To think Jeremy Forrest's Parents have no place taking about his ex-Wife to the press.

(98 Posts)
CheshireDing Sun 23-Jun-13 10:51:07

The DM say today that they said "Emily was difficult to live with, they should never have married" and that they (the Parents) have maintained "dignity".

Clearly his marriage to Emily was obviously not perfect for him to have any kind of affair but why don't his Parents shut their mouths.

I honestly feel so sorry for Emily, her picture was in the papers in the beginning and now again today. Poor women, she's the one I feel sorry for.

justmyview Sun 23-Jun-13 10:53:53

YANBU

Whether she was difficult or not, it's a red herring anyway. If he wasn't happy in his marriage, he didn't have to prey on a schoolgirl.

Maybe it's his parents clutching at straws?

LoveBeingUpAt4InTheMorning Sun 23-Jun-13 10:56:09

I thought it was his sister who'd given an interview

thebody Sun 23-Jun-13 10:57:33

Disgusting apologists for a predatory paediphile.

Queen0fFeckingEverything Sun 23-Jun-13 10:57:45

Ugh.

The way his family have behaved is pretty icky tbh. If that was my son or brother I wouldn't be defending his actions.

Hissy Sun 23-Jun-13 10:58:45

I'd say that what this shows is that the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree.

Perhaps that's where their name comes from in fact!

What a poisonous, evil, low class bunch!

Frenchvanilla Sun 23-Jun-13 10:59:08

His family sound awful. They're completely denying the heinous crime their son committed. Apparently it's all his ex wife's fault hmm

CheshireDing Sun 23-Jun-13 11:00:31

I think the Sister might have done too Love.

DM says The Family spoke to the Mail on Sunday at their home "Jeremy's Father said he went round to the old marital home to collect Jeremy's stuff and Emily's Father" "told them to leave". No shit. I would be surprised if his language was not more colourful than that!

Heartbrokenmum73 Sun 23-Jun-13 11:02:35

Yes, of course, it's his wife's fault that he preys on 13 year-old girls. What is wrong with his family? He's obviously the golden child who can do no wrong, so they will look for anyone else to blame for his actions because otherwise they may have to start looking at themselves and wondering where they went wrong in their parenting.

McNewPants2013 Sun 23-Jun-13 11:02:41

Does any one think his family are in denial about the crime Jeremy has done.

Emily has done nothing wrong, if she was difficult to live with then Jeremy should of ended their relationship. Not abducted a 15 year old child who he was teaching.

Heartbrokenmum73 Sun 23-Jun-13 11:05:06

I doubt she was difficult to live with at all - that's probably what he told his family. She was just the woman he married to maintain a semblance of normality to the world, while in reality he had a thing for teenage girls, the sick fuck.

landofsoapandglory Sun 23-Jun-13 11:06:03

It does not say "Emily was difficult to live with!"

They should not have commented on what she was or wasn't like, if she supported him or not when he needed it, but FFS of you are going to quote an article, then get it right!

CheshireDing Sun 23-Jun-13 11:16:51

Land it says…

Julie said: ‘I’m not excusing his behaviour, and he has to accept blame, but there were other factors.
‘Emily was difficult for Jeremy to deal with. Jeremy is so giving and Emily enjoyed that as she needed constant reassurance'

Deal/live - shoot me down because I used the wrong word. The implication is still the same in his Families opinion!

deepfriedsage Sun 23-Jun-13 11:19:46

The problem in his marriage was him.

deepfriedsage Sun 23-Jun-13 11:21:11

Poor Emily, she is not the one in prison, she was probably abused by him too in the marriage and still suffering abuse now, poor woman.

TakingTimeOut Sun 23-Jun-13 11:22:19

Regardless of if she was difficult to live with or not (nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors), at the end of the day the man abused his position in his profession and a 15 year-old girl. No matter what his personal circumstances were - you can not justify that.

