To send the little boy from next door home?

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DS1 is 6. This little boy is 5. DS2 is 2.

The little boy is always in here playing, either in the garden or in the house. That's fine. His sister comes in to play with dd too. And sometimes they go next door.

I get on well enough with next door. Coffees, BBQs etc and would consider the mum a friend.

However, their ds is the baby of the family. She openly admits to spoiling him to keep him happy/quiet (eg: the other day she opened a pack of cookies for the children and he ate them all because she just kept giving). No judgement, just a picture of what goes on.

His speech is also very, very bad. I think this could be relevant.

He is really nasty to my 2 year old. Doesn't let him play with his own toys, gives out to him constantly. In the space of 15 minutes I had to speak to him three times about shouting in ds2's face. One time is was because he was on the trampoline and ds2 was jumping on it?!

The reason I think his speech is relevant is because he speaks very like ds2 and I don't know if this makes him think they're the same?

I am always explaining to him that ds2 is younger/doesn't understand as much/just wants to join in but he's relentless and he's also getting worse, as in, more aggressive.

To top it off, if I bring ds2 into next door's he's not allowed to play with any of this child's toys unless he expressly chooses what ds can play with or unless mum says she told ds he could play, apologises to him and gives him a treat!

Anyway I sent him home today. I said that I couldn't keep having ds being upset or shouted at when he's trying to play in his own garden and I said he'd have to go home.

His dad was in the garden and so would have heard so before one of them comes knocking (and they will) WIBU?

Sorry for essay.

KittieCat Thu 20-Jun-13 15:41:22

YANBU. Your home, your children, your choice.

LineRunner Thu 20-Jun-13 15:41:43

No, you did fine.

LineRunner Thu 20-Jun-13 15:43:34

And if and when they come knocking, you repeat, 'I can't have my 2 year old being upset and shouted at when he's trying to play in his own garden.'

You don't need to say any more than that.

WorraLiberty Thu 20-Jun-13 15:43:36

No of course YANBU

The child is 6yrs old and you've every right to tell him his behaviour is not acceptable...and that the consequence is he'll have to go back to his own house.

HandsomeEddy Thu 20-Jun-13 15:43:36

No yanbu at all. You gave him several chances, explained to him why he had to go home.
And why would they come knocking? You aren't a bloody babysitter! You do not have to put up with whatever their son does to your toddler.
Tell them where to go if they do show up.

DeepRedBetty Thu 20-Jun-13 15:44:08

yanbu

Ok, glad to see I wasn't U! I was just worried I was being a bit plb, though I didn't feel that I was.

They'll come knocking because they do a lot of complaining to people about their children! I haven't been on the receiving end yet but have heard all about the countless times worn other neighbours/teachers/aunts etc.

LineRunner Thu 20-Jun-13 15:47:11

You could add, if you feel that they would actually listen, 'I will be pleased to have Little Jonny back when he can talk nicely to my 2 year old. But if he doesn't he will have to be sent home again. Please explain this to him.'

It'll be humiliating for them, so be prepared for defensive behaviour. But you are doing the right thing.

*with other

trikken Thu 20-Jun-13 15:47:37

Yanbu. Sounds like he needs to have a break from coming round for a bit.

Woodifer Thu 20-Jun-13 15:53:27

A bit different ages but went round for a play/coffee at my friends house with DD who is 18 months. Her boys are 5 and 3. I think the 3 year old was definitely revelling in the position of power of not being the youngest, and getting a bit shouty/telling DD she was playing with stuff wrong etc. Now three is a bit younger than 5 and a bit harder to reason with - and this was at their house not mine - but I definitely felt protective towards DD.

I think you can make light of it with your friend/neighbour in explaining the situation si it doesn't come across as a direct criticism of them. Because it sounds like you have a nice friendship and playing set up that it seems a shame to bin over this?

Yes Woodifer you're right, we have quite a good set up and I have been her confidante for a while now with some personal problems and vice versa and I definitely don't want to lose that plus I do like my children to have friends on the road.

I think this is why I have been hesitant to say anything before now but I just didn't feel I could let it continue.

The only other time we've ever had a wobble as neighbours is when the dad said my ds6 was a little cunt! Not to him, about him. Because he jumped off the top of the slide in his garden.

I warned him never to use that language to or about my son and it was quiet between us for a while afterwards but got back on an even keel shortly thereafter.

