To pack in my uni course?? [hmm]

(64 Posts)
HongkongDreamer Wed 03-Jul-13 13:20:26

Im about to go into my 3rd year at uni out of a 4 year course that ive felt up and down about through out. I cant see me being able to stick it out another 2 years even though it will give me loads of opportunities at the end. At the end of the 4 years i'll just end up with a degree that i have no interest in making a career out of. However i do know what i want to do instead but the uni application deadline for this year has already passed which means i wouldnt start another degree course till aug 2014, which would be the last year of this course. I know i should really just stick out the 2 years and complete it then do a post grad in the area i want to work but i absolutely hate the course im doing just now.

kelda Wed 03-Jul-13 13:21:43

Is it possible for you to use some of the credits you ahve gained and swap over onto the other course? Have you spoken to your tutor about it?

ilovechips Wed 03-Jul-13 13:23:49

If this course opens doors in lots of areas, and you can study what you like post-grad, and you're pretty much stuck for another year anyway, I think I would stick at it to be honest. Difficult to say without knowing what the course is though...

HongkongDreamer Wed 03-Jul-13 13:23:58

yeah asked to leave next year with an degree instead of the year after with an honours degree. I cant swap them over:/ which means the 2 years ive done so far will count for nothing really

SirBoobAlot Wed 03-Jul-13 13:26:49

Stick it out. It will be worth it in the long run, even if you don't use the degree itself, like you say it will open doors. And these could include post-grad study to what you really want to do.

EduCated Wed 03-Jul-13 13:27:02

It might not be too late for a course starting this Sept. The last few years have been trickier for recruitment than universities have been letting on and lots will have empty places come September. Can you still register for clearing on UCAS? Also phone a few universities with the course you want to do and ask about the likelihood of places and the possibility of transferring credit over.

NatashaBee Wed 03-Jul-13 13:28:03

Before doing anything, i'd check if you would be able to get another student loan if you drop out of this course. My sister has had some difficulties with that.

HongkongDreamer Wed 03-Jul-13 14:08:56

i get a bursary just now so i dont know how it would work.

HongkongDreamer Wed 03-Jul-13 14:15:04

and its nursing im doing just now

NotALondoner Wed 03-Jul-13 14:21:19

What do you want to do? Why is your course 4 years? Is it dual registration?

kelda Wed 03-Jul-13 14:31:52

So it's not just a matter of writing essays and passing exams, you'll have a lot of placement over the next couple of years. In your final year you will be expected to be capable of doing the job of a nurse (under supervision).

If you don't want to be a nurse, it will be very hard to maintain a show of willing and enthousiam for the placements and of course, for the patients.

Having siad that, I would make sure you have a definite plan before dropping out of the course.

HongkongDreamer Wed 03-Jul-13 14:38:52

Its an honours degree and yeah thats y its so hard to stick with it. Really want to do primary teaching, or just anything thats mon to fri 9 to 5 really

NicknameTaken Wed 03-Jul-13 14:42:42

I think you'll get some primary teachers who'll come along and give a hollow laugh about it being 9-5.

Have you talked to the tutors in the course you'd like to do? As Natasha says, it's possible they have a place left.

Definitely check out the finance situation. If you're getting a NHS bursay, you can't just switch it across to teaching.

corlan Wed 03-Jul-13 14:50:57

Forget about teaching if you want 9 to 5.
Most teachers I know work evenings and one day of the weekend planning and marking as well.

kelda Wed 03-Jul-13 14:58:48

Your more likely to get a 9-5 job or part time job in nursing eg. in outpatients, clinics.

Most of the UK nurses I know are able to have a lot of say in the hours they work, esepcially if they have children.

FaintlyHopeful Wed 03-Jul-13 15:06:41

If you leave with an ordinary degree, you can apply to do primary school teaching as a 1 year postgrad or 2 years distance learning. At least you would end up with the result you want in the same timeframe as your current course will take.

HongkongDreamer Wed 03-Jul-13 15:09:47

Yeah thats wjat I was thibking too, ive emailed my uni again and asked about leaving next year. Just waiting for them to reply now

ilovechips Wed 03-Jul-13 15:12:54

Lol @ 9-5 being readily available in nursing. Even out patients these days are open evenings and some weekends, traditional weekday jobs like community, practice nurse and clinic work just aren't 9-5. I am a nurse in a clinic setting, it used to be more traditional mon-fri hours but now we have to do shifts to cover 8-8 Mon-Fri and 8-1 Saturday. No nights though! (Yet lol)

But to be honest, I don't know anyone who isn't expected to work over and above their hours these days, no matter what the job.

