To be excited by the Royal Birth

(217 Posts)
RazzleDazzleEm Thu 20-Jun-13 17:32:30

I just love the pomp and ceremony of it, and the added extra that the commoner Middleton s have by fluke such a starring role.

Its so silly but also something lovely happening in the world when so much misery comes out of the news every single day.

I wouldn't be so excited if it was another royal but the fact Kate is a commoner...I don't know...I just love this angle! Also I feel so happy for William who had a decimated family that now he will be able to make his own family.

Sparklingbrook Thu 20-Jun-13 17:34:24

I think meh. But if you are excited then that's ok. You go and buy a tea towel and a commemorative mug. smile

Sparklymommy Thu 20-Jun-13 17:36:32

I am pleased for the whole family!

RazzleDazzleEm Thu 20-Jun-13 17:38:50

I wouldn't go so far as to buy the mug I don't think....however it would be nice for the DC's wouldn't it...

In fact if its a boy, it may marry my DD one day and the mug would be good omen...grin

Sparklingbrook Thu 20-Jun-13 17:39:36

I think a mug would be a good idea. grin

usualsuspect Thu 20-Jun-13 17:42:45

I'm a bit meh too,but whatever floats your boat.

TheRealFellatio Thu 20-Jun-13 17:43:06

YANBU at all. It will form part of our country's history and although I am not a Royalist particularly I think they both seem like lovely people and they, and their baby are good for UK morale right now. I am very happy for them and a little bit excited too.

I will never be one of those mad people that follows the Royals around and claps at them though.

CloudsAndTrees Thu 20-Jun-13 17:43:29

I'm excited too, and Ill happily buy the tea towel!

Will they have a day where they take the baby onto the balcony at Buckingham palace so we can all wave flags?

xigris Thu 20-Jun-13 17:44:26

It's always exciting when a baby's born. As far as royalty? Meh!

usualsuspect Thu 20-Jun-13 17:44:49

As long as they don't dangle the baby Michael Jackson style over the balcony.

SoupDragon Thu 20-Jun-13 17:45:41

Now they have changed the laws on succession, I'm so hoping it's a girl.

HollyBerryBush Thu 20-Jun-13 17:46:38

I like a feel good story and this is one.

Dina was a commoner, as was the QM - hardly a new event in the blood line - there aren't enough unrelated princesses to go round Europe these days. Look at Albert of Monaco - he had to marry a South African Swimmer, and some crown princess of somewhere I forget just married an Argentine Banker.

At least we retain a semblance of class rather s'leb culture.

)))foreign royals((( all bicycle monarchy - wheeled out and wheeled away again

FirstStopCafe Thu 20-Jun-13 17:48:00

YANBU. I love it!

usualsuspect Thu 20-Jun-13 17:48:07

I'm not looking forward to the million threads loving or hating the babies name on MN though.

miffybun73 Thu 20-Jun-13 17:48:20

I'm just interested in what the baby will be called.

What people name their children really fascinates me.

cardibach Thu 20-Jun-13 17:49:05

It is how you feel, it can't BU or NBU!
However, I don't get it. I don't understand why it is 'nicer' news than any baby you actually know (well, know the parent of) getting born, or how it will cheer anything up. How has William's family been 'decimated'? His mum died, and that is very sad but not unique. His dad seems to have done a reasonable job, with extended family and step mum, of bringing him up.
However, I do agree it will be nice if it is a girl so the new law gets an outing!

HollyBerryBush Thu 20-Jun-13 17:49:39

Well you can be sure it wont be called Kai, Klay, Tyson, Kay-leigh, Chantelle or Jade

Flobbadobs Thu 20-Jun-13 17:50:39

Defintely a feel good story and it's always nice when a baby is born. Of course there is always the excuse for another summer street party! (Which apparently our particular street will turn out for in rain, hail, 6ft snowdrifts, any weather as long as there is cake and music grin)
Am another one hoping for a girl..

fuzzywuzzy Thu 20-Jun-13 17:50:56

Do we get a bank holiday out of it?

sassytheFIRST Thu 20-Jun-13 17:51:46

I think it's all cack actually. Baby being born obv nice news. Who the parents are - totally irrelevant to me.

But I do think trotting out the Diana/Queen ma were commoners line is a wee bit misleading. They may not have been actually royal (though certainly distantly related) but they were aristos of the first class - Diana was born in Blenheim Palace and the QM in Glamis castle (mentioned in Macbeth). Hardly middle class/non U.

usualsuspect Thu 20-Jun-13 17:51:53

It's bound to have a MN approved name.

VivaLeBeaver Thu 20-Jun-13 17:54:38

I want to know as she's having a vaginal birth will she have a midwife?

I've read the Royal gynaecologist will "deliver" her - so a consultant. I just can't imagine a consultant been very up to speed with encouragement, support, etc through a possible 15/17 hour labour?

Maybe Carole will do all of that along with Wills.

curlew Thu 20-Jun-13 17:56:28

I think it would be good if The Lord Chancellor had to be present like in the good old days.

MortifiedAdams Thu 20-Jun-13 17:59:31

Holly Diana wasnt a commoner, she was a Lady, long before she hooked up.with Charles.

Im.considering sending a little gift from my toddler dd - not fussed if they or donate it to charity, but im assuming the palace will send out responses so it would be nice for.dd to keep (I know they did that woth wedding gifts).

sassytheFIRST Thu 20-Jun-13 17:59:38

Yy good call curl - a room full of old men ensuring that no one smuggles a cushion out and a baby in tucked away inside a warming pan grin

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JedwardScissorhands Thu 20-Jun-13 18:20:47

YANBU. I am desperate for a tea towel!

RazzleDazzleEm Thu 20-Jun-13 23:07:26

Yes I am hoping for a girl too.

I would love them to be adventurous with the name. I do love solid names Like Alexandria but it would be so lovely to have something a little more exciting...

I think there is a lot very different about this birth, for the first time in history the commoners will find out the details of the baby before the royals, it will be carol who is the dominant grand parent with most sway.....we all know that right....

The future heir will have much more to do with commoners than ever before....our royal family are very stuffy....I think its a huge break away from the cosseted world and protocol....I would be amazed if they even had a nanny or the child was sent to boarding school.

YAabitU - another celebrity couple as far as I am concerned. But yes, a baby being born is always exciting, so enjoy.

I am quite sure the name won't be Kadence grin.

Re delivery: surely a MW can be present AND a consultant, non? One does not rule out the other, I'd imagine?

Oh gawd, yes, a girl, please!