Tbf, I do think that's just his 'way'. He can be, erm, blunt!

hippohugger Thu 20-Jun-13 16:11:22

YANBU. But you probably should have explained all this before. It will come as a shock for them, since apparently everything's been fine (far as they know) until now and then suddenly little Jonny is evicted for bad behaviour.

Sooo... I'd do the necessary explaining.

But kicking out a little pain of a child who is constantly annoying your little one... that's fine. If they reinforce the message at home, things might improve.

Floggingmolly Thu 20-Jun-13 16:18:14

Doesn't sound that nice a friendship to me. You send his child home for being awful to your child and you quake in your boots awaiting a "visit"?
And he called your ds a little cunt? shock.

rockybalboa Thu 20-Jun-13 16:21:26

YANBU. Why should you have to put up with someone else's unreasonable kid in your home?

hermioneweasley Thu 20-Jun-13 16:22:40

Agree with Flogging, that is not a summary that would encourage me to keep a friendship going!

ArtexMonkey Thu 20-Jun-13 16:25:38

What floggingmolly said.

That aside, if you/your dc are going to have friends in the hood, you need to be firm about your boundaries, you can't have someone else's child round at yours all the hours of the day, even if they were the nicest child in the world.

ouryve Thu 20-Jun-13 16:29:19

A little cunt? And I suppose his 5 year old is a little darling who can do no wrong?

You were perfectly justified in setting boundaries and enforcing them. You might want to suggest that he'd be perfectly welcome to come round with a parent to supervise and help teach him some social skills. Preferably not his big knob of a dad.

Flicktheswitch Thu 20-Jun-13 16:30:53

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

SoTiredAgain Thu 20-Jun-13 16:41:21

I think I remember your other thread about the name calling.

And not YANBU for this incident. I do think you are going to have issues of some sort or another with them over the next few years though.

Well, dad was very vocal just now out in the back garden

Mum's at work. He's just been loudly telling Little Johnny how I've been a bit silly and I'll be fine by tomorrow! shock

I had a feeling he'd heard everything. Obviously he sees no harm in what Johnny did and has no problem blaming me!

Only yesterday mum asked me to watch their dogs while they're away!

I'm starting to feel like a bit of a mug. Do you think I should call in to mum when she's home? I'm not going into him because I'd have to take the children with me and I don't think that's appropriate!

HandsomeEddy Thu 20-Jun-13 17:31:14

Distance yourself from these people asap.

HandsomeEddy Thu 20-Jun-13 17:31:43

Well as much as you can considering they're next door... confused

JenaiMorris Thu 20-Jun-13 17:38:04

Good grief, these people are unhinged!

Stay well away. And maybe move house.

pigletmania Thu 20-Jun-13 17:41:31

Yanbu at all. Keep sending him home with the message that we only want children who are nice at our house and hopefully he will get the message

hippohugger Thu 20-Jun-13 17:44:24

If they're friends, then you need to explain. But they do indeed sound unhinged, so possibly you need to buy blackout blinds and hide when they ring the bell.

NicknameIncomplete Thu 20-Jun-13 17:44:36

I wouldnt speak to mum. I would just stop allowing the child in for a few weeks.

Maybe when they stop getting a free babysitter they might wake up and see how horrid their child is.

I cant stand people pussy footing around their children.

RenterNomad Thu 20-Jun-13 18:11:15

Are the neighbour lady's problems anything to do with her H, by any chance? hmm

That could also be a reason for his dismissive/putting-down behaviour to you and yours...?

AvonCallingBarksdale Thu 20-Jun-13 18:18:53

Bloody Nora - these people sound awful! There would be no coming back from a neighbour calling my DS a cunt!!! That's not "blunt", that's absolutely, totally and utterly unacceptable!

PointlessPost Thu 20-Jun-13 18:22:04

YABU ..but only for not sending the little boy back sooner grin

I found that my DCs always preferred shortish play dates when they were that age.

expatinscotland Thu 20-Jun-13 18:22:55

No, YANBU. I'd have a word with them about his behaviour, too.

expatinscotland Thu 20-Jun-13 18:27:06

You have been a mug. When the man called my child a cunt that would have been the absolute end of our relationship forever.

Now is your chance. Bar the child entirely and get these users out of your life.

TattyDevine Thu 20-Jun-13 18:29:02

Yep, at the "c word" point, no child or adult from that household would be welcome in my home, nor would I allow them to go over.

The C word isn't totally off limits to me; but in the context of children, it totally is.

End of <cunt for saying that apparently according to MN lore>>

SarahAndFuck Thu 20-Jun-13 18:36:23

Well he sounds lovely.