BlackMini Wed 03-Jul-13 15:41:48

If you complete your course you could work in Pharma. 9-5. Good money.

kelda Wed 03-Jul-13 15:45:06

If you want a good job, good money, you will have to work for it in whatever profession you choose.

Both nursing and teaching are stressful jobs. I wouldn't say one is easier or more convenient then the other.

'Really want to do primary teaching, or just anything thats mon to fri 9 to 5 really'

The 'just anything' doesn't really convince me that your heart is set on teaching.

ilovechips Wed 03-Jul-13 15:49:01

Blackmini - agreed, pharmacists are better paid than nurses. But they are entirely different courses - a degree doesn't make you a pharmacist.

ilovechips Wed 03-Jul-13 15:49:48

A nursing degree doesn't make you a pharmacist I meant!

ilovechips Wed 03-Jul-13 15:50:21

And pharmacists work late and weekends too!

HongkongDreamer Wed 03-Jul-13 15:52:46

Ive always thought about teaching and I know that no matter what i'll need to work for it, just want be something that im going to stick with

ilovechips Wed 03-Jul-13 16:00:32

Knowing its nursing I've changed my mind from earlier and think if you know you hate it then leave - to be honest if your heart isn't in it this will eventually be picked up by one of your mentors in clinical practice anyway. The job (like most jobs) is hard enough to keep motivated with when you actually want to do it! I've no experience of teaching but if the main appeal for you is the hours I would suggest that's also not a good reason to choose a profession. Good luck with whatever you decide.

Latara Wed 03-Jul-13 16:02:07

There is no point carrying on with a nursing degree if you hate nursing because clinical practice counts as so much of it.

SalaciousBCrumb Wed 03-Jul-13 16:02:42

ilovechips I think Blackmini means in the pharma industry, not as a pharmacist. Pharmaceutical company trials and so on.

Latara Wed 03-Jul-13 16:03:04

Could you swap to a 3 yr Advanced Dip course?

FaintlyHopeful Wed 03-Jul-13 16:03:18

Does Blackmini mean the pharmaceutical industry? If so, it is good money but you are expected to do evening meetings and conferences that run over weekends. You also need a hide like a rhino.

Latara Wed 03-Jul-13 16:04:08

Sorry missed the part about you wanting a degree.

FutTheShuckUp Wed 03-Jul-13 16:07:04

So you are in your third year and its took until now to realise it isnt a 9-5 job and you don't like it? This annoys me tbh as the majority of nursing courses are funded by the NHS and cost the taxpayer approx 53k to train a student nurse.

ilovechips Wed 03-Jul-13 16:07:39

Ah ok fair enough - I thought you needed some post qualifying experience for that, but will stand corrected, isn't an area I've ever seriously looked into.

HongkongDreamer Wed 03-Jul-13 16:16:44

Its funded by saas, and its paid because of the hours I work. Not getting it for nothing

Itchywoolyjumper Wed 03-Jul-13 16:17:08

Please don't leave nursing. In my experience it takes a while to find your niche but once you do its an amazingly rewarding career.
What's made you feel like this? Have you spoke to your personal teacher? Are they supporting you?
The pre reg years are some of the hardest you'll ever do as a nurse. You've done well to get this far, would it be worth sticking at it, even if its just so that you can pay your way through the teaching course by doing (potentially very lucrative) bank or agency work?

HongkongDreamer Wed 03-Jul-13 16:17:13

No matter what I did at uni it would get funded, live in scotland

ilovechips Wed 03-Jul-13 16:17:15

I'm not suggesting this is you OP - but some people are very attracted to doing a nursing degree because the NHS pays the tuition fees and you get a bursary. However they don't realise it's not like a normal degree - no long holidays for example it's a 46 week a year course - and at least 18 months of the 3 years are spent on the wards doing the most menial jobs going at all hours of the day and night. This generally tends to put people with dubious motives off before the end of the course tbh.

HongkongDreamer Wed 03-Jul-13 16:18:32

I know, I dont know what im going to do. Just know I want to leave the course as soon as I can

FutTheShuckUp Wed 03-Jul-13 16:19:45

It doesn't really matter who funds it ffs what a waste of taxpayers money. I wish people would think about what they actually want to do before starting umpteen different courses and not seeing them through

Eyesunderarock Wed 03-Jul-13 16:24:07

Not another one seeing Primary teaching as a soft default option. <sigh>
By all means quit sfter your third year when you have a degree and can decide what to do with the next step in your life, but FFS don't think of primary teaching as a fallback 9-5. If you haven't coped with nursing, why go into another high-pressure, high-stress job prospect you haven't got a clue about?
Take some time to think and make a better choice.