I guess it's their window of opportunity to make some cash and try and stop people calling their son a sex offender. Which he is. And anyone with a modicum of intelligence and values can see clearly that he's a sleazy, immature, manipulative sex offender masquerading as a teacher.

But blame the wife for not making him happy. And the school girl for luring him.

Idiots.

Purple2012 Sun 23-Jun-13 11:25:08

I find the father of the 15 year old tge hardest to fathom. He thanked forest for looking after his girl and would be proud to walj her down the aisle to marry him.

deepfriedsage Sun 23-Jun-13 11:25:52

His family must be perfect and very easy to live with, that's why they produced the type of sin they did.

His dad says 'obviously running away with a pupil is not on' erm ok slight understatement.

They don't seem to see much wrong with what he did, then go on to put all the blame on Emily, the girl, the girl's parents, the school and the police. It's almost laughable.

deepfriedsage Sun 23-Jun-13 11:27:49

Really the child's father said that? No wonder his daughter was easy prey for a peado and her mum is having a hard time.

2rebecca Sun 23-Jun-13 11:32:19

He chose to marry this particular woman, and it sounds as though he likes having dependent women who see him as wiser and reassuring.
If the marriage wasn't working then they separate and divorce.
Most of us wouldn't be impressed if our husbands had sex with a 15 year old, especially one they had a duty of pastoral care for and used "my bad marriage boo hoo hoo" as an excuse.
The wife is the one least deserving of blame in this disfunctional melange.

landofsoapandglory Sun 23-Jun-13 11:32:34

Whatever, Cheshire. You have decided to quote a sentence in an article that wasn't there to start a thread.

I said that the family are wrong to comment on Emily, on what she is or isn't like. I feel very, very sorry for her and for her sake I wish that 'the girl', 'the girl's' family, and Forrest's family would just stop talking to the Press.

However, with all that in mind I still think you are wrong to 'quote' a sentence in an article that wasn't there!

Catlike Sun 23-Jun-13 11:33:44

His family are utterly vile. Excusing and minimising his behaviour, saying it's his wife's fault, saying it's the school's fault, saying it was all down to his kind and caring nature, that he "hadn't fully grown up" but that the girl is "very mature" FFS!

And now manipulating the girl themselves, to help their precious boy keep control of her.

What else is all of this encouragement of the 'relationship', the publication of her letter to them, the quotes to the press about wedding plans, about welcoming her into their family, saying "I don’t think he could have withstood it if she’d rejected him."?

Can't believe they are allowed to do this to her. It's absolutely sick.

carabos Sun 23-Jun-13 11:40:22

These people are in denial and the press are their enablers, along with the school and the girl's stepfather.

The facts are simple: Forrest abused a child. He is a sex offender. His wife played no part in it.

The revisionist stories in the media are very frightening - it is this sort of culture and environment that facilitates Jimmy Savile, Stuart Hall and the rest.

Helpyourself Sun 23-Jun-13 11:41:54

Yuk. Hardly surprising though, 'predatory sex offender's parents are sleezy too...'
Britain's tabloids redefining the moral landscape again- just when you thought they couldn't get any lower.

waikikamookau Sun 23-Jun-13 11:44:47

don't believe what you read.
these journo's have a habit of putting words into people's mouths.
bear that in mind.

5madthings Sun 23-Jun-13 11:47:57

Its awful and beggars belief. His parents are eithet denial or just bloody stupid and the girls own father...

The whole thing is horrifying and the papers just want to make money. How about the do an article on why its wrong and educate a few peoole on the responsibilities teachers and other authority figures have.

Yesterday the sun was telling all about hos he tried to groom othet girls, today its a love affair and they will get married...

5madthings Sun 23-Jun-13 11:50:14

You dont have to just believe the papers. Thete is a fan page for jeremy where his mum encourages peoole to write to him to support him and his sister is on there. Even encouraging under age girls to lie about their age so the letters get through to him in prison... But yeah they are being misrepresented in the press...

