To think that... *Spoilers for The Voice final*

(82 Posts)
notafan0fy00 Sat 22-Jun-13 22:25:16

Andrea shouldn't have won - that Leah has a much, much better voice, but that Andrea got the sympathy vote?

I mean obvs A has a decent voice and is very brave, but she doesn't actually always hit the notes and her voice is often all quavery like an old lady, whereas Leah is just phenomental (albeit seems a bit twatty).

However, the People Of Britain - esp the kind who vote in these things - are suckers for a good sob story.

notafan0fy00 Sat 22-Jun-13 22:25:39

Even her mum looked totally shocked she won.

suzexxx Sat 22-Jun-13 22:45:10

YANBU i could have written this post myself.

HeySoulSister Sat 22-Jun-13 22:45:39

leah had awful song choices tonight

wanted one of the boys to win

41notTrendy Sat 22-Jun-13 22:47:19

Leah, too many notes, but Bang bang was excellent.
Andrea has a remarkable voice.

They're making a tv programme, not looking for a singer.

thistlelicker Sat 22-Jun-13 22:47:29

Leak looks awful and cnt sing she screeches

Sirzy Sat 22-Jun-13 22:48:03

Andrea was fantastic tonight

Mumsyblouse Sat 22-Jun-13 22:49:02

Leah has got a good voice, but it wasn't really on display tonight. Andrea has a lovely pure tone and my girls voted for her on the basis she was the only one singing in tune. Commercial suicide for the Voice, but I'm pretty sure my 9 and 6 year old weren't voting out of sympathy, they much preferred Andrea's voice and didn't 'get' Leah who was crap on 2 out of her 3 songs.

I think it's more patronizing to suggest all the votes for Andrea were sympathy ones, given she had a better voice on the night.

Yama Sat 22-Jun-13 22:52:00

I was surprised Leah didn't sing 'I Will Survive' tonight. Since it's been a hit in'all.

I know he's probably seen as naff but I love Mike's voice.

I expected Leah to win and was pleasantly surprised when Andrea did.

LittleMissGerardButlerfan Sat 22-Jun-13 22:52:26

I really like Andrea I think she has a lovely voice, and isn't that the point of the program? I wasn't expecting her to win as I know Leah was the favourite but I'm really pleased for her.

Leah just isn't the sort of thing I like, she is unique but just not my taste.

Yama Sat 22-Jun-13 22:53:46

And yes, it's rather insulting to suggest that Andrea won because of sympathy votes. My dd loved her too (from the start) and I think it was based on her lovely voice.

Picturesinthefirelight Sat 22-Jun-13 22:54:57

Leah is just wierd. It was a right racket if noise. Just because she can ding that high doesn't mean it sounds good. Andreas songs showed her off well.

MelodyBaker Sat 22-Jun-13 22:56:34

I like Andrea, her voice is lovely - it has a wonderful tone to it.
I think she won the public over as she is so humble and she seemed so amazed she could be on the voice and reach the fin. Leah acted as though she knew she was the winner from the start.
Leah isn't my cup of tea - Andrea is. I'll be downloading angels tonight.

Itaintmebabeitaintmeyourlookin Sat 22-Jun-13 22:57:40

Andrea was amazing, beautiful voice

Itaintmebabeitaintmeyourlookin Sat 22-Jun-13 22:58:44

And me.. Very unusual clear tone to her voice very special

Pimpf Sat 22-Jun-13 22:59:18

I thought Andrea got through on sympathy votes until I heard her sing her first song (and the one she ended with). Wow, just wow!

Leah was amazing on bang bang but overdid I will always love you.

Thought Matt was a bit cheesey.

Did anyone else think mike must have been gutted, Leah goes to Cannes, Andrea to iow festival and Matt to sing at a gig with Jessie. What does mike get? A trip down toms memory lane!

sweetiepie1979 Sat 22-Jun-13 22:59:39

I thought Andrea didn't perform well I don't know how she managed to win other than Sweet voice. I was disappointed with the result and felt there were probably a lot of sympathy votes I there. Leah has one heck of a voice. I can imagine her in concert can't imagine Andrea filling the O2.