Itchywoolyjumper Wed 03-Jul-13 16:24:24

Fut have you been on a nursing course? Feeling that you can't do it and being overwhelmed to the point of wanting to leave are really not all that uncommon, even the most dedicated students feel like this sometimes.
What really makes the difference between staying on or leaving is the support offered to you by your peers and the uni.

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Jul-13 16:24:47

I can't believe you haven't figured out it's not a 9-5 job either. Neither is teaching. They work lots of nights for things like parents evening, marking. There are a lot of 9-5 professional jobs, but these two aren't it.

quertas Wed 03-Jul-13 16:29:31

OP take some time, talk to your tutor, and the uni careers service as well. Please dont make the mistake of thinking places on PG teaching courses aren't competitive. With an ordinary degree and no speciality to offer you may struggle to find a place. Not tombe a doomsayer, but this is a key moment for you either way. Be sure of what you want and what your alternatives are.

HongkongDreamer Wed 03-Jul-13 16:30:02

Havent figured out its not 9 to 5? Ive been doing it for 2 years. And its abit different in the type of work.thats involved to teaching, both r stressful but one is something that I want to do and the other is wearing me down. Im 19, sure most of u's r in diffrent jobs now than u were at my age

megsmouse Wed 03-Jul-13 16:31:02

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ilovechips Wed 03-Jul-13 16:35:15

When I was 19 I was working as a support worker on a coronary care ward. I'm now 40 and a senior nurse in a sexual health clinic. So different but not really, same field. I tried leaving healthcare at 23, felt worn down too, but after 3 months working in an accounting office I couldn't wait to get back to it.

If you know it's not for you 100% then leave.

ilovechips Wed 03-Jul-13 16:39:53

(Or should say I was - just left to have a baby but will be back one day lol)

HongkongDreamer Wed 03-Jul-13 16:41:28

Yeah thats true and to whoever said ive wasted taxpayers money is it not better that I work 48 hours a week and juggle that, a job, exams and everything else than sitting living off benefits? Im not saying I want to drop out and do nothing, im saying I want to do something else because its geti.g to much for me

Itchywoolyjumper Wed 03-Jul-13 16:42:31

OP, I think some posters are being a bit harsh. I've been where you are now and if I'd given up nursing at that point I wouldn't be as happy or fulfilled as I am now. I really love nursing grin However, its is horses for courses and if its not for you it could be a long miserable trot til pension time.
I never really took to ward work, I loved the patients but I was worn down by the paperwork and never felt I had enough time to make a difference. Thankfully there's a lot more to nursing than that.
Would it help to think about what kind of thing you want to do and what you really don't want to do and seeing if there is an area of nursing that would suit you.
I got through my wobbly moment because I had some really good support, you'd be more than welcome to PM me if you feel that's the situation you're in.

TheFallenNinja Wed 03-Jul-13 16:44:21

It depends on how well you can answer the interview question "why didn't you complete your degree?"

Eyesunderarock Wed 03-Jul-13 16:47:09

You are 19, lots and lots of time to think and make a better choice.

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 03-Jul-13 16:47:37

When I was 19, I was an undergraduate doing an engineering degree. I'm working as an engineer now at 38. So still in the same field.

But if your heart isn't in it, I think it's better to change now. You are very young and don't think of the year spent as wasted. Only look to the future. That said, many people do not work in the field they studied at university.

Itchywoolyjumper Wed 03-Jul-13 16:49:05

OP, I've just read back through my posts and I think I might be a bit evangelical about nursing blush

scarlettsmummy2 Wed 03-Jul-13 16:50:14

What aspect of it is getting too much for you?

HongkongDreamer Wed 03-Jul-13 16:57:25

The 12 hour shifts, just making me really down lately. Ive never been like that before with it. And working 48 hours a week as well as everything else

twinklyfingers Wed 03-Jul-13 17:00:17

HongKong I did a law degree prior to my post grad primary. I too figured out law was not for me half way through, but I decided that I had already put in such a lot of work that I would stick out my degree. It was the right choice for me.

Over my final two years of the law degree I volunteered at a school and got a part time job as a playground assistant. I appreciate this may be very difficult whilst juggling a nursing degree but experience in at least one school setting is essential for entry into post grad primary.

Also, I'm sure you didn't mean to sound flippant about wanting anything 9-5, but I will warn you teaching, and the post grad in particular, are very far from 9-5. Think up until 2am doing huge amounts of paperwork, followed by a 6am start to get into placement for 7:30am, to be all prepared when the class teacher arrives at 8am. And you'll often be in school well after 5pm.

