keep things smooth. (And before anyone else queries this - if your partner only licks the bits that are naturally hairless, you are being short changed.)
Anyway, I normally shave. I have been trying veet recently, but find it has to be on for the full 10 min and doesn't do a great job, it leaves me stubbly so I then have to shave anyway. I used to go for regular waxing and would do that again but can't really afford it at the moment, so shaving it is.
" not conforming to any norms here"
I note how insistent the pube removal brigade always is that their choices are not due to any outside influences. Leaving aside the obvious point that such insistence tends to suggest the reverse, perhaps that's true. I can't help but think that left to yourself, genuinely not subject to outside influences, the removal of all your pubic hair would be unlikely to strike you as a priority.
Having lived in a tropical country, I can confirm that dealing with pubes on at least some level, even if just trimming, is miles more comfortable. If I were a nun, I'd choose to do at least something with it. So yes, there is an external factor in my decision, which is how comfortable I am.
So how do you tell op to deal with exfoliating when she's talking abut inbetween buttocks. how?
My OH does mine....he prefers it hairless, I can't be arsed, so he does it....and very nice job he does too !
fuckwittery have you tried full-on exfoliation? It's not going to work well with the shaving, I'd imagine, you may need to let things grow out a bit to avoid rashes. I use apricot scrub, is it St Ives? It's been around forever, in combination with a rough towel. Not for bikini but for annoying red upper arm spots. A bit of umph will help the hairs find their way through again
Book a LYCON wax, they are amazing.
I get rid of the lot! I love it! Wax the bastards -usually chickens out and shaves-
I note how insistent the pube removal brigade always is that their choices are not due to any outside influences. Leaving aside the obvious point that such insistence tends to suggest the reverse
Ah-ha! I can't win! I protest too much! Brilliant argument!
Actually, I'm not part of any brigade, I just hate sweaty clammy itchy pubes.
I can't help but think that left to yourself, genuinely not subject to outside influences, the removal of all your pubic hair would be unlikely to strike you as a priority
Maybe if I'd lived in a cave 50,000 years ago yes, it might not have occurred to me to sharpen my flints, however I have tried it, promoted as it is by the beauty industry and social norms and it feels better. Why are you so insistent that this choice is not my own? I don't often straighten my hair as I CBA and it doesn't make me feel better, even though it's frizzy and on public view, but removing my pubes does improve my general comfort.
This is v interesting thread. I don't have much ( nearly zero) body hair - never have done. Arms have none, armpits get shaved once a month if that, legs get the Christmas shave and the summer shave .. And the bikini area is perfectly formed lightly dusted and I've only ever had to take scissors and trim a few strays or longuns.
Lol this is not a stealth boast btw... Just explaining why I am so grateful to read this as have 16yo with the Forest of Arden or MJ's Afro circa ABC protruding from her pants and of such a coarse and bushy nature that in a bikini ( and she can only just stuff it in the short shorts style) it looks like she's concealing man bits ( iykwim).
We'd not want to go for the full monty but a bit of topiary to tame it back so its not spilling out of her knickers and will now look at some sort of lasering for the sides/ bottom and just trimming the rest so it's not so protruding. Or could they sort of wax that but I'd be worried for her about the itchy regrowh thing...
Anyone done this. Certainly not looking for Brazilian or anything Hollywood just neater pubes for my lovely DD.
"but not comfortable with the notion of others having an opinion about it,"
I said earlier, any woman should be able to have her pubes however she wants. I have no problem with your option, I have problems with personal attacks against posters for expressing theirs.
"I note how insistent the pube removal brigade always is that their choices are not due to any outside influences"
I think you'll find I didn't insist that at all and noted how there was without social conditioning with regards to body hair. I simply asked why the "pube removal brigade" was considered so stupid that we can't be aware of the conditioning and decide to do it anyway without being called stupid or someone insisting we must have mental health issues.
*opinion not option
*without a doubt
OP here! In my case this has nothing to do with being more appealing to a partner. I'm single, recently disentangled myself from a very difficult 10 year relationship. I'm intending to stay single for some time (or for ever if noone comes along).
I wanted to do this for myself. My pubic hair was practically wild, I fancied removing most of it. I'm happy with the result, although its looking a bit stubbly!! For me it feels more comfortable and cooler, and I wore a bikini at the weekend without worrying about my pubes escaping all over the place.