Maybe I am more excited that I care to admit to myself?? blush

And stop saying 'commoner' - the royal are just people, you know wink

Sallyingforth Thu 20-Jun-13 23:18:00

Will they have a day where they take the baby onto the balcony at Buckingham palace so we can all wave flags?

I did hear there's a plan for a water birth in the lake at St James' Park, with a military band playing selections from Gilbert and Sullivan. Tickets available at £25 plus booking fee. Lucky number tickets and the winner gets to cut the cord. The afterbirth will be auctioned for charity.

Concreteblonde Thu 20-Jun-13 23:18:06

A girl please. And I reckon Charlotte Elizabeth for the name grin

RazzleDazzleEm Thu 20-Jun-13 23:18:31

I wasn't bothered when they announced the pregnancy but now there is a gap and its something happy isnt it.

After this baby I think they will a whole lot more - just people wink

RazzleDazzleEm Thu 20-Jun-13 23:19:14

Not Charlotte - Carol - Elizabeth?

RazzleDazzleEm Thu 20-Jun-13 23:20:35

I like the sound of the water birth in the Lake Sally, how beautiful, however....I am not sure any child should be born to the cacophony of a brass band....

LittleNoona Thu 20-Jun-13 23:21:55

Oh I'm ever so excited!

Love Kate and Wills, can't wait to hear that their baby has arrived safe and well. I think Kate is lovely and that they will be fantastic parents

sarahtigh Thu 20-Jun-13 23:23:29

I think they will almost certainly have a nanny for when they are on royal duties together though I expect Kate's mum may do some not perhaps immediately

I think the child will almost certainly board from age 11/13- 18 though part of that will be for privacy/security... no photos of every single school run etc though I imagine it is more likely to be Eton than gordonstoun

Diana was not a commoner she was the daughter of an earl that had been closely connected with Royal family for past 400 years she was old money upper class aristocrat that is not being disrespectful but she was not an ordinary girl or like the average person in any sense, the palace/ stately home she grew up in was not a million miles from what Buckingham palace is like

frogwatcher42 Thu 20-Jun-13 23:24:47

I still can't get it. Why would anybody be excited about the birth of a baby that has nothing to do with them and they will probably never meet.

Bah humbug me. I just do not get it at all. But then I don't know anybody that does in real life, so perhaps I am surrounded by anti royalists and therefore will never get it.

I genuinely do not know of one person in my family, work place or friends who has any interest in the Royal Family at all. Is that unusual?

kim147 Thu 20-Jun-13 23:25:12

I'm unexcited - it's just more positive spin for the Royal Family and lots of gushing sycophantic headlines.

No doubt we'll have Nicholas Witchell live and about a zillion pages in the Daily Mail.

Then people will buy whatever Kate buys for her baby just because of who she is.

VivaLeBeaver Thu 20-Jun-13 23:25:32

Well that's what I want to know, will they have a midwife as well or will they expect the consultant to hold the vomit bowls, wipe her arse when she shits herself, etc. maybe a midwife can't be trusted/isn't important enough for the job.

I do know a midwife at the lindo wing actually so will text and ask. She did tell me ages ago they were having a very important VIP in June/July time but she couldn't tell me who....obviously I guessed.

RazzleDazzleEm Thu 20-Jun-13 23:25:57

Yes Sarah I thought it had been said that indeed the Spencers looked down on the Windsors?

That in fact Diana had perhaps married beneath her?

Anyway, she was not common in the sense of sitting round a table in Southall making party bags whilst chewing gum....


RazzleDazzleEm Thu 20-Jun-13 23:27:14

Then people will buy whatever Kate buys for her baby just because of who she is

Oh my goodness - what a wasted business opportunity!

kim147 Thu 20-Jun-13 23:29:27

The Kate effect is quite impressive.

RazzleDazzleEm Thu 20-Jun-13 23:29:45

Viva tell us tell us!! Find out!

I am sure she would have a MW....if I was her I would have the full team on stand by and a MW whom I knew very well and had a good relationship with.

Unless perhaps she is doing away with MW for her mother, and Pippa can help she seems to have a lot to say on lots of subjects does Pip, maybe she can also do stuff with babies.

RazzleDazzleEm Thu 20-Jun-13 23:31:18

I think this is why they had to up grade it was known the baby would be spending time there - so had to up grade to this manor house....with the help of Williams purse....

ChippingInWiredOnCoffee Thu 20-Jun-13 23:31:38

I am excited for them - they seem to be very much in love & pretty well grounded.

I'm no more or less excited than I am when I hear an MNer is pregnant.

I will enjoy seeing the photos - I enjoy seeing the photos of any babies smile

I'd put money on Diana being in the name <clearly only if it's a girl grin>

ChippingInWiredOnCoffee Thu 20-Jun-13 23:33:06

I wonder if Pip will 'write' another book after the birth?

BegoniaBampot Thu 20-Jun-13 23:33:30

Not that interested but will be nice to have a light heartened feel good story for a change rather than all the doom and gloom.

Doodledumdums Thu 20-Jun-13 23:34:15

Massively excited over here! This baby will be King or Queen one day, it is very exciting!

Seriously hoping it is a girl, I have set my sights on her marrying my baby DS!

kim147 Thu 20-Jun-13 23:35:03

"This baby will be King or Queen one day, it is very exciting! "

I hope that the Monarchy will be a distant memory by then.

RazzleDazzleEm Thu 20-Jun-13 23:37:04

I wonder if Pip will 'write' another book after the birth?

Oh gawd......your right she will!

I wonder what the title will be

" How to be the perfect birthing partner"

"Bringing Baby into the world the Middle way"

RazzleDazzleEm Thu 20-Jun-13 23:38:35

Pips Guide to Popping Baby Out....

Doodledumdums Thu 20-Jun-13 23:41:46

kim147- I hope not! It wouldn't be great for the economy if they were a distant memory! Plus it would change the face of the country IMO. I like them, but each to their own! smile

RazzleDazzleEm Thu 20-Jun-13 23:45:34

something shorter

Pips Guide to Popping Progeny

apostropheuse Thu 20-Jun-13 23:46:17

I'm not in the least bit excited about it. I cannot abide the whole monarchy thing and would love it to be abolished to make way for a republic.

Besides, why on earth would I get excited about a baby being born to someone I don't even know? That's just bizarre.

All of that being said, I hope their baby is born healthy and happy and that they all have a lovely family life together. I've nothing against them personally.

Their baby is no different to any other baby being born.