Alisvolatpropiis Sun 23-Jun-13 13:12:11

Yanbu

Ok she was difficult to live with - that doesn't justify having an affair let alone being a fucking paedophile!
They are utterly deluded.

The only person who has managed to retain any dignity is his wife. I feel terribly sorry for her.

ILivebytheRiver Sun 23-Jun-13 13:18:13

I've just read this this with my jaw on the floor.

If I was his wife I would seriously think about doing an interview with a major newspaper and donating the proceeds to Childline or some similar charity. I am sure she just wants to hide but if there are all these apologists getting their points of view across then it would be good for her to put her side. I am intrigued as to what her perspective on this situation is.

MammaTJ Sun 23-Jun-13 13:21:52

Disgusting apologists for a predatory paediphile.

This!

JamieandtheMagicTorch Sun 23-Jun-13 13:28:29

"Jeremy is so giving"

Jeremy is a sad individual with a warped view of being the knight in shining armour to schoolgirls because he can't sustain a relationship with an adult female. If I were his parents I'd be wondering what led him to have stalled at a juvenile state of development

JamieandtheMagicTorch Sun 23-Jun-13 13:30:45

What is it about him that makes people feel sorry for him?

hollyisalovelyname Sun 23-Jun-13 13:35:06

Sauce for the Gander- you state it so eloquently- fully agree with you.

2rebecca Sun 23-Jun-13 13:37:31

The fact that he seems so immature and child like. However many abusers of young teenage girls are emotionally immature which is why they prefer to have relationships with young girls as they can't sustain a more equal relationship with a woman their own age.
I don't think paedophile is an appropriate word here as men who prey on sexually developed but much younger than them women are different in many ways to men who are sexually attracted to 10 year olds.
A 50 year old man having a relationship with a 19 year old would fit into the former bracket but not be a paedophile, I still think it's highly unlikely the power balance in the relationship would be equal though.

Alisvolatpropiis Sun 23-Jun-13 13:50:05

The comparison between a 40 year old man and 20 year old woman having a relationship is spurious in my opinion.

Both would be adults, and power balance between two adults does not rely on age alone.

Forest is a paedophile. It's a "relationship" the girl in question was too young to be in. He preyed on her because she was emotionally vulnerable and he is an emotionally immature pathetic excuse for a man. No right thinking man is sexually attracted to a 14 year old child.

Catlike Sun 23-Jun-13 13:59:04

Eurgh. He is enjoying prison life Sounds like nobody in there thinks he's done much wrong either <<pukes>>

Alisvolatpropiis Sun 23-Jun-13 14:01:30

I was always under the impression that paedophiles were kept away from the general prison population because they were not received well at all.

2rebecca Sun 23-Jun-13 14:03:37

You really think not many 30 year old men are attracted to 15 year olds? She was only just before her 15 year old birthday when this started. I think many 15 year old girls are sexually attractive.
Teachers should be aware of this and that the girls will flirt with them and be able to resist acting on being attracted to the girls, and aware that the girls are vulnerable, in their pastoral care and emotionally not adults.
This girl wasn't "very mature" as the media/ relatives allege, she had a history of self harming and was being very immature and melodramatic when trying to persuade him to go abroad with her..

Catlike Sun 23-Jun-13 14:06:02

He's probably not viewed in the same light as men who abuse pre-pubescent children.

Unfortunately, a hell of a lot of men see 13-15 year old girls as fair game.

bunchamunchycrunchycarrots Sun 23-Jun-13 14:10:34

I doubt she was difficult to live with at all - that's probably what he told his family. She was just the woman he married to maintain a semblance of normality to the world, while in reality he had a thing for teenage girls, the sick fuck.