OhMerGerd My daughter is hairier than me as well, due to me marrying a brunette. She's only 12 but I noticed she was wearing skin coloured tights under her shorts and (finally!) cottoned on to it being about leg hair. Obviously this was a sensitive matter to broach and I didn't want her to start shaving. I got her some silky mitts from Boots, they're fantastic for keeping the mass of hair down and she's happily trotting around in shorts now . Re the pubes, would you consider veet hair removal cream? I know it's horrible chemicals but less painful than waxing with slower appearing, softer, less stubbly regrowth. A trim all over and then veet around the edges should get her good to go with minimal fuss.
shave down there. Same as I shave my armpit hair and my leg hair. I've been doing it for years. Started shaving before I had a serious boyfriend, before I'd seen porn, etc. I just prefer not to be hairy. That's my personal preference and hasn't been influenced by anyone but myself.
well said I have been shaving legs armpits since the mid80s when i was a teenager I didnt know what porn was or a boyfriend for that matter I just didnt like armpit hair women are allowed to have a preference to their OWN hair without it being about sex and men
OP if you've got quick growing stubble you're fighting a losing battle! Put some hair removal cream on the bits you've shaved, should last much longer and come through less obviously x
My dear late Grandma used silkymits on her face! We always knew as it gave her the worst rash ever it looked like she'd been dragged behind a speeding car
I'm always fairly sure when reading these threads that the 'leave everything alone' brigade can't actually be that hairy.
I've just plucked (haha) up the courage to book my first wax. I have tried various home methods over the years but everything grows back so quickly it is horrid.
I'm only having a normal bikini wax, but I just want to be able to wear shorts on holiday and go for a swim three days in a row without giving myself horrid shaving rash.
The salon I am going to use Lycon which seems to be a good thing based on reading this thread.
What I would really love is laser removal on legs, bikini and underarms. And electrolysis on my face to deal with the chin hairs!
Oh I AM hairy when I'm naked I look like I'm sat on someones shoulders! But the thought of removing it seems crazy to me, saying its cleaner why don't you wash? It's like saying why don't you shave your head because its summer and your a bit sweaty.
Alibabaa good luck with the wax! It's worth taking a couple of painkillers an hour before your appointment if you're happy to do so, no harm in being prepared . I always wonder how fervent hairies justify men shaving their chins but perhaps they don't believe in that either?
I know what you mean about the shaving, the rash is always still there when the stubble sets in if I try
I can't see how you compare a man shaving his face to pubic hair but then perhaps you know some funny looking fellas.
Facial hair in men is a sign of sexual maturity. It is routinely removed for reasons ranging from comfort to hygiene to aesthetics to whatever pleases the owner of the chin. It is not considered paedophilic to fancy a clean shaven man. No, no similarities at all.
Thank you for that knowledge is never wasted.
How do people get rid of really bad ingrowns? I have the mother of all bastards under one arm - can't squeeze it due to the location (inaccessible).
Am saving for laser but really need to get shot of this bloody ingrown - it's a huge red lump but exfoliation hasn't made any difference. Nor has mag sulph.
I think you need a good friend, possibly wielding a sterilised needle. Whereabouts are you? Maybe someone on here could lend a hand! My DH has helped me out in the past, I think it's the only way forward.
I'll have to tell DH to step up!
I've always wanted to ask some questions about this but never been brave enough but since everyone else is here goes......
I have a very hairy bum (between cheeks outer part is peachy smooth) is it really common for them to wax between your bum crack? I.e I do t actually have to ask them to do this they would just go ahead I booked a Hollywood?
How common is it to have a hairy bum? They won't all gag when they see me?
I'm also pretty hairy underneath, so this will mean lying with my legs in a "smear test" position will it not?
Do people really show the woman as much as they show their husbands?
I'm getting fed up trying to shave and not getting the right results so need to find out all the details before I decide if I'm brave enough or not
Blue, I am proud to say I have a hairy arse crack! No one will gag or judge. Body hair is normal and the professionals see it day in day out.
You move in various positions and if you don't want to show the full lot I've never known a good beautician who wasn't happy for me to leave my knickers on and just move them aside to let her get to where she needed to be.
FWIW the arse crack for me is painless.