LackaDAISYcal Thu 20-Jun-13 23:49:04

I'm quite excited, but then if I had stalked Wills when he was in St Andrews as every fibre of my being told me I bloody well could have been me, even though I am old enough to be his much, much older big sister.

I thought she was going to stay with her parents for the weeks following the birth? I love that idea [smiel]

ChippingInWiredOnCoffee Thu 20-Jun-13 23:49:34

Whether you like them or loathe them it is short sighted to hope that the Monarchy doesn't exist by the time this little one is grown. Do you have any idea of how much money they bring into this country?? Clearly not grin

LackaDAISYcal Thu 20-Jun-13 23:50:00

Also hoping for a girl smile

LineRunner Thu 20-Jun-13 23:50:55

Pip's Squeak

Pip Shit

MaryKatharine Thu 20-Jun-13 23:57:55

Doodledumdums, I agree that the monarch herself bring in revenue but why on earth we have to continue to pay for her freeloading family esp Andrew is beyond me. I couldn't care less about the king/queen thing tbh as I'm not interested in the royals other than what they cost us. I wasn't interested in the wedding either. But it's always lovely to hear about a new birth and I wish them well like I do all new parents although their journey will be infinitely easier than most. I just don't think this baby should be revered any more than ant other.

BreatheandFlyAway Fri 21-Jun-13 00:00:16

Just reminded me to place a bet on the name. Hmm. A girl called Charlotte Elizabeth Diana.

frogwatcher42 Fri 21-Jun-13 00:03:50

I would like to see the true cost of the RF published one day, and far more research into what actual revenue they bring in.

Apparently security costs (massive), LA costs and many other non direct costs are not factored into the published cost per person of the RF. These run into millions of pounds apparently and would affect any cost benefit analysis done I should imagine.

But to be honest I wouldn't care anyway. I would like to get rid of the class system at a lower level as I see it affect many young people particularly in rural areas. You can't properly get rid of a class system while we have a monarch. So for that reason alone, i would happily sacrifice any benefit they bring. People stopped bobbing curtseys and doffing their caps to local gentry years ago, and yet still do it to the RF. Weird and very damaging in many ways imo.

BreatheandFlyAway Fri 21-Jun-13 00:06:37

And a bet on Pippa's book title - "Pop with Pippa!"

(Oh, please go away Pippa, you've taken away the occasional pleasure I was able to garner from the lovely food at Waitrose (occasional because I am a self-earning, hard working parent as opposed to a party pieces "photographer" and "author") - have now lost total respect for the bloody place)

BreatheandFlyAway Fri 21-Jun-13 00:08:11

frog I agree, I cringe and want to weep when I see mature, career people fecking curtseying to Waitey Katy.

internationallove985 Fri 21-Jun-13 00:10:32

How can you be unreasonable being being exited about a impending birth It's amazing to think they're carrying a future king or queen. I have a feeling they're having a king! xxxx

NeoMaxiZoomDweebie Fri 21-Jun-13 00:11:01

My Mum's always going "Oh the Pomp and ceremony! I love it!" and I'm IRRITATED by that phrase!

apostropheuse Fri 21-Jun-13 00:16:09

Ah well when she's pushing a child out of her fanjo there won't be any pomp and ceremony.

I'm led to believe she's a mere mortal like the rest of us.

Doodledumdums Fri 21-Jun-13 00:17:39

marykatherine- I guess it is because you can't really call them the 'Royal Family', if the family only pubicly exists as the monarch. Besides, as individuals they don't sit on their bums and do nothing, they do all work. Princess Beatrice works in finance for example, so she is earning her own money. They also do an awful lot of charity work. I know they do cost a lot of money and a lot of people see them as an outdated institution, but they do bring in an awful lot, and I think that on the whole they are good for the morale of the country. A lot of people were excited by the wedding and the jubilee and now the baby, which creates quite a nice sense of community I think.

I'm not trying to argue by the way, I do respect that a lot of people don't like them! I just happen to be a fan smile I guess there are pros and cons to most things!

The weirdy truth is that the Queen is the biggest landowner in the uk, and the deal is she hands over all revenues to the govt and gets the civil list back to maintain the royal households and the family.

They are as individuals beyond wealthy, and only this agreement allows their wealth to be funneled through the public purse.

So the reality is we do not support the RF financially. They support us. Annoying. But true. If they stopped this agreement then they could all swan around munching diamonds for brekkie etc...and the public purse would be a good deal poorer.

apostropheuse Fri 21-Jun-13 00:22:33

I wonder where they got the land.

Oh for heavens sake, they got it the way all the aristocracy got it...biffing each other over the head in land feuds/gaining estates via royal approval....'tis always interesting to think about the amounts of wards of the crown whose estates got nobbled...

wasn't a nice business. but it was business.

WildThongsHeartString Fri 21-Jun-13 00:45:07

Well all that republican stuff aside, I am looking forward to it. Undoubtably the press/ media/ Nicholas Witchell will try to make me regret that because of 'joy overkill' but it's the future monarch so there will be a lot of fuss.
[goes to look for the bunting]
[any excuse for wine. ]

amazingmumof6 Fri 21-Jun-13 00:50:43

they got married the same day as us ( different year, they copied us!)

DS1 & DS2 were born in July, would be fun if their baby was born on either day.

apart from that I wish them all the best, but not excited.

if you are, that's fine

AudrinaAdare Fri 21-Jun-13 00:54:06

I keep thinking of the scene in Adrian Mole where the birth of William is announced in assembly and the girls are all, "ooh, what'd she have? How much did he weigh?" and Pandora shouts, "how much will he cost?" and gets sent out grin

cafecito Fri 21-Jun-13 00:55:11



ToysRLuv Fri 21-Jun-13 00:57:33

Could't give a monkey's. I'm with kim about the monarchy.

complexnumber Fri 21-Jun-13 04:04:54

I'm all for naming her Alice (should the baby be a girl).

So the republicans can all shout "Alice, Alice, who the fuck is Alice"

olidusUrsus Fri 21-Jun-13 04:53:16

Another meh. I too hope the monarchy is abolished long before this baby would ever be crowned but I know that's wishful thinking.

On another note, I wonder what would happen in Britain if we ended up with a very young monarch (<16) like what used to happen because everyone popped their clogs early and that.

and the monarchy brings in about diddly squat for the country compared to other industry

Wishfulmakeupping Fri 21-Jun-13 05:20:03

In very excited cant wait to see what she has and what name they will choose

SoupDragon Fri 21-Jun-13 06:03:51

I wouldn't be at all surprised if it is c-section - she's tiny. Although even my wide childbearing hips weren't fab so who knows smile

I'm excited in the same way I am for any couple having their first child.