You did the right thing sending him home.

You are going to have to talk to the mum, say you understand her DH and her DS were not happy but he can't shout in your DS's face and that in future you will be sending him home every time it happens.

They will get the message. And good for you.

Your home, your rules - you don't have to justify this - neighbour child and parents are unreasonable . You need to set boundaries, and ignore their existence as much as possible - your ds deserves to feel safe and happy to play freely without the neighbours interfering and upsetting him. Stay strong - but I would wait for the next natural opportunity to speak to the mother but not seek her out.

Allalonenow Thu 20-Jun-13 19:03:52

YANBU I wouldn't have the child back in to play in the house or garden. Your own children should come first, and they be able to play with their own toys without being upset.
Also, it sounds as though you are being used as a free childminder.

formica5 Thu 20-Jun-13 19:30:02

Your home, your rules. Tel the boy he can only stay if he is nice to your son. The moment he is naughty, send him home. And repeat every time.

MerylStrop Thu 20-Jun-13 19:35:31

the father sounds awful
the mother a bit weak
I dunno about "your house your rules" - this is about basic standards of behaviour. Being consistently mean to the person you have come to play with is not on. You can't let him pic on your DS in his own home
I would have a chat with the mother at another time
and avoid the father like the plague

WilsonFrickett Thu 20-Jun-13 19:38:07

YANBU at all. You need to stick up for your DS and model appropriate behaviour to him - like it's ok to take calm, considered action when people don't treat you well.

However nickname I do think it's a bit off to call a 5yo horrid. He clearly has communication issues and a completely shit father for a role model. His behaviour may be horrid, but I don't think any 5 yo is horrid.

Floggingmolly Thu 20-Jun-13 19:48:18

Never mind sending him home every time he misbehaves; don't let him in in the first place! How much shite are you prepared to take from these people?? They're not your friends.
Tell her to fuck off with her dogs as well... Total users.

It's hard because it's nice to be cordial with neighbours, but you need to set some boundaries OP. I would say, every three times he calls round, send him away twice (or obviously, all three if it's not convenient!) Start to make the friendships slightly less familiar, but don't give them anything gossipworthy to get their teeth into.

Jestrin Thu 20-Jun-13 21:03:13

*Well, dad was very vocal just now out in the back garden

Mum's at work. He's just been loudly telling Little Johnny how I've been a bit silly and I'll be fine by tomorrow!*

You heard that and did nothing?? Why didn't you go round and say 'Look I couldn't help but overhear just now....' and then tell him what really happened and that you won't tolerate your 2 yr old not being able to play in his own garden

Jestrin Thu 20-Jun-13 21:03:44

Bold fail grin

Helltotheno Thu 20-Jun-13 21:30:21

Sheesh op get a backbone! Nothing but trouble ahead here..

bellybuttonfairy Thu 20-Jun-13 21:49:49

Its not worth having an argument over. If mum says anything - just tell her in a non confrontational way that little johnny was on one at your house and that it was directed at your 2 year old so you sent him home as you thought it was best to seperate them.

If it happens again - dont go into details as she will get defensive, send him home and say that they just dont get on. In a couple of years they will grow and may be the best of friends.

The thing is I'm usually very assertive but I am conscious that I have to live her. No chance of moving sadly!

Dad has been stuck at home after a work accident since last year and he has gotten progressively worse in terms of letting them away with stuff.

And actually, now I think of it he was bloody horrible to other neighblur's 4 year old at Little Johnny's party. Made all the children chant his name as the naughtiest child sad

I did stick up for other boy then and told him it was wrong, and I did tell him I wouldn't tolerate him saying that about my ds.

DH is abroad though so the only way I could have confronted him about today's comments would have been to take dc in with me and I don't want to fight in front of them!

helenthemadex Thu 20-Jun-13 22:25:42

calling my child an cunt would be the end of it for me, you did absolutely they right thing sending little johnny home I wouldnt be having him round again I cant see how his behaviour will get better when he has a bullying arsehole for a father and a jellyfish for a mother

Mother2many Fri 21-Jun-13 14:54:32

YANBU

I also have a little girl that does the same. In fact she won't go home, and we have to go get her mom to drag her screaming out of the yard...

You need to set boundaries so this child knows he can not treat your DS2 like that...

StuntGirl Fri 21-Jun-13 16:06:30

I wouldn't have anything more to do with them other than a friendly enough neighbour relationship.