If you get a good waxer they will do everything whilst carrying on a conversation about where you're going on holiday . I tend to ask if they'd prefer commando or knickers, I'd go with their paper ones personally to avoid wax on your own. For the crack they ask you to hook your arms under your knees and pull them towards your chest. It's not the most dignified position but they all have it done themselves, they understand the position you're in
I prefer commando as I've stopped caring but I did go with knickers for the first few years. My waxer this time carried on a conversation about how envious she was of my sparse regrowth and she couldn't wait for her's to be the same. It's really not at all bad once you get used to it.
Arms hooked under knees? I had a Brazilian once where I had to lie on my front and hold my buttocks apart with my hands.
Ghastly however you're doing it.
Bluemonkey if you're shy/worried I can highly recommend seeking out an Asian beauticians, they completely understand the body hair issue and won't be at all shocked at any area you show them with a good covering of fur. They'll still have all the usual 'Hollywood' and 'Brazilian' options, but won't have that slightly disturbed look in their eye that some young fair beauticians do when you present your very own National Trust Forest to them!
You can save the education for when you're a bit more confident
I must say that as a blond I probably can't understand the issues of my more hirsute sisters. We're all the same though when you've pulled your knees to your chest for an unknown 20 year old to examine your anus
Zola I'm intrigued by your waxer's technique! Is this in SA? Don't think I'd care either way but was it more effective? I don't have a whole lot going on round there, maybe it's more effective if there's more hair?
Wouldn't it just be easier to embrace what nature gave you? It must be so painful
No, UK! I only went to that salon once, I've had one Brazilian and one Hollywood. I don't recall doing the face-down-cheek-part manouevre for the Hollywood.
I would need some serious therapy to learn to love what nature gave me!
It's all shades of spectrum isn't it? I might be ok to embrace some curly whisps of arse/pubic hair, but as it is I just can't accept the jungle nature has bestowed on various parts of my body. I think it's at the extreme end of normal and I don't like it for various reasons - some hygenic (dingleberrys are attractive on no-one never mind periods) and some social.
Sorry, but I don't have the confidence/inclination to be a moustached, pubic thigh-covered front runner a movement to accept being as nature intended when I have the option of ripping the suckers out by the root and feeling confident and happy about facing the world.
You'd be surprised Sonly, a good waxer can make the whole process rather painless.
I could embrace nature and sometimes I do, I have hobbit feet and really don't care . I never wear silky socks and I live in Dr Martins so I just don't bother to groom my feet in the same way. Some times nature's natural way suits me, some times it doesn't.
Is it an age thing because NON of my friends own up to this oddness.
Only one of my RL friends owns up to getting her bikini line waxed, and even she doesn't have arse fur.
I think age is a big factor. I chatted with a nurse about it once, and she said when they come in for their smears you get less hair the younger they are. I'm thirties and keep a well trimmed smattering up front so fit into her theory.
I couldn't tell you. I'm nearly 30 if that helps. I know of one friend who does this as she recommended someone to me when I mentioned I needed a beautician, but of my other friends I couldn't tell you who does and who doesn't. Friend who recommended is 53.
So the older you are the bushier you are, I must be 125.
sonly it's cheaper and quicker than a facelift only slightly less painful though
It's only a general rule, but pubes definitely have fashions. You were meant to have a ridiculous poker straight thin strip when I was 18/21ish. Then we had vajazzales and the world became unknown to me so I stopped caring.
I remember reading as a teenager (I'm 36) that a straight landing strip would make you look thinner! It was absolutely unheard of when I was at school to remove all hair, known as a "shaven haven" and the preserve of porn stars and prossies. I think it's much more normal now, especially among those younger than I. I read an interview in mid-2000s with Gwyneth Paltrow saying she'd had a Brazilian and it had changed her life, I was intrigued! I must say it has changed my life entirely for the better in that small sphere so, thank you Gwyneth!
Gwyneth said recently that she is rocking a 70s afro at the moment.
Laser hair removal, without a doubt. I shaved for years but couldn't stand the regrowth and little spots etc, so tried a wax, only to discover I'm allergic to it. (You can't imagine what my armpits looked like after that, or the pain). Anyway last month I finished my laser treatments and I'm over the moon with the results, my best investment in years.
Snoot... This just goes to prove ...' You don't know what you don't know'. Just googled silky mitts ..I'd never heard of them before. Not sure if they do pubic versions as all this rubbing in circular motions one way and then the other might be a bit much down there! but definitely going to get for her legs ... Thankyou
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