WidowWadman Fri 21-Jun-13 06:30:39

I feel quite sorry for her, as whatever way the baby will be born, it will be scrutinised and commented on, even more than is done with common/non-sleb mother.

The way she will feed her baby will be commented upon, etc etc.

I wish her well, as I would wish anyone, and I wish that people would just keep their opinions on who she chooses to attend the birth to themselves, as its none of anyone's business.

CPtart Fri 21-Jun-13 06:57:19

I too feel the royal bump is a little king. Just a feeling, and I am usually uncannily right.

LaChaiseVerte Fri 21-Jun-13 07:16:13

I'm in the meh camp. New baby = good but really this one is no different to any other.

I actually feel quite repulsed by the intrusive interest in Kate's pregnancy and delivery etc. I would think the chances of her being allowed to just labour in her own way and time are pretty minimal. I can't begin to imagine how weird it feels to have your gynaecological and obsetric details picked over in the press, and how itqll affects normal hormonal responses etc. She must feel like a lab animal. Awful.

kim147 Fri 21-Jun-13 07:20:09

The Royal Family are there for public entertainment and gossip. They get the rewards (and did you ever wonder how they became landowners - by stealing other people's stuff in the past) and they give us gossip and so called feel good stories.

Meanwhile democracy and meritocracy does not get a look in.

HollyBerryBush Fri 21-Jun-13 07:40:27

Unless you are of royal blood line, you are a commoner - that firmly lumps Diana and the QM in that category. Titles are given out willy nilly, it does not make you anything other than a commoner with a title. grin

no sense of history, heraldry, pagentry some of you

SoupDragon Fri 21-Jun-13 07:40:52

did you ever wonder how they became landowners - by stealing other people's stuff in the past

Well, that is how life was. Ownership of land is a manufactured thing and can only have come about by "stealing" it right at the start. All land will have been stolen or "acquired" at some point.

MortifiedAdams Fri 21-Jun-13 08:09:28

Holly her famiky are descended from royals. She was born in Sandringham. That does not a commoner make.

SmiteYouWithThunderbolts Fri 21-Jun-13 08:53:35

If you're U for being excited, then so am I. Mugs & tea towels will be bought in this house! I loved their wedding too.

I do hope they don't name the baby Neveah if it's a girl... grin

AudrinaAdare Fri 21-Jun-13 08:56:47

She was of the courtier class. Technically commoner.

RazzleDazzleEm Fri 21-Jun-13 09:34:06

"Pop with Pip"

Love it. grin

Posterior Popping with Pip?

Technical Schemical - Dianas family looked down on the Royals.

Sallyingforth Fri 21-Jun-13 11:13:12

No doubt we'll have Nicholas Witchell live...

Now if we'd had him commenting live on how the baby got in there in the first place, that would have made great TV smile

olidusUrsus Fri 21-Jun-13 11:48:01

Diana was technically a commoner. Google is your friend. Remember we are the plebs of society in royal terms, but that doesn't mean there aren't more glorified and more special plebs between us & the royals.

I think my favourite thing about the whole Kate Giving Birth is that despite being in a (reportedly) £10k birthing suite, if there's an emergency the hospital nip to the nearest NHS for a specialist emergency obgyn grin

thebody Fri 21-Jun-13 11:52:57

Hope she has a girl though.

Queen Courtney? Beyonce? Tiffany?

MaryKatharine Fri 21-Jun-13 13:45:50

I'm just not sure how deferring to someone simply due to an accident of birth teaches our children that we live in a meritocracy. If my children are to revere anyone I want it to be someone who has earned it through more virtuous means.

ToysRLuv Fri 21-Jun-13 13:50:02

Mary: Couldn't agree more.

ImagineJL Fri 21-Jun-13 13:54:48

I don't know the details of commoners and non commoners, but I recall that Kate can't be called princess but Diana could, so there's definitely a difference

NotYoMomma Fri 21-Jun-13 13:58:44

Who the fuck cares how she gives birth?!

I Can't believe the comments on vaginal or c section

I am a huge advocate for choice and even if she chose an elcs so what?

Not every woman can have the birth she (orMN!) want but it wont make her any less of a new mother with real feeling and emotions and all people should say on the matter is I hope they both are healthy afterwards

josephinebruce Fri 21-Jun-13 14:00:56

If that's how you feel then fine YANBU.

However, I'm totally bored with the whole thing already and still wishes that this country would come to their senses and stop this silly sycophancy over a family of no-hopers.....

And then there's the message that the child's mother is giving young girls that actually it is ok to waste an expensive education by stalking the Heir to the Throne and never, ever giving up til he marries you....oh and not working, scrounging off society - hmm, stick her in a council flat and the DM would be screaming benefits scrounger....

I think I should slink off now and hide.

SoupDragon Fri 21-Jun-13 14:29:43

Who the fuck cares how she gives birth?!

I may have mentioned a c-section but I don't give a fuck how she gives birth. It was in response to the "when she shits herself" type comments. Makes no odds to me.

Mother2many Fri 21-Jun-13 14:48:52

BreatheandFlyAway: Charlotte Elizabeth Diana LOve it!!!

I am also excited!

I also love the fact the Queen smiles SOOO much more than she ever has!! IMHO, since Kay became part of the family...she has relaxed and enjoyed life... keep smiling and laughing...!

ToysRLuv Fri 21-Jun-13 14:55:29

The Queen smiles more now? I haven't noticed. I think she is a grumpy, entitled and ungrateful lady. Didn't even clap at the Script performing for her at the BBC! grin I don't like the Script either, but surely its POLITE to pretend you care - especially when it's your "job" (ridiculous as Monarchy is in a modern society) and you get shitloads of money, property and opportunities in return?

twinklestar2 Fri 21-Jun-13 14:57:43

She is a princess, one of her titles is Princess William of Wales.

AudrinaAdare Fri 21-Jun-13 14:58:56

Surely Diana could be called Princess because she was married to the Prince of Wales? The Prince of Wales is still alive.

AudrinaAdare Fri 21-Jun-13 15:00:15

William Prince of Wales? I thought there could be only one like in Highlander. He's a Duke, isn't he?

Hullygully Fri 21-Jun-13 15:00:24

I just couldn't be more excited!!!

Another useless git to sponge off the taxpayer and enforce the system of hereditary privilege and hideous class system.

