This is just a rant. Company I applied for a job with have fucked me about massively.

(59 Posts)
LaQueef Wed 03-Jul-13 11:18:05

Back in APRIL I applied for a job. I decided that as I had until September that I would just apply for one job at a time, I wasn't totally up shit creek, I could just carry on with my business if no job arrived and I didn't want to swamp myself with interviews etc while still working FT.

SO I applied for this one (dream) job. They immediately called me for a phone interview, that went really well, and then I went on to have five separate interviews/meetings with various directors and managers. Each one ended on a positive, they were clear that they were trying to juggle things to create an opening for me.

The last two meetings were about a specific role, and I left the last meeting with a pretty much verbal offer of a job (yes, all great, I just need to speak to X and I'll get back to you with a job offer tomorrow). He never phoned and so I chased it up, got fobbed off with 'I'll call you back tomorrow' and then this morning have had a letter (a LETTER ffs, everything else has been on the phone or face to face) saying thanks but no thanks, and we'll keep your details on file.

THREE FUCKING MONTHS.

Three months of blowing smoke up my arse and telling me I'm brilliant and they're looking forward to working with me.

Is this just what the process is like these days? I've been self employed for ages.

I have just sent my cv off to all the other local companies and I WILL have a job by September, but I am completely shattered by this.

I have to say that some of my RL friends (who will no doubt see this) will be a bit 'I told you so' (in a supportive and soft huggy fashion, obvs).

I am so angry and sad and fucked off with myself and them.

AIBU?

Fucking fucking fucked up arse wanking scrotes.

I won't say I told you so but fucking hell. The BASTARDS, what utter fucking bollocking CUNTS.

And yes you WILL find a job by September because you are awesome.

Xroads Wed 03-Jul-13 11:26:54

I would be really annoyed BUT look on the positive side you wouldn't want to work for such an incompetent company anyway would you so you have had a lucky escape, chalk it up to experience and move on. It's their loss! Onwards and upwards eh?

LaQueef Wed 03-Jul-13 11:27:00

The last interview meeting I had was with the branch manager who said, this is just a formality, I just needed to meet you and you seem great, you're exactly as I expected, just what we're looking for.

We discussed a start date, the days I would work (5/7), who I'd be working with.

I mean, what the fuck?

ArabellaBeaumaris Wed 03-Jul-13 11:28:44

Dickheads. They don't deserve you.

ajandjjmum Wed 03-Jul-13 11:30:01

There is a hell of a lot of jumping through hoops going on at the moment, and the people you'd been dealing with obviously felt bad, as they wrote rather than called you.

It won't be personal. I'm sure they were telling the truth, and would have loved to work with you. Sadly so many large companies are not taking new people on at the moment, it was probably an instruction from someone on high, who'd never come across you.

If it really was your dream job, why don't you ask for feeback, with a view to keeping the option open for the future?

And you're brilliant - clearly!!! grin

Latara Wed 03-Jul-13 11:31:20

Weird Freaky Freaks. Wishing you better luck next time flowers

My guess is that they did want you but now the budget has been cut and they're not allowed to employ you, and can't/ don't want to admit it. What the management want and what the accountants will let them do are often two different things. sad

NinthWave Wed 03-Jul-13 11:32:09

BASTARDS, scummy timewasting twatbags. I won't say I told you so, but I am glad they've shown their true colours before you ended up stuck working for them.

Something else will turn up xx

YouTheCat Wed 03-Jul-13 11:33:09

Twats.

But just look forward to when they call you to offer you something in a few months and you've already got something else so you can tell them to shove it.

NatashaBee Wed 03-Jul-13 11:33:48

I'd ask for feedback, just to make the squirm.

On the plus side... If they treat people like this then you probably had a lucky escape.

LaQueef Wed 03-Jul-13 11:34:19

Thank you.

It all happens for a reason, right?

And at least I have tons of interview practice for the next round.

thanks

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

SofaKing Wed 03-Jul-13 11:35:21

This happened to dh, endless positive interviews then a no thanks. Turns out senior manager had offered the role to someone he met at a party, just as the line manager was going to make an offer to dh.

The line manager left and offered dh a much better job at his new company.

Hope you get a much better job, at least you found out they were bastards before you went to work there.

happyyonisleepyyoni Wed 03-Jul-13 11:37:27

Arseholes. Same happened to my DH recently. Why do (senior) people waste time like this? I am sure its a lucky escape if this is the way they do business.

quesadilla Wed 03-Jul-13 11:37:41

Yep it sounds as if they were on the point of giving you the job and someone vetoed the budget.