ProphetOfDoom Sat 22-Jun-13 23:00:02

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sweetestcup Sat 22-Jun-13 23:02:39

Andrea shouldn't have won - that Leah has a much, much better voice, but that Andrea got the sympathy vote?

How condescending to suggest that! Andrea has a wonderful voice, and in my opinion Leah is awful so it all subjective at the end of the day isnt it. She warbled, she screeched and shes dire.

Alwayscheerful Sat 22-Jun-13 23:06:26

Did anyone think will.I.am was on something?

DowntonTrout Sat 22-Jun-13 23:22:28

I think Will is constantly on a natural high.

His mind is amazing, he is a genius. I wish they'd had the judges giving their views at the end though.

I thought Leah would win. Wills comments about her being something special are true, IMO, but I find some of her warbling challenging to say the least. Andreas solo numbers were spine tingling, but her duet with The Script was awful. She does not have that kind of voice. She's a Hayley Westernra (sp) type. Not my cup of tea really.

I know that last year the producers were disappointed with the winner and think they didn't have faith in her. I suspect Andrea will do much better but I still think Leah might prove to be the real winner in the end.

Andrea was and is a fantastic person and singer and she totally deserved to win. We both work in the same area and I've never met someone who draws LESS attention to her disability and never asks for special treatment.

She's a credit to herself and her family and I think the insinuation that she won on 'sympathy' is utter rubbish!

BOF Sat 22-Jun-13 23:32:34

Andrea has a very nice voice. It doesn't have the range of Leah's though. I liked her more than Leah, but I don't think she was as vocally adept. Leah was a bit annoying, but the better singer, IMO.

notafan0fy00 Sat 22-Jun-13 23:38:05

Looked through through the top most downloaded songs on iTunes during the show - loads of Leah, none of Andrea. Therefore, people care more about Andrea's personality (and part of that is sympathy or people thinking she's amazing for handling her disability so well) but they don't actually care about her voice. People were voting for her, not her voice, cos they certainly weren't downloading her voice.

Autotune and some voice coaching will probably give Andrea an album or two though, and she'll fit a certain niche for a while, although I think she'll very soon go the way of most other people who win these things.

There are so many girls who can sing. Andrea's voice is only ok and quite forgettable. Whereas Leah is something different - not to everyone's tastes but definitely memorable.

Did nobody else notice the shaky, wavery quality to Andrea's voice?!

Mumsyblouse Sat 22-Jun-13 23:41:43

I think it might be Leah who will be needing the autotune, she murdered that Witney Houston song.

It may also be the case that all the oldies (like me) are happy to let their children vote for Andrea, but we wouldn't download their music. I'm not sure the voting demographic is the same as the downloading demographic, surely the downloading demographic are out for a start on Sat night?

Itaintmebabeitaintmeyourlookin Sat 22-Jun-13 23:56:32

I download the tunes from X factor and will download Andreas song tonight to play on my I phone in the car.
And I'm hideously old

member Sun 23-Jun-13 00:00:21

I think Andrea's voice Is ethereal & unforced & you feel comfortable that she will stay in tune; given the family nature of the show, she was most likely to appeal to the opposite ends of the age group watching.

I think Leah missed a trick by not 're-performing I will survive.Although her vocal range is impressive, it was how differently she interpreted a karaoke classic that made her stand out imo.

I think rather than the British public giving Andrea the sympathy vote, it was because her down to earth personality coupled with a couple of humorous quips about Danny won them over; they identified with her more readily than Leah's quirkiness.

cocolepew Sun 23-Jun-13 00:03:38

Leah is shit. Auto tune might rescue her for a while but a CD full of her squeaking then singing really low? It will get old very quickly.

williaminajetfighter Sun 23-Jun-13 00:05:35

Urgh. Andrea winning. I honestly don't think it was the sympathy vote I just think this is how middle England votes. They go for the naicest person who shows the most humility singing the naicest songs.

And this is why mr and mrs average from suburban Leicestershire do not work as talent scouts in the music biz.