I agree with this^^. As for his family's claim of maintaining dignity? Words fail me, they really do. Because their press briefings this weekend have absolutely nothing to do with dignity.

zoraqueenofzeep Sun 23-Jun-13 14:25:20

They raised him the way he is and now they're trying to shift the blame on his poor wife. She didn't raise him without morals, she didn't raise him to be such an emotionally immature man that he's mentally on the same level as a fourteen year old girl, she didn't raise him to think it acceptable to groom little girls for sex and run off to France with one. If these people want to blame anyone else for the actions of their precious little princeling, they can look in the mirror and see who never taught him responsibility, respect and how to be a man. He is the despicable product of their parental failings.

SelectAUserName Sun 23-Jun-13 14:44:39

He's an odious arsewipe of an excuse for a human being but he isn't a paedophile. A paedophile is sexually attracted to prepubescent children.

I wish the whole sorry shebang would shuffle off the front pages and stop giving him and his pathetic enabling relatives the oxygen of publicity.

JamieandtheMagicTorch Sun 23-Jun-13 14:46:13

Ues.

He looks like a rat too

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SelectAUserName Sun 23-Jun-13 14:47:33

He does Jamie (although that's probably an insult to rats). He has narrow shifty asymmetric eyes. <equally irrelevant>

flippinada Sun 23-Jun-13 14:53:43

Yes he does look like a rat. Or a weasel. Although I agree that's unfair to rats and weasels as they can be appealing.

You may all be interested to know that he has a fanpage on Facebook (how nice) on which people are encouraging underage girls to write to him. Isn't that nice?

congresstart Sun 23-Jun-13 18:05:17

Lets face it the whole family is deluded and twisted, sounds like the girls father is a real gem aswell.

I just can't believe the comments on all the articles I have read....why do people feel so sorry for this scumbag?

KobayashiMaru Sun 23-Jun-13 18:09:31

She's still his wife, they aren't divorced.

scottishmummy Sun 23-Jun-13 18:47:00

the casual stance of the apologists,and those blaming his wife,the adolescent and her family.disgusting
some mn comments are appalling and blame everyone except the predator
this and McCann threads bring out worst in the knuckle draggers

flippinada Sun 23-Jun-13 18:59:29

They do indeed sm. Depressing isn't it.

Do we (those who see this as a clear case of grooming and abuse) belong to a silent majority or Vocal minority?

I can't work it out.

pussycatwillum Sun 23-Jun-13 19:07:52

Surely a paedophile is someone who wants to have sex with prepubescent children. He is a sex offender, yes, but not a paedophile.

scottishmummy Sun 23-Jun-13 19:08:08

I just think some folks are excitable,suggestible,and don't engage the brain

ilovesooty Sun 23-Jun-13 19:14:20

A comment underneath one of the Express articles refers to the girl as "manipulating this man into trashing his marriage vows". Words fail me.

I'd still describe him as a sex offender rather than a paedophile though.

flippinada Sun 23-Jun-13 19:15:03

Sauce I don't honestly know.

But I think the fact that this has been taken seriously and he's been prosecuted and jailed sends the message from the top down that it isn't acceptable.

pussycatwillum Sun 23-Jun-13 19:20:42

He should have discouraged any attention from her from the beginning. Even if she was "manipulating" him, as a teacher he should have made sure nothing happened.

He's a sex offender. I thought paedophile refers to an interest in pre pubescent children?

Yes, I take heart from the judges summing up and how quickly a unanimous jury found him guilty. They were the ones with the evidence in front of them. Also the fact they are perusing a third party influence.

However, dissenting voices thinking it's some kind of flipping love story have shocked me. It's so blatantly obviously wrong.

ilovesooty Sun 23-Jun-13 19:36:27

He was in a position of trust and will have been trained in safeguarding. He should certainly have known not to get involved in anything like this.

TheSmallClanger Sun 23-Jun-13 19:38:23

I think we should stick with "sex offender", as it is factually correct and saves on debate.