It's shit. Really shit. But I am afraid it's par for the course at the moment. I have been looking for a job for over a year as I an facing likely redundancy at some unspecified point soon and this sort of thing is standard practice. In fact you are actually lucky they bothered to tell you it was a no go. Over three quarters of the jobs I have applied for haven't so much as acknowledged my application.

nenevomito Wed 03-Jul-13 11:40:49

No, its not how things usually work. Usually its first interview, possible second interview if they had a lot of good candidates. Job offer.

I'm not enough of a cunt to say I told you so. I'm just pissed off that you were being dicked around by a company who couldn't find its own arse with two hands and a map for so long.

carolthesecretary Wed 03-Jul-13 11:42:42

Yes, totally shocking behaviour from employers/recruiters at the mo. Worst I have ever known it I'm afraid.

When you are applying for jobs you need to look after number one (while being terribly nice to everyone). From experience, I wouldn't attend five interviews for a job nor would I work for a company that expected me to jump through hoops like that.

Apply for jobs, go for interviews and keep looking/applying until you have a contract (you are happy with) in your hand. I have been caught out several times in the past by not doing this.

Also, don't be tempted to have a go at this sod awful company. You will be wasting your breath and it may just backfire.

gastrognome Wed 03-Jul-13 11:43:39

Sounds familiar. Same thing happened to my husband, twice (with different companies) recently. It's truly soul-destroying, so my sympathies are with you!

aldiwhore Wed 03-Jul-13 11:45:00

Sorry to hear this LaQueef it's just so outrageously rude and cruel even.

I'm desperately seeking 'the perfect job' (it would help if I knew what it was and where to look) but just getting this crappy admin job I have at present took a huge chunk out of my life - workshops, interview rounds - I mean seriously, I'm on less than £16k!

I know employers have the pick of the crop at the moment but they way they fanny around really winds me up.

WeAreSix Wed 03-Jul-13 11:47:30

I've just been through something similar. Fuckwits.

LIZS Wed 03-Jul-13 11:48:25

It's not uncommon, sadly . I've known a few people in specialist areas being headhunted then messed about.

FriendlyLadybird Wed 03-Jul-13 11:48:34

I agree with the people who said that they probably did want you but had the budget cut from underneath them.

I think you should take away from the experience a lot of confidence in your awesomeness, but also the fact that nothing in the current climate is secure until you've got a signed contract.

Apply for more than one job at a time, so that you've always got another possibility to think about ... and be wary about a company that demands five separate interviews. I've never had more than two. Ever.

higgle Wed 03-Jul-13 11:49:15

Me too - put a lot of effort into securing job which would involve running legal topic courses for business people - my role would be to head up the unit and plan the courses - with FE College. I was offered some temporary lecturing to get into things then the new unit was cut due to funding problems. I did ring to have it out with them but as the person who had recruited me was being made redundant I ended up feeling more sorry for him than me!

NotSoSpecial Wed 03-Jul-13 11:52:18

Can you ask for some feedback?

MrsGeologist Wed 03-Jul-13 12:04:39

What a bunch of shithats! Hopefully their bizarre and shoddy work practices will be their undoing.

You'll find something better, hopefully in the same field, and you can have a laugh with your new colleagues about how fucking weird the other company is.

KentishWine Wed 03-Jul-13 12:06:14

This is exactly what is happening to me right now. Same time frame, same process. I'm waiting for an official 'no', but I know it's coming. It's stressful and time consuming. wine

Viviennemary Wed 03-Jul-13 12:12:51

It's really disappointing. But on the plus side it sounds as if they would be very poor and inconsiderate employers so try and think you had a lucky escape. Hope you find something suitable soon. But don't let them mess you about next time!

ArtexMonkey Wed 03-Jul-13 12:13:16

Utter twats. I'm so sorry they've dicked you about like this chuckie egg. (((Soft bum gropes)))

LaQueef Wed 03-Jul-13 12:16:09

God I'm so sorry to hear this is happening to so many of us.

It's hideous.

I'd organised (or pencilled in, anyway) childcare based on the hours they were offering, I really got sucked in to thinking they were giving me the job. Twat.

ArtexMonkey Wed 03-Jul-13 12:19:03

You must have been all excited to get a letter from them too sad

You know you're too good for their stupid clown shoes operation don't you? You know this? They're idiots.

I had exactly the same recently. 3 interviews. The last one of which I was told was just a meeting to get to know who I'd be working with. Lots of talk about when you work here etc. they told me they'd contact me the next day that was a Friday, when I hadn't heard anything by the Tuesday I chased and was told sorry they meant the next Friday I was a bit hmm but let it go. When I still hadn't heard from them I emailed again and was totally ignored angry. I them emailed someone else and was ignored again angry angry angry.