And I sure as hell wouldn't let Little Johnny play tomorrow either.

Journey Fri 21-Jun-13 16:18:48

You were not being unreasonable sending the boy home, however, your view and phrasing of his potential speech issue is insulting.

I wouldn't worry about it too much, stick to your guns, it sounds like he already knows you will speak u when you disagree with something. I'd take a break from the other child coming over for a while, just keep sending him home and telling him, not today we are having a family day. Bye. He'll get the message. Then when he does get allowed back, remind him that we need to be polite and no screaming and being mean or you will need to go home.
Ignore the Dad he's loon.

You were not being unreasonable sending the boy home, however, your view and phrasing of his potential speech issue is insulting

I don't see how Journey

I explained why I felt it could be relevant insofar as the little boy might notice the similarities and therefore feel that my ds was closer in age/mentality than he actually is. How is that insulting?!

pictish Fri 21-Jun-13 18:08:59

Yanbu. Who needs it?

Casserole Fri 21-Jun-13 18:35:25

I think you tried to phrase the speech thing as politely and respectfully as you could, actually.

I definitely don't think YABU. I would put as much distance as you could between you all. Polite but reserved. And if he comes round again, with your permission, and he does the same again, I would send him straight home again.

ImTooHecsyForYourParty Fri 21-Jun-13 18:39:49

You are going to HAVE to be assertive here.

It is not acceptable for him to be nasty to your child and there is nothing wrong with sending him home.

tbh, after that crack by the dad, it would be a cold day in hell before the kid got in my house again!

Telling a child you've been silly cos you don't want the child to be unkind to your toddler? What the hell?

Yes I have to say my blood is heating thinking of the silly comment.

I saw dad today as I drove out of our estate and I got a filthy look as a greeting <shrugs>.

They've gone on their holiday now and didn't come in about the dogs so I assume I'm not feeding them! No key or instructions left.

Thankfully we're away on the day they get back so there'll be weeks of distance!

I'm more than willing to move on from this being polite but distant but I will definitely put boundaries in place for play time and will send him home every time.

That being said, I'm almost positive there will be a massive fall out from this as they don't like their children to be told no. But so be it. I have to look out for my children first and foremost.

It would be a shame to lose mum's friendship but am willing to continue it if she is!

pictish Fri 21-Jun-13 18:51:29

You are quite right walter.

The dad's comment would be the death knell on the play arrangement for sure! Take your rotten kid and your sense of fucking entitlement and ram it!

xylem8 Fri 21-Jun-13 20:22:44

IME children without younger siblings are very often very intolerant of them.I think you need to have him over less, but when he does come busy your 2 yr old with something else.It is pretty crap for 2 older children trying to play with an annoying little sibling tagging along.

Thank you for your opinion but I won't be listening to your advice.

xylem8 Fri 21-Jun-13 20:31:19

Ok I'll make a mental note to waste my time answering any of your posts in future then

pictish Fri 21-Jun-13 20:41:58

To be fair xylem you are pretty much saying that OP's 2 yr old deserves to be treated like shite in his own home just because he has the cheek to be there! confused

SomewhereBeyondTheSea Fri 21-Jun-13 20:47:07

Just tell him his kid was being a little cunt .... ;-)

(*NOT being serious)

SlimePrincess Fri 21-Jun-13 20:48:03

YANBU if I were in your shoes I wouldn't have him round to play anymore.

birdsnotbees Fri 21-Jun-13 20:57:24

xylem that's not always true. My 5yo plays beautifully with my 2yo - and if the elder one was being a little shit to my youngest I wouldn't have it. And that would go double for any of my 5yo's friends.

Boomba Fri 21-Jun-13 21:05:47

It very well might be annoying xylem but tough. I've sent dd1s friends home for excluding/being mean to dd2. Just because they are annoying, is no excuse to be horrid

pictish Fri 21-Jun-13 21:12:25

I have never had one of ds1's friends be mean to either of my younger ones. In fact, they are all really sweet to them, having younger sibings themselves, and not being little rotters with crap social skills.

I was probably a little abrupt there but I'm sorry, I'm not ferreting my toddler away in his own home so little Johnny has free reign in my home!

And, as others have said, this never happens with older dc or their other friends!

echt Fri 21-Jun-13 22:21:13

I'm wondering how the OP's neighbours will behave after an extended period without the near-childminding they've enjoyed.

Dubjackeen Fri 21-Jun-13 22:34:08

YANBU, home he goes. Shouting in your little guy's face, etc...not on. I suggest keep repeating the message, and maintain your distance. The dad sounds like a piece of work, and best avoided.