Despite that I do think if Andrea had a super cute guide dog with her she would have got even more votes. Especially if it could do some tricks.

member Sun 23-Jun-13 00:06:47

And having read MUMSY BLOUSE'S post, I agree

englishteacher78 Sun 23-Jun-13 05:05:42

I've seen a lot of people moaning about Leah not winning but then saying they didn't vote - maybe that's why.
Andrea's solo choice was better IMO. Leah's best performance was the duet.
Leah will be fine - Will. i. Am is an excellent person to know in the trade. Love him and Jessie (their music gets me through running!)

NewAtThisMalarky Sun 23-Jun-13 05:56:52

While Leah's performance in the duet was good, it really didn't showcase her well. Andrea seemed to lack confidence in her duet. Matt, however, was great. I can't see why he was first out.

But then I didn't vote so can't really complain!

DowntonTrout Sun 23-Jun-13 08:34:27

They were also right about Mike being flat.

meddie Sun 23-Jun-13 08:45:57

Andrea just sounded like a choir singer, she did nothing for me. I liked Leah and some of her own versions of other songs on you tube are good, but more jazz than mainstream. Whatever happens she will have a career.
Mike needs to go over to Nashville, where the country music market is, he will probably do well there with being young and good looking.

DrHolmes Sun 23-Jun-13 08:49:44

I liked Andrea and Mike. Sometimes Leah is ok but on the final she was totally off with her first song. After Andrea sang her first song I went straight onto paddy power and put a bet on that she'd win. Hooray £20 for me smile

GoEasyPudding Sun 23-Jun-13 09:22:46

At the late stages of contests like this the singers are all very, very good. We choose who we like, it's just a matter of taste. I prefer Andreas voice right now. I also think there's a trend right now for a more folk sound - a clear, simple sound that Andrea has that helped her win. Leah sounded a bit 10 years ago - vocal tricks and that Witney song.
The good thing about this is it doesn't matter who wins, as it's all about hit records. If they don't release a hit record we won't be seeing them again sadly.

sweetestcup Sun 23-Jun-13 09:35:31

Whereas Leah is something different - not to everyone's tastes but definitely memorable

In my case for all the wrong reasons!

Samu2 Sun 23-Jun-13 09:40:39

I LOVE Leah, but no, I don't think Andrea got the sympathy vote and I think it undermines how hard she worked and how good she was on her last song. Also I don't think the public would vote for someone just because they are blind.

I am glad Leah didn't win, she will do much better now, especially with will.i.am backing her.

Andrea has a nice voice but I don't think she will sell many records, just like last years winner but I don't think it was the sympathy vote, people just genuinely liked her voice I guess.

Leah lost it when she did Whitney Housten.. awful song choice.

usualsuspect Sun 23-Jun-13 09:47:22

I knew Andrea would win from her first audition.

I can't see her selling many albums though.

usualsuspect Sun 23-Jun-13 09:52:26

Danny knew he was on a winner, that's why he kept putting het through.

Nothing to do with her voice.

The whole thing was a bloody farce.

LillethTheCat Sun 23-Jun-13 10:09:08

I think Andrea will sell loads of albums as did Charlotte Church back in the day. Not my cup of tea and I could barely watch when she was singing with The Script, it looked so uncomfortable. Also with the Angel wings on her first song coming out, nothing like a bit of cheesiness to it all.

If I voted in these sort of things I would have voted Leah or Matt, but I dont vote as I never believe these shows are looking for a singer (more so with X Factor than The Voice) or even really care if anyone gets a record contract at the end. Its all about entertaining the nation on a Saturday night.

forehead Sun 23-Jun-13 10:15:03

Leak will be a success anyway. She may not be everyone's cup of tea , but successful people often divide opinion.
Andrea has got a lovely voice, but she lacks the star quality.
Leah is quirky, slightly crazy (like Will I Am) .
I think this decision may mark the end of The Voice ,

Mumsyblouse Sun 23-Jun-13 10:16:38

I partly blame Danny though, for Andrea's performance of the duet. If you are partnering a singer who is visually impaired, probably the worst thing you can do is then run around the stage manically yourself, moving about and creating all the focus on you. If he had sung a two person duet with her, standing next to her, it would have played to her strenghts which is a nice clear tone. For her, that performance must have been pretty disconcerting and utterly baffiling as they all ran away from her to get the attention basically. Thinking of other visually impaired performers, that's probably why Stevie Wonder (who is in a different league, admittedly) sat at the piano so much. It's not that hard to think about how staging might be affected by sight impairment; not all singers are compelled to move about manically, but Danny wanted to show off his band and it didn't fit either with her voice or her performance possibilities (which are quite limited so why not work with them?)

forehead Sun 23-Jun-13 10:21:55

Agree with Mumsy.