Never heard from them since. Really pissed me off. All the meetings were scheduled half way through the day as well so that's 3 days holiday I had to take.

I think it is much more common at the moment unfortunately. They know they will always be able to find somebody else and that we will all jump through hoops to get a good job.

PostBellumBugsy Wed 03-Jul-13 12:25:06

Don't know why, but I'm always really dubious if there are more than 2 interview stages (unless that has been clearly spelt out in the recruitment process).

However, they are definitely fuckwits of the highest order and clearly couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery!!!!!!

gallifrey Wed 03-Jul-13 12:46:39

Exactly the same thing happened to my dh, it went on for 9 months of messing him about all the time saying the job was his etc. Then he finally went for an interview and a week later they phoned him to say they were not employing anybody. The thing is they approached him!
We were going to have to move 300 miles away, we had given notice on our house, our dd was told she was going to have to move schools and it all ended in nothing.

Halfling Wed 03-Jul-13 12:55:24

I work in the recruitment business. Positions go on hold all the time. In fact, the bigger the company, the greater the possibility of things getting stalled.

In such companies, typically the hiring manager/HR would be handling 20-30 live roles and there is a lot happening internally - employees being moved internally, someone who has resigned gets offered an existing role for which external candidates have already been inverviewed, position put on hold due to new budget cuts etc.

It is not about you but about the incompetent processes of the company.

nenevomito Wed 03-Jul-13 12:59:31

I think that because the jobs market is so tough at the moment that people are prepared to accept more crap off employers than they would do in easier times. It gives the dick head companies more time to be, well, dickheads.

carolthesecretary Wed 03-Jul-13 13:08:49

I agree with Halfling about what is going on behind the scenes. It's the way they go about it which is so wrong.

Whitershadeofpale went for three interviews and chased twice. No one had the common courtesy to come back to her. I've had the same myself but just one interview (on a couple of occasions) and no response despite chasing. I had a telephone interview a couple of weeks ago and again nothing despite chasing.

Would be good if we could name and shame... grin

The utter cunts flowers

This has happened to me a couple of times, I know how gutting it can be. Something much better will come along soon, and not in a company full of fuckwits.

hopefully for me too

Completely agree Carol its the lack of common courtesy that really grates. we all understand that things happen sometimes and I understand they can't reply to every applicant but after interviewing people several times its really rude and disheartening.

Kat101 Wed 03-Jul-13 13:49:50

I had this a couple of years ago. So disheartening and demoralising. I actually didnt mind so much about not getting the job, it was the sheer time spent interviewing and then they didnt even have the balls or decency to call me in person, they sent an email. So disrespectful.

I asked for feedback, they just kept saying that I was excellent but the competition was very high. I pointed out that there must have been something that put the competition ahead of me, but they stuck to the party line too afraid of legal action/comeback. I think that just rubbed salt in the wound.

I believe its been quite common in the US for a number of years now. A good applicant is interviewed, the manager doesnt have the budget but passes them on to another dept who may employ them, they may not quite suit that department but another office might be interested, and so on. Hence so many interviews that come to nothing.

You'll get a better job, and then be glad that it didnt work out with these people arseholes after all.

Kewcumber Wed 03-Jul-13 13:54:09

I doubt its budget cuts just wanker managers.

I have gone all the with job interveiws to the point of being told I would be offered a job only to have it pulled due to budget cuts (more than once - advertising in the 90's!). In that position companies have always a been honest about the financial problem and were generally extremely apologetic.

Corygal Wed 03-Jul-13 14:12:02

Yep, I've been there - the big firm approaches me, lures me to do loads of things and millions of phone interviews/meetings - then insisted on ringing me nonstop to "keep me in the loop" as "hiring takes ages".

The final call was to say, breezily, that the firm "had to promote from within" ie no budget, but they still wanted to keep me "in the loop. Byee!"

Well, good luck with that.

frogspoon Wed 03-Jul-13 14:19:17

Sounds like they were idiots and perhaps not getting the job was a blessing in disguise.

Similar thing happened to me once, went for an interview at a school and head phoned me up and told me I was first choice candidate and they they planned to offer me the job. A week later I get another phone call, they had offered it to another candidate.

They then phoned up a couple of months later, as the first choice candidate had buggered off to Australia, and being an idiot I said yes again. A few days later they let me know (by text this time!) that they had asked an old colleague to fill the role instead.

I was incredibly upset at the time, especially as I had no permanent job, but looking back it was probably a blessing in disguise as they were so disorganised and rude.

carolthesecretary Wed 03-Jul-13 15:49:39

"Wanker managers"

Chortle!