Teachers, especially younger ones like Forrest, have all been through formal and informal training in dealing with crushes and inappropriate behaviour from students. He would have known exactly what he needed to do (involve his line manager), but chose not to. He is entirely to blame for the situation, because he could have stopped it, at any time, and did not.

quoteunquote Sun 23-Jun-13 19:41:09

I'm difficult to live with, but funnily enough my husband doesn't see that as a reason to abduct children and rape them.

At no point has this man or his supporters taken in the enormity of the outcomes of his actions, clearly responsibility is not their strong point.

He will be out in less than two years, (half the sentence and time already served)

the TV celebrity who was let off his child abuse the other day because it was historic, because it happened a while ago, it's OK, not that those women had their childhood stolen, lives changed permanently. he got a pat on the head and sent home,

The people who had their lives destroyed by jimmy savile, and had a life time of enduring him leering out of screens at them, have now got the person they had to put their trust in and tell all the gory details to, reliving their ordeal now leering out of the big brother daily on TV, a blatant abuse of trust.

Other than a bit of shame which clearly wash off them, anyone who wishes to commit sexual abuse in this country has little in the way of inconvenience should they be held accountable.

Very few ever receive any sort of reasonable rehabilitation, any attempt to change their behaviour.

Write a letter,email (template and change slightly each week)and twitter to the home secretary and your local MP every week, explain you do not think that enough is been done, what you would like to be done, if everyone did this, victims of sexual assault would not be treated with contempt.

Once your childhood is over it is over, these people steal innocence, well being, lives, happiness.

We have to stop it.

flippinada Sun 23-Jun-13 19:41:22

Of course he should pussycat. But the impression given (inadvertently no doubt) by his family is of an immature, spoilt, overgrown child who has never had to take responsibility for his own mistakes. No doubt he knew that Mummy and Daddy would leap to the rescue as they always have done.

DuelingFanjo Sun 23-Jun-13 19:43:06

He was the one who proposed to her. Maye if he didn't like her he shouldn't have?

flippinada Sun 23-Jun-13 19:48:11

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wellthatsdoneit Sun 23-Jun-13 19:55:21

Forrest is quite clearly the product of his parents if their delusion is anything to go by. The golden boy whose behaviour has been excused and minimalised. They've done him no favours by enabling his behaviour and have raised a narcissistic boy-man incapable of taking responsibility for his actions. His wife was depressed and difficult to deal with was she? I'll bet she was, being married to that twerp and having his parents as inlaws.

flippinada Sun 23-Jun-13 19:56:07

Excuse the random, odd post there. Not sure what happened.

flippinada Sun 23-Jun-13 20:01:47

Yes, I suspect being married to him was probably the root cause of her "difficult and demanding" behaviour.

I have a feeling most of us would be difficult and demanding given the same circumstances.

Or perhaps he just couldn't cope with a mature, adult woman?

His parents have never said they feel he was right though have they? I haven't seen that if they have. What I've seen are parents and an older sister offering support to a no doubt dearly loved son and brother involved in a complex case. I don't see the need for their comments to be in the papers but if this were my child I would find it hard to read say, the vitriol on this thread, without offering my different view. It's interesting that so many of you are condemning the parents whilst at the same time absolutely exempting the wife.
Personally I think the reponsibility for the crime lies with the offender. Neither wife nor parents forced him to launch in to an intensely damaging sexual relationship with this girl.

hermioneweasley Sun 23-Jun-13 20:06:09

Quoteunquote - have written to Theresa May. I fail to understand how cracking down on sexual violence could not be a vote winner - who is going t come out against it?

hermioneweasley Sun 23-Jun-13 20:08:26

Northern - people are being critical of the parents because they are minimising what JF did, and by mentioning the irrelevant details that his wife was "difficult", they are implying that this was a contributing factor in his decision to abduct and sexually abuse a child. They haven't condemned him at all.

TheSmallClanger Sun 23-Jun-13 20:08:40

I think flippinada has it right. I know of a few men with control and related issues, who claim all of their failed relationships were due to "difficult and demanding" partners.