Icelollycraving Sun 23-Jun-13 10:22:56

I loved Mike. I was v suprised that Andrea won. I don't think she was entirely put through each time on voice alone. She has a lovely voice for those emotional type songs. I was sure Leah would win,the Minnie Riperton song was fantastic but the Whitney one was not in key.
The judges all looked pretty shocked.

DowntonTrout Sun 23-Jun-13 10:35:55

I agree with mumsy in that the duet with Danny made for uncomfortable viewing.

When Simon Cowell says he trusts the British public to make the right choice, it's utter bollocks usually. Time and time again, with only one or two exceptions, the winner is not the real winner. Second or third proves to be the better position. One direction, Jls, Olly Murs.

I think this is because Saturday night tv is a viewing mix of young kids and parents. They are not the real target market, ie big buyers of music. So the producers go whole hog with sob stories etc to increase viewing figures, vote counts, after all they are making a tv show, that purports to be, but is not really interested in, finding the next big thing. The Voice says it is all about "the voice" this is just not true. It is very rare that being successful in the music industry means you have the best voice (Robbie Williams? Will.I.am? Etc)

I do wonder how Universal records feel this morning about representing Andrea. I think it's very likely she will have some success, but it will not be the result they wanted.

Ashoething Sun 23-Jun-13 10:35:55

I don't watch The Voice but turned it on last night for 10 minutes before switching to Cardifff singer of the world-where people can actually sing. Sorry but Andrea did win on the sympathy vote. She has a voice no better than girls who I see regularly singing at karaoke. She will be a one album wonder and will quietly be dropped.

crashdoll Sun 23-Jun-13 10:36:08

Gutted that Matt went out first. I think he and Leah were both much better than the other two.

sweetestcup Sun 23-Jun-13 10:55:08

ash if you have only ever saw 10 minutes of the Voice how on earth can you state that Andrea definitely only won because of the sympathy vote? confused

Commercially for the Voice it would have been better if Leah had won but there's no doubt Andrea can sing.

wigglesrock Sun 23-Jun-13 11:08:18

To be honest I don't think any of them are going to set the world on fire.

Leah was different for a talent show but there are other artists in the same vein out there. WillIAm scuppered her chances himself imo. Why would people vote for her if he thinks she's the new big thing - surely he can help her?

I liked Leah but my kids didn't at all - they loved Matt smile.

notafan0fy00 Sun 23-Jun-13 15:47:48

There were loads and loads and loads of people who could sing better than Andrea, even this year (think of the two Welsh girls).

Leah went through because she was quirky and different, with her incredible vocal range and strange vocal tricks.

Andrea went through because she made good TV as the 'blind girl who can sing'. Her voice is tuneful but weak and quavery a lot of the time, and with absolutely nothing special about it. If you just head her on the radio, there is nothing about it that would make you think: wow!

And of course the public would vote for her based on being blind. The public are generally idiots, who vote people like blood Rylan or whatever his name was through - and Jedward anyone? It's got nothing to do with the voice and everything to do with the personality, and her 'persona' was the brave and nice blind girl. Makes a mockery of the concept of 'the voice' though.

FrenchRuby Sun 23-Jun-13 15:52:08

I haven't seen the final yet so can't comment on those songs but I was surprised Andrea got through her first audition tbh, her voice was very trembly on the high notes, better people than her didn't have anyone turn around. The whole show baffles me because some okish singers got through but some amazing singers had no turn arounds.

noddyholder Sun 23-Jun-13 15:53:36

None of them will have a career so its immaterial. Terrible voices and I don't know who styled them but OMG horrendous

cardibach Sun 23-Jun-13 17:49:11

If they want to really select on the basis of 'THe VOice' they need to keep the identities/back stories secret right up to the end. THat would be an interesting show.