There are a few of them about...

LaQueef Wed 03-Jul-13 16:51:29

I have applied for about twenty jobs today.

Everything from Estate Agency to selling medical equipment.

My dream job is this <> close...

wannabeawallaby Wed 03-Jul-13 16:56:26

What was the job? Five interviews in an absolute piss take. Be glad you didn't get the job - they sound like a bunch of incompetent fucktards.

That's pants - I have been in your position and I still can not believe how unbelievably rude some of these companies are. You jump through endless hoops, make yourself available at short notice for interview after interview and then more often than not they CBA to even let you know.

I suppose you could consider yourself lucky they bothered to write...... I had one interview where neither the company, nor the agency I went through bothered to let me know anything.

The arrogance of some of them is unbelievable - I wouldn't treat my worst enemy the way I've been treated.

Sorry to hear you've wasted so much time - just repeat to yourself "I didn't want your poxy job anyway".

BellaVita Wed 03-Jul-13 17:06:47

Is that you? sad

Chin up lovely xx flowers

hackmum Wed 03-Jul-13 17:18:54

The appalling thing is they didn't tell you why. Clearly there was nothing wrong with you (unless they did some background check and found you were a convicted murderer, which I'm assuming they didn't), so they must have fucked up. Suddenly someone comes along and says sorry, we have no budget, or that role can be done internally, or whatever it is. It won't be that they suddenly remembered they had a much better candidate.

LaQueef Wed 03-Jul-13 17:54:31

To be fair, the letter did say that they had decided not to move x into y and that z opportunity hadn't emerged, hence no job for me.

But still.

Fuckeroo.

You have my total sympathy.

I am also applying for jobs at present, and I find it so disheartening that if employers are not interested in you they don't even bother to say "thanks for applying but no thanks".

It's just like application go into a black hole.

I've applied for 5 positions today (in between helping my mum into town in her wheelchair and the school run, etc), with a further 12 lined up to apply for once the DCs are in bed.

I did have one interview near Xmas, and didn't even hear from them afterwards so assume they appointed another candidate. Then I get a call a couple of months later for a more senior role, had an interview for that one, and then again heard absolutely nothing. I've been told unofficially that the new owners of the company are changing things all the time so may have had a lucky escape.

ARealDame Wed 03-Jul-13 18:49:53

It sounds awful, OP.

In hindsight, I would have "called" them on it. On the phone. And taped it.

Hindsight is a great thing.

ARealDame Wed 03-Jul-13 18:54:31

BTW, I would have bailed them out on it. Is that a euphemism for telling them what jerks they've been big-time? I hope so. I think people are far too accepting of crappy behaviour. I understand, its an employers' market, but I think people are entitled to common decency and respect. Its a shame you didnt' get a chance to bullox them (is it too late?!) But, then also think OP, you dodged a bullet.

spangledboots Wed 03-Jul-13 20:22:42

I only graduated last year so have been hearing similar stories from quite a few friends. They get invited to several interviews, sometimes even offered a job and then kept waiting for weeks and weeks. One friend in particular seemed to think she was getting the job so didn't go to other interviews and then ended up with nothing. It's frustrating but you just need to keep going smile

hermioneweasley Wed 03-Jul-13 20:28:06

I am hearing these stories more and more. Unfortunately things can change very quickly, so I wukdn't advise just pursuing one thing, but to have a few on the go, though I know this is time consuming.

MrsJamin Wed 03-Jul-13 20:29:12

Happened to me too, sounded like I was just waiting for the formal offer to be made then waited around for ages, finally to be told there was no bloody job in the first place. Why do they do it?!

KateSpade Wed 03-Jul-13 20:36:15

The exact same thing happened to me. Countless interviews, verbally offering me a job, and then a shitty email saying although you were professional, your lifestyle isn't suited to the job. (Which meant my DD) - longer story. I nearly started a thread about it! angry

Aahh LaQ i could have written this post myself several moons ago

the bastards met me about 5 times, at the last interview the CEO came to meet me and berated the other interviewers as they hadn't got my company car details ie what car did i want (any car, name a car type conversation!), and for them to hurry up as i would need it from the off (never even knew the job came with a car up until this point, so it just kept getting better and better smile )

I didn't get the job and was gutted.

several years later........ i found out what had happened....the job went to an internal person who was trying to hold them over a barrel re money, but they were able to negotiate with him because i applied and had a very specific skills set, just like him. the bastards were stringing me along the whole time to save a few fucking grand.

i had the last laugh as it turns out new guy was shit and was sacked and they had to "buy in" the service at about twice what i would have cost

karma smile

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