Hermione they've talked about what they think was involved. I disagree with them but I'm not impressed either to read ON THIS THREAD people blaming their parenting for his crime. That minimises it too don't you think?

Very few parents will ever condemn their child publicly. And a good job too really. We'd be a sorry species indeed if our parents didn't retain their love for us. I'm not going to condemn parents for still loving their son and wanting to protect him even when he's been convicted of a crime.

Can I blame them for blaming his wife and the school girl though?

flippinada Sun 23-Jun-13 20:27:52

I understand that his parents will want to defend him, of course they do. As you say, Northern no doubt they love him and it is a natural parental instinct to protect your child.

Now, having said that, I would have more sympathy for their view if they (or someone acting on their behalf) hadn't set up a fan page for their son (yes, it exists) on which young girls are being encouraged to write to JF in prison.

At least, I assume they support it as they have provided their address so letters can be sent to him as girls are not allowed to write to him directly.

This is publically available, by the way.

JamieandtheMagicTorch Sun 23-Jun-13 20:28:57

Northern

I get what you are saying, but really, they should shut up. They are displaying their own ignorance.

I don't think it's unreasonable, in the context of their words, to wonder why it is their son has a warped view of what constitutes a normal relationship. They think that their son's sexual attraction to several underage girls, and acting on it, is the fault of the cheated-on wife.

JamieandtheMagicTorch Sun 23-Jun-13 20:31:13

"If I were his parents I'd be wondering what led him to have stalled at a juvenile state of development"

I said this earlier, and I do stand by it. Rather than blaming someone else, I'd think they would want to look a bit deeper at their son and maybe try and help him - not exonerate him from adult responsibilty

flippinada Sun 23-Jun-13 20:33:18

In addition to that they were quite happy to cite his wife's character failings in court and indeed highlight them as mitigation for their sons offence.

Now, whatever her personal failings might be - and we all have them - she is in no way responsible for her husband choosing to abduct an underage girl and take her to France, is she? Nobody could reasonably say she is.

I'd be mortified. I wouldn't be selling my story to the press. They certainly should not be talking about his wife. As if she hasn't got enough to contend with.

But yes, there's only one criminal here.

flippinada Sun 23-Jun-13 20:42:25

" I'd think they would want to look a bit deeper at their son and maybe try and help him - not exonerate him from adult responsibilty"

Yes exactly Jamie.

Kiriwawa Sun 23-Jun-13 20:50:52

Northern - his ex-wife isn't defending his behaviour. His family are. And of course he's been vilified. He's been convicted of abducting a child FFS

IJustWoreMyTrenchcoat Sun 23-Jun-13 21:00:30

His whole family seem very willing to excuse him don't they? Releasing the letter the girl wrote to them, blaming his wife because she was 'needy' and not here for him.

Apparently it was the schools fault, and the police for not confiscating his phone...

How about a grown man taking some responsibility for his actions? I bet he has never done a thing wrong in his whole life in their eyes.

I absolutely agree that Forrest should take reponsibility for his choices and crimes. I simply don't relish a baying mob whether it's his parents or his wife or his employers as the targets.

Wannabestepfordwife Sun 23-Jun-13 21:14:14

I think if anyone's husband had begun an emotional affair and was being distant they would be difficult to live with.

His wife is beautiful and I really hope that she can move on learn to trust again she really deserves some happiness. She has shown an incredible amount of dignity, grace and class.

When it comes to his family calling the girl manipulative, I struggled to manipulate my parents at her age let alone a grown man who should have known better.

edam Sun 23-Jun-13 21:15:26

Nothern, there's nothing 'baying' about saying it is despicable of his family to encourage and unable under-age girls to write to him. Do you know about the Facebook page where they explain that the prison won't allow him to receive post from anyone under 18, and ask that under-18 year olds send the post to their house instead? Giving their home address?