Ooh, when's she due ? (Have lost track of the details)
I think it will all be lovely, and give a nice lift to the nation's mood this summer.
Hoping for a girl too to consolidate the imminent changes in the rules of succession.

ZZZenagain Fri 21-Jun-13 15:05:07

I am not excited about it. That Kate isn't royal or aristocratic by birth doesn't make any difference to how I feel about it. I'll be curious to know how the baby is named and I will have a look at any photos though. Actually I don't even know when the baby is due come to think of it.

motherinferior Fri 21-Jun-13 15:07:24

I am so not interested that I am not even sure when the woman is supposed to be disgorging her sprog.

I expect lack of interest will turn to Vesuvian nausea soon enough when she has produced said sprog, though.

AudrinaAdare Fri 21-Jun-13 15:07:32

Thank you Hully. I have clearly been drawn into thinking too much about this grin

MiddleAgeMiddleEngland Fri 21-Jun-13 15:10:14

Totally agree with MaryKatharine.

I'm fortunate enough to do a job where I see babies all the time. Each and every one of those babies is incredibly special, to their parents and to the world in general.

Can't summon up any more enthusiasm for a baby just because it's going to be "royal". The amount of media attention it will suffer will be appalling. Poor little mite, born into that family and into those circumstances.

Eliza22 Fri 21-Jun-13 15:11:42

The whole media circus leading up to/surrounding the wedding started to get on my wick. Then, it's all the celebrations for the Queen's Jubilee, then her birthday, then her coronation. Then, we're supposed to be wracked with anxiety about 92 yr old Prince Phillip's recent hospital admission. Now, the baby. Obviously, a new baby for any family is exciting and a special time but frankly, with what we have going on in the country/world at the moment, I don't really care.

It made me laugh out loud last week, watching a news article about Kate's last official engagement, before the birth. They rightly said, this baby will be heir to the throne. It'll have a bloody long wait cause the royals live forever and there's quite a queue forming now! grin

And Lady Diana Spencer, a commoner? She was hardly working the night shift at Asda, was she? Actually, I liked Diana. She was too good for that potty bunch she married into.

thebody Fri 21-Jun-13 15:14:08

Er poor little mite!! Lots of children are hungry today around the world. Save sympathy for them.

YY body

Will likely be one of the luckiest babies/children/people in the world.
As actually are most of us on here, and many of our children.

Most of us forget what life's like in the majority world though.

Im excited. It's just some nice news.
I thought she was having a cs as they announced on the news the other day that it was now known when she would be giving birth. But they then went on to talk about the hospital and not the date so I assume the incompetent newsreader meant where

TSSDNCOP Fri 21-Jun-13 15:28:40

I'm excited. Live a bit of Royal action myself.

I loved watching HM whilst her horse won the Gold Cup yesterday.

I also think that there's demonstrative warmth between her and her children these days. It's obviously always been there, despite the Mail liking to print otherwise. But there's been lots of little moments during the past couple of years.

I'm betting on a girl. 7lb 10oz. Helena Diana Elizabeth.

RazzleDazzleEm Fri 21-Jun-13 15:29:12

Like it or no, this baby is going to be King Or Queen when some of our progeny are around and will be in the media, for years to come and in our lives and culture, even if you do not follow the Royals.

I wonder if Carol will produce a line of " birthing bunting" to brighten up the delivery suite...

I think its astounding that in only my short life time, we had Diana being checked to make sure she was still a virgin for Charles, to now - Kate and William, its a huge leap forward in one generation.

ToysRLuv Fri 21-Jun-13 15:50:28

Razzle: I'd rather like an opportunity to vote on our future as a monarchy before anyone becomes King or Queen, but that will probably never happen, as it'll be a very risky move. The monarchy in Britain is a ridiculous relic and should have no part in a civilised, supposedly democratic society. I really don't get the adoration. Why? Just why?

amothersplaceisinthewrong Fri 21-Jun-13 15:53:06

I'd rather have the Queen that President Cameron, Milliband or Clegg.....

AmberSocks Fri 21-Jun-13 15:54:35

it really annoys me how people get excited about the royal family,im not excited at all.I hate them and hopefully they wont exist in a few decades time.

Damnautocorrect Fri 21-Jun-13 15:56:31

I'm very excited too, I will buy a tea towel and may even go to London to see the announcement

SallyCinnamonandNutmeg Fri 21-Jun-13 15:57:43

I really could not give a toss. Sorry.

pooka Fri 21-Jun-13 16:01:43

Adelaide is a possibility if is a girl.

Possibly Caroline as middle name (or one of). I'm sure there was a princess caroline.

I'm strangely excited by the whole thing too. I think it's the details, the gun salute, the notice board, the messenger with police escort.

TSSDNCOP Fri 21-Jun-13 16:04:55

<waves wee Union Jack flag at Amber>


ToysRLuv Fri 21-Jun-13 16:05:53

Whoever the president should be, at least you have a chance to vote for him. You might not always get your choice if not enough people agree with you, but at least you had a say. Also, once their term is up, you can get another change to vote. With the queen/monarchy - nope. That's a rubbish argument.

ToysRLuv Fri 21-Jun-13 16:07:02

"chance" not "change"

TSSDNCOP Fri 21-Jun-13 16:08:17

Having trouble imagining the masses of people camping in the rain and legging it up the Mall to see President Cameron/Clegg/Millband on the balcony.

mateysmum Fri 21-Jun-13 16:09:27

Wouldn't say I'm excited, but I quite enjoy the gossip in a nosey kind of way. I really just hope that mother and baby are healthy and that they have long, happy years as a family. I really think Kate will make this baby grounded and loved in a way not all royal babies have been and Wills looks like he will be a besotted father. Good luck to 'em.

twinklestar2 Fri 21-Jun-13 16:10:28

Sorry I got that wrong, her full title is Princess William, Duchess of Cambridge, Countess of Stratheam, Baroness Carrickfergus.

She'll be Princess William of Wales when Charles is King.

I find it weird how they all have different surnames even though they're from the same family. It's weird.

yes twinkle - when I saw the doc about William as a search and rescue bod I thought it was odd to hear him called William wales - you'd think William Windsor would be more likely ?

ToysRLuv Fri 21-Jun-13 16:20:03

TSSD: Some of them might be there to gawk at funny, eccentric relics. All the history and palaces will still be there for people to visit/read about should they wish to, even if monarchy is abolished. Monarchists must either be royal or upper class themselves, or the kind people who enjoy having someone "superior to them by birthright" patronising the hell out of them. I really cannot get my head round the fact that someone would object to a democratically elected president and choose a bunch of unelected, entitled, undeserving people instead.

motherinferior Fri 21-Jun-13 16:23:33

They are all unspeakably revolting. Kick them out now, that's what I say.