Snazzywaitingforsummer Fri 21-Jun-13 22:42:20

Yep, agree, cut down the number of times he comes over, and when he does, give a warning then say next time he behaves badly he will have to go home.

'They don't like their children to be told no'. I wonder how they get on with their kids' teachers?

Snazzywaitingforsummer Fri 21-Jun-13 22:43:19

And you're not obliged to 'busy your 2yo with something else' so the kid from next door can have free run of the place, of course.

Thepursuitofhappiness Sat 22-Jun-13 07:08:37

Please update when your neighbours are back from holiday OP.

YADNBU.

JenaiMorris Sat 22-Jun-13 08:29:40

Bit hmm about the suggestion than children without younger siblings are intolerant of smaller children.

People always said ds was great with their littlies. Maybe they were just surprised he wasn't the usual intolerant only child or something.

Pimpf Sat 22-Jun-13 08:40:04

You don't have to be rude but you also don't need to have their child over at all!

sweetestcup Sat 22-Jun-13 10:03:44

I think you need to have him over less, but when he does come busy your 2 yr old with something else.

Seriously? Why on earth should the Op have to do this, its their home, not this other boys!

IloveJudgeJudy Sat 22-Jun-13 11:19:51

OP, I wouldn't even confront the other family. It will make life too difficult for you. I would just not allow the boy to play in your home/garden any more. If you don't want to do that, i would just send him home as soon as anything horrible happens.

As for I think you need to have him over less, but when he does come busy your 2 yr old with something else, words fail me. The only DC I never allowed back in our house was a schoolfriend of DS1 who was mean to DS2. It only happened once. He was never allowed back.

ImperialBlether Sat 22-Jun-13 11:50:52

He was annoyed with you because you sent his child home and his own personal free time was disrupted. He would've been just as annoyed if you'd sent him home because you were going out.

He sounds vile and if he used words like that about my child, I wouldn't speak to him again. I know you have to remain civil as they are neighbours but this man is not a friend of yours.

If you do let this child come round again, I'd suggest setting the grou d rules right from the word go. Tell him that you expect him to be nice to your 2-year-old, and that if he is nasty, you will be sending him home. The fact that you have sent him home this time will mean he'll know you mean it.

You did absolutely the right thing - you stuck up for your own child.

Thank you all for your advice and support!

I do feel a lot more confident with my decision since posting and I won't be backing down!

I won't turn him away if he comes over again but I will absolutely not tolerate mistreatment of my toddler!

FWIW he wasn't even 'in his way' he was bouncing on a trampoline!

I will update when they return from holidays. Usually mum would have messaged or said a quick goodbye but nothing this year.

Ah well. Maybe she was just busy in the lead up. Either way, I haven't done anything wrong so I'm not going to worry about their reaction overmuch.

I'm surprised they haven't been in yet tbh.

I know up thread there was a question re: the children in school. They've been up countless times about their children being bullied by children/teachers/staff/other parents. So far it all seems pretty unfounded.

Can't believe how much my eyes are opening!

NeoMaxiZoomDweebie Sat 22-Jun-13 16:46:49

Could they be over protective of the child due to his speech delay?

I don't think so Neo. He's their youngest of three but they're pretty much like this about them all.

For example: totally outing myself if mum is here! eldest DD stole a bracelet from her teacher who'd left it on the desk.

Teacher noticed girl wearing it and told her off, quite sternly I would think, took the bracelet back and mentioned the incident to mum.

Next day, dad has a meeting with the head to complain about the teacher's treatment of his dd!

That's a tiny example of some pretty off the wall behaviour (IMO)

NeoMaxiZoomDweebie Sat 22-Jun-13 17:38:42

God why have you been so magnanimous to them!? They sound awful Walter.

I'm not sure tbh!

Reading my posts I can't quite believe it. I don't usually tolerate bullshit of this magnitude!

I suppose I didn't really notice it because I'm just sort of used to it. And I've always been conscious that I have to live beside them and that my dc had friends to play with.

I'm not sure I want them to be friends now. But I'm willing to allow them to play here. Just a lot less often and with definite boundaries in place!

5Foot5 Sat 22-Jun-13 17:57:11

IME children without younger siblings are very often very intolerant of them.

TBH I always found the opposite to be true!

DD is an only and when she was playing at friends or with cousins where there was a younger sibling she seemed to like the novelty and wanted to include the younger child. Whereas it was the older siblings who seemed to be intolerant of their younger brothers or sisters.