BOF Sun 23-Jun-13 17:59:33
ImTooHecsyForYourParty Sun 23-Jun-13 18:04:10

It's only a TV show.

It really doesn't matter who wins it. They will have won a tv singing competition and nothing else. And well done to them. It's a bit of fun and a few minutes in the limelight for them. A good story to tell their grandkids.

Out of all the winners of all these different singing competitions - who's still in the charts now? How many can you even remember?

It's just successful TV and not really about creating new musical stars who are going to have 20 year careers.

all these people who win these shows will be back cleaning windows or whatever within 12 months.

EssexGurl Sun 23-Jun-13 18:22:37

We didn't get Leah and thought she was not good last night. Loved Andrea's first performance and thought she probably won it on that alone. Also v v impressed with her on R1 breakfast show last week. V sparky and great sense of humour. I wanted her to win anyway but loved her after that. She was def best person on the night and so deserved it.

FreudiansSlipper Sun 23-Jun-13 18:28:15

Leah was by far the best singer her range is amazing and loved her putting her own little twist in a song

Andrea's voice is nice but nothing more and the guy well it was deep not much else can be said

BOF Sun 23-Jun-13 19:12:44

A few have done well out of it, Hec: Girls Aloud, Will Young, even Gareth Gates is a popular musical theatre star now. Darius McBollocks pulled a Hollywood wife, and Jedward have made a few bob and done Eurovision. Susan Boyle is pretty successful in America. By and large though, they sink back into obscurity. Certainly this lass will.

I lost interest when they didn't turn around for Bronwen Lewis on the last audition show. She was amazing. I watched the YouTube video of her singing Fields Of Gold & she was easily the best singer IMO grin.

ImTooHecsyForYourParty Sun 23-Jun-13 19:38:14

That's a very small list for such a large number of shows running over such a large number of years. grin

I think as long as people see them for the fun they are, then fair enough. The problems come when people go on them expecting fame and fortune.

Who has fame and fortune these days?

15 minutes, Andy Warhol predicted.

I think he's not far off, and it doesn't matter how that fame is achieved - reality show, being spotted after 10 years hard graft, or sheer damn luck. Your longevity isn't guaranteed.

ImTooHecsyForYourParty Sun 23-Jun-13 20:00:16

No, it isn't, but it's far less likely that you'll make it if you came through a tv show. You're normally nothing more than the latest novelty paraded in front of people with short attention spans in order to make good telly.

I will no doubt get my arse handed to me for this grin I know I will but I think that the ones who are put together by record companies in a commercial way (a pop formula if you like) and the ones who get a few minutes on mtv after winning a singing comp are for the most part destined to fall back into obscurity after a few months. They are really nothing more than a money making scheme for the record companies and are on a conveyor belt.

Boy bands, girl bands, xfactor finalists - very short shelf life.

I think if you're to stand a chance of making it long term, you've got to do it the hard way.

And even then you probably won't make it.

LillethTheCat Sun 23-Jun-13 20:15:25

What Hec says.

<nods along in agreement>

It bugs me that a lot of people who view these shows genuinely see it as a talent contest and not the saturday night entertainment program that they really are. The sooner people realise that the whole point of The X Factor etc is just to provide a TV show and line the producers pockets the better IMHO

I thought the boys were better last night actually. Wasn't impressed with the girls.

BOF Sun 23-Jun-13 23:32:08

Why would any arses be handed to anyone? And I do broadly agree with with Hec's observation, but I was pointing out that it's untrue to say that contestants NEVER get a career out of these shows- a few have done. I think the less regular posters to this thread are making the mistake of thinking that the rest of us even like these shows: by and large, we don't. But we like these threads and making each other laugh grin

alimac87 Sun 23-Jun-13 23:42:19

I love the Voice, and I'm really sorry it's finished. I can't watch Britain's Got Talent, it's just such cringe.