TSSDNCOP Fri 21-Jun-13 17:09:28

there's a shit load of em happy to do it though *Toys*

I fall into none of your categories, thankfully, I just like the RF.

josephinebruce Fri 21-Jun-13 17:12:18

Vive la republique!!

ToysRLuv Fri 21-Jun-13 17:12:25

Ok, sorry, I forgot the last category: The poor brainwashed. <sigh>

ToysRLuv Fri 21-Jun-13 17:14:42

Why wouldn't you want to strive for societal equality for yourself and your descendants? confused

TSSDNCOP Fri 21-Jun-13 17:15:12

The last category is in fact: happy and unclenched


ToysRLuv Fri 21-Jun-13 17:17:40

TSSD: Enjoy! I don't suppose you'd then mind paying for our share of all the wealth and pomp they require?

TSSDNCOP Fri 21-Jun-13 17:21:21

Well if I could do that single-handedly I suppose I'd be one of them. Or at least rich enough to replace them with me. Which I'm guessing wouldn't be the equal society you speak of either.

I always wonder why people come on a thread like this only to get all frothy.

It's Friday. For Gods sake have wine woman, and let those of us who joined the thread to say we're excited harmlessly get on with it.

arabesque Fri 21-Jun-13 17:21:52

Don't send cards, toys and presents for the new baby. All it does is take up the time of staff and public revenue to send a standard response signed by an admin. person. They're probably dreading the deluge already!

Kate, William and the new baby won't even see or be aware of any of the presents.

ToysRLuv Fri 21-Jun-13 17:25:56

I'm always ready to come and hmm at the fawning people in these threads, and sometimes even say something, because it really is very strange to me. But, yes, I suspect I will be having a wine later. I'll still feel the same about the monarchy though. smile

ToysRLuv Fri 21-Jun-13 17:27:05

And, sorry, but it's not harmless. It's worrying..

MortifiedAdams Fri 21-Jun-13 17:43:55

[Shock] they checked if Di was a virgin?! How isthat even possible?

motherinferior Fri 21-Jun-13 18:00:03

Presumably with an internal vaginal investigation to check her hymen, I'd have thought. That's the way it's usually done.

SoupDragon Fri 21-Jun-13 18:03:20

What, exactly, is worrying about it?

sassytheFIRST Fri 21-Jun-13 18:06:10

Thing about the old hymen check is, hymens are very easily broken.

So was Diana banned from doing high jump or hurdles at school, riding horses or using tampax throughout her teens to ensure that she was virgina intacta on the off chance that Charles would stop mooning after a married woman and decide to marry her?


ToysRLuv Fri 21-Jun-13 18:14:55

What isn't worrying about the fawning over random child deemed superior to every other child in the country just for their breeding? Not something I ever wanted to have to explain to DS.

MiddleAgeMiddleEngland Fri 21-Jun-13 18:25:06

ToysRLuv exactly my thoughts.

Will now leave this thread, and start planning my total withdrawl from the media during July grin

SoupDragon Fri 21-Jun-13 18:29:44

Well, nothing is "worrying" about it. And being excited about it isn't the same as fawning.

AudrinaAdare Fri 21-Jun-13 18:32:25

Yes, Lady Diana Spencer was a commoner. The clue is in the name. She was not a royal princess by birth. Nobody is making any value judgements, the word has a very precise meaning, has nothing to do with her status as an aristo within that classification, her job, accent, connections or level of education.

<dog with bone>

Actually if you look at the qualifications she gained despite a first class and expensive education she'd be bloody lucky to be employed by Asda...

RazzleDazzleEm Fri 21-Jun-13 18:34:40

People are also fawning over the Karashadians child, I would find explaining that one more worrying....yawn

Anyway....Yes Pooka, the details the cream paper, the easel......

ThePinkOcelot Fri 21-Jun-13 18:35:11

Cudn't give a monkeys tbh. But if you are excited, knock yourself out! Get your knitting needles out!

LeGavrOrf Fri 21-Jun-13 18:36:26

She was a commoner, and wasn't born in zblenheim Palace or Sandringham (although she was born in Norfolk).

Kate isn't the first middle class member mother of an heir though, there was Anne Boleyn. grin

RazzleDazzleEm Fri 21-Jun-13 18:38:18

. Anne was the daughter of Thomas Boleyn, 1st Earl of Wiltshire, and his wife, Lady Elizabeth Howard, and was educated in the Netherlands and France, largely as a maid of honour to Claude of France. She returned to England in early 1522, in order to marry her Irish cousin James Butler, 9th Earl of Ormond; however, the marriage plans ended in failure and she secured a post at court as maid of honour to Henry VIII's wife, Catherine of Aragon.

RazzleDazzleEm Fri 21-Jun-13 18:39:26

^ not quite the same as carol from southall...

ToysRLuv Fri 21-Jun-13 18:43:16

All the same to me. Presumably your excitement is a result of high level personal interest in this infant being born. Furthermore, I assume that the high level of interest stems solely from the child being a son or daughter of a future king who has done nothing to deserve the power and wealth he has. Neither has his family. Apart from a bit of robbin' and fightin' quite a while ago.

valiumredhead Fri 21-Jun-13 18:43:32

Always makes me raise my eyebrows when Diana is referred to as a 'commoner' have you seen Althrop? grin

LeGavrOrf Fri 21-Jun-13 18:43:42

Thomas Boleyn's parents were merchant middle class, he was only elevated to Earl ofWiltshire when Anne caught his eye and she needed to have a title. Boleyn made a very advantageous marriage in marrying a Howard, but essentially they were on generation away from <sharp intake of breath> trade grin

LeGavrOrf Fri 21-Jun-13 18:44:20

She is aristocracy, admittedly, but commoner means anyone not royal.

AudrinaAdare Fri 21-Jun-13 18:44:36

Believe me, my knitting needles are always at the ready wink

SoupDragon Fri 21-Jun-13 18:44:58

^ Presumably your excitement is a result of high level personal interest in this infant being born.^


LeGavrOrf Fri 21-Jun-13 18:45:35

Apropos of bugger all, but I used to fancy Charles Spencer. Look at him now.