Whenever she spent time with one set of cousins she always came home a bit bewildered about how much they fought and how the older cousin never wanted her little brother to join in with them

cannotfuckingbelievethis Sat 22-Jun-13 18:19:36

IME children without younger siblings are very often very intolerant of them.

My two (ds 5 and dd3) have only just started playing with a neighbour's son (6) and from what I've witnessed I would have to say the above comment does have some truth in it. Neighbour's boy can be very rough with DD (I pull him up every time) and I've caught him encouraging DS to be a bit mean to her too (thankfully he wasn't). But on the other hand this boy can be quite sweet sometimes and gave both DCs a toy from his room when they were playing together the other day. He's an only child, his parents have split up and his Mum has admitted to me that he's spoilt and isn't used to playing with other kids outside of school. I like that DS has a friend of a similar age across the road but I do watch him like a hawk with DD....

Oh, and you are most definitely not BU....

Sort of update:

Mum's sister has obviously been recruited to mind the dogs as she arrived this morning while I was at my car.

Usually we'd do hello/chit-chat. I said hello this morning and was completely ignored!

I was cleaning out the car so was out there for quite a while. Came inside for a cloth and as soon as I stepped inside my house she ran out and jumped in her car confused

She was quite literally running and jumped into her car to speed off so I assume she was waiting for the right moment.

I can't quite believe, after seven years, it's come to this! sad

ImTooHecsyForYourParty Sun 23-Jun-13 17:55:45

What have you lost? Really?

So you won't be 'pally' with the neighbours? Fair enough. You also won't have to deal any more with a little boy who is unkind to your own child in your home.

I can't help thinking it's a good thing.

You're right hecsy this is probably for the best.

I just never saw it coming iyswim. There again, I'm quite sure I don't need people like that in my life!

hermioneweasley Sun 23-Jun-13 18:21:11

No loss, waltermitty. And it sounds like it's inconveniencing her more than you!

pictish Sun 23-Jun-13 18:22:30

Makes you wonder though doesn't it, at the gall and mindset of some people?
I cannot even begin to imagine taking the self righteous huff with someone because they told my kid off for being rude. I'm the opposite - I'd totally view it as an opportunity to teach my child a well needed lesson in manners!

But to some...they view a refusal to put up with their kid's crap as a personal attack...like the arseholes they are!

It's no loss to you walter - but in your shoes I'd be hopping mad at them anyway. It seems so unfair to treat you like this, just for daring to look out for your toddler in the mildest way.
Pathetic really.

BoundandRebound Sun 23-Jun-13 18:41:23

She's visiting dogs to look after them while their family are away?

Dogs?

That is not OK either, they should be rehoused or kennelled not left alone

They had asked me to feed them and walk them everyday so I assume she's doing the same?

They're not allowed in the house at all so I don't think it's that different to regular life for them anyway!

RenterNomad Sun 23-Jun-13 18:48:15

At least she doesn't want a confrontation. Mind you, who knows what she was told about you, you ogre! grin

I can't even imagine Renter grin

SarahAndFuck Sun 23-Jun-13 19:54:08

Agree completely with BoundandRebound about the dogs.

That sister is going to have to be there every day OP. Make sure you keep a look out and do something garden orientated every time she arrives.

Oh I'll make sure they're fed. Not sure what I can do about it if she doesn't take them out though. She didn't take them today sad

SarahAndFuck Sun 23-Jun-13 21:16:18

No, I mean so you can see if she scurries away again and ignores you or not.

She might speak to you sooner or later, and then you can drop something into conversation about what really happened, and the 'silly' comment.

RenterNomad Sun 23-Jun-13 21:19:55

I hope the sister's not under duress from her rather high-pressure sounding family/IL....

No, I mean so you can see if she scurries away again and ignores you or not

Ah I see what you mean blush

I'll keep a look out for her tomorrow. But if she doesn't speak to me I won't lose any sleep over it!

I have to say I'm very pleased we'll be having a break from each other! Can only be a good thing at this point.

Thepursuitofhappiness Wed 10-Jul-13 08:42:17

Anything to update OP?

MsVelvet Wed 10-Jul-13 16:38:25

Have you both come back off holiday yet?

SlimePrincess Wed 10-Jul-13 16:46:40

I'm shamelessly marking my place.

Jengnr Wed 10-Jul-13 17:47:58

Bah, I thought something had happened then.

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