Finally, my sister wanted to be a nurse all her life and worked in care homes etc from 15 years old. She had a terrible time on the nursing degree and found all the essay writing very hard. She excelled when on placement though. I'm sure it crossed her mind to leave as the essay writing got her down so much. She stuck with it and is now an excellent nurse in a busy hands on department. It's certainly not 9-5 but she has good holiday entitlement and truly loves her job. Make sure you access any support you need, esp. if there's something in particular you're struggling with.

If your determined to move on I suggest speaking with the careers advice service at your uni, they helped me a lot when getting into the post grad primary. Good luck.

BlackMini Wed 03-Jul-13 23:55:53

Sorry for the late response, I meant the pharmaceutical industry. There are nurse advisor jobs. An evening meeting or so a month and about 3 conferences a year. Not too bad.

Olyphin Thu 04-Jul-13 03:06:43

Being totally honest here, I did nursing but did not undertake placement until the end of second year. Discovered then that I hated (bedside) nursing. Was told by parents to continue onwards and finish "because it was only two more years and it would look terrible if I didn't finish"

I have been working as a nurse nearly 2 years now and guess what? I still hate it. And let me tell you, it's damn hard to put up with a job like this if you already don't like it much to begin with. You have to be there 100% for your patients, this is a job which demands your full attention all the time and your patients wants and safety NEED to come first. Your coworkers will either be wonderful or completely useless depending on the ward culture. As a graduate nurse you get all the unwanted shifts and crap allocations so you're going to miss birthdays, Xmas, friends gatherings etc and get the most difficult, heavy patients. It is heavy work- literally. If you work with adults in an aged ward/neuro/medical you are going to go home with a backache all the time. I don't get this "no lift" policy they like to tout to students- because you WILL be lifting and pushing and moving people who may be actually twice your body weight a lot of the time. You will see people suffer in horrible ways and be unable to do much to help them. Conversely, you will sometimes see the best in people and your coworkers. But you have to put up with a lot of shit in this job (both literally and metaphorically) and unless it's genuinely your passion and vocation I would not do it.

Some people are suited for nursing and absolutely adore the job, and I think that's great and God bless them. But I'm burnt out already and I'm only in my mid twenties and am now retraining to get out. I wish I hadn't wasted 6 years of my life on this.

raisah Thu 04-Jul-13 05:12:23

As far as I know you need a good honours degree to do a post grad certainly in my field. Check out the financial implications regarding your bursary if you leave the course early.

McGeeDiNozzo Thu 04-Jul-13 05:33:07

If you won't be able to do the postgrad if you quit, stick with it.

Teaching is not a good option if you want something 9-5. The only free time you get as a teacher is when you sleep, and that includes a large chunk of the 'holidays'.

maddening Thu 04-Jul-13 05:42:48

what about nurses in a gp surgery or doing the hv course as hv. Is generally 9-5?

MammaTJ Thu 04-Jul-13 05:53:25

This is why the one year experience in care work the government are talking about bringing in is such a good idea. I start my nursing degree in September and am fairly sure that none of the actual placements or shifts will put me off, having worked in care since I was 17. I am now 45.

ilovechips Thu 04-Jul-13 07:28:34

Maddening - not many GP surgeries are only open 9-5 these days, but Practice Nursing is very competitive, precisely because of the no weekends/nights appeal. They tend to be part time/job share in lots of places too. I have never heard of a newly qualified nurse getting a practice nurse job, although I'm sure it must happen in some places. Health Visiting is a further 12/18 months at uni, and they will also require some post graduate experience before you start the course. I'm not trying to be a prophet of doom here but really although there are a few 9-5 jobs in nursing they really are very rare these days, as even the traditional ones now have to cover extended hours.

OneLittleToddleTerror Thu 04-Jul-13 09:34:53

What Olyphin says about loving the job you do applies to most fields. (Maybe except things like supermarket shelf stacking. No one can love that right)? As a software engineer, I have to get up to day with new technologies all the time. This is done on non-work hours, by reading blogs, playing with languages at home, etc. You have to love it to stay relevant.

By the way, a mum I know was a nurse who worked in an NHS hospital. She's now training to be a HV because of the non-shift appeal. I'm not sure how 9-5 it is, or if you need any nursing experience to get into it. And maybe all HVs are mums already?

Triumphoveradversity Thu 04-Jul-13 09:46:14

I think if you really don't like nursing fair enough but your posts really stand out as wanting something easy and that allows you lots of freedom. A 48 hour week is a lot I remember doing those kind of hours for quite a few years when I was young but that is quite often what is needed and its easier when your young. Your health is hopefully good, mine is not great now in middle age. There is no way I will ever be able to work those kind of hours again.

This is the easier time for energy levels, they go down illness or not.

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