TSSDNCOP Fri 21-Jun-13 18:46:21

Blimey Anne from Holland would have had it a lot easier if she'd stuck with James Butler.

sassytheFIRST Fri 21-Jun-13 18:47:11

Let's not forget Elizabeth thingummy, the one who married Edward IV, mother of poor little Ed V and Richard- she wasn't royal (or esp posh).

TSSDNCOP Fri 21-Jun-13 18:48:43

LeGavrof did you know you posted out loud there grin

SoupDragon Fri 21-Jun-13 18:48:54

Being excited about something is not the same as "fawning" at all.

RazzleDazzleEm Fri 21-Jun-13 18:49:49

A generation away is a world away.

Carols humble beginnings are very prevalent.

This future Royal, will know Grandma was dead poor....

This little un will be knee deep in

Who knows maybe he or she will take on the family business...both of them at the same time.

For the first time Ever the monarch will not only be attending ascot but also selling stuff there...

TSSDNCOP Fri 21-Jun-13 18:49:53

Neither was Elizabeth Bowes Lyon. She did all right as did the manufacturers of Dubonnet

buttercrumble Fri 21-Jun-13 18:50:29

Oooh i cant wait grin

RazzleDazzleEm Fri 21-Jun-13 18:51:04

^ Presumably your excitement is a result of high level personal interest in this infant being born.^

I have a high level of interest in happy positive events.

sassytheFIRST Fri 21-Jun-13 18:51:50

Ah no, the QM was pretty fucking posh. Glamis castle et al.

You're bang on about the gin though grin

ToysRLuv Fri 21-Jun-13 18:51:55

Razzle: The Kardashian child should not be particularly fawned on either, but it's a somewhat different situation. Kanye, at least, has earned his own fortune in the music industry by hard work and brains, so deserves his fame and wealth. Really you should find this a lot less boring. I guess you don't care about striving for equality? confused

I wouldn't fawn on any child I didn't personally know the parents of. Certainly not one who is going to rule over me and/or my descendants when nobody has ever asked me what I think about it. I tend to questions things that happen "just because" or "traditionally". But, I understand some are happy to be subjects to the Royal Family - then just fawn away. I won't!

RazzleDazzleEm Fri 21-Jun-13 18:54:13

Thank you so much Toys, your views are very clear on the subject.

I think we all understand where you are coming from and why, and its very reasonable now push off

AudrinaAdare Fri 21-Jun-13 18:54:16

<arf> at "posted out loud".

I would like to see that, Razzle. Iain Duncan Smith is always banging on about entitled three or four generations of skivers relying on state hand-outs. It would break the cycle.

sassytheFIRST Fri 21-Jun-13 18:54:33

Back to the main poin of the thread though, it has been my experience that people who get excited about Royal events are almost always female, rather fluffy and a bit twee in general though ever so nice.

Those who don't are mean ol cynics. (that's me)

TSSDNCOP Fri 21-Jun-13 18:54:41

Sassy posh deffo, but still a Commoner. Then again she wasn't expecting to get the hot seat was she?

Do you ever think that Carol and Mike must look at each other sometimes and think WTF?!?!

TSSDNCOP Fri 21-Jun-13 18:56:13

Sassy I'll admit to female. Otherwise I'm a bit of a mardy cunt generally, just ask DH grin

ToysRLuv Fri 21-Jun-13 18:57:11

Razzle: Why is it any happier an event than any other baby that you don't know personally being born? If it's not, then I think you spend a lot of time being excited.. grin

valiumredhead Fri 21-Jun-13 18:58:50

TSS-I think they probably congratulate themselves on the fact her education REALLY paid offwink

PistachioTruffle Fri 21-Jun-13 19:00:58

I'm excited, I like it when nice things happen to other people. I am hoping they don't use the names on my list for DC1 though.

ToysRLuv Fri 21-Jun-13 19:01:08

OK. I'll leave you to pop the champagne amongst yourselves why bother

TSSDNCOP Fri 21-Jun-13 19:01:19

Well there's an awful lot of pictures in them palaces for an Art Historian Valium grin

TSSDNCOP Fri 21-Jun-13 19:02:05

Pistachio I bet Kim K is thinking the same thing.

TSSDNCOP Fri 21-Jun-13 19:02:39

HRH North Wales anyone?

RazzleDazzleEm Fri 21-Jun-13 19:04:53

Do you ever think that Carol and Mike must look at each other sometimes and think WTF?!?!

All the time.

Life must seem very surreal for them.

If your already mixing those circles it wont be a big change...its the way they have been given such a big feature already in the royal circle...which they were not mixing in before hand...

I thought he did very well to get her down that aisle!

MortifiedAdams Fri 21-Jun-13 19:12:30

You never imagine you will be a grandparent to the future king or queen.

TSSDNCOP Fri 21-Jun-13 19:16:19

There's Carol and Mike thinking excitedly not fawning, cos they do have a personal interest about their first grandchild.

Who's job description for life is: Monarch

I'd be double WTF?!?!?

RazzleDazzleEm Fri 21-Jun-13 19:23:15

Monarch Middleton

I am just pleased for them esp after all the nasty jokes about doors to manuel for them.

I bet quite a few crusty old families had their noses put out of joint.

My grandparents had humble beginning and endings and there was a modicum of various successes from their off spring as well as lots of failures just the pride from them was almost heart attack inducing.

LeGavrOrf Fri 21-Jun-13 19:41:57

Haha at doors to Manuel.


I know, I probably shouldn't have admitted my Charles Spencer fancyings. But he was good looking when he was young and thin. And I have a weakness for ginges.

LeGavrOrf Fri 21-Jun-13 19:44:21

Elizabeth woodville was the other non posh queen.

I quite like the fact that common old coke taking uncle Gary has just been glossed over. Him and his Maison du Bang Bang.

sassytheFIRST Fri 21-Jun-13 19:58:02

Arf at Doors to Manuel - mental image of Carole Middleton cuffing Andrew Sachs who responds with a confused "Que?"

ZZZenagain Fri 21-Jun-13 20:39:44

I've looked it up now. Due date July 13th.

josephinebruce Fri 21-Jun-13 20:53:35

I'm I hopelessly cynical to think that there's a good chance that social climber extraordinaire Carole Middleton hadn't planned this since the kid's birth?

TSSDNCOP Fri 21-Jun-13 21:06:28

She might have sat at Baby Group and joked about it with her friends, but realistically to have engineered Kate's entrance to St Andrews, being friends with people and becoming room mates, then actually falling in love is beyond the limitations even of Xenia surely grin

Besides, is Kate's life what you'd want for your DD? All the RF privilege and extravagance in return for constant threat from terrorism, constant criticism in print and social media, no choice in the life path your DC will take. I'd baulk.