I thought most of the finalists tonight were pretty good. Leah has some terrific stuff on Youtube and I think she definitely has a career ahead of her. Andrea has a gorgeous rich tone to her voice, that fits with more folksy stuff. I'd love to see her do well. I think the hostility to the show is downright weird. As is the idea that it has to produce a megastar - it is called the Voice after all, not the Easily Bankable Star.

I would love to have known what the general public vote was in the semi finals - because if only one person per coach goes through, you can end up with a real distortion in the outcome. Maybe I think too much grin

GobbySadcase Sun 23-Jun-13 23:57:56

Leah is like Mariah Carey on helium. She makes me flinch.

ImTooHecsyForYourParty Mon 24-Jun-13 07:01:45

Mumsnet. International home of the arse handers wink

yes, I did think I was running the risk of being told off. grin

You're right BOF, very rarely people do go on to have a decent career. It was unfair to say they'd all be 'who?' after a year.

BeckAndCall Mon 24-Jun-13 07:12:11

I wanted Mike to win, personally, I'd pay money to listen to him.

Thing is, the people who vote are those who are actually sitting at home for 2 hours on a Saturday night, and they're not the people who buy music. So it makes no difference who wins.

But last year, neither Bo nor Tyler won and they are the ones who've had the album success. And I imagine it'll be the same for Leah - people buy her tracks so she'll be the one who succeeds .

And as for people form other shows not succeeding, let me remind you about One Direction ( didn't win) Olly Murs ( didn't win) leona Lewis and others...... They don't always end in obscurity.....

ImTooHecsyForYourParty Mon 24-Jun-13 07:21:10

Yes. That is true. It certainly is. People who don't win such things often have more success than people who do.

I think that's precisely because what is needed to win a tv talent show is not the same as what is needed to be a musical success.

SoupDragon Mon 24-Jun-13 07:27:52

But last year, neither Bo nor Tyler won and they are the ones who've had the album success

I must say, I assumed Tyler won.

Haven't heard anything from Bo though.

BeckAndCall Mon 24-Jun-13 07:32:22

Maybe I'm just tuned into radio 2 and day time TV, soup and in the real world she's not in view! Or perhaps I'm just reflecting the publicity around her album, rather than the success - the tracks I've heard are good, though.

But Tyler, his music is great and he had a website/blog about making his album which was interesting to follow.

WarmAndSunny Mon 24-Jun-13 07:36:04

As a musician, Leah has vocal skills that transfer. Andrea is good, but not great, and she is pitchy too. Mike, rarely sang two notes that were not flat. I am amazed he got to the final. I had my money on Leah, but she will get a career out of this either way. No matter why Andrea won, she will too have her life changed by it all.

WarmAndSunny Mon 24-Jun-13 07:36:34

Ps Bo released a single a while ago I think.

MrsBucketxx Mon 24-Jun-13 07:38:04

it upsets me that people can't just be nice and accept thst andrea won cause she has a lovely pure tone,

leah screached a LOT

mike was flat all the time and mat was a bit meh.

sounds like lots of sour grapes, andrea woukd not uave got through the blinds without a great voice ffs.

I think Andrea's just probably got the biggest and most supportive family. Voting must have been in double figures, mostly related to the acts. grin

I think she'll do well out of the religious granny market - there's a solid career there to be had, and weekly Songs Of Praise appearances.

SoupDragon Mon 24-Jun-13 07:47:39

When I say I've not heard anything from Bo, it may be that I've not noticed. Tyler I have noticed without looking for him IYSWIM.

SoupDragon Mon 24-Jun-13 07:48:15

Leah will do well once someone takes her in hand and teaches her to control her voice better.

Samu2 Mon 24-Jun-13 08:20:32

Bo's album is really good.

I actually love Andrea's single. Didn't think much of her in the show, but she does sound lovely in her single.

Poor Leanne sad that must be horribly embarrassing for her.

"Leah went through because she was quirky and different, with her incredible vocal range and strange vocal tricks."
"Whereas Leah is something different - not to everyone's tastes but definitely memorable."

Haven't you answered your own question there? She is not to everyone's tastes. As for vocal range, so has Mariah Carey, and I don't like listening to her either. Just sing the damned song woman, stop crowbarring fancy trills in where they don't belong and don't suit the song! And I found Leah's singing similarly annoying.

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