They are soliciting under-age girls for a convicted sex offender. That makes them pretty darn reprehensible in my book.

Lazyjaney Sun 23-Jun-13 21:27:08

"Do we (those who see this as a clear case of grooming and abuse) belong to a silent majority or Vocal minority?"

Outside the MN bubble (which is just a few people posting over and over really, and hectoring anyone who disagrees) views are far more nuanced, which is just as well as the issues are too.

flippinada Sun 23-Jun-13 21:29:50

I think people are understandably angry at the attitude in some quarters of lets blame everyone except the person responsible.

Speaking personally, I feel very strongly about - that's probably quite clear from my posts.

Perhaps some of my opinions seem over the top, and if people think its unfair well that's ok, they are entitled to their opinion. Hopefully it will act as a balance to the prevailing, victim-blaming culture where women and girls are deemed to be responsible for men's behaviour.

So far I've read many posts saying that the girl's mother must have been doing something wrong;that her victim impact was selfish and she was probably neglectful (in fact there's a whole thread on it).

Then you read from that parents that the wife was difficult and demanding and made his life a misery. Oh, and in addition to that the girl involved was suicidal and it was all her idea anyway and he was just so caring you see...well, you get the picture.

flippinada Sun 23-Jun-13 21:30:09

*about it.

Baying mob is a bit harsh description.

Innacorner Sun 23-Jun-13 21:42:43

The family's statement was in a nutshell ""Jeremy has been a very naughty boy. He has said he is sorry for what he did. Anyway, It is the big mean girl who made him do it. He will sit on the naughty step like he's been told to and when he's allowed off we'll all be happy again and Jeremy can carry on playing with his favourite toy"
They really don't get it do they?

Innacorner Sun 23-Jun-13 21:59:59

Flippinada, I'm sick of the victim blaming culture too. This case is just part of that spectrum, along with the Saviile et al allegations and the teenage prostitute rings - and at the other end women required to cover themselves up because men just can't control themselves (apparently).

Kiriwawa Sun 23-Jun-13 22:02:48

This is my first post on the subject lazeyjaney, I don't think I'm hectoring anyone.

I find it interesting (and totally connected to the general misogynist patriarchy) that so many women are keen to put his victim into the 'vile temptress' box. I think it's pretty laughable that you think your dismissal of the the court's ruling is 'nuanced'. I think it's risible.

Lazyjaney Sun 23-Jun-13 22:06:23

^^
Well hectored there, anyway.....

flippinada Sun 23-Jun-13 22:07:49

Thanks Inn. I think cases like this throw an uncomfortable light onto how victims of this sort of crime are treated and raise all sorts of issues such as how they are reported in the news media, child protection...it's a murky area.

Yes innacorner. Two sides of the same coin

flippinada Sun 23-Jun-13 22:14:46

By the way I checked to see if the FB page referred to upthread is still there and it is.

Innacorner Sun 23-Jun-13 22:21:30

Kiriwawa - I think it's interesting that in this case - judging by the general public opinion on tabloid websites etc - it's the "mistress" who is being viewed more favourably than the wife. The girl may be partly to blame (her dad says) but the wife made Jeremy unhappy (his family said) and of course between them were completely the reason he couldn't keep his dick in his pants. Misogynistic patriarchy, as you said.

5madthings Sun 23-Jun-13 22:29:50

Outside of mnet anyone I know agrees he is a sexual offender who groomed a vulnerable child, is mm not sure how nuanced the debate should be or could be. What he did was wrong, there isn't much debate to be had about that.

wowfudge Sun 23-Jun-13 23:28:05

I don't wish to be pedantic but Jeremy Forrest's wife is still married to him - she is not his ex-wife. Whatever was going on in his marriage does not excuse his sexual relationship with a child. He should have manned up and dealt with things instead of starting a relationship with a child. And driving a wedge between a girl and her mother.

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