RazzleDazzleEm Fri 21-Jun-13 21:35:45

Maison bang bang you couldn't write it could you.

A long time ago, I also fancied Charles Spencer.


not now though.

Mixxy Fri 21-Jun-13 21:43:23

YANBU. I hate the concept of royality but love the Brittish royal family, probably just because of familiarity. And I'm Irish... The baby will be a beauty and I couldn't be more delighted for them.

Blu Fri 21-Jun-13 21:55:04

Will we get a public holiday?

RazzleDazzleEm Fri 21-Jun-13 21:55:30

Kates life - not sure...however I saw William once in a group situ, with his friends, they were typical oafish types....he was very un assuming, quiet....funny...I thought he was very nice.

AudrinaAdare Fri 21-Jun-13 21:56:46

Okay, I thought Charles Spencer was shagable once too.

This diversion reminds me of a Two Fat Ladies episode. They got chatting about the history of a recipe and mentioned the Duke of Wellington on whom one of them had a crush when they were a schoolgel.

"Oh really, y'see, I never fancied the Duke of Wellington. Squitty little chap..."

It was pure Jilly Cooper.

Essexgirlupnorth Fri 21-Jun-13 22:36:00

YANBU I am excited as will be 4th in line whether it is a girl or boy and biggest royal birth I can remember. Was a baby when Willliam was born.

RazzleDazzleEm Fri 21-Jun-13 22:40:45

I don't really remembers Will's birth but I do remember the photo call in Oz.....

RazzleDazzleEm Fri 21-Jun-13 22:42:11

I wonder what the name would be for a boy....

Harry, Edward, Andrew, Charles William, all the obvious ones surely taken?


AudrinaAdare Fri 21-Jun-13 22:50:02

Richard. He has been in the news recently and has a nice, safe short-form <snurk>

Jeremy would be wonderful.

timidviper Fri 21-Jun-13 23:02:38

I really can't be arsed. The royals are so far out of the sort of world most of us live in I struggle to see a relevance to them and the Middletons may be commoners by their standards but they would be regarded as posh and monied by most people if we met them. This child will be born into a life of real privilege and subsidised by us as well.

I agree times have changed for the royals over the last 50 years but they haven't changed enough for me. I like the Queen and Prince Philip but fail to see the point of the rest of them.

kim147 Fri 21-Jun-13 23:05:23

"I agree times have changed for the royals over the last 50 years but they haven't changed enough for me. "

They've adapted themselves so the public still like them. The PR team do a good job at the palace to sell their product.

kim147 Fri 21-Jun-13 23:07:10

And it does help that the BBC and other major media outlets hardly say anything negative about the major royals and go along with all the postive spin.

Although Harry has his moments. But then made up for it with going to Afghanistan and then having all the stuff he does for Help for Heroes.

twinklestar2 Sat 22-Jun-13 10:10:59

Essex - the baby will be third in line to the throne after Charles and Wills.

I think it's pretty weird that everyone's talking about a baby that hasn't even been born yet. What if something happens to him or her when their born and they don't make it? It's like tempting fate.

RazzleDazzleEm Sat 22-Jun-13 10:11:23

UMMM not always postive, think Fergie and Countess of Wessex being caught by media stings, and not so favourable of Andy.....

Not Richard.....noooooooooo

RazzleDazzleEm Sat 22-Jun-13 10:12:51

People always talk about babies on the way, do you have DC Twinkle?

If so, did none of you nor your kin talk about the baby?

RazzleDazzleEm Sat 22-Jun-13 10:19:28

Ron or Dot - Carols folks names.

Dot Windsor

Ron Wales

Eliza22 Sat 22-Jun-13 12:36:53

Twinkle I hear what you're saying but, it's enormously unlikely that this baby will not survive.

Kate will have received the very best in pre-pregnancy care, obs & gynae monitoring etc and won't be working up to the week before the birth. Kate will give birth in a very different environment to most mothers today. there will be nil risk to her or her baby. I don't begrudge her this. I worked shifts throughout my pregnancy, kept going to 7 days before my due date, so I'd accrue maximum maternity leave for afterward. I never saw the same midwife more than twice for antenatal checks. Never saw a doctor beyond the absolute bog standard necessity. Dh wasnt summoned as they kept telling me i was no where near ready and had hours ahead of me (first baby). Ninety minutes before ds arrived I was told by the midwife to go in the shower. Then all hell broke loose... I asked about my epidural or SOME pain relief and was told by a very panicky midwife, it was tool late for all that. DH arrived 45 mins before DH arrived.

Later, the midwife came to see me 3 times and the patient services manager visited me, just to smooth things over, I think.

I wouldn't wish my experience on kate but FFS, all this bloody fuss?

MummyMastodon Sat 22-Jun-13 12:55:04

Ugh, I just keep thinking about that horrible business with the nurse and the suicide whenever the pregnancy is mentioned. I hope expectant parents can put it behind them.

sarahtigh Sat 22-Jun-13 12:57:43

there is not nil risk despite having best care as despite this Gordon brown's eldest child died soon after birth

curlew Sat 22-Jun-13 15:42:58

George or Victoria. You heard it here first.

Twattybollocks Sat 22-Jun-13 18:58:50

I am excited for them like I'm excited for any parents expecting their baby, but at the same time im hoping and praying the baby arrives safe and well. Obviously she will have the very best of care, but childbirth is a risky business.

chocolatesolveseverything Sat 22-Jun-13 20:29:00

I am excited about the upcoming birth, but mostly because it's due only a couple of weeks before my own PFB I believe :-)

twinklestar2 Sat 22-Jun-13 23:49:05

Razzle - no children as yet smile I guess I've been reading the Daily Mail too much! Every time we get told a new detail about the baby, they run 4 stories on that one detail! My fault for reading mail online hey!!

RazzleDazzleEm Sun 23-Jun-13 10:12:20

Twinkle Even my friends who have very sadly miscarried and indeed lost babies, still get excited about a pregnancy no matter how worrying and high risk, its toned down but you cannot help but be hopeful and excited. The closer you get to your delivery date the more excited you become.

As Eliza says the monitoring and high level support Kate and the baby will be receiving is the best in the world, its highly un likely that there will be any problems, or lets put it another way, all the random things to do with monitoring and care, will be taken care of.

Then things go wrong when the baby is born, when do you get excited? When the baby is a 90 year old adult and is about to pass on?

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